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Speaker 1: He is Friday, September twenty fourth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,
Speaker 1: Episode number twenty eight. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 1: the Break Clock from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at
Speaker 1: the Star. Nick, you gotta give me a twenty eight,
Speaker 1: but it better be the one I'm thinking about, or
Speaker 1: I'm kicking you off the show. Yeah, there's only one
Speaker 1: twenty eight right, good? Yeah, because he's not hanging on
Speaker 1: the wall. Hell ever, I mean, Arkansas has got a
Speaker 1: big game this week. I'm gonna say, you're talking to
Speaker 1: the wrong guy. I gotta go with a little Felix Jones. Well,
Speaker 1: also a twenty eight. But Darren Woodson's my guy, right,
Speaker 1: That's I love Darren Woodson. He can't be anybody. But
Speaker 1: every anytime we do twenty eight, it's got to be Darren.
Speaker 1: It's Darren Woodson. I'm not gonna say Tyson Thompson. Please
Speaker 1: don't Darryl Worley gets no love. Please don't, okay, please?
Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking we maybe I ought to
Speaker 1: extend this out and we ought to do two, like
Speaker 1: we get Nick to give us one and then Dave
Speaker 1: give us one that's more recent, like because give us
Speaker 1: something within the last decade. Yeah, that's all you got, right?
Speaker 1: That might be a good way to do it. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Um, you have Nick one. He has to
Speaker 1: pick the years he's actually on the team. How about that.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. All right? Go oh y, let
Speaker 1: me give you one right now, I got you one.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go with How about Curtis Stewart. Oh man,
Speaker 1: this is twenty eight. Oh, I'm sorry, nineteen sixty four
Speaker 1: to sixty six. I don't know. Nineteen eighty nineties are
Speaker 1: running back for Oh that's a skit. Eighty nine eighty
Speaker 1: nine it says thoughts never heard of him. Start. I
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna say somebody like Norm Granger. I
Speaker 1: think he played in the eighties sometimes twenty eight I
Speaker 1: think so it would be it would be terrible radio.
Speaker 1: But Nick does have a photographic memory of Cowboyer running
Speaker 1: back nineteen eighty four. All right, but back but back then.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you you feel like, what about week one?
Speaker 1: I'm like week one, Yeah, Nick can't remember the score
Speaker 1: of the Bucks game, but he'll be like, yeah, ninety
Speaker 1: four Philly at the Vet. Yeah, seventeen sixteen or whatever,
Speaker 1: half times wild, Yeah, ninety four, speaking of just to
Speaker 1: go full circle, ninety four at the Vet. That's Darren
Speaker 1: Woodson had a ninety five yard interception return. I believe
Speaker 1: they won thirty thirty one nineteen. What was the what
Speaker 1: was the time in the game when Darren had late
Speaker 1: because it was twenty four nineteen, I believe, and he
Speaker 1: picks off a pass and takes it like ninety four
Speaker 1: yards for a touchdown and they went I must say
Speaker 1: thirty one nineteen nineteen. Yes, and Woody with the huge
Speaker 1: player only touchdown, but that was a big one. That's
Speaker 1: I mean, that's wild. But he does he does not
Speaker 1: remember the score of like any game from last season. Right,
Speaker 1: asking about Week one, twenty twenty one, it's like, yew
Speaker 1: was the Bucks thirty one twenty nine? And I do though, Hey,
Speaker 1: when we were writing about the last week's game with
Speaker 1: Steele and how went full circle? I did. I did
Speaker 1: remember that they won twenty to seventeen, you know, last
Speaker 1: week and lost twenty to seventeen in that game against
Speaker 1: the Rams. So this is a huge full circle game
Speaker 1: for him. Terrence Steele. Yeah, so all right, we got
Speaker 1: a lot of things we're gonna talk about today. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about with the storylines for this game. We
Speaker 1: do that every Friday. I got some story last you
Speaker 1: guys on the offense and defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: But before we get to that, let's catch up on
Speaker 1: some injury updates. We know that there are a few
Speaker 1: guys that are definitely going to be out this game.
Speaker 1: They're too in particulate. I want to get your feedback
Speaker 1: on how you think the Cowboys will handle it. Let's
Speaker 1: start with Carlos Watkins defensive tackle. What do the Cowboys
Speaker 1: do at defensive tackle from your opinion this week? Good question.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's that's been a that's been a low
Speaker 1: key situation since training camp with what happened to Neville.
Speaker 1: You still have Osa, you still have Brent Urban, still
Speaker 1: have Quentin Bohanna. I bet they'll call up Justin Hamilton
Speaker 1: from the practice squad between now on Monday, and that'll
Speaker 1: probably be your four primary. I think the guy that could.
Speaker 1: I hate saying this because he's barely practiced, but at
Speaker 1: some point Chauncey Golston's got a factor into this defensive end.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that kind of can slide down into
Speaker 1: tackle they which they might need him at end because
Speaker 1: Doren's armstrong. God yeah somewhere, yeah, you know, somehow, some
Speaker 1: way I won't be It's funny. Could like last week
Speaker 1: and people have asked me, I get it. People are
Speaker 1: curious and they're like, well, he practiced, where is he?
Speaker 1: It's like that was his first pro practice in pads.
Speaker 1: It was the first time he's put on pads since
Speaker 1: he was at Iowa. So I'm sitting here like, well,
Speaker 1: they're not going to throw him into a pro game
Speaker 1: after two padded practices or sorry, one padded practice, three
Speaker 1: practices overall, like that's insane. But now second week, I'm like,
Speaker 1: might need you, buddy, sorry, Like that grace period was
Speaker 1: one week helped me with with Gholston. I remember whatever
Speaker 1: they listed him at the highlights that we showed were there.
Speaker 1: The was the opposite position. So we don't have the
Speaker 1: rights to college film without paying out the ass for it.
Speaker 1: So sorry, that was two crafts. Yeah, so he was
Speaker 1: an end. He was an end to Iowa, but we
Speaker 1: can get Senior Bowl tape. And he got to the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and was kind of doing mental math. He
Speaker 1: was like a lot of ends here, not very many tackles,
Speaker 1: and he went to the Senior Bowl coaching staff and
Speaker 1: was like, kick me inside if that's where I can
Speaker 1: get on the field. So he played a lot of
Speaker 1: tackle with the Evil. They had him playing some tackle
Speaker 1: at OTA's a lot of people I think, um. I
Speaker 1: think Mike McCarthy said yesterday he was like, Chauncey was
Speaker 1: the young lineman that I was the most excited about
Speaker 1: heading into camp, and then we just didn't get to
Speaker 1: see him. And Osa has kind of taken his place
Speaker 1: as the ex so there's reason to be excited about that.
Speaker 1: He just hasn't had a chance to do much. Didn't
Speaker 1: he also say, And I might be mistaking this, but
Speaker 1: I thought I heard that McCarthy said that he expects
Speaker 1: him to actually be playing this week, right. I don't
Speaker 1: remember him saying that he might have I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he didn't. I don't remember it off the top of
Speaker 1: my head, but that's kind of my point is he
Speaker 1: was healthy. He was fully healthy last week and they
Speaker 1: were like, not yet. But especially with the injuries that
Speaker 1: they're facing, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see
Speaker 1: him up this week and in either one of those
Speaker 1: spots defensive end or defensive tackle. Some utility man get
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, all right, Dorian's armstrong, he's the other guy.
Speaker 1: He's out at defensive end. Obviously, Chauncey Golston may fit
Speaker 1: factor in there. But what else do you think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys will do at defensive end? They do get Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory back this week, is there anything else that you
Speaker 1: think they'll need to do in order to adjust for
Speaker 1: the numbers that they need to defer? Anybody else that
Speaker 1: could rush the passer, somebody that doesn't play the defensive
Speaker 1: end but could rush the passer. I feel like we've
Speaker 1: talked about it. Maybe I think you'll you will see,
Speaker 1: you will see mica A gale mp. I'm just curious
Speaker 1: about the percentages. Is it going to be completely pass
Speaker 1: rusher again or is he going to do a little
Speaker 1: bit of both. Yesterday at practice, they you know, they
Speaker 1: do their individual warm ups, first ten minutes, just getting loose.
Speaker 1: He was with the linebackers, and then he made a
Speaker 1: b line for the pass rushers, and he was there
Speaker 1: for the rest of the time. We were outside. Now
Speaker 1: we don't see them run plays, we don't see any
Speaker 1: of the game plan stuff, so I don't know what
Speaker 1: that means. But he's gonna he's gonna have a role
Speaker 1: on the edge again this week, I guess. Isn't this awesome?
Speaker 1: But like just having him like that is like that
Speaker 1: reminds me of like a high school player, like when
Speaker 1: you're you're at a high school guy and like, oh,
Speaker 1: this guy right here, he's going to Oklahoma or whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, like he's a stud. Like he does this,
Speaker 1: he does that, he does all that, Like you don't
Speaker 1: see that in the NFL. And I get it's only
Speaker 1: two games, but it's just like this is fun, Like
Speaker 1: it's fun to and it's surprising that I know it's
Speaker 1: only been a couple of games, but you do kind
Speaker 1: of go back and look at the draft and go
Speaker 1: who was taking ahead of him, because it just seems
Speaker 1: like this is such a dynamic player. That you why
Speaker 1: wouldn't Why wasn't he taken earlier? And I guess there
Speaker 1: were some off the field issues there were, ye, and
Speaker 1: that's probably that might take him off a few boards.
Speaker 1: And it was just an incredibly offensive heavy draft as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, the first defensive player didn't go off the
Speaker 1: board until eight. You know, offensive tackles, a boatload of
Speaker 1: good wide receivers, and the teams at the top of
Speaker 1: the board needed those things. I think that's a big
Speaker 1: part of it as well. I think, yeah, objectively, just
Speaker 1: in a general draft class, I think he would have
Speaker 1: gone much higher than he did. And we've talked about
Speaker 1: we talked this the other day, Nick, I couldn't think
Speaker 1: of another defensive player in the NFL who was more
Speaker 1: versatilet probably since Troy Palamala. He was a guy that
Speaker 1: you would see all over the field. You'd see him
Speaker 1: up rushing, you'd see him up in the box playing
Speaker 1: to run, you see him back deep covering against the
Speaker 1: pass like he did a little bit of everything. And
Speaker 1: it's hard to find those kind of guys when you
Speaker 1: think about it, even across the league that can do
Speaker 1: so many different things like what we've seen in this
Speaker 1: just in the early career of Michael Parson. I just
Speaker 1: want to say, though, and I'm not trying to rain
Speaker 1: on anybody's parade. I'm as excited about Mica as anybody.
Speaker 1: I wrote a whole column about all of the things
Speaker 1: that I think he can do to help you in
Speaker 1: this game yesterday. But I think like people are so
Speaker 1: eager to win, you know what I mean, like people
Speaker 1: and they want to declare Mica, Like, look at all
Speaker 1: these dummies passing on Mica and it's like it's still
Speaker 1: week three of the rookie year. Patrick Surtan and j C. Horne.
Speaker 1: It's a bummer. J C. Horne got hurt last night,
Speaker 1: but they were off to awesome starts. They both already
Speaker 1: have interceptions. We don't have to declare winners and losers
Speaker 1: in September, and it could be a lot of winners took. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean that's hopefully everybody wins. Like I don't you know,
Speaker 1: I don't care, Pat, you know, Sir Tannon Horn are
Speaker 1: not gonna drastically affect the Cowboys fortunes. They're not in
Speaker 1: the division or anything. Like. I hope every I hope
Speaker 1: everybody gets to have a great player yea, all right. UM,
Speaker 1: one thing I also want to talk to you guys
Speaker 1: real quick about before we get to the storylines. There
Speaker 1: was a lot of talk yesterday about the about the
Speaker 1: coach in in Philly wearing a T shirt during his
Speaker 1: press conference that said beat Dallas, and it maybe start
Speaker 1: thinking about, obviously, in in Philly this week, like it
Speaker 1: is called Dallas week. Every time they play the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: it's called Dallas Week. I don't think. I don't live
Speaker 1: in Philly, but I don't think they have a giant
Speaker 1: sweet Cory Washington football team Weekum. Their their sights are
Speaker 1: firmly placed on Dallas. If you ask the Philly fan,
Speaker 1: I'm guessing they all will say in consensus, Dallas is
Speaker 1: the primary rival. It made me start to think, does
Speaker 1: Allas really have a primary rival? I know that obviously
Speaker 1: the divisions the division, but I also get the impression
Speaker 1: that a lot of those teams fan bases look at
Speaker 1: Dallas as more of a rival than Dallas looks at
Speaker 1: them as a rival. So I put out a little
Speaker 1: pole on Twitter. It was interesting what came back. I
Speaker 1: asked fans, who do they think the Cowboys primary rival is?
Speaker 1: Sixty seven percent of them said Philadelphia, which doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: shock me with followed by the Washington football team at
Speaker 1: twenty three, Giants at ten percent. And I did find
Speaker 1: another interesting thing, which was it really kind of seemed
Speaker 1: to divide along your age, like older fans are like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt it's the Washington football team, much younger
Speaker 1: fans who have lived and been fans in this last
Speaker 1: twenty years fifteen years. For them, it was all about Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: So it made me, you know again, I thought that
Speaker 1: was very interesting. I'd love to know what you guys think.
Speaker 1: Who do you think is Dallas's primary rival or do
Speaker 1: they have a primary in this division? I think that's
Speaker 1: a really fun thing about how huge and all encompassing
Speaker 1: this fan base is is It's gonna be a different
Speaker 1: answer for everybody, in my opinion, their primary rival, just
Speaker 1: in general, is whoever is the biggest obstacle in the
Speaker 1: way of winning the division and getting else? When I
Speaker 1: got here, I was arguing about this on Twitter with
Speaker 1: people yesterday. When I got here, everything was centered around
Speaker 1: the fact that the Cowboys couldn't beat the Giants at
Speaker 1: at and T. They could not get over the hump
Speaker 1: against Eli Giants knocked him out of the playoffs. The
Speaker 1: year they won their first Super Bowl, everybody was just
Speaker 1: fixated on not being able to beat the Giants. They've
Speaker 1: been beating the Giants asses for a decade now, and
Speaker 1: so nobody cares. Thank you, sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm not sorry. Whatever.
Speaker 1: Wait Clarence hill on yesterday and it was way worse
Speaker 1: than that. Oh good, Okay, shouts out Clarence. But nobody thinks.
Speaker 1: Nobody thinks about the Giants anymore, and it's mainly about
Speaker 1: the Eagles. The Eagles have won a Super Bowl recently,
Speaker 1: they've had better teams recently. Washington is I know you're
Speaker 1: an older and if Washington's your biggest rival, because they
Speaker 1: haven't been relevant basically in my lifetime, not other than
Speaker 1: a weird year or two here and there, like the
Speaker 1: Robert Griffin year or last year or last year. But
Speaker 1: they weren't good. Yeah for them, that's relevance. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: want a division that's relevant, so I think it changes.
Speaker 1: And then the other fun thing is there's people here
Speaker 1: listening in Dallas or Texas. We got a boatload of
Speaker 1: people in the DMV South Jersey, North Jersey. That's gonna
Speaker 1: matter if you're catching hell from Washington fans every day.
Speaker 1: That's who you're gonna hate the most. If you're surrounded
Speaker 1: by Eagles fans, you need them to win those two
Speaker 1: games more than anything. And I'll take it outside the division.
Speaker 1: Even we got fans in Seattle who are surrounded by
Speaker 1: Seahawk fans and that's who they hate just because they're like,
Speaker 1: I just need you to give me something that I
Speaker 1: can hold against these Seahawks fans, so they leave me alone.
Speaker 1: Like it's a fun thing about a fan base this big.
Speaker 1: So I don't think there's one answer, but right now,
Speaker 1: I think it's the Eagles. Well, and there's three or
Speaker 1: four other teams you throw in there. If you if
Speaker 1: you grew up and follow the Cowboys in the nineties,
Speaker 1: there was one team, one team you had to beat,
Speaker 1: and there was San Francisco. If you were in the seventies,
Speaker 1: there was one team you had to beat. If you
Speaker 1: live in San Antonio right now or south of the border,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you the Cowboys and Raiders. That's a that's
Speaker 1: a really big rivalry there for a lot of our
Speaker 1: Hispanic fans. You live close to Houston, because you know
Speaker 1: there's hatred for Dallas there, you know, from the Texans
Speaker 1: and all that. So there are you think there might
Speaker 1: be more to Cowboys fans in Houston than Texans fans. Maybe,
Speaker 1: but you would know that creates state rivalry. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and and also you think about Washington. You know, Washington,
Speaker 1: there are so many Cowboy fans, and we know we
Speaker 1: can look at our state map to see who's who's
Speaker 1: watching our our stuff and who's clicking on our website.
Speaker 1: It's always the bigger states at California, in Texas and Florida,
Speaker 1: New York, and then Virginia always slides in there, and
Speaker 1: a lot of it has to do with that. So
Speaker 1: I think I think historically it's Washington, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of big games. But I think Dave's right, it's
Speaker 1: kind of like who who it is right now? I
Speaker 1: do nobody hates the Cowboys more than Philly, which that
Speaker 1: brings it up a little bit more. And that's that's
Speaker 1: part of it too, is Philly does have this fixation
Speaker 1: on Dallas and and you kind of return the favorite.
Speaker 1: But it's the you know, think about them from the
Speaker 1: seventies and eighties and stuff like that. Remember the TV
Speaker 1: show Philadelphia. No, there was a show called Dallas. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was the show. It was like, yeah, I Dodelphia.
Speaker 1: But but it's it's it's the perception too. That's why
Speaker 1: they'd probably view Dallas way more than the other teams
Speaker 1: in the division because they're all Northeast. They all feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, they work hard, they grind their steel mill,
Speaker 1: all that stuff, you know, lunch pale type guys. And
Speaker 1: then Dallas it's glitz and glamour and ball this blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, which both of them is too stereotypical. But
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that's kind of the view.
Speaker 1: It's like Dallas, you know, absolutely, and that's you know,
Speaker 1: when Ship Kelly was there, We're from Philly and we
Speaker 1: fight Rocky this and that, and Dallas's see is this
Speaker 1: yeah right, He's yeah exactly. But you know I think Dave, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you hit it on the head. For me,
Speaker 1: like fandom, it's the great thing and it's the heartbreaking
Speaker 1: thing about being a fan. The greatest rivalries are for everybody.
Speaker 1: It's personal because it's about who you got to deal with.
Speaker 1: The reason why I hate OHEU so much is because
Speaker 1: I got so many friends who went to OU, which
Speaker 1: means that every year, that Saturday, that's gonna dictate our
Speaker 1: conversations for the next year until that next game, because
Speaker 1: anytime college football comes up, I gotta deal with whatever
Speaker 1: happens in that Texas OLI game. And it can be
Speaker 1: great if we win, it can be heartbreaking and just
Speaker 1: like you're depressed for a week having to deal with them,
Speaker 1: knowing you got to deal with them for the next
Speaker 1: year coming off a loss, and if you get stomped,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Like nobody wants to have to deal
Speaker 1: with that. That's fandom. I was so spoiled. And there's
Speaker 1: no other team than LSU in South Louisiana. That's it.
Speaker 1: You can go. You don't have to worry about what
Speaker 1: bar you go do to watch the game. It's the
Speaker 1: only thing on. It's the only thing anybody cares about.
Speaker 1: Then I move here and I got Arkansas fans and
Speaker 1: Longhorn fans, and I can't get the bar to turn
Speaker 1: my game on because there's a Texas A and M watch.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, oh my god, these people are the worst.
Speaker 1: But it but it makes it fun. It makes it
Speaker 1: fun that you get to have that give and take
Speaker 1: but that's what the rivalry is built on. It's whatever
Speaker 1: your personal thing is. Nicky and I were talking about
Speaker 1: this like it's whoever is that. There's always for every
Speaker 1: team that's that target that the coach knows, because the
Speaker 1: van base knows if you win that game, that's gonna
Speaker 1: get you a lot of grace. You can lose a
Speaker 1: lot of other games. Don't lose that game, and don't
Speaker 1: consistently lose that game because that'll get you fired. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, appreciate We're gonna go ahead and take our
Speaker 1: first break when we come back. We're not gonna be out.
Speaker 1: We got we gotta have our first break when we
Speaker 1: come back. We're going to get into some of the
Speaker 1: storylines of week three. Start with the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball. We'll do that when we come right back.
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Speaker 1: at the Star. Let's talk some storylines. There are lots
Speaker 1: of storylines going into this game, as there are every
Speaker 1: week in the NFL. Let's start with the offensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball. Philadelphia right now is ranked eighteenth in
Speaker 1: rushing defense. They're allowing one hundred and twenty yards per game.
Speaker 1: Dallas's defense, I'm sorry. Dallas's running game ran for one
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety eight yards last week against the Chargers
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers. Is this another game where Dallas relies
Speaker 1: on the running game? I think yes, I think that's
Speaker 1: where it starts. We're seeing that where these you know,
Speaker 1: but the running game is a dynamic running game. That's
Speaker 1: that's what we saw in that last game. And as
Speaker 1: and I love what Dave said two weeks ago the
Speaker 1: running game was it was really no different before with
Speaker 1: with the you know, with Tampa Bay. I mean, like
Speaker 1: that throws these passes that some of them, you know,
Speaker 1: is it a run, is it a pass? Is it
Speaker 1: behind the line of scrammons? Either way, it's it's just
Speaker 1: to the outside. It's a safe play, but it helps
Speaker 1: them get yards. So it's a it's an aggressive um
Speaker 1: kind of open ended running attack. I'm just curious to see.
Speaker 1: You know, we're so early in the season, the sample
Speaker 1: size is still we haven't played enough games to have
Speaker 1: a true idea of what these guys can do. Um,
Speaker 1: So you know the Eagles gave up one hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty nine to Jimmy Garoppolo, Matt Ryan only threw for
Speaker 1: one sixty four. Is that because they have this elite secondary?
Speaker 1: I kind of doubt it. Maybe maybe you just prefer
Speaker 1: the matchups. We know Kyle Shanahan loves to run the pall.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody in the league's better as
Speaker 1: it run the ball. Yeah, Um, so that plays into it.
Speaker 1: So I don't go into this thinking like, yeah, that
Speaker 1: they can just gash them on the ground. They should
Speaker 1: be able to get yards. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: need to run for two hundred and personally, just with
Speaker 1: my own experience watching the Cowboys play the Eagles, I
Speaker 1: assume there will be plays there to be made in
Speaker 1: the passing game. So yeah, I don't have a firm
Speaker 1: clue of what they are and what they're going to
Speaker 1: do yet, But I'm not going away from the passing
Speaker 1: game if it's me. And the reason why I was
Speaker 1: getting into this question is because I think in Week
Speaker 1: one and Week two, going into the game, you had
Speaker 1: a pretty clear understanding of I think we did of
Speaker 1: what those defenses like to do and what they try
Speaker 1: to do. And I think with Tampa, you know, stopping
Speaker 1: the run is priority one for them. You're going to
Speaker 1: run into a brick wall. Why do it when you
Speaker 1: could have when there was yards to be gained in
Speaker 1: the passing game. We talked about it yesterday. The Chargers
Speaker 1: are team that will play back a lot, and so
Speaker 1: they give you that opportunity to run, So why not
Speaker 1: run this game? I don't really know what that's gonna
Speaker 1: look like. It feels like it could be a little
Speaker 1: bit of both. But you look at the statistics and
Speaker 1: right now it says that running stopping the run is
Speaker 1: not something that has been a priority for them or
Speaker 1: that they've been really good at here in these first
Speaker 1: two games. Let's we want to the second topic. There's
Speaker 1: growing talk of Zeke and and Pollard and kind of
Speaker 1: how they're divvying up their roles and responsibilities. Although Pollock
Speaker 1: has more yards on fewer carries, should Dallas increase his
Speaker 1: workload at the expense of Zeke? I mean, I think
Speaker 1: you just keep you just keep playing it and see
Speaker 1: how it goes. Um. I think it's fine right now,
Speaker 1: just as it is, and I think the game will
Speaker 1: dictate if it's a little bit more. It's probably game
Speaker 1: plan wise, it's probably like sixty forty Zeke right now
Speaker 1: the game plan going in, which is fine, and then
Speaker 1: as it goes he keeps popping some of these big
Speaker 1: runs you and you see, hey, this is working around
Speaker 1: the edge and all that. But you know, I don't
Speaker 1: like looking at average. I don't think that's fair to
Speaker 1: either one of them. Average yards per carry, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't that because because when Zeke, you know, if it's
Speaker 1: third and one and they give the ball to Zeke,
Speaker 1: he gets a couple of yards. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: what he's supposed to do. It doesn't help his average,
Speaker 1: but it does. It's what he's supposed to do, and
Speaker 1: that moves the sticks and all that. So there are
Speaker 1: two different players. I like it. If it I like
Speaker 1: a sixty forty, If it goes down to fifty fifty,
Speaker 1: goes sixty forty the other way, that means Pollard's doing
Speaker 1: his job and they're and they're gashing them. So I
Speaker 1: think it's fine. And the thing is the only people
Speaker 1: that are having an issue is on the outside. I
Speaker 1: think Zeke and Pollard are totally fine with it. I believe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see why this is an issue.
Speaker 1: I thought they both played really well and we're actually
Speaker 1: seeing what we've wanted from Tony Pollard. I don't know
Speaker 1: anybody that's been calling for him to be like the
Speaker 1: lead back in the offense. They split the snap seventy thirty.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the statue right now. Thirteen carries, three receptions,
Speaker 1: throw in three kickoffs, so that's nineteen touches. He was
Speaker 1: averaging seven or eight. That's not okay, that's not enough.
Speaker 1: Twenty touches a game across all of it. That's tastic.
Speaker 1: Seventy snaps snap split. If you want to bump it
Speaker 1: up to sixty forty, I'm okay with that. If for
Speaker 1: some reason you think you see something from Zeke where
Speaker 1: he needs to be on the field more. Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: is a great example where they're going to send the
Speaker 1: house at you, and you want the better pass protector
Speaker 1: he is, by the way, Yeah, that's not lip service
Speaker 1: and it's not deferring to the more expensive player. He's
Speaker 1: so much better than Tony at that's one of the
Speaker 1: better ones I've seen at the position he's so if
Speaker 1: it's something like that where he needs to be on
Speaker 1: the field, let what you're seeing dictate that. The fact
Speaker 1: that they're willing to have Tony in as many as
Speaker 1: thirty one percent of the time like that can only
Speaker 1: be seen as a good thing, because what we were
Speaker 1: worried about was them not using him enough. I don't
Speaker 1: think we can say that right now. Is anybody just
Speaker 1: like Pollard needed it more last week? I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: that person exists, But I will say this, in a
Speaker 1: lot of the national coverage I've seen this week, there
Speaker 1: are people out there that are saying they need to
Speaker 1: have the Pollard out there more frequently and defer less
Speaker 1: to Zeke because they feel like he gives them more juice.
Speaker 1: That But that's idiotic that it is because of what
Speaker 1: we're just talking about. It doesn't work that way. This
Speaker 1: isn't high school where the guy yell you know you,
Speaker 1: You grab the you know wide receiver by the face, bask,
Speaker 1: give him the play, run it in and run it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work like that. They have all these plays
Speaker 1: they can do. They can switch from here to here,
Speaker 1: and when he has to switch from a run to
Speaker 1: a pass, then Dak wants to have Zeke right here.
Speaker 1: It goes knowing this linebackers coming in. That's why he's
Speaker 1: got value on the field more than just the juice.
Speaker 1: And let's be honest, Pollard, you know, there was a
Speaker 1: there was a reason why. One of the reasons why
Speaker 1: that whole thirty three seconds messed up is because Pollard
Speaker 1: didn't have the he was supposed to come off the field.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it happens all the time, but
Speaker 1: we've seen some lapses in his game like that as well.
Speaker 1: That's fine, It's gonna work out perfectly. And I think
Speaker 1: nobody has a problem but the guys on the outside
Speaker 1: or whatever, and maybe fantasy owners of Zeke because you know,
Speaker 1: because Pollard is cutting into that and I'm not about
Speaker 1: but remember when he was drafted, what's the one player
Speaker 1: everyone kept comparing him too or Stephen Jones compared him
Speaker 1: to com Comar. Well, Camarrow again made it to the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowler, has made it a few Pro Bowls. One
Speaker 1: year he made it to the Pro Bowl with mark
Speaker 1: Ingram and I believe Drew Brees was also in the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. So it can be done. You can have
Speaker 1: success doing in different ways. There nineteen touches on Sunday
Speaker 1: thirty percent of the snaps, and again I'd have to
Speaker 1: go back to really see the substitution patterns, but I
Speaker 1: know for a fact that it wasn't the old, boring
Speaker 1: third series of the game. Pollard is in like they're
Speaker 1: they're bringing them on and taking them off because it's
Speaker 1: modern sometime they have him out there. Yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 1: I just I cannot think of a reason why anybody
Speaker 1: should be upset about the way that this has played.
Speaker 1: So when they handed that ball off the off the
Speaker 1: edge for the touchdown, you know, just you You're thinking
Speaker 1: it's gonna pound it in and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: around the corner. I mean, I looked over in the
Speaker 1: press box at Dave. I thought Dave would give me
Speaker 1: a little bit more excitement than that, because that's a play,
Speaker 1: that's a type of play you've been talking about for years.
Speaker 1: You were just kind of like, we're you and I are.
Speaker 1: We're we're just different in the way that we digest
Speaker 1: the game. Like I'm all, I'm in my own head
Speaker 1: most of the cerebral That's not what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: just I'm in my own head and I'm thinking about things,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, what's what's going on the sideline?
Speaker 1: And Nick just Nick needs a dialogue. Nick wants to
Speaker 1: talk it out and be like, what's Oh, I know
Speaker 1: that's I don't know what to talk about. Every game,
Speaker 1: the whole game, I don't know if it was I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was Tampa or this pass game.
Speaker 1: But Nick was like, oh, you're not used to sitting
Speaker 1: so close to me, like you're gonna be able to
Speaker 1: hear me. And I was like, I've been hearing you
Speaker 1: for eight years, it doesn't matter. How about every game?
Speaker 1: All right? Last year? What I hate? I sat in
Speaker 1: these damn sweets by myself. Yea, yeah, that was probably
Speaker 1: what's this? Oh gosh? And then the lady would come
Speaker 1: in and bring like all these sandwiches for one person,
Speaker 1: even though it was like it's a sweet twenty sandwiches
Speaker 1: and I'm so I was just like, hey, they're gonna
Speaker 1: flip flicker, you know whatever I'm being. By the third
Speaker 1: quarter of every game, I would get a text from
Speaker 1: Nick like what y'all doing? How's it going back here?
Speaker 1: Everyone having a good time when y'all eat? Like this
Speaker 1: sucks like me to bring you a sandwich, which I
Speaker 1: do not. I do not find you annoying, but I
Speaker 1: do think probably I'm I'm self conscious about being annoying
Speaker 1: because we work with people who're just like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: please stop talking. So I and I'm a lowed person.
Speaker 1: I know that about myself. I'm self aware. So I'm
Speaker 1: just kind of like, let me just be over here
Speaker 1: and be quiet and not have somebody hate me for
Speaker 1: narrating a game. That Derek will do when I get
Speaker 1: really annoying in the game, and this is pre COVID,
Speaker 1: when we sit really close to each other, he'd be like,
Speaker 1: you get on that ice there, I'll chomp some ice now,
Speaker 1: like during games, you will go to good you get
Speaker 1: on that Yeah, all right, we'll gotta take our final
Speaker 1: break and we come back. We got to talk about
Speaker 1: the defense. There a few storylines we want to hit there.
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Speaker 1: six minutes. I don't know what our producers gonna tell me,
Speaker 1: but we got a few minutes to get through the
Speaker 1: defensive storylines and to get our predictions. So we're moving here,
Speaker 1: all right. Okay, So first thing, Dallas has played the
Speaker 1: twenty third and thirty first rushing teams in the league.
Speaker 1: More about Dallas's ability to stop the run or the
Speaker 1: opponent's inability to run, or even their desire to want
Speaker 1: to throw instead of run when you evaluate this defense,
Speaker 1: I mean this defense, I am just not ready to
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are some brick wall after what we
Speaker 1: watched last year. I mean, they added Parsons, he didn't
Speaker 1: even play linebacker. Last week, they got a rookie starting
Speaker 1: at one of the tackle spots. I just think I
Speaker 1: think teams know that or think that they can get
Speaker 1: their yardage through the air. I mean, we talk about
Speaker 1: we talk about Anthony Brown all the time. You know,
Speaker 1: where's Waldo? What do you? How do you want to
Speaker 1: attack these guys? And I think until maybe that'll start changing.
Speaker 1: But they're getting takeaways, they're getting picks. People don't maybe
Speaker 1: don't want to throw at Trayvon Digs too. Much longer
Speaker 1: that type of thing. But I just think it's more
Speaker 1: about them thinking, yeah, we can get chunks on these guys,
Speaker 1: and the Chargers did. Cowboys won the game, held them
Speaker 1: out of the end zone, but Herbert hit some disgusting
Speaker 1: gains in the passing game. So not a lot of
Speaker 1: teams that just want to line up and run the
Speaker 1: ball at you. And Tampa's not one of them, and
Speaker 1: neither of the Chargers. And you know, I don't think
Speaker 1: the Eagles are that way too. I mean the Eagles
Speaker 1: rushing yards, a lot of it's gonna come from hurt,
Speaker 1: so it's not traditional running. I don't know if you're
Speaker 1: gonna even see it till you get to I thought
Speaker 1: you'd see it next week. Yeah that might is he
Speaker 1: out in McCaffrey, it's hard to maybe he will. Cowboys
Speaker 1: haven't had a lot of join injury. Sounds like it's
Speaker 1: not good. They don't they don't know the severity, but uh,
Speaker 1: they made it sound like it'll be a multi wackloin.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Ham's tramps string. I'm sure JC Horn is out.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's broken foot. Yeah, so that you know that
Speaker 1: that's a storyline right there, and obviously we're not trying
Speaker 1: to jump ahead. But you know that's that's a break
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys to not play them. But but they'll
Speaker 1: they'll be ready, they'll they're prepared that they're gonna be
Speaker 1: three and oh so I know from experience, Hubble Hubbard
Speaker 1: is not a joy. He's a pretty decent running back
Speaker 1: home the States guy. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'll be ready
Speaker 1: to go. But I mean not until maybe they faced Minnesota.
Speaker 1: You're gonna really you know, tested running team. So we'll
Speaker 1: we'll see. But I mean, this week without Carlos Watkins
Speaker 1: in there, and they're gonna have to figure it out
Speaker 1: on the defensive tackle spot. But I mean, that's why
Speaker 1: keep it justin Hamilton, a four year veteran on your
Speaker 1: practice squad. Yep, these practice squad rules. This is where
Speaker 1: it benefits you right here. This you know, having a
Speaker 1: guy because you usually you have to bring up a
Speaker 1: practice squad guy. You guys making his NFL debut, He's
Speaker 1: calling his family, getting eight hundred tickets, all that stuff.
Speaker 1: This guy's played. Yeah, you like whatever, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: one of the things and I'm moving on to the
Speaker 1: next topic. But one of the areas where I think,
Speaker 1: or really the area I think that this offense actually
Speaker 1: gets any traction. I'm talking about Philadelphia. Is Jalen hurt
Speaker 1: and the two dimensional part of his game, the fact
Speaker 1: that he can run and he could pick up big
Speaker 1: chunk yards. What do you think is the best way
Speaker 1: for Dallas to be able to neutralize him or stop
Speaker 1: him and then in the process shut down their offense.
Speaker 1: I would spy him all the time. I wrote a
Speaker 1: whole column about it. I don't know if that's what
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. Since I took the time to write
Speaker 1: a column about it, they'll probably do the exact opposite
Speaker 1: and have Mica rushed the passer. I'd spy with Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons like as often as I could, and maybe not
Speaker 1: every single play, but we talked about that we don't
Speaker 1: have to get into the nitty gritty of it again,
Speaker 1: but especially third down situations, longer distances where he can
Speaker 1: kill you that way, um obvious passing downs, because that's
Speaker 1: what I mean. His the scrambles are what kill you.
Speaker 1: Like he ran for eighty two against San Francisco, sixty
Speaker 1: nine of them were on scrambles like designed runs. Niners
Speaker 1: had that lockdown, but scrambles where he can break, contain
Speaker 1: and do whatever he wants. That's where he can kill you.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't have to be Mica, but I would
Speaker 1: have a guy on him. I thought about this yesterday.
Speaker 1: Um Jay Ron Curse could maybe fill that role. If
Speaker 1: Kean O'Neil's out this week. Yeah, I would with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Parsons. I would you know, I would spittack him.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's a I just created that word spack.
Speaker 1: I would spy attack him. Yeah, I'd spy him, but
Speaker 1: I'd also get after his ass too. And at times
Speaker 1: I'm not just gonna spy him. Wherever you go I go,
Speaker 1: you can actually rush in a less disciplined way. You
Speaker 1: also have spy. You're right, right, but but it's like
Speaker 1: you don't want him that Okay, where I goes, where
Speaker 1: he goes, well, then sometimes he's gonna snap the ball.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be right there, so I'm gonna attack him.
Speaker 1: I think I want to see Mica blitz the A
Speaker 1: gap in this game. I don't think he's done that yet.
Speaker 1: Maybe he did against Tampa. I don't see remember pretty good.
Speaker 1: I think he did. Yeah he is. I think he
Speaker 1: did against Tampa give it. I'm pretty sure he did
Speaker 1: give it a shot. Well, you got Landon Dickerson starting
Speaker 1: for Brandon Brooke is uh yeah, Brandon Brooks. Why can't
Speaker 1: I am I saying his name? Yeah? I think that's right. Sorry, guard,
Speaker 1: you got a new guy, got a rookie, Got a
Speaker 1: rookie starting right guard. Yeah, I mean a good player.
Speaker 1: He's a good player, but he's a rookie starting. Just
Speaker 1: throw some stuff at him, make him pick up some blitzes.
Speaker 1: He did do it against Tampa and he got picked up.
Speaker 1: But that's a fantastic line. That's why he got off
Speaker 1: that block though, and he pressured him. I thought, I
Speaker 1: remember that play supposed to get all twenty two on
Speaker 1: game pass today. That's what I'm hearing. I cross those fingers.
Speaker 1: That's truth. But that's what I'm hearing. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: you don't want to hear a VP say that he
Speaker 1: knows more than I've heard too. I just don't know
Speaker 1: if that's true or not. We'll see, all right, So
Speaker 1: real quick, we only have about a minute and a
Speaker 1: half minute left. Give me some predictions. What's going to
Speaker 1: happen this week? Dave. We'll start with you everybody thinks
Speaker 1: I'm the chicken little who won't pick the Cowboys because
Speaker 1: I started off with back those were tough games, and
Speaker 1: that I said it at the time, That is not
Speaker 1: a reflection of what I think this team is or
Speaker 1: could be. Just really hard games to start a season.
Speaker 1: I have absolute faith in the Cowboys to win this game.
Speaker 1: I think they're better across the board. I think the
Speaker 1: Eagles have are really good on the line on both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball, but both of those lines took
Speaker 1: a hit. They lost the starting right guard, they lost
Speaker 1: their best defensive end, Cowboy killer, Brandon Graham. Cowboys are
Speaker 1: at home, Cowboys have Dak. I just think they're better
Speaker 1: across the board, and I trust what we saw they
Speaker 1: were able to do against Jalen Hurts. I trust Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn to have a plan of attack to limit him.
Speaker 1: I got the Cowboys winning like thirty one, twenty thirty one, seventeen. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think the spreads four. I think they hit that easily.
Speaker 1: I just if they are as good as I think
Speaker 1: they have the potential to be, this is a game
Speaker 1: they should win pretty comfortably at home. And this is
Speaker 1: in college football, where you're you know You're not gonna
Speaker 1: win forty five ten almost ever in the NFL. But
Speaker 1: thirty one twenty in and division game is a comfortable win,
Speaker 1: and I think they'll get it twenty Dallas. Yeah, I was,
Speaker 1: I was right there in the same boat. I was
Speaker 1: thinking about twenty seven seventeen. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a comfortable win for Dallas. I think that it might
Speaker 1: be a little close early, but I think Dallas has
Speaker 1: more I think Dallas has more ways of being able
Speaker 1: to beat them, and I think they'll pull away at
Speaker 1: the end. I think Dallas gets to win. All right.
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