1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Figure, we'll bring out the craziest stat of the week 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: right before we talk to Tim kirkchen who We'll be 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: back with the TV crowd here in two minutes and 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: we'll talk Little League World Classic or Little League Baseball 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Classic coming up on ESPN on Sunday. But the Twins 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: are forty four and one twenty five against the Yankees 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: since two thousand and two. Aja, your boys got smacked again. 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: You're og franchise can't really handle the Yanks. They're getting 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: them hot. 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: They are I don't know what to say. 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: This is one of the most unbelievable stats of all times. 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 3: Just players, turnover, managers turnover, front offices have turned well, 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: I guess the Yankees have stayed the same with the 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: front offices of the Twins have turned over, and they've 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: changed stadiums. Both organizations have got new stadiums in this 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: time and nothing has changed the Yankees. Yeah, the Yankees 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: beat the Twins. So that's it. The Yankees beat the Twins. 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 4: The pole AADs haven't taken one at bat. The pole 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 4: AADs haven't taken one at bat. This is an anomaly 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 4: that we get to look at. But shocker AJ is 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 4: involved with another team that has a brutal record forty 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 4: one and forty one and one twenty one white sox 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 4: AJ's team forty four and one five Twins. 24 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: Had nothing, had nothing to do with either one of 25 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: those things. Just saying, That's what I'm saying. 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 4: Once you leave, they all suck. So stop leaving, stop quitting, 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: stay with the team, help them out. 28 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: One time, have grossed me. I didn't want to leave 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 3: the Twins. I was traded traded away. Still they got 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: you know what they got from Mick, Mick abel and tight, 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: so go able and tight. See what they turn those 32 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: guys into. 33 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: So their record against the Yankees produces a two sixty 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: winning percentage two thousand and two including playoffs, and that 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: includes nine straight losses against all other teams. Since two 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: thousand and two, the Twins have a five fourteen winning percentage. 37 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: What it's not like we're looking at this team like, oh, 38 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: it's one of the worst teams ever. This franchise been 39 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: a joke for twenty years. Like, no, they consistently, we'll 40 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: we'll hang around, not against the Yankees. We'll ask Tim 41 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: about it. 42 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: I'm suressing in the playoffs. Look at the just use 43 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: the record in the playoffs, use the playoff record, it's 44 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: even worse. 45 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: Sorry, Twins fans, I know today's tough, but we cover 46 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 1: the news. Legendary Tim Kirkton joining us right now. He'll 47 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: be part of ESPN's Baseball Night coverage live on site 48 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: from Williamsport this Sunday for the Little League Classic. 49 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 5: Excited to get into that real quick before we do. Tim. 50 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 5: Great to see you, Great to have you on. 51 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: Did you hear our conversation at all about that ridiculous 52 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: Twins record since two thousand and two. 53 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 5: I'm sure you've been following that one. 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's absurd. I can't understand it. I was driving 55 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: home last night from New York listening to the Yankees 56 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: Twins game, and Paul Molitor was doing the color and 57 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: he made kind of the same point that Aj did. 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: That Look, this doesn't make any sense, he goes. The 59 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: players aren't even aware of it. The Yankee players aren't 60 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: aware of it. But it just keeps on happening. And 61 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: this is why baseball is so great, and so many 62 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: things are just unexplainable, and this is one of them. 63 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: There's no reason the Twins should be this bad against 64 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: the Yankees and Yankees. This good against the Twins. But 65 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: this is why baseball is so good, is it doesn't 66 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: make any sense so many days of the week. 67 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is wacky, wacky news. 68 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: While we're on them too, what did you think of 69 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: the team announcing that they're going to keep the ownership 70 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: group intact there? I mean, we had been led to 71 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: believe for the past year that it was going to 72 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: be a new leaf for this ball club. Were you 73 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: surprised as I was to see that they're actually hold on. 74 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: I was surprised. I am surprised, but maybe we shouldn't be. 75 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: You know, I live outside of Washington, d C. And 76 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: the Nationals have been up for sale for a long time, 77 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: and then they didn't get the price they wanted and 78 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: pulled the team back and said, Okay, we're not selling 79 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: the team. Ardy Moreno did the same thing with the Angels. 80 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: He's gonna sell the team, and then he decided I'm 81 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: not going to sell the team, and then the poleads 82 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: say we're gonna sell the team, and now we're not 83 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: going to sell the team. It's possible that all of 84 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 2: these owners are recognizing they're not maybe they're not getting 85 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: exactly what they want. For the team and then they're 86 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: going to hang on until, say, the price goes up. 87 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: But maybe this isn't a shock, but it was a 88 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: surprise to me because it seemed pretty pretty understandable that 89 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: they're going to sell the team and now they're just 90 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: looking for investors instead. 91 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 3: Tim, we we just kind of talked about this, We 92 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: talked about this earlier, but Rob Manford came out a 93 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: couple months ago and said, Oh, it's definitely happen. It's 94 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 3: not if they win so and he's like, I know 95 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: more than anybody else did. So something changed behind the scenes, 96 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: because when Rob Manford usually says something like that, it 97 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 3: doesn't go off the rails like kind of this one 98 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: that it normally sticks to exactly what he's saying. 99 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, something must have happened, just like something happened with 100 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: the Nationals and something happen with the Angels. And again, 101 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: these are really sharp businessmen who are used to winning, 102 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: Like every negotiation that they're in, they get the last 103 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: dollar on everything that they do in every business that 104 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: they run. But baseball doesn't often work that way. You 105 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: don't get exactly what you want in baseball. Sometimes you 106 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: have to overpay to get a player. Sometimes you have 107 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: to sell something for less than what you think it's worth. 108 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: But these guys are used to getting whatever they want, 109 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: and if they don't get it, they're pulling the team back. 110 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, maybe that's what's happening. 111 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 5: We have a little breaking news on Hello Fresh. 112 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: We've talked about him for a long time, but this 113 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: summer they have their biggest menu upgrade yet. 114 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 5: Ready for this, Todd Father, talk to me. 115 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: They have doubled their menu doubled Now you can choose 116 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: from one hundred options each week, including new seasonal dishes 117 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: and recipes from around the world. 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Not saying there's relegation, I'm not saying all 140 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 4: that kind of stuff, but do you feel like there 141 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: should be some type of penalty because when you look 142 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: at a team like the pole Ads, I mean an 143 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 4: organization like the pole Ads, they're not setting their players 144 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: up or their city up for having a successful team. 145 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: Well, I would like to see everyone try to win, Eric, 146 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: but it's hard to prove whether you're trying to win 147 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: or not. You know. Thirty years ago, Sandy Alderson, then 148 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: the general manager of the A's I guess at the time, 149 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: said what is a successful franchise? Is it a team 150 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: that makes the playoffs every year or is it a 151 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: team that never makes the playoffs but makes money every year. 152 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: What is the successful franchise a team that loses money 153 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: but wins, or a team that makes money and loses. 154 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: And I think that discussion still has to be had 155 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: today because I think that's still a relevant question. 156 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, invest and then the franchise value will sort We've 157 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: seen that happen. Don't forget fans. The Dodgers were a 158 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: prime example of that. The Dodgers were in a very 159 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: different place fifteen years ago when they were run by 160 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: Frank McCort, and look at them now. They are an 161 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: absolute powerhouse. Tim, I'm going to take us to the 162 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: Little League Classic that's coming up on Sunday on ESPN. 163 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: You've got two great teams too, that are in the 164 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: thick of a playoff race with the Mets and the Mariners. 165 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: But first, give us the goods on what we can 166 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: expect there, what the coverage will be like, how much 167 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: you look forward to this? 168 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: Well, I've covered every one of the Little League Classics 169 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: and they're all great. Trust me, fellas, if you haven't 170 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: been there for when the teams arrive, it's stunning, it's breathtaking. 171 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: As soon as they get off the bus, they are 172 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: just surrounded by kids, and before long, the players are 173 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 2: into it just as much as the kids are because 174 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: they've all watched the Little League World Series when they 175 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: were twelve years old. And the Little League World Series 176 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: is on in every clubhouse in the major leagues every 177 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 2: single day because it fascinates the big leaders, as it should. 178 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: And when these guys walk in, like Aaron I was 179 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: there last year. When Aaron Judge walked in, it was unbelievable. 180 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: He couldn't take a step without being just besieged by people, 181 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: and he did a great job handling it. And all 182 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: players do the best they can. A couple of years ago, 183 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: Bryce Harper was here and he's sitting in the stands 184 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: watching the Pennsylvania team, you know Philadelphia and Pennsylvania, and 185 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: one of these kids from Pennsylvania like hits a rocket 186 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: shot and Bryce Harper is there to see it. So 187 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: at the Little League Classic that night, at the real 188 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: major league ballpark, the kids are all there, like only 189 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: kids are invited to the Little League Classic, another reason 190 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: it worked so well. And Bryce Harper walks past the 191 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 2: front row and the kid that he saw had a 192 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: line drive. Bryce Harper goes up to him on his 193 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: way to home plate in a major league game and says, boy, 194 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: I hope I hit one as hard as you hit 195 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: one today. And it was like the greatest thing that 196 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 2: ever happened to that kid. And then Harper brought him 197 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: an autographed bat and gave it to him as he 198 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: sat in the stands and watched a major league game. 199 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: That's what the Little League Classic is about. To me. 200 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: It's about the kids watching the big leaguers. But it's 201 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: just as important that the big leaguers are engaging with 202 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: the kids. It is a wonderful, wonderful scene. 203 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: They show that often on TVs. There's something that you're 204 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 4: banging the drum about that needs to be shown. That 205 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 4: is your favorite part of this whole weekend, this whole 206 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 4: Little League Classic that we're not seeing on TV because 207 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: you get of background stuff. Is there something that we 208 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: that we that we should be looking out for or 209 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 4: that you're hoping that they show on TV. 210 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: Well, we weren't able to show this a few years ago, 211 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: but now we do see. I ride the bus now 212 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: every year in from the airport with the team with 213 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: the kids on the bus, and now the last year 214 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: was the Tigers and I were sitting on the bus 215 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: with a bunch of kids, and they were asking, of course, 216 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 2: the greatest questions in the world. Because kids are so uninhibited, 217 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: they just say whatever they want to say. It's great. 218 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: But what I wish we had a camera on was 219 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: the first year I went on a bus. We didn't 220 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: have the camera there. But Reese Hoskins of the Phillies, 221 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: who was a star player at the time, like told 222 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: a kid, let me see how good a dancer you are. 223 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: And this twelve year old starts dance while the bus 224 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: is driving, and then he gets into a dance contest 225 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: with Reese Hoskins on the bus. It was absolutely priced 226 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: to see a big leaguer and a twelve year old 227 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 2: having a dance contest on the bus. The twelve year 228 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: old one, as I recall, as most twelve year old 229 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: should against most adults because no adults are good dancers. 230 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: No male can dance in my opinion, but Reyese Hoskins 231 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: was pretty good. The twelve year old was better. 232 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 3: Tim If Rosenthal was on right now, I'd say it's 233 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: because you can. You love this event so much because 234 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 3: Ken could look him in the eye. But I'm not 235 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: going to make a short joke today. So I understand, 236 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna save that for when Ken comes on, because 237 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 3: I know you guys are You're much taller than Ken is, 238 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 3: So I'm going to let that one pass before we go. 239 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 2: I am the same height. I'm the same height as 240 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal. And a few years ago, a very ambitious reporter, 241 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: I mean a researcher at ESPN looked this up that 242 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: fifty two percent of the kids at the Little League 243 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: World Series that year were taller than me. I think 244 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: that was unnecessary research. So one of the kids, one 245 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: of the years, I'll never forget this. This kid's name 246 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: was Terrence. He was from South Carolina. He was legit 247 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 2: five eleven, one hundred and eighty five pounds, and he 248 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: hit a ball three hundred and seventy five feet at 249 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: the Little League World Series. He hit it like one 250 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty feet over the fence. It was unbelievable. 251 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: So I talked to him on live TV like after 252 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: the game, and jokingly I said to Terrence five eleven, 253 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: one eighty five, I said, when was the last time 254 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: you were my size? And he looked at me. He 255 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: thought about it for a second, and he goes, I 256 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: was in the second grade. That's what he said. So 257 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: there's no telling what the kids might say when you 258 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: ask them a question, because that's the best part about 259 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: this is the answers that they give. Would you ask 260 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: him a question? Some of those kids are really funny 261 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: and really clever. 262 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. I love it. So 263 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: that's great, all right. These two teams, the Mariners and 264 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 3: the Mets playing in this game. Mariners run fire a 265 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: great trade deadline. The Mets have been wishy washy to 266 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 3: be nice to what they've done since the trade deadline. 267 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: The Mariners, we keep thinking, have a great chance to 268 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: win the West. Can the Mets make up the ground 269 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: on the Phillies in the East and make a deep 270 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 3: playoff run the way they're assembled? And can the Mariners, Gosh, 271 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 3: I can't believe about to say this actually get to 272 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: the World Series and win it. 273 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: I think the Mariners are good enough to get to 274 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: the World Series and win it, because I'm just not sure, 275 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: even in a stout National League, that there's a team 276 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: out there that you look at and say, this team's 277 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: gonna win the World Series. You know, the Dodgers are 278 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: still the best team for me. Once they get everybody 279 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: healthy and playing the way they should be. But the 280 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: Padres are really good, the Phillies are really good. The 281 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: Brewers are the best team in baseball. The Cubs can 282 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: really hit. But the Mariners have something different now. They 283 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: have a really good starting rotation, which hasn't been great 284 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: this year, and it's eventually is gonna be at its 285 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: best before this year is over. The bullpen is load 286 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: with power arms, but most important, they're one through six 287 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: in the order. This might be the most formidable lineup 288 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: they've had that I've seen from the Mariners in maybe 289 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: twenty five years. So I think they have a chance 290 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: to go to the World Series for the first time. 291 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: And yes, I think they have a chance to win 292 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: it now. Again, you could say that about six, seven, 293 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: eight other teams right now, but to leave the Mariners 294 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: out of the equation would be a mistake. As for 295 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: the Mets, I don't see why they don't score more runs, 296 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: and maybe last night was the start of good offense 297 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: to come. I don't think they're going to run down 298 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: the rundown the Phillies because of the Phillies starting rotation, 299 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: but I think the Mets are going to make the playoffs, 300 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: and if you make the playoffs in today's day and age, 301 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: you have a chance to go a long way. 302 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: Are the Mets a team that will be disappointed to 303 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 4: be a wild card in the sense that they put 304 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 4: all this money into Juan Soto, But at the beginning 305 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 4: of the season they knew they're starting pitching, wasn't they 306 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 4: had Sham and ayah. They were hoping David Peterson was 307 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: awesome and he's been awesome from there. They didn't solidify 308 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 4: a pitching type of player that is equivalent to the 309 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 4: Juan Soto type of position player. 310 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: If they just make the playoffs, I don't think it's 311 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: going to be a big disappointment, because, you know, as 312 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: a wild card, because they played so poorly here, they 313 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: had the best record in baseball in the middle of June, 314 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: and two months later they're struggling to make the playoffs. 315 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: So I think if they're completely honest, they'll just say, 316 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: all right, get us in the playoffs. We'll take our 317 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: chances from there. Now, if you ask them, should we 318 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: have won this division, they'll probably say, well, yeah, but 319 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: we played poorly for two months. That has to end, 320 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: and I think it will. I think they're going to 321 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: score a bunch more runs. And I'm with you, Eric, 322 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: I don't see their starting pitching as being so good 323 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: that they're just going to overtake the Phillies and then 324 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: you know, run the table in October. But they're still 325 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: a dangerous team. Like I said, you get in the 326 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 2: playoffs in October. In baseball anymore, you have a chance. 327 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: Tim, how do you think the first season has gone 328 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: for Juan Soto. I we haven't talked about him as 329 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: much lately, but what would be your evaluation of year 330 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: one of the biggest contract of all time. 331 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 2: Well, he hasn't been the player I thought he would be. 332 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he's been productive. He's hit a bunch of homers, 333 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: a lot of them with nobody on base. He is 334 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: way better than a two point fifty hitter or whatever 335 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: he's hitting right now. It's right around there, and I 336 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: think he's gonna get hot. I just think he's too 337 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 2: good of a hitter to struggle like this. And when 338 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: I say struggle, he should be hitting over three hundred. 339 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 2: He's that good of a hitter. I just think it's 340 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 2: been an adjustment. I think, like it was in San Diego, 341 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: was an adjustment there you know, when he walks in, 342 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 2: there are a bunch of other star players there. I 343 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 2: think it takes him and everyone else a little bit 344 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: time to figure out where everybody's going. Although it didn't 345 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: take much time with the Yankees. He was really good 346 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: right away and all season for them. Same thing hasn't 347 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 2: happened with the Mets. But again, there's six weeks to go, 348 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: and I fully expect him to get really hot and 349 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 2: carry them into the playoffs. I've been saying that all year. 350 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna happen. It just really truly hasn't 351 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: happened yet. 352 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 3: Hey, Tim, I have the Yankees Cardinals this weekend on 353 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: Fox on Saturday. Yankees. What's going on in New York? 354 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 3: We keep saying, don't blame Marin Boon, it's just the 355 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 3: way the roster was assembled. But can this team be 356 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: dangerous if they get into the postseason? Because right now 357 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: they're teetering on the edge, also with the Guardians chasing 358 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 3: them down. Do you think the Yankees can be dangerous 359 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 3: if they get into the postseason? 360 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 2: Yeah? Again, Aj, everyone's dangerous in the postseason because no, no, no, no, 361 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 2: But they're no great teams out there. Do I think 362 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: the Yankees are going to make the playoffs, Yes, barely 363 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: I do. Would I make them the favorite when they 364 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: get to October, Absolutely not. But if you tell me 365 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: that the Tigers are just going to overwhelm people in October, 366 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 2: the answer is no. Neither the Mariners or the Astros, 367 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: or the Rangers or the Blue Jays or anybody else 368 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: with no dominant team. I think the Yankees could be 369 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: dangerous if Aaron Judge is at his best and John 370 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: Carlos Stanton swings the bat like he always does in 371 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: October seemingly, and Anthony Volpi has been hot lately. But 372 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: there's also just as good a chance that the Yankees 373 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: won't even make the playoffs, or they get there and 374 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 2: their bullpen lets him down, or they become the all 375 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: or nothing Yankees who don't seem to be able to 376 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: get a big hit when they need them and still 377 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 2: live and die with a homer and then make two 378 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 2: terrible base running mistakes in one weekend. So they are 379 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: a flawed team. There's no doubt. I'm just saying all 380 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 2: the teams in the American League are flawed. Giving the 381 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: Yankees a chance. 382 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 5: That's right. 383 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: The American League has not looked like he usually does 384 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: really the last couple of years now, at least in 385 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: my opinion. We'll see you know if that changes going forward. 386 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: Awesome to have you on. Thank you for double coverage 387 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: this week on the FT network. You were great on 388 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: Fair Territory the other day, and just want to remind 389 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: everyone on your way out, you're going to be part 390 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: of ESPN's Baseball tonight coverage live onsite from Williams Support. 391 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: We talked about it earlier in this conversation. It sounds awesome. 392 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: It's always super fun. It is must watch seven o'clock 393 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: Eastern Sunday. It's the Mets and the Mariners. Thank you 394 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: so much, Tim. Good to see you all right, boys, 395 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: see it, Thank you, see it. 396 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 5: Thank you. 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Try surf shark today. 415 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what he said. 416 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 5: That's what he said. 417 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 3: That's what he said. 418 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: That's what he said. All right, So we've got more 419 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: on this lawsuit with shohy Otani defending himself against the 420 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: real estate developer and the guy that was going to 421 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: do the sales, and they both got fired and they 422 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: said that Otani's camp intervened. They said it was really 423 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: coming from his representation. But your representation represents who does 424 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: representation represent? 425 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 4: Guys? 426 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 5: Easiest question I'll ever. 427 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 3: Ask a player. Yeah, you personally right. 428 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 1: So if they're doing it, they're speaking for you even 429 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: though it's not him. In BOD, I don't think anybody 430 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: expected Otani on phone calls being like, hey, if you 431 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: don't do what I say, I'm pulling out of this 432 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: real estate deal and getting you fired. But somebody is 433 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: doing that and representing you, and they're accusing this situation 434 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: of happening. So Sam Blum doing the good work for 435 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: the athletic. He spoke to Josh Schiller, head of sports 436 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: and gaming at a law firm that I can't pronounce, 437 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: but they represent the two guys that are going after 438 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: Otani and Nesblelo his representation they Shiller said they tried 439 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: to negotiate a resolution privately, so they tried to settle 440 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: and they were unable to resolve the matter. He also 441 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: said that Bilello became a destructive force by inserting himself 442 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: into every aspect of the relationship. These are all allegations. 443 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: He alleged that they responded to business matters with stonewalling 444 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: and hostility while threatening default if he didn't get his way, 445 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: so I guess not paying for the property as well. 446 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: They still caused you know, a lot of ruck is 447 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: here if they actually did get these two guys fired, 448 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: which is what they are accusing. The defendants of large 449 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: portions of the lawsuit are redacted. The plaintiffs filed a 450 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: subsequent request to lift the redactions from the initial plate. 451 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: That means that the law firm and the developer that 452 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: are suing Otani wanted things to be stated publicly, and 453 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: there's certain information that is at least at the moment, 454 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: being held back. So we'll see what happens. 455 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 5: There and later. 456 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: The lawyer for them also said that he doesn't think 457 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: they have a case for countersuing, and he doesn't think 458 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: they have a case for an NIL breach NIL as 459 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: in name, image likeness, where you know Otani originally signed 460 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: on where they could do certain things with him for 461 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: this real estate project as far as marketing it and saying, hey, 462 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: Otani lives here. But I guess Otani's camp thinks they 463 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: went too far, get ugly. And the thing that stood 464 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: out to me was that they were talking and they 465 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: were I guess working on at least according to the 466 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: plaintiff side, and they didn't figure it out, so it 467 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: starts to make things more public. I guess they could 468 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: have avoided all of this. Now the other side could 469 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: have been asked for a lot of money. They're fighting it, 470 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: but this this is messy. This is not clean. As 471 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: we learn more about what's going on here and aj 472 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: I know we talked about it yesterday, the comments. 473 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 5: Are literally the political spectrum. 474 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: You have one side that wants to accuse Aatwani of 475 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: everything for the last two years. Right, he's in on this, 476 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: He's in on that. I think that's crazy. You have 477 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: the other side that's like, how dare anybody even talk 478 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: about this topic, like you're unfairly targeting him. Well, maybe 479 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: somebody's unfairly targeting him, but we're just covering the story. 480 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: And then most people are in the middle, like this 481 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: is a pretty crappy situation to be involved in, and 482 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: things are gonna, you know, get very public and very ugly. 483 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: If there's a rich history here between the two parties, 484 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: and this real estate project's been going on for ten 485 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: plus years and Otani's been signed on since twenty twenty three, 486 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: so there's going to be some history between these two 487 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: of back and forth that would think you don't want public. 488 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: But if he truly believes that he's the right, he's 489 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: going to fight it. It's just that he's not going 490 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: to be able to maintain a lot of privacy during 491 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: that time period. 492 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: No, you're right, there's a lot of things that could 493 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: come out, and Otani's a very private person. But what 494 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 3: did he sign? What did Otani sign? What did Nesblelo 495 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 3: sign on his behalf? 496 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: Right? 497 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 3: What did What was the agreement they had? You said yesterday, 498 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 3: Scott that there was an uh that I believe you 499 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: said there was a video of Otani talking about this 500 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 3: place and how excited he wherever he was for it. 501 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: So I don't know. He can't say if there's that video, 502 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 3: then he can't say he didn't know anything about it, 503 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: because at some point nes Bolelo had to come to 504 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 3: him and say, hey, we need to make this video for. 505 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 5: This Oh yeah, he knows about it. 506 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 507 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: And the rumors that there's some type of promotional voiceover 508 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: or something like that, right there, there was some type 509 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: of marketing agreement that was made. We'll find out more 510 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: of the details of what that agreement was. I don't 511 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: think any everything's been released yet. But yeah, let's not 512 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: act like someone is signing houses to his name. 513 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 3: No, I know, this whole thing is I'm just fast 514 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 3: by what's going to come out of this because I 515 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 3: don't know, Like I'm not a lawyer. I just play 516 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: one on you and crats get into a fight and 517 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 3: I'm like a divorce lawyer, so I have to play 518 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: that on the show. But other than that, I don't 519 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: know enough about this. But it's going to be fascinating 520 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: once all the details start coming out of this and 521 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: what they are trying to get out of Otani. What 522 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 3: Otani's trying to you know, say he did what nez 523 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 3: Bilolo says he did? What Now the company, of course, 524 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 3: the company that came out said oh, no, everything's fine, 525 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 3: this is a great yeah, because they have how much 526 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 3: money invests two hundred and fifty million, seventeen million dollar homes. 527 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 3: This isn't like it's a you know, it's it's it's 528 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 3: mobile homes and places that are very affordable for the 529 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 3: normal person. This is a place that is you know, 530 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: exclusive as it gets right. So of course the group 531 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 3: that is going to come out and say, oh, everything's perfect, 532 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 3: nothing to see here, nothing to see here, just keep 533 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: on building, right, So of course they're going to say that. 534 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: So what happens next is going to be fascinating. 535 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's going to be a lot more investigative 536 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: work by good journalists like Sam Blum to keep figuring 537 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: things out and krats. The general public's going to be 538 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: interested in this. This is one of the most famous 539 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: human beings on the planet. 540 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 4: Yes, and when you're under a microscope. And I think 541 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 4: part of this not saying it would go away, but 542 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 4: Showhayed very rarely makes himself available to answer any questions. 543 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 4: AJ has said this countless times. AJ has been an 544 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 4: all star. He was a borderline superstar. My word really 545 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 4: doesn't matter, Like I can come out and say something 546 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 4: people don't really care. But when you're a star, people 547 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 4: want to hear what you have to say. If he 548 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 4: would speak more, I think there'd be less people on 549 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 4: the side of Oh, he was definitely involved with the 550 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: epay stuff. He's definitely involved with this. He is this 551 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 4: bad guy. The only reason people are saying that is 552 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 4: because they don't know anything. And everybody on the other 553 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 4: side is like, no, he's perfect. Why is he perfect? 554 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 4: Have you ever heard him say he's perfect? Have you 555 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 4: ever seen him put himself out there in a situation? No, Like, 556 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 4: there's there's a he has a shroud of secrecy that 557 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 4: I think situations like this may be able to be 558 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 4: diffused in the public eye if he were able to, 559 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 4: if he would come out and just. 560 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: Just chatter, just talk with the boys. 561 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll probably get a statement or something. Obviously, it's 562 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: a lawsuit, so right now you're not gonna get much. 563 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: And you know you can be strategic with when you 564 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: put the lawsuit out. You know, it happens to come 565 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: out when the Angels are playing the Dodgers. We're in 566 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: the thick of the baseball season, you know. I mean 567 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: usually have a time period where if you feel like 568 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: there's what I'm doing, you can sue. So that's the 569 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: right of the plaintiff, and then you can defend yourself 570 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: in counter suit. So to be continued. We learned a 571 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: little bit more from Sam Blom getting some quotes. 572 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 5: And I'm sure people are gonna start digging they settle. 573 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like you said, though, people are gonna start 574 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 3: digging are pretty quick, pretty deep into this guy. Because 575 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: there's a lot of money involved in this. 576 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 5: There's a lot redacted. That was the other thing about. 577 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: So if there's a lot redacted, that means most likely 578 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: it's eventually going to come out again unless there is 579 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: a settlement. And sometimes this stuff like starts to eat 580 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: its way to publicity, and then it gets pulled back 581 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: where the other side's like, hey, I don't want to 582 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: deal with this, let's settle. That often is the case 583 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: in lawsuits. But if not, it is going to be 584 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: a to be continued situation. We'll keep covering it. 585 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 5: So anyway, that's step two, day two of the saga.