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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Beat your Happy Hour. I'm

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Speaker 1: Joe and I'm Serena, and today we are gonna recap

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Suites. Favorite episode.

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Speaker 2: It's not my favorite. I like Night one.

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Speaker 1: I just guess I was just throwing I guess out there.

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Speaker 2: What's your favorite episode?

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Speaker 1: Night one? Yeah? N one? But I like Fantasy Sweets.

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Speaker 2: I like Fantasy Suitets too. Coming off of Hometowns, Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Suites is a good one. There's always like something.

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Speaker 1: I like hometowns more than I like Fantasy Suites.

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Speaker 2: Do you really?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Why is that?

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Speaker 1: I just find them to be more entertaining. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just feel like there's there's just there's more people, so

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Speaker 1: new different dynamics that I enjoy.

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Speaker 2: That's true. I feel like we should have Jared on

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Speaker 2: every hometown recap because he's so passionate about hometowns and

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Speaker 2: he like, I'm not a big hometown gal, So not

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Speaker 2: my favorite episode, but like he makes me enjoy the

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Speaker 2: episode more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he loves loves hometowns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so passionate about it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we are it's Fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Suites and we are in Tuloom to Loom, Mexico, which

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Speaker 2: I feel like we've been here before, because when they

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Speaker 2: did the Sinote's Date, I was like, this looks so familiar,

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Speaker 2: but I can't pinpoint what season did it.

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Speaker 1: You wonder why I don't like the Sinots.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. For people listening, oh, it was Zach's season that

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Speaker 2: did it, okay, And for people listening, Joe and I

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Speaker 2: have benched to Loom and we've done the snots. We

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Speaker 2: didn't do ones like this where you're jumping off stuff,

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Speaker 2: but we did one where you kind of like walk

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Speaker 2: down and it's like the pools of water that you

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Speaker 2: can swim in and it's like caves and all that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I dis liked them because there's bats, yes, and

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Speaker 1: I don't like bats and bats carry rabies and I

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Speaker 1: don't want anything to do with that. Yes.

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Speaker 2: The one we were in had like you swim underneath this,

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Speaker 2: like underneath these rocks. Yeah, and there was so many bats.

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Speaker 2: But you did good. You went you went under it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I only because I knew how much

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Speaker 1: you wanted to do it and you were having fun

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Speaker 1: and I was really just putting on a a brave face.

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Speaker 1: But I hate it every second.

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Speaker 2: You're so right.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't wait to get out of there. I remember that.

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Speaker 2: I remember that too. We're with Abigailano and they were

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Speaker 2: loving it also, so you were really like there was

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Speaker 2: a lot of peer pressure for you to push through.

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Speaker 1: And we had to put on the life jackets that

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Speaker 1: like everyone was wearing, and they were like soaked.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, but it doesn't mean they don't,

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Speaker 2: like they clean them in between and stuff.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, they didn't smell clean.

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Speaker 2: Well, if we ever go back, you can sit on

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Speaker 2: the bench and watch while I swim in the snowtays,

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Speaker 2: I will make you do it again.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I just don't get bit by a bat.

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Speaker 2: I will, or I'll try not to.

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Speaker 1: TV showed we just watched if somebody.

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Speaker 2: Got bit by a bat?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, and they were affected with rabies.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's right at the tip of my tongue.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it was a movie. Oh it was

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Speaker 2: the Hunger Games, uh, Songbird prequel? Whatever?

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Speaker 1: Got it? Yeah? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, you know the guy in it is the

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Speaker 2: guy who played like the Sun, the rich Sun is

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Speaker 2: dating Rachel what's her face, the girl who played the

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Speaker 2: main girl in real life?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Really? Yeah? Oh nice?

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I just saw that in Okay, we're in to

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Speaker 2: loom and we have three dates. It starts off with

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Speaker 2: the security hand footage of Joey reading the car, reading

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Speaker 2: the note, a little foreshadowing.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, it doesn't. It ends with that, oh

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Speaker 1: for Shaw.

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Speaker 2: They did a little foreshadow clip, which honestly I have

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Speaker 2: come to like. I feel like at the beginning of

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Speaker 2: the season, I was like, I hate this, and now

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Speaker 2: I enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: I was just upset they ended on that, I know,

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Speaker 1: because I wanted to see what happened.

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Speaker 2: It was such a cliffhanger, and they do like a

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Speaker 2: little They start off with like a recap of all

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Speaker 2: the relationships, kind of remind you where everyone's at, and

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Speaker 2: then we go into Rachel and Susan have a chat.

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Speaker 2: I love these cameos from the Golden Bachelor girls this episode,

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Speaker 2: and we're actually gonna have them on Leslie, Susan, and

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Speaker 2: Sondra for an interview later this week, so be sure

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Speaker 2: to stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what did.

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Speaker 2: You think about Rachel and Susan's chat?

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Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it was nice. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was fine, I think, But I mean, I

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Speaker 1: like Susan. I think she's a great personality. I personally

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Speaker 1: think it would be more helpful. I get she has

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Speaker 1: a lot of advice in all that, but like, like

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Speaker 1: we were on Paradise and I think Dean and Kaylen

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Speaker 1: came down and we talked to them. There's just something

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Speaker 1: more relatable there that I thought was very helpful, where

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Speaker 1: I would almost rather see the conversation being had with

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Speaker 1: Rachel and like one of Zach's girls, somebody who's yeah,

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Speaker 1: like a bachelor and oh you mean like a success

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Speaker 1: like here, like Zach's like Katie, Katie, Katie and Zach. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I rather see Katie have that conversation because it's so

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Speaker 1: fresh and so new and she went through that exact

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Speaker 1: experience and it worked out for her and it worked out.

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Speaker 2: That's actually a good point because with us, Yeah, we have.

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Speaker 1: Referred back to this no bachelor, golden bachelor ladies. I

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Speaker 1: enjoy you. I like you.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, yeah, no, I know what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Because when we were in Paradise, to see it having

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Speaker 2: worked out for Kaylin and Dean who met on Paradise,

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Speaker 2: who are still together, Like, there is something encouraging about that.

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Speaker 2: You do kind of want to hear their experience and

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Speaker 2: like how they handle these situations.

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Speaker 1: Can we get later in the episode when Leslie and

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Speaker 1: Kelsey Kelsey Ty, I'm like, this is not this is

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Speaker 1: not giving her any confidence.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that. But Rachel basically just says she

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Speaker 2: feels really accepted by Joey and she's in love with him,

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Speaker 2: but her guards So I feel like that's been like

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Speaker 2: the theme with Rachel all season is like her guards up.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't like crying in front of him, she doesn't

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Speaker 2: like being vulnerable with him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel I really like Rachel. I think she's

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Speaker 1: very sweet. I think she is very pretty. I think

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Speaker 1: she's she's smart, Like, I really like her and I

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Speaker 1: and I feel really bad for her because I feel

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Speaker 1: like she doesn't want to get hurt. She's been fighting

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Speaker 1: that this entire time, and now we're going to see

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Speaker 1: her finally open up, open up.

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Speaker 2: I know it's like the best and the worst week

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Speaker 2: for her to do it. Yeah, they go into their date.

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Speaker 2: They do the sonotes a little triggering for Joey, but

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Speaker 2: for this for you, Joe, she breaks her jaw almost

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Speaker 2: okay jaw, Yeah that was crazy. Yeah, have you ever

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Speaker 2: jumped off of something like high and had a bad landing.

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Speaker 2: Uh No, have you ever jumped off something high period

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Speaker 1: Uh? Like not not super high.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have like a diving board, I've jumped off.

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Speaker 2: I've done like some cliff jumping. Nothing crazy. Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: highest diving board had jumped off was probably like ten

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Speaker 2: fifteen feet, so.

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Speaker 1: Like probably that's probably the same.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely no, I will be shocked if you jump

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Speaker 2: off of anything that's ten feet high.

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Speaker 1: I definitely have jumped off that's ten feet or high.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm assuming that what they jumped off of

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Speaker 1: Oh I thought that was like thirty.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, well, either way, if you land poorly, like

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Speaker 2: the impact again, water is extremely painful.

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Speaker 1: It's like it feels like you're hitting concrete.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Like the higher you are on, the faster

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Speaker 2: I went back and watched how she fell, and she

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Speaker 2: like piked her upper body, which like the if you're

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Speaker 2: then her chin whacked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry she didn't get knocked out from it. No,

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Speaker 1: like knock off her equilibrium. I mean her what equilibrium?

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Speaker 1: That's that is a thing. That's a word. Fucking google it.

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Speaker 1: I know it's the word. You don't think I'm saying

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Speaker 3: I don't think I might not be correct, that that

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Speaker 2: But no, if she had broken, her day would have

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Speaker 2: been absolutely shocked. I think she just kind of like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she was. She put on a brave face. She

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Speaker 2: Yeah you would have. If you would have been like,

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Speaker 2: like you just you're Jows and you don't really want

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Speaker 2: she had, Joe anyways, anyways, so they go to the hospital.

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Speaker 2: It's like a whole thing. But I think it's good

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Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, I genuinely think she needed something

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Speaker 2: You have to kind of let them take care of you.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever have the ambulance or doctors called on

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Speaker 2: you at all when you're on the show, any of

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Speaker 2: the times you went on it. No, you've never had

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Speaker 2: to see the medica anything. Oh yeah, oh when you

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Speaker 2: were sick in Paradise, I called the medica for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some bunch of.

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Speaker 2: Times I had. I was punched in the face on

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Speaker 2: my season on one of the dates. It was like

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Speaker 2: a boxing date and I got hit like square in

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Speaker 2: the face. But that was just like a two ad

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Speaker 2: villa move on situation.

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Speaker 1: I had a stronger relationship with the medic than I

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Speaker 2: You did you did? You knew a lot about the

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Speaker 2: medics and about the team that was helping take care

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Speaker 2: of us. You came back from those visits with a

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Speaker 2: ton of information. I feel very safe in Paradise now

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Speaker 2: knowing everything that you've told me about the medic staff.

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Speaker 1: Great medics stap Okay, Yeah, So then they go they

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Speaker 1: do overnights, they wake up the next day happy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like upset the night before because obviously

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Speaker 2: holding it together quite well. But I can imagine fantasy suites.

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Speaker 2: it's like probably still very triggering for her.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yacht date so freaking windy. Yeah, the wind's going crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think this episode her feelings, like she really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and their connection is like I'm seeing it, Like

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Speaker 2: Gotcha, where's Kelsey? You feel like? Is more like I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Daisy's saying a lot of like strong things

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Speaker 2: seemed to be kind of like doubting thing, but now

440
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 2: I feel like she's really let herself fall and she's

441
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 2: kind of like.

442
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so this is the first time and I

443
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: can't even remember when that we have three successful fantasy suites.

444
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, all three of them went really well. There was

445
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 2: no drama between Joey and any of the women. There's

446
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 2: no drama between the women themselves. It was just like

447
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 2: a very smooth.

448
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now we have one one hiccup and we see

449
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 1: security footage of Joey walking up to his not.

450
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 2: The security footage, I was like, where's the.

451
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: Camera crew to his room? And there is a note

452
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 1: written Do we know who it's written by?

453
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 2: Yes?

454
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so there's a note written says we need

455
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,719
Speaker 1: to talk and it's from Kelsey.

456
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: Yes, And we as view is know that Kelsey is

457
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 2: spiraling after her chat with Leslie. She's freaking out, and

458
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 2: it seems to be that she just wants to talk

459
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: to Joey for reassurance and to kind of ease her nerves. Yeah,

460
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 2: but here's and I think it's hard, like when you're

461
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 2: in a relationship with someone, she is in love with him,

462
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 2: she's like been kind of all in for a few weeks.

463
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 2: Now it feels like and she's like, you know, typically

464
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 2: when you're having insecurities or struggles in a relationship, you

465
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: just like call the person. You can talk to them

466
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: like right away, and not having that access is also

467
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: probably very hard.

468
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:47,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's so. I think anyone can relate and

469
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: knows this to be true, that when you're in a

470
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Speaker 1: relationship with someone and your partner says we need to talk,

471
00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 1: it's usually not just a chill let's just talk about

472
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: our feelings, it's we need to talk. You fucked up?

473
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it was actually horrendous wording on her, Like

474
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: all the things she could have written. I think she

475
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 2: was maybe trying to just be like cute and frank

476
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 2: and like joe like Joey, we need to talk Kelsey,

477
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 2: like I need to talk to you.

478
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: If if that was her objective, she put to put

479
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: like a hard butterfly or something on there.

480
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, Like I have no idea what

481
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 2: persuaded her to use those words. But I.

482
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: Would you have written we got to talk real quick,

483
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: exact same thing, but gotta we gotta talk real quick.

484
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound either what.

485
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: I what I would have said. I would have I

486
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: would have probably wrote, care for are come to my room?

487
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, Actually I don't know what could you said?

488
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm honestly I guess just like Joey,

489
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: I'm really missing you. Can we can we have a

490
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: quick talk?

491
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: Or like I guess there's kind of no way to say,

492
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: can we talk yo, let me holler at you for

493
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: a second.

494
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: Nope, Nope, definitely not that one. Maybe like hey, when

495
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: you have some time, can you come visit me? I

496
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: guess I doesn't give any sense of urgency though.

497
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: What about? What about? What about? We need to talk?

498
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: All good though, all good things, or.

499
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: Like hey, I need to talk to you, nothing to

500
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: worry about, like some sort of like I just.

501
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: Want to get a few things off my chest.

502
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like having a hard time, need to see

503
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 2: your face Kelsey, that's a good one. That's a good one.

504
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: Having a hard time, needs to see your face that

505
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 1: is one?

506
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Or just like hey, I'm having a tough time,

507
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: like can we talk?

508
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like, well, she did it.

509
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: She didn't do any of those things.

510
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: She didn't do it. And Joey was the worst person

511
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: to get that because now it's like everything that he

512
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: has been worried about this entire season seems to potentially

513
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: be coming true.

514
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's got like one major stress point, and

515
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: is that someone he cares about is going to reject him,

516
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: and I think it's I mean, my guess is that

517
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: Rachel's going home because he did say I'm falling in

518
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: love with you to Daisy and Kelsey, and I think

519
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 2: he has very strong connections with both of them, and

520
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 2: I think him and Rachel have a good connection, but

521
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: I just don't know if it's where the other two are.

522
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: So with that prediction in mind, he's like, one of

523
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: my two strongest connections potentially could be leaving right now

524
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 2: and he's gonna freak out going home.

525
00:25:54,560 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: Going home before Fantasy Suites sucks. Going home after Fantasy

526
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: Sweets has to kind of be like.

527
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like, Wow, he really just got to

528
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: see like all of who I am and he didn't

529
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: like it.

530
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: I don't know if you should say that that he

531
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: didn't like it, well obviously all of me and still

532
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: I'm not enough for him.

533
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: Yes, But at the end of the day, like we're

534
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 2: phrasing it in a horrible way, yeah, it's really at

535
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: the end of this podcast, well we're just you know,

536
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, it just comes

537
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: down to he has stronger connections with other people. But

538
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 2: I can imagine that's how it would feel you're never

539
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 2: you get so much time with them, you're so vulnerable,

540
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: and it's like that week to go home I feel

541
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: like would hurt like more than anything. Yeah, I know

542
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,479
Speaker 2: final two is like a hard one, but like, at

543
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: least at that point, it's like.

544
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think final two is as bad.

545
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: I don't reason after a hard week to go.

546
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: The reason I don't because I do think there is

547
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: something that Like, as much as I think both women

548
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: want Joey to get down on one knee and ask

549
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: them to marry them, yeah, I think there has to

550
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: be a little part of them that are kind of

551
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: like a little relieved, like, oh shit, that would have

552
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: been crazy.

553
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if people feel that way. I think

554
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: that you would feel that way. I think it's for

555
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: the best.

556
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: Well, what I'm saying is I think you could still

557
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: be like all in, but there could be a little

558
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: percentage of you that is kind of like, oh wait,

559
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: like it like when you're getting ready for the engagement,

560
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: there has to be a part of you there like

561
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: that kicks back to the real world where you're like,

562
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: oh shit, like I'm about to get engaged.

563
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: Well, I think how I would feel is okay, I'm heartbroken,

564
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: but this is such a big risk and a big

565
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: decision to make getting engaged to someone in this amount

566
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: of time. People do it and it's accessful for sure,

567
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: but like there's still it's still faster than the average relationship.

568
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

569
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: And I'd be like, if it's not me and he's

570
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: not certain about me, like, I'm relieved he didn't propose

571
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: to me, because we've seen it where people propose and

572
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: they switch to ruie and go with the other girl,

573
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: or they proposed and it doesn't work out like right away.

574
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: So I'd be like, you know, I want him to

575
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: be sure, and if he's not sure, then I'm glad

576
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,479
Speaker 2: that he didn't take the engagement from me just for

577
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: it to not work out.

578
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: And what a better way to get over a heartbreak

579
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: than becoming the lead and having thirty some guys chase

580
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: after you and most likely it's usually well, actually not true.

581
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: It hasn't really been like this. But people love Daisy

582
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: if it's not her, and I would say, in my opinion,

583
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: if it's not Daisy, she gets heartbroken at the end.

584
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: I don't see how she's not the bachelorette.

585
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: Wow, we're thinking bachelorette predictions now, aren't.

586
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: We I'm just going to throw it out there, my

587
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: my opinion. Uh yeah, I don't. I don't see a

588
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: world where.

589
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: It's not maybe.

590
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: I mean, she's missus Clause and missus Clause needs a

591
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: Santa Claus Oh.

592
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: Tagline, tagline, tagline.

593
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes I talk and I just like, I'm like, you're inspired,

594
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: joe You're the worst.

595
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: Well, this is what we leave on. Joey gets a

596
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: note from Kelsey. They're both spirally. Rachel's jaw is fine,

597
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: she's chilling, feeling good. Daisy, Joey said he's falling in

598
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: love with her. She's feeling amazing, She's feeling better than

599
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: I've seen her feel in weeks. Girls on Top of.

600
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: The World and Joe thinks Daisy is going to be.

601
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: The next Betchorette, And Joe thinks Daisy is going to be.

602
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: The next I'm going to say it here now.

603
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 2: I'm always so much more hesitant to make predictions than

604
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: you are.

605
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: Because if I'm wrong, who cares?

606
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's true. Literally, what does it matter?

607
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't make a difference. Okay, Honestly, fun episode.

608
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed speaking with you. Serena.

609
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: Oh I, thank you.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome. Thank you to all our listeners for tuning

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Speaker 2: be a really good episode.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we get to watch it live from our couch

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Speaker 1: when most people don't see it yet. So I really

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Speaker 1: Everyone be safe.

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Speaker 2: By mm hmm