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Speaker 2: My daughter has a large amount of money and I'm

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Speaker 2: There, I thirty eight mail am a concerned father of

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Speaker 2: a seventeen year old daughter seeking advice. My wife passed

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Speaker 2: away when my daughter was very young. I was still

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Speaker 2: in college, but with the help of my parents, I

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Speaker 2: managed to finish college and graduate school while raising her.

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Speaker 2: I've dated a few times since the passing of my wife,

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Speaker 2: to my career and the responsibilities of raising my daughter.

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Speaker 2: I'm ke On, and we're here to give good advice.

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Speaker 2: Goofully but we don't have all the answers. We only

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Speaker 2: know what we would do, so let us know what

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Speaker 2: you would do in the comments and no pisas. My

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Speaker 2: relationship with my daughter Sarah has always been very good.

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Speaker 2: Sarah shared my love of the outdoors, so we used

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Speaker 2: to go hiking, kayaking, and camping together quite often. In

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Speaker 2: much time with me. I'm perfectly okay with that. She's

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Speaker 2: growing up and coming into her own. Financially, we're very secure.

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Speaker 2: I've tried not to spoil my daughter and made sure

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Speaker 2: She's a straight A student, participates well in school activities,

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Speaker 2: and used to be a Girl scout until she was fourteen. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: I've always been very proud of her. She was out

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Speaker 2: I ended up having to move around some of the

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Speaker 2: her drawers. Curiosity got the best of me, and I

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, what did she saving that up for?

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Speaker 2: That's way too much money for her to have. After discovery,

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Speaker 2: I snooped around her room a bit and found some

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Speaker 2: mature for my taste, but that's a discussion for another day.

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Speaker 2: Since then, I've double checked my accounts to see if

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Speaker 2: she had secretly taken money for my accounts, but no,

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Speaker 2: I never carry much cash on me, so she couldn't

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Speaker 2: have stolen it from me. I don't think she's selling

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Speaker 2: She's not dating anyone, as far as I know, so

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Speaker 2: it couldn't be a boyfriend's money either. I haven't discussed

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Speaker 2: it tonight. Any advice on how to approach this subject

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Speaker 2: with her. Three thousand dollars is a lot of money

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be too confrontational and would like

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Speaker 2: I keep hoping she hasn't caught up in something illegal

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Speaker 2: that could jeopardize her future. Maybe I overlooked some signs.

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Speaker 2: I'm freaking out and looking for some help, and we

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Speaker 2: have some comments, but I is there a chance that

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Speaker 2: she's just like really been saving up like birthday and

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I just think the only way

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Speaker 3: have to ask her. You got to confront her, and

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Speaker 3: of found your money stash, like I also randomly, it

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Speaker 2: I'm curious too, Is this like three thousand dollars in

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Speaker 3: Or is it like the more of a random assortment

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Speaker 2: No good, Really, I feel like that's more likely to

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Speaker 3: Well, if you're selling something in something. If you're selling something,

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Speaker 3: people don't usually give you the I guess either way,

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Speaker 3: I'll give you all hundreds and twenties.

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Speaker 2: Well no, but I just meant like, if someone just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well you gotta just ask her.

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Speaker 2: Relevant comments commenter one, You need to talk to her.

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Speaker 2: I was cleaning up after the contractors left and found

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Speaker 2: that box of cash under your dresser. That's a lot

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Speaker 2: of money to leave lying around the house. It would

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Speaker 2: probably be better to deposit that into a bank. How

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Speaker 2: did you manage to save that much up? Anyway? Honestly,

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Speaker 2: good plan to be like and I'm just suggesting a

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Because that, Yeah, that is true. It should be in

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Speaker 2: a bank. Probably everyone's jumping into the worst possible scenarios,

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Speaker 2: but chances are it's perfectly innocent. She may be doing

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Speaker 2: more odd jobs for other neighbors. Maybe the neighbor she's

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Speaker 2: helping out has been giving her tips or more money

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Speaker 2: than you're aware of. The fact that it was stashed

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Speaker 2: in a box in her room is nothing to be

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Speaker 2: worried about. She's seventeen. She's probably been keeping stuff in

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Speaker 2: a bank would be a better place. Olpi says, thanks

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Speaker 2: for the advice. This seems like a good way to

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Speaker 2: Comment or two says, does she work? I worked from

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Speaker 2: And we have an edit. My daughter doesn't have a

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Speaker 2: I've told her before that she does not have to

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Speaker 2: paying her via allowance. Edit too, the clothing was really

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Speaker 2: didn't mean like revealing or anything like that, just clothing

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Speaker 2: thrifting clothes? Well, I guess if it's like that new

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the she could be doing snacks.

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Speaker 3: I know that that's that was common for a while

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Speaker 2: It's funny, you know. I feel like if she gets

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Speaker 2: could totally be saving money every week. Yeah, but that's

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Speaker 3: It is an excellent habit. I wish I saved more.

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Speaker 2: Will there you go. Good job, Dakota. Shall we open

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Speaker 3: No, I've got one of those.

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Speaker 2: And I but there's a treasure map out there. I heard,

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Speaker 3: That was in fact my fiance lied about my family

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Speaker 2: I'm Dakota, I'm Carly, and I'm Sophia, and that's Vincent.

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Speaker 3: And we are here to give you a good advice.

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Speaker 3: Goofle em. We don't have all the answers, you know.

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Speaker 3: We only know what we do, little meatballs, little goofy

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Speaker 2: He's gonna start like finding siblings you didn't know you

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Speaker 2: He's gonna make siblings just so that he can date them. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I hope that haunts your nightmares. I hope that overtakes

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Speaker 1: My gold.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Wilbur's MUD's mud.

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Speaker 3: The Secret Life of Wilbur the Pig. Okay. I told

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Speaker 3: Rose was my aunt who lived with them to save

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Speaker 3: and lost and wondering if I'm going crazy by being

436
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 3: mad at him. And there is an update, but let's

437
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,879
Speaker 3: hear what the ladies have to say about this one, now,

438
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,040
Speaker 3: fellas scar.

439
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,560
Speaker 2: This is crazy. This is crazy crazy with a capital C.

440
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 2: But that stands a fool. There's trouble right here in

441
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 2: River City. M hmm, you're right about that, right about that? Yeah,

442
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 2: that's weird. Like one, I feel like that would be

443
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,679
Speaker 2: something that I would be like, mom, guess what, and

444
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 2: like then they could have had two and a half

445
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 2: years to sit with that and be okay with it,

446
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 2: like get past your feelings. It's not your relationship kind

447
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 2: of thing exactly. But to be hit with that, like

448
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 2: in the midst of something like this big dinner thing

449
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 2: that's going on, that's like hard to just adjust and

450
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 2: bounce back really quick. She give mads up.

451
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 3: Dude, that is a supremely awkward situation.

452
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 2: You had two and a half years ago.

453
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 3: I wouldn't know how to proceed here, are you breaking up?

454
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 2: I would I'm.

455
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 3: Strongly consider it, not just because he lied for two

456
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 3: and a half years, but also because of how he

457
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 3: reacted after that reveal.

458
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I would jump right to

459
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: break up, but there I have to be like the

460
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 2: massive conversation.

461
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 3: I would I would at least be thinking about postponing

462
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 3: that there, Well.

463
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 1: We do have an update.

464
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 3: Oh no, we don't have to postpone that. Let's get

465
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 3: into it. Hey everyone, So I'm here with an update.

466
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 3: Before I got into how the talk with my fiance's

467
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 3: parents went. I want to answer some questions that a

468
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,719
Speaker 3: lot of you kept asking. Why didn't I tell his

469
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 3: parents myself about my parents in Rose? This was a

470
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 3: decent point, is it? You didn't you only meet them

471
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 3: like once?

472
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 2: Also, I'm reading some of the comments. Did they went

473
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: back and clarified that Rose is not her aunt? Right?

474
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

475
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 2: Like we didn't just leave the parents off on like.

476
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why they were so disgusted.

477
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 2: Right, Like maybe they just didn't get the clarification that Rose. Hey,

478
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 2: remember how I told you that Rose was their aunt?

479
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 2: Not actually true? That was a lie for two and

480
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 2: a half years. Came out sister, right, and he's like,

481
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 2: so one of you was dating your sister. That's kind

482
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: of strange.

483
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 3: That could make a lot of sense out of how

484
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 3: extreme their reaction.

485
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm in love with my brother in law,

486
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 2: you're in love with your brother the one from the army,

487
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 2: you know the voice thing? Does anyone know what that is?

488
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 3: I can't. That sounds vaguely familiar. To look it up

489
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 3: and then we'll come back. M Okay, this was a

490
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 3: decent point. While I still don't believe it is my

491
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 3: fault for what occurred, I do understand the point of

492
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 3: view that this was my situation and my family and

493
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 3: it's something we should have done together. I guess when

494
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 3: it comes to situations like this people's parents finding out

495
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: about my own usually friends do it for me. They

496
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 3: usually ask me permission before our families meet, and I

497
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 3: say yes. I thought it'd be easier if my fiance

498
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 3: told them before our arrival, so it wasn't just me

499
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 3: word vomiting, hi and nice to finally meet you. By

500
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 3: the way, my parents are in a polycule. But looking back, yes,

501
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 3: I should have offered to tell them as a couple.

502
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 3: That being said, if you felt that uncomfortable doing it alone,

503
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 3: I wish you would have told me yeah, instead of

504
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 3: lying to you for two and a half years.

505
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 2: That's ultimately, it's not like how how it happened or

506
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 2: like what was said. It's like the fact that he lied.

507
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he's just like, this is fine. I

508
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: never have to reveal that they don't know, because maybe

509
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 3: our parents will never ever meet. That makes perfect sense.

510
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 2: Also, it's from arrest to development. I haven't seen it,

511
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 2: nor am I.

512
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: Do his parents think my parents and Rose are related.

513
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 3: I really feel stupid for not thinking about this at

514
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 3: the time. In my family, aunt is a term used loosely.

515
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean parents, sister. I have a lot of

516
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 3: aunts and uncles that aren't related to my parents biologically,

517
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 3: but we're close and they were influential figures in my life,

518
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 3: thus the titles. So when I found out they assumed

519
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 3: Rose was an aunt, my mind just went to family friend.

520
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: But realizing they probably thought this was a Flowers in

521
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 3: the attic type situation, no wonder they freaked out. I

522
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: feel dumb for not even considering this because from.

523
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 2: The parents end of things, they're like, Wow, our son

524
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: and his future wife are so okay with their parents

525
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 2: eating their cousins.

526
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: Now, I can't really can't really.

527
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: Be doing an't really be doing that in the family,

528
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 2: you know. I could see how that one would be

529
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: a bit more of a shock than just and they're

530
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 2: in a polycule.

531
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: There have been a polycule and they are related.

532
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

533
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 3: Some have said that this situation is unusual, and even

534
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 3: if they don't assume this is a Folger's Coffee holiday

535
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 3: commercial it's naturally god that they may need a minute

536
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: to process, or that they may never accept it at all.

537
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: Many asked about religious or cultural reasons. His family isn't

538
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 3: religious or from a conservative culture. That being set, I

539
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 3: understand why this is odd to people and why they

540
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 3: may need a minute or of a hard time accepting it.

541
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 3: Even without those factors, I got protective of my parents

542
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: and rose in the moment, especially seeing how hurt my

543
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 3: mom was. Yes, she's used to it, but that doesn't

544
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 3: mean it doesn't sting when you're rejected. We're all human

545
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 3: at the end of the day. Everyone is entitled to

546
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 3: their own opinions. I am also entitled to my feelings.

547
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: I totally understand not everyone will accept my family. That

548
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 3: doesn't mean I'm not allowed to be hurt by it.

549
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: If I can't police anyone else's feelings, that goes two fold.

550
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 3: Someone asked, what if you never found a partner who

551
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 3: accepted this, or what if you never found a partner

552
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 3: whose family did. The truth is I don't need their

553
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 3: family to accept it, just be respectful. As for a partner,

554
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: I thought I had found one who was, and even

555
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: if I never did, I'd rather have my family any day. Anyways,

556
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 3: onto the update as per point number two, I realized

557
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 3: the context they were lacking, maybe playing a part. Yeah, honestly,

558
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: if they think your parents are doing cousin love and

559
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 3: that's that's a whole different ballpark. Earlier this morning, I

560
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 3: texted and asked if we could meet up and talk.

561
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 3: They were all for it. I went without my fiance

562
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 3: and we still weren't really talking. We met for breakfast

563
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 3: and the first thing I asked was for them to

564
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 3: give their side. As most expected. The weirdness and judgment

565
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: they were giving was because they assumed Rose was my

566
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 3: mom's sister.

567
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, that like it makes total sense,

568
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 2: and I judged them way less for being judgmental after

569
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: I put together that they thought that it was a sibling.

570
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 3: Right after that realization, it's just an oh yeah, yeah,

571
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 3: you should be a little upset about that.

572
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one, that one, I think you can yah you.

573
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: So they actually seemed relieved when I explained the whole

574
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 3: story and are supportive. They want to properly re meet

575
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 3: my family, which I said was sweet. I didn't want

576
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 3: to get into the hole. I don't know where your

577
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 3: son and I stand issue, as that wasn't their problem.

578
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: Can you imagine they're like, few, Yeah, we're actually also

579
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: in a polyculee with our with our son's friend. Oh yeah,

580
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: that's a relief.

581
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: Same, you're not You're not gonna believe this.

582
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 2: We're actually also dating Rose.

583
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 3: However, his mom did clarify, So your fiance knew the

584
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 3: real story this whole time and lied. I was honest

585
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 3: and said yes. I said maybe I should have made

586
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 3: sure he actually told them, but his dad interrupted and

587
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 3: said if he promised to tell them, then it was

588
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: on him to say it. They were both very disappointed

589
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: in him. They actually, what a lot of you did.

590
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 3: Even if he lied for all this time, he should

591
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: have spoken up when things got awkward and smoothed out

592
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: the situation, or even grabbed me too. They felt even worse,

593
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 3: but I told them it wasn't their fault given the context,

594
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 3: I don't blame them for acting weird. Meeting ended on

595
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: a positive note. We were all supposed to have lunch later,

596
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 3: but given everything with my fiance, I didn't feel great

597
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 3: about going, so I had him go alone. I told

598
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: his parents ahead of time, and they understood. When fiance

599
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 3: came back from lunch, he apologized. He said he wasn't

600
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: sure how to tell them and kept meaning to Unless

601
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: you just own this, bro, I'm like not accepting your

602
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: apology because that's BS.

603
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: I need to stop with this, Like, well, it was

604
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: like a hard thing to do. How did you expect

605
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 2: me to do that? Voice that you don't know how

606
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: and I'll help you.

607
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I expected you to tell me that you can't

608
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 3: do it.

609
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: I don't expect you to just lie to me for

610
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: two and a half years instead, and.

611
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: It would have just kept going forever and ever and

612
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 3: ever and ever. Yeah, if he could have kept it. Yep,

613
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: he was all so hoping that it would naturally come up.

614
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 3: I pointed out, it wasn't that he just didn't tell them,

615
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 3: He actively lied. Of course, they never suspected Rose was

616
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: anything more than an aunt in my stories, because that's

617
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: the lie he planted. He was sincere in his apology,

618
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: But then he mentioned he got a tongue thrashing from

619
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: his parents, and I wonder if he would have apologized

620
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 3: had they not told him what a silly little goose

621
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 3: he was.

622
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, tongue thrashing is crazy.

623
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: This that's the least crazy thing of this story. I'm

624
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 2: gonna be so real with you right now. O kan

625
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 2: that the least crazy thing.

626
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: I said, I understood if he felt weird about telling them,

627
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: but he should have told me. We could have navigated

628
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: it together. Instead, he let it explode, then did nothing

629
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: to help clean it up nor take accountability until his

630
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: parents scolded him. He made my parents and Rose look bad,

631
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: made me look worse, and most importantly, he lied to

632
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 3: me and his parents for two and a half years.

633
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 3: How am I supposed to trust him again about anything?

634
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: I listed some of the examples you gave. He got

635
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: quiet and said he understood, but he wanted to rebuild trust.

636
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 3: I asked if he was really okay with my family dynamic,

637
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 3: and he insisted he was. He says he loves my

638
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: family and really has no issues. He just didn't know

639
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: how to tell them. I said, I want to believe him,

640
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: but you can never fully trust a liar again. He

641
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: asked what we could do to fix this. I said

642
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: I needed time, and he offered counseling, and I said,

643
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: now I would consider it. We had started planning our

644
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 3: wedding a few weeks ago, but that has been put

645
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: on hold indefinitely. I had been living with him since

646
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: the engagement, but I'm back with my parents in Rose

647
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 3: for now. I have to decide if this is something

648
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: I can live with going forward. It's only been a

649
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: few hours, so I genuinely have no idea if I

650
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: can forgive him and move on. And there is a

651
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: little bit left to this story, I think you're gonna

652
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: need a little time to process this.

653
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that postponing the wedding is the

654
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Speaker 2: worst thing, just to like wrap your head around all

655
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: of this. This was a lot not You've been lied

656
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Speaker 2: to for two and a half years. It's crazy.

657
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Speaker 3: What else would did he be willing to lie about.

658
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Speaker 3: This is a very particular circumstance, which is the only

659
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Speaker 3: reason I'm like, yeah, you should never trust that guy again.

660
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: It's like, because if there's one thing that you might

661
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: be like unable to tell your parents, it's that, yeah,

662
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: my girlfriend's parents. There's three of them, But you should

663
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: have just been like, dude, I can't, I can't freaking

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Speaker 3: tell them.

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Speaker 2: Keon, if you hear aunt, do you think blood relative

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Speaker 2: or close family friend that you call aunt blood relative.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you see the default is you would

668
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Speaker 3: think that it's a relative. But I have aunts and

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Speaker 3: uncles the same way. But yeah, yeah, Like I would

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00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 3: never introduce him as like, oh, yeah, that's my uncle

671
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Speaker 3: and then not be like but I mean not really

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Speaker 3: but more like a family.

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Speaker 4: I do that all the time, like yeah, that's my uncle,

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Speaker 4: Like that's my really my cousin.

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Speaker 2: I was specifically asking ke On because I met so

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Speaker 2: many people when we were in the Philippines that he

677
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: was like, this is like auntie, but she's not my aunt.

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Speaker 2: So I wasn't sure if your brain went different than mine.

679
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, my brain was like kind of like I

680
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: was gonna say, yeah, when the first thing you asked me,

681
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Speaker 4: what's the first thing you come to, Like that comes

682
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 4: to mind as blood relative. But then I would go

683
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 4: on to be like I have a lot of family

684
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Speaker 4: that's not really like blood related, but I always say like,

685
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Speaker 4: that's not my aunt, Like, well that's not my blood fag.

686
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: Like, I got some cousins aunts, but my brain never

687
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: backtracks and goes, oh, maybe they're just like close friends

688
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: or other family, Like it always goes blood relative in

689
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Speaker 2: my mind.

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00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: I'll always stay on that assumption, and Casanda in the

691
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: comments says, I can't imagine going through life with a

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00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: partner that just sweeps everything under the rug and lies

693
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: point blank to your face for years. I don't think

694
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: he's swept everything, and I don't think it's necessarily a

695
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: point blank lying to your face every day for years.

696
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 3: I think it's just like a oh, in a moment,

697
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: you go, yeah, no, I totally did, and then it's like, well,

698
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 3: that doesn't ever really come up ever again. Yeah, So

699
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: it's not like a concerted effort to lie every day.

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00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: It's just sort of like a lie that just fermented

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00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: for two and a half years.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those things where it's like it's such

703
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: a big lie, Like I don't even know what you

704
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: would relate that to in like terms of other size lies,

705
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: like because it's not just like something silly, but it's

706
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: not like to the extent of like I hid cheating

707
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: from you for two and a half years, but like

708
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: it's kind of almost at that level in my head,

709
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: it is.

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00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: Like just a weird thing, like why did you not

711
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: just come to me and say I couldn't do it?

712
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: Like it's not going to come up and again.

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00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: Probably the only reason this even happened at Thanksgiving was

714
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: because of him.

715
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: Right.

716
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 3: If you didn't lie and say she was my actual aunt,

717
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: then they wouldn't have been so freaked out when they

718
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: found out they were dating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I'd need him to just take ownership

720
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: of it, yeah, and then I'd be chilling one.

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00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 3: It's the fact that he's not owning it that would

722
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: make me the most upset, because it's just like we'll

723
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 3: just be mad at them. It's like, no, it's your fault,

724
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 3: this is all you anyway, Hey, it's Sam.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to these stories. But here's three

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Speaker 3: One person said, hopefully this will be a funny story

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Speaker 3: one day. Remember the Thanksgiving where your parents didn't know

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Speaker 3: who Rose was? And I don't know if I could

730
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Speaker 3: ever get there. Though I love him, I thought he

731
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: was my person. Then I don't want to throw it

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00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: all away, but I need space. If we move forward

733
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: with the relationship, we will absolutely be going to counseling.

734
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: Probably a good idea. I told him. Even if we

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00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: break up and I don't go, he needs to enter

736
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 3: therapy for his conflict avoidance. He didn't disagree. He also

737
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: called my parents and rose to apologize. They were civil,

738
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Speaker 3: but I know they are not happy. Beyonce's parents, however,

739
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: have invited them out to a do over dinner before

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Speaker 3: they head back to the West Coast, and with my blessing,

741
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 3: they're going, it'll be nice if they can be friends

742
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: after all this. And that's where we are. Everything is

743
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: so fresh and I still don't know what I want yet.

744
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: I'm going to take the holidays to reset and rethink

745
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: about a lot. Thanks for all the advice, And that

746
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: is the end of that story. Crazy Okay, Yeah, take

747
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: your time, take your time to think, go bout whether

748
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: you want to be with that guy because he lied

749
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: to you for two and a half years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: The more I'm thinking about it, the more I'm like, man,

752
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: the duration. Yeah, if it was like six months, I'd

753
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: be like, Okay, maybe I.

754
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: Can understand it. Just getting away from you. Oh I

755
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: I totally told him and it's like he meant to

756
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: that much kind of thing, and he did it that

757
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: month eventually, But it's like two and a half years

758
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 2: of that.

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00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 3: You had so many opportunities to rip the band aid

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00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 3: and just tell your.

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00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: Parents wasn't planning on it. If he if he ended

762
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: up with oh, that's just her Anna, he wasn't planning

763
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: to tell him ever.

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00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you had to You had to know

765
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,959
Speaker 3: the days on that were numbered, my guy.

766
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yikes.

767
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: But but that is the end of that. We have

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Speaker 3: another story coming up.

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Speaker 2: I cut off my mother over my son's safety.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a good reason.

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Speaker 2: This comes directly from the Okay Storytime sub reddit, and

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Speaker 2: we also have a trigger warning for substances. Hi'all. I'm

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Speaker 2: new to your podcast, but listening makes me want to

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Speaker 2: post this. Whoo nice. All right, well here we are,

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Speaker 2: uh twenty five female cut off contact with my mom

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Speaker 2: forty eight female. Let's wind it back to the two

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Speaker 2: thousands when I was growing up.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of that honeycomb thing. That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's the two thousands, babe.

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Speaker 5: I really like the air.

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Speaker 4: I got a suptateing in two thousands. Bibe all the

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Speaker 4: commercials back then.

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Speaker 2: We're really two thousands.

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Speaker 3: There's two thousands, babe, Wake up as the two thousands.

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Speaker 2: Wake up. It's two thousands, babe, Wake up.

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Speaker 3: The honeycomb ads back on. I'm afraid babe, wake up.

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Speaker 2: Your show's on babe, Wake up, babe, wake up. We

788
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Speaker 2: have a story. Let's say. No.

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Speaker 4: You want something to say, you got something done, you

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00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 4: got another one, you got something on, something on your brain,

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Speaker 4: something tickling your mouth.

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Speaker 3: I have nothing to say.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what you want to say something? Look at it.

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Speaker 1: It is mustache.

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Speaker 5: That's two kappa bars kiss.

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Speaker 3: I have nothing to say.

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Speaker 5: All right, I do.

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Speaker 2: Let's wind it back to the two thousands. When I

799
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: was growing up. My mom treated me and my siblings badly.

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Speaker 2: She also did prescription substances and booze for as long

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Speaker 2: as I can remember. By the way, this comes from

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Speaker 2: Walrus Infinite thirty five seventy five. And if you want

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Speaker 2: to submit your own stories, go to the r slash

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Speaker 2: Okay storytime Supreddit. I'm Carly' what was that? I'm key

805
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: on and we're here to give good advice goofully. But

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00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: we don't have all the answers. We only know what

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00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 2: we would do, So let us say what you would

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00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: do in the comments. In twenty nineteen, I had a son. Now,

809
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 2: from the beginning, I was really skeptical about my mom

810
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: looking after my son. Over the years, I let her

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00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: have of him overnight, maybe three or four times. Each

812
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: time he came back with nappy rashes, lie sick. Because

813
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: my mom never sticks to our son's dietary requirements. I

814
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: confronted her a couple of times, and she always excused

815
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: it or belittled me as a parent, or even made

816
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: me question myself. Two months ago, I was going to

817
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: a festival and my childcare dropped out last second, literally

818
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: three days before. So I asked my mom. Begrudgingly, she agreed.

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00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 2: Happy days. So the next day I get a message,

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Speaker 2: is it okay to leave son with a family member

821
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: while I work? By the way, the family member is

822
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: freshly eighteen and has autism himself. I know him inside

823
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: and out, and he told me he didn't like it

824
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 2: when my mom dropped childcare on him because he wasn't

825
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: comfortable attending to the needs of the child nonverbal explained later.

826
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Speaker 2: I wasn't happy because she should have just said no

827
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: if she wasn't even going to be in the house.

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Speaker 2: I said this, but she said, I'll be back at

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Speaker 2: four pm. He'll be okay. Fine. The next day I

830
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: get another message, ken, son, stay with a family member

831
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: in the evening while we take your brother to swimming.

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00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: Just for context, my brother is nine, he's nonverbal, severely autistic.

833
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: So what she's saying is she wants someone to take

834
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: him in the morning till four pm, then stay there

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Speaker 2: into the evening until after the swimming session was done.

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Speaker 2: I was not happy at all, because, again, why agree

837
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: if you've got plans? I get Maybe she would have

838
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: felt bad saying no because I was going to event,

839
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: or because she doesn't see him a lot. She just

840
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: said yes without thinking logically. But I'm a big girl.

841
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: Just tell me the truth. There was back and forth,

842
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 2: and I voiced the fact that the family member didn't

843
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: appreciate being a babysitter on command. She didn't agree, and

844
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 2: even got her boyfriend to message me defending the family member,

845
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: when the family member was the one who said this

846
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: to me in the first place. Anyway, in the end,

847
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: I just said, forget it all, make other arrangements.

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00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 3: It is true that you can't, like just you can't

849
00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 3: lie about being available for something for someone because you

850
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: don't want to upset them that you're not available, because

851
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: then you make the entire thing worse.

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00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: You're still not available at some point, right like.

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00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: You're just delaying the negative reaction. And now it's gonna

854
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: be amplified because they thought they were relying on you

855
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 3: this whole time. Yeah, so you've messed everything up.

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00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

857
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: Also, I'm sure three days is very slim to get childcare.

858
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 3: But like for like at like a child with specialized needs.

859
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true too. I'm like anyone besides your mind,

860
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: he's coming back with lice every time.

861
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, why is there so much lice in that?

862
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: I mean, she just like has lice. She's not taken

863
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 2: care of. She's just like living with lice in her head.

864
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: Maybe they talk to her, they give her I speak

865
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Speaker 3: to me and they tell me doc secrets.

866
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Speaker 2: Do they make the fart noises for her.

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Speaker 3: And they go bo.

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Speaker 2: She's just hearing that in her ears the whole day. Funny.

869
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: But they're like really high pitched because they're tiny little lice. Wait,

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Speaker 2: actually I liked that. Yes, more like that, like a

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Speaker 2: little squeak screams like a squeak on they're just screaming.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's John here. We're gonna get back to the stories.

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Speaker 1: Put a quick three minute ad break from our sponsors

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Speaker 1: that keep the show going.

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Speaker 2: Now a bit more context. For the last two years,

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Speaker 2: my mom has been helping me financially and giving me

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Speaker 2: fifty years.

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Speaker 3: I believe it.

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Speaker 2: I really need to remember which one was pounds. My

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Speaker 2: mom has been helping me financially and giving me fifty

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Speaker 2: pounds every other week so I could give food and

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Speaker 2: whatever we need. This is because in the UK the

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Speaker 2: cost of a living crisis is in full force. I

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Speaker 2: can barely afford to eat with this money. Mom comes

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Speaker 2: back and says, forget your money again. Really pissed off

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Speaker 2: about this because why use that as a threat when

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Speaker 2: it's basically a lifeline for us at the moment. It

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Speaker 2: cut deep, admittedly, so I just blocked her. There's just

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Speaker 2: a little bit left.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I see comments being like, well three

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Speaker 3: days is enough time. But also it's like they might

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Speaker 3: have had the resources to do it and you know,

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Speaker 3: to pay for like a you know, urgent specialized yeah care.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, looking into that for future stuff when Kara jumps

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Speaker 2: out really last minute, like having that backup going forward,

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Speaker 2: so it's not like your son is having to go

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Speaker 2: here to this crazy situation where she's lying about her availability.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's also a life's factory. Yeah yeah, let's

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Speaker 3: not go to the life factory anymore.

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Speaker 2: Not they bring him to the life factory and they're like,

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Speaker 2: how'd you get this on your head?

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Speaker 3: Oh? It was the factory floor. You were off your

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Speaker 3: factory floor. Yeah. I don't really know what to say

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Speaker 3: in terms of what to do.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, Whitney Anderson says, if you block us, we date

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Speaker 2: your mom and dad.

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Speaker 3: Yes, tell him that. Tell him that you'll date their

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Speaker 3: mom and dad. So happy you're home. Brother.

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Speaker 2: Kim Roberts says, three days, There's plenty of time. Also,

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Speaker 2: you're the parent, suck it up, you don't go. That's

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Speaker 2: how it works. If you can barely afford to eat,

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Speaker 2: How are you paying for a multi day festival?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean sometimes the stuff kids like, it's in

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Speaker 3: the way, you know, it's a fair point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, since then, multiple family members have told me

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Speaker 2: I'm the that I'm acting like a child. Now. That's

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Speaker 2: why I'm writing to you, guys, am I'm the a

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Speaker 2: hole because in the moment it felt like the right

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Speaker 2: thing to do, but the amount of people telling me

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Speaker 2: the opposite has me conflicted. All I want to do

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Speaker 2: is the best for my son and for my own

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Speaker 2: mental well being. Am I even doing that right? As

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Speaker 2: I said at the beginning, she is still using prescription

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Speaker 2: substances unsure on the booze, but I hear it's still

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Speaker 2: a nightly occurrence. From my point of view, this was

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Speaker 2: the final straw. I've cut contact and I don't want

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Speaker 2: to speak to her. I'm in therapy for my childhood

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Speaker 2: trauma and now maybe I will be able to heal.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for reading or.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't say you're the a whole. It's not

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Speaker 3: a great environment for your child to be in. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's unpredictable and he always gets Lye.

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Speaker 2: Being able to say he always gets liice is crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a untenable situation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and Opie is one of us, so oki yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got. I think no contact with your with

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Speaker 2: your life's having mothers is a group call.

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Speaker 3: Stay in contact with the lice though, so you can

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Speaker 3: get their secrets, so you can learn their dark secrets

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Speaker 3: and their spells. They've got lots of cool spells of

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Speaker 3: the lice. They didn't have no money, Wizard gang, and

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Speaker 3: that means that's the end of this episode. So if

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Speaker 3: you love us, make sure you subscribe We love you

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Speaker 3: and see it tomorrow.