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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we never doubted Jake Brownie

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Speaker 1: or Dan Campbell or any.

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Speaker 2: Other people that got off the mat in.

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Speaker 1: Week two and helped their team to a much needed victory.

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Speaker 1: I am Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling podcast

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Speaker 1: studio with my friends Patrick Clayband and Jordan rod reeg.

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Speaker 1: Nick Schook will be joining us with some bangers later

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Speaker 1: in the show, but for now, it's the three of us.

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Speaker 2: Let's go united.

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Speaker 1: Jordan's first full day here in the NFL Network facilities.

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Speaker 2: You did a show this morning. You were next to

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Speaker 2: me all.

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Speaker 3: Day, like, yeah, let me tell you guys what that

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Speaker 3: was like off air?

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Speaker 4: Okay, it was fine, was what was it sitting next

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Speaker 4: to Greg?

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Speaker 2: I'm you're just like part of your part of the

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Speaker 2: machine now.

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Speaker 3: And at one point Greg came over to my little

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Speaker 3: cubby area and it's a standing desk and you can automate. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and he just decided, you know what, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: raise Jordan's desk while she's sitting down.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just wanted to see if it worked.

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Speaker 5: Into a standing desk like.

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Speaker 2: One inch one inch I mentioned Jake Browning.

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Speaker 1: I think that's weirdly where we have to start because

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Speaker 1: of the news and because of the quality of play.

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Speaker 1: Like Nick Westling on Sunday, Let's go to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Jake Browning will be under center.

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Speaker 6: Chase brown lines up behind how.

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Speaker 7: Sample goes behind the quarterback and shoves him.

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Speaker 6: It's a touchdown.

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Speaker 8: Shake Browning with eighteen seconds left and regulation has given

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Speaker 8: the Bengals their first lead all day.

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Speaker 5: Dirty dancing style that line them up.

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Speaker 2: Dan Horde and Dave lap them in the back room.

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Speaker 1: W c K. Why yes, Jake Browning has to come

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Speaker 1: in unfortunate for an injured Joe Burrow early in that game,

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Speaker 1: and through some picks, he also led the Bengals on

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Speaker 1: a game winning drive thirty one to twenty seven over

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars to get to two and zero. Patrick they

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Speaker 1: talked all off season about avoiding a bad start in it.

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Speaker 1: In both of these games out that at points it

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Speaker 1: felt like, man, they're having a bad start and the

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow injury is an issue.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that, but they are too and oh yeah.

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Speaker 9: The conversation about wins being a quarterback stat is hilarious.

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Speaker 9: Wins are a coaching stat and Zach Taylor had never

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Speaker 9: started two and oh this entire Bengals tenure, and by

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Speaker 9: the grace of the universe itself, somehow this team is

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Speaker 9: two and oh because you wondered what would be the

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Speaker 9: tendency breaker Liam Cohen's Jags or are they Are they

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Speaker 9: going to get past this Jags attitude of the past

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Speaker 9: where litany of errors causes them to lose a game

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Speaker 9: that they.

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Speaker 6: Should have won. No, not today.

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Speaker 9: They start things off with a nine play sixty nine

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Speaker 9: yard drive. Again, They're using Diamie Brown early on Brian

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Speaker 9: Thomas Jr. They both had eighteen yard receptions, and then

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Speaker 9: the defense comes out. They sacked Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow's

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Speaker 9: oh of one. They get the ball back. They go

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Speaker 9: on at eight play sixty four yard drive and then

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Speaker 9: Trevor Lawrence throws an inexplicable end zone interception and then

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Speaker 9: a Burrow comes back. They ultimately get a drive and

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Speaker 9: a touchdown the injury, which the NFL network consider. Ian

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Speaker 9: Rappaport says, it's turf toe, which is something for us

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Speaker 9: to watch because they have the Broncos, the Vikings, the Packers,

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Speaker 9: and the Lions in their next four games. So wow,

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Speaker 9: good for them for starting two and zero. Baseiel touton

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Speaker 9: looked good, but they were weird like miscommunications. The broadcast says,

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Speaker 9: Brian Thomas Junior, short armed ball across the middle. That

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Speaker 9: was ultimately an interception for Trevor Lawrence, which was another

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Speaker 9: turnover the Jacks could have taken advantage on it.

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Speaker 6: It was a rough one.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to Liam Cohen. Brian Thomas Junior twelve targets

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Speaker 1: most inefficient plays in football through two weeks have been

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Speaker 1: passes to Brian Thomas Junior. He was asked Cohen, whether

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Speaker 1: you know Thomas was short army in that past.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we gotta I gotta go watch it, you know,

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Speaker 10: and just go go figure out what the you know

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Speaker 10: was all about and what it looked like.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I gotta go that.

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Speaker 1: We've talked Jordan about Liam Cohen maybe giving too much

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Speaker 3: Like shoot on his lip. He chewed on his own

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Speaker 1: He wears his emotions on his sleeve. When you saw

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Speaker 1: He had such a look of like disappointment and like,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I have to do this right now.

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Speaker 1: These are two guys that once worked together. And then

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Speaker 1: there was another sequence where if you're watching us on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence kind of waves him off and turns

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Speaker 1: his back, and these things happened. This was after a

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Speaker 1: misthrow when they're up third and fourteen with about three

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Speaker 1: and a lot of mistakes. Patrick, I guess we will

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Speaker 1: get to the Bengals side of it, but it did

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Speaker 1: feel like it was a game where the Jacksonville Jaguars

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and we can celebrate Jake Browning kind of what

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Speaker 9: feels like being shoved in the end zone against his

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Speaker 9: that sample push.

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Speaker 6: In the back. But there were turnovers by Jake Browning.

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Speaker 9: When guard got one almost took it all the way

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Speaker 9: back to the house, put the Jags in solid position,

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Speaker 9: they did nothing with it. In the worst one, there

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Speaker 9: was a Lloyd interception of Jake Browning inside of four

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Speaker 9: minutes ago in the ball game that should have been backbreaking.

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Speaker 9: They get to fourth and five inside the t yard line,

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Speaker 9: they run across to Brian Thomas Jr. Instead of kicking

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Speaker 6: I don't know, and who.

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Speaker 9: Knows if he would have gotten it if he had

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Speaker 9: caught the ball, but he had a pretty nasty drop.

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Speaker 9: It was maximum Jags, including the final drive for Jake Browning.

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Speaker 9: There was a defensive pass interference call on Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 9: I don't think it was defensive pass interference. Off lobby

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Speaker 9: for years that this should be reviewable. The NFL allegedly

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Speaker 9: tried it was a false flag. They never intended to

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Speaker 9: make pass interference reviewable. And and Travis Hunter gets dinged

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Speaker 9: on what it was one of the plays that costs

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tough.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, I think back to earlier in this

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Speaker 3: same week that we're still currently in and Zach Brown

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Speaker 3: his press conference comments. And I'm like thinking, I'm like, okay, man, but.

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Speaker 5: At what cost? Right? Because that is a tough injury.

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Speaker 3: Jake Browning is a solid backup quarterback. A couple of

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Speaker 3: the local writers there, we're talking back and forth with

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Speaker 3: comments about Okay, well, why does it looks why does

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Speaker 3: it look like you know, there are functional plays happening

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Speaker 5: Why does it look so hard for Joe Burrow? Sometimes?

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Speaker 3: And it's like, well, you got to call around the

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Speaker 3: player that you have, and that's part of what the

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Speaker 3: issue moving forward will be. We don't know how long

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is going to be out, but it's kind

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Speaker 3: of like, Okay, yeah, you know you got your two

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Speaker 3: and zero at what cost? And you know you're gonna

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Speaker 3: have to change your entire game plan around this guy. Now.

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Speaker 1: I think it's important though, because this part of the

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Speaker 1: season to me, is just about managing like your win losses,

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Speaker 1: managing the schedule. The stuff that really matters for Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: is coming up. It's obviously devastating you lose Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: and you're going to be just trying to get a winner.

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Speaker 1: Two in these Jake Browning starts, however many there are

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Speaker 1: turf too. Is such an unpredictable injury. I asked, you know,

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Speaker 1: our friend Nick Westling, who was at the game, like

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Speaker 1: if he had any takeaways, and he was like, don't

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Speaker 1: do the thing where you give the Bengals too much credit.

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Speaker 1: The biggest you know, the factor in this game, Like

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Speaker 1: drop passes were the difference and they were getting beat

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Speaker 1: and outplayed when Joe Burrow was in the game. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: the sequence of these drops was brutal. In the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter alone, Dammy Brown drops a touchdown, Brian Thomas Junior

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Speaker 1: my guy Travis Hunner, who's definitely having a tough start

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Speaker 1: to the season, draws or called for a long pass

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Speaker 1: interference on a fourth down on the game winning drive

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Speaker 1: for the Bengals. I think it was a good call,

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Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't absolutely clear, but it wasn't a call

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Speaker 1: with pass interference. I always feel like, unless it's really

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Speaker 1: to make a big deal out of it, and they

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Speaker 1: called him for pass interference and yeah, just a lot

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Speaker 1: of jagging going on. Let's actually listen to Liam Cohen

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Speaker 1: also asked about that fourth down decision.

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Speaker 5: Why the decision to go for it?

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Speaker 12: It's a hundred percent ago. It's one hundred percent ago

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Speaker 12: in all analytics and all data, it's one hundred percent ago.

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Speaker 1: but it seems like such. I the reason that you

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Speaker 1: you still have to make them kick a field goal

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Speaker 1: basically either way, and if you go up six, they're

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Speaker 1: more likely to go for the touchdown. And Jason Garrett's

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Speaker 1: on NBC sing like he thought it was a really

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Speaker 1: bad decision because you got to force the backup quarterback

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Speaker 1: to go score a touchdown. Well what did they do?

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Speaker 1: They went and scored a touchdown. That to me, actually

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Speaker 1: is why you go for it. You have multiple chances

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Speaker 1: to win the game. You trust your franchise quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: then you trust your defense, and they couldn't stop them.

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Speaker 2: They gave up a touchdown. You disagree, Patrick, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: It's it's one hundred percent of kick.

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Speaker 9: To me, on fourth and five fourth and two, I understand,

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Speaker 9: but it was five yards to the to the extent

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Speaker 9: that Brian Thomas Junior never even got across the line

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Speaker 9: of game in the first place to catch the ball

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Speaker 9: in that situation where the Bengals were sitting there and waiting.

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Speaker 9: But there are so many plays other than that one.

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Speaker 6: It was. It was a collection of failures that led

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Speaker 6: to this Jags loss. And we'll see if they can.

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Speaker 9: Kind of summon some positives out of the pass rush

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Speaker 9: look great, And I do think there may be something

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Speaker 9: to this Browning t Higgins situation. I don't know if

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Speaker 9: the we'll call them fluffy passes that Jake Browning throws

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Speaker 9: kind of suit tease I a little bit more, but

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Speaker 9: he goes up in mosses two defenders and then runs

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Speaker 9: them over for a long touchdown.

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Speaker 6: Or maybe in fantasy world the t Higgins shares.

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Speaker 1: I think he is the best contested catch like go

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Speaker 1: pluck the ball in the air away from your body

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Speaker 1: guy in the entire NFL. So maybe like a soft

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Speaker 5: We've all mentioned it at different times.

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Speaker 5: Coverage as well.

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Speaker 3: To me, that looked like him saying, put it right

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Speaker 3: So I think that that's the thing you can hear

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Speaker 1: Right now, it's always been Trevor's problem, and he had

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Speaker 2: He's always not been the most accurate.

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Speaker 6: It's like yelling at the goud make your free throw.

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Speaker 1: So the Bengals get out of there with the victory

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Speaker 13: Today, now there's motion on the other side of the field.

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Speaker 14: Un hunts back, goes Mahomes, he fires.

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Speaker 13: It's intercept them on a deflection. There's the turnover intercept

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Speaker 13: them by mccuba down the fourth side Liney goes all

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Speaker 6: What a big play that was.

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Speaker 1: Merril Reese and Mike Quick on WIP. It did change

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Speaker 1: the game. Dramatically. It's pretty rare that we go with

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Speaker 1: that was the kind of game that the Eagles and

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Speaker 1: a lot of coaching decisions. Twenty to seventeen. The Eagles

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Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs, and yes, Travis Kelce who made some

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Speaker 1: great plays today, many of which were right on Andrew

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Speaker 1: Partly because the Chiefs have such a small margin for

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Speaker 1: have to capitalize. And what we saw today, Jordan, I

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Speaker 1: And the Chiefs did make those sort of mistakes today.

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Speaker 3: And I will tell you coaches who play against this,

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Speaker 3: I don't think we worry about that so much. With

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Speaker 3: This was death by a thousand paper cuts, and that

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Speaker 5: I'm like, why just get off the field.

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Speaker 3: But really what it is is you want that psychological

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Speaker 5: That is what happened here today.

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Speaker 1: I think the blitz really tells a lot about this game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Chiefs asta game at home, down by

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Speaker 2: Neither of these teams top three hundred yards.

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Speaker 3: I for fourteen on third down for the Eagles, four

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Speaker 2: And it is incredible.

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Speaker 1: Although they you know, they did pick up a couple

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Speaker 1: I found really interesting was was the battle of the blitzer.

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Speaker 2: This time he sent a lot.

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Speaker 1: And Patrick Mahomes ends up going three for ten with

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and we're on the other side.

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Speaker 9: It put Spags's defense at a very tough position because

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Speaker 9: Sam exact situation iscept DeVante Smith makes the catch and

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Speaker 9: like Saquon had a decent game, and just like with

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Speaker 1: Yeah you can't, you know if they want to keep losing. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: It's really striking on on both sides of the ball

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Speaker 5: That was a total shock.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously it was a bang bang play to

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Speaker 3: and the discrepancy of it was Jalen Hurts on forty

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Speaker 5: He had all day to sit back.

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Speaker 3: schematically as the coordinator, as a point where it's not

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Speaker 2: And yet it was extremely effective.

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Speaker 1: Like if they won this game because the offense played better,

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Speaker 2: I didn't hate that he went for it.

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Speaker 1: you know, panicking yet about this Kansas City.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they'll be fine Chief's team.

441
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Speaker 5: But your rushing point on he's already bracing him.

442
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: Your rushing point on Mahomes is well said he had

443
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 1: a career high in rushing yards in the second quarter

444
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,919
Speaker 1: already of this game. The fact that he's had to

445
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 1: run so much in both of these games is not

446
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 1: a good sign. Let's go to Detroit. So this is

447
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: kind of the revenge portion of the program. You know,

448
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,360
Speaker 1: the Chiefs did not get their revenge. Could the Lions

449
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: get their revenge on Ben Johnson for flying the coop turncoat?

450
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 15: Twenty one seconds to go, first down for the Lions.

451
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 15: Golf's got it back loss right side wants.

452
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 2: Tesla does he make one hand catch?

453
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Speaker 1: Oh go tell me he did that, ol rookie, you

454
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: are something else.

455
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 2: As he slides out of bounds with the.

456
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Speaker 15: Three yard line, here we go, six seconds remaining. Lions

457
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 15: come to the line. The clock is not moving. It'll

458
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 15: start on the snap. They'll get one shot at the

459
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Speaker 15: end zone before they send the field goal unit out.

460
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Speaker 6: Golf works out of the gun.

461
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Speaker 15: There's the snap, Jared back, Jared looking pros.

462
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 2: And cot touchdown. Detroit Lions I'm and Ross State Crown.

463
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Speaker 6: I see you.

464
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Speaker 2: Oh that is so big.

465
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Speaker 16: The rookie negs the Cats, that sets up the Lions

466
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Speaker 16: for the touchdown, and it's the federal nomen raw who

467
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Speaker 16: makes the graft for the score.

468
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Speaker 1: Oh, that is a great call from Dan Miller on

469
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Speaker 1: wx YT.

470
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Speaker 2: Usually we go for one play highlights.

471
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Speaker 1: But when we got our guy, Isaac to Slah making

472
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Speaker 1: the greatest catch in NFL history if it had happened

473
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Speaker 1: in the seventies or eighties, to set up a touchdown

474
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Speaker 1: with four seconds left in the half, We're going to

475
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Speaker 1: play highlight. Fifty two to twenty one. Man Dan Campbell

476
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Speaker 1: was enjoying the hell out of this win. Late a

477
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: fifty burger on the Bears Jordan. In a game that

478
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Speaker 1: early it looked like, yeah, it was gonna be a

479
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: lot of fun, and late it just felt like a

480
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: lot of Bears games over the last five years.

481
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Speaker 3: Uh, someone's gonna fact check me this if I'm wrong,

482
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 3: But I believe that's Isaac Teslaw's second career NFL catch ever.

483
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 3: And remember the first one was also insane, but in

484
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: a loss, so we don't really talk about it so much.

485
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 2: So that we've talked about it like four times. It

486
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: was only last week.

487
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 5: Jay does is trick shots. He's trick shots only.

488
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 2: He's literally two for two. That's it.

489
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Speaker 3: Yes, And so this was super interesting because so they

490
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 3: only needed four seconds to get that amon Ra Saint

491
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Speaker 3: Brown touchdown to put the game up twenty eight to

492
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 3: fourteen at half and kind of broke Chicago's back in

493
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 3: this sequence. At first, there was a little confusion because

494
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 3: the clock the officials let the clock run out, which

495
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 3: was super confusing for Jared Goff first of all, because

496
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: the referee was still in the middle of the scrum

497
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: placing the ball as the clock ran out. The clock

498
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 3: official and the sideline official were not on the same page. Finally,

499
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 3: they got all of that fixed. Then there was a

500
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Speaker 3: ruled the catches ruled in bounds, which means they needed

501
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Speaker 3: a ten second run off. Anyway, I won't bore you

502
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Speaker 3: with all the details. They only needed six seconds. Four

503
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: of the six seconds to ultimately really put this game

504
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: away in terms of the Chicago Bears. The Bears, it

505
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 3: didn't always have to be this way. It didn't start

506
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 3: this way. Once again, the Bears looked really solid on

507
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 3: their opening script touchdown Caleb Williams next four possessions were

508
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 3: a punt, a fumble Brian Branch hit DeAndre Swift so

509
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: hard that his mouthguard popped out, then a turnover on downs,

510
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 3: then an interception. This was not a great decision, a

511
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: pretty bad interception that sort of just started to spiral

512
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 3: everything a little bit out of control for the Bears.

513
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 3: It all sort of convalesced into one thing. He was

514
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 3: on the movie's working out a structure of avoiding pressure

515
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: from the Lions front, and then he tried to make

516
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 3: something happen down the field. The receiver he wanted had

517
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 3: run out of bounds, kind of halfway, stayed out of bounds.

518
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 5: Kind of came in bounds a little bit.

519
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: He ended up throwing Greg and I talked for a

520
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: little bit after this game about whether maybe he was

521
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 3: trying to throw it out of bounds or was trying

522
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: to hit the receiver down the field. It looked too

523
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 3: in bounds of a throw for me to think that

524
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 3: he was trying to throw it out of bounds. Ends

525
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 3: up being an interception. Kirby Joseph picked it off, and

526
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 3: then it just got from bad to worse, and by

527
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 3: the way, against the coach who used to really enjoy

528
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 3: running up the score on opponents in that stadium.

529
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Speaker 1: And Ben Johnson was asked about that after the game,

530
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: and then do you believe.

531
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Speaker 8: Dan Campbell ran it up on anyone?

532
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 6: What's he supposed to do is fourth and goal?

533
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Speaker 14: What do you want him to do?

534
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could have kicked the field goal.

535
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 14: They don't kick field goals, they go forward there.

536
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: So he was doing what he was supposed to do.

537
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 6: That's what he does.

538
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: Good answer, Let's not make it money. Honestly, the idea

539
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: is far as many points as you could have. Ben

540
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: Johnson was upset about a lot of things in this game.

541
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: I don't think I.

542
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,959
Speaker 3: Think he could have been upset about Romadunze dropping multiple passes,

543
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 3: including on one drive. I think he could have been

544
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: really upset about his offensive line. Twenty one pressures and

545
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 3: four sacks. Braxton Jones especially struggled. Nine pressures, two sacks,

546
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 3: and four of them were quick pressures. Lots of penalties

547
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 3: yet again, anything off script, off the opening drive, off

548
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 3: the first fifteen plays off, any of this looks so

549
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: bad for this team offense and defense. They look so

550
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: discombobulated this defense. The floodgates just opened Jared Goff played

551
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 3: so so well, really calm.

552
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 5: They stayed even with their run pass balance.

553
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 3: They definitely saw the second half of that Vikings Jordan

554
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 3: Mason attack on the Bears defense, and they ran the

555
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 3: ball pretty evenly throughout. And Jared Goff was what twenty

556
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 3: three twenty three for twenty eight for three hundred thirty

557
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 3: four yards, five touchdowns, the longest time to throw in

558
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 3: a game he's had since twenty twenty two, through five

559
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: touchdowns in a game against the Bears, the first time

560
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 3: that's happened to the Bear since twenty fourteen, and also

561
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: the first time since twenty fourteen the Bears have allowed

562
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Speaker 3: fifty plus points.

563
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Speaker 5: In a game. The Denissance is off.

564
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, rest in peace to the Donostants. We had a

565
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 6: great two quarters, but I think I think three quarters.

566
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 2: We had three quarters.

567
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 5: Three dang it, we had three quarters.

568
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 6: Give the credit for those full three quarters.

569
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Speaker 9: I mean, it's it's not something that Ben Johnson should

570
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 9: be upset about. But and he's right, like Dan Campbell

571
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 9: with Ben Johnson there, Dan Campbell without Ben Johnson there,

572
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 9: they run the score up. I thought that's it was

573
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 9: twenty twenty one to forty five, and then Jared Goff

574
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 9: is thrown that pass tom on Ross Saint Brown, where

575
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 9: like the play, the drive started with the pass on

576
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Speaker 9: that possession, So it's like they were trying to score,

577
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 9: which is what they do.

578
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like he is running it up.

579
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Speaker 1: I love that too because so often I watched these

580
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: games in garbage time and teams can't do anything in

581
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: garbage time when they're trying to like they're just out

582
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: there trying to play and execute offense. I don't think

583
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: think that all of the line's interior offensive line problems

584
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: are completely solved. I don't think that Jared Goff, you know,

585
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: being as in tune with his offensive coordinator John Morton,

586
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: compared to all the continuity had with Ben Johnson over

587
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: the years, it is solved. The only way that you

588
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: got to get better is to do it on Sundays,

589
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: and yes, you get a little extra to do it

590
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: against Ben Johnson's Bears. Dan Campbell after the game said,

591
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: we went out we wanted to go out there and

592
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: put on a little show. And yeah, if you see

593
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: the spray chart from Jared Goff his next gen start,

594
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: that's uh, it's just it's just a beautiful. How would

595
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: you describe as what we don't see as a lot

596
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: of incomplete passes.

597
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 5: It's the Bellaggio fountain.

598
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 9: I mean it looks it honestly looks like a middle

599
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 9: finger to Fitch.

600
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: It's a huge my god, it does middle finger to

601
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. Oh my god, for just doubting even

602
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: for a second that you could you could have with

603
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: the troil.

604
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 3: Well, and you know what I was actually I was

605
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: really impressed with with Jared Goff because it didn't start.

606
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: I mean, this team started out pretty even. They you know,

607
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: this looked like, okay, maybe this is going to be

608
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: close there.

609
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 5: Just for a hot a hot second there.

610
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: And then Jared gov on that drive where he gets

611
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: the ball to that insane sideline one handed catch to

612
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: Isaac Teslav. There are a couple completions on that drive

613
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: that he a he kind of sidestep pressure a little bit,

614
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: then stood in while that secondary rush came and got

615
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: him and popped him. And he stood in and he

616
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: completed throws and he really stayed composed. And then you know,

617
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: after some of the turnovers they had, they would go

618
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: out and they'd run the ball six times in a row.

619
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: I mean, this was a team that was settling itself

620
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: down as it went, It was getting that rhythm as

621
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: it went. And then on the other side, much better

622
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: performance from this defense, from this lines defense than in

623
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: the week.

624
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Speaker 5: One.

625
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: The coolest, one of the coolest moments of the game

626
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: was when Aiden Hutcherson recorded his first sack back home

627
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: in front of the fans since getting hurt, and he

628
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: blew like he was on stage like he blew several

629
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: kisses to the crowd, double hand kisses to the crowd,

630
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: and was such a showman in.

631
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 5: The best way about it. You could tell it was a.

632
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: Really emotional moment for him, is really emotional moment for

633
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: the fans. That crowd was juiced the whole way through.

634
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: And these are the good old days.

635
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: A day like this for the Lions fans was better

636
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: than basically any days for decades on and for the Lions.

637
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: So they are going to enjoy the hell out of

638
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: this and they're going to feel great about getting Jamison

639
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: Williams like two forty plus yard plays, including a sixty

640
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 1: four yarder. He had a touchdown. Amon rag Go's over

641
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: one hundred gets three touchdowns. Jamiyir Gibbs has a forty

642
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: two yard run. He gets his touch on like everyone

643
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: got theirs today. I don't think everything's solved, but everything

644
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: is looking a little familiar. In the NFC North with

645
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: the Bears at zero to two. All right, the revenge

646
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,239
Speaker 1: portion of the program not over, but we are going

647
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: to take a quick break and on the other side,

648
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about DK Metcalf against the team

649
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: that traded him away.

650
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 12: Walker now in the backfield, jsn Wyer the left side,

651
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 12: and Walker's gonna get the toass He's going left side.

652
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 6: He's got some blocking.

653
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: He turns out Phillies down inside.

654
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 17: The five touchdown Shayhawks can Walker the third. If the

655
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 17: Steelers are gonna load up near the line of scrimmage,

656
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 17: Walker is gonna flak you to the left and run

657
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 17: right past you.

658
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 5: And he does.

659
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 6: The Seahawks score again.

660
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: It is thirty to seventeen.

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Speaker 14: Oh.

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Speaker 1: They say that preseason's a liar, but sometimes you see

663
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Speaker 1: the great Seahawks running game in the preseason and it

664
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Speaker 1: actually shows up when it matters a week late. That

665
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Speaker 1: was Steve rabele K I ro Kenneth Walker with a

666
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Speaker 1: big time day in a thirty one to seventeen victory.

667
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Speaker 1: He finishes with one hundred and five yards on the ground.

668
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Speaker 1: They were the tougher team. I say they were the

669
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Speaker 1: more Steelers e team.

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Speaker 3: Jordan, Yeah, and you know, Greg, we've talked a lot

671
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: about omens since the season began, and these coordinators that

672
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: show their playscript and they kind of designed their first

673
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: several calls as to what they want to send a

674
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 3: subliminal message to the public, to the cognizantee no viewing,

675
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: to themselves viewing the games, or to themselves sometimes. At

676
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: the start of this one, Seattle scored a touchdown on

677
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Speaker 3: a play action pass. You remember those did not see

678
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Speaker 3: them in week one, definitely saw them again this time

679
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: and it was Tory Horton's first career touchdown. From there,

680
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: as soon as Seattle settled down, and this was largely

681
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Speaker 3: through the second half, they loaded up. They used extra

682
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 3: tight ends, they used their full back Robbie outs, they

683
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 3: used heavy personnel, and they ran the ball really physically.

684
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: I loved how everyone sold out for the blocking that

685
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker touchdown. You could see on the perimeter guys

686
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: shedding their in side blockers and flushing out to the

687
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: outside to sell out. Put their bodies in the way

688
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: to create space for him to run. You could see

689
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 3: how much room he knew he had with that little

690
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: skip step at the end of the touchdown. I will

691
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: say it took him a minute to get kind of

692
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: regathered back into this identity that they showed us during

693
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Speaker 3: the preseason, because it looked at the start that it

694
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: was all about the Steelers defense.

695
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 5: These splash plays were insane.

696
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey picked off a throw intended for Cooper Cup,

697
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: former Super Bowl teammate.

698
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 5: Really smart play.

699
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: He saw Sam Darnold's eyes drop and knew the ball

700
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: was also dropping for the under concept. Instead of leading

701
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup on the throw where Cooper Cup probably had

702
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: a touchdown, Jalen Ramsey took a guess and played the underneath.

703
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: The ball came underneath, he picked it off. The problem

704
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: here and it plagued the Steelers all day. They only

705
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 3: got three points off of that right and then after

706
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: a blocked field goal which removed potential points from Seattle,

707
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey again, and this is all first half. Jalen

708
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: Ramsey again, The Steelers failed to get any points on

709
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: the following possession, So this is like all of this

710
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: is happening, And then all of a sudden, they start

711
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 3: running slants away from Jalen Ramsey, they figure out where

712
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 3: he's lined up and they block him out of the play,

713
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: or they start designing their past concepts away from wherever

714
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 3: he's at on the field. This was a tale of

715
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 3: two halves for the Steelers defense and the Seahawks offense

716
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 3: because once they changed their plan and adjusted into this

717
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: heavier we are going to be physical, We're going to

718
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 3: bully you. It really helped the Seahawks that Alex Highsmith

719
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 3: had to leave the game with an ankle might be

720
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: out for a few weeks now. This was absolutely a

721
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: Seahawks team that settled in and rediscovered who they were,

722
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: and they showed us who they wanted to be with

723
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 3: that first play of the game.

724
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Speaker 9: And it happens in you know, all due respect to

725
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 9: the Seahawks performance against a Steelers defense that starts and

726
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Speaker 9: I know high Smith left the game to look very

727
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 9: funny in the light after we saw what the Jets

728
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 9: and Breice Hall did. Kenneth Walker has this performance with

729
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 9: not even that many carries, and to where I wondered,

730
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 9: you know, I know some guys had taken made some

731
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 9: guesses on that Kenneth Walker run and ultimately were wrong,

732
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 9: but maybe some business decisions were made as well, Kennis

733
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 9: Walker to go skipping in the end zone. There and

734
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 9: Aaron Rodgers on plays that lasted over two and a

735
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 9: half seconds. He had one hundred and forty one yards

736
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Speaker 9: through the year, zero touchdowns and two interceptions with a

737
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Speaker 9: passer rating of twenty eight point five.

738
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Speaker 5: There there's a tail. And that's a great point because he.

739
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Speaker 3: I mean, he looked bad, and he looked like he

740
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: was in pain for a lot of the time that

741
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 3: he was playing. He made bad decisions on some of

742
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: his throats, things that you would expect him to take

743
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: a risk on, sure if this was ten years ago,

744
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: but you don't necessarily expect him the inner city.

745
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 5: I'll get to it in a minute. But like, there's

746
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 5: a tail of these.

747
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 3: Two quarterbacks, the pressure that they faced and the decisions

748
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: they made out of that pressure. Sam Darnold got the

749
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 3: crap beat out of him earlier, and he looked skittish,

750
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 3: and he looked jittery, and he looked like, you know,

751
00:35:58,960 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 3: he was.

752
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,479
Speaker 2: You're honking in the first Anage game, right.

753
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: About Sam Donaldo doff, Yes.

754
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 3: And I go, oh, Sam at one point, I went, oh, Sam,

755
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 3: you know, and and you know, he didn't play a

756
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: totally clean game.

757
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 5: He got hit, he turned the ball over.

758
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: But there was a third and long later in the

759
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: game that Patrick Queen got in as a rusher and

760
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: he got there almost too fast really on the play,

761
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: and Sam Darnold evaded the pressure very very calmly and

762
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: then dumped the ball off for a first down and

763
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: then took a shot play a play later to JSN

764
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: who had another really good game as the clear number

765
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: one receiver on this football team, and Jalen Ramsey was

766
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 3: covering it. So it was just like that, the entire

767
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: switch flips. And then the tail of the other conversion

768
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: was Aaron Rodgers on a third and six deciding he

769
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: was going to cut and run for the sticks, a

770
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 3: conversion he would have made. He had the flat open,

771
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: Leonard Williams in pursuit, and he looks behind behind him

772
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: and he sees Leonard Williams bearing down on him, and

773
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: it's almost like he flinched and he got pulled down

774
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 3: and he was two yards short. And this is not

775
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: what we would have seen. A the risk taking and

776
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: b the level of athleticism that just is not there,

777
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 3: and he forced the ball. He missed them throws. He

778
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: got really annoyed.

779
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 5: You could tell he.

780
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: Was irritated through a lot of this game. And one

781
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 3: of the two huge mistakes of this game we'll get

782
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 3: to the second in a minute, was the interception that

783
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 3: he threw. I mean, this was a end zone interception

784
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: that nullified potential points for the Steelers as they were

785
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: trying to actually like stay competitive.

786
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 5: In this game.

787
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: And it's Darien Kendrick, the cast off from the Los

788
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 3: Angeles Rams, who makes the play on the ball that

789
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: is forced between multiple defenders in the end zone, and

790
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: it just you know, this was just they basically both

791
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: of these teams switched places as the game went on.

792
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: And this is one of the best defenses in the league,

793
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: at least I thought it was coming into this, so

794
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't totally shock me. But it's pretty one sided

795
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: in terms of the yardage. In terms of the pressure,

796
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: Boye Mafe and Derek Hall had two of the highest,

797
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: if not I think of the three highest pressure rates

798
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: of the early window. So the offensive line hasn't looked

799
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: that good for the Steelers. They weren't really able to

800
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: run the ball, you know, other than this insane Jalen

801
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: Warren play where he goes sixty five yards and makes

802
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: a million people miss on a really short path.

803
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 5: He turns the pick after it right.

804
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: Rogers basically doesn't have any you know, meaningful production the

805
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: rest of the day, So very concerning that. And Devin Witherspoon,

806
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: you know, was banged up in this game, didn't play that.

807
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: They lose the second half twenty four to three against

808
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. Both of these teams though one and one.

809
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: It's early. You know, they've got all the time in

810
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: the world to bounce back. But Mike Tomlin was annoyed.

811
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: We hadn't even gotten to the.

812
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 4: Big the biggest mistake in the game, right. Let's hell,

813
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 4: let's listen to it.

814
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Speaker 12: Getting ready to boot it away? Is Meyers a line

815
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 12: drive kick Gainwell and Johnson. As the ball bounces through

816
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 12: the hands of Johnson and into the end zone, it's

817
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 12: going to stay in the end zone? Did the Seahawks

818
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 12: fall on it in the end zone? It's going to

819
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 12: be a touchdown Seahawks.

820
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 17: The ball went through the hands of the kick returner,

821
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 17: he touched it, it landed in the end zone.

822
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 12: The ball in the landing zone on a kickoff, somebody's

823
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 12: got to.

824
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 6: Cover it for the receiving team.

825
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 2: It was recovered by the kicking team in the end zone.

826
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Speaker 14: Touchdown.

827
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: Holy, that is after the officials annoyed. And that's on

828
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 3: the way to seventeen unanswered points by the Seattle Seahawks.

829
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Speaker 1: By the way, let's listen to Mike Tomlin asked about

830
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: it after the game.

831
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Speaker 11: It's poor judgment by young player.

832
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 18: M specifically work one in practice every day of our lives.

833
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: Mmm.

834
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Speaker 9: That's that's brutal. That's brutal for Caleb Johnson because he

835
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 9: hasn't gotten a lot.

836
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: Of playing time too snaps on offense.

837
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 9: And and to have that happen. Looking at the reverse

838
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 9: angle from the top, he looks away before the ball stopped.

839
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Speaker 9: I wonder because I know, like there's you know, he's

840
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 9: a rookie awareness of the rules. I'm legitially wondering if

841
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 9: he thought the ball was going to bounce out and

842
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 9: it checked up in the infield man.

843
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Speaker 1: The kickoff is such a bigger part of every single

844
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: game in the NFL now in many different ways, that

845
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: was one of them, and they'd paid for a big

846
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: time and maybe that play will kind of cover up

847
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: all the issues that they have on their defense right

848
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: now and on the offense other than Warren because of

849
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: that big catch, Like none of the receivers over thirty

850
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: one yards. Let's go to a team with some quality

851
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: wide receivers that went to Nashville today.

852
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 10: Big moment here third and five in the red zone,

853
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 10: a field goal and it's still a one score game.

854
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 5: A touchdown and the Rams are in the driver's seat.

855
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 6: Big what's coming? Stafford heat from his heels.

856
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 19: Hitch Davonte hits a touchdown back right pylon. Adams first

857
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Speaker 19: as a Ram touchdown alay the guts from Stafford to

858
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 19: hang in and.

859
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: Hit the fade away. Oh the guts of a burglar.

860
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: That's JB.

861
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: Long on ksp n DeVante Adams with his first score,

862
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: his first hundred yard game as a member of the

863
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams, one hundred and six on six catches.

864
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: Puka Nakua adds a forty five yard touchdown run on

865
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Speaker 1: our favorite fourth and one play where they need the Cooper.

866
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: Cup play from the Super Bowl.

867
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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, eight for ninety one through

868
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: the air, like they will need other people to contribute,

869
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you know some people are, but they

870
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 1: don't need that much more to have a pretty great offense.

871
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: Thirty three to nineteen the Rams win in Nashville.

872
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Speaker 9: Yeah, and it was an offensive performance where they kind

873
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 9: of pulled away late. And for the second consecutive week,

874
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 9: these Tennessee Titans and cam Ward have made things very interesting.

875
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 9: But it's ultimately the Rams defense the prosby stifling Byron

876
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 9: Young got two sacks two out of the five times

877
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 9: that cam Ward was sacked, and the Rams pulled away

878
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 9: in the second half. The Puka Kakua play the best

879
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 9: part of that play, which was a little bit because

880
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 9: Cooper Cup and the Super Bowl started out out wide

881
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 9: and Puka here is one of those McVeigh rnkles the

882
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 9: same play, right, but it just looks a little different

883
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 9: at the onset. Whittington like hit twenty two miles per hour,

884
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 9: believe to catch up to Pooka and throw a block

885
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 9: there towards the end. So that was great, but it's

886
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 9: tough because great performance the Rams two and zero. The

887
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 9: NFC West is going to be fun this year. But

888
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 9: to look at cam Ward, which was again the reason

889
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 9: I wanted to take this game. Ilk Aomnor is running

890
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 9: an out in the red zone.

891
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 6: Cam Ward drifts across the field.

892
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 9: The entire screening room, including me, is saying, no, cam no,

893
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 9: throw the ball away.

894
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 6: What are you doing? No?

895
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 14: No, no, no, yes.

896
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 9: What a spectacular throw from cam Ward mid air outside

897
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 9: of the numbers, all the way to the t and

898
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 9: the ins on the other side of the field. Are

899
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 9: you kidding me? That's what I'm gonna remember for this game. Yeah,

900
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 9: the rams one. But this is why the least discussed

901
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 9: number one overall pick of all time is so fun

902
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 9: to watch.

903
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: Eric Fisher you know, begs to differ, but I I mean,

904
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 1: we could come up with some others, right, but Eric

905
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: Fisher definitely is the winner in the clubhouse. That's the

906
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: leader in the clubhouse for a throw of the year, right, Yeah,

907
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: I mean, because for him to get the depth on

908
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: that throw from where he threw it is just absolutely outrageous.

909
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: And for it to come right after he also hits

910
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: Aomannor who is really looking like a great Day three pick.

911
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: He was an early fourth round pick. He hit him

912
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: up the sideline for a beautiful hole shot right before

913
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: that game, Ward all ends with you know, one hundred

914
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: and seventy five yards, but nineteen to thirty three in

915
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: those plays that make you believe, if you're a Titans fan,

916
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: if you're gonna lose by two touchdowns at home, I

917
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: feel like this was about as good a way to

918
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: do that as possible.

919
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: With Ward having his second straight good game.

920
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 3: I know we're seeing this every week at this point.

921
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: I know it's only two games, but did this in

922
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: college too, where you just see this like fearlessness and

923
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: how cam Ward plays? I do think I turned to

924
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 3: you at one point today, Greg in the in the newsroom,

925
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 3: and I was like.

926
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 5: He's got a little Matthew Stafford to him in.

927
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: The trip shots, in the trick shots that he tries,

928
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 3: and some of the arm angles that he takes. It

929
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 3: is sort of ironic in that sense that right after

930
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: that touchdown, Matthew Stafford and the Rams offense go out

931
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: on the field and Matthew Stafford is intercepted. You know,

932
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: which is the true quintessential Matthew Stafford experience.

933
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 5: Right.

934
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 3: This was an interesting game to me because it's been

935
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: the script of a lot of Rams games for a

936
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: couple of years now, where they start really really slow,

937
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: and you know, we said that the Titans defense was creditable,

938
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 3: creditable earlier this week, and they are and they are respectable.

939
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 5: But it's also the.

940
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 3: Rams playing down to an opponent and starting slow yet

941
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 3: again in the double digits over the last couple of seasons,

942
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 3: where it's either one touchdown or no touchdowns at all

943
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: in the first quarter.

944
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean they the end up, like you said, always

945
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: fixing it, not always, but this time, you know, you

946
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: end up with seven and a half yards for play

947
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: in the end, it looks like a dominant performance. You

948
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: mentioned Jordan Winnington, who's who's stepped in really tough to

949
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: and become their number three receiver. You know we kind

950
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: of they didn't like when we made fun of two

951
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: two Outwell's ten million dollar contract. Well, he has four

952
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: yards through two weeks, and Winnington's like a bigger part.

953
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll have his moments too, and.

954
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: I would positive that if Miami were too, and know

955
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 3: they'd be trying to trade for him right now.

956
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: I I notice the difference in terms of just pressure

957
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 1: though you know cam Ord and get you know, takes

958
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: five sacks. The Rams defensive line has six tackles for loss.

959
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: There's four passes defense, whereas Matthew Stafford was under much

960
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: less pressure. Byron Young is off to a really fast

961
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: start this season. So that combination of these incredible wide

962
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: receivers and just enough pass rush gets the Rams to

963
00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: to and oh, Jordan also survives good job picking the

964
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: Rams here.

965
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: She doesn't take it seriously.

966
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: I do take it so serious literally.

967
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: When this, I said, oh, your your survivor picks in

968
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 1: a little trouble when they were down thirteenth.

969
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: I said, you were like, oh, yeah, like I care

970
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: so much. He said that.

971
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 5: I said that. I said, I'm not worried about it

972
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 5: because I care so much.

973
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: See when you said that, that was actually the first

974
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: time I was like, oh, maybe she does care a

975
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: little bit.

976
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 5: Well, I'm competing with you, so you know, no, you guys.

977
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: Also, rookie ed rusher Josiah Stewart records his first sack

978
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 3: today and he's all over the field on that insane

979
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: cam Ward throw almost gets to the pressure. It is

980
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: weird to me that he's wearing number ten.

981
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: I will point that out a lot of weird numbers

982
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: around the NFL these days.

983
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 6: I love it.

984
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 2: Bryce Huff wearing a forty seven. We'll get to him later.

985
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 5: He I know, me and Greg were like, who the

986
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 5: hell is that? Oh, that's Bryce.

987
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: Huff all right. So that was the Rams. They get

988
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: to to and Ozer Titans at oh and two. It's

989
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: time for the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota. Let's go places,

990
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: specifically met Life Stadium.

991
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 14: The Bills are right back at thirteen.

992
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 12: Personnel Cook the loan setback. Here's a snap, it's another handoff,

993
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 12: Cooking to.

994
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 14: Cut it back through a hole, dodges a defender, up

995
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 14: and out and out the gate to the races down

996
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 14: to the twenty.

997
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 8: Ten five touchdown.

998
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 19: James took forty four big ones for the score. James

999
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 19: Cook was out the gate and it was tail life time.

1000
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: His ability to break those tackles and change direction. If

1001
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: we had a run of the year, I think that's

1002
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: it so far. Forty four yards of the house. That

1003
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: was Chris Brown wgr Bill's win thirty to ten in

1004
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: a game that wasn't nearly that close. I'm gonna get

1005
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: a lot of picks wrong this year. We'll see if

1006
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: I can get any pick more wrong than this.

1007
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: Because I thought the Jets were a bad matchup.

1008
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: I thought they would win this game straight up until

1009
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: we were in garbage time of this game. It was

1010
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: three hundred and eighty three yards to eighty seven, twenty

1011
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: four first downs to five. Josh uh or rather Justin

1012
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: Fields had fewer yards passing in this game than Mitchell

1013
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: Trubisky did on his one throw that he threw in

1014
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: the first half after Josh Allen appeared to break his

1015
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: nose and it just exploded into a sea of blood.

1016
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: The Bills are the team, Patrick, I think that the

1017
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: Jets want to be at least offensively, like the Jets

1018
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 1: want to be that great offensive line in this game, Like, hey,

1019
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: we don't even need our quarterback to be efficient or

1020
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: effective throwing the ball. We're just gonna mash you running

1021
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: the ball. Like that's what the Bills did. They were

1022
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,479
Speaker 1: much better at that style of play than the Jets

1023
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 1: were today.

1024
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, and it's maybe we were, and maybe you believed

1025
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 9: in the Jets a little too much after the performance

1026
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 9: I did the Pittsburgh st.

1027
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: Be ware the moral victory.

1028
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: This happens all the time whenever you whenever had someone

1029
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,959
Speaker 1: has a moral victory, they inevitably play worse the next

1030
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: week and then just lose by more.

1031
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 9: And there were some things that schematically didn't make a

1032
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 9: lot of sense to me. There was some implementation about

1033
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 9: the officiating as well as the spotters because Justin Fields

1034
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 9: not only did the Jets put Mason Taylor in a

1035
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 9: situation where he's blocking Bosa off the edge, but Mason

1036
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 9: Taylor was on the injury report, wasn't even sure if

1037
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 9: he's gonna play. Then it gets lined up to block Bosa,

1038
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 9: who gets a hit on Justin Fields, lands on the

1039
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 9: back of his head, gets up, he's a little wobbly,

1040
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 9: then gets hit on the next play, leaves the game

1041
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 9: with the concussion. I just wonder like you have to

1042
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 9: be able to implement things to protect the players in

1043
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 9: that situation better because multiple folks let Justin Fields down

1044
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 9: on that. When he leaves the game, Tyrod comes in

1045
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 9: in garbage time. But this was there was just no

1046
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 9: opportunity for the Jets. Almost throughout this game, Like you mentioned,

1047
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 9: Josh takes the hit in the nose, and I'm sure

1048
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 9: like all of upstate New York was calling for a

1049
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 9: revisor for Josh at that point, when you see a hand,

1050
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 9: get the helmet and mister Trubisky comes in and fires

1051
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 9: one immediately.

1052
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: Like a perfect layered throw twenty seven yards down the

1053
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: field reminded me it was to Josh Palmer, and it

1054
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: reminded me a ton of.

1055
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: The throw to Josh Palmer.

1056
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: That Josh Allen made his best throw of the week

1057
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: last week on Sunday Night Football, and I was like, damn, Mitch,

1058
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: like I didn't know you had it in you at

1059
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: that point in the game. I believe Trubisky had more

1060
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: yards passing than Allen. He started out like doing nothing

1061
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: and they were still trailing. Like the biggest offensive play

1062
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: early was a forty yard Josh Allen run, but it

1063
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: really didn't matter because Justin Fields was off. He did

1064
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: have some open receivers early that he missed. The offensive

1065
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: line wasn't nearly as good in this game either, and

1066
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: then on the other side of the ball, the Jets

1067
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: defense has been a disaster through two weeks. I think

1068
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: Justin Fields has been so extreme it's going to take

1069
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: attention away. Last week was his best week in his

1070
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: entire career in EPA per play number one forty six starts.

1071
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: This week was his worst week in his entire career

1072
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: out of forty six starts, So that's going to get

1073
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: the attention what's been consistent is the the Jets defense

1074
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: through two weeks I would say is the worst combination

1075
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: of completely undisciplined, crazy amount of penalties in bus and

1076
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: no disguise at all. They're just lining up, they're showing

1077
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,479
Speaker 1: you they're in man, they're showing you they're in zone.

1078
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: And the Bills knew exactly what to do when they

1079
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: saw that.

1080
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is interesting. I it's I know it's a

1081
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: little coordinator change, right, Uh, Steve Wilkes is over there now,

1082
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: and they've had some changes in personnel, but like this

1083
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 3: defense should not be as clear as it.

1084
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: Is to figure it's Aaron Glenn really running the show.

1085
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but Aaron Glenn's not calling plays or

1086
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 3: anything like that. And this these are two very competent

1087
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 3: senior defensive minds who are in these roles because they're

1088
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: very good at these jobs. And like that is that

1089
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 3: is concerning to me because one at some point you

1090
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 3: do understand that, you know, maybe they're just not as

1091
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 3: one for one talented all over the.

1092
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 5: Roster as they used to be.

1093
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: But they still do have some players, right, and so

1094
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 3: you would hope to see a little bit more I

1095
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 3: guess are less mental mistakes out of this group, I

1096
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: guess you would say, especially not used to seeing that

1097
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: from an Aaron Glenn or a Steve Wilks team, those

1098
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 3: types of mental mistakes.

1099
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: They've got some bad combinations. I think in the secondary,

1100
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: I think they're linebackers like Sherwood and Quincy Williams are

1101
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: too similar. They're like these kind of crazy run after it.

1102
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: You miss CJ. Moseley right now. It was like it

1103
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: was just like a come down to Earth moment for

1104
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: the Jets because they were getting booed hard in the

1105
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: second quarter.

1106
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: Come down to Earth moment for me.

1107
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: I apologize to Eric, you know, I apologize to the Bills.

1108
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 3: I mean I want to own the l too, because

1109
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 3: I was so high on this run game for the Jets.

1110
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 5: I still am. But man, it's going to be feast

1111
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 5: or famine some time.

1112
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: But for doubting is this is a team that has

1113
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl aspirations and for them to they almost felt

1114
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: like the way they talked throughout the week and then

1115
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: after this that they felt like they were bouncing back

1116
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: from a win, even as crazy as great as that

1117
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: performance was, that at least on the defensive side of

1118
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: the ball, and they didn't have their two best defenders

1119
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: from a week ago in this game. Toron Johnson ed

1120
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: Oliver were out of this game. It was ugly. So yes,

1121
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: booing in METLIGHTE Stadium was probably the crowd reaction I'll

1122
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: remember most from today, except for the entire Lions crowd

1123
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: chanting f Ben Johnson, f Ben Johnson at the end

1124
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: of that game, which.

1125
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of booing us in a way, Greg for

1126
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 3: being so excited about the Jets and so worried.

1127
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 5: About the Bills.

1128
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: I guess I know, just like a small fraction of

1129
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: what it's like to be a Jets fan, like committed

1130
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: myself to this team today.

1131
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 2: But great job by the Bills.

1132
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: Seriously, they are looking already two weeks in like they

1133
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: might cruise to this division. That was the Sunday Drive

1134
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: presented by Toyota. Let's go places, Let's go to the Desert, Ryce.

1135
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: Young and Shotgun.

1136
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 10: The Cardinals rushed for Young back to pass pressure in

1137
00:53:59,239 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 10: Young space.

1138
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 5: He's He's sacked.

1139
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 19: It's Kaleias Campbell who wins the game in his first

1140
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 19: game back at State Barn Stadium, wearing all red Palayist

1141
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 19: hero in this game.

1142
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 10: Finally we'll come to an end.

1143
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: Oh, man, if we could play a Kalayis Campbell game

1144
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: winning sack in the year twenty twenty five, we are

1145
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: going to do it. This man is thirty nine years old,

1146
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: was drafted in two thousand and eight.

1147
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: Thought he was maybe the.

1148
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: Best player on the field for their defense a week ago.

1149
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: Was a key player tonight, and he said it was

1150
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: important that he got to rotate in and out. He

1151
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: wasn't nearly as tired by the end of the game

1152
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: as he was a week ago, and they were holding

1153
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: on for deer life. That was Dave Pash by the

1154
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: way on KMVP. Cardinals win twenty seven to twenty two

1155
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: in a game that looked completely over the Cardinals up

1156
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: three scores and driving in the four quarter before a

1157
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray interception kick started a wild comeback and the

1158
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: Panthers actually having the ball with a chance to win

1159
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: the game.

1160
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 6: At the end.

1161
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was such a like inversion of a game

1162
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 3: from most of it until that final quarter and especially

1163
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 3: you know, some of the second half overall, but especially

1164
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 3: that that final quarter, and then it got really weird

1165
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 3: at the end. Kalais Campbell, by the way, was one

1166
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 3: of many Cardinals players who defensive players, especially who left

1167
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 3: the game at one point, Kalais Campbell, Thank goodness for

1168
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 3: the Cardinals did return to make that game ceiling play

1169
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 3: at the very end. But by the end of the game,

1170
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 3: there are two cornerbacks on the field named Denzel Burke

1171
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 3: and Catrell Clark. They were missing will Johnson who has

1172
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 3: a groin injury. According to Jonathan Gannon, Max Melton, and

1173
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 3: Garrett Williams, and they were down to again these deep

1174
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 3: backups because they already been dealing with injuries out at

1175
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 3: this position outside and inside at this point. And Jonathan

1176
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 3: Gannon really really loves to play dime defense, and he

1177
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 3: loves to play rotating coverages and shift his dbs around

1178
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 3: and really mix up the looks there, and then he

1179
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 3: kind of operates back to front in that way, which

1180
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: means that what he wants to do on the back

1181
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: end of his defense will often dictate the type of

1182
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 3: pressure that he wants to run. Okay, well down multiple scores.

1183
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: What starts happening, But they start losing corners right starting

1184
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 3: with Melton, and then you know, Williams comes in and

1185
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 3: out of the game, Johnson goes out. They start playing

1186
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 3: a really regulated defense right, This is basically playing rules

1187
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 3: ball against Bryce Young and the Panthers playing more vanilla

1188
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 3: coverages than you're used to seeing from Jonathan Gannon not

1189
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 3: being able to play as much dime. At this point,

1190
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 3: Bryce Young kind of starts dealing a little bit. He

1191
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 3: starts slinging the ball around. They end up mounting a

1192
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 3: like Bryce Young and Hunter renfro Led come back.

1193
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: I mean, after touch after halftime, they go touch down, touchdown, touchdown.

1194
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 10: Now.

1195
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: It took them forever.

1196
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 1: It was fourteen plays, fourteen plays, twelve plays, but until

1197
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: that last drive, which was a total unmitigated disaster almost

1198
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: for both teams. But for the Cardinals it was just

1199
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 1: that they were committing turnovers. For the Panthers, it was

1200
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: that they couldn't protect Bryce. He couldn't make a decision.

1201
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: He was holding on to the ball. He was making

1202
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 1: groner after groner of decision. And it just is part

1203
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: of like a season that's already been mostly down, ups

1204
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: and downs, but mostly downs for Bryce and it started

1205
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: today with two turnovers in the first two drives.

1206
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 6: And they get it. They get a couple of gifts

1207
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 6: from the Cardinals.

1208
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 9: One is that Arizona abandoned the run game with the lead,

1209
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 9: they just did not run the ball.

1210
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 6: It felt like they didn't try.

1211
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 9: Kyler had a nasty interception where he was hit as

1212
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 9: he threw. They kind of gave the Panthers while they

1213
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 9: were on that touchdown run in the second half another opportunity.

1214
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 9: In fact, I think it was after the first touchdown

1215
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 9: as well, so they really made it a game after that.

1216
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 6: The on side kick come back.

1217
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 9: But yeah, the penalties on that drive, Yeah, a lot

1218
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 9: of them on third down as well and fourth down.

1219
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 9: That just it was like the Cardinals did everything they

1220
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 9: could to give Carolina a chance, but Carolina refused to

1221
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 9: snatch this victory.

1222
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to the Panthers. I was for recovering

1223
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: an on side kick and just making us all feel

1224
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: like it's possible again.

1225
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 5: Their first in eighty nine games.

1226
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: In the first in the NFL in a while. Like

1227
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: I think they was at what a four percent hit

1228
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: rate last year? I think there was only four that Like,

1229
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: it is very.

1230
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 3: Different and like, of course it bounces accidentally off a

1231
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 3: Cardinals defender's foot and then mac Wilson touches it right

1232
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 3: and then that's what happens, because that was what this

1233
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 3: game was Arizona got really sloppy when they had the lead.

1234
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 3: They're up twenty seven to ten. Kyler made an incredible

1235
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 3: Only Kyler Murray can make this play. Christian rose Boom

1236
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 3: was blitzing on a delayed blitz and he was able

1237
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 3: to get to him free. But then Kyler Murray like

1238
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 3: sort of just like makes his shoulder go limp and

1239
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 3: then scoots out of it. And I wish there was

1240
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 3: like a Looney Tune soundtrack to the corresponding thirty yard

1241
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 3: run likes all over the field. But then they turn

1242
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: it over and that's a hit by someone named Patrick Jones,

1243
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 3: and then dj Wanum picks it off and Bryce Young

1244
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 3: after that goes fourteen plays and eighty eight yards on

1245
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 3: a really nice, nice drive for the touchdown. I really

1246
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 3: appreciated the way that he handled pressure on that. Now

1247
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 3: they weren't sending their normal type of pressure.

1248
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 5: They ran out of.

1249
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 3: DB's so they couldn't send the type of pressure Jonathan

1250
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 3: Gannon wants to send, but Bryce Young shook off. Baron

1251
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 3: Browning creates the flat was open because the backup defensive

1252
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 3: back was in the game and got mixed up on

1253
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 3: the play and he found Cuba Hubbard for the touchdown

1254
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 3: made it twenty seven to fifteen, I mean, and then

1255
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 3: Arizona goes three and out. This was a story of

1256
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 3: the second half for the Cardinals, just playing with their

1257
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 3: food and stalling out after a lead.

1258
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: They got that lead though with some of the players

1259
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: that they brought in, like Josh Sweat started the game

1260
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: with the stripsack. They had a defensive touchdown from Zaven Collins,

1261
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: so the Cardinals offen only scored twenty points in this game.

1262
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: The defense gets a touchdown early off that Josh swt stripsack,

1263
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: and then they pick off Bryce the very next drive,

1264
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: so their defense got it done. They were going to

1265
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: hope to get some of their players back healthy in

1266
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: the secondary. That is concerning because that's one of the

1267
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: reasons why we like this team a lot. And for

1268
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: the Panthers, what a disappointing oh and two start, because

1269
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: even though they rallied a little late, for Bryce to

1270
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: make that many mistakes in the first two weeks and

1271
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: for them to feel like one of the worst teams

1272
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL at least just through two weeks is

1273
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: really disappointing. To be back in that position at least tech.

1274
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: McMillan looks like a dude, like six for one hundred

1275
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: and has made some of the best incomplete catches out

1276
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: of bounds I have ever seen in my life. So

1277
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: they got this one right. Tet McMillan is a dude. Yeah,

1278
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: it's too bad and they will move on.

1279
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 3: We cannot find another high draft pick Xavier Legette anywhere

1280
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 3: on the field. It targeted late in the fourth quarter

1281
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 3: at four targets, one catch for negative two yards, and

1282
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 3: then got targeted twice in a row by Bryce Young

1283
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 3: on a potential touchdown and one of them was defended

1284
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 3: and the other one just sailed right over his head.

1285
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 5: I mean it is.

1286
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,959
Speaker 1: Eight targets negative two yards. It was a rough day

1287
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: so that they are still searching. Another team that was

1288
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: searching at least for a starting quarterback today was the

1289
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine Ers. A lot of injuries. They

1290
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: go into New Orleans and they get a dub one zero.

1291
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 14: Three left on the clock.

1292
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 7: San Francisco twenty six Saints twenty one, fourth and two.

1293
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 7: The biggest player of the game coming up Rappler with

1294
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 7: the snap. Here comes pressure football by the.

1295
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 2: Forty nine ers. There's that forty seven football.

1296
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 7: On fourth and two, the pressure came rather.

1297
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 6: Football the football.

1298
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 14: Cisl Ruiz got it back. It doesn't matter.

1299
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 7: On fourth and two the defense comes up big again.

1300
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 19: Tim, you gotta have finishers and Rice Houff finishers around

1301
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 19: the corner.

1302
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: Oh, that's why they traded for Bryce Huff, Robert Salas

1303
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: Old Binky from the New York Jents around the corner.

1304
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers stop a New Orleans fourth quarter

1305
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: rally for the second straight week. Spencer Ratler played pretty

1306
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: well and had the ball needing a touchdown at the end.

1307
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: Couldn't get it done. That was Carlos Ramirez and Tim

1308
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: Ryan on ks Fo. Nick Bosa also with some big

1309
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: plays late in this game. But I assigned myself this

1310
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: game mostly for one reason.

1311
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 5: The storyline you secretly love the Saints.

1312
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: No, because Mac Jones and Kyle Shanahan were a love

1313
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: that was never consummated Patrick.

1314
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: Back in that draft, and I just wanted.

1315
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: To see what sweet, sweet music they could make together.

1316
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: And after an o for four start for Mac, the

1317
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: rest of the game he goes thirty of thirty nine

1318
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: for two seventy nine and three touchdowns and a lot

1319
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: of third and long conversions. I thought that was the

1320
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: difference was Kyle Shanahan dialing up perfect plays on third

1321
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: down where he found mismatches, and ultimately Mac Jones being

1322
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: good enough to deliver the ball to those mismatches.

1323
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 9: There were so many moments where I'm looking back and

1324
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 9: listening to Greg Rosenthal's voice in my head as Kyle

1325
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 9: Shanahan and Mac Jones embrace each other on the sideline,

1326
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 9: I think.

1327
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: It is you ever hear those stories about like a

1328
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: couple in high school, maybe they have like a little

1329
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: bit of a fling, but it doesn't work out.

1330
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 2: They move on with their lives for years and years.

1331
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: And then they reconnect years later and suddenly they start

1332
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: making sweet sweet love or football whatever it is. Mac Jones,

1333
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: he's that man for Kyle Shanahan. It's all he ever wanted,

1334
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,439
Speaker 1: was Mac Jones in this offense. I think it's gonna

1335
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: happen this week. Mac plays the best football that he's

1336
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: ever played. They get the win, and.

1337
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 9: That's Greg referencing love itself between Kyle Shanahan and Mac Jones,

1338
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 9: and we got to see that love come to trumission

1339
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 9: here in this moment where there were there were some

1340
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 9: up and down moments for mac Jones in this one,

1341
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 9: but the crossord to Jennings that he takes to the house.

1342
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 9: They desperately need Juwan Jennings on this team. It seems

1343
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 9: to hinge on whether or not he's healthy. And then

1344
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 9: Christian McCaffrey running a route against the corner like still

1345
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 9: being CMC, still winning prefact in the back of the

1346
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 9: end zone. That was nasty that this team being at

1347
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 9: tu and O, the Cardinals being at tu and O

1348
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 9: the Rams. It's it's a fun division, but they're gonna

1349
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 9: need Brock.

1350
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:39,919
Speaker 2: They're gonna need Brock in the long run.

1351
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: But this is kind of like one of one of

1352
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: those games I'm talking about where it's like managed the schedule,

1353
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: it's you know, you don't have Kittle, you don't have

1354
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: mac Jones. I think the Saints are a little better

1355
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: than people think. They're not great, but they've taken like

1356
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: a good honest effort by these two NFC West teams

1357
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: to come in there and in both games, like when

1358
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: you're looking at yardage and most of the plays, like

1359
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 1: they've been two pretty evenly played games. But you mentioned

1360
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: that late first half Christian McCaffrey seven yard touchdown pass.

1361
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: That was a great two minute drive by mac Jones

1362
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: in the offense because they got the ball with about

1363
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: a minute to go and went right down the field,

1364
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: and that was a great route by McCaffrey. But I

1365
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: was thinking of another like third and long and a

1366
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: key spot in the second half where he gets him

1367
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: matched up against Pete Warner and like there's just no chance.

1368
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: And there was just a few of those third down

1369
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: mismatches where Kyle was in his bag, like Jake tongas

1370
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: the hero from a year ago, with a very Kyle

1371
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: uscheck type of route where he's like almost like a

1372
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: full back on the play and he totally confuses the

1373
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: Saints and he's wide open on third down. You mentioned

1374
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: the long Jennings touchdown. There just was a lot of

1375
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: coaching wins I thought, and Kyle well appreciate. I think

1376
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: mac Jones basically did what Kyle wanted to do and

1377
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,479
Speaker 1: didn't freak out. Didn't have those freak out mac Jones

1378
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: moments other than like the first drive of the Gamers, He.

1379
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 3: Played a clean game over the next couple of weeks.

1380
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 3: That is all Kyle Shanna wants from his quarterback is to.

1381
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: Play it did fumble twice. I should point out singing

1382
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: his praises.

1383
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 3: Sure in terms of his passing, he played a clean game,

1384
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 3: no interception, three touchdowns, seventy nine two or seventy nine

1385
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 3: yards twenty six for thirty nine. You know he he

1386
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 3: see ball where ball must go.

1387
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 5: Listen an ear where ball must go. Throw ball to

1388
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 5: that spot.

1389
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 3: That is what for the next few weeks until brock

1390
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 3: perty who can throw it around a little bit more

1391
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,439
Speaker 3: and can take the risky throws. We've seen him gain

1392
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan's trust in order to do that. This is

1393
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 3: going to be one of those things where if he

1394
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 3: is debuting like this, mac Jones is for Kyle the

1395
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 3: way that Kyle clearly and really wants him to Kyle

1396
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 3: and the rest of this offense will do the rest.

1397
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 3: And that is where I think that this is actually

1398
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 3: a sneaky good situation minus the injury.

1399
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 5: But if you're going to have.

1400
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 3: A backup, have the backup who is going to adhere

1401
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 3: exactly to what the head coach is going.

1402
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 5: To want you to do.

1403
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: He kind of reminded me of Party in this game too,

1404
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: because they did not play that well on for and

1405
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: second down, and there were a lot of third and

1406
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: long situations where he was not afraid to fire it

1407
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: in there. I think one of the biggest plays of

1408
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: the game was Ricky Pearsall coming back. Those mac Jones

1409
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: passes take a while to get there, and they're just

1410
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: in there and it's it's third and long and he

1411
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: puts it in the right spot for Pearsaw, but it's

1412
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: just hanging up there and I'm like, someone is gonna, yeah,

1413
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: knock that away or intercept it. But Pearsaw comes back

1414
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: for the ball. And there were a couple of plays

1415
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: like that where I just thought it was good teamwork,

1416
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: like good good receiving. Kendrick Bourne had three catches in

1417
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: this game, but they all felt like big plays, like

1418
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: he was playing a lot. And I think CMC's juice

1419
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: is back. I was a little bit on cmc juice

1420
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: watch last week. Oh not that he's on the juice,

1421
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: but just like I didn't see quite the explosion. There

1422
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: have been accusations, not by me, this one more just

1423
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: like he actually played I think with a little more

1424
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: explosion like he warmed up last week.

1425
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean watching his movement on that touchdown route

1426
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 3: that he ran. But then also and I don't I

1427
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 3: realized just now I sounded like I was like not

1428
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 3: giving mac Jones credit for making a couple of good throws.

1429
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 5: One that the Juwan Dennings big gain touchdown.

1430
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 3: That's a timing throw, like you have to really understand

1431
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 3: exactly when the receiver is going to hit the void

1432
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 3: between all of the defenders at the exact perfect time,

1433
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 3: and understand where you've got to put the ball at

1434
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 3: a certain point in your drop right, and then the

1435
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 3: CMC touchdown, you have to drop that pass up and

1436
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 3: over the top of the defender without getting a lot

1437
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 3: of reps to do that with the running back in practice,

1438
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 3: because Christian McCaffrey is still on that sort of like

1439
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 3: half practice workload, right because he's been doing that that's

1440
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 3: his quote unquote normal load management. So I want to

1441
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 3: give mac Jones the credit there. I'm just saying that,

1442
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 3: like this cast, even without George Kittle as a security blanket,

1443
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 3: has plenty of players who are willing and able to

1444
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 3: also come and help the quarterback as well as the

1445
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 3: head coach scheming things up.

1446
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta be a frustrating game, I think for

1447
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: the Saints when they look back at it. Again, they

1448
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: look good when they're playing fast in hurry up.

1449
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: Spencer Ratler had a similar day to a week ago.

1450
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 2: I mean you look at it.

1451
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,560
Speaker 1: He throws at three, you know, for two hundred and

1452
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 1: seven yards and three touchdowns on thirty four like only

1453
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 1: nine incompletions and some of the prettiest passes you'll see,

1454
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: Like he just dropped a dime to Shaheed in the

1455
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,919
Speaker 1: first half of this game. There was a great touchdown

1456
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: to Vela even though it was short, like it was

1457
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: the right read a Lave, like he had some dimes,

1458
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,759
Speaker 1: but the timing was just a little off a couple times,

1459
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: like they could have gone up an early touchdown and

1460
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: he misses a Lave who's wide open because he's just

1461
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 1: a little early on the throw. And like just missing

1462
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: a lot of drops too for the Saints offense. Johnson

1463
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: couple Juwan Johnson had at least two or three. They

1464
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: had four drops in the first half, like a lot

1465
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: of penalties. So just too many mistakes by the Saints

1466
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: for the second straight week. Though they were competitive. Let's

1467
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: take a break and afterwards we're gonna be welcoming in

1468
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: Nick Schuk to talk about maybe the game of the day.

1469
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 20: Okay, right, hash forty six win the game, good operation

1470
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 20: forty six.

1471
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 5: The kick.

1472
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 14: Wins the game, Butter TX for Butter.

1473
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 20: Cowboys wins in overtime forty to forty seven.

1474
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 14: But you're glad you played attention.

1475
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: To this kid.

1476
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 2: I am. That's Sam God, Brad Sham k rl D.

1477
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 1: Brandon Aubrey really is smooth like Butter. Apparently, uh Cowboys

1478
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: crew and Eric was listening in. We're talking about Brandon

1479
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: Aubrey at the end of regulation when they when they

1480
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: asked him to hit that sixty four yard and they

1481
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:46,679
Speaker 1: tried to ice him, and they were saying, you can't

1482
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: ice Butter. You can't ice Butter, and Brandon Aubrey agrees,

1483
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: and he becomes literally the only man in the history

1484
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: of this great league.

1485
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 2: Nick Schook to hit a game.

1486
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 1: Tying field go at the buzzer and a game winning

1487
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: field goal at the buzzer in overtime, which isn't shocking

1488
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: because how many you know, game winning field goals have

1489
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,440
Speaker 1: there been at the buzzer in overtime?

1490
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 2: Not a lot, Nick Shook.

1491
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: And if I was going to guess one kicker to

1492
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: do that, especially hidden from sixty four in regulation, it

1493
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:17,839
Speaker 1: was Brandon Aubrey.

1494
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 2: So much happened in this game, Nick.

1495
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: The fourth quarter began with the score seventeen to sixteen,

1496
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys winning. The game ended forty to thirty seven.

1497
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 1: I don't envy you choosing where to even start talking

1498
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: about this, Nick, so I just give the floor to you.

1499
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 14: Well, I hate to start with the loser, but the

1500
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 14: narrative going to this game was Russell Wilson should be

1501
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 14: benched for Jackson Dart. This might be his last ditch

1502
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 14: attempt to get the job. And then he threw for

1503
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 14: four hundred and fifty yards and three touchdowns, and the

1504
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 14: people on the broadcast were essentially comparing him to old

1505
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 14: Seattle Russ and they even made a let Russ Cook

1506
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 14: mention during the show. That was the story of this

1507
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 14: game until he threw an interception in overtime, which then

1508
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 14: set up the Cowboys to lean on Brandon Aubrey to

1509
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 14: hit that field goal, which, by the way, I've never

1510
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 14: felt more confident in the kicker making, and that felt

1511
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 14: like a chip shot for me, just watching like he's

1512
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 14: definitely gonna make this, Like I'd put my whole life

1513
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 14: on the fact that he's going to make this field

1514
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 14: goal right now, which he did. The crazier thing and

1515
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 14: Mina tweeted this out is it was diabolical that they

1516
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 14: would run a draw to set up a sixty four

1517
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 14: yarder for Brandon Aubrey to go to overtime. That's just

1518
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 14: how much of a weapon he is. And it's obviously

1519
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 14: huge because it won the game at cents overtime and

1520
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 14: then won the game. But there's so much more to

1521
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 14: unpack a quarterback duel almost identical games. They each threw

1522
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 14: a pretty bad interception, one costs one team more than

1523
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 14: the other. You had receivers making plays for the Giants,

1524
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 14: it was meliek Neighbors and Wandale Robinson. For the Cowboys,

1525
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 14: it was Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens and Jake Ferguson.

1526
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 14: And you had random breakdowns and coverage defense didn't exist

1527
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 14: in the fourth quarter. It was high octane football. It

1528
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 14: was fitting of AT and T Stadium and Jerry World,

1529
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 14: and it's perfect that it was between the Cowboys and

1530
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 14: the New York Giants.

1531
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:11,560
Speaker 1: Some of the touchdowns in this game were so incredible.

1532
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't know which one to even choose, but I

1533
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: do think we should back it up to the final

1534
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 1: minute because George Pickens catches a touchdown from Dak Prescott,

1535
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: who played outstanding again three sixty one and two to

1536
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: go up thirty four to thirty and it's back and

1537
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: forth all fourth grade. There's only fifty two seconds left

1538
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 1: at that point, and the Giants need a touchdown to

1539
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: potentially win the game. And that's exactly what they get.

1540
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 1: Only twenty seven seconds later.

1541
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 8: Wilson out of the shotguns set on a second and ten.

1542
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 16: Drops back hastime deep ball downfield looking for Neighbors.

1543
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 6: Who takes the room in double.

1544
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 21: Coverage fortier yard touchdown pass Wilson Neighbors pivot Giants takes

1545
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 21: the league. Oh boy, there were two defenders draped down

1546
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 21: a Carl and Russell. Wilson with this classic bootball delivers

1547
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 21: for the Giants.

1548
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: We could show highlights of this game like all day

1549
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: Nick that the early Neighbors touchdown was like one of

1550
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: the best plays that you could ever see out of

1551
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Wandel had that fourth quarter like he

1552
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 1: ends up with one hundred and forty two yards, Neighbors

1553
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: ends up with one sixty seven, Like are you more

1554
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 1: worried about the Dallas defense or just impressed that the

1555
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: Giants could do this without much of a running game today.

1556
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 14: Well, I want to point first to that call because

1557
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 14: whoever was doing the color commentary there just like softly said,

1558
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 14: oh boy, as if like he needed to sit down

1559
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 14: and like take a breath.

1560
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 1: That was Carl Banks. That was Giant's legend. Carl Banks,

1561
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: thank you for pointing that out. And Bob Papa on Wfan.

1562
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 14: It was fitting of the day because you could take

1563
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 14: this in so many different directions. Am I more concerned

1564
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 14: about the Cowboys? I mean, this is the Cowboys defense.

1565
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 14: We thought, right, we talked about this last week. Great,

1566
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 14: they're gonna be an offense team. We know that they're

1567
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 14: weak on defense. And it did not shock me at

1568
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 14: all that Wandale's going right down the middle of the

1569
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 14: field for huge gains through the air. It happened early

1570
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 14: in the game and then was brought back by penalty.

1571
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 14: The Giants started this game very sloppily. There was four

1572
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 14: straight penalties on Hudson, the tackle, the backup tackle who

1573
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 14: was in there for Andrew Thomas. He had like a

1574
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 14: mini meltdown on the field. Four straight penalties in the

1575
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 14: first quarter. The broadcast team was like you have to

1576
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 14: take him out now, right, like you've got to make

1577
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:25,759
Speaker 14: the change.

1578
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: These are disaster and they did and they got better

1579
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: immediately with Marcus yesbo or whatever I over you say

1580
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: that name.

1581
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 14: Yes, So like that was concerning. I'm not concerned about

1582
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 14: the Cowboys defense. I'm not at all shocked by it.

1583
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 14: I just feel bad for the Giants that are now

1584
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:42,839
Speaker 14: they're not zero and too, and they played their tails

1585
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 14: off in this game like they were not the Giants

1586
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 14: team of last week. They were still limited in the

1587
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 14: red zone early and then they broke through in a

1588
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 14: big way and they were making splash plays all afternoon.

1589
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 14: And I'm like, this is the Brian Davile offense we

1590
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 14: always imagined it to be in New York, and yet

1591
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 14: they still come out on the losing side of the ledger.

1592
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 14: The Cowboys are just gonna to put up a lot

1593
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 14: of points this season. It's just it's who they are.

1594
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 14: They can't cover effectively. We know Trevon Diggs is still

1595
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 14: like he didn't start the season one hundred percent healthy

1596
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 14: and at one hundred percent participation rate that continues to increase.

1597
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 14: But we just know that they that they're lacking after

1598
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 14: they traded Micah Parsons and this is just their reality.

1599
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 9: Well it gets better because they signed to Davian Clowney.

1600
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 9: Oh boy, here we also announcing that.

1601
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a bad idea.

1602
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 6: They have a glaring needed edge for some reason, which.

1603
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 9: May kind of play into these moonball situations where if

1604
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 9: eleven at the time is on the field for the

1605
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 9: Dallas Cowboys, Yeah, typically the Russell Wilson isn't going to

1606
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 9: have time to make some of these throws where it's

1607
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 9: just but even like Pop Warner level, to let the

1608
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 9: league neighbors get behind you with twenty six seconds on

1609
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,600
Speaker 9: the clock is insane.

1610
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 2: To well and over and over in the game, like

1611
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 2: it wasn't the first time.

1612
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 9: And also like there was a bounce back game for

1613
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 9: CD got eleven targets, caught nine of them after all

1614
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 9: the drops you mentioned, Dak playing well and also Javonte Williams.

1615
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 2: He's back, He's full with that.

1616
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, like this is a contributing, viable Fantasy team member

1617
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 9: at this point.

1618
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: Of one hundred and thirty yards from scrimmage including six catches.

1619
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 9: But all the conversation about the Giants front and for

1620
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 9: all the bluster from Phillips and his personal beef with

1621
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 9: Ceedee Lamb and trying to slam him over. They struggled

1622
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 9: to cover him and Pickens, which is the vision coming in.

1623
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 3: I was hoping for points for this one because the

1624
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 3: Cowboys are a little last year's Bengalsey a little bit

1625
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 3: to me in terms of they are just going to

1626
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 3: have to score as many points as possible to even

1627
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 3: stay in these games.

1628
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 10: And I.

1629
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 3: Can't help myself. I find myself really liking watching this.

1630
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer, Yeah, I mean I just sort of am like,

1631
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 3: all right, well, we just won't really watch defense at

1632
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 3: this point because it's not really happening. But at the

1633
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 3: same time, Dak Prescott is playing some of the best

1634
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 3: football of any quarterback in the NFL right now, and

1635
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer is is calling a really smart game. His

1636
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 3: run game with Clayton Adams and Javonte Williams is so solid.

1637
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 3: Clayton Adams being the offensive coordinator and former offensive line

1638
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 3: coach he came over from Arizona. This is a really

1639
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,600
Speaker 3: really fun, risky offense. And then to the point of

1640
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 3: the Russell Wilson experience, man nobody's celebrating harder than I

1641
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 3: am seeing this totally vintage Russell Wilson moment. But then

1642
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 3: for every one of those, you get what happens in overtime,

1643
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 3: which is a bad decision on a moon ball by

1644
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson that's intercepted.

1645
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 1: Well, and that came after, you know, they're at a

1646
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: second and three situation, after the Giants defense stopped Dak

1647
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 1: Prescott in overtime, and I just figured first team with

1648
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: the ball wins, and the Giants get the ball and

1649
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 1: they're on a second and three after a good drive

1650
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: starter and Russell Wilson, like like, holds onto the ball

1651
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: and buy mistake, fumbles the ball backwards and that ends

1652
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: up killing that drive because he essentially just threw it

1653
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 1: backwards out of bounds. And then the interception just a

1654
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 1: brutal end to what it was otherwise like an incredible game,

1655
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: because it wouldn't it wouldn't be fair to say he

1656
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: had just as many mistakes as as good plays. He

1657
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: had a million good plays, and the mistakes came in overtime.

1658
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 3: Played great and the mistakes came when they absolutely could not.

1659
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 3: At the most crucial moment happened.

1660
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: But if his defense just get to stop at the

1661
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: end of the game or Brandon Aubrey then you were

1662
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 1: There were never.

1663
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 5: Even Giants giveth with Russell Wilson and they taketh away

1664
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 5: emblematic in this game.

1665
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 6: Which so much happened in this game, but I do

1666
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 6: have to mention it.

1667
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 9: There was a play where the Giants had three penalties

1668
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,839
Speaker 9: on one play if they were there was an illegal

1669
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 9: illegal hands roughing the passer on Dak Prescott and pass

1670
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 9: interference on Ceede Lamb in the end zone. But it

1671
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 9: got wiped away because CD celebrated the pass interference too vigorously.

1672
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 9: It was all wiped away off setting penalties, replayed the

1673
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 9: down and that was this game.

1674
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 6: In the nutshell.

1675
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: This is the number one draft pick in the in

1676
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: the game pass draft. Unless you're just in a hurry shook.

1677
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 1: It de bends what type of game you want to

1678
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 1: knock out first. You don't have to because you watched it.

1679
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: You also watch a classic. I'm gonna call it a classic.

1680
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: It was pretty fun in Lucas Oil Stadium.

1681
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 16: Three seconds left, the Colts could win it right here

1682
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 16: and right now. This will be the last play of

1683
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 16: the game. From now by two a sixty yard field

1684
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 16: goal from Spencer Strader Sanchez to put it down.

1685
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 14: Stamp placement kick. It's on its way, headed twenty uprights

1686
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 14: and it air is no good.

1687
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 2: It one's up short.

1688
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 6: Wait a minute, there's a flag.

1689
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 16: There's a flag on the field at the forty one

1690
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 16: yard line. Hang on just a second at flag on

1691
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 16: the play, first sip leverage defense and ninety say what

1692
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 16: about it?

1693
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 6: First down.

1694
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 12: Yarder?

1695
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 16: Oh boy, And this is much more manageable here for

1696
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 16: Spencer Schrader. This is a forty five yard try to

1697
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 16: win the game, no time left on the clock. Colts

1698
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 16: down by two, twenty eight to twenty six. San Chez

1699
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 16: to put it down. Here's the snap tick. It's on

1700
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:00,080
Speaker 16: its way, headed for the.

1701
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: Field goal.

1702
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 7: Spitzers Trader Ridget for the Colts coach twin twenty nine

1703
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 7: twenty age boll game.

1704
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 2: Why the ecstasy.

1705
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,520
Speaker 1: The agony just thirty seconds.

1706
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 2: Apart from Matt Taylor and Rick.

1707
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: Van Turrey on w F and why yes the Colts

1708
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: after thinking the game was over and if they had lost,

1709
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: because Shane Steichen had some of the most gutless pathetic

1710
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: play calling right before that field goal. Not that different,

1711
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: you know from what Shoty did with Dallas, but at

1712
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 1: least shot he's got. Brandon Aubrey gets another shot at it.

1713
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: Trader hits it.

1714
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 2: Shock you.

1715
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: You don't want to say a whole game came down

1716
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: to a one play, one penalty in this case, you know,

1717
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 1: kind of did.

1718
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 2: But the Colts won it twenty nine.

1719
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:58,679
Speaker 1: To twenty eight and did a lot of other good

1720
01:21:58,680 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: things in this game.

1721
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 14: Tell me, yeah, I mean, the whole game came down

1722
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 14: to two right feet, one owned by Spencer Strader, the

1723
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 14: other owned by Will Lutts. Will Lutz claimed the field

1724
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 14: goal off the upright, which kept us a two point

1725
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 14: game and gave the Colts just enough room to move

1726
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 14: down the field and miss and then actually make that

1727
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 14: field goal to win the game. But yeah, there was

1728
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:19,759
Speaker 14: a lot to like from both sides.

1729
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 6: You know.

1730
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 14: Daniel Jones has another solid day. I'm starting to accept

1731
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 14: that maybe this is Daniel Jones with Shane Steichen. Still

1732
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 14: a little too early to tell, you know, votes are

1733
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 14: still being tallied, It's too early to call the race.

1734
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 14: But right now as I see it, Daniel Jones looks

1735
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 14: very comfortable in this offense. He had another strong day.

1736
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 14: Jonathan Taylor brought great balance to this offense finishes with

1737
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 14: the one hundred and sixty five yards of twenty five attempts.

1738
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 14: He catches a long pass that sets up a score

1739
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 14: for them. They had some struggles in the red zone early,

1740
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 14: They had some struggles getting the ball in the end

1741
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 14: zone the fourth quarter, and yet somehow, some way, they

1742
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 14: make up a deficit with strictly field goals in the

1743
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 14: fourth quarter. That's how weird this game got. Spencer Schrader

1744
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 14: keeps his perfect career streak going because he got a

1745
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 14: second chance. He goes five for five today. Entering Sunday,

1746
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 14: he'd made all nine of his career attempts. He's as

1747
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 14: green as it gets. And yet he came through for them.

1748
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 14: And the Broncos go back to Denver at one in

1749
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 14: one thinking, how on earth did we just lose this game?

1750
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 14: Because they were seemingly a step ahead for most of

1751
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 14: this contest. They were good in the red zone early,

1752
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 14: Bonix was slaying the football over the field. You had

1753
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 14: nice runs from JK. Dobbins. Then you had him spike

1754
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 14: the ball, get a delay a game and other penalty follows.

1755
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 14: They knocked themselves out of scoring range, they stall, they

1756
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 14: shot themselves in the foot, a lot. I think in

1757
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 14: the second half of this game, which is Sean Payton's

1758
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 14: gonna watch this tape and be pretty frustrated know that

1759
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 14: they let one slip away, but it made for a

1760
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 14: great viewing experience for us.

1761
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 3: Nick, I have a question for you. I didn't get

1762
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 3: to have full view of this game. I was kind

1763
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 3: of flipping through a couple of others at the same time.

1764
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 3: And this Colt's team. I mean, I love that they're

1765
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 3: making plays on the ball. I love that they're aggressive.

1766
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 3: We've been calling at the end of renaissance for Louienna

1767
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 3: Rumo coming over there with a couple of playmakers. I

1768
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 3: really really appreciate, especially some of the things that's schematically

1769
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 3: Shane Steichen is doing balance. My question for you is,

1770
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 3: after watching especially this week two is less of a

1771
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 3: liar game against the top defense, do you think the

1772
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 3: Colts are bona fide legit.

1773
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 14: I mean there's there's levels to legitimus right, Like, what's

1774
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 14: too legit is the proper word, right, well, too legit

1775
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 14: to quit? No, I mean I think the levels are

1776
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 14: like they're legit enough to contend for the AFC South

1777
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 14: if they played this in a weekly basis because their

1778
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 14: defense is playing well enough to keep them in these

1779
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 14: games and their offense is balanced and effective through two weeks.

1780
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 14: So yeah, I do very much think that they're a

1781
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 14: team that's strong enough on both sides of the ball

1782
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 14: to not collapse or completely fall out of the AFC

1783
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 14: South race as they have in recent years. And we

1784
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 14: understand now after two games why Shane Steichen was so

1785
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 14: confident in his choice of Daniel Jones. You know, the

1786
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 14: proof is right there. We can just look at that

1787
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 14: and be like, all right, I get it, But there's

1788
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,759
Speaker 14: levels this because of the two defenses. I thought Denver's

1789
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 14: defense would play better in this game. And this is

1790
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 14: why the first month of the season is a liar

1791
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 14: to us, because we don't know a month from now,

1792
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 14: Denver's d events could be miles ahead of where the

1793
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 14: Colts are. But as we stand right now, they did

1794
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 14: a good enough job bottling up the Broncos, especially when

1795
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 14: it became very important in the second half and the

1796
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 14: fourth quarter specifically to get the job done. And that's

1797
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 14: really all we can measure them by right now. So yeah,

1798
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 14: my convoluted answer to that is.

1799
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 5: Yes and no.

1800
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 1: Like what I'm seeing, Wait, look they out gained him

1801
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: by one hundred and fifty yards, so it was not

1802
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 1: a cheap victory. The Colts did out gain the Broncos,

1803
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 1: and Danny Dimes through two weeks has five hundred and

1804
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 1: eighty eight yards passing.

1805
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 3: Is he playing himself on the quarterback Island?

1806
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 2: Five total touchdowns?

1807
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,719
Speaker 14: What's the most important at what's the most important stat

1808
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 14: with Daniel Jones?

1809
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 2: No turnovers?

1810
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:40,759
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1811
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 14: No turnover, no fumbles.

1812
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 2: Even not even like a fumble that he didn't lose.

1813
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 5: No freak no freakouts.

1814
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 1: Yet we're only two weeks in. That's the thing about

1815
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: quarterback Island. You need a little bit of stay in power.

1816
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 1: So if he stays at this level, I think it's

1817
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 1: fair to say right now through two weeks he is

1818
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: helping to find the quarterback position in twenty twenty five.

1819
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,759
Speaker 1: He is one of these stories in the NFL, so stiching,

1820
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 1: So is Tyler Warren who led them today.

1821
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 2: It's all two weeks.

1822
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah.

1823
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 3: That place where he came out of the backfield was

1824
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,640
Speaker 3: so much fun. Just shot him right up through the

1825
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 3: a gap on a sale concept.

1826
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:20,759
Speaker 5: I just I loved it so much.

1827
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 6: I'm thankful that he.

1828
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 5: Just made a noise like.

1829
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: A second, Like I loved it and the plane.

1830
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 5: Because you were off screen. You were off screen and

1831
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 5: you made the noise. Should I be here right.

1832
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 9: Now, it's gonna be We're gonna have shook sing underneath

1833
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 9: an entire cut up of Tyler Warren which through two weeks. Yeah,

1834
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 9: the criticism of like, oh, Penn State's forcing him opportunities. Yeah,

1835
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 9: you force them the ball, you get them the ball

1836
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 9: however you can, if you could snap the ball, I

1837
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:52,759
Speaker 9: have him do that too.

1838
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 1: Right, And I like, you know, Pierce, other than that

1839
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 1: one catch last week was quiet. Him and Josh Downs,

1840
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: who both didn't do much a week go, and we

1841
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: are both really good end up being really important parts

1842
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 1: of this game, whereas like Michael Pittman kind of takes

1843
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 1: a step back. There is diversity there. And Jonathan Taylor

1844
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen yards from scrimmage twenty five carries

1845
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:15,600
Speaker 1: two catches.

1846
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 2: That's pretty sweet.

1847
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,759
Speaker 1: Bo Nicks had a crucial interception in the second half.

1848
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: He said it was just a bad throw.

1849
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 2: He just missed.

1850
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: There was nothing confusing about it. Is interesting that JK.

1851
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 1: Dobbins got so much more of the workload than RJ.

1852
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 1: Harvey Troy Franklin with a breakout game eight for eighty nine,

1853
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 1: but the rest of the Broncos receivers didn't really get

1854
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: much going. No one else over twenty four yards of

1855
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 1: the Broncos a disappointing loss. We think of Sean Payton

1856
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: as a team that's really buttoned up, discipline, well coached.

1857
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: He said it after the game, like we gave this

1858
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 1: game away so many mental errors. The Colts are too

1859
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 1: to zero. Let's go down to the game that no

1860
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: one actually took. That was the game that we all

1861
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 1: kept deny on. Yes, things were bad in the AFC

1862
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: East coming into Sundays Dolphins and.

1863
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 18: Now it's going to be a fourth down and twelve

1864
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 18: for Miami right to kill up. It's going to Hill, Washington, Waddell,

1865
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 18: It's going to Hill, chand big pushing on the left side.

1866
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 2: As Takoby Loa takes the snap.

1867
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 18: He dropped back.

1868
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 2: He looked at it though he's press Williams take down

1869
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 2: to the backfield.

1870
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 10: I'm the Patriots on the verge of taking down Miami

1871
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 10: for the first time since twenty nineteen.

1872
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 2: Hill him South Florida.

1873
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:33,759
Speaker 1: That was Bob Sochi with Scott Zolac on WBZ. Wilton

1874
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 1: Williams got all that money for a reason. Moments like

1875
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 1: that sack to win the game, ending a disastrous final

1876
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: sequence for Tua Tongue of Iloa thirty three to twenty

1877
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:53,679
Speaker 1: seven in a back in fourth game. And I mentioned

1878
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 1: that sequence specifically because it really looked like whoever had

1879
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 1: the ball at the end was probably gonna win. And

1880
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 1: when the Dolphins got it and they had a short

1881
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 1: field to work with after you know, the rookie kicker

1882
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 1: for the Patriots, yeh didn't make it to the landing zone.

1883
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna go and make it happen.

1884
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: And to a Sales a wide open pass on first down.

1885
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 1: On third down, he leaves before he really needs to.

1886
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: He had a wide open receiver with a mismatch that

1887
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 1: Devon h Chan over the middle going up against a

1888
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 1: linebacker which was a mismatch all day, and his eyes

1889
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 1: go down and he almost kind of runs into the

1890
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,719
Speaker 1: sack on third down, and then he takes another sack

1891
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:37,480
Speaker 1: on fourth down, and it was just a really disappointing

1892
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:40,640
Speaker 1: lack of composure from to on a day that he

1893
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 1: played quite well until that moment. Mike McDaniel was very

1894
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: frustrated with that ending sequence.

1895
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 22: Ultimately, I look at absolutely everything falling on me, So

1896
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 22: I don't see you know, that's the responsibility of a

1897
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 22: head coach that you go into knowing that. That being said,

1898
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 22: I'm very frustrated with you know, collected. You know, there's

1899
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 22: some basically coaches and players that.

1900
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 5: Did not.

1901
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 22: Execute communication in a very dire period of the game.

1902
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 22: You know, with with the game on the line, our

1903
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 22: communication and our substitution was not.

1904
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 7: Up to par.

1905
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 22: We had the opportunity to win the game, and we

1906
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 22: robbed it from ourselves.

1907
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 1: So I said that to have played well for most

1908
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 1: of the game that you know, that was really the

1909
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 1: second and third quarters where they scored on every possession,

1910
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 1: but in the fourth quarter punt interception and downs, And

1911
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 1: I think the thing that killed McDaniel was the interception

1912
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 1: on fourth down to through on the previous possession where

1913
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 1: they barely got the playoff before that fourth down, and

1914
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 1: then he just threw a panic pick. And there were

1915
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,440
Speaker 1: some good things this game patrick for the Dolphins offensively,

1916
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: but not much on defense. And ultimately, it doesn't matter

1917
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 1: how you lose with this team, they just desperately needed

1918
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:08,640
Speaker 1: to win.

1919
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 2: They didn't get it.

1920
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 9: Even the guys who played well relatively today. Devon h

1921
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,680
Speaker 9: Chan had a touchdown reception. He had what could have

1922
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 9: been a go ahead score in the final minutes of

1923
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:20,679
Speaker 9: the game, but we thought it was stepped out of bounce.

1924
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,520
Speaker 6: He fully was celebrating.

1925
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 9: This was a game where you had Malik Washington have

1926
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:28,640
Speaker 9: a putt return the very next play. Antonio Gibson has

1927
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 9: a kickoff return for touchdowns. So many things happened where

1928
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 9: the Dolphins. If something good happened, they would immediately give

1929
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 9: it away. And the only reason the Dolphins didn't still

1930
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 9: have a streak of the opponent scoring on every single

1931
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 9: possession was because they that ah Chan score at the

1932
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 9: end of the first half didn't leave the Patriots enough time,

1933
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 9: so they kneeled out the clock. Otherwise the Colts and

1934
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 9: the Patriots would have gone three straight halfs of football,

1935
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 9: scoring every single time they got the ball. So it's

1936
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 9: a collective failure, as Mike points out, but everybody.

1937
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, right.

1938
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 1: And then even when they finally get a force a

1939
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: couple punts in the second half and actually stopped the

1940
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 1: Patriots and forced the field goal to give themselves another chance,

1941
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 1: there was a lot of mistakes by the Patriots at

1942
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: the end of this game, too special teams fails and

1943
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 1: the defense does give up a touchdown drive to where

1944
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 1: Ramandre you know, gets over on this long throw. Just

1945
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 1: a lot going wrong, but a lot went right for

1946
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 1: the Patriots offense too, on a day they needed it.

1947
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say this not to sound dramatic. It

1948
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,639
Speaker 3: will inevitably sound dramatic, like sort of like how Mike

1949
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 3: McDaniels sounded just now and that dramatic gesture at the

1950
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 3: end of the game when when Milton Williams got the

1951
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 3: sack and Mike McDaniels sort of like folded over on

1952
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 3: the sideline and disappointment. This very much feels like not

1953
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 3: only an offense, but a Patriots team that is on

1954
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 3: the rise of something or at the beginning of something

1955
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 3: in a positive way.

1956
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 5: They're starting to put different pieces together.

1957
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 3: Certainly you've seen that from some of their veteran Moulton

1958
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 3: Williams both weeks, but on their offensive side.

1959
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 5: Definitely saw more of that this week.

1960
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 3: And on the other hand, it feels like a Miami

1961
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:09,679
Speaker 3: Dolphins team that is very much at the end of something.

1962
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, seeing Tyreek Hill jump up and down being upset

1963
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 1: after to skies him with that pass.

1964
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 2: Shaking your head, shuck it.

1965
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 1: It's disappointing because look, Tyreek quent six for one oh

1966
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 1: nine and that was the only incompletion thrown his way.

1967
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:26,799
Speaker 1: But that's kind of where they're at, and their defense

1968
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 1: was terrible that this was a game with so few drives.

1969
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: The Patriots only had seven drives in this game, and

1970
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 1: Drake May was really efficient with those drives.

1971
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm shaking my head because you're right about Tyreek Hill.

1972
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 14: I mean even the body language. He catches a long

1973
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 14: pass down the sideline and he goes to try to

1974
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 14: make a move and then gets frustrated that he has

1975
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 14: to step out of bounds and you can just see

1976
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,799
Speaker 14: it in his body language in that moment, how irritated

1977
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:50,680
Speaker 14: is that he can't make a bigger impact. But I

1978
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 14: was really shaking my head because Jordan said exactly what

1979
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 14: I was thinking. It feels like two ships passing the night,

1980
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,560
Speaker 14: going in opposite directions. This is the checkpoint, this is

1981
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 14: where we're going to look back. I think that's when

1982
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 14: the Patriots to turn their first initial corner, and that

1983
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 14: was the first real sign that the Dolphins are going

1984
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 14: toward a dark place under this current regime, because they're

1985
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 14: close in terms of how they competed against each other

1986
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 14: today and not even the final result, but just how

1987
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 14: they conducted themselves. And that's concerning for the Dolphins and

1988
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 14: encouraging for the Patriots. Watching Mike Vrabels sprint down the

1989
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 14: sideline following Antonio Gibson on that kick return touchdown, I

1990
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 14: was like, he's having fun. He's back to enjoying coaching.

1991
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 14: This is a landmark moment for the Patriots under Mike Rable.

1992
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 14: I know it's only week two, but this is something

1993
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 14: they're going to look back at and be like, that

1994
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:35,839
Speaker 14: was it right there. Whereas the Dolphins, everything is difficult

1995
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:37,600
Speaker 14: for them. The defense that we thought was going to

1996
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 14: be their strength, especially that front seven, fails to consistently

1997
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 14: cause issues. Now they go after Drake May a couple

1998
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 14: of times, but it just wasn't consistent enough to short

1999
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,600
Speaker 14: circuit this offense. You're giving up jump not even a

2000
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 14: jump ball, just so fifty to fifty one on one

2001
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 14: shot to Kaishan booting the end zone where he makes

2002
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 14: a great grab, but you're giving that up for a touchdown.

2003
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:54,599
Speaker 14: That's a play that you should be able to bat down.

2004
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 14: That's just the state of your team right now. And

2005
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 14: even on a day in which to A plays well

2006
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 14: for most of the game, they crumb in that final

2007
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 14: sequence where he just seemed like he was overwhelmed by it.

2008
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 14: And that's not acceptable for a guy who has as

2009
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 14: much experience as he does, especially when he's tasked with

2010
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 14: carrying this team and they just haven't been able to

2011
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 14: execute this year.

2012
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably won't see a sequence the rest of

2013
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: the year. A seventy four yard punt return touchdown by

2014
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: Malik Washington, as Patrick mentioned earlier, followed by the ninety

2015
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 1: yard kickoff Thurn touchdown, and Stefan Diggs was quoted after

2016
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 1: the game asked, you know if he saw Vrabel running

2017
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 1: down the sidelines on that kickoff return. He said, yeah,

2018
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 1: I saw. I just saw a clip of it. He's

2019
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 1: slow as hell, It's true. He definitely looked. He played

2020
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 1: a lot of NFL football and it's taken a little

2021
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 1: out of Mike Rabel, but they got to enjoy a win.

2022
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 1: And I got a text during at the end of

2023
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 1: this game from a front of the show, Ollie Connelly,

2024
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 1: who noted the first game of Drake May's career where

2025
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 1: he faced under twenty percent pressure rate and he shredded,

2026
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 1: you know, twenty three attempts for two hundred and thirty

2027
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:56,680
Speaker 1: yards in two touchdowns. If you protect this guy, he

2028
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 1: can perform. And actually when he was under pressure in

2029
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,839
Speaker 1: this game for five for one hundred and five yards,

2030
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 1: including that great throw to Romandre. So on a day

2031
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 1: where they got almost nothing out of their wide receivers,

2032
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 1: he was just spreading around to Hooper and Stevenson and

2033
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 1: Henry and just each receiver making like one play.

2034
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,719
Speaker 5: It was enough. Any moved he wasn't afraid to move around.

2035
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, ten rushes for thirty one yards. I think that

2036
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 1: includes some kneel downs too in the touchdown and Remandre

2037
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 1: don't dig dirt on his career yet. Trevion Henderson is

2038
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:26,679
Speaker 1: not playing that much right now. I think he will

2039
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:28,719
Speaker 1: in the end. But only sixteen snaps for him today,

2040
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 1: whereas Ramandre had one hundred and forty two yards from scrimmage.

2041
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 1: They get the first win of the mic Bable era.

2042
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 1: Let's go to Baltimore to wrap up our little nick

2043
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 1: shook four pack.

2044
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 10: Tamar from the gun will throw lofts it near sideline

2045
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 10: looking for Hopkins and JOm that's a j.

2046
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 19: One touchdown DeAndre Hopkins and they're not gonna overrule that one.

2047
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:58,480
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's unbelievable.

2048
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 18: Lamar just put a loft on that ball and then

2049
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 18: lets Hopkins make them move on the ball.

2050
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 1: Breaking news from Rod Woodson on wb AL DeAndre Hopkins

2051
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 1: has great hands.

2052
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:11,599
Speaker 2: Always good to hear.

2053
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 1: Jerry Sandusky on the show forty one to seventeen. Yes,

2054
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 1: Nuke has put a highlight touchdown on the board back

2055
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 1: to back weeks, even though he's not getting like a

2056
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 1: ton of snaps. They'll take that if that can continue

2057
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 1: all season. Shook a game where you look at the

2058
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 1: box score and it's thoroughly confusing that the Browns ran

2059
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 1: almost twenty more plays than the Ravens, gained eighty more

2060
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 1: yards than the Ravens, and yet the score was forty

2061
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:44,440
Speaker 1: one to ten until a late Dylan Gabriel touchdown.

2062
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:46,879
Speaker 2: That's how ugly this one got for the Browns.

2063
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 14: That's gonna be the theme of the brown season, and

2064
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 14: not to start with a loser, but it's just too

2065
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 14: fitting the twenty twenty five Cleveland Browns. How the hell

2066
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:56,640
Speaker 14: did this happen? That's just what the whole season is

2067
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:58,559
Speaker 14: going to be It's gonna be their slogan, because once

2068
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 14: again in the second straight week, they didn't really dominate

2069
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 14: in the box score, but they did succeed in the

2070
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 14: box score, and they lose this time by a wide

2071
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:08,679
Speaker 14: margin the Ravens. You know, this is a difference between

2072
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 14: a team that knows how to win, has been there before,

2073
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 14: and is going to be a title contender, and a

2074
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 14: team that is very far from being that. And I

2075
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 14: don't want to point to the details like I did

2076
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 14: last week with the Browns, but it wasn't the details.

2077
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 14: It's also in the fact that no matter how well

2078
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 14: their defense plays, their offense is so limited that there

2079
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 14: they have to be almost perfect to have a shot

2080
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 14: against a team like Baltimore. Baltimore gets the job done

2081
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 14: by look, their offense struggled, but they had a blocked punt,

2082
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 14: They capitalized in the short field there for points. They

2083
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 14: just consistently capitalized in the Browns small mistakes and then

2084
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 14: ran away with it in the fourth quarter because they

2085
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 14: are a team that is still producing explosive plays. We

2086
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 14: had multiple touchdown passes of twenty plus yards tas Walker

2087
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:49,720
Speaker 14: continues his streak of only catching touchdown passes. He's got

2088
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 14: three career receptions, they've all gone for touchdown.

2089
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:56,799
Speaker 2: It's like a little different but similar vibe.

2090
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, similar vibes Yeah and yeah again. Like when

2091
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 14: you watch this game, you think two things. Brown's defense

2092
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 14: is playing well, they're keeping them in this game. The

2093
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 14: Ravens are eventually going to break through that, and the

2094
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 14: Browns offense is not going to have a shot to

2095
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 14: keep up. Joe Flacco looked very old and slow today.

2096
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 14: There was a couple instances in which he tried to

2097
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,640
Speaker 14: scramble and it looked like he was running in quicksand

2098
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:19,600
Speaker 14: with concrete shoes. It was that slow. He throws a

2099
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:22,560
Speaker 14: pick on one of those scrambles. Nate Wiggins returns it,

2100
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:24,679
Speaker 14: and we know how fast Nate Wiggins is. Flacco tries

2101
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 14: to double back and catch him. He's getting out run

2102
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 14: by Joel Buttonio to tackle Nate Wiggins and prevent him

2103
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 14: from scoring a touchdown on that interception. So not to

2104
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:37,639
Speaker 14: knock on Flacco, but it's rough watching this Browns offense.

2105
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 14: And this is exactly what I expect the team like

2106
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 14: the Ravens to do in a game like this.

2107
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 9: Shook, I could not disagree more, Andrew Wiggins gets in

2108
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,919
Speaker 9: the end zone if not for Joe Flacco hit sixteen

2109
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 9: point eight miles per hour.

2110
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 6: Oh come back, no go, watch the playgous.

2111
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:53,360
Speaker 5: He threw the chip, He took the chip out of

2112
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 5: his jersey, threw sixteen.

2113
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 1: Point Eight's not that fast. Nate Wiggins, by the way,

2114
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins.

2115
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, a star. Yeah, I called cam buying

2116
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 6: them Andrew bid him earlier.

2117
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 9: So it's both two of those things as I'm falling apart.

2118
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 9: But like, yeah, Joe Flacco is hanging in there at

2119
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 9: his advanced stage. I'm clearly experiencing cognitive clime. But Joe

2120
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 9: Flacco is making plays on defense, which is not what

2121
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 9: you want as a Browns fan. And yeah, it Shook

2122
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:24,639
Speaker 9: pointed it all out. The Browns defense could have been

2123
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 9: a problem.

2124
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 2: It's going to be a good defense this year.

2125
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 9: Derrick Henry could get nothing going on the ground, and

2126
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 9: there was pressure on La Mar from Miles Garrett. On

2127
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 9: a key play where Mark Andrews scored a touchdown, John

2128
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:38,719
Speaker 9: Harball for some reason, has the challenge flag in his hands,

2129
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 9: is looking at this on the replay board, puts it

2130
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 9: back in. Took so long to make the decision. They

2131
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 9: barely get the snap off in time. Of course, Miles

2132
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 9: Garrett's looking at the clock, gets a sack out of it.

2133
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 9: But I mean that's picking and choosing what to be

2134
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 9: frustrated about when that they were uneasily.

2135
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you had told me, like Derrick Henry's held

2136
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 1: the twenty three yards, I mean Grant Delpit justice for Grant.

2137
01:40:59,400 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 2: He was right.

2138
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 1: It was easy to tackle Dereck Henry, at least for

2139
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:05,000
Speaker 1: this Browns team. Apparently like that, he gets out rushed

2140
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 1: by Jerome Ford six for thirty one and then quich

2141
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 1: shot Junkins end up playing a lot, and I know

2142
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:10,639
Speaker 1: some of it's in garbage time ten for sixty one.

2143
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 1: Like you would have thought they were more in this

2144
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 1: game than they were. It's too bad because I think

2145
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:18,919
Speaker 1: they have a lot of They have two great defensive

2146
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 1: players in Miles Garrett and Denz Award. And Miles Garrett

2147
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:24,759
Speaker 1: after the game was pretty upset.

2148
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:28,719
Speaker 11: It's embarrassing and we got to be better on defense.

2149
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 11: We gotta be better as a team. Know they slowly

2150
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 11: chipped away, No, we did know a solid job, no

2151
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:38,600
Speaker 11: holding the three when we could, and then eventually the

2152
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:41,080
Speaker 11: damn broke and then they just did whatever they wanted

2153
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 11: and we have to continue to play a sixty minute.

2154
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 1: Game while we're listening to some sound. I loved his bluntness.

2155
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 1: I also loved Lamar Jackson just having a little fun

2156
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:55,679
Speaker 1: after the game, a little subtle fun.

2157
01:41:55,800 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 23: You look, extremely maturity. Turn those kelp whom points off

2158
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 23: the board. Shut that wild touch now. But those guys

2159
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 23: just did they none eleven.

2160
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:07,680
Speaker 6: You know they did it. I'm sorry I shouldn't say that.

2161
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:09,679
Speaker 23: You know, they might turn this into a meme with somebody,

2162
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 23: and you know, we just did the whole thing. But

2163
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 23: they do what they're supposed to do to the Uh.

2164
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2165
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:17,679
Speaker 1: That was a reference to Marlon Humphrey last week saying

2166
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:19,760
Speaker 1: the Ravens defense needs to work on our maturity, and

2167
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:23,639
Speaker 1: then Kyle Hamilton kind of shot right back at Marlon Humphrey.

2168
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:25,280
Speaker 1: During the week, it was like a fun little back

2169
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 1: and forth of what they thought. And now it's all

2170
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 1: over because the Ravens won.

2171
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 3: I just want to take this moment to salute Greg

2172
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:37,639
Speaker 3: Rosenthal for true profiles of courage in picking this game,

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01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 3: as in the Ravens as his survivor pick this week.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you know how a survivor pool they're

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01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 1: supposed to work that you let's go.

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01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 3: You from the jump, would be so lopsided that you

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01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 3: did not even try to pick even something you knew

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01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 3: would be close, such as myself in week one.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you understand what the survivor pools are

2180
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 1: supposed to be.

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01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 5: I don't think you understand.

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01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: You want to pick the one that you think is

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01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 1: the easiest. In fact, stupidly thought the Browns we're going

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01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 1: to cover this eleven and a half.

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01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 5: I apologize, I understand.

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01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 1: I apologize for so the picks listeners out there. Yes,

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01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 1: let's go. We all survived, except for Steve Weis, who

2188
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,559
Speaker 1: I had asked he was not on the Wednesday show

2189
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 1: for a survivor pick via text, and he did send

2190
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: it to me that he had taken the dolphins of

2191
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 1: all teams. And so, oh, I guess it's just down

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01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 1: to me and you, Jordan, trying to help out our

2193
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 1: listeners by giving them the best possibly with one eye opened.

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01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 9: The survivors need you, guys to be eliminated, because the

2195
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 9: best possible survivor is all of us working together.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the best survivor pick is no it's me the

2197
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 1: friends we made along the way. Was a joy to

2198
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 1: have Jordan and Patrick along for the ride on this

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Speaker 1: week two recap.

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01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 2: Oh, it was a big one.

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Speaker 1: We're going to say goodbye to you guys now and

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01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 1: then we're going to come back after the break with

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01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 1: me and Nick Schook talking a little Sunday Night football.

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01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 2: Bang up, job, you survived.

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01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 6: We made it. We did. Shout out to Andrew.

2206
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 5: Wiggins fourteen hours later.

2207
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 6: Who for Toriano in motion?

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01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:16,919
Speaker 10: We're gonna hand it down, jeer Tyler Raljiers score standing.

2209
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:21,559
Speaker 10: Minnesota might have let him score it, but Tyler Aljier

2210
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 10: goes in with his first score of the year and

2211
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,000
Speaker 10: his eleventh career rushing touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Oh they all can't be beauties. Sunday Night Football, for

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01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 1: one of the first times I can remember, maybe had

2214
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 1: the worst game of the week. Twenty two to six

2215
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 1: Falcons beat the Vikings. There was not a touchdown until

2216
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,560
Speaker 1: late in the game when you heard it the Vikings

2217
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:50,600
Speaker 1: scored it or let the Falcons score touchdown. I'm not

2218
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 1: really sure why they did that at that point anyways,

2219
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:55,680
Speaker 1: I guess their best chance was scoring a couple of

2220
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 1: very quick touchdowns that was not gonna happen the way

2221
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 1: that JJ McCarthy looked on Sunday night shook. We said

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01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 1: goodbye to Jordan and Patrick, and for most of this

2223
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 1: night we said goodbye to a passing game for both teams.

2224
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 1: But the running game for the Falcons was awesome. When

2225
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 1: you ask Rahie Morris what he wanted to see out

2226
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 1: of the two thousand and twenty five Atlanta Falcons, I

2227
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:24,679
Speaker 1: think he would want it to look exactly like Todaight.

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01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 2: Who needs to.

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01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:27,839
Speaker 1: Pass when you could run the ball for two hundred

2230
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:32,799
Speaker 1: and eighteen yards while sacking J. J. McCarthy six times.

2231
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 1: This is rahembaugh.

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01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:38,679
Speaker 14: This is old school control the game football right here.

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01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:41,679
Speaker 14: And they set the tone from the first two plays

2234
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 14: from scrimmage on the night. It was a twenty five

2235
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 14: yard Vjon Robinson run to the left tackle. It was

2236
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 14: a seventeen yard run Jon Robinson run to the right

2237
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:50,640
Speaker 14: tackle to a five yard run. They didn't stop him

2238
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 14: until his fourth at tenth. At that point they were

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01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 14: at the Minnesota eighteen. Yes, they didn't score a touchdown

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Speaker 14: until you know, the Vikings let them score late in

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01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 14: the game, But it seemed like they really controlled the

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01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 14: game on both sides of the ball, And what's the

2243
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 14: theme usually when you run the ball? Well, now, Bejon's

2244
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:05,840
Speaker 14: a bit of an outlier, but the theme usually is

2245
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:08,479
Speaker 14: that you control the game in the trenches, and that

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01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 14: almost always explains why a team could run well, except

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01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 14: you add Bejon into it, and it's like another fifty

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01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 14: yards because he makes guys miss. He's just one of

2249
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 14: the most elusive and explosive running back in the NFL.

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Speaker 14: It's a true treat to watch him run the ball.

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Speaker 14: So those of you who think, oh, they didn't score

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01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 14: a touchdown till the fourth quarter, why would I go

2253
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 14: back and watch this? Because you like a special running back.

2254
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 14: You like Jon Robinson, and you like it when the

2255
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 14: Falcons investment in two edge rushers pays off on the

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Speaker 14: defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Well, Bejon's athleticism is just nuts. He had five plays

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01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 1: in that game that were just incredible. One of those

2259
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 1: three yard runs which set up the fourth down that

2260
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 1: they picked up late in the game, was just like,

2261
01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:50,960
Speaker 1: absolutely awesome. I had a friend who texted me and

2262
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:54,200
Speaker 1: he's like a very casual football fan, and he was

2263
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 1: just like, watching Jon Robinson is a total joy. And

2264
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 1: then the next text of course, and that's the only

2265
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 1: thing that's joyous about this game.

2266
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:05,639
Speaker 2: But it's funny you mentioned fifty yards more.

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01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:09,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had one hundred and sixty expected rushing yards

2268
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:11,840
Speaker 1: in this game, which it would have been great on

2269
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 1: the attempts that they had, and then he added fifty

2270
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 1: eight essentially over expected with a little help.

2271
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 14: I said that without knowing that that's amazing.

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01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 1: It's yeah, with a little help from Tyler Algier. I've

2273
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 1: always thought, you know, that's how you attack this Brian

2274
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 1: Flores defense. This wasn't the normal Brian Flores defense because

2275
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:31,040
Speaker 1: of injuries. Andrew van Ginkel was out, Jeffakuda, who is

2276
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 1: starting for them, was out, Harrison Smith was out again

2277
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 1: with an illness, Brian Cashman has been out, and then

2278
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:37,960
Speaker 1: more importantly than all that, actually I think was an

2279
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 1: offensive injury without Christian dearisod the last two weeks their

2280
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 1: left tackle justin school has been a disaster. So you

2281
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 1: mentioned the investment in the pass protection, I mean the

2282
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:51,559
Speaker 1: pass rush for the Falcons and Jalen Walker his first

2283
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 1: career sack, was beating School cleanly and really all night

2284
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 1: School was struggling until he actually left very late into

2285
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:03,920
Speaker 1: the concussion protocol unfortunately, but they have not looked good

2286
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 1: protecting JJ McCarthy and JJ McCarthy looked like he looked

2287
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 1: for the first three quarters last week. This time he

2288
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 1: just didn't have that turnaround. He has two interceptions in

2289
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 1: this game, only one hundred and fifty eight yards, a

2290
01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 1: fumble on a play where he was trying to do

2291
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 1: a fake, a fumble on a fourth and one. I'm

2292
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,160
Speaker 1: a little concerned how this season has started for them.

2293
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:30,599
Speaker 1: I think that fourth quarter, which only really happened because

2294
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 1: their defense kept getting them the ball back over and

2295
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:35,800
Speaker 1: over and over, overshadowed, you know, one of the worst

2296
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,599
Speaker 1: quarterback performances of the week in Week one until that moment,

2297
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:40,120
Speaker 1: and then he ends up as a Player of the week.

2298
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:43,160
Speaker 1: It's a long, long season. They're one and one, no

2299
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:46,400
Speaker 1: reason to panic, but it's been disappointing through two weeks.

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01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think this game is a bit of an

2301
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 14: outlier when it comes to evaluating the Vikings over the

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01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 14: course of a full season because of the guys they

2303
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 14: were missing defensively and it contributed them not being able

2304
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:55,800
Speaker 14: to stop the run. But really it comes down to

2305
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 14: Chrusian Darisaol, like you highlighted because I mean, the left tackle.

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01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:02,320
Speaker 14: For as long as we've been a pass first league,

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01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 14: which we're going on, you know, two three decades, this

2308
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:06,800
Speaker 14: now has been the most important blocker for a right

2309
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:08,760
Speaker 14: handed quarterback. It's the blind side. It's the guy that

2310
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:09,960
Speaker 14: you have to trust. And it was a guy that

2311
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 14: they completely and repeatedly victimized on Sunday night in order

2312
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 14: to get after just or J. J. McCarthy. And the

2313
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 14: thing is essentially a rookie quarterback here, Like I know

2314
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 14: it's the second year but essentially a rookie quarterback. How

2315
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 14: do you get him, you know, comfortable and then a rhythm.

2316
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 14: You've got to protect him first and foremost, and they

2317
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 14: just didn't do that well. The Falcons uh passed the

2318
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:31,439
Speaker 14: past rus The pressure rate was over fifty percent tonight,

2319
01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 14: Like you're never gonna get going when that's the case.

2320
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,240
Speaker 14: When you have a young quarterback who's facing a pressure

2321
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 14: rate of fifty three point three percent, it's just not

2322
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 14: gonna happen. He's not going to get into rhythm. And

2323
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 14: it was kind of illustrated. I think their last ditch

2324
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 14: attempt in the fourth quarter when he sales one deep

2325
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 14: looking for Jalen Naylor, who was open, but he missed

2326
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 14: him by about four or five yards. It was just

2327
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 14: a microcosm of how things just haven't gone right for them.

2328
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 14: But I also would not hit the panic button on

2329
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 14: them because they need guys to come back. I trust

2330
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:58,640
Speaker 14: the culture and of n and Kevin O'Connell's experience in

2331
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:00,439
Speaker 14: guiding this team. It's just going to take some time

2332
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 14: when you face teams that are able to capitalize on

2333
01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:04,799
Speaker 14: your weaknesses because of the absence is due to injury.

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01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 1: Agree, But I also think we can take lessons from

2335
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 1: the first few weeks and think about team profiles being

2336
01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:14,400
Speaker 1: maybe a little different than than we expected. And just

2337
01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 1: with them, I just think they're not going to be

2338
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 1: able to count on their passing game early in the

2339
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 1: season as much. They're going to need their defense to

2340
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 1: carry them, and they need to get healthier. And then

2341
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 1: the bigger takeaway for me both weeks, I've been impressed

2342
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 1: by the Falcon secondary. I mentioned Xavier Watts coming into

2343
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:35,120
Speaker 1: this game. He made a great interception. Another rookie, Billy Bowman,

2344
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:38,839
Speaker 1: was all over the place, almost had an interception himself,

2345
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 1: and made a couple big plays. They have Jesse Bates

2346
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,519
Speaker 1: out there. I think JJ McCarthy had about four or

2347
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 1: five plays tonight where he learned NFL athleticism is different

2348
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 1: than college athleticism on some of those sacks. One of

2349
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 1: them was when he tried to scramble and Jesse Bates

2350
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 1: got to him and got him out of bounds before

2351
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:58,120
Speaker 1: the marker, and I was just like, yeah, no one

2352
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 1: in college is making the play like Jesse Bates just

2353
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 1: made it. And the interception was also crazy. But Bowman

2354
01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:06,880
Speaker 1: did get an interception in the end, that's right. He

2355
01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 1: almost had two in the game we won in the

2356
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:11,000
Speaker 1: first half, and he did get one, and that was

2357
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:14,760
Speaker 1: like an incredibly athletic play. So I feel higher on

2358
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:18,759
Speaker 1: the Falcons defense in general. I do think there's something there.

2359
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 1: Going into the season, you thought maybe they're going to

2360
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 1: be a bottom five to ten defense. I think it's

2361
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 1: absolutely fair to have higher expectations if you're a Falcons fan.

2362
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 1: Now we might have an above average defense. We have

2363
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 1: something to work with, and yes we do have a

2364
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 1: badass running game. I shouldn't have sold Tyler aus year short.

2365
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 1: By the way, Shooky's seventeen yards over expectation for him too,

2366
01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:41,120
Speaker 1: so he's contributing sixteen for sixty or seventy six on

2367
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:43,679
Speaker 1: the ground like he did. Great and a great win.

2368
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 1: They really outclassed the Vikings on Sunday night.

2369
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:49,559
Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, and I think a you know, not a

2370
01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 14: massive win over the scheme of a long season, but

2371
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 14: I think an important win for a Falcons team that's

2372
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 14: trying to find their footing. I mean, let's face it,

2373
01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 14: the kirk Cousins stuff. Last year, they were a good team,

2374
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 14: they were a hot team, and then they fell apart

2375
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:04,800
Speaker 14: down the stretch. They waited too long to pool kirk

2376
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 14: Cousins for Michael Pennocks. It's important that they don't start

2377
01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 14: in a deep hole this year with Michael Pennocks the quarterback,

2378
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 14: because then the pressure falls on him, you feel the

2379
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:13,960
Speaker 14: pressure on Raheem Morrison on the front office, and everybody

2380
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 14: gets tight. Getting a win like this gets you back

2381
01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 14: to one in one and it's a win that you

2382
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:19,880
Speaker 14: could say, look, we just beat a team that almost

2383
01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 14: on it, almost took the top seed in the NFC

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01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:24,000
Speaker 14: last year. This is a really good team. They've been

2385
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:25,640
Speaker 14: a good team over the last few years. This is

2386
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 14: an important win for us to prove to ourselves that

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01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 14: we can go into a hostile environment on primetime television

2388
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:35,680
Speaker 14: and win convincingly. That type of stuff can kind of

2389
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:37,559
Speaker 14: propel you forward even earlier in the season.

2390
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:39,719
Speaker 2: Yep, I am impressed with Pennix.

2391
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:41,760
Speaker 1: I know the numbers weren't great, but between last week

2392
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:43,680
Speaker 1: and this week, he just looks like a veteran. I

2393
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 1: think he's better from the neck up than you could

2394
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:49,200
Speaker 1: reasonably expect for a second year quarterback. But he has

2395
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 1: that experience. We'll talk about him more later, but since

2396
01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:54,360
Speaker 1: we taped the top of the show, you might have

2397
01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:57,679
Speaker 1: noticed when you listen to the Bengals that we talked

2398
01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 1: about Burrow, but we weren't really sure, you know, how

2399
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:03,880
Speaker 1: long he might be out at that time. Since that happened,

2400
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:08,600
Speaker 1: we've had more reporting on it, and it's obviously very concerning.

2401
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:13,080
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport and Tom Pellisero both reporting that Joe Burrow

2402
01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 1: could miss around three months if surgery is required. Now

2403
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:23,679
Speaker 1: he will try to get a second opinion, but if

2404
01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 1: he gets surgery, he'd be out about three months. He

2405
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:30,799
Speaker 1: is feared to have suffered a Grade three turf toe injury,

2406
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 1: according to rap Sheet, And.

2407
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:36,719
Speaker 2: I don't know what you want to say about it. Shook.

2408
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:40,000
Speaker 1: Other than that, it's a bummer. But three months is

2409
01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 1: most of this season.

2410
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean three months from today is essentially just

2411
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 14: mid December, Like that's about when the Bengals were like,

2412
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 14: oh god, we need to win out to try to

2413
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 14: save our playoff chances last year in the year before.

2414
01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:56,800
Speaker 14: So it's bad. Luckily they have a backup who has

2415
01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:59,880
Speaker 14: experienced in Jake Browning, but it significantly lowers your ceiling

2416
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 14: not having Joe Burrow out there, like there's no reason

2417
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 14: to really have to explain that. And it's a bumber

2418
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 14: because over the last three years, he's been hurt basically

2419
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:10,360
Speaker 14: every year or almost every year. He's always he was

2420
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:12,679
Speaker 14: coming back from the knee injury, he had the wrist injury,

2421
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 14: he was finally fully healthy this year. He was feeling

2422
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 14: better than ever, throwing it better than ever, and two

2423
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 14: weeks into the season you lose him. I mean, talk

2424
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 14: about a gut punch. A team that starts two and oh,

2425
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:24,680
Speaker 14: they're riding high two and oh for the first time

2426
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 14: the Zach Taylor era and they lose their quarterback. Tough man.

2427
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 14: Tough to be a Bengals fan.

2428
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:32,920
Speaker 1: You think about the way his career has gone, and

2429
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 1: in the frustration he had, which he showed in that

2430
01:54:35,560 --> 01:54:39,360
Speaker 1: show Quarterback on Netflix, of the injuries that he's gone through,

2431
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:42,160
Speaker 1: because of course he missed so much of his rookie year,

2432
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 1: and you mentioned the twenty twenty three injury, and then

2433
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 1: sometimes coming into the season missing training camp. Even when

2434
01:54:48,120 --> 01:54:51,440
Speaker 1: he's played every game, he hasn't been fully healthy. And

2435
01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:54,080
Speaker 1: he came into the league as a twenty four year old.

2436
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:56,440
Speaker 1: He is older than most quarterbacks and not saying there's

2437
01:54:56,480 --> 01:55:00,960
Speaker 1: not a long track, you know, road ahead for Joe Burrow,

2438
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 1: but he is turning thirty next year, and he is

2439
01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 1: going to be getting increasingly frustrated with these injuries.

2440
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 2: Now.

2441
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to go too deep until his second

2442
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 1: opinion confirms what the fear is which would knock him

2443
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:16,320
Speaker 1: out three months. We'll talk about it at length then,

2444
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:21,520
Speaker 1: But the race for this season will be stay alive

2445
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 1: until Joe's back, and last week is a long time,

2446
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 1: it is, but they are too and zero and so

2447
01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 1: that's a head start, and the schedule is pretty difficult overall,

2448
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:36,520
Speaker 1: although in the middle it's a little softer. Around their

2449
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 1: bye week, there's a Steelers Jets Bears bye week. Steelers

2450
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:42,440
Speaker 1: Patriots run of games, which I don't think they should

2451
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:45,880
Speaker 1: be viewed as heavy underdogs. But any game with Jake

2452
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:47,720
Speaker 1: Brownie is going to be a challenge, and I think

2453
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 1: this will help teach us a little bit about the

2454
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 1: rest of the organization and whether they are good enough,

2455
01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 1: and whether they've built the defense up enough and the

2456
01:55:57,360 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 1: offensive line enough to compete even without Joe Burrow.

2457
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 2: Now, when Browning came in.

2458
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, he actually was able to

2459
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:06,320
Speaker 1: win some games for them and kept them in the mix.

2460
01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 1: And this will just be a much longer, longer uphill

2461
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:13,960
Speaker 1: battle if he is indeed out three months, because I

2462
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 1: think you play the Ravens. You said mid December, you know,

2463
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:21,760
Speaker 1: week fifteen, that's with four weeks left of the season.

2464
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:25,880
Speaker 1: Can you get there at seven and six or six

2465
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:28,840
Speaker 1: and seven, you're at two to zero. Now, that's only

2466
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:31,440
Speaker 1: four more wins over a lot of games, four or

2467
01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:34,440
Speaker 1: five more wins. That is going to be the challenge,

2468
01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:36,760
Speaker 1: and frankly, it's one I hope they just aren't going

2469
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:39,080
Speaker 1: to have to face. You never know, maybe the second

2470
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:41,200
Speaker 1: opinion will tell him you could try to play through

2471
01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 1: it and play in a week or two, and that

2472
01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:47,080
Speaker 1: would be a positive outcome if he's able to possibly

2473
01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 1: do that.

2474
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 14: I mean, the first month of the projected timeline for

2475
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 14: him to miss if the second opinion doesn't change anything,

2476
01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:58,520
Speaker 14: is a gauntlet. Minnesota, Denver, Detroit, Green Bay. I mean right,

2477
01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:02,040
Speaker 14: I'm the Flores, You've got, the Denver defense, You've got

2478
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 14: I mean the Packers defense is at the end of

2479
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:08,400
Speaker 14: that swing Like that's that's an incredible amount of challenges

2480
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 14: for a guy who's a backup quarterback, who just by

2481
01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:13,560
Speaker 14: the nature of any backup quarterback lowers your offensive ceiling.

2482
01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:16,800
Speaker 14: If they can survive, if they could split that, then

2483
01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 14: I could believe in what you just presented. They if

2484
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 14: things go, hey, why are there, then it could get ugly.

2485
01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 1: Win one of those there to three and three and

2486
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 1: then that other part of the schedule. Yes, you're just

2487
01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 1: trying to possibly tread water. We're going to have a

2488
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:32,440
Speaker 1: lot of shows and a lot of weeks now to

2489
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:35,240
Speaker 1: discuss this Joe Burrow injury. It's really sad to have

2490
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:39,120
Speaker 1: lost him for any amount of time this season because

2491
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:41,520
Speaker 1: the Bengals obviously one of the main characters in the NFL,

2492
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 1: and they did finally get out to an o start,

2493
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:44,879
Speaker 1: even if it looked.

2494
01:57:44,720 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 2: Funky, okay, Shook.

2495
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,800
Speaker 1: We'll be back here in about twenty four hours to

2496
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:52,000
Speaker 1: recap a double header. It's going to be a late

2497
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:55,200
Speaker 1: one on the East coast, Shook. That thing's going to

2498
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 1: be ending around one in the morning, So get some coffee,

2499
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:04,880
Speaker 1: get read Bucks, Texans Chargers Raiders. We'll be back for that.

2500
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:08,160
Speaker 1: This was a fun week too, until the Borough injury.

2501
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:09,760
Speaker 2: Football is back