1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. I'm just about that action also. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:13,079 Speaker 2: All right, here we go there throwing into spect so 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: I'm saying it's a catch touch down. 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: We see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: go to win. 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 3: That's incredible. 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: Big banks, all banks. 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 4: I like to make money. 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: All right, this is the. 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 4: Ultimate kabak if you want to beat and we are underway. 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: Welcome into the Action Network Podcast presented by FanDuel. This 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: is your NFL Week nine Best Bets episode. I'm your host, 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: Brendan Glasheen, joined by three Action Network experts. I'll intro 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: them momentarily. They're going to be going through their three 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: favorite bets for the upcoming Week nine Sunday Monday slate. 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: As a reminder, you can find all of the picks 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: from the show, as well as the Sunday six pack 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: with Raybond and Stucky, all logged on this account Action 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: Network NFL Picks. We had a marvelous dandy Week eight, 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: eight and four. The record plus ten point six eight units, 21 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: thank you, mister Brandon Anderson. The plus seven point fifty 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: niners rams first half Niners full time amazing. 23 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 3: So for the season we are forty thirty and two 24 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: that is the record. The gens joining me today. 25 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: Brandon Anderson has mentioned Anthony Dubundo. I was going to 26 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: make a dumb joke and call you Anthony charge as 27 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: opposed to Vegas refund. 28 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:45,639 Speaker 3: But kind of a bad joke see Heavy Crickets. Yeah, anyway, Anthony, 29 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: thanks for being here. Jill Gallant joins us. 30 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: He's also the host of The Touchdown Show, which is 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: every Sunday morning during the season ten thirty am Eastern 32 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: live on the Action app, Action HQ Twitter, as well 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: as the Action. 34 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: HQ YouTube page. 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: So six teams on the by this week, the Browns, 36 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: the Cowboys, the Broncos, Yes. 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: Giants, Steelers, Niners. 38 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 2: It feels repetitive, folks, but I think we got to 39 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: keep hitting on the trendy stuff that's been happening in 40 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: the NFL. At the midway point, underdogs are still rolling, 41 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 2: hitting at a fifty seven percent clip seventy fifty two 42 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: and one against the spread. We have favorites of seven 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: points or more seven games under five hundred against the 44 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: spread at ten and seventeen. We have three of those 45 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: this weekend, case minus twelve and a half against the Titans. 46 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: The Bills are laying eleven and a half against the 47 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: Jets on the road and the Bengals, who just came 48 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: off an ugly loss on Monday night. They are laying 49 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: seven and a half against the Panthers. It's the least 50 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: profitable start for touchdown favorites since two thousand and four, 51 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: and unders continued to roll as well fifty eight percent clip. 52 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: It's the best start for the under through eight games 53 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 2: in the last twenty years, the second best last year 54 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: sixty eight fifty six and one against the number through 55 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 2: eight games. 56 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: Okay, housekeeping is over. 57 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: Before we get to the best bets, we want a 58 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: sentence to describe the week nine betting card. 59 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: Brandon Anderson, what comes to mind? 60 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're halfway through the year, and for me, it's 61 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: an old bodaghetti by Loo Sell High. Look for a 62 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 4: spot threeek and invest when things are cheap and get 63 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 4: out when it is expensive. 64 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 5: Jill Gallant find something else to do at four pm 65 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 5: Eastern Because I don't think schedule makers anticipated what these 66 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 5: matchups were going to be and how they were going 67 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 5: to play out by week nine. Because Rams Buccaneers on 68 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 5: paper looked like it was going to be an awesome matchup. 69 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 5: I'm not sure if anybody's gonna even want to watch it. 70 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 5: At the total set of forty two and a half, 71 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 5: it could just be a slog fest, very much a 72 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 5: frozen Pizza style of afternoon for sure. 73 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna hear a lot of Tony Romo. I 74 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: don't know, Jim, I don't. 75 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: Know what to do here, Jim, what do we do? 76 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of confusion. And I think in that 77 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: game based on how those two teams are trending. Anthony Dubundo, 78 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: what do you have for us my week, Blues, We've 79 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: got six teams out of action. 80 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: We've got three games this week with a ten point spread. 81 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: There's not that much of a competitive board this week 82 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: for exciting games. And like Joe mentioned, the best game 83 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: on paper coming into the season has not lived up 84 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: to the hype. And I know brand that'll be watching 85 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: the Seahawks anyway. So at four o'clock, yeah. 86 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: We can watch. 87 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: You can watch Phillies highlights. In the meantime, you might 88 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: have home run highlights with all these bye weeks. Okay, 89 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 2: let's get to our first best bet of the day. 90 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: It will come from Brandon Anderson. As a reminder, these 91 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: guys have not consulted each other before making these picks 92 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: and logging them in our Google doc. So we might 93 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: have overlap, we might have contradictions. 94 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: We welcome all of it. 95 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: Every man for himself. Brandon, start us off. I think 96 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 2: you're taking us somewhere really tropical. 97 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 4: And beautiful, somewhere we all know and love, Seattle Island. 98 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 4: We are back Seahawks plus two in Arizona. Do you 99 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 4: think you traveled to Arizona for the winter, But let's 100 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: just stay at Seattle Island the whole time. Look, let's 101 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 4: do this again. We've been on Seattle Island for a 102 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 4: few weeks now and it's going well. Seattle has three 103 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: straight double digit wins. They beat the Giants, that's a 104 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 4: playoff team, they beat the Chargers, that's a playoff team. 105 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: And they beat these Cardinals, the team that they're playing 106 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 4: three weeks ago, nineteen to nine. Six of those points 107 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 4: weren't even scored by the offense. Arizona scored a field 108 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 4: goal on the opening drive and then not again the 109 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 4: whole arrest of the game. Six turnovers, six sacks. It 110 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 4: was ugly, and now we're still making Arizona the favorite again. 111 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Books. Thank you for the line. Seattle 112 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 4: is good. How many times we have to say it. 113 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 4: Seattle is good. They are over the last five weeks 114 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 4: top six in offense and defense by Dboa. The last 115 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: three weeks they are the number one defense that's including 116 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 4: against Arizona. So I think the defense may have actually 117 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 4: caught up to the offense here. And same as we 118 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 4: said before, Arizona struggles on early downs and kind of 119 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 4: moving the chains. They rely on Tyler Murray do some 120 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 4: stuff for us. Seattle is the opposite. Seattle moves the 121 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: ball well and number three defense on first downs. So 122 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: Arizona's going to be in a rough spot all game. 123 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 4: Seattle has shown they're going to keep things moving. And 124 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: Arizona bottom five against explosive passing plays. And like we've 125 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: been saying, you'll want Gino Smith right now, not Kyler Murray. 126 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 4: Gino is the guy with all the good metrics. So 127 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: what changed since last time, Well, you know it is 128 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: three weeks. What's different? Well, two things. Number One, Danner 129 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 4: Hopkins is back. That's good, it's helpful. It's not enough 130 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 4: for an offense that couldn't score literally after the opening drive. 131 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 4: It's not enough to totally sway me to Arizona should 132 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 4: win this game. And second it is in Arizona. But 133 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 4: Seattle has won Arizona's only one one of the last 134 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 4: nine at home in the rivalry. They're two six and 135 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 4: one ats in that span. So and of course can't 136 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 4: Tyler Arizona without some Cliff Kingsbury stats. You guys know 137 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: that Kingsbury as a favorite nine to fifteen ats, thirty 138 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 4: eight percent, one in four again in the division. He 139 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 4: carol sixty two percent cover rate as an underdog eighteen 140 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 4: and ten ats in the division. You know, smith good 141 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: record in the division. Ats one more time Seattle Island. 142 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: Look next week, Seattle Island moves to Germany, so we 143 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 4: might have to take this thing abroad. We're going to 144 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: Munich maybe, but one more time here in the States 145 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 4: as an underdog. I honestly can't believe we're still going 146 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 4: to this an underdog. Take it out plus two and 147 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: take it any plus number give me. Seattle road Dogs. 148 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: This season are also forty two and thirty overall against 149 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: the spread. 150 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: It's been a good year for the road Dog. 151 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: We're at a point now you have the Staples that 152 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: was easy button Brandon's gonna have to make a button 153 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: or some sort of sounder about the Seattle Seahawks because 154 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: it is very repetitive. But he just says he does 155 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: such a magical job differentiating his delivery. 156 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 4: I was I was trying to come up with, like 157 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 4: what sound does Seahawks make? I was gonna do like 158 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: a cacaw or something, but I don't. I don't know 159 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 4: what bird sound I need here, and I'm not sure 160 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: it's maybe it's the mine. Is that what it is like? Then? 161 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 4: Email guys, I think that's what it is. Well, we'll 162 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 4: work on that, I work chop. 163 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: Seahawks are also one win away from going over their 164 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: win total, which was set at five and a half 165 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: before the season. That's pretty amazing what Pete has done 166 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: in Seattle. Okay, Joe Gallant, your first first best bet, please. 167 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 5: Sure so if you listen to our recap pod, you 168 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 5: probably know where this first pick is going because I 169 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 5: let loose a tie rad on the Jaguars that I 170 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 5: had to kind of just take a walk after the 171 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 5: podcast where I just had to simmer down. So I'm 172 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 5: going to take the Raiders minus one and a halfress 173 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 5: the Jaguars, trying to keep it a little more g 174 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 5: rated this time, and because this pick is mainly a 175 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 5: fade of the Jags. They have scored twenty points in 176 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 5: three of their last four games less than twenty points 177 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 5: rather and Trevor Warrence, he just continues to make bad 178 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 5: throws and decisions and crucial moments like during this Jags 179 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 5: five game losing streak. The defense has kind of been 180 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 5: regressing as well. Six rushing touchdowns allowed one hundred and 181 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 5: thirty five rush yards per game, nine touchdowns of wide 182 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 5: receivers already this season. 183 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 4: That's twenty ninth in the NFL. I'm expecting a huge bounce. 184 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 5: Back from Devonte Adams, who was held to just one 185 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 5: catch last week. Now, if this spread was maybe four 186 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 5: and a half, maybe you could talk me into the 187 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 5: Jags covering here. But I just no longer trust Doug 188 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 5: Peterson or Trevor Lawrence to make quality decisions when the 189 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 5: game is on the line. I mean, they led an 190 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 5: inept Broncos offense who couldn't do anything in London, walk 191 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 5: the field on them and score a game winning touchdown. 192 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 5: And also a little highlight here, Brandon, you wrote about 193 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 5: the previewing Week nine on Action Network Dot com You 194 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 5: highlighted teams returning from London and their opponent team totals 195 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 5: and how they just kind of put a number on 196 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 5: that defense. The Raiders team totals set at twenty three 197 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 5: and a half, but opponent team totals are seven to 198 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 5: two to the over in those post London games, and 199 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 5: all nine opponents have been tied or led in the 200 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 5: fourth quarter in those instances. I think the Raiders are 201 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 5: pretty much just going to roll here now. From a 202 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 5: touchdown perspective, I would say I do like the idea 203 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 5: of a Zay Jones revenge game touchdown. 204 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 4: If you can get it over plus two hundred odds 205 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 4: for the Jags. 206 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: Jacksonville is three and thirteen against the spread in their 207 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: last sixteen games. We talked about this, and you're right, 208 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: Joe Brandon's been on this. There's no rest after London. 209 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: That is a choice. 210 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 2: That is a choice these teams made before the season. 211 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: You could have opted to go into a buye. That 212 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 2: is not the case for Jacksonville. So even though the 213 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: Raiders have to travel cross country for this game, there's 214 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: still a lot of travel going on on the Jacksonville side. 215 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: Their second home, which is London, Anthony Dbundo, Welcome to 216 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: the Pod. First best bet, please. 217 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm going with the Detroit Lions plus three and a 218 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: half at home against the green Bay Packers. If you 219 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: pull up the chart for defenses in the National Football 220 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: League on OURBSDM dot com, everybody's relatively squenched in the middle. 221 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: You have a few outliers, you know, Denver, Philadelphia, Dallas 222 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,599 Speaker 1: on the good end, and then you have on the 223 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: one end. There is one extreme outlier, and it is 224 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. They have been incredibly bad defensively. We 225 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: watched it last week at home against the Miami Dolphins. 226 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: They had no answers for all of the explosive receiving 227 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: options that the Dolphins have, and Tua was able to 228 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: just sit back there and pick this team apart. I 229 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: don't think they're going to have the same problems against 230 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: this green Bay offense. Jared Goff historically much better indoors, 231 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: much better at home. Statistically, PFF grade ten points better 232 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: when he's not under pressure. Green Bay's pressure rate about 233 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: league average. The thing that's going to be important here 234 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: for the Detroit offense is that the green Bay defense 235 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: is the worst in the league on standard downs They 236 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: are thirty second, even worse than the Lions in success rate, 237 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: which means that Detroit will be able to run the ball, 238 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: They'll be able to stay ahead of the change. They're 239 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: not going to force Golf into being a hero on 240 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: obvious passing down situations particularly often. And I know that 241 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: the Lions had disappointed everybody this season, but Green Bay's 242 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: offense has not been consistent enough to get margin here. 243 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: One metric I like to look at offensive series success rate. 244 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: How often does your offense convert a series of first 245 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: down into another first down to continue to drive. It's 246 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: pretty predictive generally, Lions in the top ten, green Bay 247 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: just slightly below league average. So I'm getting the better 248 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 1: offense catching three and a half points at home, and 249 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: the Lions defense, as bad as it's been. We've had 250 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: conversations about other defenses in this league, whether it's Atlanta 251 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: when they were getting embarrassed at various points of the season, 252 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: or even Seattle defense tends to regress towards the mean. 253 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: In the long run, they cannot stay this bad forever, 254 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: and so I'm banking on a bit of a dead 255 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: cat bounce from the Lions defense getting up at home 256 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: in a divisional game against Rogers, who, let's face it, 257 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: has taken a step back this season. I don't think 258 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: it's just the weapons. I think the whole offense taking 259 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: a step back, and he's making more mistakes than he 260 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: did in years past. 261 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: Do you know the name of the new secondary's coach 262 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: in Detroit? 263 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: Top my head, I don't. 264 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 3: I don't either. I don't think it matters. That was 265 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 3: my point, It doesn't matter. 266 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean, defenses go through these periods where they're really 267 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: bad sometimes and like the personnel's not good. Jeff of 268 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: Couda's I think really good. I mean, he looked he 269 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: got exposed a little bit last week, but a lot 270 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: of that had to do with the fact that there's 271 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: just too many options in Miami to try to cover 272 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: them all. I think it was more encouraging to me. 273 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: One Acuda played pretty well in the Dallas game, and 274 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: he is seeming to be improving. Could help take away 275 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: which is already a pretty mediocre receiving corps for the Packers. 276 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: The biggest surprise for me is Lions haven't been able 277 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: to pass, protect or run the ball as well as 278 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: I thought they would come into the season. But against 279 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: this Green Bay front. This could be the game where 280 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: they get right offensively. 281 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 2: Five straight losses for the Lions straight up. They've lost 282 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: four straight against the spread for the first time since 283 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. They are five and nineteen straight up in 284 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 2: their last twenty four games at home. But the Packers 285 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: have lost four straight as well. So something's got to 286 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: give at Ford Field this week. Let's go back to 287 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: Brandon Anderson for his second pick. 288 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 4: Well, some does got to give, and I hate to 289 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 4: do it, but I gotta just come right back at 290 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 4: dbundo his debut pick. He's already ozer for one, guys, 291 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 4: because the Green Bay Packers minus three and a half 292 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: at the Lions is my second pick. He's right, this 293 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 4: is a Bilo spot. Got the wrong team though. We're 294 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 4: buying low on the Packers after four straight losses. And look, 295 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 4: I think we all expected. I did myself. I said 296 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 4: a month ago a Packers super Bowl. Take it. This 297 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 4: is the spot. 298 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: Boy. 299 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 4: Don't feel great about that one right now, but part 300 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 4: of the logic was, Okay, look at this upcoming scratch. 301 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: We got the Giants, we got the Jets, we got Washington. 302 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 4: Green Bay is going to start piling up all these wins. Well, 303 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 4: it turns out those teams are all five hundred, are 304 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 4: better like everyone in the East divisions, and the Packers. 305 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 4: I lost to all of them. But green Bay is 306 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 4: now zero to five against teams five hundred are better, 307 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 4: but three and zero against teams below five hundred. And 308 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 4: I can't believe de Bondo is trying to tell us 309 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 4: that teams regress to the mean, and using the Lions 310 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 4: as the example. The Lions haven't been meaningful in the 311 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 4: NFL since like the nineteen fifty seven championship game, and 312 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 4: that's the team coming back to the mean. This team 313 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 4: is terrible. They're worst in defense, their worst against the pass, 314 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: their thirtieth against the run, which is apparently a compliment 315 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 4: for the Lions defense. The Packers defense not good, not 316 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 4: a lot better. But the difference to me is the offense. 317 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 4: And I like Aaron Rodgers better than Jared Goff. I'm 318 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 4: just gonna put that out there. I'll take Rogers rather 319 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 4: than Goff even regressed Rogers this season, and Packers defense 320 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: pass defense has been pretty good number six in DBOA. 321 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 4: Pass offense and rush offense both top ten in DVA. 322 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 4: I think we're underestimating a little bit the Packers offense 323 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 4: just because the schedule has been difficult. The defense, their 324 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 4: face have been pretty good. So I like the Packers here, 325 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 4: and I think two. The key thing is number because 326 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 4: this is a spot I would have expected to probably 327 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 4: have to be in the line this year. But I 328 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 4: would have thought the line was going to be something 329 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 4: like Packers minus six. And it's like, oh man, Detroit, 330 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 4: they're pretty good at home, they can score a lot. 331 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 4: The back door will be open. I feel much better 332 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 4: down at minus three and a half, maybe minus three 333 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 4: if an inches back a little bit. And then all 334 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 4: the Rogers trends division favorite sixty four percent, cover rate, 335 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 4: one score favorite sixty four percent, one score favorite against 336 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 4: Detroit eight and the three against the spread. And then 337 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 4: after a loss under the floor eleven and two ats 338 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: and I know this year none of the trends matter anymore, right, Well, 339 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 4: legacy this year? Yes, what's u? 340 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: It's the year where legacy trends go to die. 341 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 4: It has been a rough year for a legacy trends. Yeah, 342 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, Yeah, the legacy trends have not been great 343 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: this year, but these trends they've been much worse for 344 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 4: guys like Brady and Russell Wilson. For Rogers, They're still 345 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 4: kind of around five hundred on these and if that's 346 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 4: a downswing, I still feel pretty good about them. The 347 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 4: key thing for me is this, Do I think the 348 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 4: Packers are a super Bowl team? I do not. Do 349 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 4: I think the Packers are good? I do not. All 350 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 4: I have to know for this game is are they 351 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 4: better than the Lions? And I do believe they're better 352 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 4: than the Lions. I will take the minus three and 353 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 4: a half on the road. 354 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: I will say I took Detroit plus four at home 355 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: against Miami last week and so, and I think that 356 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: Miami is clearly better than green Bay at this point. 357 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: So I would be a coward if I didn't go 358 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: back on the train and bet the Lions. So I'm 359 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: happy to ride with the Lions, and maybe Dan Campbell 360 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: will cook up a back door for me if it's 361 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: not looking great and we'll lose by three. 362 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 3: Do you just want pain? That's what it sounds like. 363 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean I think you know. 364 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: The green Bay defense has also been bolstered up. I mean, 365 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: let's consider the last four quarterbacks they've played, right, I 366 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: mean they played Bailey's Happy. Yes he's great, but like you, 367 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: no he's not. And then they played Zach Wilson, Danny Dimes, 368 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke. Okay, yes they played Josh, but like this 369 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: they have they play justin fields like they haven't played 370 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: a good number of quarterbacks. Not saying that Jared Goff 371 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: is on world beater, but this Detroit offense has been 372 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: very good. So I'm in I'm in the lines again. 373 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 4: Not saying Jared Goff is a world beater, but are 374 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 4: saying that I'd take Jared Goff's offense over Aaron Rodgers. 375 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 4: Just clarifying it's not beating world, just beating Aaron Rodgers. 376 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 4: We'll see how it goes. 377 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: Everybody. 378 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: Well, look, Brandon is fading the public. According to the 379 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 2: Action app right now, Detroit getting seventy five percent of 380 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: the money, fifty five percent of the bets. And the 381 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: staggering thing about this great Bay team minus four point 382 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: fifty going into the year to win the division and 383 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: now they're at plus one point eighty to win the 384 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 2: NFC North. Let's move it along to Jill Gallant, who 385 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 2: has a pick as well in the NFC North. 386 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, so We're gonna be looking at the Vikings Commanders game, 387 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 5: and I haven't had a huge luck with totals so far, 388 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 5: but I still look at this total, I think it's 389 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 5: a couple points low. We're going to take the over 390 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 5: forty three and a half for Vikings Commanders and Brandon. Again, 391 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 5: I'm not trying to demerit the Vikings for their six 392 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 5: and one record. I know we can harp about how 393 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 5: hollow it may feel, but I don't know if we 394 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 5: can really deny how well the Vikings offense has played 395 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 5: this season. I'm very impressed still with that offense. Even 396 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 5: if Kirk Cousin is yet to throw for three hundred yards. 397 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 5: The Vikings are still putting up just under twenty five 398 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 5: points per game, and the average combined score in Vikings 399 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 5: games specifically from Week three onward during this win streak 400 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 5: is fifty one point two. Now, the Commanders, they've given 401 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 5: up fourteen passing touchdowns already this season. That is kind 402 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 5: of the weakness in their defense. And I think we 403 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 5: can bank on Minnesota to at least do their part 404 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 5: in this total. And I think we could see a 405 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 5: big Jefferson game like he hasn't caught a touchdown. 406 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 4: Since Week one. 407 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 5: The big reason why I like the over, though, is 408 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 5: because of the Vikings defense, which is bottom five and 409 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 5: passing yards a labor game. 410 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 4: A guy like Taylor Heineke can get off. 411 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 5: On this kind of defense to be able to throw 412 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 5: it to the Curtis Samuels and the Terry mclaurins of 413 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 5: the world. If the Vikings get up early, I think 414 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 5: they're susceptible to some garbage time points scored by the Commanders, 415 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 5: especially the way that just happened last week against the Cardinals. So, 416 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 5: like I was saying, I think this total is about 417 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 5: a point and a half short. I think it should 418 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 5: be around forty five and a half. If it was 419 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 5: over forty five and a half, I might not play it. 420 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 5: But I feel like a forty three and a half, 421 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 5: nice little sweet spot, and we can get the over 422 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 5: forty four. 423 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 3: And who is that touchdown against that suspect Green Bay 424 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: Packers defense? Right to Bundo, Damn right, that's a cheap job. 425 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 3: Back to Anthony, Back to you, what's your second best bet. 426 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Kansas City Chiefs and the 427 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans under forty six and a half. 428 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 3: Titans. 429 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: Voodoo has burned me repeatedly throughout the past two seasons, 430 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: and I am really tired of going against this team. 431 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: Rabel has been excellent as an underdog in the past. 432 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: I don't really see how Tennessee is able to consistently 433 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: score in this game. Their offense looked lifeless against Houston. 434 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: I know they ran for one thousand yards, but they 435 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: still only scored seventeen points and the late town to 436 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: get to seventeen. So this offense has been really you know, 437 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: that's the thing about you know, the modern NFL is 438 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: when you run the ball as much as as Tennessee 439 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: wants to run the ball, they only tempted one pass 440 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,239 Speaker 1: in the first quarter of the game against Houston, then 441 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a hard time putting up big point totals, 442 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: especially when you play like Tennessee, who is dead last 443 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: in the league in pace thirty first and first half 444 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: pace thirty second and second half pace. Tennessee has also 445 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: been the best offense in the league on script this 446 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: year first quarter. I wrote about this a few weeks ago, 447 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: like they're the number one offense in the first two 448 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: drives when they're able to script out what they want 449 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: to do. Get Derek Henry on some created screens, get 450 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: them out in space, but after that they've been terrible. 451 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: They had their first touchdown in the fourth quarter all 452 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: season last week and the week before against Indianapolis when 453 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: they kicked a field goal that was their first points 454 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter this season. So there's all kinds 455 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: of problems. They have no receivers whatsoever. Kansas City's run 456 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: defense isn't as bad as people think. I don't you know. 457 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: They're right below league average. It's not as bad as 458 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: it was in the last couple of years. So I'm 459 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: encouraged by what I've heard, what I've seen from the 460 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: Kansas City run defense enough to at least contain Henry 461 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: even if you can't necessarily stop him. They're gonna load 462 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: up the box, I'm sure. And I don't see how 463 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: Tennessee scores enough here to keep up with Kansas City. 464 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: And in the second half. This is the interesting thing 465 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: about the Chiefs. They're seventh in pace in the first half. 466 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: They like to move pretty quick, but then they just 467 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: shut it down. So if they're up double digits here, 468 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: we're going to see a very slow pace in the 469 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: second half. Kansas City is bottom half of the league 470 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: in pace in the second half, so playing with the 471 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: league which I expect them to have, they're probably just 472 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: gonna shut it down move on the next week with 473 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: a pretty comfortable win. Like under forty six and a half. 474 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: Titans are two and five to the over this year. 475 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: Kansas City is four and three in those spots. Of course, 476 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: we're familiar with these two teams meeting in the playoffs 477 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 2: every once in a while. So yeah, I mean all 478 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: the trends tell you to maybe stay off Kansas City 479 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 2: on the spread, but like you said, get in there, 480 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: get out feeling healthy and making it out surviving in advancing. 481 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 3: Okay, final bet from each of you will go to 482 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 3: Brandon first. 483 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 4: You got to go back to the NFC North. Let's 484 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 4: complete the quartet. We did Packers' lines, we did Vikings. 485 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 4: Let's go for the Bears. I will take my hometown 486 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 4: or home suburban area town, Chicago Bears plus four and 487 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 4: a half to defend the home field against the Miami Dolphins. 488 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 4: So I was on Miami last week. This is now 489 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 4: a by low and a cell high spot, so sell 490 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 4: high and Miami. They're five and zero with Tula they 491 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: just got the big splashy trade for Bradley Chubb Jeff 492 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 4: Wilson in everyone's excited about Miami right now. The Bears 493 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 4: traded away rokwand Smith. They traded away Robert Quinn. Looking 494 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 4: to the future. The future might be sooner than we 495 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 4: think because guess what they found out that Justin Field 496 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 4: is allowed to run and pass the ball. It's crazy. 497 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 4: They allowed their quarterback to do the things he's good at, 498 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 4: and they're kind of fun and a little decent lately. 499 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 4: The Bears scored thirty three and twenty nine points the 500 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 4: last two weeks. The Bears, their totals were barely hitting 501 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 4: that in both sides combined. There is Sundley scoring now 502 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 4: and Miami doesn't get good pressure on the quarterback. That's 503 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 4: Chicago's weakest spot as they're pass blocking, so that gives 504 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 4: Field maybe a little more time to do some things. 505 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: And the Bears defense is awful against the run, not 506 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: something Maamy really does that well, they're all right against 507 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: the pass, and especially if they haven't really given on 508 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 4: many explosive passing plays. So I think the matchup kind 509 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 4: of gives a few problems here for what Miami does best. 510 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 4: And then there's the home road splits. Miami's defense at 511 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 4: home tenth this season, on the road dead last. They 512 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 4: have a lot at least twenty seven points in all 513 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 4: four road games. We mentioned the Dolphins Lions game last week. 514 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 4: The Lions just kept putting up points they could, Miami 515 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 4: could do nothing to stop them. And then Chicago number 516 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 4: seven defense at home versus thirty first on the road, 517 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 4: so they get the home advantage here. They're much better 518 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 4: defense in the second half. We've talked about how Miami 519 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 4: kind of pours it on late once that speed factor 520 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 4: gets there, So I think the Bears keep it close, 521 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 4: they hang around. And then one other thing, you always 522 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 4: got to keep your eye on special teams. The Dolphins 523 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 4: are the worst special teams unit in the league. The 524 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 4: Bears are top three on special teams by DVOA. So 525 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 4: that's one of those hidden things you don't really notice 526 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 4: right up until you missed an extra point and you 527 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 4: got a punt blocked and he shanked one out of bounds, 528 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 4: and just it's a spot where the Bears just keep 529 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 4: getting these little tiny advantages all games, and I think 530 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 4: they add up. So talked about the year the underdog 531 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: underdogs between three and ten points this year now forty 532 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 4: one and twenty one against the spread, sixty six percent 533 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 4: cover rate if both the teams miss the playoffs seventy 534 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 4: nine percent if the total is forty seven are blow 535 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 4: like this one's seventy one percent. Just a great spot 536 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 4: for the underdog. So I'm gonna play Chicago. 537 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: It dropped. 538 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 4: It was five and a half, it's dropped down to 539 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 4: four and a half. I don't mind that too much. 540 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 4: That's kind of a dead zone anyway. And what it 541 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 4: does tell me is that a few other betters out 542 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 4: there are also starting to notice that. You know what, 543 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 4: let's get some value on Chicago here. Money line underdogs 544 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 4: by the way of one eighty or longer like this 545 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 4: one sixteen twenty four and one straight up this year 546 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 4: thirty four percent. ROI. So I like the Dolphins, I 547 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 4: don't like the spot for them. I will take Chicago 548 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 4: to cover. I'm gonna play the money line too, a 549 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 4: plus one ninety. Let's just see what the Bears can do. 550 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the home road splits is a great 551 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 2: call because we talked so much about earlier the season, 552 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: Miami reaping the benefits of the heat being at home, 553 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: and they can take advantage of that spot. Training camp, 554 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: preseason games, they get that advantage in that spot. So 555 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 2: also there's a chance of wind and rain in the 556 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: forecast this weekend. And look, I know, two, it takes 557 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: a lot of crap from the national media. 558 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 4: Is he all that good? 559 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 3: He's going to enter that same territory. 560 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: I get the sense that Jalen Hurts was in last 561 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: year when they lost to Tampa in the playoff game. 562 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 3: Can to win a playoff game? 563 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: Two is already talking about the super Bowl, And that's cool, Like, 564 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 2: I think confidence is a big thing, but pump the 565 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: brakes a little bit. You're five and three through eight weeks. 566 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 2: You're not Buffalo right now, You're not Kansas City. So 567 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 2: I felt a little premature they're talking. And just to 568 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 2: read the quote, I think through OTAs and through training camp, 569 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: you could see the potential that we had a team 570 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 2: offensively and defensively that we're not afraid to talk. 571 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 3: About super Bowls here. I mean, good for you feeling 572 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 3: that way, but maybe a look ahead spot. I do 573 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 3: think that after the trade, they're. 574 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 2: Feeling good about themselves, as they should, but they could 575 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: still very well win the game. But the Bears have 576 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 2: been competitive, that's for sure. Let's go to Jill second 577 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: part of me last best bet. 578 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 4: That's right. 579 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, And we took Patriots minus two and a half 580 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 5: against the Jets last week. I was similar thinking, and 581 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 5: we're going right back to the well, we're taking Patriots 582 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 5: minus four and a half versus the Colts. The Colts again, 583 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 5: not trying to bully you. Anthony's first time back on 584 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 5: the show. I don't really want to just start harping 585 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 5: on why this team isn't good. But at the same time, 586 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 5: since the Jonathan Taylor injury in Week four, man like 587 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 5: this offense has just sunk to another level. Like, outside 588 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 5: of that miraculous comeback versus the Jags, they've averaged a 589 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 5: robust twelve point three points per game. They really can't 590 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 5: move the ball. In that same four game stretch, they've 591 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 5: only averaged sixteen first downs per game. To put that 592 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 5: in perspective, like the league averages twenty point three. If 593 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 5: that was a full season average, they'd be thirty first 594 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 5: in the NFL. Now, you're essentially putting a rookie quarterback 595 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 5: in Sam Ellinger, not Ellinger, as I've been corrected. 596 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 4: On the road in Foxborough. 597 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 5: That sounds like a recipe for disaster, and especially because yes, 598 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 5: this is his second year in the league, but I'm 599 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 5: viewing him as a rookie quarterback because this is his 600 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 5: second official start. Bill Belichick is ten and four against 601 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 5: the spread at home when facing rookie quarterbacks in this spot. Now, 602 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 5: the Colts, they were already one of the most sacked 603 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 5: teams in the league and allowing pressure into the Patriots. 604 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 4: What do they do? 605 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 5: They're top five in sacks and their top five in 606 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 5: interceptions as well. The Colts as well, they don't really 607 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 5: have as many checkdown options anymore, especially Jonathan Taylor, who 608 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 5: was held out of this again on Thursday. Nahem Heins 609 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 5: is now in Buffalo. I think Sam Ellinger is going 610 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 5: to look shell shocked. I think the big if if 611 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 5: Mac Jones doesn't turn the ball over. I don't really 612 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 5: see how the Colts keep this game within a touchdown. 613 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 5: That is a big if though. Now I want to 614 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 5: just cite a couple of trends from our own Evan Abrams. 615 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 5: It is weekly NFL primer on Action Network dot Com, 616 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 5: like in the last twenty years. After facing the Jets, 617 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 5: the Patriots and Bill Belichick are twenty eight and nine 618 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 5: straight up in twenty four and twelve and two against 619 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 5: the spread since twenty sixteen, So over the last six 620 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 5: years ten and one straight up, nine and two against 621 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 5: the spread, and the total is kind of moving right now. 622 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 4: But when the total is. 623 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 5: At forty or lower, Belichick is thirty one ten and 624 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,239 Speaker 5: one against the spread, a seventy six percent cover rate 625 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 5: over the last twenty years. So I just think there's 626 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 5: too many factors playing against the Colts in this matchup. 627 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 5: I'm going to take the Patriots as long as they're 628 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 5: right at this line here at four. 629 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: And a half. 630 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 3: Just a narrative to Belichick. 631 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: Won't let this group get complacent after what happened in 632 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: that Bears game Monday. Coming off a nice win against 633 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: a piss poor team like the Lions. We've talked about 634 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: the Lions quite a bit. Then you lay an egg 635 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: against Chicago on Monday night. It feels like it'll be 636 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 2: buttoned up, that's for sure. But yeah, Mac Jones take 637 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: care of the ball and just just kick field goals 638 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: in this game. Like the Patriots, thick Folk is a 639 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: freaking weapon. He might be their best player, all right, 640 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: Tubundo take us home. 641 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I see the case for the Patriots defense shutting 642 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: down the Colts, but I actually think the Colts defense 643 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: is gonna have a lot of success in this game 644 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: as well. So I'm on the under forty and a half. 645 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: It opened forty two and it's come down a little bit. 646 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: Colts defar as Buckner had I thought his best game 647 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: of the season last week after going back and rewatching it. 648 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: He looks as healthy as he's looked all season, and 649 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: the combination of him and Grover Stewart makes the Colts 650 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: a really difficult team to run on. And we've seen 651 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: that their defensive line is finally healthy. They are top 652 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: seven in both rushing success rate allowed and rushing DVOA. 653 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: So I don't think the Patriots are going to be 654 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: able to run the ball in this game, and I 655 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: really don't think. I think that Jones is actually closer 656 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: of a quarterback to what we've seen this year than 657 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: what we did last season. The regression seems real for him. 658 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: They're not able to push the ball down the field. 659 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: He's twenty fifth and EPA per play. It's a big concern. 660 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. I mean, the line is suggesting he may play. 661 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: Now it has come a little bit up in the total, 662 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: jumped up from back up to forty and a half. 663 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: I don't really think it matters whether he plays or not, 664 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: because the Colts offensive line, probably of all the units 665 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: in all of football. The most shocking to me is 666 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: how unable the Colts have been to run the football 667 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: this year, because I expected, as a fan and as 668 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: a better to them to be able to bank on 669 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: the running game being at least complacent or competent, but 670 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: it has not been there. Bottom eight in success rate. 671 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: So there's just a big red flag here because you 672 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: can run on New England, but I don't think the 673 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: Colts are going to be able to run on anybody, 674 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: any NFL team, maybe not even the Lions. So it's 675 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: hard to picture how the Colts are able to move 676 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: the ball here. And you talked about Belichick against rookies 677 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: that trend. You can just see how it plays out right. 678 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: They get pressure, they force mistakes, they give him looks 679 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: that he's never seen before. I love that Ellinger met 680 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: with Stefan Gilmour before the game this week and said, 681 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: tell me everything you know about Bill Elichick's defense. But 682 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance he's going to be 683 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: seeing ghosts by the end of this game. He actually 684 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: had a good second half. I thought Ellinger actually showed 685 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: some signs of life on the rewatch when I went 686 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: back and watched it. But I'm still not a believer 687 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: in him, not a believer in this offense. And I 688 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: think this is going to be a dragged out type, 689 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: low scoring game. 690 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll try, man. I kind of want to jump 691 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 4: in with both of you guys on this one. I 692 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 4: like Patriots first half here for a lot of the 693 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 4: same reasons you both just said. I like the Colts 694 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 4: are not a good first half team to Bundle, You've 695 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 4: written about that before their last Offensively, the defense is 696 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 4: worse than the first half as well. Patriots defense is 697 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 4: second in the first half. And yeah, that's that Ellinger thing. Ellinger. 698 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 4: Of course I'm the one that messes it up. So 699 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: Ellinger on the road, first start on the road here, 700 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 4: and I think first half. You know, maybe, like you 701 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 4: said to Bundle, he did settle in toward the end 702 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 4: of the game, but you get the first half, you 703 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 4: get it before he has a chance to kind of 704 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 4: adjust and catch his breath A little bit. I think 705 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 4: Belichick comes out with some surprise, as you know. Oh 706 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 4: Stefan Gilmour, you told him everything. Huh, Well, I got 707 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 4: a couple other tricks out in my sleeve. So I 708 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 4: think I like the first half plus that way too. 709 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 4: Even with the line of falling Jill, you get under 710 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 4: the key number if you played just the first half, 711 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 4: and I have to worry about the back door and 712 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 4: that sort of thing. So I'm with you, guys. I 713 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 4: think it's gonna be a low scoring game. I think 714 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 4: it'd rather just take the first half and then get 715 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 4: out of there and no worries. 716 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: Brandon, That's why we give you the last name Smith 717 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: on Seahawks Island to keep it simple for you for 718 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: Gino purposes. 719 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 4: Colts. 720 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Colts are zero to eight against the first half 721 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: spread this season. They have lost ten straight first half 722 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: spreads dating back to last year. 723 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: Some other notes. You both sold the bizar. 724 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 4: What's that? 725 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 3: It's bizarre they went. 726 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: They went from a good team on the script. I 727 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: mean they scored like every every drive the last two 728 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: years under Phil Rivers and Carson Wentz. You know, they 729 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: were scoring on the first drive this year nothing, And 730 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: it's strange, and you know they did just fire their 731 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, Frank Reich's taking over the play calling again 732 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: and running the offense. I don't really think it matters. 733 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: I think it really comes down to one. They need 734 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: to fire the offensive line coach. But I think it 735 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: really comes down to the regression up front and them 736 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: not being able to fade it, like they can't overcome that. 737 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,959 Speaker 1: So I think the Patriots, I think both the lines 738 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 1: are gonna feast. 739 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: And the Colts seven and one to the under this 740 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 2: year four and oh to the under on the road. 741 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: So we Oh and by the way, last note, Jonathan 742 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: Taylor not present at practice Thursday, so that is something 743 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 2: to monitor for a potential line movement. I would imagine 744 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: if he's playing Jill quickly to go back to your 745 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 2: total pick or sorry, Anthony had the total pick. Would 746 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 2: you suggest if we get word on Taylor, could that 747 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: number rise or is that probably already baked in? 748 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: I would imagine forty one is a key number, so 749 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: you could sit you could sit around and maybe try 750 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: to get a forty one. But I'm a member of 751 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: the RBSDM community. The running backs don't really matter community, 752 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: so I don't personally care I mean, the Colts didn't 753 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: have Taylor or Hines in the game against Jacksonville, and 754 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: some guy they pulled off the street, Dean Jackson, went 755 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: off and had their best receiving and rushing game of 756 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: the season for any player on the team. So it 757 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: doesn't matter for me whether Taylor plays or not. Obviously 758 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: he's a good running back, he's talented, but he has 759 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: not looked the same this year and he's clearly not 760 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: could be one hundred percent. He was banged up the 761 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: last couple of games he's played and has not been 762 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: nearly as effective. I know there's a lot of fantasy 763 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: owners that have lame out on me as a Colts fan, 764 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: so for his underperformance. 765 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 2: Before we wrap up, get the picks recapped, and also 766 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: wrap up the show, we are going to look ahead 767 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 2: quickly to week number ten to see if we like 768 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: any numbers now before any adjustments following Sunday's action, Brandon 769 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 2: Anderson look ahead line for week ten? 770 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 4: What do you have like the Steelers plus two and 771 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 4: a half at home against the Saints next week? You 772 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 4: hear that right away. You know this is a raw, 773 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 4: raw Mike Tomlin spot. So Steelers they don't play this weekend. 774 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 4: The Steelers finally get a week off. They needed it, 775 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 4: can you Pickett gets a chance to gel with the 776 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 4: offense kind of figure things out. He got thrown into 777 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 4: the fire mid game when they just said they weren't 778 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 4: going to play him, and then it's had a really 779 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 4: tough time schedule wise. He' said four starts for them 780 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 4: came on the road, and it's Buffalo, Billy and Miami, 781 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 4: three really good teams. So his defense has been getting 782 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 4: lit up. And the week off should help the defense too. 783 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 4: That secondary gets a little time to heal. Dja Watt 784 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 4: starting to practice. He might be back for this one. 785 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 4: You get defensive player of the year back. That certainly 786 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 4: is good news, especially against a shaky offensive line, and 787 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 4: they get whoever it is the Saints decided to put 788 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 4: at quarterback for this one. So I think it's a 789 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 4: good spot to grab the Steelers. Saints perception right at 790 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 4: this moment pretty high. They just beat the Raiders twenty four. Thing, 791 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 4: when was the last time anybody even thought about the 792 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 4: Saints before that game? They've been a complete afterthought on 793 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 4: the season. Now their road favorites here. Andy Dalton, James 794 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 4: Winston road favorites. I don't really see it. Dalton is 795 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 4: nine and sixteen against the spreapreadroom games. That obviously is 796 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 4: the spot that he's in on Monday night. Here, he's 797 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 4: three and eleven on the road. There. Jamis Winston if 798 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 4: it's him, and if they go Jamis thirteen twenty three 799 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 4: and three ats and toss ups eight eighteen and one 800 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 4: as a favorite. So whoever it is at quarterback, give 801 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 4: me Taysom Hill. I don't care. It's not going to 802 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 4: be a good quarterback Here'd rather have Can you pick 803 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 4: it at home? To be totally honest with the week 804 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 4: to prepare, settle in a little bit. And then the 805 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 4: old Mike Tomlin stats. You guys know Tomlin as an 806 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 4: underdog week five forward thirty nine, sixteen and one ats 807 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 4: seventy one pert. But when you get him at home, 808 00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 4: it's not often home underdog, right Tomlin fourteen two and 809 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 4: a one ats covered nine straight one seven in row 810 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 4: as an underdog thirteen and four outright at home underdog 811 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 4: in Mike Tomlin's career, nearly a one hundred percent ROI 812 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 4: on the Lion, So I like the Steelers plus two 813 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 4: and a half I like the money line. I see 814 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 4: a plus one twenty five. I don't think this was 815 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 4: going to move a ton over the weekends. The Steelers 816 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 4: aren't playing, but the Saints do play Monday night against 817 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 4: the Ravens. The Ravens are pretty good. And if the 818 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 4: Ravens come out and kind of drop the hammer on 819 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 4: the Saints and everyone goes, oh, right, this was a 820 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 4: team we hated the rest of the season, we're thinking 821 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 4: well of them right now, then, I do think this 822 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 4: can move. And like we said, two is kind of 823 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 4: a key number now as well. So I'll just grab 824 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 4: Steelers plus two and a half. Make sure I get 825 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 4: that raw ra underdog spot. 826 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 2: Speaking of that to more New Orleans the game, we 827 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 2: just got word from Saint coach to Sala that in 828 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 2: all likelihood it's no go for Michael Thomas the rest 829 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 2: of the season. 830 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, due to do injury. 831 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 4: He's been out in a few weeks games. 832 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 2: Hey, Jill, before we go real quick, I would imagine 833 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 2: with the trade of Claypool, it could be maybe Pickett 834 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 2: picking season going on. 835 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 3: There so many touchdown score situations. 836 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think the it's the odds that you have 837 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 5: to monitor because generally where he was in the pecking order, 838 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 5: he was third, so he would probably getting like plus 839 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,439 Speaker 5: three hundred to plus three fifty odds. Now moving into 840 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 5: wide receiver two spots, you're probably not going to see 841 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 5: him better than plus two hundred. And it may be 842 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 5: more if Canny Pickett struggle, like in that game against 843 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 5: New Orleans where we're just maybe not getting any offensive production, 844 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 5: but he's so talented now and being able to get 845 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 5: the you know, the cornerback to more likely because Deontay 846 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 5: Johnson is going to be facing off in that matchup, 847 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 5: likely he could go off in that game, especially if 848 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 5: Marshall Latimore. 849 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 4: Is still out. 850 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 2: Maybe some Steven Stims, Miles Boyke in love Ford, some 851 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 2: longer shots. 852 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 3: We will see. That's why we do this every week. Everybody, 853 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for tuning. 854 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 2: In to our NFL Week nine Best Bets episode recap. 855 00:39:59,719 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: The pick. 856 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 2: Brandon Anderson is on Seahawks Island, what a surprise plus 857 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 2: two against the Cardinals on the road. He loves Green 858 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 2: Bay minus three and a half against Detroit, and he's 859 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,919 Speaker 2: on the Bears plus four and a half a home 860 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 2: dog against the Dolphins. Je likes the Vegas Raiders minus 861 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 2: one and a half against Jacksonville. He's on the Minnesota 862 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 2: Washington over forty three and a half points, and he 863 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 2: likes the Patriots to cover against Indy at home minus 864 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 2: four and a half. 865 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,240 Speaker 3: Anthony Dbunda's debut picks, He's on the Lions. 866 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 2: He's going to Brandon on the Lions plus three and 867 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 2: a half against Green Bay, case Tennessee under forty six 868 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 2: and a half, and he's on New England indye, except 869 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 2: he likes the Inder forty and a half points. 870 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 3: That's gonna do it. 871 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 2: For the Action Network Podcast for our NFL Week nine 872 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 2: Best Bets episode, we are presented by Fandels to Brandon Anderson, 873 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 2: Joe Gallant. 874 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 3: Anthony Dbundo. Thanks for sliding in this week for Vegas Refund. 875 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Brendan glas Sheen. Best of bluck with 876 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 2: all of you ets this weekend. We will see you 877 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 2: again Monday morning for the recap show right here on 878 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 2: the Action Network Podcast