1 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: The following. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 2: He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 3: No Cowboys This He's Talking Cowboys Straining live from the. 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: Six segment plus dot TIXI Ty Pat Touchdown and now 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans. 8 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 5: It's a an off season edition of Talking Cowboys presented 9 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 5: by Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, 10 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 5: Texas and. 11 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 4: The SWBC Studios. 12 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 5: We've got the whole cash and crew ready for you 13 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 5: to rock today, Patrick Nocy, Walker, Josh Rodriguez, the Isaiah Standback, 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 5: I'm Kyle Yeomans with Chris Beam in the glad you 15 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 5: are with us, gentlemen. 16 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 4: The coaching carousel has begun. 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 6: It's gonna be over sooner than you think, will it. 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 7: It has to be why because once the first two 19 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 7: dominoes fall, everybody else falls. 20 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 4: And what are the first two dominoes, Well. 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 7: It was Ben Johnson and Aaron Glynn most likely will 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 7: not leave the building of the New York Jets today. 23 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 8: Second interview with the Jets. 24 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, so once the two domino the number one and 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 7: two dominoes fall, everybody else has a hurry and. 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: Feel the role did their playoff exit? Yeah? 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 8: Did the playoff exit play any role into them getting 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 8: a job so soon? 29 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 6: No? Or it was all dependent on those to. 30 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 9: Cause any hesitation, you mean as far as like the 31 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 9: way their season ended. 32 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 4: Nope, not at all a little bit of pause here 33 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: and there. 34 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: Bill, I was gonna wear that. 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 5: Thanks Bill and Bill Jones of Mixed Shots and CBS eleven. Everyone, 36 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 5: all right, that's that's my question is Yeah, was there pause? 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 5: It definitely wasn't any pause for the Bears. We'll see 38 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 5: what the Jets ultimately end up doing, but I could 39 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 5: see one way or the other. 40 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: I kind of thought. 41 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 5: Glenn would either land in New York or New Orleans 42 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 5: one of the news. 43 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 7: So New Orleans is supposed to be his second stop. 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 7: But if you're the Jets, are you letting him leave 45 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 7: the building? 46 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 4: You're not? If he's your number one? 47 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 8: Yes, your kids. 48 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 9: The Bears went hit to hit with the Raiders and 49 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 9: was like, yeah, we're not We're not not doing this. 50 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: We're going to just keep throwing money and power it. 51 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 6: There's no salary caps with coaches. Hey, coach correct? 52 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, no, yeah, yeah, but I mean those two 53 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 7: were the hold up right in regards the majority of 54 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 7: the NFL, right, in terms of the head coaching positions 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 7: that were available outside of the Patriots. Right, the Patriots 56 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 7: had their guy. Okay, that was done and done. 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Cowboys will have much coaching at 121 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 7: the end of this week. That's why I'm not quite woo. 122 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 6: That's right, I said. 123 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 8: I call it like you see? 124 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 6: Is it two tears in a bucket? 125 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 1: Are we gonna like what the coast of that statement? 126 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 6: Take it to the stage? 127 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 4: What about the first part? 128 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 5: Uh? Yeah, the Yeah, I don't know. If I'm there 129 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 5: with you, I don't know. 130 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 4: I this is. 131 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 5: The part of the show where we can get into 132 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 5: the ruler better, the rumor. 133 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: Mill, whatever is happening here. Yeah, right, but I'm just 134 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 4: not there. 135 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 6: Then you're gonna be the head coach. 136 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 5: The part of the show that got cut off there. 137 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 5: We were talking about today John Fossil. We were talking 138 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 5: about the exit of John Fossil and how much that 139 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 5: does hurt the Cowboys, how much impact he had around 140 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 5: the impact of Brandon Aubrey and the even presence the 141 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 5: presence of him was only available due to John Fossil 142 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 5: and what he brought to the table. 143 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 4: Same thing with Cavante Turpin. 144 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 6: Do you know how positive of an individual Bones Fossil. 145 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 8: Is very Do you see him out there. 146 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 7: He's the most bubbly consistent person you've ever seen in 147 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 7: your life. 148 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: But he's even better than that because he is that. 149 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 9: But a lot of people will hear that and think, oh, well, 150 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 9: it takes more than that to be No, these players 151 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 9: will run through a wall for Bones Fossil. 152 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 8: Not only that, he's a historian of the game. I 153 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 8: feel like he's watched every NFL game ever in history. 154 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 8: The dude, his knowledge of the game is. 155 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 9: Absolutely fossil to your point, And as far as his 156 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 9: football like Q acumen and knowledge of the game, that 157 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 9: wasn't NFL officials that were teaching us the media about 158 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 9: the new kickoff rules at training camp. It was Bones 159 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 9: Fossil under the tent holding what amounted to a college. 160 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: Course on the new rules for the for the NFL kickoff. 161 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 9: So, I mean again, most fans understand how huge of 162 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 9: a loss it is for Bones Fossil to depart this organization. 163 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 9: But for those that don't, and just like I said 164 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 9: in the first segment, when we had technical difficulties, for 165 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 9: those that you tie their disdain to him to you know, 166 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 9: one or two fake punchs that didn't work, measure that 167 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 9: up against everything else, positive that he did everything else 168 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 9: that he meant for the organization. And again, if you 169 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 9: need us to shrink it down for you, just know 170 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 9: that Kyle explained the first segment. You don't have Brandon 171 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 9: Aubrey in this building if not from bones fossil. So 172 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 9: remember that every time Brandon Aubrey kicked sixty five yards 173 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 9: and it's right down the middle, thanks bones. Every time 174 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 9: Cavante Turpin has an impact return, thanks bones. So yeah, 175 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 9: those types of things and. 176 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 6: More one of your three that you couldn't lose. 177 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and now we wait to see if. 178 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 7: And the other two are free agents and the other 179 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 7: one I'm hearing this most likely not. 180 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, what was that they. 181 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: Told l Yeah, I mean I've heard the same. 182 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 4: What happened? Not being coy? What are you going to say? 183 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 7: The probability, My understanding is that the probability of al 184 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 7: Hairs coming back is slim, is very slim. 185 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: Yes, correct, here's correct. So that is exactly what I'm 186 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: hearing as well, there. 187 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 8: You go blowing it up. Well, this is I mean, 188 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 8: that's kind of quite literally. 189 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 9: Not to do too much revisit on the first cause 190 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 9: segment because we want to get to the second segment. 191 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 9: But like kle said, initially, the longer it took the 192 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 9: Cowboys to make a decision or McCarthy to make a 193 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 9: decision on the Cowboys, however, that resolution world happened. You 194 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 9: put yourself in a position where you have no assistant coaches, 195 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 9: no coordinators under contract, and they can sign with whomever 196 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 9: they want. And like Isaiah said, they don't know who's 197 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 9: coming in. So is that incoming head coach willing to 198 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 9: keep them or do they want a full completely new staff. 199 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 9: And if you're an assistant or a coordinator, think of 200 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 9: it the other way in that I don't know who 201 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 9: you're bringing in yet I might not want to work 202 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 9: under them. 203 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 7: But also on top of that, you know this window's closing. 204 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 7: It is closing quickly. Right you're in between two walls, 205 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 7: and the walls are closing in. There's an exit right there, right? 206 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 4: What window? 207 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 7: The window of opportunity to sign with a team, to 208 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 7: be a coach the NFL, to be on a team, 209 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 7: to have a job in twenty twenty five slash twenty six, Like, 210 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 7: that's your opportunity for that is closing. As a previous 211 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 7: assistant coach for the Dallas cast past literally right, So 212 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 7: like now, as these top two dominoes, as we mentioned 213 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 7: in the first sere that you might have missed, fall 214 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 7: in Ben Johnson and most likely Aaron Glenn, other teams 215 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 7: are going to be rushing to fill those voids with 216 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 7: the same pool of coaches. The same handful of pools 217 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 7: of coaches. Everybody's been waiting to see who's going to 218 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 7: get the top two dogs and now, okay, now let's 219 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 7: fill our vois. If you are a previous coach for 220 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 7: the Dallas Cowboys and one of these coaches calls you 221 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 7: and shows interest on you because they have to make 222 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 7: decisions quickly as well, you were not in a position 223 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 7: to say, hey, stand by, let me check on my 224 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 7: first option that I don't even know who it is yet, 225 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 7: you would be my second option. No, yeah, click, once 226 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 7: that phone ends, I'm on to the next guy. So 227 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 7: you're not in a position to say, no, hold on, wait, 228 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 7: let me see. They're trying to see are you committed 229 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 7: to them. 230 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 8: You're waiting basically on them to hire a coach that 231 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 8: you don't know, to say, yeah, maybe I'll keep this guy. No, 232 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 8: you have to you have to take me out like 233 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 8: maybe I like this guy, maybe we'll click and you know, if. 234 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 9: You want to take the respect of this on the table, 235 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 9: which exactly bones exactly. 236 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 5: The Senior Bowl is another big hurdle on the horizon. 237 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 5: I mean, half of the Senior Bowl is scouting and 238 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 5: what we see and talk about on the Draft Show 239 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 5: and what we'll talk about on Talking Cowboys and all 240 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 5: of that element to it. The other half is the 241 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 5: networking side of coaches that are trying to get jobs. 242 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 5: And at that point you were slim pickens for opportunities 243 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 5: out there in the NFL because most teams have either 244 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 5: filled their. 245 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 4: Staff because they want to go scout because. 246 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 5: They want to build to the future, and if you're 247 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 5: a head coach or an assistant coach still looking for 248 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 5: a job, you're kind of out of luck. 249 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 4: Whenever you get to that point. 250 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 5: Only a couple guys get out of that from that 251 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 5: networking capability. 252 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 6: All right, When All Star Games again. 253 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 5: Kylled coming up this this week. This weekend, the Shrine 254 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 5: Bowl starts and then next week is the Senior Bowl. 255 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 6: Week. 256 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 7: Practices starts Saturday for the Shrine for the Shrine Bowl 257 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 7: which is here, and the game is next Thursday. 258 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 4: The first of February. 259 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 6: So opportunities for your coaches to go see players to 260 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 6: We'll carrying across t talk. 261 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, TikTok is yep, I mean yeah, I don't know. 262 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 6: Carrying across it's a w W yeah, okay, I don't 263 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 6: like him. 264 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 5: I thought it was like the meme that's been going 265 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 5: around from the Hunger Games about TikTok dying, that whole scenario. 266 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 8: The we talking about man where to go? 267 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 4: It's it's right here, they're crazy, all right. There's been 268 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 4: a lot of. 269 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 5: Hearsay over the last two weeks, right heresay around the 270 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 5: Cowboys on what they're doing, heresay around the Cowboys on 271 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 5: who they're interviewing, on who they're interested in, like the 272 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 5: front runner. The Vegas odds have had everyone except for 273 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 5: Josh Rodriguez as a front runner, which is a shame, 274 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 5: which is unfortunate because honestly, I think he's got a 275 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 5: better shot than some of these guys to get the 276 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 5: head coaching job. It's kind of bounced around facts, facts. 277 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: That's true. 278 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 5: I want to get through all of the rumor mill 279 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 5: and I want to dispel what is truth and what 280 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 5: is not truth because you've got connections in the building. 281 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 5: You've got connections in the building. You've got connections in 282 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 5: the building. I've got connections in the building. 283 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 4: Building. Beamer has some of the best connections in the building. 284 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 5: Shockingly enough, he's got a lot of that because he's 285 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 5: been around for one hundred years. 286 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 4: So I want to talk about the rumor mill and 287 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 4: what is true? Yeah, we got to hit one hundred 288 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: this show. What is true? What is not? Around the Cowboys' 289 00:12:59,160 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 4: coaching search. 290 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 9: I'll start with you Patrick, Well, what's true is that 291 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 9: the Cowboys do in fact have interest in Brian Schottenheimer, 292 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 9: and he is expected to interview this week. So that's 293 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 9: not That's not a rumor, that's actually a thing. 294 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: Okay. 295 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 9: Front runner though, I don't anyone labeled a front runner 296 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 9: right now. I think is a rumor I would agree with. 297 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 9: And the front office doesn't know who the front runner is. 298 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 4: So people who are saying there is a front runner 299 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 4: is it's a. 300 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: Complete, complete fabrication. It is a you don't know because 301 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: they don't know. 302 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 9: So it doesn't matter what Vegas' odds are because, like 303 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 9: Kyle said, depending on what day of the week it is. 304 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 9: Yesterday was Shottenheimer, the day before was Kellen Moore the 305 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 9: day prior it was Dion Sanders. Until all the candidates 306 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 9: are actually revealed, how can you know who the front 307 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 9: runner is? 308 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 4: Right? 309 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 9: So you can say who has more familiarity, that's the 310 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 9: Killing Moore and the Brian Schottenheimer's of the world. But 311 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 9: then you could say who has more experience, which is 312 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 9: the Leslie Frazier's of the world, and some of these 313 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 9: others who might pop up, who hasn't, who haven't popped 314 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 9: up yet, like a Pete Carroll Water They maybe. 315 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: So that's why I'm with Kyle on this one. Isaiah. 316 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 9: I don't feel like the decision is going to be 317 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 9: made this week because there's no front runner as we 318 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 9: have this conversation. 319 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: On Tuesday of this week. 320 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 9: So Deon Sanders, I think that we talked about that. 321 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 9: That's just leveraging and headlining. And my opinion, my opinion 322 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 9: is that Dion being in contract negotiations with Colorado, he's best. 323 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 9: He's with Jerry. Hey, do me a favor, Do me 324 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 9: a favor? Okay, cool, I'm not worried whatever. Kella Moore 325 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 9: is a real thing. Salad can I hit de real quickly? 326 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 5: I talked to a source that was close to Dion 327 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 5: this past weekend, and he said Dion is focused on Colorado. 328 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 4: He said he wants to be in Colorado. 329 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 5: He's there's a little bit of me like be focused 330 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 5: on North Carolina. 331 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: Even though both of those signed stop. 332 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 5: Both of those guys have ten million dollars buyouts, So 333 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 5: there's that to it as well. The Dion situation is intriguing, 334 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 5: I think to the front office. I don't think it's 335 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 5: super intriguing to Dion. And I know there was a 336 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 5: report out there that if he was offered the job, 337 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 5: he would take it. 338 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 4: I get it. 339 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 5: I think if anybody was offered the jobs, they'll probably 340 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 5: take it. But yeah, the buyout is a hurdle. The 341 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 5: current extension contracts in Colorado as a hurdle. 342 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 4: There's a lot going on. 343 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: LUs he so will set up in Colorado. 344 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 9: He so will set up untouchable, especially if this new 345 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 9: contract goes and materializes for you. Yeah, like if you're 346 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 9: Deon Sanders, why would you leave that situation to try 347 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 9: to turn. 348 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 8: The time and the place to his strengths too, as 349 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 8: well as far as recruiting goes, as far as the 350 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 8: staff staff. 351 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 5: The amount of staff he was given in Colorado is ungodly. 352 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 5: He would not be able to do that here planning 353 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 5: some so I think the Dion thing is intriguing, might 354 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 5: be kind of fun. 355 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 4: I think we would have a ton of fun with it, Barn. 356 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 9: However, there's a reason why that was the first thing 357 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 9: that broke. But there's been no interview requested or scheduled 358 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 9: with Dion just yet. 359 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 8: But there are aspects of Dion that I would love, 360 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 8: certain traits. 361 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say all. 362 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 9: There are aspects of most of these candidates and potential 363 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 9: candidates that that I love within their aspects of a 364 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 9: lot of these candidates that I could do without sure, 365 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 9: which is when we go to building a coach. But 366 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 9: first before we do that, I need because I've been 367 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 9: reading Isaiah's eyes for the past five minutes. 368 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, what are your connections? 369 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: I need you to speak on what you what you're thinking? 370 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 7: No, people, you do, because I've seen I think the 371 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 7: Deon Sanders thing at first was fluff, then it became 372 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 7: something that was real because I think that he had 373 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 7: some run ins with his negotiations over there in Colorado. 374 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 7: I think those those negotiations are probably getting getting figured 375 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 7: out now. Yeah, But that there was some pushback in Colorado. 376 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 4: Oh, it was a real thing. The interest was real. 377 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 7: I think at the beginning it was mutually beneficial, and 378 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 7: then it became a real theme because of the pushback 379 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 7: from Colorado. Almost they almost messed it up. Yeah, So 380 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 7: now I think that's gonna figured out. So I think 381 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 7: Deon's off the table in regards to all the other 382 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 7: coaches that have come through the building or virtual or whatever. 383 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 7: I think that the Joneses are interviewing coordinators. That's what 384 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 7: I believe. I don't believe that anybody they're talking to 385 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 7: is a head coach candidate. I think they're all talking 386 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 7: about with Kellen Sala. I think they're all up Frasier Frazier. 387 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 7: Then who's their head Frazier is a is a coach, 388 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 7: is a mentor for head coaches. That's what his role 389 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 7: is in the NFL now, No disrespect to him. His 390 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 7: role now is a mentor to new head coaches. So 391 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 7: as the Cowboys may have been exploring a new head 392 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 7: coach and might be exploring a new first time head coach, 393 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 7: I think they wanted to have an idea of what 394 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 7: Fraser has done in his previous stints. To mentor head 395 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 7: coaches and help with their transition, as he was just 396 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 7: in Seattle with McDonald to help with his transition. I 397 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 7: think that sala is a is a coordinator thing. I 398 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 7: think that Kellen Moore is a conversation and mainly to 399 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 7: try to see if you can steal him back and 400 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 7: get him back over here to be a coordinated I 401 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 7: don't see him as a head coach. 402 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 6: I don't think so. I wouldn't. 403 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 4: Why would you, he would. 404 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 7: Not exactly, So I think that's what that is. I 405 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 7: think everybody that they have talked to has been a coordinator. 406 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 7: I don't think that they have yet talked to a 407 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 7: head coach candidate unless they've talked to that candidate in 408 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 7: previous stents. And I don't know if I've said John Gruden, 409 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 7: what's that? 410 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 6: It's a W? Who's that? Maybe this. 411 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: J W? 412 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 4: I don't that's what you're referencing. 413 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 7: No, that's not what I'm referencing. I'm referencing Jason, I don't. 414 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 7: I mean we said this on special edition, but I 415 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 7: believe that one of my picks would be John Gruden, 416 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 7: but he hasn't came up in regards to interviews. I 417 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 7: think he's living it up on first right. I think 418 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 7: Ron Rivera is still in play. I know some people 419 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 7: aren't necessarily excited about that, but he's a good dude. 420 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 7: He's every when he's had a good a good quarterback, 421 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 7: they won. He knows a defense. He has a culture there. 422 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 7: Either it hasn't came up, but the interviewed here last year. Yeah, 423 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 7: So that's somebody that they don't necessarily coordinator as a coordinator, 424 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 7: that's somebody that they don't necessarily need to talk to 425 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 7: a bunch, right, because they already have an understanding of him, 426 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 7: and I know they have a relationship with him. So 427 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 7: you're you're left with with those names that have done 428 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 7: it before and that you have a body of work. 429 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 6: I don't. 430 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 7: I don't know what directions there. Nobody knows what direction 431 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 7: they're going, but I don't. But from the names that 432 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 7: we know have been talked to, these are coordinators. These 433 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 7: are not headcutters. 434 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 4: I do. 435 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 7: I do agree with that, and I do think that 436 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 7: I think with the exception of Moore, You're right, I 437 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 7: think I think I think they're probably touching base with 438 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 7: him to see what you know, have you grown maybe 439 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 7: have you developed in this regard, but you still don't 440 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 7: I don't think, no disrespect to Kellen Moore, but what's 441 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 7: his identity? 442 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 443 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 8: No, eater of men like that, That's one of the 444 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 8: that's the real. 445 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: Questions for me. 446 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 6: But I don't even I don't even know his offense 447 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 6: has the identity. 448 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm. 449 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 6: Just being straight off. 450 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 8: He's leaning on the right now arguably one of the 451 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 8: NFL's MVPs and that for sure. 452 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 7: But go back to the Chargers, But what's what's been 453 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 7: the identity? What do you know that you're going to 454 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 7: get out of killing More? 455 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 6: You don't know anything, right, So when you talk about 456 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 6: some of these other coaches. 457 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 7: You know, you know Ron Rivera, right, regardless of where 458 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 7: you may lay with that, you know what you're going 459 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 7: to get out of him. You know what you're going 460 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 7: to get out of John Gruen, you know what you're 461 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 7: going to get out of some of the candidates that 462 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 7: are now being taken off the board. 463 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 6: You don't know in regards to killing More. 464 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 7: So that's why I think no necessarily on that, because, yeah, 465 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 7: one of the boxes that has to be checked is 466 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 7: are you a leader of man? 467 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 6: Are you creative? 468 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 7: Are you can you handle the media, what's your are 469 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 7: you forward facing? 470 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 12: Like? 471 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 7: All these things have to be checked, and I don't 472 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 7: think that he possesses the main one. He doesn't have 473 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 7: a character. 474 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 6: What is his character? 475 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 9: And also to your point, you don't know exactly what 476 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 9: his scheme is anymore, right because when he was with Dallas, 477 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 9: he was adverse to running the ball hill He got 478 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 9: him let podium a couple of times and kind of 479 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 9: joked about like, hey, if it were up to me, 480 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 9: I throw sixty times a game. Right, you go to 481 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 9: Philadelphia and they won't let you do it because they 482 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 9: got Saquon Barkley and just a monstrous offensive line. So 483 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 9: now it's his identity schematically in Philadelphia is Saquon. 484 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 4: And the best offensive line. 485 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: That's fair. 486 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 8: So if you were to bring him, you don't want 487 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 8: to throw sixty times to that quarterback. 488 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 9: If you were to bring him back as a head coach, 489 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 9: you don't have a Saquon. And we don't know how 490 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 9: things shake out in the draft who they will or 491 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 9: will not select at the position. You don't know if 492 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 9: equal Dowd who's going to return, because he might be 493 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 9: on his Tony Pollard stuff right now, which is hey, 494 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 9: this is that possibly the highest I'll be at tering 495 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 9: free agencies value, right, So you just don't know, so 496 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 9: to your point, it's a lot of question marks there. 497 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 9: So going back to Colle's question, who's the frontrunner right now, 498 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 9: there is no front runner because they don't know. 499 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: They're still soaring through some things. 500 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 5: And because of that, I don't think there's a position 501 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 5: open or made or a decision made this week. 502 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 4: I just really don't think it's happening this week. And 503 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 4: does that. 504 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 6: It's gonna be just like regular free agency. You're gonna 505 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 6: be left with the scribe to. 506 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 5: Be left with whatever you got at the end of it. 507 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 5: Did we talk about this four weeks ago? 508 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 4: Yes, we did. 509 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 5: We talked about four weeks ago. But this is where 510 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 5: we are, and this is where the situation is. Everybody 511 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 5: that's throwing names out there, whether it's a content creator, 512 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 5: whether it's a reporter, whether it's a website, all of that, 513 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 5: take it with a grain of salt, because not all 514 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 5: of it is true. 515 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 4: Right now that's being thrown out there in the building. 516 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 5: The truth is they're not really getting anywhere yet, and 517 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 5: this one's not close to being done yet. And as 518 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 5: I say that, as the only truth in this whole scenario. 519 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 5: I'm sure there will be a higher tomorrow because that's 520 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 5: how the thing works. Yeah, all right, we're gonna take 521 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 5: our second break. When we come back, I'm gonna build 522 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 5: the ideal candidate. We're gonna take the best elements from 523 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 5: some of the NFL's past and present head coaches and 524 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 5: build what you would want and who closest resembles what 525 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 5: your player and coach would end up being when we 526 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 5: talk about it. 527 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 4: Right after this, with more talking cowboys. 528 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 10: Todd thought it would be secure to jog in the 529 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 10: Cheat of Savannah. Todd believed the big Cat repellent he 530 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 10: bought online was reliable. 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All right, back here on Talking Cowboys. 572 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 5: This segment of the show is brought to you by 573 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 5: in visib Line, the official Smile of the Dallas Cowboys 574 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 5: back alongside Patrick Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah standback, Chris 575 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 5: Beam in the back. 576 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 4: I'm Kyle Yellman's all right. 577 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: Or with yours yours e? 578 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 4: That's what we all are today? 579 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 6: Is it just e? 580 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 5: Or because we're tired of this coaching search. All right, 581 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 5: build a ideal candidate. We're going to build a bear 582 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 5: type things today. We're taking bits and pieces. Yeah, those 583 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 5: things are pricey bits and pieces of the elements of 584 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 5: your Yeah, I know your ideal candidate, either from past 585 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 5: or present coaches in the NFL, and then I want 586 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 5: you to explain who do you feel like best represents. 587 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 5: Here's the thing, we can't use the same coaches. We're 588 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 5: gonna do this draft style. 589 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 6: Okay. 590 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 5: So we're gonna start things off by play calling. Okay, 591 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 5: play calling, and we're gonna let Josh defense. Josh is 592 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 5: gonna go first. We're gonna go offense defense first. This 593 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 5: is your ideal head coach, so you build it however 594 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 5: you want it, offense or defense. 595 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 8: Play calling is the first category. 596 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 6: What if I don't want then you can say that. 597 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 4: Then pick a coach that doesn't call plays. Okay, so 598 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 4: you can do it that way. 599 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 6: So we're doing places. 600 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 4: Have fun with it. 601 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 8: Man, we're trying try not to understand. 602 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 5: For example, for example, if let's say they hire Pete Carroll, 603 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 5: is he gonna call plays on either offense or defense. 604 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 4: So there's your opportunity. 605 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 7: So we're picking just a head coach right now, just 606 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 7: just your head coach or your head coach. 607 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 5: What do you want him to imbody from other coaches 608 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 5: out there. 609 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 4: We're building the perfect coach at top the bottom. 610 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 6: Hey, coach, just a head coach, Just a head coach. 611 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 4: Okay, you're not up yet. Josh is going first. 612 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 8: Play calling wise, let me go with Sean McVay. Okay, 613 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 8: Sean McVay. I think everything that goes into the way 614 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 8: that he calls the game. He actually called a really 615 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 8: great game, uh this past weekend, and to me, they 616 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 8: were the They look like the better team. They really did, 617 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 8: and it was if they just hold on fortunate fumbles 618 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 8: that cost them the game. But I think he's made 619 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 8: Matt Stafford better. I think he's the whole team is 620 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 8: better because of Sean McVay. Give me Sean McVay. When 621 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 8: it comes to play calling, okay, Patrick. 622 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: Play calling, give me Ben Johnson's play call. 623 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 8: Okay. 624 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: I want that creativity. 625 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 9: I want that forward thinking, hit coach that's not not 626 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 9: play caller who's not you know, reactive to what the 627 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 9: trends are in the league. You're setting the trends, you're 628 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 9: pulling out back the tricks you're you're scouting collegiate playbooks 629 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 9: and film and looking for new creative ideas that give 630 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 9: me a Ben Johnson for a PlayGame. 631 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 5: Okay, remember this doesn't have to be a candidate and 632 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 5: an opening that's out there. 633 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 8: It'll be all time. 634 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get available. 635 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just making sure I'm going with Kyle Shanahan's 636 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 5: play calling San Francisco forty nine Ers head coach. What 637 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 5: he's done has been enough to sprout the tree of 638 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 5: excellents in terms of offensive play callers across the NFL. 639 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 5: I'm giving, uh, Kyle Shanahan is my play caller up top. 640 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 7: Okay, what do you think I'm going with John Rex Ryan, Oh, 641 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 7: defensive guy. Okay, his play calling exit my time in 642 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 7: the league and what I've seen from him versus some 643 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 7: of the other coordinators. I face this dude, he's like that. 644 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 7: He's like the Ben Johnson of defense. He just creates 645 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 7: whatever the heck he wants to and it's so unorthodox 646 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 7: and innovative, as innovative as. 647 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 6: All get out. 648 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 7: It's like he's sitting in bed just drawing it up 649 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 7: on his phone and you know, oh yeah, that's my pig. 650 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 5: Okay, and now you get to go first on the 651 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 5: second category, which is leadership. Who would you want to 652 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 5: embody the leadership of that head coach? 653 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 7: Leadership here with a star, right, I gotta go John Gruden? Okay, 654 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 7: John Gruden as a leader. 655 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 4: You think you could handle the circus? 656 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 6: Yes, he is the circus. 657 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 7: He brings it to town and it would be entertaining 658 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 7: embody he embodies circus. 659 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 5: That would be like that, you know how, like there's 660 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 5: a traveling circus model and then you turn around and 661 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 5: that one's just permanent. 662 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 4: You just build it, you be kind. 663 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 6: I mean his nickname is Chucky. Yeah, you know what 664 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 6: I mean? 665 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 8: Like, yeah, come on, he's an icon. 666 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 6: You guys understand this all right? 667 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 8: As far as leadership goes one of the best coaches 668 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 8: to ever handle the weight of the star that we've 669 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 8: talked about and we're talking about all times, pastor President 670 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 8: Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson Man. I think at this point 671 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 8: Jerry and Jimmy obviously they've made up. If you get 672 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 8: a coach in here like Jimmy that is able to 673 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 8: not only lead the team but lead the fan base, 674 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 8: you know, people can galvanize behind a leader like that 675 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 8: and believe in him no matter what, no matter if 676 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 8: you start off with a you know, basically no win season, right, 677 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 8: I think you would find people that are you just 678 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 8: need a figure like that now. I think this fan 679 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 8: base really needs that. 680 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 6: We need a. 681 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 8: Leader like that. We need a leader like Dan Campbell, 682 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 8: someone that you are able to really identify with and 683 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 8: galvanized behind. I changed to change the culture. You're desperately 684 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 8: in need of that. 685 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 9: He's been two for two on mine better. I'm going 686 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 9: cool Hand Luke here, so I'll see your Jimmy Johnson. 687 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: I'll see you, Jimmy. 688 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 4: I think we all see you, jim n. 689 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 9: Okay, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with cool 690 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 9: Hand Luke, the one that started it all. I'm going 691 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 9: I need the leadership of Tom Landry. 692 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: That's what I need. 693 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 9: Tom Landry, who has shown you talk about Jimmy Johnson 694 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 9: and rightfully so, being able to come into an organization 695 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 9: after several seasons of lost and then he had the 696 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 9: first He had a very bad first season with the Cowboys, 697 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 9: immediately turned that around. Tom Landry quite literally helped establish 698 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 9: this organization as an expansion franchise took it from dirt 699 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 9: ground zero. This is the pre Jerry Jones era. Moved 700 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 9: it all the way to Super Bowl status Hall of Famers, 701 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 9: you know, Roger star Back and the l like on 702 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 9: both sides of the ball. 703 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: And I know we're in the social. 704 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 9: Media era nowadays, so when you talk about circus, you're 705 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 9: thinking of it and through the scope of it's because 706 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 9: you know everything about the inner working So you could say, oh, well, 707 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 9: see that's crazy and that's weird. Okay, Well, let me 708 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 9: tell you back in the sixties and the seventies and 709 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 9: even the eighties, there was so much that you didn't 710 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 9: know about because there was no social media. It was 711 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 9: just as much as a circus as far as keeping 712 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 9: things on the rails in this organization. And Tom Landry 713 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 9: was right there keeping things on the rails and keeping 714 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 9: the Cowboys winning and keeping them relevant, keeping them in 715 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,239 Speaker 9: NFC championships, in Super Bowls. So and I also love 716 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 9: the cool hand Luke aspect of it. Of yes, I 717 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 9: love Jimmy's I love Chucky's fire, John Gruden, I'd love 718 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 9: those types of coaches, Dan Campbell. But there's also a 719 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 9: lot to be said for one who no matter what's 720 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 9: thrown at them. It's just the fidor and he's just 721 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 9: cool because you just know that he's going to get 722 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 9: it handled, whatever it might be. And now I think 723 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 9: that invokes a bit of confidence when you tie it 724 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 9: to his experience and knowing what he can do. So 725 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 9: leadership wise, give me Tom Landry. 726 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 5: In a different sense, but a similar reasoning. I'm gonna 727 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 5: go with Andy Reid from my leader life that kind 728 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 5: of a similar thing. Nothing shakes him, and the play 729 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 5: calling is a side product of it. He's a great 730 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 5: play caller, yes. 731 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 4: We know that. 732 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 5: But the leadership that he's shown to handle the circus 733 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 5: that is the Kansas City Chiefs you're talking about Travis 734 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 5: Kelcey and Patrick Mahomes and Tyreek Hill in the early 735 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 5: earlier years to win Super Bowls every single year and 736 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 5: to get back to a championship every single year when 737 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 5: the circus around it isn't even involved with football the time. 738 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 4: A lot of the time, it's Taylor Swift. 739 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 5: A lot of the time, it's it's Caitlin Clark at 740 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 5: the game this past weekend. 741 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 4: A lot of times. 742 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 5: It's it's the Mahomes family outside of Patrick that are 743 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 5: doing weird stuff. 744 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 4: On TikTok every day. 745 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 5: Yet the focus has always been on two things, football 746 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 5: and cheeseburgers after a win. 747 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 8: And that's inficiating. 748 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. 749 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, and somehow he's got dark magics, the official Chi contendis, 750 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 5: so there's that level to it as well. All right, experience, Patrick, 751 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 5: I'll let you go first. 752 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 9: All this experience, you know, experience, I keep circling. There's 753 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 9: so many to go around, but I'm going to land 754 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 9: on Bill par Sales. 755 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 8: Oh damn, good choice. 756 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 9: I'm letting on Bill par Sales because that experience. I mean, 757 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 9: it's self explanatory. I don't have to get all the 758 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 9: you know what he's capable of, and you know the egos. 759 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 9: He's been able to rally together, glue together and get 760 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 9: success and get a Super Bowl championship. 761 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm going par Sales. 762 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with another Bill, mister Belichick. Just take 763 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 5: the Super Bowls playing and simple. He's won how many 764 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 5: of them now? 765 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 4: Seven? 766 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 6: Yeah? 767 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 4: Seven? 768 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 6: There? 769 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty good. So I'm gonna just take that one. 770 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 4: That's an easy win. Experience experience, mm hmm. 771 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 6: Let's go Pete Carroll. 772 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 4: That's a good one. 773 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 7: I thought you were going to say, Tom, No, it 774 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 7: was gonna be no, it would have been Bill Bellich Belichick. 775 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 7: I'll go with Pete Carroll. Pete Carol's seen it all. 776 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 7: He came from the Parsils tree as well. He's been 777 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 7: through those ranks. He understands. 778 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 6: He's seen it at the college level. He's seen it. 779 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 6: He's been a champion many many times. He's been multiple 780 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 6: Super Bowls. He's won it, he's lost it. Right, he 781 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 6: has the experience of feeling both a heartache in the 782 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 6: in the yeah, of course, the height of it. So 783 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 6: I think I will go with coach Carrol. 784 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 8: Okay, Belichick was my answer for a long time. When 785 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 8: I kind of interpreted this, I was sort of thinking of, like, Okay, well, 786 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 8: we saw Bill Belichick towards the end of his career 787 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 8: in the NFL, right, and we saw how that was 788 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 8: going and kind of an unwillingness to innovate when the 789 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 8: game is very much changed and he didn't have the 790 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 8: Hall of Fame quarterback that obviously one of all the 791 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 8: Super Bowls. I think now of a guy like John Harball. 792 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 8: I think about what he's done with different quarterbacks. I 793 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 8: think of what he's done he's won a super Bowl, 794 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 8: but I also think he has his best years ahead 795 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 8: of him. I don't think he's done by a long shot. 796 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 8: I think he's working with a team that is consistently 797 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 8: in the picture. But unlike a Mike Tomlin, this guy 798 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,479 Speaker 8: still performs in the playoffs. He really does. So yeah, 799 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 8: give me John Harball, just catch the sreaking ball. Mark Andrews. 800 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a tough one from Mark. All right. 801 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 5: Uh so yours, Joshes was Sean McVay, Jimmy Johnson, John Harrible. 802 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 5: That's pretty good trio that Patrick has, Ben Johnson, Tom Landry, 803 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 5: Bill Parcells. 804 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 4: You got the New age and the old age is 805 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 4: what you got out there. 806 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 5: Isaiah's was Rex Ryan, John Gruden, and Pete Carroll. 807 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 8: Guy NFL Network. NFL Network team. 808 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 7: Right, that's a competitive, energy, bus driven team, right there, Bb. 809 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 5: Those practices are gonna go. And then mine is Kyle Shanahan, 810 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 5: Andy Reid and Bill Belichick. 811 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: That's a lot of hill. 812 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 6: A lot of my practices are turned. We got a DJ. 813 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,959 Speaker 5: Everything ours is you better expect to get it done 814 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 5: and know the playbook and we'll make it happen for you. 815 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 6: We got DJ's and feet massages. 816 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:31,479 Speaker 4: Yeah. 817 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 8: Uh, mine feels like an overpower like Avengers. 818 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 5: Superhero Sehn McVay, Jimmy Johnson and john you get all 819 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 5: of it together, all right. That's gonna do it for 820 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 5: us here Talking Cowboys. Hope you had some fun with 821 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 5: us this week. We'll see if we have any answers 822 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 5: for you next week. Going into this, Uh I help 823 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 5: so matchup head coaching decision could be Jimmy, it could 824 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,240 Speaker 5: be Johnson, who knows whenever. 825 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 4: Next week for. 826 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,959 Speaker 5: The same different Josh Rodery is stand back for Chris 827 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 5: Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman saying so long 828 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 5: from Talking Cowboys. 829 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 4: We'll see you next week. This has been a production 830 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 4: of Dallascowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.