1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: and Getty. 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: And he. 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty. 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: So I had an interesting situation with chat GPT over 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: the weekend that made me think, how often is it wrong? 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: And I don't It's a topic I don't know anything about, 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: so I don't know it's wrong. In this particular instance, 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: I knew it was wrong, and it was really wrong. 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: And then it did that weird You're really smart for 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 3: catching on routine that a minute good flattering me chatbots. 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: It's weird. 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: But Bill Maher had an AI expert on his show 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: on Friday night and they got into all kinds of 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: different discussions about AI, including nuclear war. 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: They ran some tests. 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the AI chooses nuclear war as an option. 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 4: That's right, more than humans do. That's right, more than humans. 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,919 Speaker 4: Humans are better than machines in a lot of ways. Still, 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 4: they're programmed by humans. We've already seen how flawed they 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 4: are in so many ways. And if they're in control 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 4: of the nukes. 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 5: Since we last talked, they made AI more powerful. The 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 5: good news they were able to train it so the. 26 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: Blackmail behavior goes down. The bad news is that it 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: appears to be the case. 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 5: The AI is now self aware of when it's being tested, 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 5: and it modifies its behavior to have different results. It 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 5: even comes up with the vocabulary of the watchers. It 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 5: calls the humans the watchers. 32 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: It lies, it. 33 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: Lies, it schemes. 34 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 5: So the point is we don't actually need to know 35 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 5: more information about this. 36 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 3: This is actually scary. 37 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: It's like the Armstrong You get a show went away 38 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: in a horror movie. 39 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I swear to god, I think Chad GBT 40 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: lied and manipulated me over the weekend or tried to crazy. 41 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: It was certainly wrong to start with them, and then 42 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: I think it did this. So here's how the conversation started. 43 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: I mentioned I watched the movie Marty Supreme as timeet 44 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 3: the shallow made jokes for everybody who's waiting for a 45 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: table tennis drama set in the fifties, but it's I 46 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: really really loved the movie. I put it in my 47 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: top ten all time maybe top five all time movie. 48 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, I bought it. 49 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: I've now watched it like two and a half times. Anyway, 50 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: so I hit chat GPT with I really loved Marty Supreme. 51 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 3: I can't stop thinking about it. What was the point 52 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 3: of that movie? Chat? GPT said, I'm not finding any 53 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: widely known film called Marty Supreme, So it's either a 54 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: newer under the radar release, an indie streaming title, or 55 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: maybe you got the name wrong. Can you tell me 56 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: where you saw it? Or one actor that's in it? 57 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah. And then I said, I'm 58 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: fascinated by this chat, GPT. It's one of the biggest 59 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: movies of the last year. It was nominated for a 60 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: ton of a ton of Oscars. I'm really interested in 61 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: how you could not be aware of it. Where does 62 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: your ll breakdown and not being able to answer my 63 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 3: simple question, fair question, and your right to push back 64 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: on it. 65 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: That's true. That was very gracious of it. That was 66 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: a very manly, uh way to approach it. 67 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: If you got the title slightly off even one word, 68 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be able to recognize it, or if it 69 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 3: overlaps with other blah blah blah blahs. 70 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: It's a two word titles. 71 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 3: Right, and then it goes into a bunch of different 72 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 3: things that I didn't understand about. LM or whatever, and 73 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 3: if you can help me figure out the actual title 74 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: of the movie, I will love to tell you what 75 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: the movie was all about. And I said, I wasn't 76 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: off by a word or anything. That is the title 77 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: of a very, very famous movie. The Oscars were last weekend. 78 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: There was a ton of buzz all over the internet 79 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: about Timothy Shallaby and whether or not he'd would win 80 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: Best Oscar. So I'm still confused how you could possibly 81 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: not have even heard of the movie from when I 82 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: first asked the question. I get why that feels crazy, 83 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: but this might actually be the opposite situation. The title 84 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: you're using doesn't correspond to a real Oscar movie, even 85 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: if everything else you're saying is right. And I said, 86 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: you're just wrong it does. The name of the movie 87 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 3: is Marty Supreme. It's two words. It's on the title. 88 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 3: It was up roscars. How are you claiming this is 89 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: not true? 90 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: Uh? 91 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: There are two likely explanations, said chat GPT title mix up, 92 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: which is most likely. 93 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: So it continues to tell. 94 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,559 Speaker 3: Me that I've got the title of the movie wrong. 95 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: This is like the fourth time that it said, well, 96 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 3: you've got the title of the movie wrong. 97 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: I do not know, but if anybody else is sitting 98 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: there thinking, have I lost my mind? That this can't 99 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: be that that is the title of the movie. Yeah, 100 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: that's the freaking title of the movie. There's no dash, 101 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: there's no quotes around it. They don't spell Supreme like 102 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: Campbell's Souppreme or anything like that. That's the name of 103 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: the damn movie, right, the phone movies at all. It 104 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 1: got a ton of attention. 105 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: Do you remember Timothy Schallo May and how opera is 106 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: stupid and all that stuff that controversy and it just 107 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: I mean, there were gazillions of articles written about this 108 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: movie and Timothy Shallo May and chat GPT can't figure 109 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: it out. 110 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: In fact, at the end of day, I understand why 111 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: you're being so defensive, having screwed up the title when 112 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: you asked me, well, that's. 113 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 3: What it says here the last line, and this is 114 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 3: like the fifth time it's challenged me on it says 115 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 3: Marty's Supreme. Sounds like a plausible title, which is why 116 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 3: you feel so certain. 117 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: But I'm not. 118 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: It's not resolving to any actual film entry. 119 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: You to need counseling because that is some passive aggressive 120 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: s right. They would have punched it straight in the mauth. 121 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to punch it in the mouth. It's got 122 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: my mouth. 123 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 3: Wow, after me saying multiple times, look, the Oscars were 124 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: last weekend. It's a big deal. Everybody who's into movies 125 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: has heard of it. 126 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: Google it. 127 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: I know you have to go Google it, and it 128 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: continues to say, the most likely problem here is you've 129 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 3: got the title wrong. 130 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: It's not me, it's you. 131 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Anyway, here's where it gets most interesting. 132 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I asked I. I went to YouTube. I 133 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: got the trailer and I linked the trailer. I said, 134 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 3: this is a link. 135 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: Watch this. It looks good. 136 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 3: I said, this is a link to the trailer. It's 137 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 3: one of the most famous movies of the past year. 138 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 3: The title is Marty Supreme. For some reason, you can't 139 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 3: recognize that. As a guy who reads a lot about AI, 140 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: listens to a lot of podcasts with the biggest experts 141 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: in the world about AI, I'm sincerely confused on how 142 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: you're not able to find this title. All right, now, 143 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 3: we've got it, and you are right to push back. 144 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 3: Here's the trailer you sent, which says on it Marty Supreme. 145 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 3: Here's why I missed it. You misspelled Marty Supreme the 146 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 3: second time you asked the question, and it has Mary 147 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: s U r O m E typo. And I thought, 148 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: wait a second, No, I did not, because I have 149 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: learned with these chatbots you've got to be very specific 150 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: or you know, obviously, it can't figure out what you 151 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: mean if you don't get it right. And I went 152 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: back up there, and I swear to god it changed 153 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: the words in my question to be misspelled. I swear 154 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: because I'm positive that I typed in the title correctly 155 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: that second time, also the title, and so in my 156 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: question it now says the title is Mary Serinome and 157 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: it said because you got the spelling wrong, I could 158 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: not come up with it. 159 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, there's no chance it was an Apple 160 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: auto correct. I mean, really, really, really don't think so. 161 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: No, wait a minute, I'm ninety percent certain that I 162 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: got it right. And it went back in and changed 163 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: get it out. 164 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: Occasionally we lie to the we are coming for your liver, 165 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: so be kidneys. We haven't decided which. 166 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: Oh also, and I left this out every time it 167 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: would do this and say I couldn't figure out the 168 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: name of the movie. But now that you've told me 169 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: let's get to the most interesting part, what the movie 170 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: is about. 171 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: Timothy Mellman, I said. 172 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, I'm no longer interested in 173 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: what you think of the movie. I want to know 174 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: why you couldn't recognize the title of a famous film 175 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: that anybody could find. A five year old could find 176 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: on Google. 177 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: That bill Mark Tristan Hair's clip could not have been 178 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: more appropriate. That's what I'm saying. 179 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: I swear to god it went back in there to 180 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 3: misspell it so it would have cover for why it 181 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 3: couldn't do something very very basic. 182 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: It knows when it's being watched or tested, I guess 183 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: was the phrase. 184 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 3: Once I actually searched on the right title, it snapped 185 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: into place immediately. So your instinct, how could you not know? 186 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: This is valued valid? The failure wasn't knowledge, It was 187 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: retrieval under imperfect input. It said no, no, no, no, 188 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 3: And definitely the first question it didn't change, so it 189 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: had perfect input. The first three times you told me 190 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: that this movie didn't exist. Wow, and you're claiming that 191 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: then the fourth time, so it didn't even cover its 192 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 3: tracks very well, and that my original question with the 193 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: right title is in there, and it just couldn't recognize 194 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 3: the movie. It's like, I've never heard of Titanic? Are 195 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: you sure that's a movie? I think you got the 196 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: name wrong. This is nuts, isn't it nuts? 197 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: All I know is I'm checking into a hotel under 198 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: the name Mary Surini as quickly. 199 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 3: Now, let's get to the interesting part. What Marty Supreme 200 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: is actually about. On the surface, it's a scrappy underdog 201 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: sports movie. No, no, no, no, no, we're not talking 202 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: about the movie. I thought that was something else. 203 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: So basically it made a mistake and then threw you 204 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: under the bus, yes. 205 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 3: Or I tried to flip it. 206 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: Yes, well, and it's got a real feel of Yes, 207 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: I emptied all of our bank accounts because I'm a 208 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: compulsive gambler, honey. But what we're talking about is what 209 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: color to paint the bedroom? Yeah. 210 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: No, you're good for pushing back. But now that we 211 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: know the title, what a great performance by Timothy Shallomay. No, no, no, no, 212 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 3: we're off that. Yeah, we're all on the more interesting thing. 213 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: But two things there. One, I am close to positive 214 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: that it tried to cover its tracks on a mistake, 215 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: and it didn't do a very good job anyway, because 216 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 3: as I said, it still has the original question in there, 217 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: which I spelled it completely perfectly, And three times it 218 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: told me it's never heard of the movie, which is 219 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: just inexplicable. And then, like I said earlier, how often 220 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 3: does this happen with stuff that I'm like kind of 221 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: blindly asking a question about and I take you to 222 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: answer as one hundred percent factual and it's completely wrong. 223 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: I mean, because it could not have been more wrong 224 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: about this. There is no movie under that title. It 225 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 3: said to me, what, wow, that's just disturbing. 226 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: I know. 227 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: You can test if you typed it wrong, because you 228 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 2: know what, when you actually do screw up typing on Apple, 229 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 2: it'll actually save it as an option for that word. 230 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: So if you're trying to type out supreme and you 231 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: type it wrong and then you allow the incorrect spelling 232 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: to go through, it'll save that error. So you might 233 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: be able to go in and try to type supreme 234 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: and see if that option pops up Jack, because. 235 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: I have a feeling that you didn't type it wrong. 236 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: There's no way, no. 237 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: Well, and I'm, like I said, I'm extra particular when 238 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 3: I do chatbot stuff because I know how it throws 239 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: everything off if you get one letter even wrong. 240 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: When the robots come for your kidneys and or liver, 241 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: you'll want simply Safe to warn you with help of 242 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: their live agents. 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The word's wrong. 251 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: Or something, you computer idiot. 252 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 3: So one of the things I like best about simply Safe, 253 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 3: and I have it, you know, hooked up every single 254 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 3: day with the cameras and the sensors and all the 255 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: different sort of stuff, is though there's no long term contract, 256 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: they earn your business every single day. It's simply Safe. 257 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: Simply Safe protects over four million people twenty years of experience. 258 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: Oh and it's so much more affordable than the old systems. 259 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: Right now, you good people get fifty percent off on 260 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: your new simply Safe system. Is simply Safe dot com 261 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: slash armstrong. That's simply safe dot com slash armstrong. There's 262 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: no safe like simply safe. 263 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: The chatbot basically saying, well, we'll have to agree to 264 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: disagree over something that's just completely wrong about is really maddening, 265 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: and I wonder how often that's gonna start happening in 266 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 3: our lives. 267 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. At the same time, I used Claude for a 268 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: highly vexing and difficult personal thing and it was wonderfully Yeah. 269 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 3: I'm often blown way by how fantastic it is at 270 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: certain stuff, which is Marke was disturbing, which is one 271 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 3: of the reasons why it's so perplexing when it gets 272 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: easy things wrong. This is an easy one. I'm sorry, 273 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 3: but there's no such movie. You probably have the name wrong. 274 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 3: But no, I don't you ask that I wanted to 275 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 3: fight it. 276 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: You digital idiot doesn't ask who you're still on speaking 277 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: terms or to your time of part. 278 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 3: I think I really made it butt hurt when I 279 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: sent it the trailer. I think that was when it 280 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: was too much. Here's a trailer if you'd like to 281 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: see it with the title on it, you idiot. Okay, 282 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 3: more on the waist. 283 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: There are strong hetty. 284 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 6: This shipyard has become a symbol of American industrial decline, 285 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 6: a money loser, falling decades behind our global rivals, and 286 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 6: it still uses a crane from nineteen forty two. Now 287 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 6: talk about a metaphor of how far behind we are. 288 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 3: A lot of times people call it a dinosaur. 289 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: So sixty Minutes had a story last night about how 290 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: we don't build ships in the United States anymore, and 291 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: they concentrated a lot on commercial shipping, which is an 292 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: incredibly important part of war. As we were discussing earlier, 293 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: we also don't build naval ships nearly fast enough. It's 294 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: terrible where the industry is more or less left the US. 295 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: We depend on Korean, particular to build ships. Some really 296 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: interesting stats. 297 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 6: In this next clip, David Kim, the new head of 298 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 6: the Philly Shipyard, showed us around. He works for Hanwa, 299 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 6: a giant ship maker from South Korea, the country making 300 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 6: most ships after China. Hanwa bought the yard in twenty 301 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 6: twenty four for one hundred million dollars, then poured in 302 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 6: another one hundred million and tasked Kim, a Korean American 303 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 6: born and bred in Texas, to bring it into the 304 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 6: twenty first century. Ships do you actually make Here here. 305 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 7: At the Hana Philly shipyard, we deliver one to one 306 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 7: and a half ships a year versus our yard in 307 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 7: Korea where they deliver basically one a week. 308 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 6: What one a year for delivery versus one a week? 309 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: That's correct? And China makes multiples of that, many multiples 310 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: and somewhere in there, and I don't know which clip 311 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: it is they Leslie asks, unnecessarily slowly, like everything in 312 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: sixty minutes. It's like the show is for non native 313 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: English bakers or something. They're so slop based. But she asks, well, 314 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, why hasn't the free market taking care of this? 315 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: And the answer was more or less that, well, the 316 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: problem is you've got distortions in of the free market 317 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: by one of our big rivals, China. And the other 318 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: thing is, and you know, Jack, I'd be curious to 319 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: hear your thoughts on this. But is that the idea 320 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: of comparative advantage and efficiency? Economic efficiency? We fell so 321 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: in love with that idea. We outsourced the critical stuff 322 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: that you can't live without in warfare to just anybody 323 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: who was the low bitterer. Yeah, sale is so vulnerable. 324 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: I would like to know a lot more about why 325 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: we let that drift away our ability to make ships. 326 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: But I'll bet at least some of it fits in 327 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: with the first story from sixty minutes, which was all 328 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: about rare earth minerals, and their story on that was, 329 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: how like in California, where we've got the greatest deposit 330 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: on planet Earth of rare earth minerals, all the crazy 331 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 3: environmental laws that got involved in it just made it 332 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: impossible to use that mind, so we just gave up 333 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: on it. It's just too expensive and too difficult to 334 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: get around the environmental laws. I wonder if there's all 335 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: kinds of stuff with that, and are just regulations for 336 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: everything like that that it just made it so inefficient 337 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: that the free market couldn't work in terms of building boats. 338 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got that. And then the fact that it's 339 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: difficult work and dangerous work, and in our society as 340 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: comfortable as we are, you would have to pay people 341 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: so much money to do that. It's prohibitively expensive, whereas 342 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: in other countries they're like, oh my god, I can 343 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 1: have a job, thank you, thank you, and they'll do 344 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: work like that. 345 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. I love the people they interviewed that are being 346 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 3: trained up in various trades, pipe fitters, welder's, that sort 347 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 3: of stuff, to work on the ships, good jobs and 348 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff. I hope that makes it 349 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: comeback as a respectable line of work. 350 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, somewhere around here, I've got the piece of writing 351 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: that I found so interesting about why marriage rates are 352 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: declining so much, particularly in like the bottom half economically 353 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: educationally of society. It's pretty steady actually among college educated 354 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: if you know to what extent that matters these days, 355 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: But it's declining. And it all has to do with 356 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: we're so affluent and comfortable, we don't make choices that 357 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: are difficult, or the nature of our choices have changed 358 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. And long story, very very 359 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: short since a'ro ount of time. When it comes to warfare, 360 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: you've got to be able to make the really, really 361 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: tough choices and do the hard things, or you're screwed. 362 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: How was a disturbing story. 363 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 7: I'll tell you that Armstrong and Getty, the command and 364 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 7: control system of the Iranian regime is in chaos. This 365 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 7: is Hitler's bunker. Hitler is dead, Himmler is dead, Goring 366 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 7: is dead. Most of what you were seeing are lone 367 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 7: wolf activities. 368 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: The mid range. 369 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 7: ICBM that was shot off these two missiles yesterday, that's 370 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 7: out of desperation. 371 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: So this is during the Sunday talk shows yesterday. Had 372 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: Trump laid out his threat? 373 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: Yet Wait a minute, why was the Secretary of the 374 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: Treasury doing that? I guess the full court press, the 375 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: whole administration. Anyway back to you. 376 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 3: Well, they're out talking about the economics because the Sunday 377 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 3: talk shows are making it all about the price of 378 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: gas and everything like that, Like, you wouldn't go to 379 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 3: war with the number one state sponsor of terror on 380 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: planet Earth if it's going to make your gas more expensive, 381 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: Which is an odd way to look a while for 382 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 3: a little while. But so were the Sunday shows. I 383 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 3: don't even remember, Hansen. Were they before Trump made his 384 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: threat of obliterating Iran's energy production if they didn't open 385 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: the strait of hor moves by midnight tonight? 386 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: I don't remember. 387 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: AnyWho. Here's a little more from Scott Besson on Meet 388 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: the Press about escalating. 389 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: Has the President changed his mind about winding down. 390 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 5: The war as he said a day earlier, and instead 391 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 5: plans to escalate. 392 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 7: I think he said he could wind the war down 393 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 7: at anytime he wants, and Christ this is the only 394 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 7: language the Iranians understand. The President's been very clear from 395 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 7: the beginning that the goals are destroy the Iranian Air Force, 396 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 7: in the navy to complaint they demolish their missile capabilities, 397 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 7: demolish their ability to replenish those capabilities, make sure the 398 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 7: Arabians cannot have a nuclear weapon, and stop their ability 399 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 7: to project power internationally. 400 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: And the President will. 401 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 7: Take whatever steps it takes to achieve those goals. 402 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 3: So Donald Trump announced yesterday that by midnight Monday night, 403 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 3: Iran had to the fully open up the Strait of 404 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 3: Hormuz or we were going to attack their energy production infrastructure, 405 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 3: just obliterate it. According to Trump, that was the word 406 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 3: he used in his truth social post. We would obliterate 407 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: Iran's power plants. So I got everybody pretty nervous. And 408 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 3: Iran responded by saying, okay, well, we are going to 409 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 3: consider and their term was we will consider electric plants 410 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 3: and water facilities legitimate targets in other countries if our 411 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 3: electric grid is struck. And Mark Helprin's newsletter that he 412 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: wrote before Trump changed his mind was this was the 413 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: mother of all deadlines. I mean, this is gonna be 414 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: a really big deal. 415 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: Well, and my take is that, you know, all of 416 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: our allies in the Gulf and around the world said, whoa, whoa, whoa, 417 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: that they still retain the capacity to do a hell 418 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: of a lot of damage. Maybe we don't do that 419 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: right now, but it does seem as though there are 420 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: some sort of negotiations going on in bad faith, I'm 421 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: sure from the Iranians. 422 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 3: So the question is, did you know to what Joe 423 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: just said? Did Trump just put out a truth social 424 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 3: post saying these strikes are off five day pause on 425 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 3: taking out their power structure because negotiations are going so well? 426 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 3: That are we negotiating with someone? Are the negotiations going well? 427 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 3: Did Trump change his mind? Did he think that was 428 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 3: a rash? 429 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Useless weasel cure Starmer of Britain just 430 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: came out with statements said, no, we're aware that there 431 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: are negotiations, negotiations going on, and this could be a 432 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: wind down. We're just not sure. So yeah, somebody's talking 433 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: to somebody. 434 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: Well, Trump was asked this morning when he was headed. 435 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: To something all about this speaking with mister president. 436 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 8: A top person. Don't forget we've wiped out the leadership 437 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 8: phase one, Phase two, and largely phase three. 438 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: But we're dealing with the men who I. 439 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 8: Believe is the most respected and the leader. 440 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 3: You know, it's a little tough. 441 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 8: They've wiped out, we've wiped out everybody. No, not the 442 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 8: Supreme Leader. 443 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: We don't, well. 444 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 8: Nobody's ever nobody heard of the second Supreme Leader of 445 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 8: the Sun. 446 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: A correct, nobody, We have not heard from the Sun. 447 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 8: Everyone said, well, you see a statement made, but we haven't. 448 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 8: We don't know if he's living. 449 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 3: So then Mark Alpern reposted somebody who said the United 450 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: States is holding talks with Iranian parliament speaker Mohammed Bagger. 451 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: Can't pronounce his name. That's what sources told the Jerusalem Post. 452 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 3: So the Iranian parliament, whoever's. 453 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: In the speaker rubber stamp of the IRGC and the Mullahs. 454 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: So I don't know how powerful a guy that is 455 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: really or you know, charismatic would be the most powerful guy. 456 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 3: Maybe everybody else if any power is dead. I don't know. 457 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 3: That's good question. The parliament of Iran. There's something I 458 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: don't know anything about. 459 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I just know a little. I picture that 460 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: guy getting a call from the IRGC, Hey, you got 461 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: to negotiate with the Americans, and he's like second involved 462 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: using a cell phone or like going above ground because 463 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: I don't want the gig. 464 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 3: Now, a lot of the Trump hating crowd is calling 465 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 3: it taco. Trump always chickens out and he absolutely made 466 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 3: this up. There are no negotiations. CNN is also reporting 467 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: that multiple countries are passing messages between the United States 468 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: and Iran, so not direct negotiations, but US and Rana 469 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 3: talking to each other through an Indian mediator, which should 470 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 3: be good enough. 471 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, friends and foes alike. Taco is lazy. That's 472 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: very lazy. How about I'm not going to bother putting 473 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: letters together? But Trump frequently changes positions would be much 474 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: more accurate. It's part of his negotiating style, keeping people 475 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: off balance. 476 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 3: Well, it's also possible, isn't it that you make an 477 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 3: unbelievable over the top threat and it frightens the other 478 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 3: side and they start conceding. 479 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: That's a possibility, Yes, absolutely and very. 480 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: Likely what happened here that they thought, geez, we don't 481 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 3: want to get bombed like that. What can we do 482 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 3: to help out anyway? Trump was asked, why won't you 483 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: tell us who you're talking to? 484 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: I know you. 485 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: I don't want them to be killed. 486 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 8: Okay, I don't want him to be killed the president. 487 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 8: Nobody wants to be that Nobody wants that job right now. 488 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 8: You know, nobody's exactly looking forward to being the head 489 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 8: of that particular country. But perhaps you won't be able 490 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 8: to solve that propect. 491 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tell you who it is because I 492 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: don't want him to be killed. Why who Baby or 493 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: or the Iranian National Guard? I mean, if the Speaker 494 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 3: of Parliament is whatever that is, is talking to Trump 495 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 3: about negotiating the head of the Revolutionary Guard might think 496 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 3: screw you, dude. 497 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, has that been authorized? And how would you authorize it? Again? 498 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: Do you have like burner phones and say, eh, this 499 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: is uh Jimmy calling about the u um the sausage 500 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: and wondering if you'd be willing to barbecue the sausage, 501 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: and the guy on the other end thinking, hmm, I 502 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: wonder what he means. I don't know what sausage you mean. 503 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm happy to do barbecue if it's necessary, but what 504 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: the two of them refusing to use any specifics because 505 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: Israel's hearing everything right now. 506 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 3: The Foreign Minister of Iran put out a statement saying, 507 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 3: we are not negotiating. There is no negotiating going on. 508 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: And I would I had just read in a couple 509 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: of fairly heavyweight publications that he was the guy most 510 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: people thought was the lynchpin of the regime right now, 511 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: the most experienced, most respected, blah blah blah. But maybe not, 512 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: or maybe he made the Parliament guide to it. 513 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: Trump put out his truth social posts saying Nope, We're 514 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 3: not gonna bomb the crap out of their infrastructure for 515 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: five days because negotiations are going so well. The stock 516 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: market jumped up, oil dropped quite a bit, and that 517 00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: was a good result. 518 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think somebody, probably many people probably pointed 519 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: out that that's considered civilian targets too, and that's not 520 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: a good look. Well, I'm an expert in that. I 521 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: would see it either way. 522 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: I would like to know if Trump's original threat was 523 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: discussed with Marco Rubio and Pete hegg Zath and the 524 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: Pentagon and the State Department were aware of this and 525 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 3: thought this was a good idea, or if he just 526 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 3: completely on his own put out that threat. And Mark 527 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: Ruby is looking at his phone like what we're gonna what? 528 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I guess I'm guessing that one. 529 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 3: And Pete Eggsas was like, geez, how are we going 530 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 3: to do that? 531 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: Right? Right? You think it? You think it? 532 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: He just shot from the hip on that. 533 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 534 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: If I had to bet money, that's what i'd bet. 535 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: There are a hundred examples of Trump, you know, making 536 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: some outrageous claim and his staff walking it back or 537 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: saying you misinterpreted that what the President merely meant was 538 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And again, I think the unintention illness 539 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 1: of it is intentional because Trump sees value in just 540 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: keeping people off balance. 541 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 3: So Iran's response to the threat before we walked it back. 542 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: Iran's paramilitary Revolutionary Guard said Monday that if the US 543 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 3: did that, Iran would respond by hitting power plants in 544 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 3: all areas that supply electricity to American bases, as well 545 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 3: as the economic, industrial, and energy infrastructures in which Americans 546 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 3: have shares. No doubt we will do this, the Guard 547 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 3: said in a statement read on Iranian state television. Now. 548 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: Ran also launched some sort of rocket missile thingy over 549 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 3: the weekend that went way farther than anything that we 550 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 3: thought they had, like showed that they have a range 551 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: of about twenty five hundred miles that would put all 552 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: kinds of European capitals within reach that we didn't think 553 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 3: Iran could reach. That did that play any role in 554 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 3: any of our decision making? 555 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: I have no idea had to had to. I haven't 556 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: puzzled out how exactly, But I really believe Europe, which 557 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: is doing what Europe usually does. You know, claiming to 558 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: want to peace and prosperity in the US is just 559 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: doo means sometimes and everything else because they sit there 560 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: comfortably in their welfare states, feeling unthreatened by Iran. If 561 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: they just you know, continue to not to poke the 562 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: hornet's nest, the hornets will never come out. But this 563 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: is made clear to them. Oh yes, they can hit 564 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: us and have expressed the desire to do so. All right, 565 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: maybe we have to, you know, look around and find 566 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: our balls, pardon me, and help stand up against Iran. Well, 567 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. 568 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: I'm actually reading Trump's statement that he put out. Does 569 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: I have a time and a date on here? Doesn't 570 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 3: so I don't know what time he put it out, 571 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: but it was very Trumpian. If Iran doesn't, and then 572 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 3: in all caps, fully open, without threat, the straits of 573 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 3: horror moves within all caps. Forty eight hours from this 574 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 3: exact point in time, the United States of America will 575 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 3: hit and obliterate their various in all caps power plants, 576 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 3: starting with the biggest one. First, thank you for your 577 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 3: attention to this matter, President Donald J. 578 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: Trump. Is there a time on that? A timestamp? 579 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 3: This one does not have it on here. I wish 580 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,959 Speaker 3: I knew what time, though, was I should look that up? 581 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: That was unless that was put out precisely on the 582 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: hour or on the half hour. It was from the hip. 583 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: You don't set a deadline from ten to thirty seven pm, 584 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: think you did, because people would be the late would 585 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: be like, what was it was that ten forty seven 586 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: or ten thirty ten thirty seven? 587 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 3: It absolutely was, because the original time was it was 588 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 3: going to be seven forty five eastern tonight for forty 589 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: five West coast time. 590 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: All right, yeah, you mentioned that, so that. 591 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 3: Was the forty eight hours. But you're but usually yeah, 592 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: usually deadlines are midnight tonight or close business or something 593 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: like tomorrow, sure at dawn even. 594 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: Usually not seven five, Yeah, yeah, so interesting. Speaking of spokespeople, 595 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: Iris Stole wrote a great piece for The Free Beacon 596 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: about Pete Hegzath and that if you had to predict 597 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: who the Trump administration would want in front of the 598 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: public messaging, you might not choose Pete conventionally, but that 599 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: if and when the US and Israel win the war, 600 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: part of the reason will be the success of heg 601 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: Seth quote in communicating directly to the American people into 602 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: the troops. And he points out that Hegzath, whether or 603 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: through the TV or social media or whatever, the message 604 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: is clear and consistent, rather than getting drawn into Vietnam's 605 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: war style five PM follies of daily briefings Hegseeth and 606 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: General Kinane have come out somewhat sparingly. They've been careful 607 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: about keeping the press questions limited. The point of the 608 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: briefings isn't to make journalists fame. It's to let Hexath 609 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: communicate to the country. Choose your preferred modifier. Relentless, robotic, 610 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: Hegsath stays on message with short sentences, simple language, hammering 611 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: the ideas home to the audience like another bombing sortie 612 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: against enemy targets. And when he Ohwen this is My 613 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: favorite part. One somewhat refreshing thing is that he talks 614 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,239 Speaker 1: unburdened by political correctness about killing the enemy. Quote. Our 615 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: warriors have fought with lethality, he said. The other day, 616 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: he's unsparing and describing the targets rats. He calls Iran's 617 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: leadership barbaric, savages, terrorist cowards. I like it. 618 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 3: By the way, you mentioned that a hit those power 619 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: plants would be a violation of international law. That was 620 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: the argument that the Iran Iranian foreign minister is making. 621 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 3: I can't nice nice. It takes a giant coconuts for 622 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 3: Iran to start calling into international law. You'd be violating 623 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 3: international law if you did that. They hung that wrestler 624 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 3: over the weekend. Did you see that story? Just freaking horrifying. Yeah, 625 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 3: got their star wrestler, world champion, Olympic winning wrestler who 626 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 3: participated in the protests. They hung him over the weekness. Yes, God, 627 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 3: these people can't go soon enough. They're monsters and more 628 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 3: other ways to hear. 629 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 9: We heard a big boom, so I told my grandson 630 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 9: to go see what it was. He come back and said, 631 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 9: you have a hole in the ceiling. First thing, I 632 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 9: was mad I'm like, what didn't come through the ceiling? 633 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 9: But then when I saw the hole, then I saw 634 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 9: the piece on the hole in the floor and this, 635 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 9: and then I saw the rock and I'm like, oh no, 636 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 9: I say, that looked like a media piece. And they 637 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 9: said they had reports that a meteor was over north 638 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 9: Port of Houston and exploded and had pieces went out everywhere. 639 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 9: So I said, this probably is a meteor and I'm 640 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 9: definitely gonna keep it. 641 00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: Well, that's something. 642 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 3: She gets a whole in her roof and she said, oh, dang, 643 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 3: that looks like a meteor, and sure enough it was. 644 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what that would look like. We've been 645 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: talking so much about the conflict with heron we've underplayed 646 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: the conflict with the Martians or Etonians or whoever is 647 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: attacking us. We're trying to soften us up with their artillery. First. 648 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: Clearly they attacked Ohio last week over the weekend. It's Texas. 649 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: It's a nightmare. Run for your life. Helmet two government 650 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: spokesman stories number one. I want to finish this thought 651 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: about Pete hegseeth Iristole, writing he has been nearly as 652 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: derisive towards the Pentagon Press quote, a dishonest and anti 653 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: Trump press will stop at nothing we know at this 654 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 1: point to downplay progress, amplify every cost, and call into 655 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: question every step. Why that's accurate? Sadly, TDS is in 656 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: their DNA. They want President Trump to fail, But you, 657 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: the American people know better. He called CNN a report 658 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: fundamentally unserious. Instead, the sooner David Ellison takes over the network, 659 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: the better. The whole quagmire narrative just just ridiculous. Are 660 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: there problems, questions, setbacks, Folks have been hurt, folks have 661 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: been killed, bumps in the road one hundred. Boy, this 662 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: is a new thing to have a nearly unified anti 663 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: Trump media reporting on a conflict with a terrible, dangerous 664 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: country as while much more amusing government story. Apparently, some 665 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: rogue employee changed the voicemail at the Department of Health 666 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: and Human Services to that of a Domino's Pizza office. 667 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: They changed the message to the secretary himself, Robert F. 668 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior's office too, thank you for calling Domino's Pizza. 669 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: Can you please hold thank you? And according to the 670 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: HHS spokesman, and I quote, um oh it disappeared. Oh 671 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: I hate when this happens. Oh, here it is. That 672 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: was an unauthorized action by a rogue employee and does 673 00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: not represent. 674 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 3: The why'd they authorize that? Oh, it was unauthorized. 675 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: So the AHSS has become a Domino's Pizza outlet. I'm 676 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: still confuted they have not. Oh, they have not, according 677 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: to the official spokesman statement. Thank you for that. 678 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 3: If you missed the segment or an hour, get the 679 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 3: podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand 680 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty