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Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Welcome into a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you. Hope everybody had a

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Speaker 2: good Valentine's Day with their significant others. You had dinner

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Speaker 2: and a show, didn't you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. We went to SHA's last night and saw a

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Speaker 1: funny girl good for you m hm, the lead girl,

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Speaker 1: and that was super talented. She's got a pie. He's

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Speaker 1: got a nuclear reactor as a voice. Wow, it's like

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Speaker 1: that good. It's like Barber Streiss and you know, oh wow,

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Speaker 1: it's one of those she would people killed it. People

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Speaker 1: were like wow, yeah, you know it was great, well produced,

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Speaker 1: well acted, music was great and Chay's is yeah, brilliant.

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Speaker 1: It was great. Happy Valentine's Day, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was great.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we and we would be remiss if we don't

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Speaker 2: address this. There was a much more somber event that

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Speaker 2: took place yesterday, and that was the violence at the

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Speaker 2: conclusion of the Kansas City Chief Super Bowl parade and

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Speaker 2: gathering in downtown Kansas City to celebrate their latest Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl victory. It unfortunately ends in violence, with three suspected shooters,

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Speaker 2: killing one and wounding twenty one others, eleven of whom

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Speaker 2: were children ages six to fifteen. And perhaps the most

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Speaker 2: so sovering part of this is it was the forty

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Speaker 2: eighth mass shooting in our country in the first forty

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Speaker 2: five days of twenty twenty four. That's right, more mass

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Speaker 2: there was a mass shooting also in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 2: Where three officers were shot in the line of duty,

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Speaker 2: High School. That was all yesterday, which is a small

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Speaker 2: example of how shootings mass shootings outpace the days of

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Speaker 2: the year in this country. Yesterday was also the sixth

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Speaker 2: anniversary of the Parkland shooting at Stone and Douglas High

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Speaker 2: shooting of on the Michigan State University campus. So President

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Speaker 2: asked for citizens to make their voices heard with their

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Speaker 2: congressmen and women in Congress. We know nothing seems to

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Speaker 2: get done when it comes to banning assault weapons and

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Speaker 2: owning one. It's become all too common a topic, and

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Speaker 2: these days in this country, where it doesn't matter where

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Speaker 1: The Kansas City Police have reported that it was not

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Speaker 1: anything except an argument between a few people. It was

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Speaker 1: not terrorists, it wasn't someone yeah, it was not terrorists,

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Speaker 2: And if we want to look for the positive out

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Speaker 2: So we salute those people, both you know, regular everyday

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Speaker 2: And fortunately he and the rest of the people that

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Speaker 2: that that's awful, but the kind of want to share

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Speaker 2: would hate to see gun violence like this force people

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Speaker 2: It's a shame, it really really is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It was, and it's tragic, and there's

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Speaker 1: We were watching it, and in fact, it was off

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Speaker 1: Obviously a ton of national media sports media were there

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it was It's uh, it's tragic. It's always tragic,

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Speaker 2: It's tragic, right, So hopefully all those people that were

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Speaker 2: at a Super Bowl celebration. Ridiculous. The Chiefs players there

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Speaker 2: presented by Kalida Healthy, official health care system of the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills and the San Francisco forty nine Ers fired

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Speaker 2: Steve Wilkes as defensive coordinator after just one year on

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Speaker 2: the job. You remember that in overtime of the game, Steve,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this, Steve Wilkes tried everything. He

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Speaker 2: The problem was he's playing against Patrick Mahomes. It makes

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Speaker 2: me wonder, Steve, like you think about all of these

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Speaker 1: Like this, we see that with Josh. He's look over

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Either way, he's looking for work and the timing

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Speaker 2: right for a lot of teams in terms of filling

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Speaker 2: will Wilkes takes a year off or whether he finds

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Speaker 2: his way to another job in the NFL. The Saints

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Speaker 2: to recover from, and that happened in early October that alone.

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Speaker 2: Oh and Taylor Rap's a free agent, He's not a

436
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Speaker 2: lock to be back either. So I think for me,

437
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Speaker 2: just in terms of change, I think their secondary might

438
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Speaker 2: look most different in twenty twenty four to what it

439
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Speaker 2: was in twenty twenty three, which might be hard for

440
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Speaker 2: some people to accept because you know, we've all be

441
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: kind of come accustomed to a lot of those primary

442
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Speaker 2: players that have been back there for a long time

443
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Speaker 2: since McDermott gotten the door.

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Speaker 1: Pretty much, Trey White's not going to be on the

445
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Speaker 1: field opening day. I in my I don't think Poyer

446
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Speaker 1: and Hyde probably won't. So it leaves you with Tarren Johnson,

447
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: Rausseul Douglas, Christian Benford, and Kyrie Elam. Dane Jackson will

448
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Speaker 1: be in the mix. Well, he's a free agent, that's

449
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: you know. But you will have you will have Milano

450
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Speaker 1: and you know Bernard, So yeah, I mean you'll have

451
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Speaker 1: those guys back. But yeah, it's going to be a

452
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: very different team on that side of the football this year. Offensively,

453
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Speaker 1: you might look a lot the same, except for maybe

454
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Speaker 1: wide receiver number two. That's I think the part of

455
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Speaker 1: this that gives me a lot of confidence that they're

456
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Speaker 1: going to be able to go out and do some things.

457
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Speaker 1: Certainly it falls on Joe Brady to keep that production

458
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Speaker 1: up and have him scored a bunch of points until

459
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Speaker 1: that defense gels. I still think this is a team

460
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Speaker 1: that's going to be there at the end of it

461
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Speaker 1: and have something to say about it.

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Speaker 2: Let's jump on the phone lines at eight h three

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Speaker 2: zero five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty.

464
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Speaker 2: You got a couple of lines open for you there

465
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Speaker 2: right now in terms of where you think the bills

466
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: will look most different in twenty twenty four. But we

467
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Speaker 2: lead off with Ralph in Rochester.

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Speaker 4: What's up, Ralph, Good afternoon, guys, first time caller.

469
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Speaker 5: I love the show.

470
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Speaker 4: I'm interested. I understand why we're trying to recruit a

471
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Speaker 4: wide receiver, but I'm interested if Matt Mulano, do you

472
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Speaker 4: know if he's running lifting weights and Tredavious White similarly,

473
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Speaker 4: is he able to work out at all yet from

474
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 4: his Achilles procedure? Appreciate it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, sure thing.

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Speaker 1: Ralph Ralph, I mean, those guys are at it every day,

477
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Speaker 1: every day, absolutely every day. We've seen Mat Milano in

478
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Speaker 1: building a lot, walking around, lifting, we're doing weight training,

479
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Speaker 1: but they're also doing rehab, which is that's not really

480
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: like you wouldn't say lifting or working out, but they're

481
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Speaker 1: doing things they'll get them better. The Achilles thing is

482
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Speaker 1: a crusher of an injury for any NFL player or

483
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Speaker 1: any athlete, and that's going to take a minute for

484
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Speaker 1: Tradevi's to get back to where he's like running and

485
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: doing all that stuff. But he's here. We've seen him

486
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Speaker 1: in the building rehabing and stuff. And now they'll come

487
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: in touch base for a week or so and then

488
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Speaker 1: they'll go back home and rehab there as well. But

489
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Speaker 1: Milano has been in the was in the building for

490
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Speaker 1: the last two and a half at least months of

491
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: the season, walking around working out. So yeah, these guys,

492
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: they're at it every day. That's all they think about.

493
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Speaker 1: That's all they have to do. I mean, I mean,

494
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Speaker 1: that's their job. They get paid a lot of money

495
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: and part of their job is to get themselves ready

496
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Speaker 1: to play. That's all they do these days.

497
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Speaker 2: I would say to Steve's point, though, both of those

498
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: players are more in the rehab mode of their recovery.

499
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: They are not doing football related activities in any way,

500
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: shape or form right now. It's going to take some time.

501
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 2: An achilles injury is usually a calendar year injury from

502
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Speaker 2: which to recover. And when you think about the position

503
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: that Tradeavious White plays, you know you're backpedaling, you stick

504
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: that foot in the ground, plant and drive. You are

505
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: putting all of your torque on your achilles every time

506
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Speaker 2: you stop and drive forward off of it. So that

507
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: thing has got to be not only structurally sound, but

508
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: strong again. And I believe they still do the surgery

509
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: this way. When they reattach the achilles from wherever it ruptured,

510
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 2: they don't reattach it end to end. They overlap it

511
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: to make it stronger, and then it's on the player

512
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: through rehabilitation to get it back stretched to its original length.

513
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: So you can imagine how much time that takes. Once

514
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: it's repaired, it's okay, but it's not strong and it's

515
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Speaker 2: not as long as the other achilles, So to avoid

516
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: over compensation and risking other kinds of injuries, they have

517
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: to rehabit until it is back to the same length

518
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: as it was originally, and that's why it takes so long.

519
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've I've heard different things about how they do it.

520
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: There's you know, they're always tinkering with the better ways

521
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: to do it. And I think one of the things

522
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: they used to like just overlap it and sew it together.

523
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: Now I think they're I think splitting it and meshing

524
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: it together. What they do then just overlapping it. They're

525
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: like they're meshing it, they're interweaving it with itself. They're

526
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: so I've heard that as well. I don't know if

527
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: that's that's a new technique. I think it is. That's

528
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: the way I heard it and why I heard it

529
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: because somebody said that was a new thing. I don't

530
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: know if that's actually two or not. But they are

531
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: all and I've talked to joint specialists and orthopedic guys.

532
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: They're always tinkering with better ways to do it, and

533
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: uh yeah, but they you know, the body is what

534
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: it is. It takes a while. It takes a while,

535
00:29:59,200 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: and not.

536
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: Even for the highest trained athletes on the planet.

537
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: And think about this too. You gotta trust it. To

538
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: be an athlete mental hurdle, you gotta be able to

539
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: forget that your achilles was ever popped and think about

540
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: how hard that is.

541
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, especially after Traudevius got over the mental hurdle

542
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: of believing his knee was better and then that happens.

543
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: So he's still got quite a mountain to climb. Not

544
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: saying I'm doubt in Trudevius, I'll be the last person

545
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: to do that, but he's got a long road in

546
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: front of him still, So we obviously wish him the best,

547
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: but it's going to take him some time, I think

548
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: that's safe to say, and Milano too, for that matter.

549
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: So we'll get a better handle on it once we

550
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: get to April and the players are back in the

551
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: building for offseason conditioning and things like that. But yes,

552
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: suffice it to say, it's still going to take a

553
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: while for both those guys who are strictly in rehab

554
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: mode right now. Got to take a break here, but

555
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: we are wide open for your phone calls all afternoon.

556
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Speaker 2: Here Where will the bills look most different in twenty

557
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: twenty four. Skanny Antlass will lead us off and we'll

558
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: get to others holding at eight h three oh five

559
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: fifty when we return here on one Bill's Live presented

560
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Speaker 2: by co Lot of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Anyway,

561
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Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live on a Thursday.

562
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: Chris Brown Steve task you with you and question on

563
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: the table today. Where will the Bills look most different

564
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. Could be the roster, could be

565
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: the offensive scheme, could be anything that you think will

566
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: look dramatically different for this team come this fall. When

567
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: we go back to the phones. We got a lot

568
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: of people holding. We'll rifle through these as best we can,

569
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: but we lead off with John in Scanny Atlas. What

570
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: do you have for us? John?

571
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 6: Hi, Fanaz, thanks for taking my call this morning. I'm

572
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 6: a retired physician and I'm been a fantasy general manager

573
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 6: of the Bill since nineteen sixty Number one. I thought

574
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 6: the offensive line this year was better than it's been

575
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 6: in twenty years, and so I would keep the do

576
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 6: everything I can the next few years to keep this

577
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 6: offensive line going. There was some talk yesterday about Riza

578
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 6: the punter. I think Chris you said yesterday that Sam

579
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 6: Martin is under contract next year. I don't have any problem.

580
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 6: I read all the legal reports about what happened with

581
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 6: Riza in California at San Diego State. He's been cleared.

582
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 6: I'm okay with him. I think the safeties I don't know.

583
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 6: I heard you guys comment earlier today that you thought

584
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 6: Poyer and Hyde would be gone next year. I think

585
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 6: Kyer Elm would be a great safety. I know there

586
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 6: was talk last year that Benford might be switched to safety.

587
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 6: Benford seems to be able to be stickier. He gives

588
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 6: up less space than Elm. But Elam is big, fast

589
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 6: and comes downhill and he tackles well. He looks like

590
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 6: a safety to me, So that's one thing. Kyer Elam

591
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 6: and Taylor Rapp is our safeties next year if Player

592
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 6: and Hide aren't here. I have some I mentioned I'm

593
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 6: a retired physician. I have some experience with people with

594
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 6: ACLS injuries. It takes a year to recover to be

595
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 6: even to be able to play, and it seems to

596
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 6: be able to take another half year to a full

597
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 6: year to knock all the rust off and get get

598
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 6: back to where you were. I think von Miller looked

599
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 6: like he was getting better and better after each game,

600
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 6: and now that he's got the off season to continue

601
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 6: to recover, I think he may be what we need,

602
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 6: which is we need somebody that can put pressure on

603
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 6: the quarterback. I all. So one of the things that

604
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 6: I think we need to do, partly because we're fifty

605
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 6: million dollars over the cap, bean's been kicking the can

606
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 6: down the road. Well, Josh was on his rookie contract

607
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 6: in his fifth year option, but that's over now, and

608
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 6: now we're each year the cap over the cap number

609
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 6: has gotten bigger and bigger and bigger. So I think

610
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 6: we need to bite the dolla and do what the

611
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 6: Chiefs have done the last two years, and that is

612
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 6: go with a huge number of rookies, not just the

613
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 6: first and second day picks, but also keeping the third

614
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 6: round guys on the fifty three man roster. One of

615
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 6: the things that I'll use an example, Alc Austin was

616
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 6: on our practice squad and Trey White gets hurt, and

617
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 6: we went out and traded a third round pick and

618
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 6: we bring Trey Wright in for seven million, and then

619
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 6: Alack Austin gets plucked off the practice squad.

620
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Speaker 2: And he's in.

621
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Speaker 6: New New England and in that last game he looked

622
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 6: like he could play. So I think we need to

623
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 6: go with My overall thing is I think we need

624
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 6: to go with younger players, and we need to get

625
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 6: the sorry captain order. I'm against kicking the can down

626
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 6: the road further. So I'll hang up now and listen

627
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 6: to you guys comment.

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Speaker 2: Thank a lot, all right, A lot in there, John

629
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: first and foremost, I think you can take care a

630
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: lot of the cap issues by doing a simple conversion

631
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: on Josh's existing contract. You can get rid of about

632
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: half of that number just by doing that, So I

633
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 2: would anticipate that happens. I would anticipate an extension for

634
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: Dion Dawkins, who's only got a year left on his

635
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: deal and is still playing at a Pro Bowl level

636
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: and is only twenty nine years old. So there are

637
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: I think there are a number of avenues the Bills

638
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: can go down to alleviate themselves of the cap issues

639
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: that they have. They may have to do some restructures

640
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 2: which would kick the can down the road. If you're

641
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: telling them to bite the bullet, I think you need

642
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: to expect the team to take a step back because

643
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: now you're lopping people off the roster. If you're going

644
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: to bite the bullet, that means somebody like Jordan Poyter

645
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: would not be on the roster, there'd be other people

646
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: with high price contracts that you may choose to eat

647
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 2: to save nine million, even though you might take on

648
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: ten million in dead cap money, you'd be saving, you know,

649
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 2: you'd be lopping off nineteen and getting a net gain

650
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: of nine, you know, something like that. So I don't

651
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: think they want to bite the bullet. I think they

652
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: want to remain in contention, keep the core intact. But

653
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: I do think they are going to get younger because

654
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: of that. To your point, John, I think they're going

655
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: to have to nail this draft and get younger and

656
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: then just really quickly with the Alex Austin comment. Their

657
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: seventh round draft choice out of Oregon State, who played corner.

658
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: He did not make the fifty three man roster coming

659
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: out of camp. They tried to put him on the

660
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: practice squad, and Houston plucked him off of their immediately

661
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 2: week one. He was never on the Bills practice squad

662
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: because the Houston Texans grabbed him immediately and put him

663
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: on their fifty three man roster. Probably about week six

664
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: or seven they released him and he wound up in

665
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: New England, where he was on the fifty three man

666
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: roster for the remainder of the season, So the Bills

667
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: never had an opportunity to call him up from their

668
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: practice squad because he never landed there. He got claimed

669
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: on a waiver claim. So did Nick Broker, their sixth

670
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: round pick, the guard they drafted out of Old Miss.

671
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: He'd never made it to their practice squad. He got

672
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: plucked off the roster, I think by Houston as well,

673
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: if I remember right. So, Yeah, when you're a deep

674
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 2: roster like the Bills have had, it's hard to groom

675
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: young late draft choices that you think have a future

676
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: in this league because teams whose rosters aren't as strong

677
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: are grabbing them immediately to put him on their fifty three.

678
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: Right, And it's not a brand being issue going youthful

679
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: on the roster. Now, He's always put rookies on there,

680
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: and that's they'll be on the fifty three and the

681
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: practice quading all that because Brandon Bean says there, but

682
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: to play him, that's on Sean McDermott. Sean McDermott says,

683
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: who plays of the fifty three guys and who's up

684
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: from the practice squad and all of that. He'll ask

685
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: for those guys. Now, those two guys are in the

686
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: lockstep of what they think and their beliefs and how

687
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: it should work and which guys here, which guy's there,

688
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: and all of that, and Brandon Bean's not gonna, you know,

689
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: totally blow off what Sean mcgermott wants done with the roster.

690
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: But whatever disagreements they are there are, Brandon Bean has

691
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: the final say. That's the way it works in the

692
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: NFL because the GM's got to be able to make

693
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: these moves, and sometimes they happen fast and you don't

694
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: have time to talk to the guy or have discussions

695
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: or watch film or do all that stuff. You got

696
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: to know this stuff and make the move. So the

697
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: general managers in the NFL are the guys who picked

698
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: the fifty three guys. If you're talking about you got

699
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 1: to play, that's on Sean. He has to side whether

700
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: a rookie is worthy of playing or not. He has

701
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: to make that decision. And so that's that's, you know,

702
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: one of the things you said, you gotta make the

703
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: move that listen, they're gonna they're gonna put the guys

704
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: on the best players on the roster that they can,

705
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: whether they're young or old, they're gonna get them but

706
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna have ten draft pick or listen, at this point,

707
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna have ten draft picks to choose from. Those

708
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: ten guys have a chance to get on the roster.

709
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: If you get all ten of those guys on the roster,

710
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: that's something. I don't think it'll happen, but that's really something. Now,

711
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: how many of them play and play a lot? That's

712
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: the real question, and that's what we're kind of talking

713
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: about throughout this offseason. Has Sean has shown the the

714
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: willingness to play young players, but it's rare, it's not always,

715
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: and it's not always the guy you think, Christian Benford

716
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: Kyrie Elam being the most prominent example of that. You

717
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: got a sixth rounder playing ahead of a number one,

718
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: and it has been for has been for two years now.

719
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: Maybe that changes with a new coaching staff and the

720
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: you know, different set of eyes on those that group

721
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: and all that. But you're right, that's that's a Sean

722
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: McDermott issue, playing the young guys on the roster instead

723
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: of the old guys, not a Brandon Bean issue.

724
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: And then real quick with your Kye Elam to safety argument,

725
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: I think they just want to get Kye focused on corner.

726
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: I don't think they want to throw a curveball at

727
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: him now when you may finally get an opportunity to

728
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: really challenge for a starring role. You know, Tredavius White

729
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: is not going to be ready at the start of

730
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: the season, So now it's Kyer Elim, Christian Benford and

731
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: Rasul Douglas. Those are your three primary guys fighting for

732
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 2: starting roles. I think they want him in that mix.

733
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: Not to mention the fact that it's easier to find

734
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 2: a safety than it is to find a cover corner,

735
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: which is what kyer Elam is. There are corners, but

736
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: I think developing one and getting one to be, you know,

737
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: a lockdown type player a little bit harder to find

738
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: on the boundary than it is to find the middle

739
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: of the field safety. Let's get back to the full

740
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 2: phones and we go to Tim and Charlotte next. What's up, Tim, Hey, guys,

741
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: how you doing good?

742
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 7: I just have a I just want to throw a

743
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 7: couple different things at you. First and foremost, how cool

744
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 7: is it that our star quarterback is out playing off

745
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 7: with Tiger Woods, probably the greatest full time first off

746
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 7: that's not being talked off about enough. But and then

747
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 7: just to kind of touch on your guys point about

748
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 7: the Twitter question today, I really think the DV room

749
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 7: we're going to see a youth movement there, and I'm

750
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 7: all for it, you know, too much. Too many of

751
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 7: these teams out here have two, three, four, sometimes even

752
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 7: wide receivers that are just running away from people and

753
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 7: I really love to see. And I'm with you, Chris,

754
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 7: I don't think higher time here is done. He kind

755
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 7: of just stole my thunder there. I think the dude's

756
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 7: stud is just going to take a perfect situation to

757
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 7: kind of get it out of him. So I really

758
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 7: look forward to him. And I don't know if Trey

759
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 7: White's gonna be back on the roster next year or not,

760
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 7: but you know, Brandon Bean's a tough decision there. So

761
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 7: I think the bob A room. Oh and obviously shooting

762
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 7: brand new safeties, plus that we're probably gonna have to

763
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 7: get out of this draft. And then the third thing,

764
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 7: I just want to ask you guys a question because

765
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 7: you guys always ask us questions and we never get

766
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 7: to hear your thoughts. So I'm going to propose a

767
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 7: question for you. You could take rather either or excuse me.

768
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 8: The first one is go wide receiver at twenty eight

769
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 8: and then probably pick up a guy later in the

770
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 8: draft round four or five or something like that, maybe

771
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 8: even round six, or because we.

772
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 7: All know that we want two of them.

773
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 8: Or do you take the best defensive linemen available at.

774
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 7: Twenty eight, because again, all those guys are getting pushed

775
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 7: downs at the quarterbacks, the corners, and the wide receivers.

776
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 7: Take the best defensive lineman we can at twenty eight prospects,

777
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 7: and whether that's inside outside doesn't matter, and then maybe

778
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 7: double up on day two where Chris or I'm sorry,

779
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 7: Steve did the example yesterday where trading up from Marvin Harrison,

780
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 7: which has never ever happened. But when you trade up

781
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 7: from that late in round three, the cost is much less.

782
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 7: So go get your guy, move up in round three,

783
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 7: even if you give up a d a day three pick.

784
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 7: I just want to know which would you, guys rather

785
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 7: do or see the bills?

786
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 2: Thanks, yeah, sure thing. Tim. When you're picking twenty eighth,

787
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: you're kind of the victim of the circumstances that unfold

788
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: in front of you. So I think all of us

789
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: ideally would love to get a stud alpha male receiver

790
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 2: in round one, where the better ones tend to lie.

791
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: But the board may fall in such a way where

792
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: that's just not in the cards and you have to pivot.

793
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: I mean the Bills had to do that last year.

794
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: I think they would have loved to draft a receiver

795
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: in round one last year, but the run happened right

796
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 2: in front of them. So what did Brandon Bean do?

797
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: He pivoted and he got the best tight end in

798
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: the draft. He may have to pivot again this year

799
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: because when you're picking down there, you have to have

800
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: a contingency plan. So I think it's very possible they

801
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 2: could have to pivot and take a a premier defensive

802
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: tackle because all the edge rushers, corners, receivers, and quarterbacks

803
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: pushed the best talent in the class at defensive tackle

804
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: down there. You can get the best defensive tackle in

805
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: the class at twenty eight. You do it, just like

806
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 2: he had the opportunity to get the best pass catching

807
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 2: tight end in the class, you know, at twenty three

808
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: or wherever the heck they were last year and did that.

809
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: So I think that's what it's going to be predicated upon.

810
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 2: I mean, an ideal world, Yeah, you get the alpha

811
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: dog receiver in round one and figure the rest out later.

812
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 2: But I don't know if picking at twenty eight it's

813
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: gonna allow that to happen.

814
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: Right, And you're right, there may be a guy that

815
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: falls at the from a defensive line standpoint down to

816
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: twenty eight, and all of a sudden, he's going to

817
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: be a way better defensive lineman than the receiver that's

818
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: left on the board. Getting a sixth wide receiver or.

819
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 9: Whatever it is.

820
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: You may like that better, and but I'm with you.

821
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: I think they either take one at number twenty eight,

822
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: a wide receiver that is, or if they take a

823
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: defensive lineman at twenty eight, they take a receiver at

824
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: sixty and at ninety nine. I think they get two

825
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: out of the first three picks, or one if it's

826
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: a wide receiver at twenty eight. That's what I think.

827
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: Now they may not because the wait, once you get down,

828
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 1: once you get down to sixtieth pick and the ninety

829
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: ninth pick, which is the Bill's third pick in this draft,

830
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: who knows.

831
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a value exercise.

832
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: Who knows? Who knows? It's a It starts to become

833
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 1: more and more hard to evaluate, which.

834
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: Is why more often than not, GMS will default to

835
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: doing what the board tells them, because that's what the

836
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 2: last eight to ten months they're having evaluators scattered all

837
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: over the country was four. So when you get to

838
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: that point, you know what your value is, and you

839
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: know what your best value is regardless of position at

840
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 2: that spot, because the board, which has the intel of

841
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: thirty some odd people on your staff, is pulled together

842
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 2: on that board to tell you this is where you

843
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: go right now based on who's left.

844
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: What happens if they put all the names on the board,

845
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: even the guys that they have no shot at getting

846
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: the Marvin Harrison juniors, and they rank them if in

847
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: a vacuum, which guys would they take if they were

848
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: the only team in the league, and what order would

849
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: they take him? Let's go down, and they go all

850
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: the way through two hundred, right And they do that dispassionately,

851
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: looking at him as a pro prospect, not college production

852
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: or what only as you know, as it's factored in,

853
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: who's gonna be the best pro for us in our

854
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: system with our guys, you know right now, who would

855
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: we pick in a vacuum? And they rank them for

856
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: like two hundred guys and whoever. And then all of

857
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: a sudden they get down to their ninety ninth pick

858
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: and they got a guy that they would have taken

859
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: if they'd have had him at thirty five, And all

860
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's still there, so they jump up

861
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: and they'll take that guy's That's how that works, and

862
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: that's why it's impossible to anticipate.

863
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: Break time for us. But we're a wide open for

864
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Speaker 2: phone calls, so we'll get to more of yours when

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Speaker 2: we return here on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned all

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Speaker 2: right back here on one Bill's Live. I want to

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Speaker 2: get right back to the phones where people have been

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Speaker 2: waiting patiently to Bill in Knoxville.

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Speaker 1: What's up Bill, Good afternoon.

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Speaker 10: Guys left that I was able to get off early

871
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 10: to call in. First off, Steve, I love that you're

872
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Speaker 10: still around, Love that you're doing this. That brings me

873
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Speaker 10: back to when you were on one of the many

874
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Speaker 10: posters of on my wall and my youth. So I

875
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Speaker 10: appreciate my friend.

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Speaker 1: And U.

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Speaker 10: Of course, Chris, love you too, man, I just don't

878
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Speaker 10: have the same in history.

879
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Speaker 2: That's fine, no offense take.

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00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 10: But as far as the biggest changes I'm seeing I'm

881
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 10: looking forward to the defensive changes because, just like you said,

882
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 10: McDermott has historically so far for us gotten more out

883
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 10: of his players than expected. I'm hoping we don't spend

884
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 10: too too many assets on that side and just get

885
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Speaker 10: the most out of who we got or who we

886
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Speaker 10: can get. And of course Trey Trey White, I'm missing

887
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 10: seeing him around, I'm missing his goalie academy and just him.

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Speaker 11: As a person.

889
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Speaker 10: I hope for the best for him and hope that

890
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Speaker 10: he can make as close to a full recovery as possible.

891
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 10: But between the D line and the secondary changes and

892
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 10: Hyde retiring on us and the maybe on Poyer, I

893
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Speaker 10: expect that to be the biggest change. And then just

894
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Speaker 10: the other note that I have, and then I'll hang

895
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Speaker 10: up and let you guys talk. Joe Brady with an

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Speaker 10: off season under his belt and the coming out party

897
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Speaker 10: of James Cook, I look forward to seeing when he's

898
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Speaker 10: got some more time to come up with some things.

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Speaker 10: What kind of plays we can see, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Just stuff, Bill, I would agree with you. Here's the

901
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: thing we've talked a lot about, you know, the free

902
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Speaker 1: agents and how the defensive side of the ball is

903
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Speaker 1: going to be gutted because of you know, the salary

904
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Speaker 1: cap and because of the guys aging out and the

905
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Speaker 1: contracts up and the free agents that came up on

906
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Speaker 1: that side of the ball. The offense should be pretty

907
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: much intact. In fact, may get better if they can

908
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Speaker 1: get that guy across from Diggs, right, and Joe Brady

909
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: coming in. Now with all of those guys coming back,

910
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: all the offensive linemen, the tight end room, the running

911
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: back room at the top with James Cook, Diggs, Khalil Shakir,

912
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Speaker 1: all of that. You got all those guys and Josh

913
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Speaker 1: of course coming back. With Joe Brady, they can build.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're not just they're not gonna have to

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Speaker 1: tear it down, start from scratch and see who can

916
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Speaker 1: play and then decide who can play well. And they're

917
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Speaker 1: gonna be able to like step forward offensively, you would think,

918
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Speaker 1: particularly Joe Brady, because now it's it's his offense, it's

919
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Speaker 1: his room, it's his creativity, it's his you know, beliefs.

920
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Speaker 2: And we're gonna get a chance to see it. Yeah,

921
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 2: that's fun, be very interesting to see what tweaks and

922
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Speaker 2: changes he makes. Are they wholesale changes where you're like, wow,

923
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Speaker 2: wasn't expecting that or are they more subtle changes. I

924
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Speaker 2: think one thing he is going to change, and I

925
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Speaker 2: would imagine it would be for the better, is to

926
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Speaker 2: make James Cook the focal point of all lot of

927
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Speaker 2: what they do going forward, both in the run game

928
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Speaker 2: and the past game. I think that's going to be

929
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Speaker 2: very interesting to see because he is a dynamic talent

930
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Speaker 2: and arguably the most dynamic on the entire offensive side

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Speaker 2: of the ball. Let's go to Chuck and Hamburg. Here

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Speaker 2: what he got.

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Speaker 5: Chuck, Hey, Chris Steve, I hope you guys have a

934
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Speaker 5: happy offseason and mostly informative. My hope is that the

935
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Speaker 5: unit that will look most different in twenty twenty four

936
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Speaker 5: is the special teams unit from the Jets game to

937
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Speaker 5: the last game in Kansas City. That's the unit that

938
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Speaker 5: disappointed me most last season. I'll hang up and let

939
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Speaker 5: Juristan because John from Skinny Atlas was one long winded dude.

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Speaker 2: One guys, thanks Chuck, thanks for keeping it brief. A wow,

941
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Speaker 2: we got caller on caller fire there ill each other

942
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Speaker 2: count away. I will say there could be some change

943
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Speaker 2: there for this reason. Some of the veterans special teamers

944
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Speaker 2: that have been the core of that group are free agents.

945
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about people like Cam Lewis is a free agent.

946
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Speaker 2: He's been a gunner on this roster for the last

947
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Speaker 2: couple of years, opposite Saran Neil Tyler. Matikaevich is a

948
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Speaker 2: free agent. He's been a special team stalwart here. He

949
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Speaker 2: was signed as a free agent specifically for his special

950
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Speaker 2: teams play. Tyrrel Dotson, who cut his teeth in this

951
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Speaker 2: league on that special team's unit, as a free agent.

952
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Speaker 2: Ty Johnson, who returned kicks, is a free agent. There

953
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Speaker 2: is a host of players on Buffalo's free agent list

954
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Speaker 2: that were core special teams players, so they could experience

955
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Speaker 2: some turnover there. And then as Steve and I have discussed,

956
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Speaker 2: punter and kicker, they could have some competition come into

957
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: training camp. Not saying they'll replace him, but they're bringing

958
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Speaker 2: in people to push them, right, I would be surprised

959
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Speaker 2: if they don't.

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Speaker 1: That's right, And we've talked also about you know, the

961
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Speaker 1: free agents that are there as well. But yes, I

962
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Speaker 1: think the biggest change is gonna be in the punter

963
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: kicker if there is one. I think they're gonna bring

964
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: those guys in some competition. You're right. There were times

965
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Speaker 1: when the special teams played really well, made some plays

966
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Speaker 1: that changed games, but they also had some huge gas

967
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Speaker 1: opening weekend against the Jets, they gave up the overtime

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Speaker 1: punt return uh to lose it. They twelve men on

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Speaker 1: the field against Denver to lose that. There were other, yes,

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Speaker 1: other long returns as well. So yeah, it was a

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Speaker 1: pretty disappointing year for those guys.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Special teams is a is a different animal than offense

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Speaker 1: or defense. There is, it's hard to eat. There's no

975
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: rhythm kind of thing in that game until late in

976
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Speaker 1: the second half, after you've covered four or five punts.

977
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Speaker 1: You know, as a gunner, there's no rhythm. There's certainly

978
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: no rhythm anymore with covering kickoffs because you rarely get

979
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: to do that. Uh, it's it's one shot out of

980
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: the game. One you you get plugged in for a

981
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: play and then you're off the field. Few goal fue

982
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: goal defense, you know, there's only because of the rules.

983
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: There's there's no creativity. I mean, you just got to

984
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: go and it's a it's a one shot, real quick

985
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: chance to to make a difference. The only chance you

986
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: get really in field goal field goal defense is when

987
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: somebody falls asleep at the switch up front and they

988
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: let a guy through. That doesn't happen very often, particularly

989
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: in big games, even though we saw it happen against

990
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: the Niners and the Chiefs both where one of them

991
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: got blocked and the other one should have got blocked

992
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: for one for each team Special teams. It's hard to

993
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: make a difference with a superlative play. It is easy

994
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: to make a difference with a big mistake, and it's

995
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: always the wrong difference you want to make, you know.

996
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: So that's why Special Teams is a is A is

997
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: not a balanced group. It's very unbalanced. You got to

998
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: you got to do everything right in order to get

999
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: a push, and that's it's a hard spot to play.

1000
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: But I would agree with you there were too many

1001
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: times when it cost him the game.

1002
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 2: We're late to the break, so we got to step aside.

1003
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 2: Here we'll lead off with Jim and Florida and others

1004
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 2: holding at eight oh three, oh five fifty as we

1005
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: are wide open for fold calls and our number two

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Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. It's

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00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio.

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00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

1009
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 2: All right, hour number two here on a Thursday, gonna

1010
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: get right to the phone calls at eight h three

1011
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 2: oh five fifty. Got some people waiting patiently, and we

1012
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 2: lead off with Jim in Florida. What do you got, Jim?

1013
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 12: Well, I want to say I bought you guys on

1014
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 12: TV down here every single day.

1015
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 9: Love the show.

1016
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: Thanks, and so.

1017
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 12: My son and I both my son Jim was a

1018
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 12: ball boy tell him when you guys are down in

1019
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 12: Florida Fredonia. And I was a cample asion when Bludd

1020
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 12: Carpenter before he became trainer down there or up there.

1021
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 12: So anyways, I had something I thought would help.

1022
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: Here. Jim, how old are you.

1023
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 12: Seventy seven?

1024
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I would have asked younger than I would have

1025
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: guessed with the reference you just made. But thank you.

1026
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: Go ahead, man, go ahead.

1027
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 12: I coached, I coach attracted him up there for years.

1028
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 12: But anyways, so we've been huge fans, and he lives

1029
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 12: in South Carolina and I live in Florida. But anyway,

1030
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 12: is I think something that would help If you look

1031
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 12: back in the Casey and New England are probably the

1032
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 12: two best clubs over the years as far as winning

1033
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 12: the Super Bowl, and they both had something in common

1034
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 12: and that was an excellent tight end. We we got

1035
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 12: Kelsey and they had grand Kowski at night at New England.

1036
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 12: I think that those two people were huge a part

1037
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 12: of the championships that they won. And I think we've

1038
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 12: got the same type of individual on this team. Dalton

1039
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 12: kin Kaige I think can be as good as Kelsey

1040
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 12: and Grandkowski, and I think if we use him more.

1041
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 4: We're going to have a lot more success.

1042
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 12: Well that's my team.

1043
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 2: Okay, So you're you're thinking the way they can look

1044
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: different is more involvement with the tight end in the offense,

1045
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: make them more lethal as an offense, maybe go further

1046
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 2: in the playoffs as an offense. Yeah, I mean that's

1047
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 2: a reasonable see based on the examples you cited.

1048
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I like where you're I like, I

1049
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 1: see the logic of what you're saying. There are certain

1050
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: ingredients that every team has. And I heard somebody say

1051
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: I think it was Mark Schleare make the equation of

1052
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: like you go with Kansas City with Travis Kelcey, Pat

1053
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Andy Reid, and you go down the list

1054
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: of all those other grades with Gronkowski Brady and Belichick,

1055
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: and you can.

1056
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 3: Go with.

1057
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: Uh Shanahan, Elway and the running back who I can't think,

1058
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: Jerrell Davis. There's been like and Troy Aikman, Jimmy Jimmy Johnson,

1059
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: Emmitt Smith, you know all those guys, Michael Irvin. So

1060
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 1: there's a kind of a three thing there all the time,

1061
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: and the tight end is a big factor in it.

1062
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: Although might be a stretch to say that's a characteristic now,

1063
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: but you're right, I would say more so it comes

1064
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: down to victual players. Whether the guy's a tight end

1065
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: or wider, you're going to have some of that overlap

1066
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: because there's only eleven guys on the field, and your

1067
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: left guard is probably as much love and respect as

1068
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: I have for Connor mcgovernor and the Bills, your left

1069
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: guard is probably not going to be the guy that

1070
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: puts you over the top for the Super Bowl. Tight

1071
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: end's got a chance at it. A running back's got

1072
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: a chance at it. Certainly the quarterback has a chance

1073
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: at it. But if you're going to try and draw

1074
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: parallels and similarities between great teams who have done it recently,

1075
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: I see your logic about the tight end, but I

1076
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: don't know that I'd put it up there as the

1077
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: thing that puts the bills over the hump.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Doc and Williamsville next. What's up Doc?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for taking my call, Guys, I got a couple

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00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 3: of statements and have a question. I'm convinced that Brandon

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00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 3: Bean will again do a great job through free agency

1082
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 3: and the draft, and I think our fifty three man

1083
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 3: roster will be stronger than it is this year. My

1084
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 3: question is what's the penalty for being over the salary cap?

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00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 3: I'll hang up and let you guys answer.

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00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 9: Thank you.

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00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's five million dollars. If you're not cap compliant,

1088
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: it's a five million dollars fine. More egregious abuse of

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00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: the cap. Like, if you're barely over, you're fine five

1090
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: million dollars. If you are egregiously over, they can doc

1091
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: you draft picks. Like That's how serious the penalties can get.

1092
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 2: So becoming cap compliant is not really an option. It

1093
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 2: is a must. Like it has to happen, flat out

1094
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: has to happen. Let's go to Jeff in Buffalo next.

1095
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 2: What do you got for us? Jeff? Jeff, are you there?

1096
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put Jeff on hold we'll come back to him.

1097
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 2: Next we go to Bob and Ken Moore. What do

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00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: you got for his Bob, Hey, guys, listen, a.

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Speaker 13: Little while ago you said that when it comes to

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00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 13: draft picks, they got Bean and McDermot collaborate, but push

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01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 13: comes to show. The final call is beans. Now, my

1102
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 13: question is what's the same, what's the dynamic, How does

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01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 13: the dynamic play out? And when push comes to shove,

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01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 13: who makes the final call when it comes to cuts,

1105
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 13: particularly at the end of the summer, the end of

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01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 13: training camp, Well.

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Speaker 1: Who do you think is on the field with the players?

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01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Brandon Bean is gonna listen to Sean McDermott

1109
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: and say, listen, I like this guy better than this

1110
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: guy because of A, B and C. I mean, all

1111
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 1: you got to do is give that make the case,

1112
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean's gonna say okay, And then not only

1113
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: will he make the case for having that guy released,

1114
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: he'll also make a case for why I want a

1115
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: guy that's different because of I want this, this and

1116
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: this characteristic in that guy. So Brandon Bean will go

1117
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: out and find that guy. So the cuts Brandon Bean

1118
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: is going to listen to in training camp, the coaching

1119
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: staff meets every single night, and they will have player reports.

1120
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: The guy will sit up a stand up and say, listen,

1121
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: all right, give me the list of your guy. Give

1122
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: me the guys how about you know. He'll start from

1123
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: the top and go all the way down through, and

1124
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: they'll give a list of why the guy's good, why

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01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: he's bad, the whole report about how the guy's practicing,

1126
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: his attitude, all the highlights of what that guy's doing

1127
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: in training camp, and that will be the report on

1128
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: that guy and that and so Brandon Bean is in

1129
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: all those meetings and he listens to the evaluation of

1130
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: all these guys that he has signed to contracts. He

1131
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: listens to the guys who are coaching him, tell him

1132
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: how good those guys are in our system, in our

1133
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: practice with our coaches and our teammates. And then the

1134
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: evaluation goes on from there, and it becomes obvious as

1135
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: training camp goes on, who's going to make it, who's not,

1136
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: and which guy they'd like to make it. Probably is

1137
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: not gonna make it, but they think he's got a

1138
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: chance to be really good later on, and we can

1139
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: hide him on the practice squad. Kind of guys, all

1140
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 1: those conversations. That's kind of the way it goes.

1141
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 2: So bottom line is, Brandon Bean makes the decision on

1142
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: the fifty three man roster, but it's with heavy consultation, daily,

1143
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 2: consultation daily with Sean McDermott. And this is why it's

1144
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: important for the long term success of an organization to

1145
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 2: have a GM and a head coach who are in

1146
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 2: lockstep with one another. When you start pulling people from

1147
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 2: different places, or one person is brought on before the other,

1148
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: sometimes that mesh between their two philosophies isn't always in sync.

1149
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 2: And that's why knowing that McDermott and Bean had a

1150
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 2: prior working relationship in Carolina made the merging of their

1151
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: two philosophies here so seamless. And it's why when you

1152
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: have a GM making those bottom line decisions on the

1153
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 2: fifty three man roster, it goes a lot more smooth

1154
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: than it would in a different dynamic between GM and

1155
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: head coach. But yes, GM makes the fifty three the

1156
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 2: coach decides who's up on game day during the season,

1157
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: but don't think that doesn't come with heavy consultation from

1158
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 2: the GM as well, because here I'm pretty confident it does.

1159
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 2: So yes, this guy is assigned to this, that guy's

1160
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 2: assigned to that, but it's not without cross talk every

1161
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 2: single day.

1162
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: They both see players the same way, like like, I

1163
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: want players. I want players that are this smart, this gutsy,

1164
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: this tough, this blah blah blah blah blah blah blah,

1165
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: the whole thing. And if if a great athlete, if

1166
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,919
Speaker 1: this outstanding athlete has this and this characteristic, I don't care.

1167
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: We don't want him kind of thing. You know, there

1168
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 1: are certain guys and they both see that the same way.

1169
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: So if Brandon, if Sean McDermot goes, how come we

1170
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: tell me about that guy? Why how's come he we

1171
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:43,959
Speaker 1: didn't draft him when we had the chance, And Brandon

1172
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: will say because he's an axe murderer, and Sean go,

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01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: I get it, thanks that kind of thing, right. I'm

1174
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm exaggerating obviously to make a point because he's got

1175
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: one of the things that you and I don't like

1176
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: in a player, and that you know, so that's white

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01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: did and draft him. I'm just being facetious, obviously.

1178
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: I hope every it's an interesting choice.

1179
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: Actually, yes, well there you go. That makes the point

1180
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: I think stronger than no pun intent, no pun intent.

1181
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and we go to

1182
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 2: Mitchell in Pittsburgh Nets. What's up, Mitchell, Hey, thanks for

1183
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 2: taking my call.

1184
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 14: Sure, So for offseason moves, I think a lot of

1185
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,479
Speaker 14: people are overlooking the fact that Tredavious White's probably gonna

1186
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 14: get cut after June. First, he saves us around six

1187
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 14: and a half million in cap, I think, and then

1188
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 14: because there's no way he's starting over Benford or Douglas

1189
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 14: unless we moved him to safety. But he's not starting,

1190
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 14: the salary's not worth it.

1191
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 12: And another thing is I.

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01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 14: Think it's possible. I was wondering if you guys think

1193
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 14: it as too, if I think Dawson Knox could get

1194
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 14: shot for a trade too to not be a starting

1195
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 14: tight end. I don't think he's worth the money and

1196
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 14: we're tight so I think it's really realistic that we

1197
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 14: do end up trading him because I think that's around

1198
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 14: eleven million in cap if we do trade him for

1199
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 14: next year. So I think I just want to hear

1200
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 14: you guys thoughts on that.

1201
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1202
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the first part of your comment is

1203
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 2: a possibility. I think they'd prefer to avoid it, but

1204
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 2: they would save six million, and maybe a lot of

1205
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: that has to do with how his health is coming

1206
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 2: along and his rehabilitation in the future of his playing career.

1207
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: The problem is they may not know that by mid

1208
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 2: March when they have to be cap compliant. So what

1209
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: are they doing. Are they going to sign him to

1210
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: a modest extension and spread his money out, try to

1211
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 2: give him more time, or do they make that very

1212
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 2: difficult decision because you're talking about a cornerstone player of

1213
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: the organization. As for Dawson Knox, I don't think trading

1214
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 2: him is an option here because he costs more to

1215
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: move him off your roster than it is to keep

1216
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 2: him on your roster four team point three million cap it.

1217
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 2: I agree with you, Mitchell, that is too high a

1218
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 2: price for a guy who's probably not going to be

1219
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 2: your number one tight end on the roster. The problem is,

1220
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 2: if you move him via trade or release him, it's

1221
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 2: twenty point two million on your cap, so it actually

1222
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 2: costs you almost seven million dollars more to get rid

1223
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 2: of him than it is to keep him. So I

1224
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 2: think the more likely scenario here is they add a

1225
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: year to his contract, spread out some of that money,

1226
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 2: or ask him to restructure or flat out take a

1227
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 2: pay cut. Don't think that's not optional either.

1228
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: They could restructure then trade him I guess, but I

1229
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: don't know how much that would help. That would help

1230
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: him next day.

1231
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,439
Speaker 2: You're going to jump through all those hoops anyway.

1232
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's true. They do have some work

1233
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: to do with the salary cap, no question about it.

1234
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 2: It's the familiar names.

1235
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: The top guys on the roster are Josh, Steph, Vaughn,

1236
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: Dion Tredavius, Dawson, Milano, and Tarren Johnson are the top

1237
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: seven guys. All of those guys have money that they

1238
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: could rework easily all the way down from top from

1239
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: Josh all the way down to Tarran and then behind

1240
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: Terran it's Mitch Morse. All of those guys are making

1241
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: eight figures. That means ten million or more. So you

1242
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: could work all of those those that money around and

1243
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: get a lot of cap space from Because here's the thing.

1244
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: If you're you're right now, if they're thinking may maybe

1245
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: Trey White is gonna get cut, that's different. But if

1246
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: all those guys are gonna be on the ones you pick,

1247
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: think are gonna be on the team, like Mitch Morse,

1248
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: Taron Johnson, Milano, uh Dion, Steph Josh, all of those guys,

1249
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna be on a team. So whatever off season

1250
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: bonuses and roster bonuses and making the team bonuses, you

1251
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: can give it to them, because they're gonna You're gonna

1252
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: give it to them anyway. If you give it to

1253
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: them now, you can spread it out over the life

1254
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: of their contract and take all that money off the cap,

1255
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: or whatever money you don't pay them this year off

1256
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: the cap. So that's what they're probably gonna do at

1257
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: some point, to some extent. But when you're talking about

1258
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: releasing guys, there's no way of us anticipating that.

1259
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 3: Now.

1260
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: As obvious as it may be to us, they may

1261
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: not be in that headspace trade. They might they may

1262
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: not be considering cutting Tray. They may want him back,

1263
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: and they may want him, they may want to move him.

1264
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 2: It's more complicated than a math equation for them, yeah,

1265
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 2: than it is for us just looking at the numbers.

1266
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 2: Let's go to ray j A in Buffalo next. What

1267
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 2: do you got first?

1268
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 3: Ray j.

1269
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 11: Have to know how you guys doing good good?

1270
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 3: Uh?

1271
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 11: I notice it's going to be a popular take, but

1272
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 11: My question is, how do you guys feel about possibly

1273
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 11: trading Dion Dwkins and seeing what his trade value is

1274
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 11: and uh taking advantage of maybe one of the more

1275
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 11: deeper parts of the draft this year, which is offensive

1276
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 11: tacked on the wide receiver.

1277
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1278
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I get what you're saying there, ray J,

1279
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 2: but I think you're you're creating a hole on your

1280
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 2: roster and adding to your list of needs. I think

1281
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 2: the easier solution there is to just sign Dion to

1282
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 2: a contract extension. He's only twenty nine years old, He's

1283
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 2: in the last year of his deal. He is a

1284
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 2: prime candidate in my estimation, for a contract extension, and

1285
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 2: then you can spread out the money whichever way helps

1286
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 2: you best. On your current cap you could have him

1287
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,719
Speaker 2: making instead of making nine point three in base salary

1288
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 2: and having a cap hit this year of sixteen point six.

1289
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 2: You could sign him to a contract extension, drop his

1290
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Speaker 2: base salary to like a million dollars and save yourself

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01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 2: a ton on the cap this year with an extension.

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01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 2: I think that's the more likely scenario.

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Speaker 1: Right, and you could if you do trade him. I

1294
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: want to know what you're getting. Are you getting a

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01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: one if you're getting a one. Listen, depends on who

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01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 1: it's from. If you're getting a one, and let me

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01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: just I will once again exaggerate to make my you know,

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Speaker 1: make my point. If you're gonna get a one and

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01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna get it from the New York Giants and

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Speaker 1: you move up to number six, okay, well I'll listen

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01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, you know. But it's a huge, huge

1302
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: gray area from moving inside the top ten of the

1303
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: NFL Draft to getting a third round pick at number

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01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: you know, eighty four. I mean, yeah, not so much.

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01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 2: I mean, you do save five million if you move

1306
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: him off your roster, but I think a contract extension.

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01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 2: You can find a way to save even more than

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01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 2: that via an extension. And he's still playing at a

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01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl level at age thirty, So in my mind,

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01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 2: I think the extension is what makes sense there. And

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01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 2: that's another cornerstone player on your roster. You don't just

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01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 2: want to toss him overboard because the money's not right,

1313
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 2: especially when you have a solution in the form of

1314
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 2: a contract extension to take care of it.

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01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: That's a big that's a I see the logic of it,

1316
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: but it depends on the compensation. I mean you certainly

1317
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: everybody is up for trades, professional sports, and all these

1318
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: guys are, you know, for lack of a better thing,

1319
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: they're cattle, right. I mean you're gonna that people are

1320
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: gonna offer you stuff for them. Well, some guys go

1321
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: far and above their value on a piece of paper.

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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, John and Buffalo, Jason and

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01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 2: Rhode Island. Gerald in Buffalo will get to you when

1324
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Speaker 2: we return. As we're asking you, where will the Bills

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01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 2: look most different in twenty twenty four? Your thoughts next

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Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, back here on One

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01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. You're gonna jump right back on the phones

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01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 2: as we're asking you where will the bill be most

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Speaker 2: different in twenty twenty four? Your thoughts are needed. At

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Speaker 2: eight O three five point fifty, we lead off with

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Speaker 2: John in Buffalo. What's up, John?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, thinking about the Bills for next season. I'm concerned

1334
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 15: about two players. One would be the status of a

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01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 15: keeam Heinz and the other one is Tomorrow Hamlin. I

1336
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 15: know he didn't dress for a bunch of games, and

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Speaker 15: I was just wondering what your thoughts are those two guys,

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01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 15: And one more little thing, what is the Bill's going

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01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 15: to have the Wall of Fame in the new stadium?

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01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 15: And I'll hang up and listen to your answer. I

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01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 15: appreciate it, guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure thing. John DeMar Hamlin's entering the last year

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01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 2: of his rookie contract. He was buried on the depth

1344
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 2: chart behind veterans. You know, Taylor Rapp came in. You

1345
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 2: already had Michae Hid and Jordan Poyer and Cam Lewis

1346
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 2: is a more versatile player on game day because he

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01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 2: is a gunner on special teams, can play nickel in

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01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 2: case tarn Johnson's injured, and can play safety. So because

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01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 2: of those reasons, Damar Hamlin was more often than not

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01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 2: on the game day in active list. He only played

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01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 2: in five games this season and was mostly on special teams.

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01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 2: He's gonna have an uphill battle again this year, although

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01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 2: the deck right now is a little bit cleared. Cam

1354
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 2: Lewis free agent, Taylor rap free agent, Michah Hyde free agent,

1355
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 2: So how many of them come back will largely determine

1356
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 2: his chance to get back on the field. Who was

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01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 2: the other player?

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Speaker 1: Nah?

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01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nahim Hines still rehabbing from his acl knee injury. Brandon,

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01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 2: being at the season ending press conference, said they do

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01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 2: want him on this roster, but there is another guy

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01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 2: who was a candidate for a salary restructure and can

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01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 2: save them money on the cap by doing so. And

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Speaker 2: knowing he wants to get his career started again after

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01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 2: an unfortunate jet skiing accident, I would think he might

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01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: be amenable to that. So he knows he's got a

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Speaker 2: job going into next fall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he got a feel for Naheim because he was

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01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: just sitting there idling, putting gas in his in his

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01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 1: Jed jet ski and somebody ran into him. Yeah, he

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01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: was just sitting there. Yeah, it's just it's unfortunate. Yeah,

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01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So he loses a year of his

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01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 1: career because of it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And as for the Wall of Fame, it's our understanding

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01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 2: it will live in the new stadium in some iteration.

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01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going to look exactly the same.

1378
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 2: The configuration of the stadium is probably going to have

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01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 2: something to do with that, but I think it will

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01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 2: be properly transported in some way, shape or form to

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01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 2: recognize the people that are up on that wall like

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Speaker 2: this guy to my left. Let's go to Jason in

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01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 2: Rhode Island. What's up Jason.

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Speaker 16: Hey, Chris, Steve, thanks for taking my call. Sure, first

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01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 16: answer your question. It seems like defensive line is a

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01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 16: good candidate for the biggest turnover, knowing the way they

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01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 16: like to go take guys in and out. And Chris,

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01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 16: I think you said only four out of twelve of

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01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 16: the guys. Yeah, that we're on the roster this year,

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01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 16: under contract the next year, but correct. What I really

1391
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 16: wanted to call about was a previous caller called to

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01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 16: say that he was most winning by special teams, and

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Speaker 16: I was hoping Steve might shed a little light on

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Speaker 16: how the injuries may have played a part in that.

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01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 16: I don't think people understand how hard it is to

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01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 16: go out there and play, you know, a bunch of

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01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 16: plays on defense and then have to chase down a

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01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 16: guy on three or four punts. So it seems like

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Speaker 16: that may have played a part in it. And then

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Speaker 16: maybe even on the Denver game, seemed like maybe there

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01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 16: was some confusion wonderd Floyd didn't know if he was

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01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 16: still in or out for somebody that may.

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Speaker 9: Have been hurt.

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01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 16: So I'm hopeful that if they can get the injuries

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01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 16: under control that maybe that'll help that situation as well.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Jason, Yeah, you're right, defensive line is going to

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01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 1: look very different. We were talking earlier about the special teams.

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01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 1: One of the things people don't realize it the and

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01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 1: if you and I hate to say it like this,

1410
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: but the top of your roster, bottom of your roster,

1411
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: and then between the bottom of your roster and the

1412
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 1: guys that are on the field all the time are

1413
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: the guys that play special teams, professional special teams players.

1414
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: They're they're backups of the regular down and distance players.

1415
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 1: They're backup linebackers, backup safeties, backup DB's, backup tight ends,

1416
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: backup White, whatever, and they but they're what they really

1417
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 1: do is they're professional special teams guys. So you can

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01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: imagine they're the guys that back up the guys that

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01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 1: are on the field. Now, when guys on the field

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01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 1: like man Milano, like Poyer, Hide Tredevious White, when all

1421
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 1: those guys start going down, when Da Kwan Jones all

1422
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 1: of that stuff, when those guys start going down, well,

1423
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: those guys that have been playing all these special teams

1424
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: move up. It's just the way it is. They're the

1425
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: next guy in, right, so we say next man up.

1426
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: The problem is, now you've got guys off the street

1427
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,440
Speaker 1: who you're trying to find the best safety, backup linebacker,

1428
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 1: backup corner, backup tight end. You're trying to find the

1429
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: best one of those. Those guys may or may not

1430
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: have any experience covering kicks, but they're covering kicks because

1431
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 1: everybody else is playing down or distance. So when a

1432
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: team has is deep, like the Bills were at the

1433
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: beginning of the year, they can kind of hang in

1434
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: there defensively and offensively but with because they got quality

1435
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: backups and all that. But as those injuries take more,

1436
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: the place it shows is special teams because now you've

1437
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: got Tommy schmeg malhoyten and Billy bagg of Donuts covering

1438
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: kicks for you who were washing cars and doing dishes

1439
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 1: last week. I'm exaggerating again, but that's it. So the

1440
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 1: the injuries to teams usually show themselves at least whether

1441
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: they show or not is one thing, but they're usually

1442
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 1: felt on the roster on special teams first, particularly on

1443
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: a team like the Bills, who are deep and have

1444
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: a lot of talent. Behind their frontline guys. But when

1445
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 1: those guys move up to place offensive defense, now you

1446
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: got to have different guys covering kicks, and those of

1447
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: the guys where it shows up. There's where your defensive

1448
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 1: injuries show up. You can't cover kicks, you can't cover punch,

1449
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: you can't protect for field goals, you can't protect your punter,

1450
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 1: you can't cover a punt, you can't tackle anybody all

1451
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 1: of a sudden because you got these guys that aren't

1452
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 1: good special teams players, but they were the best defensive

1453
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 1: back available. That's how sometimes that manifests itself.

1454
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 2: Let's move on to Gerald in Buffalo. What do you

1455
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 2: go for is Gerald? You're on one Bill's Live.

1456
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 9: Hey, Chris A Steve, I'm a guy hired Bill's fan

1457
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 9: and just to say you should be in the Hall

1458
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 9: of Fame. I don't know what they waiting on, but

1459
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 9: two things.

1460
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 5: I know.

1461
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 9: We play zone, But do you think the Bills should

1462
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 9: go to the bump and run, especially when we plan

1463
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 9: against a team like Kansas City that's got a superstar

1464
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 9: tight end in a quarterback that play bump and run

1465
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 9: off the line and on the other side of the ball,

1466
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 9: do you think the Bill should go to a hurry

1467
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 9: up offense with all the weapons that we have on

1468
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 9: offense and run some type of audible. I don't think

1469
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 9: they run audible. It's a lot when they get to

1470
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 9: the line. I don't know if it's the personnel or

1471
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 9: just the way that they run the offense, but yeah, I.

1472
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Speaker 2: Mean, I will say they run a lot of the

1473
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 2: RPO game Gerald, where you know, Josh has the run

1474
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 2: play in a pass play to choose from based on

1475
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 2: what the defensive look is. So very often he's going

1476
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage with two plays at his disposal,

1477
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 2: So that kind of serves as a built in audible

1478
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 2: if you will. Yeah, And a lot of times you'll

1479
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 2: hear him come up to the line when he's standing

1480
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 2: back there in shotgun and go kill, kill, kill, which

1481
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 2: means he's killing the first play and going to the

1482
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 2: second one. So there are a lot of built in

1483
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 2: audibles with you know, the RPO game, which the Bills

1484
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 2: run a good deal of. That's first. As for no huddle,

1485
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,879
Speaker 2: Steve and I have talked about this several times. Steve's

1486
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: team was very successful doing that back in the nineties.

1487
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 2: That was thirty years ago. Sorry, it's been a bit.

1488
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 2: The game has changed, and when you go that fast,

1489
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 2: you have to simplify your offense, and defenses are too

1490
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 2: sophisticated these days. They would get a beat on what

1491
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 2: you're running, even at a high rate of speed because

1492
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 2: your menus reduced, and once they get a handle on that,

1493
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 2: they can defend you more effectively. And as a matter

1494
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 2: of fact, we saw that in Week eight Bills against

1495
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 2: the Bucks here at the stadium. The Bills were so

1496
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 2: desperate to find something to establish a rhythm on offense,

1497
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 2: they went no huddle from the jump, and those first

1498
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 2: couple of.

1499
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: Series it worked.

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01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 2: The first two or three possessions. I think they came

1501
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 2: away with ten points. They finally had a lead early

1502
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 2: in a football game, which they did not have for

1503
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 2: the past four the previous four games. But by the

1504
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 2: end of the game, what happened The Bucks defense caught

1505
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 2: up to them and they held them scoreless for like

1506
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,919
Speaker 2: six of their last seven possessions, which is an example

1507
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 2: of what would happen if you ran that every week.

1508
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: I think the more obvious play nowadays is what they

1509
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 2: call tempo. You jump into an uptempo mode in the

1510
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 2: middle of a ses. You get a personnel grouping alike

1511
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 2: on defense. Bang, we're gonna jump into up tempo. Keep

1512
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 2: that unit on the field. We're gonna go fast. We

1513
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 2: can get on the ball fast so they can't substitute.

1514
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 2: And now we have them in an advantageous personnel grouping

1515
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 2: where we can take advantage of that. Whether it's they

1516
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 2: got little people on the field and we can run

1517
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 2: it at him, or they got big people on the

1518
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 2: field and we can throw it against them because they

1519
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 2: can't cover. That's the way you use uptempo football nowadays, right.

1520
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: And the reason you don't go no huddled as well

1521
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 1: is in this zone and bump and run defense and

1522
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: all that this, they'll go up and run the plane.

1523
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 1: They will audible a lot of times. They don't have

1524
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: to audible because the only question is are they playing

1525
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: zone or man? Now they may try if they try,

1526
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: And that's why the quarterback will give a fake count,

1527
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 1: and then after the fake count, he'll get an idea

1528
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 1: of somebody's coming and he'll say, Okay, this is the

1529
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 1: guy that's coming. Here's we'll set our protection. And then

1530
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 1: they've got it protected. Now they've got answers in the

1531
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: back end of the defense where they can take advantage

1532
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 1: of it. And that's what that's the way offenses operate.

1533
01:21:59,560 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 5: Now.

1534
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 1: They'd find out about the defense at the line of scrimmage,

1535
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 1: which means they don't snap it fast. They find out

1536
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 1: about the defense, and they know where their answer. If

1537
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 1: they're gonna go cover two, they got this answer. If

1538
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: they're going Cover three, they got that answer. If they're

1539
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: going man to man, they have another answer. The offense

1540
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: is built to have answers no matter what the defense does,

1541
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: if you know what's coming. And that's why you see

1542
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks tinker with the cadence so often in the NFL,

1543
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,879
Speaker 1: and they use motion to find something out about the defense.

1544
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 1: So if the offense knows what's coming, defensively, they got you.

1545
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1546
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 2: And as for the defense, you know, are they based

1547
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 2: on zone principles, Yes, they don't play exclusively zone. As

1548
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, Sean McDermott played almost everything under

1549
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 2: the sun this season because he was so shorthanded due

1550
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 2: to injury. I mean, he played cover zero. They did

1551
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 2: play some press man, I mean they everything under the sun.

1552
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 2: He called this year because he had to. He had

1553
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 2: to try to find a way to scheme more aut

1554
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 2: it the defense with less personnel. Now, what's it going

1555
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,600
Speaker 2: to look like next year. Is Bobby Babbage calling it,

1556
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 2: Is Sean McDermott calling it. We don't know yet. So

1557
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 2: that's something that's yet to be determined, and we'll have

1558
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 2: to wait and see what that looks like this coming season.

1559
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 2: But I think we can safely say that it will

1560
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 2: be the more aggressive style that we saw from Sean

1561
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,799
Speaker 2: McDermott this past year in terms of calling this defense

1562
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 2: than what we saw in previous years with Lesley Fraser.

1563
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 2: It was effective in a different way, and I think

1564
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott wanted his defense to be more aggressive, create

1565
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 2: more splash plays, and so as a result, you did

1566
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 2: see more man coverage from them this year, and you

1567
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 2: know that has its pluses.

1568
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 1: In mynsses too, I was really really happy with the

1569
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: way the defense played this year with Sean McDermott, even

1570
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 1: despite what you could see behind the injuries. I thought

1571
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 1: they picked their spots for pressures exactly right. I thought

1572
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 1: they had more obviously more splash plays. And another reason

1573
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: I liked it was because it's exactly what you and

1574
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 1: I said they were gonna do all through the last offseasons,

1575
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: exactly what you and I thought the defense might change,

1576
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 1: how it might change, they might more splash.

1577
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 2: Plays, finish Top five and takeaways in top five and sex.

1578
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mark in Rochester next. What's that Mark?

1579
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 17: Hey, guys, real quick, this is the little off subject

1580
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 17: of today's show. But yesterday I get to listen to

1581
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 17: you guys for about the last half hour of your show.

1582
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 17: And yesterday you guys had a caller. It was an

1583
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,759
Speaker 17: older guy, and he was talking about the Bills offensive

1584
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 17: line and how they couldn't protect Josh and listening to him,

1585
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 17: I'm yelling at the radio saying they were probably one

1586
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 17: of the best offensive lines we've had in years.

1587
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1588
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 17: He kept on reiterating the point that, you know, people

1589
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 17: couldn't pick up that extra blitzer or whatever, and he

1590
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 17: said he hadn't seen anybody pick up that extra blitzer

1591
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 17: other than Cookie Gochris was the best he's ever seen.

1592
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 17: And Steve correct me if I'm wrong. But there was

1593
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 17: a guy in the early nineties I'm pretty sure you

1594
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 17: played with them that were number thirty four that was

1595
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:07,560
Speaker 17: really really good at that.

1596
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, people see what they want, and I'm not

1597
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 1: gonna disparage what the guy said, he sees what he said,

1598
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: he thinks what he thinks. And there's no question Cookie

1599
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 1: Gilchris was a phenomenal player, no question that gifted. But yeah,

1600
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: we explained I thought yesterday after the call, why we

1601
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 1: respectfully didn't agree with everything the guy said anything else, Mark, Now.

1602
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 2: I think that was his point, and yeah, yeah, I

1603
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 2: mean right after you know, the guy hung up. I

1604
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 2: pointed out that the Bills led the league in sack

1605
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: percentage allowed, led the league. I mean, and we've had

1606
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 2: fans call and say this, I share the opinion. I

1607
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 2: think it was the best offensive line the Bills have

1608
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 2: had in the McDermott era. Yes, left to right, you know,

1609
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 2: the most consistent play we've seen out of them, and

1610
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 2: that's that's with a rookie at right guard, you know,

1611
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 2: and a player in Spencer Brown that was looking for

1612
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,879
Speaker 2: redemption and had his best season in a Bill's uniform

1613
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 2: last year. So it really came to and Connor McGovern

1614
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 2: as an addition, was fantastic. I mean, it's the best

1615
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 2: offensive line I think they've had left to right since

1616
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 2: McDermott became.

1617
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 1: And they've coach they played like it. I thought, you know,

1618
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 1: I yes, And if you're worried about an extra rusher

1619
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 1: coming in, if they send more guys than you have blockers,

1620
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 1: you can't block every nobody's gonna block two guys unless

1621
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: they get lucky. So if there's an extra rusher, that's

1622
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 1: what it is, an extra rusher that's on Josh, and

1623
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator to pick that up. Move the protection

1624
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 1: to where you have the least the least threatening guy

1625
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: is the one you don't block. And they're good enough

1626
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,600
Speaker 1: up front to slide one way or the other or

1627
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 1: make a zone call as to pick up everybody except

1628
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 1: the furthest guy away or the guy that's the least dangerous.

1629
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 1: They have that ability and they did that very well

1630
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: this year. And then if they do get to Josh,

1631
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,480
Speaker 1: if you have a free rusher, that's on Josh, he's

1632
01:26:58,479 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 1: got to get rid of the football and it's got

1633
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 1: to have answer in the passing game for him to

1634
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 1: do that.

1635
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 2: Break time for us here. We'll get some final thoughts

1636
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet when we return here on One

1637
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Stay tuned all right back here on one

1638
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 2: Bills Live. Where will the Bills look most different in

1639
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four to the tweet sheet we Go, brought

1640
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 2: to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving

1641
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 2: company of the Buffalo Bills. Mickey says the whole team

1642
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 2: will look different. Least amount of change will probably be

1643
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 2: the old line. That's a good guess because they are

1644
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 2: all under contract for next year. Matthew says they will

1645
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 2: look most different in age. They will let a lot

1646
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 2: of expiring contracts go of aging players and allow younger

1647
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 2: talent to take over. Roberts says defense just because of

1648
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 2: all the holes they may have. Ess says wide receiver room.

1649
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 2: Hopefully Buffalo guy and since he says the secondary seems

1650
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 2: like the obvious choice, that's kind of where I was

1651
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 2: coming from. And Dagger says defensive line will have a

1652
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 2: complete overhaul. Aside from Ed Andrew. So, as we mentioned,

1653
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 2: only four of twelve on the roster in twenty twenty

1654
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 2: three on the defensive line are under contract for twenty

1655
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 2: twenty four.

1656
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still on the von Miller train.

1657
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 2: I still think he's got a lot of football at

1658
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 2: that's cost prohibitive to move on from anyway.

1659
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 1: Plus, here's the thing that I'm fearful of if he

1660
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 1: comes back and he has a great training camera, I

1661
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 1: don't at his age, injury becomes a real concern going forward.

1662
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 1: They have a hard time. We have a hard time

1663
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: staying healthy when you get to your mid thirties, which

1664
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: is where von Miller is. That's why you know, pull

1665
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:47,799
Speaker 1: or hide. All these guys have a hard time staying

1666
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 1: on the field because their age prohibits it because of injuries.

1667
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: Young guys seem to stay healthier, and heavy guys seem

1668
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 1: to stay healthier. So yeah, you know when you've got

1669
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 1: a fast light team, you get banged up too much.

1670
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 1: Well yeah, let me just generalize completely and say.

1671
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 2: Yeah that do you want to do? Say something else?

1672
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 2: Hyperbolic today?

1673
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 1: To to my point, I've made a lot of points

1674
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 1: as crystal clear as I can possible.

1675
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 2: I'm exaggerating to make a point. Well, they need to

1676
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 2: get that on a T shirt. That's right, we already

1677
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 2: have you need to play well on that day on

1678
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 2: a shirt. Maybe that could be second in line. Yeah,

1679
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 2: we gotta have to get a whole T shirt line

1680
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 2: of tasker isms. That would be I think that's a

1681
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 2: tasty business idea. That's how it's gonna go well, that's

1682
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 2: how it's gonna be. That's how it's gonna be. Yeah,

1683
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 2: that's how it's going. We're back tomorrow with obl Friday

1684
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 2: Fan Mailbag. We'll see it.

1685
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Speaker 6: What