WEBVTT - 04/14/2021 - Hour 2 - Irving vs Schroder 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.600 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:07.800 Sports Radio. Good morning, everybody. Welcome into the show. The 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:12.640 fill ins, the replacements, the scabs, we're here. We're Dan 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.800 Patrick and the Dan Nets. Yeah they're taking the day off. 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:19.120 I'm LaVar Arrington, t J. Hushman's out of Plexico Birds, 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:21.840 otherwise known as the up On Game Crew. We're taking 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:25.280 over right now and we're filling in. So you guys, 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.240 you know Dan and Dan. That's y'all. Y'all enjoy yourselves today, 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:30.520 you know, do some gardening, you know, mow your lawn. 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:32.760 That's like the new trend going on right now. We're 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:35.319 we're gonna go ahead and handle this thing. 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We we tackled some 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:13.160 Hall of Fame debates about Julian Edelman, and we kind 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:17.120 of had some interesting conversation about that. Now we're in 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.600 the second hour, and I want to switch gears on 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:21.280 y'all and I want to see where y'all are at 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:26.480 on this one. And we were getting text messages the 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:32.600 entire time when the Lakers were downing the Brooklyn Nets 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:37.679 from one Homer and big fan um t J Hushman's 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.480 out up. Let me preface this everyone out there that 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:45.080 he is a big time h LA Lakers fan. So 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.000 h with that being said, he may not be able 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.520 to give us a clear U very very um you know, 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:53.800 good take on this, but we're gonna still take a 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:59.919 chance on it. So we had the situation where didn't 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.560 Shrewder and Kyrie Irving get tangled up at the end 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:07.400 of the game up, you know, clearly the Brooklyn Nets 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:12.960 are going to lose. And was he salty? Was Kyrie 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:19.280 salty or was he well intended? When the exchange between 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:23.560 them turned into a situation. Here's Dennis Shrewder's take on 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.360 the situation and then I'll introduce the rest of the 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.280 topic after this. I didn't know at first that we 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.919 got double technicals when he came up to me. That's 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.800 the first thing. But after that, I asked him. I 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.920 kept asking him what he is talking about, and he 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.400 kept talking, kept talking. Then he got kicked out or 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:44.280 got the second technical, and I just, I mean, I said, bye, 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:47.919 you know, probably I don't even know if I raised him. 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:52.079 I don't, I probably did. And then she said, you're 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.600 going to because he raped that up. And I didn't 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:56.840 even know I got the you know, first technical with 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.160 him when he came up to me. But it happened. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.680 I can't take it back. Let's just turn them move 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:10.000 forward now, Okay. This comes after the the reports that 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:14.440 Dennis Shrewder used the inn word while speaking to Kyrie Irving, 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:19.720 which in turn inflamed Kyrie. Kyrie sang and I quote 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:24.160 the in word is a derogatory racial slur, Irving wrote 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.520 on his Twitter after the game. He explained that the 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.880 word will never be a term of endearment. Never forget, 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:34.160 it's foul and it's true history. Throw the inn word 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:38.520 out the window right alongside all of those other racist 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:42.680 words used to describe my people. He added, we are 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:48.120 not slaves or ends. So and this, and listen, I 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.520 watched the video. I don't know if y'all seen the video. 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:56.120 He definitely says it. He definitely said it. And and 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.720 you know, I'm a good lip reader, and I saw 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:01.560 that that. You know, if you if you put it 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.080 in slow motion and you run it back, you definitely 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.000 can make out that he used the word in the 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.560 change slow motion. Brother, you got to do your homework, 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:12.480 make sure you can come on the radio and speak 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.600 confidently about it. And I end up getting no defamation 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.960 of character calls from any lawyers or anything like that. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.919 But what y'all's take on this, man, because this is 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.960 one of those This is one of those slippery slope 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:31.320 debates for a lot of different reasons. For the rap industry, 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:36.120 for the you know, the music industry in general, you know, 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:42.279 for certain you know, genres of music, uh, movies and entertainment, 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:49.320 regular everyday life. That word is now and this is 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.279 crazy to think, but that word now, it has even 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:57.919 become larger than just the specific race of people using 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:02.480 the word. What what say you to this approach? That 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.880 was this more of Kyrie being upset that they lost 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:10.240 to the Lakers, and and he turned that into parlaying 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:15.240 it into a bigger topic or was there some was 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:17.600 there something there where you say, you know what, this 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.120 is something that really needs to be paid attention to. 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.760 There are a lot of social unrest going on right now. 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.800 There's a lot of things taking place in terms of uh, 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:33.200 you know, the mistreatment of racial groups. And obviously when 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:36.919 you think about that word, that's connected to a lot 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.599 of the struggles and and the fights that are taking 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:44.680 place right now for for equality and and and different 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:48.440 things that are are out there. What's your take on this? 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.360 I mean, I mean, for me, when the game was 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:56.240 wasn't decided when Kyrie uh and he when him and 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.960 Shooter when they got into it, it was actually a 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.039 competitive game. The game could have gone either way. It 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.120 was when Kyrie and Shrewder got kicked out, the Lakers 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:05.760 kind of went on a big run and took over 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:11.279 the game. That word and the black community has become 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.400 a term in endearment for a lot of us. And 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.560 I'll be the first one to admit I say the word, 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.839 and I actually said often and I don't even think 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:23.640 about it. It just comes out. It's like it just 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:27.680 I speak it freely, And if Kyrie feels that way 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:31.400 about it, I respect that. I have no problem with 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:35.039 someone not wanting to be called a word that he 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:40.280 feels is derogatory. That's his preference. If I was a 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.520 friend of his, I would try to refrain from using 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:47.320 it around him. If we are friends, Kyrie has to 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:52.120 also understand because he's been enlightened and he doesn't use 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:56.200 that word. I'm sure he wants used that word. And 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.919 for us, and when I say us, I mean us 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:03.520 black men and just women, and just the black culture period, 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:08.240 we use that word as a term of endearment, and 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:12.800 so I get where Kyrie Iren is coming from. He 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.880 doesn't like that word to be used around him anymore, 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.760 and it will be very tough, in my opinion, to 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.360 get our culture to stop using that word, because we 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:27.040 turned something that was once a derogatory statement into a 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:31.160 term of endearment. And I don't know if you two 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:35.840 use it, but again, do you know you know I 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.360 use it and it almost as much as you do. 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:43.800 And for me it's it's all love. But I can 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.440 respect where Kyrie is coming from. The thing that I 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:51.000 don't get what Kyrie is. You played twenty games last year. 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:54.040 You didn't play in a bubble. You didn't want people 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.720 to play in the bubble. You get kicked out of 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:58.880 the game, and then you don't play the next game. 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.520 Be there for your teammates. They need you on the court. 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:05.760 They care more about you being on the court. If 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.880 you want to be a socialist and impact your community, 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:14.320 that's great, but your teammates need you. You should have 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.360 played the next game. If you're physically able to play. 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:21.400 You're an athlete. You get paid to play basketball games. 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:27.640 Play basketball games. With all that being said, you know 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.480 the vast statium that we know that through to you 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.480 know definitely you know use the N word, and it's 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.960 a word that you know we use, and you know 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.200 I use. I wish we could say it, I really do. 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:41.760 I hate that we got to say N word, but 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:47.880 go ahead, But I really didn't understand why the referee 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.800 got in between these two guys and kick them out 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:57.400 for having a heated conversation basically, so to speak. You 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:02.520 know clearly the NBA is in the early eighties and 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:06.400 late eighties nineties, because you know, a lot of those 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.040 things were going on, and it would just looked at 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:14.160 as normal, so to speak. So for the referee to 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.560 kick both of those guys out of the game for 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.640 I guess Shooter using the N word and them having 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:27.480 a confrontation. I've never witnessed a referee eject two guys 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:31.520 from a from a basketball game if the interaction or 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:36.160 the words between the player between the referee so like 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:40.040 there was no physical contact but between the two. So 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.679 he just should have gave him the technical, you know, 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.880 the first technical and kept it moving. But why he 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.760 got involved with those two guys in the in the 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:52.840 verbiage that was spit out between the two and he 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:58.640 had no interaction or it wasn't directed towards him, that 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:02.080 he thought that it was derogatory enough to kick those guys, 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:03.599 the guys out of the game for having a u 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:05.920 the conversation that that's just something that that that I 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.800 won't understand. And and it was the first time that 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.080 both of those guys have ever been ejected from a 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:17.200 basketball game. So not not saying that you know they 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.480 you know, they have an image that is, you know, 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.640 clean or whatever the case may be. But you know, 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.560 as long as I've known, uh, you know, Schroder and 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.440 and Kylerie irving on the court. All they really do 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.160 is just go out and play basketball when they when 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:36.520 they're available, and and and go out and compete and 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.240 do it at a high level. So I didn't understand 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.040 why the Revere kick those guys out. You know. Secondly, 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.120 you know, there's a lot of things going on, you 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.680 know in this world. You know, as we see and 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:50.680 and and certain people, you know during this time, you know, 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:55.120 everybody is a little sensitive to us being thrown at them. 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.559 You know what, it doesn't matter you know, what color 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.240 you are, where you come from, or it's there's a 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.160 lot of different things going on in this world that 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:07.480 that that that people are more sensitive to with everything 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.640 that's going on. You know, Kyrie's right, you know, Shrewder 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.240 was wrong or whatever the case may be. But just 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.040 like you know TJ said, if he wants to go 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.200 out and you know, and you know, you know, get 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.800 into the communities and socialism and all those things, that 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:23.560 that's his deal. But as far as when it comes 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.720 to playing basketball into you know the commented, you know, 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:32.400 in that context, you know, you know, Kyrie Irv is 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:36.520 from New Jersey, you know, Irvington right down the street, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.080 which is a predominantly you know, black community, So I'm 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.880 pretty sure that he has heard this word or used 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.600 it a few times himself. I'm just I'm just saying 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:49.960 so it doesn't make it right or wrong. But you know, 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:54.000 I looking back at it, you know, I don't think 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.959 the referee should have got in between those guys and 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:01.040 objected them for just you know, a word that I 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.400 guess the referee thought it was the rugatory to him, 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.760 you know, and he those guys out of the game. 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.320 So it just never should have happened at the end 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:14.400 of the day. My my take on it. First off, 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.719 I can always remember the first time I really got 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.160 acclimated to the word and the reason why I just 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.360 so it's not misconstrue when I said I wish we 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.000 could say the word. Um. The reason why I say 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:28.360 that is is because now saying in word really really 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:32.840 makes it into you know, like a taboo situation. Right. 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.640 So it's it's like I literally use the word and 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.560 then I got acclimated to it through Tupac. I mean, 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.320 I'm just be honest with you. When I heard him 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.600 say never ignorant getting getting gold to accomplish, I thought 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.240 that was pretty dope. Um, I love Tupac's music. I 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:52.400 subscribed to his messaging and and how he you know, 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:58.480 how he flowed, and I kind of got acclimated into, um, 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.760 what that represented. Now. Have I always used a word 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:06.959 with the idea of term it of endearment or or 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:11.120 you know, the empowerment of taking a negative word and 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:15.560 using it positively and spending it. No, I'd be lying. 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:19.760 I'd be disingenuous if I was saying that it just 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:23.199 became a habit. It's a it's a word that is 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:28.640 almost like saying, you know, homye, buddy, my guy. Whatever 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.640 it may be, it's it's a part of it became 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.440 a part of my language. And I got a pretty 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:37.760 good vocabulary, so it's not as though I'm ignorant. But 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:43.240 I can understand when the conversation turns into this is 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:47.760 a conversation I heard enlightened. It can turn into a 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:53.120 conversation of enlightenment versus ignorance. And I'm not necessarily sure 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.760 that that's really the road to go down on this, 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.320 you know, to be honest with you, during the course 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:02.200 of that game, there's probably ten different words that that 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.880 Kyrie could have said, don't use that word. It's a 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:10.319 derogatory term. And and it could have been a female dog. 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:16.120 It could have been a mother sucker, it could have 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:19.360 been you know what, it could have been a lot 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:23.600 of different terms that I'm sure within the parameters of 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:27.240 what took place in the game that there were derogatory 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:31.239 terms that were taking place during the trash talk exchanges 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:35.800 between players. So, for first off, I would I would 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.200 ultimately jump out there and say that in the in 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:44.320 the I guess the parameters of of competing in a game, 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:49.960 trash talk has always been a part of sport. And 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:51.640 and I'll be the first one to tell you if 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.480 I could say something to you that is going to 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:58.040 get you off of your game, Like like if if 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.040 I knew if I was playing right now and this 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:04.760 took place, and I knew I had him on my schedule, 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.560 do you understand what I would do to him if 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.520 we were on the field together. Every time I tackle him, 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.920 every time I hit him, do you understand what I'm 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:16.480 doing to him? Because to me playing the game and 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.960 being a part of competition, people say, oh, well that's 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.120 not good sportsmanship, and this done and the other and 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.440 to die. I don't care if you think it's good 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:27.280 sportsmanship or if it fits into your parameters of what's 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:32.000 morally sound and morally correct. I'm trying to get I'm 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.800 trying to get ahead. I'm trying to get an advantage. 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.320 And if I can get a mental emotional advantage if 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.160 you're not physical, but if I can get all of 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:47.360 those boxes checked off, physical advantage, mental advantage, emotional advantage, 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.120 if I could take you out of your game, I'm 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.320 gonna take you out of your game, and you just 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.400 have to be prepared to deal with that. So you 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.560 know there, I think that the dangerous part of what 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:01.680 Kyrie Irving did here, not he's right or wrong. I 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.920 mean you certainly you know, with everything that's going on, 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.520 you want to raise the awareness because of all of 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:11.400 the hate that is circulating in our world. But I 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.400 also would urge to say, when you sit there and 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.600 you try to do it in the context of painting 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:20.920 shrewder in a way like he's this ignorant dude that 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.920 shouldn't use those that word around him, and people should 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:27.320 pay attention to throw that word out and don't use 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.840 it anymore, and this, that, and the other. You're within 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:35.160 the parameters of competitive sport and you're all adults. So 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.440 to me, you have to look at it from the 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.880 perspective of how you're presenting your argument and presenting what 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.560 it is that that you have going on. If if 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:48.840 it's social activism, active activists work that you're doing, which 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.520 he has been a part of that, I get that. 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:53.680 I get that you want to continue to move your 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:58.800 agenda and keep things moving that way, and if you're 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.640 using that as a platform for change, I get that. 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.760 But I look at Shrewder and I'm like, well, don't 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.439 paint this kid into us or this guy into a 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.640 situation where you're making him out to be some type 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:14.040 of villain when he's you know, kind of he's competing. 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.679 You're gonna say things and do things. The person that 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:18.920 I was on the football field was not the person 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:22.000 I was walking around as an everyday person. The things 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.760 I say and doing how I say and do them 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:28.320 are very, very vastly different than how I am when 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:32.119 I was on the competitive field or court or whatever 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.840 it may be. So I felt like that it was 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:39.280 kind of it makes sense what Kyrie is saying, And 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.760 I do believe in the grand scheme of things. The 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.080 more you understand that you in a lot of ways 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:49.240 perpetuate how some people view us and fill us. You know, 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:53.359 I've heard a lot of people justify calling people the 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:57.080 end word with the hard er at the end versus 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:01.639 the GA right and and and said, well, you guys 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.560 call yourself, you each other, that you use it, why 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.920 can't I use it? You know, there is a lot 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:10.680 of things that can be interpreted, um from the word. 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.159 There are a lot of meanings connected to the word. 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:17.840 But in this in this instance, in this particular one guys, 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:20.600 I kind of felt like, you know, I don't know, 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:24.560 Kyrie Irving. You can you can say that upset you, 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:26.960 and you could say that, you know, Shrewder shouldn't use it. 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:30.280 But I almost felt like, maybe that's that's one of 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:33.720 those conversations that you have with Shrewder, And I don't 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:37.119 know that you turn that into the biggest public spectacle 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.560 um based upon you know, the situation. But that's just 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:44.400 one man's opinion. You're listening to the Dan Patrick Show. 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.639 I'm LaVar Arrington, that's t J. Hushman's out of Plexico Burrst. 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.840 We all have opinions, um, but you know, it is 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.960 what it is. We're gonna keep we're gonna stay with basketball. 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.439 I got a fun little, uh little little question for 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.800 you guys on the other side of the break. It's 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:03.000 a pick pick between the two guys type of conversation 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.840 and it has to do out in the West. Yeah. 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.920 So it's Fox Sports Radio. Make sure you stay tuned 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:11.760 because you know we're gonna come back and we're gonna 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:13.800 have a little debate and I think you guys will 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.359 enjoy it. Stay tuned. Thanks for listening to The Dan 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.240 Patrick Show podcast. 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Who you gonna with, who you're gonna 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:52.800 build around? Flaques. I'll let you go first, mister man. 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:55.159 This this Ray here's a tough one for me because 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:57.119 you know, just last week we was having this great, 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:01.440 this great conversation about Donovan Mitchell and I called him 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:04.120 a tarantula, you know, running up and down the basketball court. 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:06.520 That's what he you know, he kind of reminds me 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:10.520 of in his playing style. But you know, I've said this, 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.680 you know when when Donovan Mitchell was coming out of college, 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:17.359 you know, Rick Patino told all the scouts and the 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:21.440 owners that he was arguably the best point guard that 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.040 he had ever coached. And you know, nobody really paid 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:27.720 attention to him. So did you look at Donovan Mitchell 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:33.920 and you look at Devin Booker? And when when when 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:37.080 they told me that Devin Booker had went to Kentucky. 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.000 I didn't even know that he went into Kentucky because 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:43.440 he was never spoke about because he played with card 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:47.400 Off any Towns, Willie Carlistein and the Harrison Twins, Andrew 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:51.320 and Aaron, so Booker was overlooked. Nobody was talking about 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:55.199 Devin Booker. But so you know, I didn't even know 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:57.800 he was at Kentucky until he did say when he 0:21:57.880 --> 0:21:59.760 was coming out though he's gonna be the best player 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:02.640 in the draft. I remember him. He did say that, Yes, 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:06.200 but I didn't even know that he went into Kentucky 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:09.520 because he played with such a great other four that 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:11.960 you know, he was never really you know, a star 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:18.000 or was mentioned. But if I'm a GM knowing what 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:20.480 I know now, and I love me from Donovan Mitchell, man, 0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:22.240 y'll y'all know how I feel about him. I think 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:24.920 he has the whole entire skill set of becoming the 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:29.560 next great star and point guard in the NBA. But 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:33.360 if you're talking about building a franchise and somebody being 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:36.760 a cornerstone of your organization, I'm gonna have to go 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:40.240 with Devin Booker because the more and more I watched 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:44.480 this young man play, you know, he's a more athletic 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:47.600 Reggie Miller. You know he's gonna run you off for 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:50.560 screens and you're gonna have to know where he is 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:53.560 at on the basketball court at all times. And then 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:55.800 when he pulls that jump shot, man, it's so pure, 0:22:56.720 --> 0:23:01.760 not pure per it's purer and man, I watched him 0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:05.080 last night and you know when he pulls up fifteen 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:07.400 to eighteen foot this man, the ball doesn't even touch 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.920 the rim. And he you can put him on any 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:14.920 basketball team in the NBA, and I honestly to believe 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:18.680 that he would have the same impact on any basketball 0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:20.919 team that you put him on, because he just has 0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:25.159 a universal basketball game that you can plug him into anywhere. 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:30.120 And with the addition of Chris Paul coming in which 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:32.440 t J thinks that Chris Paul is still one of 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:36.360 the top five point guards in basketball, I disagree, but 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:43.480 he Devin Booker is shining more and I heard Charles 0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:46.600 Buckler say this the other night, there's a there's a 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:50.639