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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class from how

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Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast

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Speaker 1: Holly Frying and I'm Tracy Wilson. Tracy. Valentine's Day is

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Speaker 1: coming up. I know it's um uh not a holiday

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Speaker 1: I usually have like the standard associations with. It's always

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Speaker 1: more of like a friends and family holiday to me.

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Speaker 1: But people sometimes like some themed stuff, so I didn't

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Speaker 1: want to be too on the nose where a little

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Speaker 1: ahead of Valentine's Day. Uh, you know, various romantic topics

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Speaker 1: have been suggested, but I don't always like to be

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Speaker 1: literally and happy because I'm just contrary. Um. And a

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Speaker 1: lot of the stories that we have done around Valentine's

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Speaker 1: Day have been relatively tragic in their love story nous.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking Abillard and Hellouise. Yeah uh. And thankfully, our

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Speaker 1: listener Tressa wrote in with an idea that I loved.

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Speaker 1: And while this one can definitely be categorized as romantic,

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Speaker 1: there is also some deception. There's some cheating, a little

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Speaker 1: bit of murder, a little bit of gore. For those

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Speaker 1: of us in the crowd who like darker fare, we're

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Speaker 1: talking today about the person who is sometimes referred to

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Speaker 1: as the corpse brid of Portugal and as de Castro,

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Speaker 1: and the story of her love affair with Prince Pedro,

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Speaker 1: who later became Padrew the First puts Romeo and Juliet

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Speaker 1: to shame in the intensity and tragedy categories. And it

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Speaker 1: has in fact been rumored that these two fourteenth century

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Speaker 1: lovers were the inspiration for Shakespeare's tale. And this is

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Speaker 1: one of those stories that also has a lot of

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Speaker 1: versions of it because it's been told and retold for centuries.

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Speaker 1: It is, uh, such a good story in terms of

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Speaker 1: like it has all of the ingredients you would want

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Speaker 1: in a good and engaging story. Uh. That it is,

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Speaker 1: you know, a big part of Portugal's history and their

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Speaker 1: oral tradition. Uh. And that means that some of the

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Speaker 1: details have shifted and changed in various tellings. Some details

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Speaker 1: are probably fabricated. And we're gonna talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about the mythology that this has taken on and some

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Speaker 1: of the more glaring cases of artistic license that happened

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Speaker 1: related to their story a little later in the podcast.

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Speaker 1: But first we'll give you the basic story, and that

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Speaker 1: story starts out with Pedro, sometimes known as Peter who

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Speaker 1: would become Pedro, the first King of Portugal. On April eighth,

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Speaker 1: thirteen twenty, the king of Portugal at that time a

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Speaker 1: Fonso the fourth and his consort Beatrice of Castile had

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Speaker 1: a lot about his childhood. There's not many details about

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Speaker 1: of nineteen or twenty, Pedro married Constanza of Castile. But

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Speaker 1: Pedro found Constanza's lady in waiting and As de Castro

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Speaker 1: and Pedro was utterly entrance by her. There is one

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Speaker 1: history where it says that he was taken in completely

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Speaker 1: an illegitimate grandson of Sancho the fourth. Inez Perez de

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Speaker 1: Castro was born sometime in the early thirteen twenties, and

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Speaker 1: her father was Pedro Bernandez de Castro. That's the illegitimate

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Speaker 1: Constanza invited Eniz to be the child's godmother. So that

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Speaker 1: On November thirteen forty five, Constanza died She had given

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Speaker 1: And from that point on they maintained a home in Couimbra,

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Speaker 1: even though it was supposedly clandestine, Inez and Pedro started

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Speaker 1: happily ever after situation. Pedro Andz at this point were

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Speaker 1: finally together, they have children that they love, they're living

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Speaker 1: brothers Alvaro and Fernando were bending Pedro's ear about a

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