1 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: Welcome into jag Zama. I'm Kindannie Stevens, Brian Sexton, and 2 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: John Oser are with me today. Is we're gonna recap 3 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: that game for you from Las Vegas on Sunday. So 4 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: we'll start with big things. Number One, unlucky in Las Vegas. Obviously, 5 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: the Jaguars losing to the Raiders and other teams struggling 6 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: throughout their season as well. Brian, it's disappointed, to say 7 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: the least. Obviously, it has been frustrating this entire season. 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: But to lose to a team that is also not 9 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: very good, that doesn't feel. 10 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: Great, you know, And I'm not sure that unlucky is 11 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: the best way to describe it, because this is what 12 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: we've seen all year. 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: I mean, Eric. 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: Ormstead back to back plays in the Neutrals thought, that's 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: just a disciplined So. 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm lucky for us to have to watch it now. 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: Listen there, You're absolutely right. It was a very tough 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: game to watch. 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 3: John. Yeah, it was. 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 4: Late season, out of the playoffs, before Christmas football, and 21 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 4: over five or six games they've they've been eliminated, what 22 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 4: with like five or six games remaining the Jags, it 23 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 4: defies logic to think one of these wasn't coming. This 24 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 4: was sort of it. Neither team is very good, neither 25 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 4: team's playing a starting quarterback. The Jaguars have one front 26 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: line receiver in the game, and it's and it's Brian 27 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: Thomas Junior, who plays like it. So it's it's it's 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 4: the same thing, different week, this one with a Christmas 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 4: bow on. 30 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: It felt like human nature had finally arrived, right. I mean, 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: you're going west the week of Christmas, you're missing key players, 32 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: You've lost games at the end. It's gotten to be 33 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: that point where you just can't avoid. As John just said, 34 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: a game like that, they felt like the first time 35 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: all year guy that human nature showed up. 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: I felt like it got to them. Big thing number 37 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: two is too late. We're talking a lot this week 38 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: about getting the younger players out there, getting other players 39 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: experienced in this game. It might be a little too 40 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: late for that. 41 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 5: I mean, I know for the guys that haven't been around, 42 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 5: it's hard. And I've been through this stuff many times, 43 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 5: and you just got to go play ball and know 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 5: that your tape is your resume and everyone's watching the 45 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 5: tape and that's what you gotta do. And it stinks 46 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 5: and I do everything in my power to scream at 47 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 5: guys and cuss and say let's effing go, But. 48 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 4: Is what it is? 49 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: John, You and I were there for that. And Andrew 50 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: winger Dewey very frustrated without getting to play, got into 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: the game a little bit only after injury. And we've 52 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: been talking a lot about whether it was Dewey coming 53 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: back or younger players, and we haven't seen all of 54 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: that at least second. 55 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: He's frustrated. 56 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: He's worked at this a long time, been a good 57 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 4: player for a long time, had a chance to start 58 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: before the season started, got hurt. So yeah, I mean 59 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 4: we're seeing some younger guys. I understand coaches with playing 60 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 4: younger guys. They don't just say let's throw everybody out 61 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 4: there and see what happens. You still want to give 62 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 4: yourself the best chance, you know. Has it happened soon enough? 63 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 4: I don't know. 64 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: It's is it too late? I guess it feels like 65 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: a lot of things are too late this season. 66 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: You're right on, But just for three names, right, I mean, 67 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: Keilan Robinson, Jordan Jefferson and Trey Prince. And I thought 68 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: because Ronald Darby was down, we might see Trey Prince, 69 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: who I think is a promising guy, obviously talking about 70 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: it all the time, but you do have some young 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: guys for whom there are some hopes that they can 72 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: evolve and become players. 73 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: And I'm not in the meeting room. 74 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: I don't know why they're not active, but there are 75 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: some young guys and maybe the final two weeks we 76 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: could see some of those three and see if they 77 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: are guys that you can lean on going into twenty 78 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: twenty five. 79 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: Our final big thing is final Push, because while there 80 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: it was some finality to that game in Las Vegas, 81 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: there are STI still two more games that have to 82 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: be played. Mac Jones talked a little bit about the 83 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: end of the season. 84 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 6: We'll keep that private, but definitely for me as as 85 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 6: I've been this situation two years in a row, just 86 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 6: play good football and put the ball in play and 87 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 6: eliminate turnovers and control we can control, and like I said, 88 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 6: once we're all on the same page, promise things will 89 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 6: go well and and that's that's our goal. 90 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 5: Ran. 91 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: We've been talking about the energy we've seen from the team. 92 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: They're in these games. They're close games, but it feels 93 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: like it's reaching the end of the track with this 94 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: amount of energy that they have left with all that's 95 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: been frustrating the season. 96 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: Well, it's it's a combination of lack of key players, right. 97 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: I mean the fact that we're talking to Mac Jones 98 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: after the game and not Trevor Lawrence says something about. 99 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 3: Where this team is and that they're throwing the ball 100 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 3: at times. 101 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: You have Tim Jones on the field yesterday, I mean, 102 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: not Christian Kirk. You're relying on Parker Washington and not 103 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: Gave Davis. So it's just kind of where they are 104 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: at this point of the season. If you'd like something 105 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: to be optimistic about, something to look forward to in 106 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: the final two weeks, I can give you something. 107 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: Would you like that? 108 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: Please do. 109 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: The Jaguars are good to finish with the winning record, 110 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: but they could finish with a winning record in the division. 111 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: I mean it's not much, but we're looking for something 112 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: to put in the old proverbial Christmas stocking. Perhaps a 113 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: couple of wins at the end of the year would 114 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: give them something to be happy about. 115 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: It. 116 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: It's all I got John. 117 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: Yeh, Look, somebody asked me, how did he get to 118 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 4: this point offensively? Well, they weren't a particularly good offense before, 119 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 4: and now they're playing a backup quarterback and they're down 120 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 4: three of their top four receivers. So I don't think 121 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 4: not particularly good. It's going to get great in the circumstances. 122 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 4: So that's why you see an offense that when Brian 123 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 4: Thomas you can't make a play. Uh, there's not much 124 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 4: going on offensively. It's where we're at. Merry Christmas. 125 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: Oh that was mean, all right, So this we'll come 126 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: back after the brake. We'll look at some of the 127 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: tape from the game in Vegas. Move the Frame, Move 128 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: the Freight. Magellan Transport voted the coolest office space in Jacksonville. 129 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: You canply on line at www dot Magellan Logistics dot com. 130 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back into drag Zam. We're gonna talk a little 131 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: bit about that game in Las Vegas. Obviously frustrating and 132 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: kind of just bad football on both sides. Obviously both 133 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: of these teams have had trouble this season, but we 134 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: did see a little bit of something after all those 135 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 1: errors in the first half. We did see the offense 136 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: get going a little bit. But John, as we've talked about, 137 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: it's always Brian Thomas junior that has to get it going. 138 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: Otherwise we don't see much of anything. 139 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh, I don't know what the stat is, 140 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: but it seems like the last four or five games, 141 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 4: a couple of touchdowns each game, and when you kind 142 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 4: of look back at the key play, it's always a 143 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 4: bet and it says great things about him, not great 144 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: things about the team. And yesterday again in the first 145 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 4: half and they got it go and they got the 146 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: touchdown right after his he was a sixteen yarder that 147 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 4: broke Justin Blackings record and then credit him for sticking 148 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 4: it in. You know, they got the lead and they 149 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 4: can't do much with it. 150 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: It's amazing that we can talk about Brian Thomas Junior 151 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: as much as we do week after week after week 152 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 2: and it doesn't seem to get old' he's that good. 153 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: And he's doing it without Trebor Lawrence. He's doing it 154 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: on a field essentially all by himself. Because listen, no 155 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: disrespect intended, but no one is worried about Parker Washington 156 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: or Tim Jones or whoever else is out there, Josh Reynolds. 157 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: It's all about seven. 158 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: And they put this team together this year with the 159 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: idea that it was gonna be kind of like basketball 160 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: John Proper spacing makes everything work, and they haven't had it, 161 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: and he's still playing so well, and it's such a 162 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: dominant player. I'm excited to see what they do if 163 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: they can get it right with everyone else around him 164 00:07:58,960 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: next year. 165 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 4: Ye thoughts to him, and I think what you're gonna 166 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 4: see is once they get things moving around him. He 167 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 4: had nine for one hundred and thirty yesterday, which is 168 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 4: what about twelve yards reception ish and wasn't very good 169 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 4: at math. But I think once he gets people around 170 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 4: him a little bit, you're gonna see those yards perception 171 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 4: go up. He's gonna be more of a attack the 172 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 4: defense in the middle guy. And he's a smart guy 173 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 4: the press. Tyler talked about it last week, his ability 174 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 4: to run all routes of all these receiver positions. Can 175 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 4: you imagine how good he's gonna be once those things 176 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: calm down in his head and he's. 177 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: An experienced receiver. 178 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: It's I you're looking at the top five guy. 179 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 1: It's good to see, at least on that side of 180 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: the football. We talked a lot about confoundary footballs is 181 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: not new. This is an issue they've had all season, 182 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: but finally get on the scoreboard and immediately give up 183 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: a touchdown to the Raiders. And it's just that ability 184 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: or lack of ability to cover, and they're letting these 185 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: huge plays come about. Obviously this one against Tyson and 186 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: Campbell setting up the touchdown, and just throughout the year. 187 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's is it scheming, it's players, it's all 188 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: of it. 189 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: It seems like, Kay, you tried to be kind with 190 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: this secondary this year and give them time to evolve, 191 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: but they've been horrible. The number of explosive plays lead 192 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: the league are a franchise record already with two games 193 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: left to play, and they've been maddeningly consistent when you 194 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: needed a play to be made, whether it was the 195 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: Packers game at the end when the Jags tied it up, 196 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: or the Eagles game when the Jaguars were making it 197 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: closer and the safety to go over the top and 198 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: DeVonta Smith was wide open at the back of the 199 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 2: end zone. I mean, it's just been game after game 200 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: after game. The secondary has to be taken apart, reconstituted, 201 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: and put back together in a different form than twenty 202 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 2: twenty five. You can't play with this. 203 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been as bad as Brian described. And look, 204 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 4: it doesn't mean every player is atrocious. It doesn't mean 205 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 4: that every play has been bad. But the NFL is 206 00:09:54,840 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 4: about like big plays, and when you give up three 207 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 4: or four a game and their game breakers like that, 208 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, the fifteen plays you did 209 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 4: make don't matter. So I did not expect this sort 210 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: of season from that bunch. 211 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: They gotta fix the safeties in particular. I mean, whether 212 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: it's about Cisco or Antonio Johnson or Turnhill Savage, I mean, 213 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: they have all been really bad and the mistakes that 214 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: they have made, whether it was Cisco an opening day 215 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: against Miami as he watched Tyreek Hill or or Philly 216 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: or the Jets game, you know, the safety Antonio Johnson 217 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: watched DeVante Adams. 218 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a fair few examples, I'm sure. 219 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: Well, I can just roll them off the top of 220 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: my head, which goes to show we've been dealing with 221 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: it all season long. 222 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, we're not gonna belabor the point. We'll 223 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: look at one more. Because Brian Thomas Juniors touched down 224 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: that broken play, we finally got one of our own 225 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: on offense. Obviously, the Raiders missing a field goal before that, 226 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: so kind of set it up. As I mentioned, both 227 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: these teams not the best, so it's set up that play. 228 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: But and we talked a little bit about this earlier 229 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: with Brian, but just it's impressive that he's able to 230 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: run all of those different routes, right, and he's doing that. 231 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: I think John you mentioned without knowing that. 232 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 4: Ent wasn't necessarily Sexton. Brian Sexton Junior could have scored 233 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 4: on that put. 234 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. 235 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: But the person I talked about a lot last week, 236 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 4: and it was very interesting that once the other guy's 237 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 4: got hurt, all of a sudden, BTJ is running routes 238 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 4: from different receiver positions. It can take veterans. There are 239 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 4: veterans who can't do that. He hasn't spent an off 240 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: season learning it. His ability to pick up the press 241 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 4: was saying basically, he he hears something that they told 242 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 4: Christian Kirk, hasn't really drilled it, and then can go 243 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 4: out and do it. That's high end football intelligence. This kid, 244 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 4: once that gets where it's it's like learning a language, right. 245 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: He sort of knows Spanish now once he really learned Spanish. 246 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 3: Wow, ole. 247 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: Oh, it's about all I know. So here's a really 248 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: impressive part we talked. I just railed on the Jaguar secondary. 249 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: How bad are the Raiders that at the snap of 250 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 2: the bowl the safety on Brian Thomas junior side runs 251 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: to the middle of it, runs away, and the corner 252 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: jumps up to meet him and then lets him go by. 253 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the only threat on the entire field, 254 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: and he's a hell of a threat. He could make 255 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: you look stupid. And two guys ran away from him. 256 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 3: What does that mean he had one job? 257 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: Listen, put three guys around him. Because you don't worry 258 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: about no offense, You don't worry about anyone else but 259 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: number seven man. You can't have enough guys to go 260 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 2: where is he? And on that play, it's like they went, 261 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: don't worry about him? 262 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 4: Or when you're having tough seasons. Yeah, those things happen 263 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 4: in tough seasons. Both teams are having tough seasons. 264 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: Stay with us here on jag Zamar and give me 265 00:12:54,920 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: your hot takes After free Jaguars fans, register your furry 266 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: friends for the Official Jaguars Official Four Legged Fan Club 267 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: for Pets presented by Forever That's Animal hospital. Your pet 268 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: will receive access to exclusive merchandise, events and sweepstakes throughout 269 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: the season to the Jaguars dot Com Slash Promotion Slash 270 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: four Legged Fan Club to sign up today. Welcome you 271 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: back in and now we're gonna give you our hot 272 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: takes from Firehouse Subs. And I don't know how blazing 273 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: hot they're gonna be. But Brian, do you got one? 274 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: Well, mind's a lot optimistic. Listen, you can turn this too, right, 275 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: I mean it can. It went south fast. I'll go 276 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: back to the end of the third quarter of Miami 277 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 2: An opening day, Travis etn fumbles into the end zone, 278 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: Dolphins recover next play touchdown, and it felt to me 279 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: like the wind was out of their sails at that moment, 280 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: and it's never really returned because of Brian Thomas Junior. 281 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: Because you're playing without Trevor Lawrence right now. 282 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: You've got Evan Ingram who will be back next year. 283 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: You've got some guys, You've got some promising young guys. 284 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: What I watched yes yesterday just made me shake my 285 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: head but realize that maybe, just maybe, if you get 286 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: this thing right in the offseason, meaning how you construct 287 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: your roster, how you deal with your salary cap, what 288 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: you decide to do going forward with your leadership, both 289 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: in personnel and in coaching. If you get it right, 290 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: you can turn this thing back around. Listen, I'm not 291 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: saying you're going to compete with Kansas City or Buffalo 292 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: or Baltimore in twenty twenty five, but you can compete 293 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: with Houston because this is not a great division. I 294 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: watch them as you probably did on Saturday. They're not 295 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: a great team. We know what the Colts and the 296 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: Titans are. The Jaguars have enough promising young talent that 297 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: they can get this thing back to a eight nine, 298 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: ten wins sort of team relatively quickly. 299 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: I believe that. 300 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, and you can get eight to nine 301 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 4: nine eight a say eight and eight. I'm an old guys, 302 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 4: but yes, even the difference between eight and nine what 303 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: this is for this team is not huge. 304 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: No, you can get it. 305 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 4: I think the long term you serve with the franchise 306 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 4: needs to be how do you get structurally over a 307 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 4: two or three year period up to the teams you're 308 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 4: talking about. 309 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 3: That's a heavier lift. 310 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: To have a legitimate Super Bowl hopes, there needs to 311 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 4: be some structure stuff in terms of the roster, Andrew 312 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 4: needs your quarterback. 313 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, take that next big step and become that elite 314 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: franchise quarterback. 315 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: If that's the case, if he comes back next. 316 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: Year better than he's ever been, Okay, I mean then 317 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: this is not enough take, right, But I do think 318 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: when you look what eight one score losses, seven of 319 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: those in the final two minutes of the game. You 320 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: flip a couple of those and you're where we're talking about, 321 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: so you can turn this thing around as quickly as 322 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: it went south on you. 323 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 4: Yep, my take was also relatively cold. It we'll call 324 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 4: it hot because it's Christmas. Same old, same old, has 325 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 4: gotten roll old. I mean, it's sort of the theme 326 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 4: of the show, and my hot take is sort of 327 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 4: what the theme of the show is. It's the exact 328 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: same stuff we've seen all year. Not enough plays at 329 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 4: the end of the game secondary can't cover, and then 330 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 4: you lose a one score game because you don't have 331 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: players except for Brian Thomas Junior who make plays about 332 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 4: the exits of notes and that's why they're not in 333 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: the playoff. 334 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: Hunt and three eleven or three and twelve min Here's 335 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: how old it is. Gotten I stopped by. 336 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: A Christmas party on my way home from the stadium 337 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: last night, and nobody wanted to ask me about the game. 338 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: Nobody even wanted to offer condolences like, oh, you guys 339 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: are dealing with this again. Nobody even wanted to talk 340 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: about the game. That's how old it's gotten. Because hope 341 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: on any given Sunday exists for NFL fans, Jaguars fans, 342 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: as sick as they are of what the season has become, 343 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: still on Sunday you want to have a little bit 344 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: of hope that at least you might enjoy your team's performance, 345 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: even in a dismal year like this. And it's gotten 346 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: so old that nobody even wanted to talk, even to 347 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: give me a little grief about it, which everyone seems 348 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 2: to want to do whether I'm in publics or wherever 349 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 2: Christmas shopping. 350 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: Not yesterday. 351 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: It's a season of cheer. Oh boy, Unfortunately I'm going 352 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: to be a little gloomy as well. I think that 353 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: was the final one score game. That's my hot take 354 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: that we're going to see this season. We've seen a 355 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: lot of close losses, nine one score losses this year, 356 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: because it felt like they were always close to getting 357 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: a win. I don't think we're going to see that 358 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: the rest of the way. Mason Rudolph's now the quarterback 359 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: for the Titans. I think if they had had him 360 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: in a quarterback, I don't believe the Jags would have 361 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: won that most recent game in Nashville. And I think 362 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: the Colts are trying to put something together, proof something 363 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: to themselves the back half of their season. So unfortunately, 364 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: I think the three that we got are the three 365 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: that we're going to have the rest of the way. 366 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: And well, especially if you're playing without more guys, right, 367 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: I mean, if Walker little because I thought cold Van 368 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 2: Landon played pretty well. I mean, I know we had 369 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: the holding call on that key fourth down play, but 370 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: I didn't even notice it most of the game. So 371 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: we obviously came in and did a pretty decent job. 372 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 2: But you know, when you lose more guys, I mean, 373 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: Ventral Miller's a guy that you might not have back, 374 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: and maybe Anton Harra send you just if you Yeah, yeah, 375 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: I think you're right. 376 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a tough one. 377 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 4: I think Sunday could be a repeat of yesterday because 378 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 4: the Titans are in the same boat. So you've got again, 379 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 4: two more teams in the same both that you don't 380 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 4: want to be. 381 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: I'll say this, Doug Peterson's four and one against the Titans. 382 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 2: That's not something a lot of Jaguars coaches over the 383 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: history of that series have been able to claim a 384 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 2: winning record. 385 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 3: So maybe he's got a little something. We'll see. I'm hopeful. 386 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 3: I'm hopeful. 387 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: There we go, and I'd love to be wrong. We 388 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: always love a Titans win no matter when it comes. 389 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: Stay with us here we'll tell you what's coming up 390 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: the rest of the week. Here on tagxam DAGs fans, 391 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: if you want customized Jaguars furniture for your home, check 392 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: au zipcha dot com to brows all the customizable options. 393 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: Zip Cherry is furniture for fans and this weekend's game 394 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: against the Titans is brought to you by publics where 395 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: shopping is a Pleasure's gonna be the final home game 396 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: of the season, guys, and many ways this is s 397 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: felt like the season would never end. But we are 398 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: nearing the end, and what's it gonna look like? Do 399 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:08,239 Speaker 1: we know? 400 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna look into over to the crowd. 401 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: In terms of the in terms of all of it. Uh. I, Oh, 402 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: we've seen it. 403 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 4: I mean I I I the last few games in 404 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 4: a season like this, there's a little less I a 405 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 4: little less enthusiasm for it. I think the game will 406 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 4: look very similar to what the last few games will 407 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 4: look like. I think you're gonna see a bunch of Jaguars, uh, 408 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 4: players that are trying hard, and you know, the top 409 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: guns aren't playing, So it's gonna. 410 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 3: Be what we've seen. Uh. 411 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 4: Now, they might catch lighting in a bottle and have 412 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 4: a really good game and get a win. 413 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 414 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 4: But it's been sort of middling lately. Yeah, I I 415 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 4: I kind of expect that we'll see well, I I 416 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 4: shet off the top and you kind of alluded to it. 417 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 4: I it feels like the human nature of a difficult 418 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 4: season in the holidays and so many of their top 419 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: players not playing, and so many young players having to play. 420 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 4: I mean, it just feels like the weight of a long, 421 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 4: disappointing season has just gotten to be too much and 422 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 4: their ability to fight it back is limited. 423 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 424 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 4: Most of these games at the end of the season 425 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 4: like this come down to I guess it. The Jagged 426 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 4: stayed in it because they got a lead. Okay, some enthusiasm. 427 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 3: We're going. The danger of these it is if you get. 428 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 4: Down by double digits at some point then guys. Doug 429 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 4: talked about it in his presser this week. It's not 430 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 4: that you quit, it's that when you get down ten 431 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 4: or something goes wrong, you sort of go off script 432 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 4: and you try to do too much and then it 433 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 4: just sort of gets Well. 434 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 2: Luckily you don't have the Lions or the Bills or 435 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: the Chiefs on your schedule the next two weeks. 436 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: You've seen that, Yeah, that was not good. Team has 437 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of a break for the holiday. We 438 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoy your holiday as well. We will 439 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: be back here on JAGXAM on Thursday to talk a 440 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: little bit more about that Titans game coming up on Sunday. 441 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 6: H