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<v Speaker 1>The following.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm Kyle Yeomans with Chris Beam in the glad you

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<v Speaker 5>are with us, gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 4>The coaching carousel has begun.

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<v Speaker 6>It's gonna be over sooner than you think, will it.

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<v Speaker 7>It has to be why because once the first two

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<v Speaker 7>dominoes fall, everybody else falls.

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<v Speaker 4>And what are the first two dominoes, Well.

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<v Speaker 7>It was Ben Johnson and Aaron Glynn most likely will

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<v Speaker 7>not leave the building of the New York Jets today.

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<v Speaker 8>Second interview with the Jets.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so once the two domino the number one and

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<v Speaker 7>two dominoes fall, everybody else has a hurry and.

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<v Speaker 4>Feel the role did their playoff exit? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Did the playoff exit play any role into them getting

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<v Speaker 8>a job so soon?

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<v Speaker 6>No? Or it was all dependent on those to.

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<v Speaker 9>Cause any hesitation, you mean as far as like the

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<v Speaker 9>way their season ended.

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<v Speaker 4>Nope, not at all a little bit of pause here

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<v Speaker 4>and there.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill, I was gonna wear that.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks Bill and Bill Jones of Mixed Shots and CBS eleven. Everyone,

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<v Speaker 5>all right, that's that's my question is Yeah, was there pause?

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<v Speaker 5>It definitely wasn't any pause for the Bears. We'll see

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<v Speaker 5>what the Jets ultimately end up doing, but I could

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<v Speaker 5>see one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of thought.

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<v Speaker 5>Glenn would either land in New York or New Orleans

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<v Speaker 5>one of the news.

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<v Speaker 7>So New Orleans is supposed to be his second stop.

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<v Speaker 7>But if you're the Jets, are you letting him leave

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<v Speaker 7>the building?

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<v Speaker 4>You're not? If he's your number one?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, your kids.

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<v Speaker 9>The Bears went hit to hit with the Raiders and

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<v Speaker 9>was like, yeah, we're not We're not not doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to just keep throwing money and power it.

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<v Speaker 6>There's no salary caps with coaches. Hey, coach correct?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, yeah, no, yeah, yeah, but I mean those two

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<v Speaker 7>were the hold up right in regards the majority of

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<v Speaker 7>the NFL, right, in terms of the head coaching positions

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<v Speaker 7>that were available outside of the Patriots. Right, the Patriots

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<v Speaker 7>had their guy. Okay, that was done and done. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>everybody else was waiting. Okay, can we get these guys?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 6>Can the Bears get Ben Johnson? Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, easy money.

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<v Speaker 8>Now I'm drinking over any got his oats this morning?

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<v Speaker 4>It got him this morning.

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<v Speaker 6>I definitely did.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, right here at the buzzard but I no

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<v Speaker 7>wonder you're not quoi today? Oh, no, coy today, I

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<v Speaker 7>got some bouncing it. Cowboys will have much coaching at

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<v Speaker 7>the end of this week. That's why I'm not quite woo.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, I said.

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<v Speaker 8>I call it like you see?

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<v Speaker 6>Is it two tears in a bucket?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we gonna like what the coast of that statement?

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<v Speaker 6>Take it to the stage?

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<v Speaker 4>What about the first part?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh? Yeah, the Yeah, I don't know. If I'm there

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<v Speaker 5>with you, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I this is.

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<v Speaker 5>The part of the show where we can get into

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<v Speaker 5>the ruler better, the rumor.

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<v Speaker 4>Mill, whatever is happening here. Yeah, right, but I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>not there.

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<v Speaker 6>Then you're gonna be the head coach.

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<v Speaker 5>The part of the show that got cut off there.

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<v Speaker 5>We were talking about today John Fossil. We were talking

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<v Speaker 5>about the exit of John Fossil and how much that

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<v Speaker 5>does hurt the Cowboys, how much impact he had around

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<v Speaker 5>the impact of Brandon Aubrey and the even presence the

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<v Speaker 5>presence of him was only available due to John Fossil

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<v Speaker 5>and what he brought to the table.

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<v Speaker 4>Same thing with Cavante Turpin.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you know how positive of an individual Bones Fossil.

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<v Speaker 8>Is very Do you see him out there.

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<v Speaker 7>He's the most bubbly consistent person you've ever seen in

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<v Speaker 7>your life.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's even better than that because he is that.

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<v Speaker 9>But a lot of people will hear that and think, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 9>it takes more than that to be No, these players

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<v Speaker 9>will run through a wall for Bones Fossil.

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<v Speaker 8>Not only that, he's a historian of the game. I

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<v Speaker 8>feel like he's watched every NFL game ever in history.

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<v Speaker 8>The dude, his knowledge of the game is.

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<v Speaker 9>Absolutely fossil to your point, And as far as his

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<v Speaker 9>football like Q acumen and knowledge of the game, that

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<v Speaker 9>wasn't NFL officials that were teaching us the media about

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<v Speaker 9>the new kickoff rules at training camp. It was Bones

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<v Speaker 9>Fossil under the tent holding what amounted to a college.

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<v Speaker 1>Course on the new rules for the for the NFL kickoff.

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<v Speaker 9>So, I mean again, most fans understand how huge of

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<v Speaker 9>a loss it is for Bones Fossil to depart this organization.

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<v Speaker 9>But for those that don't, and just like I said

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<v Speaker 9>in the first segment, when we had technical difficulties, for

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<v Speaker 9>those that you tie their disdain to him to you know,

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<v Speaker 9>one or two fake punchs that didn't work, measure that

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<v Speaker 9>up against everything else, positive that he did everything else

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<v Speaker 9>that he meant for the organization. And again, if you

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<v Speaker 9>need us to shrink it down for you, just know

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<v Speaker 9>that Kyle explained the first segment. You don't have Brandon

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<v Speaker 9>Aubrey in this building if not from bones fossil. So

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<v Speaker 9>remember that every time Brandon Aubrey kicked sixty five yards

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<v Speaker 9>and it's right down the middle, thanks bones. Every time

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<v Speaker 9>Cavante Turpin has an impact return, thanks bones. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>those types of things and.

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<v Speaker 6>More one of your three that you couldn't lose.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and now we wait to see if.

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<v Speaker 7>And the other two are free agents and the other

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<v Speaker 7>one I'm hearing this most likely not.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, yeah, what was that they.

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<v Speaker 1>Told l Yeah, I mean I've heard the same.

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<v Speaker 4>What happened? Not being coy? What are you going to say?

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<v Speaker 7>The probability, My understanding is that the probability of al

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<v Speaker 7>Hairs coming back is slim, is very slim.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, correct, here's correct. So that is exactly what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hearing as well, there.

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<v Speaker 8>You go blowing it up. Well, this is I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>that's kind of quite literally.

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<v Speaker 9>Not to do too much revisit on the first cause

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<v Speaker 9>segment because we want to get to the second segment.

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<v Speaker 9>But like kle said, initially, the longer it took the

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<v Speaker 9>Cowboys to make a decision or McCarthy to make a

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<v Speaker 9>decision on the Cowboys, however, that resolution world happened. You

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<v Speaker 9>put yourself in a position where you have no assistant coaches,

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<v Speaker 9>no coordinators under contract, and they can sign with whomever

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<v Speaker 9>they want. And like Isaiah said, they don't know who's

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<v Speaker 9>coming in. So is that incoming head coach willing to

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<v Speaker 9>keep them or do they want a full completely new staff.

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<v Speaker 9>And if you're an assistant or a coordinator, think of

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<v Speaker 9>it the other way in that I don't know who

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<v Speaker 9>you're bringing in yet I might not want to work

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<v Speaker 9>under them.

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<v Speaker 7>But also on top of that, you know this window's closing.

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<v Speaker 7>It is closing quickly. Right you're in between two walls,

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<v Speaker 7>and the walls are closing in. There's an exit right there, right?

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<v Speaker 4>What window?

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<v Speaker 7>The window of opportunity to sign with a team, to

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<v Speaker 7>be a coach the NFL, to be on a team,

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<v Speaker 7>to have a job in twenty twenty five slash twenty six, Like,

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<v Speaker 7>that's your opportunity for that is closing. As a previous

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<v Speaker 7>assistant coach for the Dallas cast past literally right, So

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<v Speaker 7>like now, as these top two dominoes, as we mentioned

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<v Speaker 7>in the first sere that you might have missed, fall

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<v Speaker 7>in Ben Johnson and most likely Aaron Glenn, other teams

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<v Speaker 7>are going to be rushing to fill those voids with

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<v Speaker 7>the same pool of coaches. The same handful of pools

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<v Speaker 7>of coaches. Everybody's been waiting to see who's going to

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<v Speaker 7>get the top two dogs and now, okay, now let's

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<v Speaker 7>fill our vois. If you are a previous coach for

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<v Speaker 7>the Dallas Cowboys and one of these coaches calls you

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<v Speaker 7>and shows interest on you because they have to make

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<v Speaker 7>decisions quickly as well, you were not in a position

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<v Speaker 7>to say, hey, stand by, let me check on my

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<v Speaker 7>first option that I don't even know who it is yet,

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<v Speaker 7>you would be my second option. No, yeah, click, once

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<v Speaker 7>that phone ends, I'm on to the next guy. So

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<v Speaker 7>you're not in a position to say, no, hold on, wait,

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<v Speaker 7>let me see. They're trying to see are you committed

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<v Speaker 7>to them.

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<v Speaker 8>You're waiting basically on them to hire a coach that

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<v Speaker 8>you don't know, to say, yeah, maybe I'll keep this guy. No,

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<v Speaker 8>you have to you have to take me out like

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<v Speaker 8>maybe I like this guy, maybe we'll click and you know, if.

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<v Speaker 9>You want to take the respect of this on the table,

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<v Speaker 9>which exactly bones exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>The Senior Bowl is another big hurdle on the horizon.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, half of the Senior Bowl is scouting and

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<v Speaker 5>what we see and talk about on the Draft Show

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<v Speaker 5>and what we'll talk about on Talking Cowboys and all

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<v Speaker 5>of that element to it. The other half is the

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<v Speaker 5>networking side of coaches that are trying to get jobs.

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<v Speaker 5>And at that point you were slim pickens for opportunities

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<v Speaker 5>out there in the NFL because most teams have either

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<v Speaker 5>filled their.

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<v Speaker 4>Staff because they want to go scout because.

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<v Speaker 5>They want to build to the future, and if you're

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<v Speaker 5>a head coach or an assistant coach still looking for

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<v Speaker 5>a job, you're kind of out of luck.

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<v Speaker 4>Whenever you get to that point.

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<v Speaker 5>Only a couple guys get out of that from that

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<v Speaker 5>networking capability.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, When All Star Games again.

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<v Speaker 5>Kylled coming up this this week. This weekend, the Shrine

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<v Speaker 5>Bowl starts and then next week is the Senior Bowl.

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<v Speaker 6>Week.

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<v Speaker 7>Practices starts Saturday for the Shrine for the Shrine Bowl

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<v Speaker 7>which is here, and the game is next Thursday.

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<v Speaker 4>The first of February.

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<v Speaker 6>So opportunities for your coaches to go see players to

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<v Speaker 6>We'll carrying across t talk.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, TikTok is yep, I mean yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>Carrying across it's a w W yeah, okay, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>like him.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought it was like the meme that's been going

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<v Speaker 5>around from the Hunger Games about TikTok dying, that whole scenario.

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<v Speaker 8>The we talking about man where to go?

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's right here, they're crazy, all right. There's been

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of.

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<v Speaker 5>Hearsay over the last two weeks, right heresay around the

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<v Speaker 5>Cowboys on what they're doing, heresay around the Cowboys on

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<v Speaker 5>who they're interviewing, on who they're interested in, like the

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<v Speaker 5>front runner. The Vegas odds have had everyone except for

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<v Speaker 5>Josh Rodriguez as a front runner, which is a shame,

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<v Speaker 5>which is unfortunate because honestly, I think he's got a

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<v Speaker 5>better shot than some of these guys to get the

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<v Speaker 5>head coaching job. It's kind of bounced around facts, facts.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to get through all of the rumor mill

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<v Speaker 5>and I want to dispel what is truth and what

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<v Speaker 5>is not truth because you've got connections in the building.

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<v Speaker 5>You've got connections in the building. You've got connections in

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<v Speaker 5>the building. I've got connections in the building.

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<v Speaker 4>Building. Beamer has some of the best connections in the building.

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<v Speaker 5>Shockingly enough, he's got a lot of that because he's

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<v Speaker 5>been around for one hundred years.

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<v Speaker 4>So I want to talk about the rumor mill and

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<v Speaker 4>what is true? Yeah, we got to hit one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>this show. What is true? What is not? Around the Cowboys'

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<v Speaker 4>coaching search.

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<v Speaker 9>I'll start with you Patrick, Well, what's true is that

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<v Speaker 9>the Cowboys do in fact have interest in Brian Schottenheimer,

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<v Speaker 9>and he is expected to interview this week. So that's

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<v Speaker 9>not That's not a rumor, that's actually a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 9>Front runner though, I don't anyone labeled a front runner

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<v Speaker 9>right now. I think is a rumor I would agree with.

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<v Speaker 9>And the front office doesn't know who the front runner is.

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<v Speaker 4>So people who are saying there is a front runner

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<v Speaker 4>is it's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Complete, complete fabrication. It is a you don't know because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>So it doesn't matter what Vegas' odds are because, like

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<v Speaker 9>Kyle said, depending on what day of the week it is.

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<v Speaker 9>Yesterday was Shottenheimer, the day before was Kellen Moore the

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<v Speaker 9>day prior it was Dion Sanders. Until all the candidates

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<v Speaker 9>are actually revealed, how can you know who the front

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<v Speaker 9>runner is?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 9>So you can say who has more familiarity, that's the

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<v Speaker 9>Killing Moore and the Brian Schottenheimer's of the world. But

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<v Speaker 9>then you could say who has more experience, which is

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<v Speaker 9>the Leslie Frazier's of the world, and some of these

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<v Speaker 9>others who might pop up, who hasn't, who haven't popped

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<v Speaker 9>up yet, like a Pete Carroll Water They maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why I'm with Kyle on this one. Isaiah.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't feel like the decision is going to be

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<v Speaker 9>made this week because there's no front runner as we

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<v Speaker 9>have this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>On Tuesday of this week.

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<v Speaker 9>So Deon Sanders, I think that we talked about that.

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<v Speaker 9>That's just leveraging and headlining. And my opinion, my opinion

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<v Speaker 9>is that Dion being in contract negotiations with Colorado, he's best.

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<v Speaker 9>He's with Jerry. Hey, do me a favor, Do me

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<v Speaker 9>a favor? Okay, cool, I'm not worried whatever. Kella Moore

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<v Speaker 9>is a real thing. Salad can I hit de real quickly?

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<v Speaker 5>I talked to a source that was close to Dion

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<v Speaker 5>this past weekend, and he said Dion is focused on Colorado.

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<v Speaker 4>He said he wants to be in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 5>He's there's a little bit of me like be focused

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<v Speaker 5>on North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though both of those signed stop.

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<v Speaker 5>Both of those guys have ten million dollars buyouts, So

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<v Speaker 5>there's that to it as well. The Dion situation is intriguing,

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<v Speaker 5>I think to the front office. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 5>super intriguing to Dion. And I know there was a

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<v Speaker 5>report out there that if he was offered the job,

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<v Speaker 5>he would take it.

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<v Speaker 4>I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think if anybody was offered the jobs, they'll probably

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<v Speaker 5>take it. But yeah, the buyout is a hurdle. The

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<v Speaker 5>current extension contracts in Colorado as a hurdle.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 1>LUs he so will set up in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 9>He so will set up untouchable, especially if this new

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<v Speaker 9>contract goes and materializes for you. Yeah, like if you're

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<v Speaker 9>Deon Sanders, why would you leave that situation to try

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<v Speaker 9>to turn.

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<v Speaker 8>The time and the place to his strengths too, as

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<v Speaker 8>well as far as recruiting goes, as far as the

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<v Speaker 8>staff staff.

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<v Speaker 5>The amount of staff he was given in Colorado is ungodly.

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<v Speaker 5>He would not be able to do that here planning

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<v Speaker 5>some so I think the Dion thing is intriguing, might

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<v Speaker 5>be kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we would have a ton of fun with it, Barn.

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<v Speaker 9>However, there's a reason why that was the first thing

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<v Speaker 9>that broke. But there's been no interview requested or scheduled

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<v Speaker 9>with Dion just yet.

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<v Speaker 8>But there are aspects of Dion that I would love,

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<v Speaker 8>certain traits.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say all.

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<v Speaker 9>There are aspects of most of these candidates and potential

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<v Speaker 9>candidates that that I love within their aspects of a

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<v Speaker 9>lot of these candidates that I could do without sure,

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<v Speaker 9>which is when we go to building a coach. But

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<v Speaker 9>first before we do that, I need because I've been

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<v Speaker 9>reading Isaiah's eyes for the past five minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what are your connections?

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to speak on what you what you're thinking?

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<v Speaker 7>No, people, you do, because I've seen I think the

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<v Speaker 7>Deon Sanders thing at first was fluff, then it became

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<v Speaker 7>something that was real because I think that he had

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<v Speaker 7>some run ins with his negotiations over there in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 7>I think those those negotiations are probably getting getting figured

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<v Speaker 7>out now. Yeah, But that there was some pushback in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it was a real thing. The interest was real.

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<v Speaker 7>I think at the beginning it was mutually beneficial, and

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<v Speaker 7>then it became a real theme because of the pushback

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<v Speaker 7>from Colorado. Almost they almost messed it up. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 7>now I think that's gonna figured out. So I think

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<v Speaker 7>Deon's off the table in regards to all the other

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<v Speaker 7>coaches that have come through the building or virtual or whatever.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that the Joneses are interviewing coordinators. That's what

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<v Speaker 7>I believe. I don't believe that anybody they're talking to

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<v Speaker 7>is a head coach candidate. I think they're all talking

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<v Speaker 7>about with Kellen Sala. I think they're all up Frasier Frazier.

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<v Speaker 7>Then who's their head Frazier is a is a coach,

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<v Speaker 7>is a mentor for head coaches. That's what his role

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<v Speaker 7>is in the NFL now, No disrespect to him. His

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<v Speaker 7>role now is a mentor to new head coaches. So

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<v Speaker 7>as the Cowboys may have been exploring a new head

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<v Speaker 7>coach and might be exploring a new first time head coach,

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<v Speaker 7>I think they wanted to have an idea of what

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<v Speaker 7>Fraser has done in his previous stints. To mentor head

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<v Speaker 7>coaches and help with their transition, as he was just

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<v Speaker 7>in Seattle with McDonald to help with his transition. I

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<v Speaker 7>think that sala is a is a coordinator thing. I

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<v Speaker 7>think that Kellen Moore is a conversation and mainly to

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<v Speaker 7>try to see if you can steal him back and

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<v Speaker 7>get him back over here to be a coordinated I

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<v Speaker 7>don't see him as a head coach.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think so. I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Why would you, he would.

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<v Speaker 7>Not exactly, So I think that's what that is. I

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<v Speaker 7>think everybody that they have talked to has been a coordinator.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think that they have yet talked to a

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<v Speaker 7>head coach candidate unless they've talked to that candidate in

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<v Speaker 7>previous stents. And I don't know if I've said John Gruden,

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<v Speaker 7>what's that?

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<v Speaker 6>It's a W? Who's that? Maybe this.

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<v Speaker 1>J W?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't that's what you're referencing.

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<v Speaker 7>No, that's not what I'm referencing. I'm referencing Jason, I don't.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean we said this on special edition, but I

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<v Speaker 7>believe that one of my picks would be John Gruden,

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<v Speaker 7>but he hasn't came up in regards to interviews. I

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<v Speaker 7>think he's living it up on first right. I think

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<v Speaker 7>Ron Rivera is still in play. I know some people

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<v Speaker 7>aren't necessarily excited about that, but he's a good dude.

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<v Speaker 7>He's every when he's had a good a good quarterback,

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<v Speaker 7>they won. He knows a defense. He has a culture there.

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<v Speaker 7>Either it hasn't came up, but the interviewed here last year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>So that's somebody that they don't necessarily coordinator as a coordinator,

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<v Speaker 7>that's somebody that they don't necessarily need to talk to

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<v Speaker 7>a bunch, right, because they already have an understanding of him,

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<v Speaker 7>and I know they have a relationship with him. So

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<v Speaker 7>you're you're left with with those names that have done

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<v Speaker 7>it before and that you have a body of work.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know what directions there. Nobody knows what direction

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<v Speaker 7>they're going, but I don't. But from the names that

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<v Speaker 7>we know have been talked to, these are coordinators. These

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<v Speaker 7>are not headcutters.

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<v Speaker 4>I do.

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<v Speaker 7>I do agree with that, and I do think that

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<v Speaker 7>I think with the exception of Moore, You're right, I

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<v Speaker 7>think I think I think they're probably touching base with

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<v Speaker 7>him to see what you know, have you grown maybe

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<v Speaker 7>have you developed in this regard, but you still don't

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think, no disrespect to Kellen Moore, but what's

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<v Speaker 7>his identity?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>No, eater of men like that, That's one of the

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<v Speaker 8>that's the real.

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<v Speaker 1>Questions for me.

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<v Speaker 6>But I don't even I don't even know his offense

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<v Speaker 6>has the identity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'm.

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<v Speaker 6>Just being straight off.

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<v Speaker 8>He's leaning on the right now arguably one of the

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<v Speaker 8>NFL's MVPs and that for sure.

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<v Speaker 7>But go back to the Chargers, But what's what's been

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<v Speaker 7>the identity? What do you know that you're going to

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<v Speaker 7>get out of killing More?

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<v Speaker 6>You don't know anything, right, So when you talk about

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<v Speaker 6>some of these other coaches.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, you know Ron Rivera, right, regardless of where

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<v Speaker 7>you may lay with that, you know what you're going

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<v Speaker 7>to get out of him. You know what you're going

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<v Speaker 7>to get out of John Gruen, you know what you're

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<v Speaker 7>going to get out of some of the candidates that

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<v Speaker 7>are now being taken off the board.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't know in regards to killing More.

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<v Speaker 7>So that's why I think no necessarily on that, because, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>one of the boxes that has to be checked is

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<v Speaker 7>are you a leader of man?

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<v Speaker 6>Are you creative?

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<v Speaker 7>Are you can you handle the media, what's your are

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<v Speaker 7>you forward facing?

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<v Speaker 12>Like?

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<v Speaker 7>All these things have to be checked, and I don't

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<v Speaker 7>think that he possesses the main one. He doesn't have

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<v Speaker 7>a character.

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<v Speaker 6>What is his character?

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<v Speaker 9>And also to your point, you don't know exactly what

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<v Speaker 9>his scheme is anymore, right because when he was with Dallas,

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<v Speaker 9>he was adverse to running the ball hill He got

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<v Speaker 9>him let podium a couple of times and kind of

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<v Speaker 9>joked about like, hey, if it were up to me,

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<v Speaker 9>I throw sixty times a game. Right, you go to

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<v Speaker 9>Philadelphia and they won't let you do it because they

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<v Speaker 9>got Saquon Barkley and just a monstrous offensive line. So

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<v Speaker 9>now it's his identity schematically in Philadelphia is Saquon.

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<v Speaker 4>And the best offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 8>So if you were to bring him, you don't want

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<v Speaker 8>to throw sixty times to that quarterback.

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<v Speaker 9>If you were to bring him back as a head coach,

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<v Speaker 9>you don't have a Saquon. And we don't know how

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<v Speaker 9>things shake out in the draft who they will or

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<v Speaker 9>will not select at the position. You don't know if

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<v Speaker 9>equal Dowd who's going to return, because he might be

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<v Speaker 9>on his Tony Pollard stuff right now, which is hey,

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<v Speaker 9>this is that possibly the highest I'll be at tering

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<v Speaker 9>free agencies value, right, So you just don't know, so

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<v Speaker 9>to your point, it's a lot of question marks there.

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<v Speaker 9>So going back to Colle's question, who's the frontrunner right now,

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<v Speaker 9>there is no front runner because they don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>They're still soaring through some things.

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<v Speaker 5>And because of that, I don't think there's a position

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<v Speaker 5>open or made or a decision made this week.

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<v Speaker 4>I just really don't think it's happening this week. And

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<v Speaker 4>does that.

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<v Speaker 6>It's gonna be just like regular free agency. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be left with the scribe to.

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<v Speaker 5>Be left with whatever you got at the end of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Did we talk about this four weeks ago?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, we did.

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<v Speaker 5>We talked about four weeks ago. But this is where

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<v Speaker 5>we are, and this is where the situation is. Everybody

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<v Speaker 5>that's throwing names out there, whether it's a content creator,

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<v Speaker 5>whether it's a reporter, whether it's a website, all of that,

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<v Speaker 5>take it with a grain of salt, because not all

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<v Speaker 5>of it is true.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now that's being thrown out there in the building.

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<v Speaker 5>The truth is they're not really getting anywhere yet, and

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<v Speaker 5>this one's not close to being done yet. And as

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<v Speaker 5>I say that, as the only truth in this whole scenario.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure there will be a higher tomorrow because that's

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<v Speaker 5>how the thing works. Yeah, all right, we're gonna take

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<v Speaker 5>our second break. When we come back, I'm gonna build

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<v Speaker 5>the ideal candidate. We're gonna take the best elements from

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<v Speaker 1>Or with yours yours e?

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<v Speaker 4>That's what we all are today?

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<v Speaker 6>Is it just e?

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<v Speaker 5>Or because we're tired of this coaching search. All right,

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<v Speaker 5>build a ideal candidate. We're going to build a bear

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<v Speaker 5>type things today. We're taking bits and pieces. Yeah, those

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<v Speaker 5>things are pricey bits and pieces of the elements of

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<v Speaker 5>your Yeah, I know your ideal candidate, either from past

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<v Speaker 5>or present coaches in the NFL, and then I want

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<v Speaker 5>you to explain who do you feel like best represents.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's the thing, we can't use the same coaches. We're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna do this draft style.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>So we're gonna start things off by play calling. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>play calling, and we're gonna let Josh defense. Josh is

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<v Speaker 5>gonna go first. We're gonna go offense defense first. This

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<v Speaker 5>is your ideal head coach, so you build it however

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<v Speaker 5>you want it, offense or defense.

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<v Speaker 8>Play calling is the first category.

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<v Speaker 6>What if I don't want then you can say that.

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<v Speaker 4>Then pick a coach that doesn't call plays. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 4>you can do it that way.

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<v Speaker 6>So we're doing places.

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<v Speaker 4>Have fun with it.

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<v Speaker 8>Man, we're trying try not to understand.

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<v Speaker 5>For example, for example, if let's say they hire Pete Carroll,

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<v Speaker 5>is he gonna call plays on either offense or defense.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's your opportunity.

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<v Speaker 7>So we're picking just a head coach right now, just

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<v Speaker 7>just your head coach or your head coach.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you want him to imbody from other coaches

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<v Speaker 5>out there.

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<v Speaker 4>We're building the perfect coach at top the bottom.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, coach, just a head coach, Just a head coach.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, you're not up yet. Josh is going first.

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<v Speaker 8>Play calling wise, let me go with Sean McVay. Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>Sean McVay. I think everything that goes into the way

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<v Speaker 8>that he calls the game. He actually called a really

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<v Speaker 8>great game, uh this past weekend, and to me, they

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<v Speaker 8>were the They look like the better team. They really did,

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<v Speaker 8>and it was if they just hold on fortunate fumbles

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<v Speaker 8>that cost them the game. But I think he's made

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<v Speaker 8>Matt Stafford better. I think he's the whole team is

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<v Speaker 8>better because of Sean McVay. Give me Sean McVay. When

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<v Speaker 8>it comes to play calling, okay, Patrick.

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<v Speaker 1>Play calling, give me Ben Johnson's play call.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I want that creativity.

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<v Speaker 9>I want that forward thinking, hit coach that's not not

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<v Speaker 9>play caller who's not you know, reactive to what the

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<v Speaker 9>trends are in the league. You're setting the trends, you're

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<v Speaker 9>pulling out back the tricks you're you're scouting collegiate playbooks

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<v Speaker 9>and film and looking for new creative ideas that give

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<v Speaker 9>me a Ben Johnson for a PlayGame.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, remember this doesn't have to be a candidate and

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<v Speaker 5>an opening that's out there.

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<v Speaker 8>It'll be all time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get available.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm just making sure I'm going with Kyle Shanahan's

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<v Speaker 5>play calling San Francisco forty nine Ers head coach. What

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 5>he's done has been enough to sprout the tree of

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<v Speaker 5>excellents in terms of offensive play callers across the NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm giving, uh, Kyle Shanahan is my play caller up top.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, what do you think I'm going with John Rex Ryan, Oh,

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<v Speaker 7>defensive guy. Okay, his play calling exit my time in

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<v Speaker 7>the league and what I've seen from him versus some

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<v Speaker 7>of the other coordinators. I face this dude, he's like that.

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<v Speaker 7>He's like the Ben Johnson of defense. He just creates

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<v Speaker 7>whatever the heck he wants to and it's so unorthodox

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<v Speaker 7>and innovative, as innovative as.

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<v Speaker 6>All get out.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like he's sitting in bed just drawing it up

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<v Speaker 7>on his phone and you know, oh yeah, that's my pig.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, and now you get to go first on the

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<v Speaker 5>second category, which is leadership. Who would you want to

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<v Speaker 5>embody the leadership of that head coach?

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<v Speaker 7>Leadership here with a star, right, I gotta go John Gruden? Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>John Gruden as a leader.

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<v Speaker 4>You think you could handle the circus?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, he is the circus.

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<v Speaker 7>He brings it to town and it would be entertaining

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<v Speaker 7>embody he embodies circus.

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<v Speaker 5>That would be like that, you know how, like there's

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<v Speaker 5>a traveling circus model and then you turn around and

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<v Speaker 5>that one's just permanent.

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<v Speaker 4>You just build it, you be kind.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean his nickname is Chucky. Yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 6>I mean?

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<v Speaker 8>Like, yeah, come on, he's an icon.

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<v Speaker 6>You guys understand this all right?

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<v Speaker 8>As far as leadership goes one of the best coaches

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<v Speaker 8>to ever handle the weight of the star that we've

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<v Speaker 8>talked about and we're talking about all times, pastor President

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<v Speaker 8>Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson Man. I think at this point

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<v Speaker 8>Jerry and Jimmy obviously they've made up. If you get

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<v Speaker 8>a coach in here like Jimmy that is able to

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<v Speaker 8>not only lead the team but lead the fan base,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, people can galvanize behind a leader like that

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<v Speaker 8>and believe in him no matter what, no matter if

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<v Speaker 8>you start off with a you know, basically no win season, right,

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<v Speaker 8>I think you would find people that are you just

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<v Speaker 8>need a figure like that now. I think this fan

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<v Speaker 8>base really needs that.

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<v Speaker 6>We need a.

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<v Speaker 8>Leader like that. We need a leader like Dan Campbell,

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<v Speaker 8>someone that you are able to really identify with and

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<v Speaker 8>galvanized behind. I changed to change the culture. You're desperately

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<v Speaker 8>in need of that.

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<v Speaker 9>He's been two for two on mine better. I'm going

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<v Speaker 9>cool Hand Luke here, so I'll see your Jimmy Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see you, Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we all see you, jim n.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with cool

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<v Speaker 9>Hand Luke, the one that started it all. I'm going

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<v Speaker 9>I need the leadership of Tom Landry.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I need.

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<v Speaker 9>Tom Landry, who has shown you talk about Jimmy Johnson

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<v Speaker 9>and rightfully so, being able to come into an organization

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<v Speaker 9>after several seasons of lost and then he had the

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<v Speaker 9>first He had a very bad first season with the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 9>immediately turned that around. Tom Landry quite literally helped establish

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 9>this organization as an expansion franchise took it from dirt

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<v Speaker 9>ground zero. This is the pre Jerry Jones era. Moved

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<v Speaker 9>it all the way to Super Bowl status Hall of Famers,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, Roger star Back and the l like on

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<v Speaker 9>both sides of the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know we're in the social.

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<v Speaker 9>Media era nowadays, so when you talk about circus, you're

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<v Speaker 9>thinking of it and through the scope of it's because

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<v Speaker 9>you know everything about the inner working So you could say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 9>see that's crazy and that's weird. Okay, Well, let me

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 9>tell you back in the sixties and the seventies and

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<v Speaker 9>even the eighties, there was so much that you didn't

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<v Speaker 9>know about because there was no social media. It was

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<v Speaker 9>just as much as a circus as far as keeping

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 9>things on the rails in this organization. And Tom Landry

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<v Speaker 9>was right there keeping things on the rails and keeping

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<v Speaker 9>the Cowboys winning and keeping them relevant, keeping them in

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<v Speaker 9>NFC championships, in Super Bowls. So and I also love

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<v Speaker 9>the cool hand Luke aspect of it. Of yes, I

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<v Speaker 9>love Jimmy's I love Chucky's fire, John Gruden, I'd love

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<v Speaker 9>those types of coaches, Dan Campbell. But there's also a

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<v Speaker 9>lot to be said for one who no matter what's

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<v Speaker 9>thrown at them. It's just the fidor and he's just

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<v Speaker 9>cool because you just know that he's going to get

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<v Speaker 9>it handled, whatever it might be. And now I think

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<v Speaker 9>that invokes a bit of confidence when you tie it

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<v Speaker 9>to his experience and knowing what he can do. So

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<v Speaker 9>leadership wise, give me Tom Landry.

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<v Speaker 5>In a different sense, but a similar reasoning. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>go with Andy Reid from my leader life that kind

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<v Speaker 5>of a similar thing. Nothing shakes him, and the play

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<v Speaker 5>calling is a side product of it. He's a great

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<v Speaker 5>play caller, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>We know that.

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<v Speaker 5>But the leadership that he's shown to handle the circus

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<v Speaker 5>that is the Kansas City Chiefs you're talking about Travis

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<v Speaker 5>Kelcey and Patrick Mahomes and Tyreek Hill in the early

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 5>earlier years to win Super Bowls every single year and

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 5>to get back to a championship every single year when

0:32:56.000 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 5>the circus around it isn't even involved with football the time.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of the time, it's Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of the time, it's it's Caitlin Clark at

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<v Speaker 5>the game this past weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of times.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's the Mahomes family outside of Patrick that are

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<v Speaker 5>doing weird stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>On TikTok every day.

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<v Speaker 5>Yet the focus has always been on two things, football

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<v Speaker 5>and cheeseburgers after a win.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's inficiating.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and somehow he's got dark magics, the official Chi contendis,

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 5>so there's that level to it as well. All right, experience, Patrick,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll let you go first.

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<v Speaker 9>All this experience, you know, experience, I keep circling. There's

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<v Speaker 9>so many to go around, but I'm going to land

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<v Speaker 9>on Bill par Sales.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh damn, good choice.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm letting on Bill par Sales because that experience. I mean,

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 9>it's self explanatory. I don't have to get all the

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 9>you know what he's capable of, and you know the egos.

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<v Speaker 9>He's been able to rally together, glue together and get

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<v Speaker 9>success and get a Super Bowl championship.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'm going par Sales.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna go with another Bill, mister Belichick. Just take

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 5>the Super Bowls playing and simple. He's won how many

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<v Speaker 5>of them now?

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<v Speaker 4>Seven?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Seven?

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<v Speaker 6>There?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's pretty good. So I'm gonna just take that one.

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<v Speaker 4>That's an easy win. Experience experience, mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's go Pete Carroll.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 7>I thought you were going to say, Tom, No, it

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<v Speaker 7>was gonna be no, it would have been Bill Bellich Belichick.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll go with Pete Carroll. Pete Carol's seen it all.

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 7>He came from the Parsils tree as well. He's been

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<v Speaker 7>through those ranks. He understands.

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<v Speaker 6>He's seen it at the college level. He's seen it.

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 6>He's been a champion many many times. He's been multiple

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<v Speaker 6>Super Bowls. He's won it, he's lost it. Right, he

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<v Speaker 6>has the experience of feeling both a heartache in the

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<v Speaker 6>in the yeah, of course, the height of it. So

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<v Speaker 6>I think I will go with coach Carrol.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, Belichick was my answer for a long time. When

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<v Speaker 8>I kind of interpreted this, I was sort of thinking of, like, Okay, well,

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.800
<v Speaker 8>we saw Bill Belichick towards the end of his career

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<v Speaker 8>in the NFL, right, and we saw how that was

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<v Speaker 8>going and kind of an unwillingness to innovate when the

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 8>game is very much changed and he didn't have the

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 8>Hall of Fame quarterback that obviously one of all the

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<v Speaker 8>Super Bowls. I think now of a guy like John Harball.

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 8>I think about what he's done with different quarterbacks. I

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 8>think of what he's done he's won a super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 8>but I also think he has his best years ahead

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<v Speaker 8>of him. I don't think he's done by a long shot.

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 8>I think he's working with a team that is consistently

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<v Speaker 8>in the picture. But unlike a Mike Tomlin, this guy

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<v Speaker 8>still performs in the playoffs. He really does. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>give me John Harball, just catch the sreaking ball. Mark Andrews.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was a tough one from Mark. All right.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh so yours, Joshes was Sean McVay, Jimmy Johnson, John Harrible.

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 5>That's pretty good trio that Patrick has, Ben Johnson, Tom Landry,

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 5>Bill Parcells.

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 4>You got the New age and the old age is

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 4>what you got out there.

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 5>Isaiah's was Rex Ryan, John Gruden, and Pete Carroll.

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<v Speaker 8>Guy NFL Network. NFL Network team.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, that's a competitive, energy, bus driven team, right there, Bb.

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<v Speaker 5>Those practices are gonna go. And then mine is Kyle Shanahan,

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<v Speaker 5>Andy Reid and Bill Belichick.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of hill.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of my practices are turned. We got a DJ.

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<v Speaker 5>Everything ours is you better expect to get it done

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 5>and know the playbook and we'll make it happen for you.

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<v Speaker 6>We got DJ's and feet massages.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh, mine feels like an overpower like Avengers.

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<v Speaker 5>Superhero Sehn McVay, Jimmy Johnson and john you get all

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<v Speaker 5>of it together, all right. That's gonna do it for

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<v Speaker 5>us here Talking Cowboys. Hope you had some fun with

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<v Speaker 5>us this week. We'll see if we have any answers

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<v Speaker 5>for you next week. Going into this, Uh I help

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<v Speaker 5>so matchup head coaching decision could be Jimmy, it could

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<v Speaker 5>be Johnson, who knows whenever.

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<v Speaker 4>Next week for.

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<v Speaker 5>The same different Josh Rodery is stand back for Chris

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<v Speaker 5>Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman saying so long

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<v Speaker 5>from Talking Cowboys.

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