1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, what is up? Welcome to another edition of 2 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's me your man, NAMG. 3 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Marcus Grant, still masking and socially distancing. Year more than 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: a year into this and it's still the same either way. 5 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: We got a big show for you, joined as always 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: by Michael F. Floria. We got producer Steve on the boards. 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Normally I have some sort of happy talk to start, 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: but we've got a big beefy show today. So Floria, 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: how are you feeling? First of all, now that we're 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: a few days into free agency. I'm it's a weird feeling, 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: right because, like, I'm excited that we have football moves 12 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: going on, stuff to analyze. It's football. It's just like 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: the talk of sports right now, which is awesome. But 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking at these big free agent wide receivers and 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, somebody do something, like someone end 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: up on, someone signed, do something. So I've enjoyed it 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: so far, but I'm still waiting for these big splashes 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: to happen. We are guaranteed that these big splashes are 19 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: going to happen. Immediately after we finished recording this podcast, 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: like we'll be on the verge of putting it out UH, 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: and some of these big names are going to sign. 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: I'll get to some of those in just a second. 23 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: One housekeeping note. Last week on this show, I mentioned 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: the Big Data Bowl being hosted by our pal Cynthia Freeland. 25 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: That's actually happening today. Chances are by the time you 26 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: listen to this podcast, it will probably be over. But 27 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: if you missed it UM and you wanted to catch it, 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: it is going to be on demand at YouTube. You 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: can just go to UH or you can go to 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash Big Data Bowl. It will also 31 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: be there as well, so you've got a couple of 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: places that you can go and find it. Streaming should 33 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: be interesting. Cynthia, imagine is going to do a great 34 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: job hosting it. UH. The idea is to create a 35 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: new metric that determines what is a successful UH defensive 36 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: play from a cornerback or safety perspective. So they're basically 37 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: trying to track uh dB performance on a play by 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: play basis. We'll talk to Synthia next week about it 39 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: and trying to figure out how we can spin it 40 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: to our own greedy fantasy purposes. UH and that sort 41 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: of thing. So again. If you've missed it, check it 42 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: out NFL dot com, slash Big Data Bowl, or on YouTube. 43 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: The whole thing will be up there as well. All Right, 44 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: lots to talk about. I I'm all loaded up. I 45 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: got a big jug of water here because I imagine 46 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to need it before this thing is all 47 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: said and done. Also, I've got a separate monitor that 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: has tweet deck up and running just because I do think, uh, 49 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: something may happen in the course of recording this podcast, 50 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: so we may break in with some breaking news. Who knows, uh, 51 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: So stay tuned for that. That should be so so 52 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: much fun. Um. So, let's start though with some of 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: the notable names that are still out there in free agency. 54 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: Starting it running back, uh and this is the beginning 55 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: as of when we started this podcast, and it could change. 56 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: But Chris Carson, Leonard four Nett, Philip Lindsay just became 57 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: a free agent recently with the Broncos, so he is 58 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: out there now on the market. Kenyan Drake, Mike Davis, 59 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: James Conner. Those are some of your notable running backs 60 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: out there, the wide receivers. And this one is I 61 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: think some of a surprise here. Kenny Golladay, Will Fuller, 62 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: ju Ju Smith, Schuster, t Y Hilton, Antonio Brown, Josh 63 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: Reynolds all still available the tight ends. Before I was, 64 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, setting up to do this podcast, Jerrold Everett 65 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: was out there, but he is off the board now. 66 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that later. So Kyle Rudolph is still available, 67 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: Jared Cook, and Dan Arnold. If you're into the whole 68 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: Day Arnold thing. Uh, he's out there as a free 69 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: agent as well. Which of those names being still a 70 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: free agent surprises you right now? The biggest one is 71 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay. I thought for sure he was going to 72 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: be one of the first pieces off the board. He's 73 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: kind of viewed as the I would say, like cream 74 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: of the crop at a very uh skilled wade receiver 75 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: free agent class. He is viewed it as like being 76 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: uh towards the top of that list, if not the 77 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: number one and and the other one. I thought Juju 78 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: would have signed pretty quickly as well, just because he's 79 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: a big name. He can play a little bit outside 80 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: in the slot as well. You could find ways to 81 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: utilize him. So those two I thought were would sign 82 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: on day one, and now we're sitting here in day 83 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: four and they're still out there. I do know, you know, 84 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: the rumors have sort of swirled in the last few 85 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: hours with Gola Day that the Bengals I think may 86 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: be interested, the Giants may be interested in Kenny Golladay 87 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: with Juju, there's talk that maybe the Jets could be 88 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: a landing spot for him, no pun intended. Um, yeah, 89 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: which we got fun. He could reunite potentially with his 90 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: old pal Sam Donald and see if they can kind 91 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: of recreate what they had at USC together. So those 92 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: are the names that I'm with you. Those are the 93 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: ones that are sort of surprising. I feel like the 94 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: running backs may sort of linger out there. I think 95 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: a lot of these running backs we may not see 96 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: anything happen until maybe after the draft. Even well, we'll 97 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: see about that. I think the same tight ends. I 98 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 1: don't think there's gonna be any big rush to adding 99 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: into the tight ends that are out there at this 100 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: point as well. So again we're kind of monitoring this. 101 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: I'll just keep you know, peeking over at this other 102 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: screen to check on tweet deck to see if anything 103 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: comes across while we are doing this. But let's get 104 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: to the moves that we know have happened already, And 105 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: I just want to start with the Patriots just in general, 106 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: because they made a ton of moves on Day one, 107 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: and you know, it became sort of a meme for 108 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 1: a while, right that that Belichick was just throwing money 109 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: at guys, trying to bring players in left and right. 110 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: The big notable moves they made were adding some pass catchers. Uh, 111 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: and we'll get to them individually, but you know, Kyle 112 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: Route or Not, kind of Rudolph John new Smith, Hunter, 113 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: Henry Nelson, aghilor Kindrick Born, all the guys they brought 114 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: in there. My first question though, is now that they 115 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: added all these what does this do to you for 116 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: Cam Newton's draft value? For me, it keeps Cam Newton 117 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: as long as he was the starting quarterback there. Obviously, 118 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: it keeps him in the quarterback to arrange, like, I 119 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: don't want to draft this guy it's my starting quarterback 120 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: in a one quarterback league, but in a super flex 121 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: or two quarterback or in best Ball, I think it's 122 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: a place I really like him as a second or 123 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: even third quarterback if he's going that late in some drafts, 124 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: like I think that it definitely helps his value there 125 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: because we saw last year. He had some really big 126 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: games and some really bad games. And in a weekly 127 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: league where you sit your lineup each week, yeah, that's 128 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: gonna be really frustrating. But in a bestball league, like, 129 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: that's what you want. You want someone who can give you, 130 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: you know, twenty five plus points in any given week. 131 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: We know he can add points with his legs. The 132 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: issue last year was there was no one to catch 133 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: the ball and Marcus. It wasn't just that right like 134 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: he had COVID in the middle of the season. He 135 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: didn't sign until like the middle of June, and we 136 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: were speculating for months, like when is he gonna sign, 137 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: What's gonna happen. He was the last quarterback to sign, 138 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: so I just think last year, yeah, he looked really 139 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: brew will head times. But it was like everything that 140 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: could have went wrong went wrong for Cam Newton last season. 141 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: And that's the thing I I kind of landed on 142 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: is I was thinking about this right because I do 143 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: think this helps Cam's draft value. It helps his fantasy 144 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: potential here because last year the Patriots easily had the 145 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: worst wide receiver corps in the NFL. UM I don't 146 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: know that the guys they signed at wide receiver are 147 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: super splashy names, but they are now somewhere, you know, 148 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: slightly above being the worst wide receiver corps in the NFL. Uh. 149 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: You know, I haven't I haven't taken tabs on who 150 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: I think that is right now, but I don't think 151 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: it's the Patriots after they made these moves. So I 152 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: feel like there's nowhere to go for this group. But 153 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: so that's going to help. But I also kind of 154 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: went to the things you talked about with Cam. He 155 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: signed late um, he was coming off a year basically 156 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: a lost season because of injury he had COVID. We 157 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: have no idea how that's going to impact these guys 158 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: long term. It was something you mentioned a week or 159 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: two ago with Ezekiel Elliott that we have no idea 160 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: what it's going to do to some of these guys 161 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: long term and certainly within the season. I think it's 162 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: definitely a concern. So I feel like there are some 163 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: some asterisks next to what happened to Cam last season. 164 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: I say this is a fan and as a guy 165 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: who wants to see him kind of be successful and 166 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: play well again, I'm not really ready to completely give 167 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: up on him. But I'm sort of with you that 168 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm not also ready to make him the number one 169 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: quarterback on my team in what was last year a 170 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: low volume passing offense that didn't have any real weapons. Um, 171 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, I said, I don't think it can get 172 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: any worse than what we saw last year. But I'm 173 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: also not ready to say that that he's back to 174 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: being a top ten, you know, fantasy option at the 175 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: quarterback position this year. So now it's gonna go with 176 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: these these guys individually that the Patriots signed, and I 177 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: want to get your feelings, you know, stock up, stock down, 178 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: stock about the same for some of these guys making moves. 179 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: So I've put John new Smith and Hunter Henry together 180 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: because I just feel like we sort of have to 181 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: kind of talk about them together. When John Hu signed, 182 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: I think everybody was like, hey, this is great, Johnny, 183 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: you know to the moon, let's go get on board. 184 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: And then like a few hours later they signed Hunter 185 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: Henry and it was like it was like that Chris 186 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: Farley gift right where he's like, you know, smiling, and 187 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: all of a sudden the expression turns to like dismay 188 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: and sadness. That was fantasy Twitter after Hunter Henry signed 189 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: with the Patriots. I mean, is it just an automatic 190 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: stock down or do you have some hope that these 191 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: guys can can sort of, you know, hold their value 192 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: next year. I think the two of those two tight 193 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: ends could hold their value. I don't really think they 194 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: could exceed it. And I was one of those people 195 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: markets I was really excited when John Nusmith signed because 196 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: I do think John hu Smith is a better player 197 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: than the numbers that he has put up. In Tennessee, 198 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: they were just such a run heavy offense and and 199 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: at the time he was their first big signing, I 200 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: was like, he is going to be their number one 201 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: target unless they make a bunch of other moves, which 202 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: they ended up doing. And what I liked was I 203 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: looked back at Cam's first seven seasons from eleven through 204 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: before the injuries really started to pile up for him. 205 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: The last two years and last year, I think you 206 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: could throw out because the Patriots had no tight ends 207 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: at all to throw the ball to. Uh So in 208 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: those first seven years, seventhing devis Devin. What are you saying? 209 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: I mean he had what handful of catches last year? 210 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: I don't know. Uh he has no Johnny Smith. But uh, 211 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: in that those seasons can throw of his passes. That 212 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: was just under eight attempts per game on average, two 213 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: tight ends, and I got excited. But now with him 214 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: and Hunter Henry being there, I could see Hunter Henry 215 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: being used more, um like in between the twenties and 216 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: on a lot of like the intermediate routes. But I 217 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: think Johnny Smith could be their red zone go to 218 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: red zone guy, and that would be a nightmare. That 219 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: would be a nightmare. And again I say this all 220 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: the time. We are thirsty for tight ends and it 221 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: would have been great. I think if these guys ended 222 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: up in separate situations on two different teams, you're talking 223 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: about both of them easily being top ten options. Mike Clay, 224 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: who does a great job at at ESPN, put out 225 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: a tweet earlier in the week that, uh, it's really 226 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: hard to find a situation in the past where you've 227 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: had to top ten tight ends on the same team. Um, 228 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, last a couple of years ago, it was Philadelphia. 229 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: You had Zach Ertz and Dallas Goddard. But that was 230 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: a year where their whole wide receiver corps just evaporated 231 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: because of injury. And that was pretty much all they 232 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: had to throw the football too. The other one, the 233 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: one that everybody keeps talking about, and I guess it's 234 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: fitting because it's New England, was Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez. 235 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: That was a just a vastly different Patriots offense than 236 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: the one we're expecting to see this year. I don't 237 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: see the kind of volume available for both those guys 238 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: to get the targets necessary. And as much as I 239 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: loved him, there are still questions whether or not uh 240 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: he is the same player that he was before, and 241 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: whether or not he can deliver the ball enough to 242 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: sustained to top ten tight ends. So I do feel 243 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: like necessarily their values sort of have to go down. UM. 244 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: I assume, based on what you said that you're you're 245 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: taking John new over Hunter Henry if you have the choice. 246 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: I haven't fully decided yet. I actually I think I'm 247 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: leaning Hunter Henry just because I could see him being 248 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: the more consistent option. UM, But I don't think either 249 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: one of these guys is more than a low end 250 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: tight end one now. UM, And I continue to say it, 251 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: Marcus after the top five or six, however, like if 252 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: you after the top five, there's another tight end you 253 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: feel really strongly about. Maybe you can make it six, 254 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: But like for me, it's after the top five. There's 255 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: a blob of like fifteen tight ends that I would 256 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: not be surprised. You can mix and match them in 257 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: any order, and I wouldn't be surprised at how they 258 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: turned out. That last just keeps growing by some of 259 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: the moves that we're seeing as you say that, right, 260 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean one move that just popped up as we're 261 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: talking here. Uh, Hunter Henry leaves l A, leaves the Chargers. 262 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: Jared Cook has just signed with the Los Angeles Chargers 263 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: to fill that spot left by Hunter Henry. I can't 264 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: think of a player that just I mean maybe more oatmeal, 265 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: I guess is the best description when it comes to 266 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: fantasy than Jerry Cook. He's that guy that no one 267 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: loves drafting Jared Cook. No one's excited about drafting Jerry Cook, 268 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: but you do get three or four good usable weeks 269 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: a year out of him, just enough to sort of 270 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: get you excited, and then he sort of vanishes again. 271 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean, any immediate reaction to Jared Cook landing in 272 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: l A. My my first immediate thought was I hope 273 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: this does not deter them from drafting Kyle Pitts if 274 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: he calls, because that's what I want to have in 275 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: so bad. I just think that he would be the 276 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: final piece to make in this offense really special. But 277 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: as for Cook, like if he is the loan tight end, 278 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: the starting tight end, there there is Donald Parham, who 279 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people love as well. There Um, that 280 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: puts a little bit of a wet blanket on his breakout. 281 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: And to me, Cook would be more of the best 282 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: ball pick though, because I, like you said, Margaret's three 283 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: or four random, good, really good games. I don't have 284 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: to guess when those are going to be to get 285 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: him in my lineup, um, because I do remember after 286 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: Henry said he or you know, after we've learned Henry 287 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: was going to hit free agency, everybody was tweeting about 288 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: Donald Parham and my first thought was, is this gonna 289 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: be Virgil Green all over again? Like there were so 290 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: many years where everybody kept, you know, honking on virtual 291 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: Green is gonna be the next big thing, and it 292 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: just never happened. And that was my first stole with Parham. 293 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: Now you've got Jared Cook, So those two are gonna 294 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: battle it out for snaps and targets. Um getting back 295 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: to the Patriots, though Nelson Agalor signs there after coming 296 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: off a career year with the Las Vegas Raiders. Now 297 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: he goes to New England where he is at least 298 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: on paper maybe maybe if they be the modified number one, 299 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if that still belongs to Julian Edelman. 300 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure either way Nelson Agler is going 301 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: to get I think play of opportunity, UM. Do you 302 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: like him more now in New England than you did 303 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas? I I think his ceiling is higher 304 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: in New England. I think it ultimately comes down to 305 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: is Cam Newton gonna be able to get him the 306 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: ball on those deep routes? Because if he is, I 307 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: think the volume there is is going to help him 308 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: be even better than he was last year. And I 309 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: think Nelson Agiler was better than people give him credit for. UM. 310 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: And I looked at his stats this year last and 311 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: the Patriots number one wide receiver, whoever it may be, 312 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: and I mean Nelson Agler is better and basically every 313 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: stat fantasy wise, real life wise, deep threat wise, like 314 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: he was just better than everything the Patriots had to offer, 315 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: So I think with the money they gave him to 316 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: he will be their number one target. I have a 317 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: working theory that Julian Edelman does not want to play 318 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: in New England and that he uh saw all Brady 319 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: and Gronk having all that fun in Tampa Bank He's 320 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: jealous and he wants to end up there because he 321 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I don't know if I'm gonna be 322 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: able to healthy to play or not this year. I 323 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: think the Patriots were like, all right, we'll waive you. 324 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: We'll let you go wherever you want. He'll be in 325 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: Tampa like that. Um, But I do think Nelson Agilor 326 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: will be their number one wide receiver for fantasy. I 327 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: like him more as like a wide receiver three or 328 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: four ish and that range. Nothing that I would go 329 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: too hard to get on my team. But I think 330 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: he is better than people give him credit for it. 331 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: And I think the Raiders found a new way to 332 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: sort of use him, and and uh, you know, our 333 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: buddy Matt Harmon was tweeting about this yesterday with his 334 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: great reception reception stuff that in Philadelphia he was more 335 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: of kind of a short area underneath sort of guy. 336 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: And and you know he excelled when he was great 337 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: after the catch. The Raiders used him more as a 338 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: a deep threat, field stretcher sort of guy, which was 339 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: Is that what we expected because we all thought Henry 340 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: Ruggs was gonna be that player, which he wasn't at 341 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: least last year. UM. So we'll see if the Patriots 342 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: use him as section. We'll see if camp get him 343 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: the ball downfield, because if that second part doesn't happen, um, 344 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: then Nelson is just out there getting the steps in. Uh. 345 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: The last guy that the Patriots signed at least of 346 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: noteworthy to us, Kendrick Borne, who he got his opportunities 347 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: in San Francisco mostly because they had so many other injuries, 348 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: but he was fairly buried down the depth chart. UM. 349 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,239 Speaker 1: I don't know that this makes a big splash, but 350 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: maybe this means more opportunity for him going to New England. 351 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he'll have to be in 352 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: a like help to win out that job. Jacoby Myers 353 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: played pretty well last year, nikkil Harry as of now 354 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: is still on their roster, and the first round pick 355 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: two years ago, so I could see those three being 356 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: in a camp battle. I think Kendrick Borne is a 357 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: better real life piece for the Patriots and for fantasy 358 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: because I expect Aguilor to be getting targets ahead of him. 359 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, if he does play this year for the Patriots, 360 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: I think he'll be ahead of them. Both tight ends 361 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: I could see getting targeted over him. So at that point, 362 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: it's like you're gonna be in a run heavy offense 363 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: with a quarterback that has a shoulder woes that we 364 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: are concerned about, and at best you're probably like the 365 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: third or fourth target. So to me, I don't have 366 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: a lot of interest and things. Not an original thought here, 367 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: but the Patriots, for all their success over the last 368 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: twenty years, it's generally not been very good at scouting 369 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: and or drafting wide receivers. I mean they ran into 370 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: Randy Moss, that was great. Julian Edelman has has done 371 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: good things for them, But on the whole, uh, it 372 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: is that that's an area where they have not necessarily 373 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: been great. And like I said, I don't know that 374 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: these names really jump out at anybody. And we'll see 375 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: what happens with them and cam there in New England. 376 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: All right, Now to the rest of the signings. Again, 377 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: things are still happening. We'll see what comes across the 378 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: news wire as as we do this. But let's start 379 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: with our old pal. Alan Robinson looks for all the 380 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: world like he was getting out of the Chicago Land area. 381 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: Which side note, I love the fact that they called 382 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: the region Chicago Land because it just sounds super al 383 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: capone mob story to me. Um. But I mean, he 384 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: basically made it sound like he was done, he didn't 385 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: want to come back. We as we've talked about. He 386 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: even said he didn't like the city of Chicago, which 387 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: is still a head scratcher to me. And then what 388 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: do the Bears do. They franchise tag him, so that's 389 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: gonna make him happy. Uh. And then they follow that up, Uh, 390 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: they failed to get Russell Wilson in a deal. They 391 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: can't get anything done for Deshaun Watson, so they signed 392 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton to come in and be their quarterback. Which 393 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: if you're Allen Robinson, like I mean, you're just you're 394 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: you're throwing things right, You're punching the air like this 395 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: is this is the worst case scenario potentially for you 396 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: from what you wanted. Um. The thing we love about 397 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: a rob is that through all the years, through all 398 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: the bad quarterbacks he has been through, he has still 399 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: continued to be productive and that has allowed us to 400 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: continue to draft him in the top two or three 401 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: rounds every single year. Do we still believe in that, 402 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: can this still continue like at some point, like you know, 403 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: it us to fall off right or or do we 404 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: still just sort of trust that a rob is gonna 405 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: be a rob and he'll figure out a way to 406 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: provo to produce even with Dalton slinging the rock to him. 407 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: So I'm a huge advocate of Alan Robinson, and last 408 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: year I ranked him actually my fifth wide receiver, like 409 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: coming into the year, and I realized why mistake was 410 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: thinking that Allen Robinson can lift his quarterback where that 411 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: at quarterback like Nick falls is gonna take him to 412 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: that next step and like Andy Dalton to me comes 413 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: in the same range. So I'm not gonna make the 414 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: mistake this year of having him in my top five. 415 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna make the mistake either of taking 416 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: him out of my top twelve and not having him 417 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: as a wide receiver one because I didn't coming into 418 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: this year, he is one of the safest bets for 419 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty plus targets, like he's done that 420 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: in each of the last two years. The Bears, I 421 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: know they like Darnell Mooney, but there's they're gonna run 422 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: this offense again through Allen Robinson. So I think, well, 423 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: I wanted him to go elsewhere. I do think the 424 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: Bears were his safest landing spot to get that a 425 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: hundred fifty plus targets. Andy Dalton hasn't really looked much 426 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: better than Trabisky or Fulds the last couple of years, 427 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: but I think his ceiling is still somewhat higher. But yeah, 428 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: to me, it just it. It limits Allen robinson ceiling 429 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: and keeps him kind of in that like wide receiver 430 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: ten or eleven off the board range. In my opinion, 431 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Um. You know, it's funny because 432 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: that's sort of the way you described a rob just now. 433 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: Is sort of the way I talked about Mike Evans 434 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: last year, is that like I didn't think he was 435 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: going to be a top five guy, but I was 436 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: too scared to take him out of my top twelve. Um, 437 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: And you know, he ended up in the top twelve, 438 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: and it ended up sort of working out, and I 439 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: think that's kind of the same thing for Allen Robinson. 440 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: He's still going to be a target monster in this 441 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: offense because there's nobody else that I feel confident. He's 442 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: really going to just eat up a whole lot of opportunities. 443 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: So most of the throws are probably gonna go towards Robinson. Um, 444 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: you know, he's going to have his normal catch ray, 445 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna make his place, he's gonna find the end zone. 446 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna be fine. I think we just all were 447 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: hoping for more. We just wanted to see what could 448 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: be unlocked if he got a quarterback that could get 449 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: him the ball. Um. You know, Andy Dalton is sort 450 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: of in the I was gonna say, the backup phase 451 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: of his career, but he's got to be the starter, 452 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: probably in Chicago unless something really dramatic happens. Um. So 453 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: it's like it's just it's nothing to get excited about. 454 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: You just hope that that he continues to be the 455 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: guy he has been throughout his football life. UM, I 456 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: just wanted so much more for him. I just wanted 457 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: so much more. I don't want to defend the Bears 458 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: organization at all. After the last couple of seasons. But 459 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: they did make a legitimate offer for Russell Wilson. It 460 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: was three first and a couple other pieces, So they 461 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: tried at least. I guess they get some credit for that. 462 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: That's true. Um. And also I think says something about 463 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: how they feel about Sam Donald that they didn't really 464 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: even try that they would. They felt like they wanted 465 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton over trying to make a deal for Sam Donald. Um. 466 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: That maybe it's a different conversation for different I did 467 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: see a reporter tweeting this week that fans and media 468 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: at higher than I did see that that there was 469 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: I think an NFL exactly basically said he stinks. So yeah, 470 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: I I caught that as well. I thought that was interesting. UM, 471 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: So here's one that I think, you know, maybe maybe 472 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,479 Speaker 1: hits you in the gut a little bit. Florio. Marlon 473 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: Mack resigned with the Jackson Earth Jackson I'm looking at 474 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: other things, resigned with the Indianapolis Colts. So Marlon Mack 475 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: is back in Indianapolis. Um. This set off kind of 476 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: an interesting conversation on Twitter about what this means for 477 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. Uh. My first thought was when I saw 478 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: that was to tweet at you, like, how are you 479 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: feeling about this? Uh? You responded back with the Steve Carell, 480 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to put on a brave face right now. Um, 481 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: now that you've had some time to sort of sit 482 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: with this and think about it a little bit, have 483 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: you have you changed the way you feel? Are you 484 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: trying to be more optimistic? We're are you right now? 485 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 1: I Am trying to be a little bit more optimistic 486 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: because I don't want to have a dooming gloom view 487 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: every time in running back signs. But to me, this 488 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: was a little bit different than like if they brought 489 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: in like a Carlos High like the Jaguars did with 490 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: James Robinson. Like, to me, I don't really worry about 491 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: Carlos Hide. But Marlon Mack was drafted by the Colts. 492 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: Marlon Mack has been a multiple year starter for the Colts. 493 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: Marlon Mack suffered this severe injury and they still went 494 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: out and signed him. So to me, that shows that 495 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: they clearly know him and they clearly like him. And 496 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: I keep having flashbacks to last season when Nahem Hanes 497 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: was being utilis in the passing game, and it was 498 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: kind of like Taylor and Hans splitting the past game work, 499 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: and then Taylor and Jordan Wilkins splitting the ground game work. 500 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: And I know it's easy for people to say, like, oh, 501 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: this isn't gonna change anything for Jonathan Taylor Marlon Mack 502 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: at most, what is he gonna get a couple of 503 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 1: touches per game? But I'm sitting here, like known mock 504 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: draft a couple of weeks ago, markets I took him 505 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: third overall. To take him third overall, you have to 506 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: be confident in my opinion that he's gonna get twenty 507 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: touches a game. Marlon Mack is a threat to that. 508 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: And if Marlon McK is seeing a couple of touches 509 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: per game that lowis Jonathan Taylor down to maybe seventeen 510 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: per game. To me, that is still a knockworth thinking 511 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: about and considering when you're talking about taking him that high. Now, 512 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: there are some people out there who still believe that 513 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: j T can be that twenty touch per game guy, 514 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: even with Marlon Mack there. Um, you know, I know 515 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: that that people have expressed concerns about Matt coming off 516 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: an Achilles injury, which has generally sort of been a 517 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: career ender for all intents and purposes for running backs. Um, 518 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see about that. We'll also see whether 519 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: or not Frank Reich and that offense is committed to 520 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: running the football, because we know how great that offensive 521 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: line can be. Um, but I do think there is 522 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: there's a vast difference between feeling like he's going to 523 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: be that true workhorse, bell, cow, whatever you want to 524 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: call him, that makes you confident enough to take him 525 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: within the first four or five picks, and to think 526 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: he's going to be sort of a lead back with 527 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: somebody else that comes in occasionally to get some touches 528 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: and that's where you get him sort of late. And 529 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: so as this conversation was happening on on two or Wednesday, 530 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: I guess, Um, I sort of you know, had a 531 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: light bulb go. I was like, well, wait a minute, 532 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: people don't seem to be worried about Jonathan Taylor in 533 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: his draft value. So that made me wonder, well, where 534 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: are people taking it? So I did I put out 535 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: a poll on Twitter to sort of ask the question 536 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: about it, and um, right now, I mean there's still 537 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: a couple of hours left on it, but I said 538 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: early first round late first round or round two? Um, 539 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: it is late first round, Round two is running away 540 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: with it. I mean people say either late first round 541 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: or second round. That makes up about eighty three almost 542 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: eighty four percent of the responses. Early first round was 543 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: just six. So that made me start to think that 544 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: that you and I and Adam Rank and maybe some 545 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: other folks out there are way higher on Jonathan Taylor, 546 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: or at least were way higher on Jonathan Taylor before 547 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: this news happened. Um, I mean, were we just were 548 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: we wish casting? Were we being too hopeful? Or is 549 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: it just that you know, we're ahead of the curve 550 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: and we're waiting for people to catch up to us. 551 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really know, but it just that 552 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: blew me away that people didn't see Jonathan Taylor the 553 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: same way a lot of us did. Yeah. My I 554 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: could be biased because you know how I feel about 555 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, but I think that we are ahead of 556 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: the curve. And my expectation from having him, like taking 557 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: him third overall in that mock draft was this is 558 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: going to become north like it's gonna be seemed like 559 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: a wacky pick now and like I reached, but I 560 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: thought com August, this is gonna be the norm. And 561 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: I think because we're not fully alone in here markets 562 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: like you said, Adam Rank, and here's other fantasy analysts 563 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: I know who have him ranks at highly. And I 564 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: think it's people like us who we we do this 565 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: every day. Um, I think that we view him a 566 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: little bit higher than the people who remember, you know, 567 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: last season and Jonathan Taylor being a good back and 568 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: a low nd RB one, So they're like, all right, 569 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: we'll put him in the end of round one or 570 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: early round two. But I think it's more and more 571 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: people start to dive into Kynasy football, He's gonna go 572 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: higher and higher. Even with this Momon max signing the 573 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: lowest I would push him down its seventh overall, Like 574 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't push him far at all. I mean, I 575 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: think the question is who do you view him as 576 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: being resembling? More right, does he resemble Dalvin Cook as 577 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: a guy who's just gonna sort of dominate and be 578 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: kind of an everything guy in the backfield, or see 579 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: more of like and Aaron Jones. And we'll talk about 580 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones in a minute. But a guy that you 581 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: know is maybe going to be a lead back, but 582 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: it's not going to have the whole backfield to himself. 583 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: And it sounds like the majority of people are leaning 584 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 1: towards him being more of an Aaron Jones type than 585 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: say a Dalvin Cook or a Sa Kuan type. And 586 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: that surprised me. That definitely surprised me. I didn't I 587 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: didn't think that was gonna be the case. UM. Down 588 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: in New Orleans, Jamis Winston resigns with the New Orleans Saints. 589 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: That's the good news. The not so great news is 590 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: that Sean Payton says he's going to compete with Taysom 591 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: Hill for the starting quarterback job. UM. So, having that knowledge, 592 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: do you think Jamis is draftable? In other words, do 593 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: you think Jamis is going to win this competition and 594 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: be the QB one. I hope he does. I think 595 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: that he is the better passer of the two. I 596 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: think that their offense becomes more explosive with Jamis Winston. 597 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: But I do worry if they want to go the 598 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: opposite route of that and like be a team that 599 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: controls the clock and they run so much because that 600 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: is obviously built forward Taysom Hill and I am just 601 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: always weary too go against Sean Payton's love for Taysom Hill. 602 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: But I will say, as of now, I think Jamis 603 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: will be the starter. But I say that with very 604 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 1: little confidence. Obviously, I feel like we all believe if 605 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: Jamis is the starter, that's much better her news for 606 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean, certainly for Michael Thomas, um definitely for Alvin Camara. 607 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: We we saw sort of how Tassom craterd Kmara's fantasy production, 608 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: and I know that was a thing that we've talked 609 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: about before. Is in trying to rank Camara, we really 610 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 1: wanted to see who the quarterback was going to be. Uh, 611 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: you know it's not gonna be Drew Brees because he 612 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: officially announced his retirement, but it is now interesting to 613 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: see who his successor is going to be. Because we're 614 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: talking about Sean Payton, I had to ask, do you 615 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: think he would have the temerity, the straight up gal 616 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: the trollishness, Because I do believe Sean Payton does like 617 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: to actively troll fantasy people. I think it's I think 618 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: it's a part time hobby of his. Would he be 619 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: the person to actually go quarterback by committee right to 620 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: have Jamis be the guy maybe between the twenties and 621 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: to bring Taysom Hill in when they get you know, 622 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: around the tin yard liner. So would he actually do 623 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: that to us? And how much of a blood letting 624 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: would there be on Fantasy Twitter if that turned out 625 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: to be the case. I one h am afraid that 626 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: that is going to happen markets Like, I think it 627 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: would be exactly the way you said to like, uh, 628 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: like all right, you know, in the middle of the field, 629 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,239 Speaker 1: like in between the twenties Jamis Winston. But we get 630 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: near the goal on we're bringing in Taysom Hill and 631 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: those big boys up front, and we're gonna run it 632 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: in and try to get creative. Because I don't think 633 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna be just like all right, one drive waits in, 634 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: one drive Taysom Hill. I think it's gonna be like 635 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: I think it's in the realm of possibility that Champagne 636 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: just goes out there says, I'm doing what I want 637 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 1: to do. I don't care about fantasy or anything. Uh. 638 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: He kind of reminds me, you know, like the Creed 639 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: gift from the office where it's like he don't give 640 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: about nothing, like that's shop paying right now to be 641 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: And uh I I do fear this, and I think 642 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: it would be awful for fantasy because you would not 643 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: be able to start either Taysom Hill or Jamis Winston 644 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: at all. Yeah. No, they both be unusable at that point, 645 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: you know, because then you're you're praying for James us 646 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: to throw long touchdowns. Um. But the theory is Tayson's 647 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: gonna come in at some point and start to get 648 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: those Russians, which not only affects Jamis but also affects 649 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: a guy like Camara, affects Michael Thomas. Um. Yeah, that 650 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: that would be the absolute worst case scenario. And I 651 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't put put it past Sean Payton for a second 652 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: that he would do this. We'll get a season and 653 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: a Jamis with five thousand yards in less than ten touchdowns. 654 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: That would be so awful, especially if he still has 655 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: his interception prone ways. Although you know, I guess he's 656 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: he's not blind anymore, right, He got Lacy. He can 657 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: see that everything's cool there. Uh. You mentioned Aaron Jones 658 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: and he's coming back to Green Bay signed a what 659 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: is ostensibly a four year deal, though you know, all 660 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: the machinations and contract language means the Packers can sort 661 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 1: of get out from underneath it after two whatever, um, 662 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: it looked like he was ready to go to Miami. 663 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: Him coming back to Green Bay. Does this Does this 664 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: impact sort of how you feel about him? Or is 665 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: it just like, Okay, well we know what he is 666 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: and that's fine. It's a little bit of both. Like 667 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: I I trust him as an RB one now with 668 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: Green Bay because he's done it the last two years, 669 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: has been a top six running back on top five actually, 670 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: and the only other running back to do so in 671 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: two Shade seasons is Derrick Henry. But what I like 672 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: even more about Aaron Jones now is Jamal Williams is gone. 673 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: Like Jamal Williams was the thorn in his side. Uh 674 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: And I know a J. Dillon is still there. But 675 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: Jamal Williams really hurt Jones and the fact that he's 676 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: a great pass blocker. He would it was like a 677 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: sixty forty split last season with the past game usage 678 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: in terms of routes and targets per game. So that 679 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: is not a threat that A J. Dillon is gonna 680 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: presents two Jones anymore because he caught once one balls 681 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: in his entire college career and last season he had 682 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: two targets all year. I don't think he is suddenly 683 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: gonna become Jamal Williams and hurt Aaron Jones in that way. 684 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: And it's something we talked about a lot. Marcus passing 685 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: game usage is more valuable to running back in fantasy 686 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: than just carries, absolutely is. Um, what is the mood 687 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: do you think in the A. J. Dylon hive right now? 688 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: Because they were they were ready. I mean they were 689 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: absolutely ready for Aaron Jones to be gone to Miami 690 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: for A J. Dylon and his tree trunk legs to 691 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: take over as the RB one there. Um, I mean 692 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: this has this has to be the Packers basically just 693 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: throwing rocks at this hive and it it cannot be 694 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: a happy time, especially if you invested in A. J. 695 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: Dillon in Dynasty and we're waiting for this moment um. 696 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: This has to be worst case scenario for those folks, right, 697 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: I mean it just it couldn't get it because because 698 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: not only it's a two year deal, right, so that 699 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: means Dylan in theory is behind him for two seasons 700 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: unless something big happens. So any Dynasty investment you had 701 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: in in A. J. Dillon, Um, it's kind of gone 702 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: up in smoke right now, hasn't it. Oh yeah, and 703 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: it's I mean, just look at the Packers drift class 704 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: from last year and you could It's just like you 705 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: can make fun of them almost like you could these 706 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: Dynasty people because a quarterback and running back in their 707 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: their first two rounds and you sign Aaron Jones and 708 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: then you have Aaron Rodgers be the m v P. 709 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: It just looks awful and in retrospect, but I think 710 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: Dylan could be could get some touchdowns here, maybe a 711 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: few carries a game, but I don't think you could 712 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: use them in Fantasy weekly. So yeah, if you gave 713 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: up anything in Dynasty for him, you are not happy 714 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: at all, Right, You're really unhappy at the moment um. 715 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: But speaking of which, it looked for all the world 716 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: like if Aaron Jones left Green Bay, Miami was going 717 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: to be his destination. Both Jones and the Dolphins admitted 718 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: that they had interest in in each other. Obviously that 719 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: didn't happen. Miami turns around they signed Malcolm Brown, so 720 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: he's gone from l A, which sort of shrinks that 721 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: running back room, which is good news for cam Akers. Um, 722 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: do you think the Dolphins do anything else? Do they 723 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: stay with this? And if so, that feels like a 724 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: headache waiting to happen, trying to figure out who the 725 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: running back is going to be. Yeah, I could still 726 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: see them adding a running back in the draft. I 727 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 1: do think Miles Gaskin's benefited because, like if they signed 728 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones or Chris Carson or someone like that, they 729 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: were going to be the starting running back. I think 730 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: with Malcolm Brown it is going to be, like you said, 731 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: it could very well be a headache. It could be 732 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: a camp battle. The one thing I loved in Miami 733 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: last year was whoever the running back was to lead back, 734 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: that's who they rode that week. So I think Brown 735 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: provides valuable depth here. He could beat out Gaskins and 736 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: Akhmed for the job, but I did right now. It 737 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: is very much so a competition that we're gonna have 738 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: to monitor all summer. It's yeah. I mean I saw 739 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: the signing, I was like, okay, I mean, my my 740 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: worst fear was that suddenly they were going to decide 741 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: to go with a rotation, because, as you mentioned, what 742 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: we loved about the Dolphins was that they were pretty 743 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: much a one back offense right when it was Miles 744 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: Gaskin's turn. It was Miles Gaskin, it was savanak Met, 745 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: it was just him. Um, we didn't really have to 746 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: worry so much about guys splitting snaps. This to me 747 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: feels like if they don't go out and get another 748 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: running back and they don't draft somebody, if they don't 749 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 1: maybe sign another guy in free agency, this almost feels 750 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 1: like maybe they're gonna do something to kind of split 751 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: up the workload. Um. Because the other part of it 752 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: is they did have injury issues too. I mean Miles 753 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: Gaskon for all the work, he did miss some games 754 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: because of injury. And so you wonder whether or not 755 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: the Dolphins looked at that and said, Okay, well we've 756 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: got to take some of the work off of his plate. Uh. 757 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: And that was why they brought in a guy like 758 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown. So we'll see what happens there. Uh. Coming 759 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 1: back to the West Coast, A J. Green has found 760 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: a new home. Um, like a lot of folks who 761 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: were later in their careers, they go to Arizona to retire. 762 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know that until I moved to 763 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: the West Coast because on everyone in on the East coast, 764 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: moved to Florida. Yeah, yeah, no, Arizona. Phoenix is like 765 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: it's like west coast Miami without the ocean. Um. I 766 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: mean there's sand in the form of the desert and 767 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: it's hot all the time. But you just can't you know. 768 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: I guess if you count Lake have a sou that's 769 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: sort of it. But but yeah, people go retire to 770 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: Phoenix quite a bit. You play a lot of golf there. 771 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: That's that's good. Um. So A J. Green the last 772 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: few years has I mean he's dealt with injuries. He 773 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 1: just hasn't been on the field a whole lot when 774 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: he has, especially last year, didn't look anything like the A. J. 775 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: Green that we all fell in love with so many 776 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: years ago in Cincinnati. Um does a change of scenery 777 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: change how you feel about drafting him? Not really know? A. J. 778 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: Green is gonna be thirty three this upcoming season. He 779 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 1: has really not been able to stay healthy in quite 780 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: some time. Uh. The last time we saw him put 781 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: up like useful fantasy numbers was in eighteen, so that's 782 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: three seasons ago now At this point. For me, though, 783 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: it depends on where he goes, Like if he's a 784 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: late round dart throw. Sure, I'll take a flyer on 785 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: him in the league, but I don't anticipate that. I 786 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: anticipate people seeing the name AJ Green, seeing him in 787 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: Arizona with Kyler Murray and thinking, oh my god, he's 788 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: gonna get single coverage because everyone's gonna give the attention 789 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: to nuke so he could break out and and you know, 790 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: be rejuvenated. I don't want to buy any of that 791 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: after seeing what he did last year. Um out on 792 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: A J. Green. So unless he's going really cheap, I'm 793 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: gonna let someone else have him. So yeah, I mean 794 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm totally out. I you know, I had a buddy 795 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: who you know, hit me up and was just like, 796 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, you know, don't fall into the A J. 797 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: Green trap, don't fall into the A J. Green trap. 798 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: And I'm like, this seems like a pretty easy trap 799 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: to avoid. Like there's nothing about what I've seen from 800 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: A J. Green the last few years that gets me 801 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 1: excited about drafting him. I mean, like that is he's 802 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: sort of the draft pick that you know somebody in 803 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: your league is going to make, and it's the person 804 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: who hasn't necessarily followed along closely for the last few years. Right, 805 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: It's just like somebody who's like, yeah, i'll play a 806 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: fantasy I'll be in your league this year, and like 807 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: they haven't really watched anything and they just see the 808 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: name AJ Green. They're like, why is a J. Green 809 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: still available in the eighth round? Sure, Um, it's fun because, 810 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: as he was saying, don't fall for that trap, my 811 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: thinking was like, the dude he's gonna show to your 812 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: draft with like a magazine, is gonna be like in 813 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: the eighth round A Green Still They're like, what's going 814 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: on there? Suckers? Which I can't real you let me 815 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: have him? Um, you know, Steve says he's been this person. Steve, 816 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: now that you're now that you were helping on this show, 817 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: we will help you to not be this person that 818 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: is that is one of my goals. Please I will 819 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: need that help. I will need that help. Absolutely that 820 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: we were here from the market. Yeah, so even if 821 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: you just pick up some stuff by Osmosis, you'll be okay. Um, 822 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: this did. They'll lead to an interesting conversation between on 823 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: Twitter between you and our pal Jake seely where you 824 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: know you said, Jake tweeted something about maybe moving Christian 825 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: Kirk to the slot and having him sort of prosper there, 826 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: and you you you jumped in with you know, I've 827 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: been trying to kind of avoid this Christian Kirk thing, 828 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: and you're gonna draw me back in. I also was 829 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,720 Speaker 1: kind of like, yeah, I don't know, I've been burned 830 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: by Christian Kirk and maybe I'm walking away. But Jake 831 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: was really trying to sort of, you know, promote this 832 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: idea that that Christian Kirk is the next in line. 833 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: All right. A couple of years ago we had Davante Parker. 834 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: Last year we had Corey Davis. Maybe this year's you're 835 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 1: kind of late Loomer would be Christian Kirk. Were you 836 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: were you swayed by that argument? Are you starting to 837 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 1: buy into that at all? A little bit um? Because 838 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, I believe is talented. There's a reason, Marcus, 839 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: why me and you keep getting drawn back into it 840 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: because he shows flashes and we're like, wow, if he's 841 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,439 Speaker 1: ever given the opportunity or anything like, he can play. 842 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: And I got drawn in hard. Last year he had 843 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: a four game stretch where he was just going off 844 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: and scoring like touchdowns every week, and he put up 845 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: like thirty something points against the Seahawks or whatever it was, 846 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: and I was really in and I thought he was 847 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: going to break out now with Kylin Murray, and then 848 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: he did nothing the rest of the way. I do 849 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: think though, with a J. Green another outside threat, if 850 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: they put him on the outside and they use Christian 851 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: Kirk in the slot, to me, it could lead to 852 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: a J. Green going in like the eighth or ninth 853 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: round and Christian Kirk being a late round dart er 854 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: that you get for cheap. And if that's the case, 855 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: then I will get I will come back in. But 856 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: if you have to pay the usual August hype for 857 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, I will probably to keep trying to talk 858 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: myself out of it, which I think. I don't think 859 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: there would have been the usual August hype for Christian Kirk. 860 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: But maybe this kind of you know, fires that back 861 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: up again, in which case, yeah, I'm sort of with you, 862 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: like I don't. I don't think I can deal with 863 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: that that frustration again. I mean, I was of the 864 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: opinion that the Cardinals should bring in maybe a Will 865 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: Fuller or a John Brown and bring John Brown back 866 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 1: to Arizona where he started and have him kind of 867 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: fill that role that they've been waiting on Christian Kirk 868 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 1: to fill and it just hasn't really happened. Um, so 869 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: I will. I'm gonna keep a close eye on it 870 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: and see what happens. Now. The other part of this 871 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: is we still, as of this moment, haven't heard officially 872 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: what Larry Fitzgerald is going to do. The assumption is 873 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: he's going to retire, but you know that's that's not 874 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: a guarantee. If Larry Fitzgerald doesn't retire, if he comes 875 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,879 Speaker 1: back for another year, then that really throws a wrench 876 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: in this whole thing, right because you know he's gonna 877 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: be out there and he's gonna get his snaps. What 878 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: does that mean for Kirk? Does he does he go 879 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: to the outside of the share time with with aj 880 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: Green out there? Do the Cardinals just basically load up 881 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: on four wide receiver sets all the time? Um? You know? 882 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: And is there enough to go around after you know, 883 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: Nuke takes his hundred and fifty, hundred and sixty targets 884 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: that he's going to get. Like Larry Fitzgerald right now 885 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: is sort of the fly in the ointment and that 886 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: sounds bad, right, And he's Obviously the guy is a 887 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,879 Speaker 1: great player. He's gonna be a Hall of Famer. He's 888 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: been Fantasy Gold for years. Uh So maybe I should 889 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: find another phrase for it, but he is he's sort 890 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: of the key piece in this whole thing where if 891 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: he doesn't retire, then sudden we really do have to 892 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: change how we're feeling about this wide receiver group right now. 893 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: Completely agree, because the one thing we know is that 894 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: if Larry Fitzgerald is playing, Larry Fitzgerald is going to 895 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: be used in the slot like that is just who 896 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: he is at this point in his career, and that 897 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,959 Speaker 1: could lead to Christian Kirk being used as the fourth 898 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver, maybe spelling AJ Green at times, spelling Fits 899 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: at times. Uh. And I know they've used Ford wide 900 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 1: receiver sets a good amount under Hip Kingsbury, but I 901 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: don't think there's enough to go around for more because, 902 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: like you said, easy hundred and fifty targets for DeAndre Hopkins, 903 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: A J. Green, you have to imagine, is going to 904 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: see a good amount and then it will be Kirk 905 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,919 Speaker 1: and Fits Generald fighting for what's left on a team 906 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 1: that is gonna have their quarterback scramble a good amount 907 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: as well, so a lot of the Christian Kirk thing 908 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: all comes down to Larry fitz child and retiring. I'll 909 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,439 Speaker 1: say that also the last person out of the Andy 910 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: Isabella Truther room, please turn off the lights. I feel 911 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: like that one that one might officially be done now 912 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: after year. Probably should be. It probably should be. Um, 913 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: but Washington football team made a couple of moves. They 914 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: add Ryan Fitzpatrick, which I know had everybody fired up 915 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,280 Speaker 1: about Terry mcclurin. They also go out and they signed 916 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel to a three year deal. So Samuel leaves 917 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: UH Carolina. He is reunited with his old coach, Ron 918 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 1: Rivera in Washington. UM. Look, sam has been I think 919 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: part of what has helped his value is that has 920 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: been sort of a jack of all trades, right. They 921 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 1: used him sort of a short area guy, trying to 922 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 1: get him the football, That used him as a runner 923 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: to kind of supplement, especially last year with no Christian McCaffrey. 924 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: He was a nice compliment to Mike Davis to gotta 925 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: do some other things. UM, I don't know if that's 926 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: going to happen in Washington. Not sure exactly how they're 927 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 1: going to use him there. With the football team. But 928 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: I do think this is an opportunity for him to 929 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,879 Speaker 1: see more targets instead of trying to fight with DJ 930 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: Moore and Robby Anderson there. So I think in that 931 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 1: respect it's a good thing. We know Ryan Fitzpatrick is 932 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: going to be a yolo guy. Um, are you more excited? 933 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: How are you feeling about Curtis Samuel now that he's 934 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 1: in Washington. I'm definitely more excited. This was actually when 935 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: we did a free agent preview, this is where I said, 936 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 1: I hope he signed because Ron Rivera knows him. I 937 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,240 Speaker 1: thought that it made sense there. But I'm even happy 938 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: with Ryan Fitzpatrick now because, like he said, he is 939 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: just gonna sling it. He'll throw those yolo balls. He 940 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: doesn't care. And also, what I like about Fitzpatrick is 941 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: his offenses historically have been pretty like he gets television. 942 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 1: Remember when he was with the Jets, it was Brandon Marshall, 943 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: Eric Decker when he was back when he was with 944 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: the Bills, it was always Stevie Johnson. With the Dolphins, 945 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: it was always Devonte Parker, Like he gets locked in 946 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: on a player. And actually, are I know friend of 947 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: the show Ian Hard Hard hard hard It's there, we 948 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: got hardens, he tweeted out. Um, and the seasons that 949 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick has made at least ten starts. His number 950 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: one wide receiver is always peppered with targets, which is 951 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: why I love Terry McLaurin. But I also think Curtis 952 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 1: Samuel here as the number two, clear cut, number two target. 953 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: In my opinion, they invested a lot in him. I 954 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: think they will funnel a lot of targets his way, 955 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: and I think he surpasses Logan Thomas as the number 956 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 1: two target in the passing game. I will say that 957 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,320 Speaker 1: I have not heard the name Stevie Johnson in a while, 958 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: and I guess I shouldn't be surprised that a Bills fan, 959 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: I wonder we brought it up on this show. Uh yeah, 960 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 1: I mean I think I think we love what Ryan 961 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,439 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick brings to an offense. Um. You know, he's he's 962 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: that guy that you don't you're not gonna start him 963 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: every week as your quarterback because you just don't really 964 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: want to ride the roller coaster, but you love what 965 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: he means for other for other wide receivers and other 966 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: past catchers in that offense. Because like whatever if if 967 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,399 Speaker 1: I'm not starting him, I don't care if he throws 968 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: four picks as long as he throws it to my guy. Enough, 969 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: Like that's all good. Um. But the downside to this 970 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 1: for me is that it's a one year deal and 971 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 1: why we love what it means for Terry McLaurin and 972 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: for what it means for Curtis Samuel. Um. You know, look, 973 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about a guy who's seven thirty eight years old. Um, 974 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, he's only got a couple more years left 975 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: at best, does Ryan Fitzpatrick if you're thinking long term. 976 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 1: And I know for a lot of folks people are 977 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 1: trying to snap up Terry McLaurin in Dynasty for instance, 978 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: because we all love what his ceiling can be. It 979 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: feels like this is the time to sort of put 980 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,800 Speaker 1: any any attempts to get him. I don't know, do 981 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: you put it on hold or do you do you 982 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 1: make the move and hope for better things down the road, 983 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 1: Because after this year, there's a very good chance that 984 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 1: Washington is out and sort of looking for an the 985 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: quarterback again, which puts mccarein back in that same limbo situation. 986 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: That would worry me if I had him in Dynasty 987 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: or wanted to acquire him in Dynasty, or do you 988 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 1: just dive head first in and say, hey, look man, 989 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna hope that Washington makes a good 990 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: choice here, and I'm gonna try to play the upside 991 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: looking forward. I take that approach more with Curtis Samuel, 992 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: who's a little bit older and I think a little 993 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 1: bit more reliant on a quarterback getting him the ball. Then, 994 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: like a Terry McLaurin who has shown us he could 995 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 1: put up like he put up numbers with Dwayne Haskins, 996 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 1: so I I trust him that he could put up 997 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 1: a numbers with most quarterbacks that aren't named Alex smith Um. 998 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, you just need a quarterback that 999 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: could throw the ball down the field pretty well. And 1000 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: that's what Ryan Fitzpatrick is gonna do. And in Dynasty, 1001 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: my approach is usually like flags fly forever. I try 1002 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: to win this year and not worry about long term. 1003 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: So I'm the kind of manager that would still be 1004 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,720 Speaker 1: very bullishly trying to get a Terry McLaurin or Curtis 1005 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 1: Samuel right now. But it all depends on your team's outlook. Right, Like, 1006 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: if you're not really expected to contend this year and 1007 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 1: you have one of these guys, now, that would be 1008 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: a good time to sell while everyone is super excited 1009 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: about them and their values probably at a tie that 1010 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 1: that makes sense. I I'm totally on board with that. 1011 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 1: I think I think that that's sort of yeah. I just, 1012 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, the first thing I saw like it's a 1013 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 1: one year deal. I don't know what to do really 1014 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: with with Terry McLaurin going forward, but we shall see. 1015 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: So um, okay, So now I got a group of 1016 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,720 Speaker 1: guys that maybe aren't necessarily you know, top tier players, 1017 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 1: but could be impact players who have changed teams. I 1018 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 1: just want to get your thoughts fairly quickly on you know, 1019 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: stock up, stock down, what have you. Gerald Everett, who 1020 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: leaves l A staying in the division, goes up to 1021 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: Seattle to join the Seahawks. Um, lately, Seattle's sort of 1022 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 1: been where veteran tight ends go to die, right, because 1023 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 1: it was like Jimmy Graham and then it was Greg Olsen. 1024 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: Now Gerald Everett, who was significantly younger than those other 1025 00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 1: guys were when they got to Seattle. Uh, stock ups, lockdown, 1026 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,760 Speaker 1: stalk about the same on Gerald Everett, I think slightly 1027 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: up because on the rams he had to compete with 1028 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: Higbee and a lot of other targets. I think at 1029 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: best he'll be the third target in the passing game. 1030 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: But we know Russ likes to throw the tight ends, 1031 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 1: particularly in the red zone. I think he goes from 1032 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,240 Speaker 1: being not really relevant at all in fantasy to joining 1033 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: that blob of like tight end two's that you just 1034 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 1: feel okay about. Are you backing on Tyler Higbee? Now 1035 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: he is in that same Generald everything. For me, I'm 1036 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 1: fine taking him as like an upside tight end too, 1037 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: but that's it. I definitely I like Gerald Everett in 1038 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: in Seattle. I think mostly for the point you mentioned 1039 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: that that Russ loves throwing to the position down near 1040 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 1: the end zone. It's the reason that some of us 1041 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: at some point considered a guy like will dis lee 1042 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: just because he would get those red zone looks. So 1043 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: I do think this is a positive move for Gerald Everett. Gronk, 1044 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: Rob Broadkowsky, he is staying put in Tampa really took 1045 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 1: over midway through the year, uh and then like down 1046 00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: the stretch and then obviously in the Super Bowl was 1047 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 1: was a force. Um I mean, I guess for him 1048 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,720 Speaker 1: it was either come back to the Bucks or retire, 1049 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: So I guess. I don't know. I feel like nothing changes. 1050 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: We're still sort of feeling the same way about Gronk 1051 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: now that we did last year. Um, because the other 1052 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 1: option was at him just not playing, and then he 1053 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 1: was completely off the board. I don't know. I don't 1054 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: know how you feel about that. Yeah, I think it's 1055 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: the same as last year. He'll be inconsistent. Um, he 1056 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,879 Speaker 1: did apparently consider signing with the Bills. I don't really 1057 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: believe him. I don't think he'll ever play Tom Brady. 1058 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 1: The only negative is he's another year older and Brady 1059 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 1: is another year older. And I know, right now it 1060 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 1: looks like Brady is a superhero. But at some point 1061 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,280 Speaker 1: it's got to end, right, Like that's my biggest concerned 1062 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 1: with this box offense. Look, man, it's it's the guy 1063 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 1: with the sandwich board on the corner screaming the world 1064 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: is going to end, like one day he's gonna be right. Um. 1065 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: You know, we keep saying Tom Brady is gonna fall off, 1066 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,800 Speaker 1: Like one day, we're gonna be right unless he just, 1067 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, with another Super Bowl and retires like straight 1068 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 1: after who knows. Um, Corey Davis after his big breakout season, 1069 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 1: goes up to New York. He lands with the Jets. 1070 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: Up down about the same for for Corey Davis, I 1071 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 1: think slightly up. I think the volume will be up 1072 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: for him. He had a twenty target share last year. 1073 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 1: I think he'll have at least that with the Jets 1074 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 1: now after the money they invested him, unless they go 1075 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: out and get another big name wide receiver like they've 1076 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 1: been linked to Juju Um. But as of now, I 1077 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 1: think it's slightly up. The only concern I have Marcus 1078 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 1: and maybe this isn't fair for Corey Davis, but he 1079 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: really struggled before A. J. Brown broke out, So I 1080 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: I concerns. I have concerns if he can be a 1081 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,320 Speaker 1: true number one or is he better as like a 1082 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: really good number two options. I I understand those concerns, right, 1083 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 1: I mean it was it's a combination of struggle before 1084 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: A J. Brown uh and and really you know outside 1085 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 1: of an Arthur Smith offense to what what does he 1086 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: do right? Um? So he goes to New York. The 1087 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,399 Speaker 1: upside obviously is that um, he looks like the number 1088 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 1: one wide receiver right there, So that's a plus that 1089 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: hopefully means more target share for him. We'll also see 1090 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 1: who the quarterback is going to be, if it's still 1091 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, if they make a move and bringing somebody 1092 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,399 Speaker 1: else in, we'll still we'll see about that. So those 1093 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 1: are some big question marks there, but I think at 1094 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: least the immediate response for me is that this is 1095 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 1: positive and that means more opportunity for Corey Davis. Um, 1096 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 1: you know, so we'll see if he can duplicate what 1097 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 1: he did last year in Tennessee. Marvin Jones goes from 1098 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: Detroit to Jacksonville. UM, Steve might not like this, but 1099 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,240 Speaker 1: I think this is a good move for Marvin Jones, 1100 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 1: just because I know we were all sort of worried 1101 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: about what this means playing with Jared Goff, who had 1102 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 1: become a checkdown specialists over the last few years. I'm 1103 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 1: just expecting this Jacksonville offense with Trevor Lawrence to be 1104 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 1: more wide open, to be more vertical, to be more aggressive, 1105 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: and I think that's good for Marvin Jones, sort of 1106 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 1: like what we're hoping to see for Kenny Golladay wherever 1107 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,959 Speaker 1: he potentially lands. But UM, I'm not I'm not saying 1108 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 1: this that I'm gonna draft Marvin Jones. Maybe maybe it's 1109 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: a low and wide receiver to wide receiver three. I 1110 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 1: think it's probably where I feel more comfortable. But I 1111 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 1: do think on the whole this is more of a 1112 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: positive for him than a negative. Yeah, I think for 1113 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 1: real life it is definitely and and it's an improvement 1114 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 1: with him over golf. The only thing I like him 1115 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 1: a little bit less, I think than I did last year, 1116 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 1: just because last year he was the number two, I think, 1117 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: the clear cut number two coming into the year and 1118 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 1: spent most of the season as their number one target. 1119 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be that with Jacksonville. I think 1120 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: DJ Chark is going to be the number one or Schnault. 1121 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: I could see either one of them going over him, 1122 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,479 Speaker 1: But I think Marvin Jones will be with Marvin Jones 1123 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 1: kind of is who'll have a like, you know, five six, 1124 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 1: like really nice games and then a handful of duds 1125 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: and a handful of like ten twelve point games. I 1126 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 1: I anticipate him being kind of similar to what he was. 1127 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,479 Speaker 1: Steve saying that the Lions are on pace for zero 1128 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns this year, which is bad news for all 1129 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: of us who are on the T. J. Hawkinson train. Um, 1130 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 1: so let's you know, if they're gonna catch touchdowns, let's 1131 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,799 Speaker 1: just let it be Hawkinson and uh and it will. 1132 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 1: We'll be okay. Hockinson is pretty much the only option left, 1133 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 1: and that's I mean, uh yeah, you're kind of right. Um, 1134 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 1: they gotta do something about that, right, They're gonna draft 1135 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 1: somebody maybe. I think they got to do something about 1136 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: this after after losing you know, Jones and potentially Goladay, right, 1137 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 1: I mean Anthony Lynn the running back guys. So they 1138 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,919 Speaker 1: got another riding back. So I guess that's the plan. 1139 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 1: But we're derailing your conversation here. Uh yeah, I don't know. 1140 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we all went on like I 1141 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: don't know, quintest cephist this year, Bill Williams. Maybe that 1142 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 1: that idea made me sad. All right, that's got move 1143 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 1: on because I don't want to be sad anymore. Um. 1144 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,280 Speaker 1: John Brown uh leaves Buffalo after having a pretty successful 1145 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 1: year with the Bills, just sort of a cap casualty there, 1146 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: and he comes back toward the West coast. Was in 1147 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,880 Speaker 1: Phoenix once upon a time. Now he stays in the 1148 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 1: desert and goes to Las Vegas with the Raiders. I 1149 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 1: like this signing for the Raider. I like the signing 1150 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 1: for John Brown. Um. We saw last year that Derek 1151 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 1: Carr can throw the deep ball. He did it with 1152 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 1: Nelson Aglore. Now he's got another guy there. I like 1153 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 1: it for for John Brown Florio. Um. It makes me 1154 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,840 Speaker 1: continue to be worried about what Henry Ruggs is going 1155 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 1: to be in this offense unless they bring in Brown 1156 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,440 Speaker 1: to sort of be a tutor. But I think I 1157 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,719 Speaker 1: think Brown has some nice value there. I still think 1158 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs maybe is a wait and see for me. Yeah, 1159 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 1: I agree. I think Brown could be this year's Nelson Aguilor. 1160 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 1: And I think for him it's easily stuck up because 1161 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 1: on the Bills like he was behind Digs, he was 1162 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,479 Speaker 1: behind Cole Beasley, and he might have even been behind 1163 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 1: Gabriel Davison because they like him a lot. So I 1164 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 1: think here he has an opportunity to potentially be their 1165 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 1: number one wide receiver, not number one target because Darren 1166 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,439 Speaker 1: Waller we know is going that, but potentially their number 1167 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 1: one wide receiver. I think it'll be a camp battle 1168 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,879 Speaker 1: between him and Henry Ruggs to be the number one, 1169 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: but he can't feel great about Henry Ruggs after last season. 1170 00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,080 Speaker 1: Cannot um like again he was supposed to be the 1171 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 1: field stretcher, that speed guy to take the top off 1172 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 1: the defense, and that turned out to be Nelson Aghalore. 1173 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 1: So now they're bringing in another veteran guy who we 1174 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,879 Speaker 1: know can actually be uh, that field stretcher. We didn't 1175 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 1: know that necessarily about a Galore. We know that about 1176 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 1: John Brown, so that that's going to be an interesting 1177 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 1: camp competition between the two of them. Um. Jamal Williams 1178 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 1: leaves Green Bay, stays in the division, goes to Detroit. Um, 1179 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: I mean I asked you about you know, how how 1180 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: you're feeling about Jonathan Taylor after the Marlon Max signing. 1181 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: How are you feeling about DeAndre Swift after the Jamal 1182 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 1: Williams signing? Not nearly as great as I was before it. 1183 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 1: And Jamal Williams of all the running back signings so far, 1184 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 1: I think he is the one that hurts the incumbent 1185 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 1: the most. Like he's not Carlos Hyde or even Marlon 1186 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 1: Mack Like, he is a much better running back than 1187 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 1: those guys. In my opinion. First of all, he's healthy. 1188 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 1: Second of all, he's shown us that he can get 1189 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 1: it done on the ground and in the passing game. 1190 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 1: And that is what worries me because Green Bay has 1191 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 1: raided so much about out how good he is in 1192 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 1: pass blocking and and we they repeatedly would take Aaron 1193 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 1: Jones off the field for him. I am very fearful 1194 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 1: that that could become DeAndre Swift. Like, I think DeAndre 1195 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 1: Swift is still going to be the starter. He's still 1196 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 1: going to be the first running back you want to 1197 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: draft here. But if they're pulling him off the field 1198 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 1: at times to get Jamal Williams on third down or 1199 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 1: something like that, that is going to hurt DeAndre Swift. 1200 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 1: So for me, he was someone that I had easily 1201 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 1: as being like an RB one heading into he might 1202 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 1: fall out of that and be on that Now. I 1203 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 1: think he's very much still on that border. Like is 1204 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: he low and RB one or more of a high 1205 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 1: end RB two? Yeah. I just the move the Lions 1206 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 1: have made this offseason have not done DeAndre Swift any favors. 1207 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 1: Um you know, going to Jared goff uh, you know, 1208 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 1: now bringing in Jamal Williams. It's like they just have 1209 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 1: not done DeAndre Swift any favors. Uh. Like we said 1210 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 1: just a moment ago, they need to get some pass 1211 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 1: catchers just so that, you know, if I'm a defense 1212 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 1: right now, I'm just like, well, let's just you know, 1213 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 1: let's stop DeAndre Swift on the let's stop the running game. 1214 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: Let's force Jared Goff to try to beat us downfield. 1215 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 1: I mean, at this very moment, Uh, the Lions are 1216 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 1: very easy to defend. Um. You know, maybe Dan Campbell 1217 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 1: and his knee biting strategy is going to pay off here. 1218 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, but right now, just on on paper, 1219 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,439 Speaker 1: it doesn't look particularly great for for the Lions running 1220 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 1: backs at the moment um. Last one I got on 1221 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 1: my list here Emmanuel Sanders, who was let go by 1222 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 1: the Saints and goes up to Buffalo, so he joined 1223 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 1: your bills. Um, you talked about John Brown sort of 1224 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 1: being down the pecking order. I would imagine does that 1225 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 1: apply to Emmanuel Sanders as well? Were talking about a 1226 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 1: guy who's what thirty three thirty four years old? Um, 1227 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 1: you know, a nice I think he's a nice real 1228 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 1: football piece, not necessarily a great fantasy piece. And I 1229 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 1: would think he's really gonna have to fight to get 1230 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 1: consistent targets in this office. That is my my thinking. 1231 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 1: Like I think he is a better real life signing. 1232 00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 1: He could be a veteran leader and he's they always 1233 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 1: about his toughness and stuff. But for fantasy I don't 1234 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 1: really As of right now, he would be the fourth 1235 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver from the Bills I would put in for 1236 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 1: fantasy rankings like I'd have Gabe David's ahead of him. 1237 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 1: I would have Cole Beasley ahead of him, and obviously 1238 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Stefon Digg. So I think it helps more for the 1239 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 1: receivers and Josh Allen in real life than anything, but 1240 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 1: not a whole lot of fantasy interests. So yeah, right, uh, alright, 1241 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 1: I think we got through it. I think that's it. Um. 1242 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 1: So we did this whole show and we got no 1243 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 1: news about Kenny Golladay or Juju Smith, Schuster, Chris Carson, 1244 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 1: anybody like that, which guarantees that the moment we sign off, 1245 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 1: at least one or more of those players is going 1246 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 1: to sign. But for now, uh, that is our whole 1247 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 1: look at free agency. A couple of reminders, we will 1248 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 1: have the NFL Fantasy Live Free Agency Frenzy. That's going 1249 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 1: to be next week. Um, it actually airs I believe 1250 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:56,360 Speaker 1: on Thursday. So a week from today, I believe, is 1251 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: when that's going to hit your your television screens, like 1252 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 1: I always say, check your local list in cent DVR 1253 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 1: uh and it should appear at some point uh in 1254 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: the next week or so. And the Big Data Bowl 1255 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 1: if you if you didn't get a chance to catch 1256 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 1: it streaming live, you can find it NFL dot com 1257 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: slash Big Data Bowl. You can also go find it 1258 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 1: on YouTube as well, so you have plenty to do there. 1259 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 1: So I mean, Florida, like something big is gonna happened, right, 1260 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: I think. But the time between now and the time 1261 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 1: we talk again next Tuesday, hopefully we've got some more 1262 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 1: wide receiver stuff to talk about, because I can't imagine 1263 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: that some of these big names are gonna sit out 1264 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,680 Speaker 1: there too much longer. Yeah, I I imagine, Like I 1265 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,439 Speaker 1: keep thinking it's gonna be a domino effect, like once 1266 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,600 Speaker 1: one signs, we're gonna see a whole bunch start. And 1267 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 1: I thought Curtis Samuel was kind of gonna start that 1268 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 1: and that didn't. So let's hope that like Falonda or 1269 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 1: Juju sign and that gets it going because we have 1270 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 1: a lot of fun with these water series that they're 1271 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,920 Speaker 1: gonna end up some places. Yeah, I mean those are 1272 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 1: the those are the marquee names for this free agency, 1273 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 1: and so far they are still out there on the board. 1274 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 1: So we'll definitely keep a close eye on that, and 1275 01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,920 Speaker 1: you know, we'll keep you updated when we know more 1276 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 1: all about it. Oh wait, last minute, this just happened. 1277 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 1: Just as we were getting ready to shut this down. 1278 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 1: The Raiders have signed Kenyan Drake to a two year deal. 1279 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 1: We were hoping to see Kenyan Drake go somewhere where 1280 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 1: he could get some more opportunities. UM, I don't know. 1281 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 1: My immediate reaction is that this is bad for everybody involved. 1282 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 1: It's not great for Kenyan Drake. It's really not great 1283 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: for Josh Jacobs, who already doesn't catch the football. Now 1284 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 1: there's even less reason to throw him the ball because 1285 01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake is there. UM. My immediate reaction is like 1286 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,640 Speaker 1: thumbs down. I don't like this for anybody. I mean 1287 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 1: maybe for the Raiders, but I don't like this for 1288 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 1: the players involved. How are you feeling not great? I 1289 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 1: have the same reaction as you, like Kenyan Drake goes 1290 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 1: from being a first round pick last year, Marcus too 1291 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 1: maybe a ninth or tenth round pick this year. And 1292 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 1: then Josh Jacobs, who was someone that I've been lower 1293 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 1: on than than a lot of others, and like I 1294 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 1: am my early rankings, he was not in RB one 1295 01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 1: for me, and people were like, Oh, where's John Jacobs. 1296 01:02:59,960 --> 01:03:01,960 Speaker 1: There's no way he is an RB one now anymore 1297 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 1: in my opinion, Like I think he's firmly in RB two. 1298 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 1: You're gonna hear people say talent all you want. They 1299 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 1: invested two years eleven million dollars that can go up 1300 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 1: to fourteen and a half million on Kenyan Drake. That 1301 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 1: is not a small investment at all. Like this really 1302 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 1: hurts Josh Jacobs and maybe even knocks him into third 1303 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 1: or fourth round territory. I I mean, I did a 1304 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,919 Speaker 1: quick dive earlier. And John Gryden generally does not throw 1305 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: the football to running backs a whole lot. Michael Pittman 1306 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 1: was sort of the exception of that rule. Kenyan Drake 1307 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 1: might sort of be the next closest option to that um. 1308 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 1: But either way, it means that all the targets we 1309 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 1: were hoping eventually would go to Josh Jacobs. Are just 1310 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 1: never going to go to Josh Jacobs. And now on 1311 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,080 Speaker 1: top of it, drinks the guy who can run the 1312 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 1: football as well and say Jacobs off the field. This 1313 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 1: does not work. Their whole offensive line is gone now too, 1314 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 1: like they had. It's basically completely revamped. Like it's hard 1315 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 1: to feel good about the run game there not not 1316 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 1: excited at all about that. So that is it's we 1317 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 1: are done. We appreciate you're hanging out with the NFL 1318 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 1: Fantasy football show. You know the drill. Tell two friends 1319 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 1: to tell two friends rate review and remember you're never 1320 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,480 Speaker 1: too old to learn something stupid. He's safe, take care 1321 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 1: of yourselves, wear a mask, and we will see you 1322 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:31,560 Speaker 1: next week. Wow, won Won, I'm coming. I'm count co