WEBVTT - EA Podcast: Episode 19 with Bart Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Ryan Fitzpatrick and you are listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the e A podcast with Eric Allen. Take it away?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, the Jets eventered their bye week, but I

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<v Speaker 1>got my buddy Bart Scott in studio. We don't take

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<v Speaker 1>a bye here, even though I'm fighting off something. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I got a virus and infects you

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<v Speaker 1>a science infection. So you're gonna have to bear with

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<v Speaker 1>me at home, and maybe you're gonna have to carry

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<v Speaker 1>me here. Listen, man, I told you footprints when there's

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<v Speaker 1>only one set of a footprints in the saying, is

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<v Speaker 1>then that I carried you? Okay, Matt Backer. Saturday night

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<v Speaker 1>you were at MSG. People are walking by you in

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<v Speaker 1>the hallways here at one Jets Drive and saying, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you. Apparently the UFC event for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time New York City at the world's most famous arena.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that sounds like a commercial right there. And

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<v Speaker 1>Bart Scott was in the house to watch the Notorious One. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well it was. It was a mismatch though. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a lot taller, naturally taller, bigger than than

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<v Speaker 1>the kid I think Alvarez is his name. But he

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<v Speaker 1>put on a great show. He's a great personality. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>For the first time ever in New York. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it did It didn't disappoint um. But

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<v Speaker 1>next time, I think they're gonna have to have a

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<v Speaker 1>more exciting uh contest. You know. The thing is about

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<v Speaker 1>those fights, they're so short, um that sometimes a fan

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<v Speaker 1>can lead with a dissatisfiedation. Math you kind of want

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<v Speaker 1>to see some blood and guts. But it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a good show, you know, UM. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I didn't like about it is that

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<v Speaker 1>it was so late. I mean I walked out of

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<v Speaker 1>that stadium at two o'clock. I mean, like, come on now,

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<v Speaker 1>at two o'clock, it's time. It's night, night time. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you walking down the street to your hotel at that

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<v Speaker 1>time and you got car service waiting for you at

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<v Speaker 1>the door? No? No, no, you know I don't mind

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<v Speaker 1>being amongst the pizza. You know. I went out and

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<v Speaker 1>at Ubert home, I I walked came out of the seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>seventh Avenue, um, and then I walked down to eight

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<v Speaker 1>you know, men and wife he went and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get her out the crisip you know, show something different,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, having some fun. Many date night. What is

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<v Speaker 1>the messig think about Ultimate Fighting Joe, She's she's cool

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<v Speaker 1>with combat, you know sometimes you know, you know there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of blood in there. You kids catch them

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<v Speaker 1>out of the elbow. It's a lot of blood everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>But she didn't mind, you know. I mean she's from

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<v Speaker 1>the streets of your choice. She got a little good bobble.

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<v Speaker 1>So the arena. What's the UFC crowd like? Is there

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<v Speaker 1>any different than like a boxing crowd? Different? It's more

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<v Speaker 1>like soccer. It's more like soccer. You know. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>different crowd as well. You know, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that's attracted to UFC may not particularly be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the boxing fan. Boxing fan is a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>of a casual fan. A lot of times they want

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<v Speaker 1>to be part of the moment, you know. Like UFC

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<v Speaker 1>is like a I don't want to say cold following

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<v Speaker 1>because that's a bad word, but I want I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say it's more like a like Red Bulls crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a different, different demographic, you know. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>go hard and a lot of these fighters in the

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<v Speaker 1>UFC are from different countries, you know, so you get

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<v Speaker 1>that element as well. You get the soccer like environment.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, a lot of energy there. You're a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of che and a lot of you know, coaches from

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline. I found myself, you know, spitting out advice

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<v Speaker 1>from the crowd too, because it kind of rubbed off

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<v Speaker 1>on me. Yeah, and I kind of telling the guy

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<v Speaker 1>circling to the wrong side, oh yeah, you got into it.

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<v Speaker 1>And my wife was like, listen, but she was like then,

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<v Speaker 1>you hate when people scream, fans screen stuff to you

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<v Speaker 1>from the stands, like you're you're that guy right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you know what, you're right, shut up. Just

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<v Speaker 1>like a wife. I always put you back in now,

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<v Speaker 1>you said, the chance they sing songs like some of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you remember like when Ricky Hatten used come

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<v Speaker 1>on and he said Ricky, so they got like they

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<v Speaker 1>got their little set chance. You know these guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of people from Ireland. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>think it wasn't it? It wasn't as many as I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't as many as I thought. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was gonna be like Ricky Hatton when he

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<v Speaker 1>used to come over. You know, you have like you

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<v Speaker 1>know sometimes some of the Mexican fighters come over. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a following people come and get on the plane,

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<v Speaker 1>especially from New York. You would think because it's close,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from top in the here maybe six six

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<v Speaker 1>and a half and then then it's an international airport

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<v Speaker 1>where it seemed like it would have been easier. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe they they're waiting for something greater too. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Connor McGregor, he is a master marketer. Uh, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that is something because you brought a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>personality to the game when you wanted to bring the juice,

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<v Speaker 1>you brought the juice yourself. Do you think that is

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<v Speaker 1>something you are born with or is that something that

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like that grows up in Ireland, he becomes

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<v Speaker 1>a fighter and then he sees away and says, I

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<v Speaker 1>can be a professional fighter, but I also know I

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<v Speaker 1>can make it really big by making this persona Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that that part of that is who he

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<v Speaker 1>is or is that all him? Well, it has to

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<v Speaker 1>be part of who you are to be willing to

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<v Speaker 1>step out there and take that risk, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>what happens is you're gonna be loved and hated at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. You know you're gonna be loved by

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<v Speaker 1>the people that support you, especially if you can back

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<v Speaker 1>it up. You give them more feel the more ammo

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of support you and what you say. But

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<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna be hated by something that want you

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<v Speaker 1>to have some humble I want you to be modest

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that. It's a lot harder to step

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<v Speaker 1>out there because when you step out there, everybody's waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for you, hoping that you're getting knocked out, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for that day to day your demise, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's harder because you're going to get the best

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<v Speaker 1>because you're hated by the opponent as well. But also,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, the squeaky wheel gets the oil. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're able to be successful with doing that, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money involved in and that's how you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>build up a fan base. Whether they love you, hate you,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna follow you. Do you have a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>how much of that is character, how much of that

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<v Speaker 1>is showman from him? Because I'm sure you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>personal level, but we've seen that with Diana, right. Dan

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<v Speaker 1>created Prime Time because it was something to sell, you

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<v Speaker 1>see Dennis Robbing, he was a massive marketer of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So but sometimes you can, you know, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>produce and We've seen guys that try to come out

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<v Speaker 1>and be personalities that failed because they weren't able to

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<v Speaker 1>put up the numbers. They weren't able to be successful.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I see right now a guy in the

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<v Speaker 1>Crossroads is trying to be that massive marketer um that

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<v Speaker 1>has had some setbacks in his life. Is Adrian Broner.

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<v Speaker 1>You see a guy that is trying to take a

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<v Speaker 1>page out of the Floyd Mayweather playbook. But you know

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<v Speaker 1>what may Floyd Mayweather loves and hated and also you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a great draw whenever it came to an event, with

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that no matter how much you hated him,

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<v Speaker 1>he still won, you know, and people still want to

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<v Speaker 1>come up because they wanted to say they were there

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<v Speaker 1>the day he got his big mouth shut. How big

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<v Speaker 1>do you think he is mc gregor as far as

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<v Speaker 1>on a national scene here in the United States, he's

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's the biggest thing in USC right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Him and Randa Rousey. You know, you never know, like

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<v Speaker 1>why was Tebow, you know, arguably the biggest star in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL without having a lot of production, obviously one

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest you know, you never know what fans

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna gravitate to what people are gonna see. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in certain aspects, people when they look at

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<v Speaker 1>those guys, they see themselves, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Or they see how they would be if they were

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<v Speaker 1>in that position, They see their provido, how they would respond.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think a lot of times that's when people

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<v Speaker 1>start following guys like Connor. But but does he like

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<v Speaker 1>a transcendent star already, like on a level crossover sports

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<v Speaker 1>like a Lebron James, or he started where Rhonda Rous

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<v Speaker 1>is right, if we see her in movies, she's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the highest pay athletes. You know, her fights are

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<v Speaker 1>sold out even more than men and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But then she got knocked out, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that set her back. But she went and

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<v Speaker 1>shot a movie. I think she was in Bond or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, and she was in some movie I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot I saw. But she made a step to the

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<v Speaker 1>big stage. And that's what you see. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>see the people that that's able to transcend. You look

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<v Speaker 1>at when she was in the Entourage movie as well, right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you see like Rihanna, you know, people that cross

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<v Speaker 1>over the different markets, different genres um and I think

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<v Speaker 1>she's that. I think he's on the cusp of being

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<v Speaker 1>that he has to make sure they stays clean. I

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<v Speaker 1>get knocked out. I think before that a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of crossing over where people were paying attention

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<v Speaker 1>to other sports with bone Jones, you know, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>had so many personal setbacks that he's not able to

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<v Speaker 1>take that next step because marketers don't trust them, so

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<v Speaker 1>they're not going to give him their products to trust.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna see him with a watch company. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna see him with a skin line. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see him out and commercials because they can't trust them.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, Hugh Jackman was at the Light the other night. Yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Wolverine was at the at the UH at the event,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Beckham. I think Beckham was backstage with McGregor.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I think Beckham is one of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of trying to make that transition over to

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<v Speaker 1>to to Beckham has got to be a smaller guy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he played soccer. Yeah, but yeah, but Beckham was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot bigger than McGregor. He's probably like they don't really

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<v Speaker 1>these people don't realize how big these guys. Yeah, McGregor's

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<v Speaker 1>tiny man. Yeah, like he probably got baby fist, junior

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<v Speaker 1>wapper hands. Yeah, yeah, he's a little dude, but five nine.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'll tell you why Hugh Jackman is a

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<v Speaker 1>big dude. He's well over six fot is he he

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<v Speaker 1>gets jacked up my mount and do whenever he's planning

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<v Speaker 1>is his roverine roll to. I wonder what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>special diety respect that? Yeah, what kind of special diet

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<v Speaker 1>they tape? Because he look at his other ones, he's flat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think they got secret sauce and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you look at the guy that did softball,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, oh yeah, yeah, man, they got

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<v Speaker 1>a special shake for the US athletes. Can't take that shake.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh that's Bert Scott here on the e A podcast. Listen, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>did you practice you uh impersonations when you watch guys?

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<v Speaker 1>You were such a mad wrestling fan growing up, so

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<v Speaker 1>guys like Hogan and Rowdy Piper and you know ultimate Warrior.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember I remember I got my first whooping, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean not my first whopan. Remember my mom was whooping

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<v Speaker 1>me and I dipped into my ultimate Warrior. Um on

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<v Speaker 1>your mom my mom? What but how did that go.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's whooping me, right, And I mean, when did

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<v Speaker 1>you say whooping me? You mean she did take the

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting disciplined. Yeah, and I think I said

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<v Speaker 1>something like the powers I haven't sighed. The only man

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<v Speaker 1>that can hurt me as the one that created me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's God Almighty, because I am the ultimate Warrior. She said, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you the ultimate warrior. Huh, we'll take this ultimate a warrior.

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<v Speaker 1>She just gave you more. She just gave you more.

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<v Speaker 1>You really pulled an ultimate your mother while she was

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<v Speaker 1>hitting you with a belt. Yeah, so it was so

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<v Speaker 1>it was a whopping. So I got a whooping and

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimate Warrior got a whopping at the same time. When

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<v Speaker 1>when you pull out of Hogan? When when you pull

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<v Speaker 1>out of Hogan? Growing up, I mean I used to

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<v Speaker 1>just love it, man like, even though he fell off

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't I didn't like the racist remarks he made.

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<v Speaker 1>He like, no nobody liked. He lost me as a fan.

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<v Speaker 1>But growing up, I mean in the eighties, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing. You know, it was Hawk Hogan. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Jordan was coming into you know, the eighties

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of rude by wrestling, especially the late but

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<v Speaker 1>I love Roddie Pipers, the begetting to WrestleManias. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Piper's pet was classic. The scene with him and Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Superfly Snicker. Oh yeah, oh my god, broke the coconut

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<v Speaker 1>on his head. Yes, Piper's Pitts. Snucker was crazy, like

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<v Speaker 1>what do you say? He had the most incoherent like interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>like but he could splash off the top rope. Snuck

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<v Speaker 1>was an super I always wanted to be ripped up

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<v Speaker 1>like him too. So when you go like best bodies

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<v Speaker 1>ever in wrestling, you put I put Snooker, I put Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Wonderful Rabbitship Rick Rude because he had he had the

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<v Speaker 1>skinniest torso, but he had like a twenty pack Rabbitship

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<v Speaker 1>Rick Rude, Lex Luthor Lex Luthor was a monster total package,

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<v Speaker 1>like six eight. And then for some reason I think

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<v Speaker 1>like Big Papa Pump got stuck with the special Shake

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<v Speaker 1>because remember he was like he was Rick Steiner, Rickens

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<v Speaker 1>and Scott stuck and they had the Michigan jackets. He

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't looking like. Then he came back his Big Papa

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<v Speaker 1>Puff and he had a double muscle like hold up man.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only had double that, he was the veins were

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<v Speaker 1>just anywhere everywhere, Big Papa pump Man, like he he

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<v Speaker 1>got that mutant DNA not but listen, for me, it

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<v Speaker 1>was always Piper, and I always rooted for the bad guys,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like when Hogan the steaming up with Mr

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<v Speaker 1>Teen and stuff like that. You didn't like the corner. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I was rooting for Piper and that stuff. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So so till means, who's your favorite

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<v Speaker 1>tag team all the time? Favorite you from eighties? Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it could only be one, it could only be two.

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<v Speaker 1>It was only too great. Okay, well demolition is up there. No, uh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>British Bulldogs right. Oh see that's another one. Yeah, British

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<v Speaker 1>Bulldogs were nasty, dangerous dance spite me. Uh David Kid,

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<v Speaker 1>David boy Smith. The British Bulldogs were pretty nasty. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a couple. You can go with the Rockers, Sean Michael. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go with Aren't Anderson and Old Anderson? Yeah? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was only one that was like above them all.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to remember the Four Horsemen used to have a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of tag teams and that you Yeah, the four

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<v Speaker 1>got Terry Funk and uh, you know that you had

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<v Speaker 1>that that rest of but they never stuck together. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about long term tag team fans. You go to

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<v Speaker 1>Hard Foundation. They were great, Bret Hart and I always

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<v Speaker 1>like that when the Iron Chek got tagged up with

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<v Speaker 1>the boy No no, no, no no, Nikolai Bo he

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<v Speaker 1>used to come out of classy Freddy Blassie. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can go with Slick was one of my favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can go. You can like who coo? Can

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<v Speaker 1>you say? Um? I trying to think who Jimmy Hart

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<v Speaker 1>had he had the Hard Foundation and uh, Bobby the

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<v Speaker 1>brain Heenden had a couple, but they didn't stick together.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, it's only one. You got the British Bulldogs,

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<v Speaker 1>that was fine. You had the Rockers margin Eddie and

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<v Speaker 1>that was fine. But to me, you talk about demolition,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about crush uh acts and smash Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>who were they? They were a bootleg? What who is this?

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<v Speaker 1>The legion of Animal? Yeah, I put you on, put

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<v Speaker 1>you on the shoulders, closing night off the top, rope

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<v Speaker 1>hawking Animal come on, Man's number one of all times.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'll give you that. You know their fights

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<v Speaker 1>with the Skyscrapers, Vicious and Dangers. Dan Spidey was epic.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what. I grew up in Buffalo, so on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday nights, I'd always watched c F t O, which

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<v Speaker 1>was a station out of Toronto, the Maple Leaf Gardens

0:14:55.520 --> 0:15:00.720
<v Speaker 1>wrestling Saturday nights, Saturday night. And you know he used

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<v Speaker 1>to fight all the time on this This is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that nobody would even recognize except maybe you s D.

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<v Speaker 1>Jones special delivery job. He used to be the guy

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<v Speaker 1>they he brilliant. No, he wasn't the league guy, but

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<v Speaker 1>he'd always be one of those he'd be he'd be

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<v Speaker 1>on the card and he always lose to like somebody

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<v Speaker 1>beg you know, but we'll get him, get it, get

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<v Speaker 1>him early on and Jones, well, well you have to

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<v Speaker 1>look at who was so every every wrestling uh uh

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<v Speaker 1>network had their that guy. So for w w F,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't say w w W W w w F

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<v Speaker 1>notw They called w E Entertainment. But it used to

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<v Speaker 1>be the Brooklyn Barrel of Brooklyn Brawler Cokey coo be

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<v Speaker 1>where he has come out with his parents get jacked up. Man. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know one of my favorites too, is I loved

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid who loved the junk yard

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<v Speaker 1>draw dog j y D Man. Do you know his

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<v Speaker 1>real name, real name his big well, well his uh

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<v Speaker 1>his first wrestling name is Big Daddy Ritter. Really. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a defensive linement for Green Bay. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>was a football player, j y D. He was of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorites. He was a fan. That's what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>You always want to talk about like the great personalities,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean you think about the guys who

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<v Speaker 1>could sell stuff the best. You know, people like Hogan.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he wasn't my best interview. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Nature Boy was much better, um than than Hogan And

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<v Speaker 1>to me, my favorite interview all time, the person that

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<v Speaker 1>gave you the best stuff with the macho man like

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<v Speaker 1>you never know what he was. Oh yeah, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to come down to me. Yeah, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come down, mill, Yeah, we're gonna go down. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get him down. We're gonna be brother. Well little get

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<v Speaker 1>my robe. I mean, Gene would give that look to

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<v Speaker 1>the camera, You just give that look to the camera

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<v Speaker 1>like he should be in ar wrestling of all of fame. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not you know what he may be, but I

0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:06.800
<v Speaker 1>think he was the best. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>People think, do you remember Monday and there wasn't. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a show on Monday Night on the USA Network.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't Monday Night Raw was Um? Was it called

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Time Wrestling? It was mean gene Oakerland and Gorilla Monsoon.

0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember every one's while Guerrilla would come out

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<v Speaker 1>of Wressell every like ten years, come out his old

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<v Speaker 1>school can't come Bundy outfit and trying to gorillas. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, those are golden years. Oh man, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>when life was simple, man. Life. Um, alright, So the

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<v Speaker 1>election is over. Donald Trump is the president, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to talk too much politics here. But after after,

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<v Speaker 1>after watching The Apprentice a few years back, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have never thought this could have been possible. You never

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<v Speaker 1>would have thought Schwarz would have been a governor California either,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Venturing the governor in Minnesota. I just think the

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<v Speaker 1>establishment was fed up and good luck, be careful. What

0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:07.800
<v Speaker 1>you wished for should be a wild ride and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. Now. You were at the fight. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you were at the fight Saturday night, So you did

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<v Speaker 1>not see Saturday Night Live. And I don't typically watch

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday Night Live anyway, but Dave Chappelle was on Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>Night Live. Now he is he is brilliant, he is

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<v Speaker 1>edgy time he was farting, but he was also touching

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. You know, you know, and Chappell,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can make people feel uncomfortable too. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. Show he can get he can

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<v Speaker 1>go into that sketch comedy, yes, and he can go

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<v Speaker 1>places that other people do. I need to go back

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<v Speaker 1>and watch it. You have to watch the open. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he ended it. I will say this that he ended

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<v Speaker 1>it with that, basically saying that, um, black people have

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<v Speaker 1>been disenfranchised for a long time. And what basically said was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm willing to give you a chance if

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<v Speaker 1>you're willing to give us a chance. He said that

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<v Speaker 1>at that But he had some jokes and he had

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<v Speaker 1>some skits in there that I never thought would be

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<v Speaker 1>on the n Okay. So, yes, you have to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta check it out. But you know what, comedians

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<v Speaker 1>have always had a place, I think in the healing

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<v Speaker 1>of a country because they can make they can take

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<v Speaker 1>these uncomfortable topics that they can make them lighthearted but

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<v Speaker 1>still get the point through at the same time. You

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<v Speaker 1>know who does a great job of that is Chris Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's the best and really bringing politics and

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<v Speaker 1>what it's going on in society now to the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody can't do that. Everybody can't be like Kevin Hart.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Harden doesn't really bring any social issues because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if he's willing to offend anybody and really

0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:56.200
<v Speaker 1>turn off anybody from the fan base. But Chris Rock

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<v Speaker 1>has always done that seamlessly and where people still get

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<v Speaker 1>the message and they feel, you know, entertained and not

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<v Speaker 1>offended at the same time. Now, paraphrasing a little bit,

0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Kim Martin from Newsday Good reporter who covers the Jets daily,

0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.560
<v Speaker 1>caught up a Brandon Marshall about it, and she said,

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<v Speaker 1>they're basically talking about social issues right now, and Brandon, uh, again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm paraphrasing, but he said that I think sometimes guys

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<v Speaker 1>feel like pressured now to have a stance on everything

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<v Speaker 1>when it shouldn't be that way. You, as a former

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<v Speaker 1>athlete and as a guy out there all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you feel about that? Because we grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the eighties. We grew up early nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>late eighties. Michael Jordan was always the guy that they

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<v Speaker 1>get on all the time who was never say anything

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<v Speaker 1>k right. And now it seems like there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>shift where people are saying you have to take a

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<v Speaker 1>stance on something. And I want to get your view

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<v Speaker 1>on that, because my thing is and I'm not an athlete,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think Brandon is right on that is that

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't know enough about something, you should not

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<v Speaker 1>have to feel like educated you have the responsibility to

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<v Speaker 1>take a stance on everything. There should be some things

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<v Speaker 1>that you definitely should have opinions about, and everybody should

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<v Speaker 1>have freedom of speech. But I almost feel like there's

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<v Speaker 1>too much weight being put on some people in the

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<v Speaker 1>public eye. Well, I think if you don't feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>answering something, I think you should be able at least

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<v Speaker 1>to articulate that. Like they said, I don't know enough

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<v Speaker 1>about that, I'm still learning about it on research, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's fine. But to say you have nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I think you can't go out there because

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<v Speaker 1>people too many people look up to you, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, And you know you talk about being

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<v Speaker 1>a leader in the role model. Well, people want to

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<v Speaker 1>know what you think and how they should react, because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times they react on how you react,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because they believe in you and they trust

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<v Speaker 1>in your opinion. You know, I mean no different from

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<v Speaker 1>you believing in your pastor you believe in in anybody

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<v Speaker 1>that you look at as a role model. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day, it used to be that way.

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<v Speaker 1>People to Jim Brown, people look to lu Al Sender,

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<v Speaker 1>People look to these type of athletes because they knew

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<v Speaker 1>that they were on the forefront. And you know, athletics

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<v Speaker 1>has a different, you know, stance in life because you

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<v Speaker 1>may not like you know, I mean, I'm assuming and

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not. It may not be correct, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>assumed that a lot of people that are bigger than

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<v Speaker 1>in racist, you know, still cheer for a black athlete

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<v Speaker 1>if he's helping his football team and what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>of helping his team win, you know, he's a good whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. But you know, sports of

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<v Speaker 1>a always been on the forefront of edgy issues in society.

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 1>You talk about, you know, uh, the first gay player,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about, the first black player, you talked about

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of first was in sports, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>think it gave society, um gave society the the liberty

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<v Speaker 1>to to to accept it as well, because these strong athletes.

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<v Speaker 1>How can you not accept something that your hero accepts.

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<v Speaker 1>So if if if white players were comfortable with playing

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<v Speaker 1>with Jackie Robinson and standing up for him and his rights,

0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 1>and it helped ease detention. You know, we all have

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<v Speaker 1>stereotypes about each other, but sports have always been an

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<v Speaker 1>equalizer because we only have one goal. And I think

0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, whether you're Republican or a Democrat, it still

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<v Speaker 1>should be one goal. It should be what's best for

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<v Speaker 1>the people, what's best for the country. And until we

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<v Speaker 1>can put our political parties aside and quit trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do it our way and understand that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>work with each other and and appreciate other people's points

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:32.639
<v Speaker 1>of views, we can't take the next step, but we

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:35.440
<v Speaker 1>can't act like you know, things aren't the way they are.

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<v Speaker 1>But we have to. We have to talk about it.

0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 1>We have to have a conversation, to open honest conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>And you still can believe what you believe. I still

0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 1>can believe, but I believe. But we got to say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how can we find common ground and start building from there?

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<v Speaker 1>How how do you, as a successful young black man,

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm still calling you young hope getting up there. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>another year before you, guys stop and a guy who

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:03.480
<v Speaker 1>grew up from Detroit and you've lived in different areas.

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:05.840
<v Speaker 1>They lived in Baltimore. Obviously you've spent a lot of

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:09.880
<v Speaker 1>time up here in the New York area as well. Uh,

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:11.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I know this is a big topic,

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<v Speaker 1>but how do you view race relations in the country

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<v Speaker 1>right now? I think I think, you know, I think

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:22.240
<v Speaker 1>this election proved you know what, I believe a lot

0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 1>of black athletes, black people believed anyway we already knew

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 1>no black personal minority was was. I believe shocked by

0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:31.359
<v Speaker 1>the outcome of the election, and even with all the

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 1>things that were set, you know, all the racesnogynists. I

0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 1>think this mess I just bushered that word monogynists. Um,

0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:42.640
<v Speaker 1>bigger than type of statements, you know, separate. I think

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 1>the politics about separating the country, UM. I think it

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:49.919
<v Speaker 1>just brought it to the forefront. It brought the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>up at least we know and now other people. I

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>think that's what some of the outrage is about that people.

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>You don't think people were aware of just how deep

0:24:57.720 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 1>it was like, you know, but you know, I don't

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 1>think people were. We're as aware of just how deep

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 1>this stuff goes. And you know, for the same thing

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 1>that happened. I believe when Barack ran, you know, people

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:12.440
<v Speaker 1>want to change something different. I think people in rural

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 1>America wanted the same and they found a candidate that

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<v Speaker 1>they thought would speak to them and what was best

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:21.119
<v Speaker 1>for them, and they voted on it. And the people

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<v Speaker 1>that you know came out and voted the other way

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 1>before didn't come out because they weren't inspired, you know.

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 1>So you know, listen, I'm willing go ahead and take

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>your shot. You know, if the people that voted for

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:38.679
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump um believe in him, and let's see, you know.

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 1>But for me, it's hard to believe that a man

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:44.439
<v Speaker 1>that always had his own self interest at heart for

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 1>seventy years can change and start thinking about other people first.

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's tough, But I hope he can because

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I think we need it. Yeah, but I think that

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't I wouldn't hold my breath and better on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully the rhetoric, as you said, it gets better across

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 1>or across everything, dude. And that I'm not talking social

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:08.920
<v Speaker 1>platforms away people even talk about the presidency. I believe that.

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 1>And this is not a nobody watching is working together.

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Nobody's working together. Like you know, just because you have

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>a you know, just because you're one party of me,

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you can't cooperate. It's like it's almost like if one

0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>party has a president and the other party wants that

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 1>party to fail. Yeah, it's like that's not the way

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to the way it's supposed to be. You're

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>always gonna work with people with different views than you

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:35.679
<v Speaker 1>and like you go back, you know Ronald Reagan and

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 1>uh tip O'Neill. Tip O'Neil was the leader of the

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Democrats at the time, but and Ronald Reagan was a

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>very conservative Republican who got a lot of things done

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of things accomplished. But that's because they

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>worked together, and they worked with both of their partners.

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 1>You gotta do that, I mean do like, let's this

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>is a sports show. Let's talk about Goodell and the

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Moore Smith. Come on, man, Like we're not getting stuff done,

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like we have to work together,

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, for the good of the game, and no

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>different than you know, we have to work together for

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:08.399
<v Speaker 1>the good of the country, you know. But the thing is,

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 1>you can't. You can't speak the way you speak during

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>your campaign and think that you can just talk softer

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.920
<v Speaker 1>and say, oh Obama is a nice man, or say

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 1>oh Hillary is a pleasant woman. She fall hard, and

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>think that all it's gonna be forgiven because now, to

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 1>us or to me, that's the act during your campaign,

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>when the stakes were high, that was the real you.

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 1>So you can't come back and say, no, we're gonna

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 1>work together. No, it doesn't work that way, because that's

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the that's the whole thing, especially we talk about minorities.

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 1>That's what they're used to seeing. They're used to people

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 1>hiding behind their racist views and then acting like they

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:47.640
<v Speaker 1>get along. Then soon you're out of their face. They

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>talk bad about you. See, but Donald Trump did a reverse.

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 1>She talked bad about you. Now he's trying to take

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>it back. But now you've already exposed and show who

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>you are, what you believe in and core principles, and

0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:58.639
<v Speaker 1>now you're trying to take it back and you can't.

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 1>So it's just gonna be one of those things. Man

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately would like the country to get together, but I

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>think we're more separated than ever. Oh all right, that

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:16.199
<v Speaker 1>sucks for three and seven Jets. By uh, just real quickly,

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 1>part what does the coaching staff have to do now

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:23.640
<v Speaker 1>before they get so much needed time off? I remember

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:27.360
<v Speaker 1>when you played here on the racks, everybody always used

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 1>to talk about the coaching staff would always come together

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:33.640
<v Speaker 1>during this week and self scout. So what does that mean?

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 1>This is the first time for you to take a

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.199
<v Speaker 1>deep breath, self Scott, see what we do well, what

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>we do wrong, and focus on what we do well

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and do more of that and try and improve what

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>you do bad. And I think the Jets have to

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>take a look at how other teams view them, do

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>a self scouting report as if they were their own opponent,

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>and say, okay, if I was going against this team,

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.479
<v Speaker 1>this unit, what would I do against it? And you know,

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>now you figure out that, so you know self awareness.

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Now you go back and you're trying to prove that

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and throw some things out if they need to be

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 1>thrown out. Change the game planning things, change some tendencies up.

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>If you have some telling telling Tennessee to be it formations,

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>be it down to distance um places on the field,

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>because how do you go from being one of the

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>best red zone offenses to be one of the worst.

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's because teams have scoutled you and see

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>what you like to do in the red zone. So

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 1>now you have to adjudge. That's the thing about you know, sports,

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>you always have to be able to to counter, you

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, because you know, it's very few

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>teams that can go in and say this is what

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 1>we do, stop it. A lot of us they adjudge.

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>You adjusted, it's a chess match, and I think the

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Jets have to really figure out what their next moves are.

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Playing for pride, people always say that, And I had

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 1>discussion with somebody and they said, I don't know if

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>you want to say, you know, I don't know how

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>athletes feel about playing for pride. But I thought to

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Tony Richardson about this this week in Mount Life Stadium, said,

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>you're always playing for pride. You always play for pride.

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>You want to play for the playoffs, you want to

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>win this ultimate goal, but you're always that's always there, right,

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I've always played for the respect of by peers. Um that,

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>which is basically pride. So what happens is when you're

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 1>in this situation and it's going to sound weird, but

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you know you stopped playing so much for the name

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>in front of the jersey as the name in the back, right,

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>because at the end of the day, you want to say, man,

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>when people say bart Scott, what do they think? You know?

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Right now it's hard to think about Okay, the jets, right,

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>you want to think about yourself because now at this

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 1>point a lot of people think about self preservation. They're like, man,

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, we had a losing season. A lot of

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 1>us are gonna get fired. So what you wanna do?

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>You want to put great film out there so that

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>you can survive, so that you can still have an

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to play. So now you want to make sure

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>you represent yourself. You want to make sure that in

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 1>an adverse situation, you rose to the cage and you

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't succumb to your circumstances. That now you have to

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 1>make sure that you even work even harder. So when

0:30:57.720 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>people say that, man, this dude is playing his but

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>he's playing hard. He has nothing to play for. Yes,

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I do after play for my brand I'm paying for

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>my name on my back, the people that support me,

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 1>to people that believe in me, to say that he's

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 1>not a guy that quits. He's not a quitter. Anybody

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>can play hard and be a front runner. But if

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>you find out a lot about people when hit adversity,

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>how do they respond. Do they succumb to their circumstances,

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 1>they give into it, or do they rise up and

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>say I'm beyond, I'm greater than my circumstances. And we're

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about it before. This is a great opportunity for

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of young players because you as an organization

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 1>have to find out exactly what you have here heading

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>into two thousand and seventeen and beyond as a young

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>as a young player, man, I'm like, yo, you know

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I might not have a got this opportunity. Robby Anderson,

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, Decker is healthy. You know, may not have

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 1>got this opportunity. You in the middle of a playoff run.

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 1>You might not have got that. But now you've got

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to put good film out there, not only

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>for the Jets, but for everybody in the NFL, so

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>you can continue your dream. Um, what do you think

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>about Petty? I know it's a small sample size and

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>he made his first career start. But is there anything

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>you can take away from that? You were at the

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 1>NFL today, uh studio, you watched our game a little

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>bit and things like that. Much you can take away

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>from just watching him and once start. But I thought

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>he was poised for the most part. I don't think

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>he like ran out of there, you know, took a

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>bunch of unnecessary sacks. Yeah. I think he just was inaccurate.

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I think you know he said, and he saw him

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>do it a couple of times where he over anxious

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>over gripping the ball. Well, yeah, and at times maybe

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>he was overthinking it because he's a double clutch. Yeah,

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>afraid he's afraid to believe what he sees because what

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>happens is you have you have practice speed game speed.

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>So he's been practicing against his own team and he

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 1>sees impractice speed. Now he's in a real game, and

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>now he's going against people that he don't know. He

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know the defense that they run. When you go

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>against the guys on his team. He sees his defense

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>all the time, so he understands what they're doing. Who

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>does what? But now he's going to get the team

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:04.719
<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't know who's who, and they're playing at

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 1>a different speed. So now his eyes and his process

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>has to go greater because in practice you don't get hit.

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>In this game, you know, you get hit and it

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>can hurt. So now that slows his process down. He

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>becomes over anxious, he throws the ball, you know, too

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>much juice on and not enough touch because he's speeding

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 1>up his process in his head. So now you know,

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 1>for young players, you have to try and slow the

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>game down. And I think for him it is you know,

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>for him, and there's no by week. He needs to

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>be in here. He can't take a vacation. He needs

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>to catch up so he can show he can represent

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>himself better than he did this week and show improvement

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 1>and make sure that he's gonna make the same mistakes

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>that he made last week. What would you like to

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 1>see from the Jets when they come back. We can

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>talk about it next week, but just real quickly, is

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:50.479
<v Speaker 1>Todd Bowls after the game said that he's not going

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>to commit to a quarterback right now, We're gonna see him.

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Fitzpatrick continues to heal up. I'm gonna evaluate the

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<v Speaker 1>film from Bryce. Just you maybe taking a fans perspective

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<v Speaker 1>or analysis analysis perspective on this. Would you like to

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<v Speaker 1>see Patty again? Uh? When the Jets come back to

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<v Speaker 1>play against the Patriots. I mean, I think it's safe

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<v Speaker 1>to say that, Ryan, if this pactually won't be your

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback next year, UM, so you might as well see

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<v Speaker 1>what you have, you know, um, evaluate what you have,

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<v Speaker 1>see what pieces you want to keep, who you can

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<v Speaker 1>build around, who's a couple of years away from being

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<v Speaker 1>a major contributor. And you only do that by letting

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<v Speaker 1>young guys play. And you know, veterans don't like that

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<v Speaker 1>because they say, see that you're maybe giving up on

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<v Speaker 1>the season. But every season isn't going to end in

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<v Speaker 1>a winning season. Nobody has, you know, winning seasons every year.

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<v Speaker 1>But what can be done is getting an identity and

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<v Speaker 1>establishing the identity, establishing a level of play, a commitment

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<v Speaker 1>to a certain type of style, a certain type of effort.

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<v Speaker 1>And you only get that sometimes by letting young guys play,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, because the reality is the

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<v Speaker 1>young guy as a cheat. So if they can produce

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<v Speaker 1>at the same level somewhat close to some of the

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<v Speaker 1>veteran players, and it gives you cat flexibility to go

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<v Speaker 1>out and find your elite players at certain positions. You

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<v Speaker 1>got any surprise questions for David Harris is an interview

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<v Speaker 1>that we all eagerly anticipate to watch on Jet Life

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<v Speaker 1>and on New York Jets dot com. I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>to inform him that I don't want any to answers

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<v Speaker 1>to to tour answers, you know. But you know, me

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<v Speaker 1>and David has has a great relationship. We had a

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<v Speaker 1>great planning relationship. We still maintain contact, you know after

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<v Speaker 1>after um, you know, our planning days. So people, some

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<v Speaker 1>people inside the building actually said that he was more

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<v Speaker 1>chatty than you know, actually inside the medium rooms at times.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true? Well, I can get it out of him,

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<v Speaker 1>I can. You know, I can make him like talk crap,

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<v Speaker 1>you may joke a little bit, you know. Him and

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<v Speaker 1>Beat we had a good room that was able to

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<v Speaker 1>we were close. We're a close group, so we're able

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<v Speaker 1>to to to inspire day. But speak more because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I always have something to say. So he he got

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<v Speaker 1>tired of me talking, so he started talking back. All well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking forward to that. I have a good week, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. You you get that infection cleaned up.

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