Speaker 1: Hey, this is Ryan Fitzpatrick and you are listening to
Speaker 1: the e A podcast with Eric Allen. Take it away?
Speaker 1: All right, the Jets eventered their bye week, but I
Speaker 1: got my buddy Bart Scott in studio. We don't take
Speaker 1: a bye here, even though I'm fighting off something. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I got a virus and infects you
Speaker 1: a science infection. So you're gonna have to bear with
Speaker 1: me at home, and maybe you're gonna have to carry
Speaker 1: me here. Listen, man, I told you footprints when there's
Speaker 1: only one set of a footprints in the saying, is
Speaker 1: then that I carried you? Okay, Matt Backer. Saturday night
Speaker 1: you were at MSG. People are walking by you in
Speaker 1: the hallways here at one Jets Drive and saying, yes,
Speaker 1: I saw you. Apparently the UFC event for the first
Speaker 1: time New York City at the world's most famous arena.
Speaker 1: And then that sounds like a commercial right there. And
Speaker 1: Bart Scott was in the house to watch the Notorious One. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it was. It was a mismatch though. You know,
Speaker 1: he was a lot taller, naturally taller, bigger than than
Speaker 1: the kid I think Alvarez is his name. But he
Speaker 1: put on a great show. He's a great personality. Um.
Speaker 1: For the first time ever in New York. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't think it did It didn't disappoint um. But
Speaker 1: next time, I think they're gonna have to have a
Speaker 1: more exciting uh contest. You know. The thing is about
Speaker 1: those fights, they're so short, um that sometimes a fan
Speaker 1: can lead with a dissatisfiedation. Math you kind of want
Speaker 1: to see some blood and guts. But it was. It
Speaker 1: was a good show, you know, UM. And I think
Speaker 1: you know what I didn't like about it is that
Speaker 1: it was so late. I mean I walked out of
Speaker 1: that stadium at two o'clock. I mean, like, come on now,
Speaker 1: at two o'clock, it's time. It's night, night time. Are
Speaker 1: you walking down the street to your hotel at that
Speaker 1: time and you got car service waiting for you at
Speaker 1: the door? No? No, no, you know I don't mind
Speaker 1: being amongst the pizza. You know. I went out and
Speaker 1: at Ubert home, I I walked came out of the seventh,
Speaker 1: seventh Avenue, um, and then I walked down to eight
Speaker 1: you know, men and wife he went and you know,
Speaker 1: get her out the crisip you know, show something different,
Speaker 1: you know, having some fun. Many date night. What is
Speaker 1: the messig think about Ultimate Fighting Joe, She's she's cool
Speaker 1: with combat, you know sometimes you know, you know there's
Speaker 1: a lot of blood in there. You kids catch them
Speaker 1: out of the elbow. It's a lot of blood everywhere.
Speaker 1: But she didn't mind, you know. I mean she's from
Speaker 1: the streets of your choice. She got a little good bobble.
Speaker 1: So the arena. What's the UFC crowd like? Is there
Speaker 1: any different than like a boxing crowd? Different? It's more
Speaker 1: like soccer. It's more like soccer. You know. It's a
Speaker 1: different crowd as well. You know, a lot of people
Speaker 1: that's attracted to UFC may not particularly be you know,
Speaker 1: the boxing fan. Boxing fan is a little bit more
Speaker 1: of a casual fan. A lot of times they want
Speaker 1: to be part of the moment, you know. Like UFC
Speaker 1: is like a I don't want to say cold following
Speaker 1: because that's a bad word, but I want I want
Speaker 1: to say it's more like a like Red Bulls crowd.
Speaker 1: It's a different, different demographic, you know. I mean, they
Speaker 1: go hard and a lot of these fighters in the
Speaker 1: UFC are from different countries, you know, so you get
Speaker 1: that element as well. You get the soccer like environment.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of energy there. You're a lot
Speaker 1: of che and a lot of you know, coaches from
Speaker 1: the sideline. I found myself, you know, spitting out advice
Speaker 1: from the crowd too, because it kind of rubbed off
Speaker 1: on me. Yeah, and I kind of telling the guy
Speaker 1: circling to the wrong side, oh yeah, you got into it.
Speaker 1: And my wife was like, listen, but she was like then,
Speaker 1: you hate when people scream, fans screen stuff to you
Speaker 1: from the stands, like you're you're that guy right now?
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, you're right, shut up. Just
Speaker 1: like a wife. I always put you back in now,
Speaker 1: you said, the chance they sing songs like some of that.
Speaker 1: And then you remember like when Ricky Hatten used come
Speaker 1: on and he said Ricky, so they got like they
Speaker 1: got their little set chance. You know these guys, you know,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people from Ireland. Are you
Speaker 1: think it wasn't it? It wasn't as many as I thought.
Speaker 1: It wasn't as many as I thought. You know, I
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be like Ricky Hatton when he
Speaker 1: used to come over. You know, you have like you
Speaker 1: know sometimes some of the Mexican fighters come over. You
Speaker 1: have a following people come and get on the plane,
Speaker 1: especially from New York. You would think because it's close,
Speaker 1: you know, from top in the here maybe six six
Speaker 1: and a half and then then it's an international airport
Speaker 1: where it seemed like it would have been easier. But
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they they're waiting for something greater too. Now,
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor, he is a master marketer. Uh, do you
Speaker 1: think that is something because you brought a lot of
Speaker 1: personality to the game when you wanted to bring the juice,
Speaker 1: you brought the juice yourself. Do you think that is
Speaker 1: something you are born with or is that something that
Speaker 1: a guy like that grows up in Ireland, he becomes
Speaker 1: a fighter and then he sees away and says, I
Speaker 1: can be a professional fighter, but I also know I
Speaker 1: can make it really big by making this persona Do
Speaker 1: you think that that part of that is who he
Speaker 1: is or is that all him? Well, it has to
Speaker 1: be part of who you are to be willing to
Speaker 1: step out there and take that risk, you know, because
Speaker 1: what happens is you're gonna be loved and hated at
Speaker 1: the same time. You know you're gonna be loved by
Speaker 1: the people that support you, especially if you can back
Speaker 1: it up. You give them more feel the more ammo
Speaker 1: to kind of support you and what you say. But
Speaker 1: then you're gonna be hated by something that want you
Speaker 1: to have some humble I want you to be modest
Speaker 1: and things like that. It's a lot harder to step
Speaker 1: out there because when you step out there, everybody's waiting
Speaker 1: for you, hoping that you're getting knocked out, and they're
Speaker 1: waiting for that day to day your demise, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's harder because you're going to get the best
Speaker 1: because you're hated by the opponent as well. But also,
Speaker 1: like I said, the squeaky wheel gets the oil. If
Speaker 1: you're able to be successful with doing that, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of money involved in and that's how you, you know,
Speaker 1: build up a fan base. Whether they love you, hate you,
Speaker 1: they're gonna follow you. Do you have a sense of
Speaker 1: how much of that is character, how much of that
Speaker 1: is showman from him? Because I'm sure you don't know
Speaker 1: personal level, but we've seen that with Diana, right. Dan
Speaker 1: created Prime Time because it was something to sell, you
Speaker 1: see Dennis Robbing, he was a massive marketer of it.
Speaker 1: So but sometimes you can, you know, you have to
Speaker 1: produce and We've seen guys that try to come out
Speaker 1: and be personalities that failed because they weren't able to
Speaker 1: put up the numbers. They weren't able to be successful.
Speaker 1: You know, I see right now a guy in the
Speaker 1: Crossroads is trying to be that massive marketer um that
Speaker 1: has had some setbacks in his life. Is Adrian Broner.
Speaker 1: You see a guy that is trying to take a
Speaker 1: page out of the Floyd Mayweather playbook. But you know
Speaker 1: what may Floyd Mayweather loves and hated and also you know,
Speaker 1: a great draw whenever it came to an event, with
Speaker 1: the fact that no matter how much you hated him,
Speaker 1: he still won, you know, and people still want to
Speaker 1: come up because they wanted to say they were there
Speaker 1: the day he got his big mouth shut. How big
Speaker 1: do you think he is mc gregor as far as
Speaker 1: on a national scene here in the United States, he's
Speaker 1: I think he's the biggest thing in USC right now.
Speaker 1: Him and Randa Rousey. You know, you never know, like
Speaker 1: why was Tebow, you know, arguably the biggest star in
Speaker 1: the NFL without having a lot of production, obviously one
Speaker 1: of the biggest you know, you never know what fans
Speaker 1: are gonna gravitate to what people are gonna see. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, in certain aspects, people when they look at
Speaker 1: those guys, they see themselves, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Or they see how they would be if they were
Speaker 1: in that position, They see their provido, how they would respond.
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of times that's when people
Speaker 1: start following guys like Connor. But but does he like
Speaker 1: a transcendent star already, like on a level crossover sports
Speaker 1: like a Lebron James, or he started where Rhonda Rous
Speaker 1: is right, if we see her in movies, she's one
Speaker 1: of the highest pay athletes. You know, her fights are
Speaker 1: sold out even more than men and things like that.
Speaker 1: But then she got knocked out, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that set her back. But she went and
Speaker 1: shot a movie. I think she was in Bond or
Speaker 1: something like that, and she was in some movie I
Speaker 1: forgot I saw. But she made a step to the
Speaker 1: big stage. And that's what you see. You want to
Speaker 1: see the people that that's able to transcend. You look
Speaker 1: at when she was in the Entourage movie as well, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you see like Rihanna, you know, people that cross
Speaker 1: over the different markets, different genres um and I think
Speaker 1: she's that. I think he's on the cusp of being
Speaker 1: that he has to make sure they stays clean. I
Speaker 1: get knocked out. I think before that a guy who
Speaker 1: was kind of crossing over where people were paying attention
Speaker 1: to other sports with bone Jones, you know, but he's
Speaker 1: had so many personal setbacks that he's not able to
Speaker 1: take that next step because marketers don't trust them, so
Speaker 1: they're not going to give him their products to trust.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna see him with a watch company. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna see him with a skin line. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna see him out and commercials because they can't trust them.
Speaker 1: You said, Hugh Jackman was at the Light the other night. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Wolverine was at the at the UH at the event,
Speaker 1: I saw Beckham. I think Beckham was backstage with McGregor.
Speaker 1: You know. I think Beckham is one of those guys
Speaker 1: is kind of trying to make that transition over to
Speaker 1: to to Beckham has got to be a smaller guy, right,
Speaker 1: he played soccer. Yeah, but yeah, but Beckham was a
Speaker 1: lot bigger than McGregor. He's probably like they don't really
Speaker 1: these people don't realize how big these guys. Yeah, McGregor's
Speaker 1: tiny man. Yeah, like he probably got baby fist, junior
Speaker 1: wapper hands. Yeah, yeah, he's a little dude, but five nine.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'll tell you why Hugh Jackman is a
Speaker 1: big dude. He's well over six fot is he he
Speaker 1: gets jacked up my mount and do whenever he's planning
Speaker 1: is his roverine roll to. I wonder what kind of
Speaker 1: special diety respect that? Yeah, what kind of special diet
Speaker 1: they tape? Because he look at his other ones, he's flat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think they got secret sauce and uh,
Speaker 1: you know you look at the guy that did softball,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, oh yeah, yeah, man, they got
Speaker 1: a special shake for the US athletes. Can't take that shake.
Speaker 1: Uh that's Bert Scott here on the e A podcast. Listen, Um,
Speaker 1: did you practice you uh impersonations when you watch guys?
Speaker 1: You were such a mad wrestling fan growing up, so
Speaker 1: guys like Hogan and Rowdy Piper and you know ultimate Warrior.
Speaker 1: Remember I remember I got my first whooping, right, I
Speaker 1: mean not my first whopan. Remember my mom was whooping
Speaker 1: me and I dipped into my ultimate Warrior. Um on
Speaker 1: your mom my mom? What but how did that go.
Speaker 1: So she's whooping me, right, And I mean, when did
Speaker 1: you say whooping me? You mean she did take the
Speaker 1: I was getting disciplined. Yeah, and I think I said
Speaker 1: something like the powers I haven't sighed. The only man
Speaker 1: that can hurt me as the one that created me.
Speaker 1: That's God Almighty, because I am the ultimate Warrior. She said, Oh,
Speaker 1: you the ultimate warrior. Huh, we'll take this ultimate a warrior.
Speaker 1: She just gave you more. She just gave you more.
Speaker 1: You really pulled an ultimate your mother while she was
Speaker 1: hitting you with a belt. Yeah, so it was so
Speaker 1: it was a whopping. So I got a whooping and
Speaker 1: Ultimate Warrior got a whopping at the same time. When
Speaker 1: when you pull out of Hogan? When when you pull
Speaker 1: out of Hogan? Growing up, I mean I used to
Speaker 1: just love it, man like, even though he fell off
Speaker 1: because I didn't I didn't like the racist remarks he made.
Speaker 1: He like, no nobody liked. He lost me as a fan.
Speaker 1: But growing up, I mean in the eighties, that was
Speaker 1: the biggest thing. You know, it was Hawk Hogan. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, Jordan was coming into you know, the eighties
Speaker 1: is kind of rude by wrestling, especially the late but
Speaker 1: I love Roddie Pipers, the begetting to WrestleManias. You know,
Speaker 1: Piper's pet was classic. The scene with him and Jimmy
Speaker 1: Superfly Snicker. Oh yeah, oh my god, broke the coconut
Speaker 1: on his head. Yes, Piper's Pitts. Snucker was crazy, like
Speaker 1: what do you say? He had the most incoherent like interviews,
Speaker 1: like but he could splash off the top rope. Snuck
Speaker 1: was an super I always wanted to be ripped up
Speaker 1: like him too. So when you go like best bodies
Speaker 1: ever in wrestling, you put I put Snooker, I put Mr.
Speaker 1: Wonderful Rabbitship Rick Rude because he had he had the
Speaker 1: skinniest torso, but he had like a twenty pack Rabbitship
Speaker 1: Rick Rude, Lex Luthor Lex Luthor was a monster total package,
Speaker 1: like six eight. And then for some reason I think
Speaker 1: like Big Papa Pump got stuck with the special Shake
Speaker 1: because remember he was like he was Rick Steiner, Rickens
Speaker 1: and Scott stuck and they had the Michigan jackets. He
Speaker 1: wasn't looking like. Then he came back his Big Papa
Speaker 1: Puff and he had a double muscle like hold up man.
Speaker 1: Not only had double that, he was the veins were
Speaker 1: just anywhere everywhere, Big Papa pump Man, like he he
Speaker 1: got that mutant DNA not but listen, for me, it
Speaker 1: was always Piper, and I always rooted for the bad guys,
Speaker 1: kind of like when Hogan the steaming up with Mr
Speaker 1: Teen and stuff like that. You didn't like the corner. No,
Speaker 1: I was rooting for Piper and that stuff. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So so till means, who's your favorite
Speaker 1: tag team all the time? Favorite you from eighties? Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: Then it could only be one, it could only be two.
Speaker 1: It was only too great. Okay, well demolition is up there. No, uh, okay,
Speaker 1: British Bulldogs right. Oh see that's another one. Yeah, British
Speaker 1: Bulldogs were nasty, dangerous dance spite me. Uh David Kid,
Speaker 1: David boy Smith. The British Bulldogs were pretty nasty. Um,
Speaker 1: it's a couple. You can go with the Rockers, Sean Michael. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can go with Aren't Anderson and Old Anderson? Yeah? Well,
Speaker 1: but it was only one that was like above them all.
Speaker 1: Trying to remember the Four Horsemen used to have a
Speaker 1: couple of tag teams and that you Yeah, the four
Speaker 1: got Terry Funk and uh, you know that you had
Speaker 1: that that rest of but they never stuck together. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about long term tag team fans. You go to
Speaker 1: Hard Foundation. They were great, Bret Hart and I always
Speaker 1: like that when the Iron Chek got tagged up with
Speaker 1: the boy No no, no, no no, Nikolai Bo he
Speaker 1: used to come out of classy Freddy Blassie. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you can go with Slick was one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: But you can go. You can like who coo? Can
Speaker 1: you say? Um? I trying to think who Jimmy Hart
Speaker 1: had he had the Hard Foundation and uh, Bobby the
Speaker 1: brain Heenden had a couple, but they didn't stick together.
Speaker 1: But to me, it's only one. You got the British Bulldogs,
Speaker 1: that was fine. You had the Rockers margin Eddie and
Speaker 1: that was fine. But to me, you talk about demolition,
Speaker 1: you talk about crush uh acts and smash Yeah, but
Speaker 1: who were they? They were a bootleg? What who is this?
Speaker 1: The legion of Animal? Yeah, I put you on, put
Speaker 1: you on the shoulders, closing night off the top, rope
Speaker 1: hawking Animal come on, Man's number one of all times.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll give you that. You know their fights
Speaker 1: with the Skyscrapers, Vicious and Dangers. Dan Spidey was epic.
Speaker 1: You know what. I grew up in Buffalo, so on
Speaker 1: Saturday nights, I'd always watched c F t O, which
Speaker 1: was a station out of Toronto, the Maple Leaf Gardens
Speaker 1: wrestling Saturday nights, Saturday night. And you know he used
Speaker 1: to fight all the time on this This is a
Speaker 1: guy that nobody would even recognize except maybe you s D.
Speaker 1: Jones special delivery job. He used to be the guy
Speaker 1: they he brilliant. No, he wasn't the league guy, but
Speaker 1: he'd always be one of those he'd be he'd be
Speaker 1: on the card and he always lose to like somebody
Speaker 1: beg you know, but we'll get him, get it, get
Speaker 1: him early on and Jones, well, well you have to
Speaker 1: look at who was so every every wrestling uh uh
Speaker 1: network had their that guy. So for w w F,
Speaker 1: I don't say w w W W w w F
Speaker 1: notw They called w E Entertainment. But it used to
Speaker 1: be the Brooklyn Barrel of Brooklyn Brawler Cokey coo be
Speaker 1: where he has come out with his parents get jacked up. Man. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know one of my favorites too, is I loved
Speaker 1: when I was a kid who loved the junk yard
Speaker 1: draw dog j y D Man. Do you know his
Speaker 1: real name, real name his big well, well his uh
Speaker 1: his first wrestling name is Big Daddy Ritter. Really. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was a defensive linement for Green Bay. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was a football player, j y D. He was of
Speaker 1: my favorites. He was a fan. That's what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: You always want to talk about like the great personalities,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean you think about the guys who
Speaker 1: could sell stuff the best. You know, people like Hogan.
Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't my best interview. I think the
Speaker 1: Nature Boy was much better, um than than Hogan And
Speaker 1: to me, my favorite interview all time, the person that
Speaker 1: gave you the best stuff with the macho man like
Speaker 1: you never know what he was. Oh yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: you want to come down to me. Yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: come down, mill, Yeah, we're gonna go down. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get him down. We're gonna be brother. Well little get
Speaker 1: my robe. I mean, Gene would give that look to
Speaker 1: the camera, You just give that look to the camera
Speaker 1: like he should be in ar wrestling of all of fame. Man,
Speaker 1: he's not you know what he may be, but I
Speaker 1: think he was the best. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: People think, do you remember Monday and there wasn't. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's a show on Monday Night on the USA Network.
Speaker 1: It wasn't Monday Night Raw was Um? Was it called
Speaker 1: Prime Time Wrestling? It was mean gene Oakerland and Gorilla Monsoon.
Speaker 1: Do you remember every one's while Guerrilla would come out
Speaker 1: of Wressell every like ten years, come out his old
Speaker 1: school can't come Bundy outfit and trying to gorillas. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, those are golden years. Oh man, that's that's
Speaker 1: when life was simple, man. Life. Um, alright, So the
Speaker 1: election is over. Donald Trump is the president, and we're
Speaker 1: not going to talk too much politics here. But after after,
Speaker 1: after watching The Apprentice a few years back, I would
Speaker 1: have never thought this could have been possible. You never
Speaker 1: would have thought Schwarz would have been a governor California either,
Speaker 1: Jesse Venturing the governor in Minnesota. I just think the
Speaker 1: establishment was fed up and good luck, be careful. What
Speaker 1: you wished for should be a wild ride and we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. Now. You were at the fight. Uh,
Speaker 1: you were at the fight Saturday night, So you did
Speaker 1: not see Saturday Night Live. And I don't typically watch
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live anyway, but Dave Chappelle was on Saturday
Speaker 1: Night Live. Now he is he is brilliant, he is
Speaker 1: edgy time he was farting, but he was also touching
Speaker 1: at the same time. You know, you know, and Chappell,
Speaker 1: I think you can make people feel uncomfortable too. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Show he can get he can
Speaker 1: go into that sketch comedy, yes, and he can go
Speaker 1: places that other people do. I need to go back
Speaker 1: and watch it. You have to watch the open. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: he ended it. I will say this that he ended
Speaker 1: it with that, basically saying that, um, black people have
Speaker 1: been disenfranchised for a long time. And what basically said was,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm willing to give you a chance if
Speaker 1: you're willing to give us a chance. He said that
Speaker 1: at that But he had some jokes and he had
Speaker 1: some skits in there that I never thought would be
Speaker 1: on the n Okay. So, yes, you have to watch.
Speaker 1: I gotta check it out. But you know what, comedians
Speaker 1: have always had a place, I think in the healing
Speaker 1: of a country because they can make they can take
Speaker 1: these uncomfortable topics that they can make them lighthearted but
Speaker 1: still get the point through at the same time. You
Speaker 1: know who does a great job of that is Chris Rock.
Speaker 1: I think he's the best and really bringing politics and
Speaker 1: what it's going on in society now to the stage.
Speaker 1: Everybody can't do that. Everybody can't be like Kevin Hart.
Speaker 1: Kevin Harden doesn't really bring any social issues because I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's willing to offend anybody and really
Speaker 1: turn off anybody from the fan base. But Chris Rock
Speaker 1: has always done that seamlessly and where people still get
Speaker 1: the message and they feel, you know, entertained and not
Speaker 1: offended at the same time. Now, paraphrasing a little bit,
Speaker 1: Kim Martin from Newsday Good reporter who covers the Jets daily,
Speaker 1: caught up a Brandon Marshall about it, and she said,
Speaker 1: they're basically talking about social issues right now, and Brandon, uh, again,
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, but he said that I think sometimes guys
Speaker 1: feel like pressured now to have a stance on everything
Speaker 1: when it shouldn't be that way. You, as a former
Speaker 1: athlete and as a guy out there all the time,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about that? Because we grew up.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the eighties. We grew up early nineties,
Speaker 1: late eighties. Michael Jordan was always the guy that they
Speaker 1: get on all the time who was never say anything
Speaker 1: k right. And now it seems like there's been a
Speaker 1: shift where people are saying you have to take a
Speaker 1: stance on something. And I want to get your view
Speaker 1: on that, because my thing is and I'm not an athlete,
Speaker 1: but I think Brandon is right on that is that
Speaker 1: if you don't know enough about something, you should not
Speaker 1: have to feel like educated you have the responsibility to
Speaker 1: take a stance on everything. There should be some things
Speaker 1: that you definitely should have opinions about, and everybody should
Speaker 1: have freedom of speech. But I almost feel like there's
Speaker 1: too much weight being put on some people in the
Speaker 1: public eye. Well, I think if you don't feel comfortable
Speaker 1: answering something, I think you should be able at least
Speaker 1: to articulate that. Like they said, I don't know enough
Speaker 1: about that, I'm still learning about it on research, and
Speaker 1: I think that's fine. But to say you have nothing
Speaker 1: to say, I think you can't go out there because
Speaker 1: people too many people look up to you, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, And you know you talk about being
Speaker 1: a leader in the role model. Well, people want to
Speaker 1: know what you think and how they should react, because
Speaker 1: a lot of times they react on how you react,
Speaker 1: you know, because they believe in you and they trust
Speaker 1: in your opinion. You know, I mean no different from
Speaker 1: you believing in your pastor you believe in in anybody
Speaker 1: that you look at as a role model. You know,
Speaker 1: back in the day, it used to be that way.
Speaker 1: People to Jim Brown, people look to lu Al Sender,
Speaker 1: People look to these type of athletes because they knew
Speaker 1: that they were on the forefront. And you know, athletics
Speaker 1: has a different, you know, stance in life because you
Speaker 1: may not like you know, I mean, I'm assuming and
Speaker 1: and I'm not. It may not be correct, but I'm
Speaker 1: assumed that a lot of people that are bigger than
Speaker 1: in racist, you know, still cheer for a black athlete
Speaker 1: if he's helping his football team and what I'm saying
Speaker 1: of helping his team win, you know, he's a good whatever,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you know, sports of
Speaker 1: a always been on the forefront of edgy issues in society.
Speaker 1: You talk about, you know, uh, the first gay player,
Speaker 1: you talk about, the first black player, you talked about
Speaker 1: a lot of first was in sports, and then I
Speaker 1: think it gave society, um gave society the the liberty
Speaker 1: to to to accept it as well, because these strong athletes.
Speaker 1: How can you not accept something that your hero accepts.
Speaker 1: So if if if white players were comfortable with playing
Speaker 1: with Jackie Robinson and standing up for him and his rights,
Speaker 1: and it helped ease detention. You know, we all have
Speaker 1: stereotypes about each other, but sports have always been an
Speaker 1: equalizer because we only have one goal. And I think
Speaker 1: you know, whether you're Republican or a Democrat, it still
Speaker 1: should be one goal. It should be what's best for
Speaker 1: the people, what's best for the country. And until we
Speaker 1: can put our political parties aside and quit trying to
Speaker 1: do it our way and understand that we have to
Speaker 1: work with each other and and appreciate other people's points
Speaker 1: of views, we can't take the next step, but we
Speaker 1: can't act like you know, things aren't the way they are.
Speaker 1: But we have to. We have to talk about it.
Speaker 1: We have to have a conversation, to open honest conversation.
Speaker 1: And you still can believe what you believe. I still
Speaker 1: can believe, but I believe. But we got to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: how can we find common ground and start building from there?
Speaker 1: How how do you, as a successful young black man,
Speaker 1: I'm still calling you young hope getting up there. I'll
Speaker 1: another year before you, guys stop and a guy who
Speaker 1: grew up from Detroit and you've lived in different areas.
Speaker 1: They lived in Baltimore. Obviously you've spent a lot of
Speaker 1: time up here in the New York area as well. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and I know this is a big topic,
Speaker 1: but how do you view race relations in the country
Speaker 1: right now? I think I think, you know, I think
Speaker 1: this election proved you know what, I believe a lot
Speaker 1: of black athletes, black people believed anyway we already knew
Speaker 1: no black personal minority was was. I believe shocked by
Speaker 1: the outcome of the election, and even with all the
Speaker 1: things that were set, you know, all the racesnogynists. I
Speaker 1: think this mess I just bushered that word monogynists. Um,
Speaker 1: bigger than type of statements, you know, separate. I think
Speaker 1: the politics about separating the country, UM. I think it
Speaker 1: just brought it to the forefront. It brought the conversation
Speaker 1: up at least we know and now other people. I
Speaker 1: think that's what some of the outrage is about that people.
Speaker 1: You don't think people were aware of just how deep
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, but you know, I don't
Speaker 1: think people were. We're as aware of just how deep
Speaker 1: this stuff goes. And you know, for the same thing
Speaker 1: that happened. I believe when Barack ran, you know, people
Speaker 1: want to change something different. I think people in rural
Speaker 1: America wanted the same and they found a candidate that
Speaker 1: they thought would speak to them and what was best
Speaker 1: for them, and they voted on it. And the people
Speaker 1: that you know came out and voted the other way
Speaker 1: before didn't come out because they weren't inspired, you know.
Speaker 1: So you know, listen, I'm willing go ahead and take
Speaker 1: your shot. You know, if the people that voted for
Speaker 1: Donald Trump um believe in him, and let's see, you know.
Speaker 1: But for me, it's hard to believe that a man
Speaker 1: that always had his own self interest at heart for
Speaker 1: seventy years can change and start thinking about other people first.
Speaker 1: You know, that's tough, But I hope he can because
Speaker 1: I think we need it. Yeah, but I think that
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't hold my breath and better on it.
Speaker 1: Hopefully the rhetoric, as you said, it gets better across
Speaker 1: or across everything, dude. And that I'm not talking social
Speaker 1: platforms away people even talk about the presidency. I believe that.
Speaker 1: And this is not a nobody watching is working together.
Speaker 1: Nobody's working together. Like you know, just because you have
Speaker 1: a you know, just because you're one party of me,
Speaker 1: you can't cooperate. It's like it's almost like if one
Speaker 1: party has a president and the other party wants that
Speaker 1: party to fail. Yeah, it's like that's not the way
Speaker 1: it's supposed to the way it's supposed to be. You're
Speaker 1: always gonna work with people with different views than you
Speaker 1: and like you go back, you know Ronald Reagan and
Speaker 1: uh tip O'Neill. Tip O'Neil was the leader of the
Speaker 1: Democrats at the time, but and Ronald Reagan was a
Speaker 1: very conservative Republican who got a lot of things done
Speaker 1: and a lot of things accomplished. But that's because they
Speaker 1: worked together, and they worked with both of their partners.
Speaker 1: You gotta do that, I mean do like, let's this
Speaker 1: is a sports show. Let's talk about Goodell and the
Speaker 1: Moore Smith. Come on, man, Like we're not getting stuff done,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like we have to work together,
Speaker 1: you know, for the good of the game, and no
Speaker 1: different than you know, we have to work together for
Speaker 1: the good of the country, you know. But the thing is,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't speak the way you speak during
Speaker 1: your campaign and think that you can just talk softer
Speaker 1: and say, oh Obama is a nice man, or say
Speaker 1: oh Hillary is a pleasant woman. She fall hard, and
Speaker 1: think that all it's gonna be forgiven because now, to
Speaker 1: us or to me, that's the act during your campaign,
Speaker 1: when the stakes were high, that was the real you.
Speaker 1: So you can't come back and say, no, we're gonna
Speaker 1: work together. No, it doesn't work that way, because that's
Speaker 1: the that's the whole thing, especially we talk about minorities.
Speaker 1: That's what they're used to seeing. They're used to people
Speaker 1: hiding behind their racist views and then acting like they
Speaker 1: get along. Then soon you're out of their face. They
Speaker 1: talk bad about you. See, but Donald Trump did a reverse.
Speaker 1: She talked bad about you. Now he's trying to take
Speaker 1: it back. But now you've already exposed and show who
Speaker 1: you are, what you believe in and core principles, and
Speaker 1: now you're trying to take it back and you can't.
Speaker 1: So it's just gonna be one of those things. Man
Speaker 1: unfortunately would like the country to get together, but I
Speaker 1: think we're more separated than ever. Oh all right, that
Speaker 1: sucks for three and seven Jets. By uh, just real quickly,
Speaker 1: part what does the coaching staff have to do now
Speaker 1: before they get so much needed time off? I remember
Speaker 1: when you played here on the racks, everybody always used
Speaker 1: to talk about the coaching staff would always come together
Speaker 1: during this week and self scout. So what does that mean?
Speaker 1: This is the first time for you to take a
Speaker 1: deep breath, self Scott, see what we do well, what
Speaker 1: we do wrong, and focus on what we do well
Speaker 1: and do more of that and try and improve what
Speaker 1: you do bad. And I think the Jets have to
Speaker 1: take a look at how other teams view them, do
Speaker 1: a self scouting report as if they were their own opponent,
Speaker 1: and say, okay, if I was going against this team,
Speaker 1: this unit, what would I do against it? And you know,
Speaker 1: now you figure out that, so you know self awareness.
Speaker 1: Now you go back and you're trying to prove that
Speaker 1: and throw some things out if they need to be
Speaker 1: thrown out. Change the game planning things, change some tendencies up.
Speaker 1: If you have some telling telling Tennessee to be it formations,
Speaker 1: be it down to distance um places on the field,
Speaker 1: because how do you go from being one of the
Speaker 1: best red zone offenses to be one of the worst.
Speaker 1: You know, it's because teams have scoutled you and see
Speaker 1: what you like to do in the red zone. So
Speaker 1: now you have to adjudge. That's the thing about you know, sports,
Speaker 1: you always have to be able to to counter, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because you know, it's very few
Speaker 1: teams that can go in and say this is what
Speaker 1: we do, stop it. A lot of us they adjudge.
Speaker 1: You adjusted, it's a chess match, and I think the
Speaker 1: Jets have to really figure out what their next moves are.
Speaker 1: Playing for pride, people always say that, And I had
Speaker 1: discussion with somebody and they said, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you want to say, you know, I don't know how
Speaker 1: athletes feel about playing for pride. But I thought to
Speaker 1: Tony Richardson about this this week in Mount Life Stadium, said,
Speaker 1: you're always playing for pride. You always play for pride.
Speaker 1: You want to play for the playoffs, you want to
Speaker 1: win this ultimate goal, but you're always that's always there, right,
Speaker 1: I've always played for the respect of by peers. Um that,
Speaker 1: which is basically pride. So what happens is when you're
Speaker 1: in this situation and it's going to sound weird, but
Speaker 1: you know you stopped playing so much for the name
Speaker 1: in front of the jersey as the name in the back, right,
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, you want to say, man,
Speaker 1: when people say bart Scott, what do they think? You know?
Speaker 1: Right now it's hard to think about Okay, the jets, right,
Speaker 1: you want to think about yourself because now at this
Speaker 1: point a lot of people think about self preservation. They're like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, we had a losing season. A lot of
Speaker 1: us are gonna get fired. So what you wanna do?
Speaker 1: You want to put great film out there so that
Speaker 1: you can survive, so that you can still have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to play. So now you want to make sure
Speaker 1: you represent yourself. You want to make sure that in
Speaker 1: an adverse situation, you rose to the cage and you
Speaker 1: didn't succumb to your circumstances. That now you have to
Speaker 1: make sure that you even work even harder. So when
Speaker 1: people say that, man, this dude is playing his but
Speaker 1: he's playing hard. He has nothing to play for. Yes,
Speaker 1: I do after play for my brand I'm paying for
Speaker 1: my name on my back, the people that support me,
Speaker 1: to people that believe in me, to say that he's
Speaker 1: not a guy that quits. He's not a quitter. Anybody
Speaker 1: can play hard and be a front runner. But if
Speaker 1: you find out a lot about people when hit adversity,
Speaker 1: how do they respond. Do they succumb to their circumstances,
Speaker 1: they give into it, or do they rise up and
Speaker 1: say I'm beyond, I'm greater than my circumstances. And we're
Speaker 1: talking about it before. This is a great opportunity for
Speaker 1: a lot of young players because you as an organization
Speaker 1: have to find out exactly what you have here heading
Speaker 1: into two thousand and seventeen and beyond as a young
Speaker 1: as a young player, man, I'm like, yo, you know
Speaker 1: I might not have a got this opportunity. Robby Anderson,
Speaker 1: you know, Decker is healthy. You know, may not have
Speaker 1: got this opportunity. You in the middle of a playoff run.
Speaker 1: You might not have got that. But now you've got
Speaker 1: an opportunity to put good film out there, not only
Speaker 1: for the Jets, but for everybody in the NFL, so
Speaker 1: you can continue your dream. Um, what do you think
Speaker 1: about Petty? I know it's a small sample size and
Speaker 1: he made his first career start. But is there anything
Speaker 1: you can take away from that? You were at the
Speaker 1: NFL today, uh studio, you watched our game a little
Speaker 1: bit and things like that. Much you can take away
Speaker 1: from just watching him and once start. But I thought
Speaker 1: he was poised for the most part. I don't think
Speaker 1: he like ran out of there, you know, took a
Speaker 1: bunch of unnecessary sacks. Yeah. I think he just was inaccurate.
Speaker 1: I think you know he said, and he saw him
Speaker 1: do it a couple of times where he over anxious
Speaker 1: over gripping the ball. Well, yeah, and at times maybe
Speaker 1: he was overthinking it because he's a double clutch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: afraid he's afraid to believe what he sees because what
Speaker 1: happens is you have you have practice speed game speed.
Speaker 1: So he's been practicing against his own team and he
Speaker 1: sees impractice speed. Now he's in a real game, and
Speaker 1: now he's going against people that he don't know. He
Speaker 1: don't know the defense that they run. When you go
Speaker 1: against the guys on his team. He sees his defense
Speaker 1: all the time, so he understands what they're doing. Who
Speaker 1: does what? But now he's going to get the team
Speaker 1: that he doesn't know who's who, and they're playing at
Speaker 1: a different speed. So now his eyes and his process
Speaker 1: has to go greater because in practice you don't get hit.
Speaker 1: In this game, you know, you get hit and it
Speaker 1: can hurt. So now that slows his process down. He
Speaker 1: becomes over anxious, he throws the ball, you know, too
Speaker 1: much juice on and not enough touch because he's speeding
Speaker 1: up his process in his head. So now you know,
Speaker 1: for young players, you have to try and slow the
Speaker 1: game down. And I think for him it is you know,
Speaker 1: for him, and there's no by week. He needs to
Speaker 1: be in here. He can't take a vacation. He needs
Speaker 1: to catch up so he can show he can represent
Speaker 1: himself better than he did this week and show improvement
Speaker 1: and make sure that he's gonna make the same mistakes
Speaker 1: that he made last week. What would you like to
Speaker 1: see from the Jets when they come back. We can
Speaker 1: talk about it next week, but just real quickly, is
Speaker 1: Todd Bowls after the game said that he's not going
Speaker 1: to commit to a quarterback right now, We're gonna see him.
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick continues to heal up. I'm gonna evaluate the
Speaker 1: film from Bryce. Just you maybe taking a fans perspective
Speaker 1: or analysis analysis perspective on this. Would you like to
Speaker 1: see Patty again? Uh? When the Jets come back to
Speaker 1: play against the Patriots. I mean, I think it's safe
Speaker 1: to say that, Ryan, if this pactually won't be your
Speaker 1: quarterback next year, UM, so you might as well see
Speaker 1: what you have, you know, um, evaluate what you have,
Speaker 1: see what pieces you want to keep, who you can
Speaker 1: build around, who's a couple of years away from being
Speaker 1: a major contributor. And you only do that by letting
Speaker 1: young guys play. And you know, veterans don't like that
Speaker 1: because they say, see that you're maybe giving up on
Speaker 1: the season. But every season isn't going to end in
Speaker 1: a winning season. Nobody has, you know, winning seasons every year.
Speaker 1: But what can be done is getting an identity and
Speaker 1: establishing the identity, establishing a level of play, a commitment
Speaker 1: to a certain type of style, a certain type of effort.
Speaker 1: And you only get that sometimes by letting young guys play,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because the reality is the
Speaker 1: young guy as a cheat. So if they can produce
Speaker 1: at the same level somewhat close to some of the
Speaker 1: veteran players, and it gives you cat flexibility to go
Speaker 1: out and find your elite players at certain positions. You
Speaker 1: got any surprise questions for David Harris is an interview
Speaker 1: that we all eagerly anticipate to watch on Jet Life
Speaker 1: and on New York Jets dot com. I'm just going
Speaker 1: to inform him that I don't want any to answers
Speaker 1: to to tour answers, you know. But you know, me
Speaker 1: and David has has a great relationship. We had a
Speaker 1: great planning relationship. We still maintain contact, you know after
Speaker 1: after um, you know, our planning days. So people, some
Speaker 1: people inside the building actually said that he was more
Speaker 1: chatty than you know, actually inside the medium rooms at times.
Speaker 1: Is that true? Well, I can get it out of him,
Speaker 1: I can. You know, I can make him like talk crap,
Speaker 1: you may joke a little bit, you know. Him and
Speaker 1: Beat we had a good room that was able to
Speaker 1: we were close. We're a close group, so we're able
Speaker 1: to to to inspire day. But speak more because you know,
Speaker 1: I always have something to say. So he he got
Speaker 1: tired of me talking, so he started talking back. All well,
Speaker 1: we're looking forward to that. I have a good week, brother,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. You you get that infection cleaned up.
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