1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody? Welcome to a Wednesday edition of Texans 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: All Access from the Texans Radio Studio. I am your host, 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: John Harris, Football on a sideline reporter for your Houston Texans. 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: So glad to be with you. Man, do we have 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: a jam packed show for you this evening. Mark will 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: joined me here in just a little bit. We got 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: plenty to do with Mark. We've also got Wayne Laravie 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: who's also gonna be on one of my favorite voices ever. 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: He used to join me on my overnight show a long, 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: long time ago and he was so gracious with his time. 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: I love getting the opportunity to talk to Wayne Larvie. 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: He will join us as men behind the mics. We 13 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: do that every single Wednesday. Mark sits down with the 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: play by play voice of the other side. It's always 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: great stuff. So Wayne Larvy will join us. We have 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: a little in the lab. We're also gonna have Jake Hanson, 17 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: linebacker for your Houston Texans, stopping by as well. But 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: each and every Wednesday, the executive vice president jar manager 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: of your Houston Texans, Casario sits in the chair next 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: to me and we chat about football, about Halloween, about snacks, 21 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: about food, all kinds of stuff. We had a lot 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: to talk about this week. Yes, he was on with 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 1: Sean and Seth this morning. They did a great job, 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: but we do a little different interview with him, so 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: hopefully enjoy Nick Casario with me and Mark for our 26 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: weekly exclusive one on one. 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: Joining us now at studio is executive vice president and 28 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: general manager Nick Cassario. 29 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: Nick, great to see you, It's good to be here. 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: Good to see it. Congratulations on the win. 31 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: I know we have to talk about green Bay, but 32 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: let's review Neil England got the job done in a big, 33 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 2: big way, biggest win of the year really. 34 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: Score wise, Yeah, for the most part, played well, got 35 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 4: off to a good start to possessions to score. So 36 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 4: one of the things we want to do is try 37 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 4: to get off to a good start, so offensiving and 38 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 4: defensively so we're able to capitalize there. A little bit 39 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 4: of a loll there in a second quarter, probably an 40 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 4: execute as well as we needed to in the third quarter, 41 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 4: kind of swung the game there with the turnovers, but 42 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 4: you know, taking the ball away something that we hadn't 43 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 4: done for a little bit. But the takeaways were a 44 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 4: big part of the game, and we were able to 45 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 4: convert those takeaways into points. So we're able to play 46 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: complimentary football against a good, young football team that made 47 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 4: some plays. So in the end, you know, made enough 48 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 4: plays and did enough good things and we're able to 49 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: come out with the victory. 50 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: Nikki did a few things that you like, you said 51 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: that you haven't done. 52 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 3: You got the four turnovers. 53 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: You haven't been getting the turnovers but still winning games, 54 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: but hanging got the turnovers. Explosive run game fifty nine 55 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: yard or fifty four yard or twenty yard Joe Mixon run, 56 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: and then you score forty first time they've been done 57 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: since day after Christmas twenty twenty one. I know, those 58 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: aren't goals. You go in and you say, okay, we're 59 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: gonna do these things. But how good was it to 60 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: reach those kind of goals that you hadn't been hitting. 61 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. 62 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 4: Takeaways sometimes come in bunches, so you might have a 63 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 4: lull there where you don't have any. But it's something 64 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 4: that we it's a huge emphasis point for the team, 65 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 4: something that we talk about each week each Thursday. Try 66 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 4: to identify some keys and when it happens, it comes 67 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 4: in bunches. So we're able to take the ball away, 68 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 4: which i'd say when we get to Green Bay, like 69 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: they're the best team in the league and taking the 70 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 4: ball away, that's one of the reasons that they're four 71 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 4: and two or you know, whatever their record is. So 72 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 4: in a running game, anytime you have the ability to 73 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: create some explosive runs, that is usually conducive to shortening 74 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: drives or putting yourself in advantageous positions offensively. So those 75 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 4: two runs, I mean it's really three runs were fairly 76 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 4: well blocked. There's a little bit of space that backs 77 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 4: were able to get through. The one was a little 78 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 4: bit more on the edge, and it was really more 79 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 4: it was well blocked, and then DP showed good balance 80 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 4: and body control where he was able to sustain on contact. 81 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 4: So anytime you can create explosive plays, whether throwing or running, 82 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: it's usually going to be a positive for the offense. 83 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: So it's good for you know, it's good opportunity, you know, 84 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 4: for us to see that come to fruition. 85 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: Just over a third of the season played and the 86 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: depth already really tested here. 87 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: Nick. 88 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: What's interesting to me is how you don't have Nico, 89 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: but the two backs come back and mix it in, Pierce, 90 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: and the team is different. You went in a different 91 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: kind of way with that explosive run game. 92 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: No, it's interesting point mark each week, it's probably gonna 93 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: look a little bit different. So your team is your team. 94 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 4: You try to create as much depth as possible, both 95 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: on and off the roster. You never know when you're 96 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: gonna need everybody. We had a situation where we're able 97 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: to get our two best backs back at the game, 98 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: and they went out there and we ran for one 99 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 4: hundred and ninety two yards rushing or whatever. We did 100 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 4: so very efficient in a passing game, I had the 101 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: one to turn over there down in the red area 102 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: or the fringe they'd like to get back. But and 103 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: then defensively without Kamari Dila went out there and played 104 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: very competitively. So there's a good example of a player 105 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 4: who started his career on the practice squad, made an 106 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 4: impact in the kicking game, developed confidence and trust and 107 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 4: his teammates and his coaches, and we're in a position 108 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 4: wheready to go out there. I don't know if he 109 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 4: played every snap, but it was pretty damn near close. 110 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 4: So it just speaks to the players and the coaches 111 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 4: getting the players ready to go and understanding at some 112 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 4: point we're going to need everybody to make a contribution. 113 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 4: It's a long season and you're going to need everybody 114 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: at some point. 115 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: Speaking of Nick, tough news this week losing Mario Edwards 116 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: for the next four games as we're about to get 117 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: a Nico Autry back rather not trade, rather than both. 118 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: But how do you think that interior defensive line kind 119 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: of shapes up without Mario for the next few games. 120 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it kind of goes back to the last question 121 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: we have. We feel like we have decent in depth there. 122 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: So Denko, coming back to Mario situation, I mean, it's 123 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 4: really and it's more of a league matter. There's really 124 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 4: not much we can do about it. I mean I 125 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 4: can make a comment about it, but probably discretion is 126 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 4: a better part of valor on that one. Good But 127 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 4: with de Nico, we'll see how he is this week. 128 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 4: You know, Kurt has been practicing there a little bit. 129 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: We haven't activated him, so we'll kind of look at 130 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 4: what our options are. But we've gotten good production from 131 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 4: that group regardless of who's been available and who's been 132 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 4: on the field. 133 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: What does winning on the road do for the team there? 134 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: You are in a hostile environment and you have the 135 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 2: unpredictability of the rookie quarterback. You have a proud franchise, 136 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: and they get the job done in the way they did. 137 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: Ye Every environment's different. 138 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 4: I think anytime you play in the road, you need 139 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 4: a certain amount of mental and physical toughness because it's 140 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 4: it's a challenge. So you're going into a hostile environment. 141 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 4: You know, good crowd. I mean, we'll talk about Green Bay. 142 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 4: It's one of the best environments for football that there's 143 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 4: going to be and they got a good football team, 144 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 4: so you're able to kind of block out everything that's 145 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 4: going on externally. Just focus on your team, focus on yourself, 146 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: here are the things that we need to do in 147 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 4: order to win the football game. And just be very 148 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 4: mentally and physically focused and maintain a certain level of 149 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 4: mental and physical toughness because that's what it's going to take. 150 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: And then if you have those components, and then good 151 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: execution always trumps everything else. So if you can execute 152 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 4: as a team, then you're going to put yourself in 153 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 4: a position to hopefully win on the road, which is 154 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 4: never easy to do so, but it's credited to players 155 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: for having the right mindset, having the right mentality. Dr 156 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: talked about just bringing our juice and bringing our energy 157 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 4: from the beginning, and the players went out and did that. 158 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 4: So it's nice to come out with a victory on 159 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: the road. 160 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: And you know, I like to talk about this stuff, 161 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: the support staff and the setup you guys create on 162 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: the road at the hotel, trucks leaving early to set 163 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 2: everything up, the meeting rooms, all the people behind the scenes, 164 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: Nick who contribute to winning. 165 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 3: Really, it's awesome. 166 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: You're talking about selfless people that put the coaches and 167 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 4: the players at the forefront and try to recreate as 168 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 4: best we can in the atmosphere that we have here 169 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 4: at Energy Stadium. So it takes a lot of work, 170 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: it takes a lot of effort, it takes a lot 171 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: of planning. There's a lot of diligence that goes into it. 172 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 4: But you're trying to simulate as best as possible what 173 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 4: it's like to be home in an environment that is 174 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 4: a foreign environment or away from home. But we have 175 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 4: an awesome group of people that really care about the players, 176 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 4: that really care about winning, that want to do the 177 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: right thing by the organization. 178 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: So we're fortunate to have those people in those roles. 179 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: Nick, you know, I'm fascinated by the college scouting process, 180 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: and I thought about that on Sunday after we talked 181 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: to Demico about Will Anderson junior, because I think back 182 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: to Will when he's in college and he's so physically dominant, 183 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: and you see some of the great things, but you 184 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: think about what he could do, Like, Okay, as you're 185 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: scouting him, are you thinking about, Hey, I think he 186 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: could do this. He's built this way, he could do 187 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: these things. But now you're starting to see some of 188 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: those come to fruition. His game is sort of evolving. 189 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: What have you sort of seen from Will, not only 190 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: from it's time back at Alabama, but now what he's 191 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: shown us in the first five six weeks of this year. 192 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: It's an interesting thought because the reality is any player 193 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 4: that you evaluate in college, it's about what we think 194 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 4: that player can do or what he's going to be 195 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 4: able to do in our system. 196 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: So they're starting from scratch. 197 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 4: So you always start with the person his mindset, his 198 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 4: work ethic, his mentality, his approach to work. How does 199 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 4: he go about his business That's a huge component, and 200 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 4: does he have the willingness to improve and take the 201 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 4: coaching and assimilate into the culture that you have in place. 202 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 4: So Will has been the same person who we thought 203 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 4: he was going to be coming out Alabama. That's what 204 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 4: he showed at Alabama. So you've seen a lot of carryover. 205 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: There's certain techniques that are different than what he was 206 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 4: doing in Alabama's defense. So for the ability of the 207 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 4: player to transition into that speaks to the player, speaks 208 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 4: to the coaches. But we thought Will was a good 209 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: player coming out out of Alabama. He's been a good 210 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: player for us, and he continually works to get better, 211 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 4: which is what you want to see in any player. 212 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: Can I put the spotlight on one more guy here, 213 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: nevill Hewitt, who I call a special team superhero, but 214 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: sometimes people forget he had to come into the game 215 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: and play some meaningful snaps Nick and once upon a 216 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,239 Speaker 2: time he led the Jets and tackles. 217 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: He can do that role. 218 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're fortunate to have players like Nevill Hewitt on 219 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 4: this team. We talked about Darra last week, we talked 220 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 4: about Neville Hewitt. When you look up the term professional 221 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: in the dictionary, there's a picture of Neville Hewitt. Doesn't 222 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 4: say much shows up works, is reliable. He's dependable. You 223 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 4: can put him on a field, you don't miss a beat. 224 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 4: And when you go back and look at his history 225 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: when he was with the Jets and when he was 226 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 4: with some of these other teams, there was years where 227 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 4: he had over one hundred tackles. So he was a 228 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 4: productive tackler out of Marshall. He was productive tackler when 229 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 4: he had to play defensively. He's been a productive player 230 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: both defensively in the kicking game and just his impact 231 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 4: and just his energy, what he brings to the kicking game. 232 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 4: I mean, he's a flag bearer for that group. So 233 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 4: have a lot of respect and appreciation for Neville and 234 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 4: what he provides to the team and what he brings 235 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 4: to the table. 236 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: So when you were in New England, did they ever 237 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: let you shoot off the musket from one of the patients. 238 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 3: That yeah, guys shook their hands. So yeah, that's a shame. 239 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: Let's move on because we're beyond the Patriots who got 240 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: the first winever. 241 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: Okay, that's the Monkey offer back. That's great. You mentioned it. 242 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: Going to green Bay, the village of green Bay, lambeau Field, 243 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: really good football team. 244 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: It's the white Out they're all excited up there. 245 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: I know that because my family's been hit me up 246 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: with it all for the last couple of weeks. But 247 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: it's the Packers and it's really talented team. Nick, what's 248 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: the scount of report on these guys? 249 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, first off, historical franchise, one of the most you know, 250 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 4: this to play in this environment, there's just something unique 251 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: about it fanned Own. It's just the way they're set up, 252 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 4: the way they're constructed. But when you look at their team, 253 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 4: I would say this is as well constructed a football 254 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 4: team as they're in the league. I think Goody and 255 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 4: Matt have done a great job. I'll give you my 256 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 4: little Matt lafleor anecdotes. So when I was a grad 257 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 4: assistant at Sagona Valley in two thousand, that was our 258 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 4: quarterback and that was a year we went to the playoffs. 259 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 4: That vision two playoffs and played Bloomsburg College, unfortunately lost 260 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 4: in the first round. 261 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: So Matt and I go back a long way. 262 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 4: I know he's here, you know, for the Texans in 263 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 4: two thousand and eight or two thousand and nine. But 264 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 4: this is a really good football team. They've drafted well, 265 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 4: they're so well constructed offensively. You know, Jordan has played 266 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 4: as good as any quarterback in the league over a 267 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 4: two year stretch. Here looks like he's kind of rounded 268 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 4: in a form. Was injured against Philly, but they do 269 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 4: a really good job offensively of playing to his strengths. 270 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: So between Jordan and they signed Jacobs in the offseason 271 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 4: and Josh has led the league in rushing. So Jordan's 272 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: a very I mean, he's a really good quarterback, very efficient, 273 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 4: makes good decisions. They can run the ball. They can 274 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 4: run the ball as well as anybody in the league. 275 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 4: And they have really a full slate of skill players 276 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: on the perimeter. The one guy that probably stands out 277 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: above everybody is Jayden Reid. I mean, this guy's explosive. 278 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: He's really good with the ball in his hands. They 279 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 4: find ways to get him the ball, I think going 280 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 4: into the game last week, I mean he had twenty 281 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: catches for over four hundred yards, ten rushes for one 282 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 4: hundred yards. He's explosive, he's really good with the ball 283 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: in his hands. And they have a young group around 284 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: him as well, you know, Dobbs, Christian Watson, Melton. They 285 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 4: play all of them and they've gotten good contributions from 286 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: Tucker Kraft, the tight end from South Dakota State. Kind 287 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 4: of going back to we were talking about, like what 288 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: Canny be right, and he's starting to kind of round. 289 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: It into shape. 290 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 4: Good offensive line, good run blocking team. So it's a 291 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 4: good offensive football team. They take care of football for 292 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 4: the most part. Matt does a good job of putting 293 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 4: them in a position to move the ball and score points. 294 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: They're as good a team in a red area as 295 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 4: any in the league, so certainly presents some challenges offensively 296 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 4: the end of defensively made some adjustments and modifications here. 297 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 4: Hire Jeff Haffley, you know who is the head coach 298 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 4: at Boston College over the last four years. Jeff has 299 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 4: kind of a history in the sort of the San 300 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 4: Francisco defense, kind of the four down front. There's some 301 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: similarities between their defense and our defense. And then when 302 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 4: you look at their front, they're long as hell. I 303 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: mean call it six four two sixty five seventy thirty 304 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 4: four inch arms. So they take away a lot of 305 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 4: space with the front, and they got a lot of 306 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 4: good players. They've invested a lot of early round picks 307 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 4: in the front. Signed Preston Smith in free agency. You 308 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: know a few years back, drafted Van s Orshaun Garry, 309 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 4: the kid from South Carolina. And then inside maybe not 310 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 4: as long, but there's disruptive Kenny Clark Devantae Wyatt, so 311 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 4: it's and then at linebacker drafted Cooper to Texas A 312 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 4: and m k in the second round. Who're starting to 313 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 4: incorporate kway Walker a little bit like Edmonds. I mean 314 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 4: six four two forty runs well, has a lot of 315 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: length in the secondary. I mean they've taken the ball 316 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 4: away and start with McKinney. That was one of their 317 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 4: big badge and acquisitions. Very instinctive player around the ball, 318 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 4: a lot really good corner in Alexander good nickel slash 319 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: corner and Keithshawn Nixon. 320 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: So this is a good defense. 321 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 4: And they lead the league in takeaways, so they're number 322 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 4: one and turnover margin. So they take the ball away, 323 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 4: they don't give it up offensively, so you know that 324 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 4: they're a good football team. 325 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: Young, well constructed. 326 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 4: I mean, hats off to Matt and Goody for putting 327 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 4: together a really good team, which is why they're in 328 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 4: the position that they're in. 329 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: Are they starting to use Bullard a little bit more 330 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: in his secondary as well, the rookie from Georgia's he has. 331 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 3: He seen a little bit more time. 332 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, honestly, John, both guys, so they're you know, 333 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 4: Javon plays opposite McKinney in base defense and they go 334 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 4: to nickel. There's times where he's played slot corner, nickel corner. 335 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 4: And they brought Williams the kid for moregan and as 336 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 4: well as a really instinctive players, so they use everybody 337 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 4: they're trying. It looks like they're trying to get Williams 338 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 4: on the field a little bit more so. It's a 339 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 4: good group in the secondary that's pretty versatile, very instinctive, 340 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 4: and they could take the. 341 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: Ball away looking at their passing attack. If I ask 342 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: you what's more important, coverage or pressure is the answer? 343 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, rush and coverage are tied together. 344 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 4: And I think you saw going back to the game 345 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: on Sunday, there were multiple examples. Yeah, we had the sacks, 346 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: but usually there's coverage behind it. So even if the 347 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: pressure gets there, but if the coverage isn't tire, if 348 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: not in the right spot, then the quarterback, if he 349 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 4: gets the ball off, then it's going to lead to 350 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 4: a positive place. So it's all related. So the combination 351 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 4: of rush and coverage will be important, and then you 352 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 4: combine that they have a really good running game. So 353 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 4: this is going to be about good execution, playing the 354 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 4: responsibilities the right way, don't try to do too much, 355 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 4: understanding who the threats are and where they align them. 356 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 4: And this's a good offensive football team, so they're certainly 357 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 4: going to present some Challenges's no question. 358 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: We know George sat for a few years, and even 359 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: last year when he took over as a starter. Early on, 360 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: it is kind of like, well, you know, I don't know, 361 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: but about halfway through the year it was like it 362 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: clicked and it feels like it's clicked ever since. How 363 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: difficult is he to account for because every throw he. 364 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: Can make on a field next, Yeah, he has a 365 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 4: really good understanding of what the defense is doing, arm 366 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: strength for days, can fit the ball in basically wherever 367 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 4: you want. He's accurate, throws a catchable ball, and they 368 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 4: do a good job is setting up the passing game 369 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 4: where he always has an option. So I think he's 370 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 4: done a good job from in terms of his growth 371 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 4: of just taking what the defense gives them. Okay, it's 372 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: not there. We'll go to the checkdown, get rid of 373 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 4: the ball. So he's a really good football player. And 374 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 4: Bob midway through the year last year to the end 375 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 4: of the year, I mean, he arguedly played as good 376 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: as any quarterback in the league. So kind of got 377 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: off to a little bit of a slow start, is 378 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: because of the injury, but it looks like he's kind 379 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 4: of rounding in the form. And they put I don't know, 380 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 4: twenty eight points on a board in the first halt 381 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: whatever it was against Arizona here last week. So I mean, 382 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 4: getting off to a good start is going to be 383 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 4: important for us as a football team. 384 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: How pertinent is the Malik Willis tape because that was interesting, 385 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: no law and they bring Willis sin and a lot 386 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: of people on the outside said, what are you doing? 387 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: Well it worked out really well for them. 388 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, credit to them. So they figured out what do 389 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 4: we have to do these next couple of games in 390 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 4: order to win the football game? So the heavy dose 391 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: at a running game, and then Eliak made some plays 392 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 4: in the passing game, and then he made some. 393 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: Plays with his legs. 394 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 4: So there are probably some concepts that'll carry over in 395 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 4: a running game that you have to account for. But 396 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: I mean there's a player who wasn't on a team 397 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: in training camp, acquired him basically at the cut, was 398 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 4: forced into action, and they figured out, well, here's what 399 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 4: we need to do in order to win the football game. 400 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 4: Made some adjustments and modifications, which a credit to Matt 401 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 4: and the offensive staff are doing that and putting them 402 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 4: in the position to win those two games. 403 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: A little bit easier. Nick to face an NFC team 404 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 3: a little later in the year. 405 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: I know that because you just don't have history with 406 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: NFC teams, and we lost all the Packers in twenty twenty. 407 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: It was a COVID year and they've completely completely different. 408 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: But is it any better because you've got five games? 409 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: I know you don't have that many of Jordan's, but 410 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: you got a little bit of a leak. Yet a 411 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: little bit of Jordan does that kind of help in 412 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: preparation this a little bit later, you. 413 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 4: Can look a little bit of everything. We just go 414 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 4: back to their previous years a little bit. Like we 415 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 4: talked about with Minnesota. Anytime you don't play a team 416 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 4: kind of in the cycle every three or four years, 417 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 4: you just have to go back and just familiarize yourself 418 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 4: a with the personnel, b the coaching staff, the philosophy. 419 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 4: Was there any changes from last year to this year. 420 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 4: You go back and use twenty three as a reference point. 421 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 4: If it's applicable. It might not be. 422 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 3: You might have to find some alternative measure. 423 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 4: But the most important thing is just understanding the opponent 424 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 4: as best we can understand what they're trying to do 425 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 4: in all three phases, and then putting ourselves in a 426 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: position we're going to go out with there and executing and 427 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 4: play good football on Sunday. 428 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: So I was in a conversation recently about things that 429 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 2: happened during COVID that innovated, things like zoom calls. We're 430 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: all used to that now, but the practice squad nick 431 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: that really changed during COVID. Do you think we'd be 432 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 2: here now without COVID with the practice squad the flexibility 433 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: you have. 434 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 4: No, it's a good question, but I think everybody is benefited. 435 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 4: It's just roster flexibility. It's given more players opportunity. There's 436 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 4: certain rules and parameters. You can include veterans and some 437 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 4: exception players, so it's just an opportunity for more players 438 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 4: to be available, and each team kind of sets up 439 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 4: the practice squad a little bit differently, so there's always benefits. 440 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 4: So I think we've always taken the approach. Whatever the 441 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: rules are, we'll try to maximize them to the best 442 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 4: of our ability, make sure we understand them and put 443 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 4: ourselves in the best position possible to do the things 444 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: that we think make the most sense. 445 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: For the Eastern Texans. 446 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: There's a great game in the NFL. They're great places 447 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: to go, but Lambo is at the top. How cool 448 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: is it? I know, I mean for me it's a 449 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: little bit of going back where I was a kid. 450 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: But for you Nick, what's it like when you go 451 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: to Lambeau? How historic that stadium is, all the great 452 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: things that have happened in NFL history. I know you 453 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: got to gear up to play a game, but how 454 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: cool is it to actually play that game? And how 455 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: cool is it that it's not in December where it's 456 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: two degrees, it's going to be fifty degrees. 457 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 4: It's interesting if you're fortunate to have an opportunity to 458 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 4: essentially play in every stadium in the NFL. Every environment 459 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 4: is a little bit different. They all kind of have 460 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 4: their own spin, but there's just so much history and 461 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,479 Speaker 4: just the atmosphere and you walk in there, the way 462 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 4: it's set up, it's just kind of a massive bowl. 463 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 4: We speaking of December we had I didn't played there. 464 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 4: It was twenty fourteen. We played a regular season game there, 465 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 4: know when they had Aaron, they had Brady. That went 466 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 4: back and forth. It was like twenty four to twenty one. 467 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 4: Kind of came down to the end of the game. 468 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 4: We were actually we played Green Bay and we were flying 469 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 4: from green Bay out to Los Angeles because we were 470 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: playing the Chargers, so we were kind of can be 471 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 4: going for two weeks. 472 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 3: But so much history. 473 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how many players are in 474 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame from the Green Bay Packers, but 475 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 4: it's a significant amount. So you have an appreciation for 476 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 4: they have an appreciation for a good football and you're 477 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 4: going to an environment like if you like football, you 478 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 4: like being a part of a good environment like Sunday 479 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 4: is going to be a really good place to be, 480 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 4: all right. 481 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: Thoughts on Vince Lombardi. 482 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: The trophy is named after him, and we have so 483 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 2: many coaches in the history of the game. We talked 484 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 2: about Paul Brown previously. How did Lombardi, in your opinion, innovate. 485 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: Is that his thing or was it just that he 486 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: was an excellent coach and won those championships in title 487 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 2: Town as they call. 488 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, all the above. 489 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 4: When you look at the success that coach Lombardi had 490 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 4: over the course of his career, he left his imprint 491 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 4: on the league and for him to be recognized with 492 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl Trophy being named after him, and it 493 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 4: speaks to excellence and it's what all we're aspiring, all 494 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 4: we're shooting for. So Paul Brown, I mean you talk 495 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 4: about in Don Coriel when you go back in the 496 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 4: history of the game, like they can't of lay the 497 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 4: groundwork for all of us. And you know, it's a 498 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 4: credit to the Packers organization for giving them the opportunity. 499 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 3: You know, we're big on history. 500 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 4: When you go back and actually look at the history 501 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: of the green Bay Packers, how they acquire their name, 502 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 4: the green Bay Packing Company, and everything that goes into it. 503 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 4: I mean, it's very unique. There's not too many, I 504 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 4: would say teams like it. So the fact that coach 505 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 4: Lombardi has his name on the trophy, I mean that 506 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 4: says it all right there. 507 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: I took Mark to the Packers Hall of Fame Yeah, 508 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: it's awesome. It's pretty cool. I mean, it's not the 509 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: NFL Hall of Fame but the Professional Football Hall of Fame. 510 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 3: But it's cool to just go through there. And I 511 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: went through there as a kid. 512 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: Now I can appreciate a little bit more looking at 513 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: all the different memorabilia, and they have Lombardi's office set up, 514 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: and it's just it's mind blowing in some sense to 515 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: think about, Like, that's really kind of where it all started, 516 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: was right there. 517 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 4: If you're into the history of football, to be on 518 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 4: the hallow grounds of lambeau Field in that environment, it 519 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 4: doesn't get much better. 520 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 2: All right, this week's most difficult question, Nick, We're going 521 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: to put you in a situation. 522 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 3: Here because wait for this one. 523 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: Green Bay is known for brots, right, this is their tailgates, right, 524 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: Brotts and beer. 525 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 3: You have to choose. 526 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 2: You have to choose one of the following Green Bay Broughts, 527 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 2: New England clam chowder, Baltimore crab cakes or Texas Barbecue. 528 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 3: You have to have one of these as a tailgate food. Well, 529 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 3: I probably have no choice but to select Texas Barbecue. 530 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 3: There we go, So let's take that out that out. 531 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 4: Actually, I'm a crab cake guy, So I like, okaycakes 532 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 4: anytime we have them in the in the cafe, Like, 533 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 4: I'll grab a crab cake. So if we take the 534 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 4: barbecue out, which that's obviously at the top of the list, 535 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 4: and then we draw a line, crab cakes probably would 536 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 4: be next. 537 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 3: And healthy ones. So is chowder up on the list? 538 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: I mean you were there for a while guy, not 539 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 3: a chowder guy. Oh, cars for a great breakfast at 540 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: ten o'clock in the morning like the other day. That's great, Nick, 541 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 3: thanks a lot of good luck. Thanks fellas. 542 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: Yes, I will admit the chowder at Jela Stadium was 543 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic. Fantastic. Also fantastic a trip to Lambeau Mark 544 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: and I discuss all of that next ride here on 545 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: Texas All Access. Welcome back to Wednesday edition of Texans 546 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: All Access. From now that Texans Radio studio, Mark Van 547 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: muer stays with me, your host John Harris playing on 548 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: a sideline reporter. 549 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 3: Mark, you're just overall thought about going to Green Bay. 550 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: We talk about an off season a lot whenever Green 551 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: Bay is on the schedule. You know, sometimes we've had 552 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: preseason games up there. I think we had preseason games 553 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: in nineteen and twenty one. 554 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: That was it, Johnny, that was it. I'd love to 555 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: do it every year. 556 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: Can I would go every year, Trust me, I'd be 557 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: all for it. I have a little family reunion on Saturday. 558 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss our dinner, which I always hate, but 559 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: I know my family has been. My family has been 560 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: has been planning this for a while. So my mom, 561 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: God bless her. I'd love her to death. She is 562 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: the just sweetest person. She has probably texted me once 563 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: a month since the schedule was announced. 564 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: Oh really, what do we do? What are we gonna do? 565 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: What's your plan? What you're playing? They live an hour 566 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: north of Green Bay. Yeah, a little about forty five 567 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: minutes hour north of green Bow. 568 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 3: You get a little chili. 569 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: Up there, just a little bit. But we should have 570 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: some good weather. We should have some good weather. So yeah, 571 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: it's it's not quite Canada, but it is up there. Man, 572 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: It's very close. Like Cargo that's gonna be. It's on 573 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: the border the Upper Peninsula. 574 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 3: Their a statue of Paul Bunyan. Outside of that town. 575 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: There might be somewhere, Okay, there might be somewhere, but Marrionett, 576 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: Wisconsin Way Way way up there. But looking forward to that, 577 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: that's going to be that's gonna be a blast. But 578 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: your thoughts about just going to Lambo for a regular 579 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: season game first time since twenty sixteen. 580 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 2: The best place to go in the league, that's what 581 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, let's be honest. This is the best 582 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 2: stadium to go to. It's the most historic Soldier Field 583 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: should be. 584 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 3: But it's not this. 585 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: You know, the Packers, the Bears, the Cardinals, these are 586 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: the oldest teams in the league. Now, the Cardinals, you 587 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: might think, what the Cardinals, Well, they weren't in Phoenix 588 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 2: at that point, right, they weren't in Saint Louis at 589 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: that point. They used to be the Chicago card And 590 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: it was the Decatur Staley's who became the Bears, and 591 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers were the Green Bay Packers. And 592 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 2: that's why the Packer Hall of Fame is as important 593 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 2: to see as the Pro Football Hall of Fame. In 594 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: my opinion, I've seen them both. I really believe the 595 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: Packer Hall of Fame there's just something about it, and 596 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: you know, it's different. They play actual NFL football there 597 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: in Green Bay as opposed to Canton, where, yeah, you 598 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: have the Hall of Fame game. You have all the 599 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: Hall of Famers, which is great. I'm not taking anything 600 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 2: away from Canton. I'm just putting a lot into green Bay. 601 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: So the history of it amazing and the way they've 602 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: added to that stadium, built onto it. We had a 603 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: luncheon there in twenty nineteen when we were there for 604 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 2: the year practice days. Big luncheon at Lambeau kind of 605 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: reminded you of Kyle Field in this way. You know, 606 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: they have those beautiful, beautiful facility attached to Kyle Field 607 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: with all the club levels, and they have so many 608 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: offseason events there. Kind of reminded me of that. Is 609 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: It's great. It's less a collegiate type of environment. I've 610 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: said this before. You feel more like high school in 611 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: a way. You're in a neighborhood. You don't see this 612 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: much in college right now. In college you're on a campus, 613 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: but at Green Bay you're in a neighborhood and all 614 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: of a sudden, boo, there's the NFL stadium and the 615 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 2: entire facility. So it's cool. I can't wait. Now as 616 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 2: far as the game on the field, this is a monster. 617 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: What Jordan Love and his merry band of past catchers 618 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 2: can do is dangerous. You gotta be ready for this one. 619 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: It is going to take everything they've got on defense 620 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: to stay close. 621 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. 622 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: So these two quarterbacks, it's interesting because they both take 623 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 1: over as starters at the same time. But Jordan's been 624 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: around for a little bit. So I went to Big 625 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: twelve Media Days tell a story. Went the Big twelve 626 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: Media Days back this summer and really at a great time, met. 627 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: And talked to a lot of different people. 628 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: So I had just finished up kind of an interview 629 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: with Yogi Roth, who does games for the Big ten 630 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: Network now. Because he used to cover Pack twelve network 631 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 1: to a lot on the West Coast, they asked him 632 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: the games for the Big ten Network. He's really really good. 633 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: So in a great we had a great conversation. He 634 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: had just had Jrot Johnson on his new podcast because. 635 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: They knew each other from the Lead eleven days. 636 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: And so I've talked with Yogi and then this guy 637 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: walks over and I didn't quite know who he was. 638 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 3: He introduced himself. He said his name is Mike Sandford, 639 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: and I was. 640 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: Like, oh, and his dad, Mike Sandford, was the offensive 641 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: coordinator at the University of Florida when when Urban first 642 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: merber Meyer first got there from Utah. So this is 643 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: Mike Sandford's son, and so Mike Sandford Junior had gotten 644 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: into coaching and all that kind of stuff. And so 645 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: Yogi introduces me to him. You know, hey, he's with 646 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: the Texans, and he said, oh, yeah, CJ. Stroud and 647 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, of course, everything goes to c J. 648 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: Johnny goes, yeah, story for you. 649 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 3: So okay. 650 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: So he's at Utah State at the time, and he 651 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: is the I think he's the quarterbacks coach or recruiting coordinator, 652 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: but I think he's quarterbacks coach. And so Gary Anderson, 653 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: who had been the coach at Utah State, came back 654 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: to Utah State and it was the coach there at 655 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: Utah State for a while, walks in his office and 656 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: he throws him like three or four videotapes and he says, hey, 657 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: fuy me the next Jordan Love, because Jordan Love had 658 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: been at Utah State and it had done a really 659 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: good job there. 660 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 3: Became first round picking twenty twenty. 661 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: So throws him the tape at some point and says, hey, 662 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: find me the next Jordan Love. So Sandford is like man, 663 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: I am scouring these tapes. I can't find anything. 664 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 3: He said. 665 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: Then I pick up this Rancho Kucamonga tape and I 666 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: throw it on and I see this kind of tall, 667 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: skinny kid and I watched him throw and I'm like, yo, 668 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: that is the next Jordan Love. 669 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 3: And that was CJ. Stroud. 670 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: So at that point, Mike started making calls, started to 671 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: get kind of on the on the radar of CJ Stroud. 672 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 3: And he said, this was the spring, early summer. 673 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: Of twenty twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen, and it was shortly thereafter, 674 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: So like a Sandford's making calls, talking to both CJ 675 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: and his mom, kind of making that relationship that you 676 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't recruiting. CJ gets the invite to Elie eleven. Oh, 677 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: and that's where he met He meets Gerrod. Yeah, he 678 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: wins the MVP and Mike said, yeah, recruiting was pretty 679 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: much over at that point, he said, he said, you. 680 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: To State was gonna lose out. The world had learned 681 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 3: about CJ. Stroud. 682 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: So when I see that these two are are going 683 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: head to head on Sunday, I thought about that story 684 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: with Mike and how things just changed really for CJ 685 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: with that Elite eleven week and dominating it and then 686 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: ends up in Ohio State. That turns into being a 687 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: number two overall pick. He becomes our guy. And now 688 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: you got these two. And since the start of twenty 689 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: twenty three, CJ averages the most passing yards in a game. 690 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: Jordan Love has the most passing touchdowns in that time. 691 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: So you're talking about two of the best young guns 692 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: in this league. And that I mean, yes, we want 693 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: the Texans to win, no doubt, we want Jordan Love 694 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: to not have a great game, But how coo will 695 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: that be to go up there and just see those 696 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: two just go at it and just have one of 697 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: those games where you're like, yo, look at these two guys. 698 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: They're playing at the top level. 699 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: I just think that would be really cool as long 700 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: as CJ comes out on top. 701 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: I told Wayne Larvie, who will be on the show later, 702 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: I said, this is going to be like Lynn Dickey 703 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: versus Ken Anderson. 704 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: You know you're gonna get one of those. 705 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna get one of those games where it 706 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: could be in the thirties. We'll see, we'll see if 707 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: it goes into the thirties. But I think this is 708 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: this could be a high scoring game for sure. I 709 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: think their defense is good, but they can be had 710 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: and they've had some moments of laps in Green Bay 711 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: this year, and I think you have to obviously be 712 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: in a situation where you're not coming back on them. 713 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: You got down to scores. You know, if you have 714 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: to play tennis and hold hold your serve, so be it. 715 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 3: Do it. 716 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: But I don't want one of these situations where we 717 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: have to be on the comeback trail the entire game. 718 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 3: Get off to a good start. 719 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: Maybe put the onus on them, you know, step on 720 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: their throats a little bit early, and forced them to 721 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: have to throw because he will give up the I int. 722 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one thing that he's done. 723 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: That's probably a little surprising that j doesn't, yeah, consistently 724 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: consistently because Love's been interesting in that way. Mark because 725 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: early in his career, and I say early in his career, 726 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: it's hard because he got into the league in twenty twenty, 727 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: didn't play any in twenty twenty, play a little bit 728 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one when Rogers got hurt, and then 729 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: took over a little bit in twenty twenty two, but 730 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: love has kind of this moment last year. You can 731 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: almost just you can see it in his in his 732 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: numbers from last year. He in his first those first 733 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: couple of games were pretty good as a starter. He 734 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: had six touchdowns in those two. They beat Chicago, then 735 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: they lost Atlanta. But then he ran it to a 736 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: stretch where he threw an interception for one, two, three, four, five, 737 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: five games in a row. One game he had two, 738 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: one game he had three in a loss to Las Vegas. 739 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: Then he went interceptionless and they won. But then he 740 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: played Pittsburgh he had two more. So it's really about 741 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: it's week ten. It's literally midway in the season. In 742 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: all outdher of the ball, two tuties, three tutties, three tutties, 743 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: one tuddy, one interception, two tutties, two tutties, three tutties 744 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: two he doesn't He throws one interception for the next 745 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: eight games. 746 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: It was not looking good early, right, like you said, right, 747 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: and you were starting to wonder, well, I was, is 748 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: this gonna happen for him or not? Because you know 749 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: I doubted him anyway, But then clearly removed doubt. And 750 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,479 Speaker 2: this is why guys need to play right, And this 751 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: is why. You know, if you're a Titans fan, and 752 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: clearly I am not one, you understand it in a way. 753 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 2: If you really think Levis is it the man as man, 754 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: He's got to play football in order to get better. 755 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: You cannot get any better by not playing, but you 756 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: might not get better by playing. So that's the risk 757 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: you take by playing these young quarterbacks. Like, all right, 758 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 2: I guess this is it. We got to take our 759 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 2: shot with this guy. Give them the time to improve, 760 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: because there's no way to I mean, there are things 761 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: you can do, but there's no way to really see it. 762 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: And some guys need a number of games to really 763 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 2: feel their way, and that's clearly the case with Jordan Love. 764 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: What I find fascinating though, is he has that stretch 765 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: where he has one interception in those eight games. Then 766 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: he goes a playoff game against Dallas and they just 767 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: roast Dallas. But now you look at him, think Dallas 768 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: has got roasted the last four or five games. Quote 769 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: somebody used to work with who doesn't, Yeah, exactly roast Dallas? 770 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 3: Ye doesn't. 771 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: It seems like that happens a lot. Look, they're good, though, 772 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: Green Bay's good. We got to give them there too. 773 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 3: No, no, I'm not. 774 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but it's they beat Dallas. But 775 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: then he throws two interceptions against the Niners. And he 776 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: has started four times this year with an interception in 777 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: each game, three of them in the loss to Minnesota. 778 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: So in his last five games, counting that forty nine 779 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: Ers playoff game, you're talking about four seven eight interceptions 780 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: in five games. 781 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 3: To your point, he will. 782 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: Now, the interception against the Cardinals is kind of unfortunate 783 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: because he's throwing a little snagger out, a little short, 784 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: you know, kind of inner hitch route, and his receiver 785 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: slipped and it was funny because Kevin Couger's on Coogler's 786 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: on a call and he's like, oh yeah, you can 787 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: clearly see him slip. 788 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: It then falls in the hands of the dB. Are 789 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 2: you saying every interception as a story. That's kind of 790 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: where I'm going with it. But here's the other thing too. 791 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: He's only been above fifty nine percent once this year 792 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: in completion percentage. 793 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 3: That's eye opening, that's odd. 794 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: So like against the Rams fifty eight percent, against the 795 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: Vikings fifty nine percent, and last week he was only 796 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: fifty percent. 797 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: What's the Mendoza line. And by the way, in baseball, 798 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: the Mendoza line is hitting two hundred. 799 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'm not going to get into the whole. 800 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: Story and why it's called the Mendoza line, But what's 801 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: the Mendoza liign for completion percentage in NFL football for 802 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: starting quarterbacks, the Mendoza ligne. It can't be sixties. Sixty 803 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: is more like batting two fifty. Yeah, right, it's probably 804 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 2: gonna be at least well two fifty. There are a 805 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: lot of guys who bat under two fifty are still 806 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 2: pretty good hitters, yeah, because they're hitting with. 807 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 3: Power, right, they might be getting on base in other ways. 808 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: That's kind of what he is. 809 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 1: He's this year his so he's fifty, he's overall fifty 810 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: eight point nine percent. But yet his TD percentage is 811 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: the largest in the league. He's thrown twelve tds thus 812 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: far this year. So, I mean, look, I'll be the 813 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: last one to sit there and tell you Jordan Love 814 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 1: is struggling. No, no, that's not. 815 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 3: He's not struggling, but he does have vulnerabilities. That's right. 816 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 2: You're gonna give us some big plays to Jordan Love. 817 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: I don't care who you are. It's gonna happen. We 818 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: just have to brace ourselves and hope that it's minimized. Yep, 819 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: the big play surrender is minimized, and somehow somewhat will 820 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 2: and then you'll just got to get after it and 821 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: force him to make some mistakes, get him off his 822 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 2: launching point. We talk about this every week with quarterbacks, 823 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,959 Speaker 2: and it happened with Drake May. Now you got Jordan 824 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: Love who's seasoned, seasoned enough anyway, and is making a 825 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 2: lot of plays. 826 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 3: Now. 827 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: One of the things that Love will do is he 828 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: will throw off his back foot, fading away, trying to 829 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: throw one down the field like he's got that club 830 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: in his bag. 831 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 3: It will happen. You have to capitalize on that. 832 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: Where against the Cardinals he does that and he throws 833 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: a touchdown. 834 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 3: So it's like when a. 835 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: Guy kind of his mechanics go to hell and all 836 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden things are bad. He's fading away from 837 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: the d line. You've got to make him pay for 838 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: making a decision like that and doing things like that. 839 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: And that's where it's gonna get tough. That's where it's 840 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: tough because he can make tho he can make those throws, 841 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: but what I also like about what Matt Lafleur is 842 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: doing for him. I think Matt does a really nice 843 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: job of getting your worst cover guys in a position 844 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: where they're covering maybe not the best guy they have, 845 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: but a really capable guy. 846 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 3: So last week a great example of that. 847 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 1: It's it's seven to nothing, they get a drive going, 848 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: they get it down in the low red zone, and 849 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: they run Jayden Reid. And if you're trying there's been 850 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: some talk about Jayden Reid thus far this week, just 851 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: easily think Tank Dell. If you think about what Tank 852 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: Dell is, then you kind of get the point. I 853 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 1: don't think Jaden's as explosive, but it's pretty dark close 854 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: and the way he's used is pretty similar. So Reid 855 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: is running a crossing route and the Cardinals are playing zone, 856 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: and the Packers know that they're gonna bump the zone, 857 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: so at some point as Reid's crossing, they're gonna get 858 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: a linebacker on Reid. 859 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 3: Well, Jordan just lets all that clear out there. 860 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: He is linebacker Chris Barnes, a former Packer who they 861 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 1: know well is not gonna run with Jade Reid. 862 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 3: Reid runs by him. Jordan Dotson. 863 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Barnes was actually in good coverage hits red touchdown. 864 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 3: It's fourteen to nothing. 865 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: But it's just the way that Matt's scheme that play 866 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: up to make sure we're gonna get read on their linebacker, 867 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: and that I think helps Jordan too, that he gets 868 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: some advantageous situations and then takes advantage of him the 869 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: other touchdown, the deep onto Christian Watson gets. 870 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 3: He gets Christian Watson on safety. 871 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, and we know that Buddha is not the 872 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 1: best cover guy in the world. 873 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 3: Buddha wants to play by the box. 874 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: He wants to make all those plays, tackle plays, those 875 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: are all the things that Buddh wants to do. 876 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 3: But they get Christian Watson on Buddha Baker, not one 877 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 3: on one. 878 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: Should have had a little bit of help with the 879 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 1: other safety, but still took advantage of it. Love throws 880 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: it up there. Watson's got Baker beat touchdown. Now it's 881 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 1: twenty four to I think it was twenty four to 882 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 1: nothing at that point, and now it's pretty much Cardinal's 883 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: chasing the rest of the game. 884 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 3: Packers just have to keep them at bay. 885 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,959 Speaker 1: So Matt Lafluor is giving Jordan Love some opportunities as well. 886 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: And we know how good coach Mattlaflour is. 887 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 2: Do you think that these receivers before the Jets acquired Davante, 888 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 2: these receivers are better than the Jets group over, even 889 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 2: though the Jets of Garrett Wilson. 890 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 1: The Yeah, these receivers probably scare me the most because 891 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: of how they all fit together. Okay, because now with 892 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 1: and then there's Craft as well, So I think it's 893 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: hard to be as good as Garrett Wilson. But I 894 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: think the other guys with the Jets now before DeVante, 895 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 1: the other guys of the Jets. 896 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 3: Are just old packers. There's old packers and they're okay. 897 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:32,240 Speaker 1: But Jayden Reid, Christian Watson, Romeo Dubbs, and Tucker Kraft, 898 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: every single one of those guys can beat you deep. 899 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: Every single one of those guys can hurt you and 900 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,439 Speaker 1: catch and run situations. Every single one of those guys 901 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: can be intermediate threats making catches on third down like. 902 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 3: They all they all can do that. 903 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, the running backs are really 904 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: good receivers out of the backfield too, So you have 905 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: all of that that you have to account for. I 906 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: think that group is younger and more dangerous in that way. 907 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: You put Garrett Wilson the Packers, forget it, I mean 908 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: game over, Holy callck? 909 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 3: How do you stop them? 910 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: So? 911 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 3: And I think you're gonna have your hands full of 912 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 3: stopping them. 913 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: But I would absolutely say Mark that that group was 914 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 1: better and is better before Devonte got to the Jets. 915 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: Now you put Devontae Vigaret Wilson, Like, that's kind of hard, 916 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: That's kind of hard to contend. How do you think 917 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: that's gonna work. I think Jets are good this year. 918 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: I mean they're two and four. I just don't think 919 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: the defense is playing at that particular level. I don't 920 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: with Rogers. You know, with the Packers, you know, he 921 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: could move around that pocket a little bit. 922 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. 923 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: Now with the Jets, it just looks like as soon 924 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,439 Speaker 1: as he gets a little bit of pressure of his feet, 925 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: he get rid of it. 926 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 927 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: And I think that's taking away from some of his 928 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: his accuracy, some of his just greatness. Because his greatness 929 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 1: was moving around the pocket a little bit. He's having 930 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: trouble kind of managing that pocket, I think as well 931 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: as he wanted to. So I just don't know that 932 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna get those throws to DeVante and Garrett like 933 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: he used to, because he would make some of those 934 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: getting out like CJ does. CJ wouldn't run on you 935 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: a ton, and doesn't run on you a ton, but 936 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: he can just work to pocket enough, shake off a 937 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: tackler and get out, and all of a sudden, he's 938 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: look at the whole field, and DeVante knew how to 939 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: work with him and how to work back to him 940 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: and all that. 941 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 3: So I'm I'm curious. 942 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: Obviously, Halloween Night will be kind of interesting now that 943 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: we're taking him off. But I just think that if 944 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: you can get Rush to Rogers, he's not as apt 945 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: to beat you with it because it seems like he's 946 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: got a quicker trigger because of you know, he's worried 947 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: about getting hit. His offensive line is not as great 948 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: in front of him as it was in Green Bay. 949 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: So I think all of those are playing a role. 950 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: But I feel like this is my take. Go get 951 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: your thoughts on this. I just feel like Woody Johnson 952 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: is taking that stance of I'm going as far just 953 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: I want it one time. I want the super Bowl 954 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: one time. Just give it to me one time, then 955 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: we'll tear it down. It's kind of a Florida Marlins 956 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: fire sale. Whatever, Just give me the one time. I 957 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: just want the one. You know, I'm of going and 958 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: winning a super Bowl and I'll feel good. I can 959 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: feel satisfied and then I don't care what else happened. 960 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 3: And you know what, that always works in the NFL. 961 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 2: It always always works exact to go all in, spend 962 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 2: all your money because this is a third round pick, 963 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 2: could be a two for what could be a one 964 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 2: year deal. 965 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 3: Who knows and Rogers what this is. 966 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: It may mean next year if you're if you work 967 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: something out, would feel good about it. 968 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 3: So what happens this year? 969 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: If okay, they've got to get a new coach, we 970 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: don't know what happens, all break and all that kind 971 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: of stuff. So what happens? What happens if they go 972 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,720 Speaker 1: to hire a coach? Are they gonna want rogers approval. 973 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 3: On the coach? 974 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: Of course, if he's gonna stay right there lies my point. 975 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: So Rogers is going to give you the approval on 976 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: the coach. So again you're gonna get in another Nathaniel 977 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: Hackett like situation where you're gonna get a guy that 978 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 1: Rogers likes. Yeah, when Rogers approves of and then he 979 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: plays seventy five to eighty percent of what he was 980 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 1: in Green Bay or less. Now you're stuck the head 981 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: coach that was of Rogers. Choosing Rogers is clearly done. 982 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: At that point, you've you've killed yourself for another couple 983 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:06,479 Speaker 1: of years. 984 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 5: Right. 985 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 2: But if they flame out the rest of the way, 986 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 2: let's say they finished Flowed seven and ten, you're gonna 987 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 2: blow it out loada because he will not have played 988 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 2: that well, Loda, It'll be over for him. Probably you're 989 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 2: gonna have to start all over again. Look, look what 990 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 2: Cleveland did trading Amari Cooper, right, So they're starting to 991 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 2: make those moves like, Okay, let's restock the draft cupboard. 992 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 3: We made a mistake here. Yep. If it reverses, it reverses. 993 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 2: But let's assume right now that it probably won't, and 994 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 2: let's get some draft capital going and get ready for 995 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 2: the future. And if I were them, I'd do it 996 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 2: with Stefanski because I think Stefanski is a good coach. 997 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 2: I think this is a bizarre situation and there's no 998 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 2: other way I can describe it. 999 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,439 Speaker 1: How many points, what's the highest point total the Jets 1000 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: have had this year. 1001 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 3: It's not high twenty four. 1002 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's in their two wins and their four 1003 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: losses nineteen nine seventeen twenty. 1004 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 3: They have three of the next four on the road. 1005 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 2: Steelers Sunday night, another primetime game for the Jets. I 1006 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 2: mean they have like ten, it feels like. 1007 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: Then at New England, yeah, which we know that's and 1008 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: then US on Halloween on a short week, so. 1009 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 2: They have Steelers, New England, US, and then at Arizona 1010 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 2: and then and then they've got I would not pick 1011 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 2: them at Arizona if Arizona's remotely healthy, I'm not picking 1012 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 2: the Jets in that game. I know he's played well 1013 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 2: there in the playast. 1014 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: And then on the after the bye week Seattle at 1015 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: Miami at Jacksonville Home, Los Angeles at Buffalo Miami. Now 1016 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: they can finish well, they can finish, you know, solidly 1017 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 1: against that. But if they go five and six down 1018 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: the stretch, guess what their record will be? 1019 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 3: Seven and ten, just like it was last year. 1020 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, So seven and ten with Rogers, with Rogers as 1021 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 2: opposed to Zach Wilson. 1022 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: So I don't know, I look at that schedule and 1023 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: I think I think that three out of four stretch, 1024 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 1: I think they'll get beat out of that. They'll get 1025 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,919 Speaker 1: be once. Definitely, hopefully we beat that's too. We'll see 1026 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 1: what Miami's got in December, because that's maybe too. It 1027 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: comes back, maybe not, you know, and then they gotta 1028 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:08,280 Speaker 1: go to a Buffalo. 1029 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 3: They're hard to figure. We could get the best version 1030 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 3: of the Dolphins. I don't know. 1031 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: I comes up to Dolphins healthy, but you no idea 1032 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: what to think about the Dolphins. 1033 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 2: That's not you know, as far as the Texan schedule goes, 1034 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 2: I look to December like it's a thousand years from now. 1035 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 2: I know we're gonna get there fast, but you have 1036 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 2: so much football to play before you get to that 1037 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 2: Kansas City, Baltimore, Miami before that, you have so much 1038 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 2: to play through before you get to that. Oh I 1039 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 2: gotta worry about his Green Bay because, trust me, you 1040 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 2: know how I feel the horseshoes coming next week. I 1041 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 2: don't care what happens Sunday. No, this is gonna be 1042 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 2: a big game. I don't care what they do this week, 1043 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 2: and against Miami, I expect them to win at home. 1044 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:45,760 Speaker 3: This is gonna be a tough one. 1045 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 2: That is their chance, their perceived chance to get back 1046 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 2: into the race. Because let's say they beat the Dolphins, 1047 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 2: Texans meet the Packers, go six and one, right, Colts, 1048 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 2: all right, we're two back, but we get this one. 1049 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 2: Now we're one back with us. They're gonna be so 1050 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 2: fired up for that game. Just no, just no, how 1051 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 2: about this with the this is crazy. 1052 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: The Jets played on Monday night, Thursday night in London, 1053 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:22,439 Speaker 1: Sunday morning, Monday night, Sunday night against the Steelers. Two 1054 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: weeks later, they play us on Thursday night. They had 1055 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: the four to twenty five game out of West of Arizona, 1056 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 1: and then a Sunday night game against the Colts. 1057 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,399 Speaker 3: That's all before the bye week. 1058 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 2: Wait, so they've done two Thursdays plus London. Yeah, and 1059 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 2: didn't take the bye after London. 1060 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 1: That's right, not taking the buy after the Colts gaming 1061 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 1: week twelve. 1062 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 2: And look, don't nuts, I don't root for them, but 1063 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 2: this schedule that has as much to do with their 1064 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 2: struggles as just about anything. Not quite, but just about 1065 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,720 Speaker 2: any team would have a tough time navigating through that pile, 1066 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 2: because that is to have two Thursdays early on first 1067 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 2: not even half of the season, and then we're looking 1068 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 2: October and London and you didn't take the Bible. 1069 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 3: It's your fault. You didn't take the buy after London. 1070 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 3: But I get it. That's tough to get there. 1071 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,240 Speaker 1: And you lost your coach and you've traded for Devonte Adams. 1072 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's all kinds of stuff going on with 1073 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: the New Jersey, I mean, the New York Jets, all right, 1074 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,959 Speaker 1: A lot of stuff going on with this Green Bay 1075 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,760 Speaker 1: Houston game coming up on Sunday. The injury report is out. 1076 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at it. Could be worse, could 1077 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: be a lot better too. We'll discuss that next on 1078 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: Texans All Access. A lot of Texans news today, so 1079 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: let's start with this news that we got earlier in 1080 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: the day. Will Anderson Junior Defensive Player of the Week 1081 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: in the AFC. That's four of them this year, covering 1082 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: all three phases. Joe Mixon Week one, Will Anderson Week six, 1083 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 1: Kymie Fairbairn Weeks two and five. How about that? Will 1084 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 1: Anderson Junior three sacks, fourth dfls, one pass defense that 1085 00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: was deflected into an interception. His sacks, his saxon tackles 1086 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: for lost both rank first across the NFL last week. 1087 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: His tackles led the team and he tied for the 1088 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:10,760 Speaker 1: most among defensive ends league wide. Congratulations to Will Anderson Junior, 1089 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,399 Speaker 1: his first time to win AFC Defensive Player of the Week. 1090 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 1: All right, let's get this injury report because it's kind 1091 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: of gnarly, especially on the defensive side. One two, three 1092 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: for five starters ziz Al Schier fully fought, Akassi, Kamari Lasser, 1093 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 1: Henry totoa Jimmy Ward, all five of them dealing with injuries. 1094 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 1: They were DMP. Robert Woods also did not participate. Yikes, 1095 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 1: So that's six very key players limited Joe with the ankle, 1096 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: Deshaun Phillips with a hip, let me Tunsle with the ankle, 1097 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: but everybody else was full over On the Green Bay side, 1098 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: Elton Jenkins with a knee, Kolby Wood and Devonte White, 1099 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: two defensive linemen from the SEC went from Auburt went 1100 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 1: from Georgia. Both did not participate. We'll keeping eye Elton Jenkins, 1101 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: he is key to that offensive line. Limited participants a 1102 00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: number of players including Jyry, Alexander Christian Watson, Jayden Read 1103 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: Dantavian Wicks. That's their receiving course, so injuries could be worse. 1104 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: Five starters did not participate. We'll keep an eye on 1105 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: those guys. We've I think it was Aaron Wilson reported 1106 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: Kamari might be a couple of weeks. I don't know 1107 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: what Henry with the concussion. Fully, I saw in the building, 1108 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: yeah today, so hopefully that's a good sign. And saw 1109 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: disease as well, So hopefully we'll get a chance to 1110 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 1: see them later in the week. But injury report for 1111 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: your Texas All right, we get back to maybe hind 1112 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,280 Speaker 1: to Mike Swayne Lairvie, a long time voice the Packers 1113 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 1: joints Mark van Ernext right here on Texans All Access. 1114 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome back to this second hour of 1115 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Hunday Texans Radio studio. It's 1116 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: time for the Stats Challenge, brought to you by SLB. 1117 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 1: How about this one. Since the start of twenty twenty three, 1118 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 1: one quarterback has the most yards per game in the 1119 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: NFL and one quarterback has the most passing tds in 1120 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,280 Speaker 1: the NFL. They will meet on Sunday. 1121 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 6: C J. 1122 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 1: Stroud is averaging two hundred and seventy point seven yards 1123 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: per game through the air. That's the best since to 1124 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,359 Speaker 1: start at twenty twenty three. Jordan Love has the most 1125 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 1: passing touchdowns in the NFL in that same timeframe with 1126 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 1: forty four. Those two will meet on Sunday. How about that. 1127 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: That's your status challenge, brought to you by SLB. Now 1128 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: it's time to bringing you men behind the mics. Wayne Larvie, 1129 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 1: what an interesting guy. When I was doing my national show, 1130 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: I mentioned this a little bit earlier in twenty eleven 1131 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: through twenty thirteen, we had the opportunity because it was 1132 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,919 Speaker 1: a national show to get a number of NFL play 1133 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 1: by play man. I had Kevin Harlan on a bunch. 1134 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: I would get college guys on Eli Gold Alabama voice 1135 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: voices of Alabama Crimson Tide for a long time. I 1136 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,800 Speaker 1: also used to get Wayne Laravie and got him a 1137 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 1: few times, and he was so gracious with his time. 1138 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: And having been a little guy growing up with Green 1139 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: Bay Packers, Packers are always kind of my second team, 1140 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: and so Wayne Laravie, having been a former Bears announcer 1141 00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: now a Packers announcer. It's amazing how the Packers fandom 1142 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: has really kind of taken him in he sat down 1143 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: with Mark Vandermuir to go through all of that, and 1144 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,280 Speaker 1: this one on Sunday we call him and behind Mike's 1145 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: Mark Vandamir with Wayne. 1146 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 3: Larvie joining us. 1147 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 2: Now Wayne Laravie the voice of the Green Bay Packers 1148 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 2: and Wayne, we don't get together too often, so this 1149 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 2: is special, especially this year. 1150 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 3: What do you make of the season so far for 1151 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:21,959 Speaker 3: Green Bay. 1152 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 5: I've been an intriguing season, have had some adversity and 1153 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 5: have overcome it, supposedly, and you know, they're building and 1154 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 5: they're kind of an evolving team. They're not worth everyone 1155 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 5: thought they would be, but they're certainly heading in the 1156 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 5: right direction, that's for sure. Off the big win over 1157 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,439 Speaker 5: the Cardinals the other day. 1158 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 2: Well, I know a lot of people ask you about 1159 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 2: Jordan Love and I have to do the same. Contractually 1160 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 2: obligated Wayne to talk about the quarterback because here he 1161 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,280 Speaker 2: is in year two as the full time starter. 1162 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 3: I know he had the injury. 1163 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in a moment, but what he's 1164 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 2: seeing from him in his development overall. 1165 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 5: He's becoming a little more assistant. And I'm speaking specifically 1166 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 5: of this year. He had a good training camp, a 1167 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 5: fine training camp, nothing spectacular, but you know how training 1168 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 5: camp is, and you don't know what you have until 1169 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 5: you get on the field in a regular season game. 1170 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 5: And his performance in Sal Paulo, Brazil was kind of 1171 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 5: it was fine, It wasn't great, but he wasn't as 1172 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 5: accurate as we were used to seeing him down the 1173 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 5: stretch a year ago. Then he ended knee injury missus 1174 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 5: two weeks, comes back, shakes off for US against the Vikings, 1175 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 5: and then has been getting better each of the last 1176 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 5: two weeks in terms of where he's delivering the football 1177 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 5: and that kind of thing. His accuracy much better. I 1178 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 5: think his confidence in his injured knee a whole lot 1179 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 5: better too. In the last couple of. 1180 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 2: Weeks, Wayne Laravie, Voice of the Packers with us what 1181 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,479 Speaker 2: about Malik Willis filling in for him and the way 1182 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur was able to coach his way through those victories. 1183 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 2: Discussed that a little bit because I was really impressed 1184 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 2: with the way the Packers handled their business with love out. 1185 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,840 Speaker 5: You know, that was impressive and certainly the coaching staff 1186 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 5: gets a lot of credit for it. But also, you know, 1187 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 5: Malik Willis is a pretty good talent. He has a 1188 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 5: nice arm, He throws a very catchable pass, and he 1189 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 5: has obviously the ability to make things happen outside the 1190 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 5: pocket with his legs. He is a potential dual threat 1191 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,879 Speaker 5: quarterback and they used him effectively that way. The best 1192 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 5: thing they did Mark was they didn't ask him to 1193 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 5: do anything he was incapable of doing. And you know 1194 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 5: the heavy run type of game against the Colts when 1195 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 5: they ran it fifty four times, and then the following 1196 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 5: week they started opening things up a little bit, not much, 1197 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 5: but a little bit, and they started passing more on 1198 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 5: early downs and Willis certainly was equal to the task 1199 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 5: each week. 1200 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about some of the pass catchers. 1201 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 1: Wainn because read Craft, Watson very impressive. 1202 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 3: What about this group overall? 1203 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: And Jacobs catches the ball out of the backfield as well. 1204 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, again, I think with the run 1205 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 5: heavy emphasis in the two games we just talked about, 1206 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 5: you don't have the numbers. These guys don't have the 1207 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 5: numbers others do around the NFL. But I think that's 1208 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,879 Speaker 5: going to change as we go forward. Watson was back 1209 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 5: that caught a big touchdown pass last week. Perhaps it 1210 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 5: has been a revelation looks a lot. It reminds me 1211 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 5: a lot of George Kittle. I'm not saying he's at 1212 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 5: that level, but he does a lot of things, like 1213 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 5: he can block in line, he can block downfield on 1214 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 5: a big run. He's become a very reliable receiver. He 1215 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,839 Speaker 5: gets opened, that kind of thing, very hard to bring 1216 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 5: down once he catches it. Reed is a playmaker out 1217 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 5: of the slot. And then Romeo Dobbs is kind of there. 1218 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 5: I really think he's more like a safety valve, especially 1219 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 5: in the red zone. He runs great routes, strong hands, 1220 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 5: that kind of thing. So that's the receiving core. Bo 1221 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,359 Speaker 5: Melton will be mixed in there, Malie Keith a little bit. 1222 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,839 Speaker 5: The guy they've had trouble getting on track is don 1223 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 5: Tavian Wicks. He's had drops this year, and he really 1224 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 5: is a kid who came on late last year. Caught 1225 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,240 Speaker 5: twenty nine of his thirty nine receptions in the last 1226 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 5: ten games last year. So obviously they're trying to get 1227 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 5: him on track because he can be a big play 1228 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 5: in this receiving course. Well, they haven't been able to 1229 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:19,800 Speaker 5: do that yet. 1230 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: All right, give me a couple of guys on defense 1231 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 1: that aren't really discussed much that don't get the publicity 1232 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 1: that some other members of the team do. 1233 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,400 Speaker 3: As the Packers have a pretty good defense. 1234 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and it's an evolving defense. It's a 1235 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 5: new system this year for this defense. They struggle to 1236 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 5: get consistent pressure on the quarterback. They don't sack the 1237 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 5: quarterback a whole lot, except for one game at Tennessee 1238 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,319 Speaker 5: when they had eight sacks. But you know, it's it's 1239 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 5: and again, like the rest of the team, I think 1240 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 5: they're evolving in this new defensive scheme and they'll be 1241 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,280 Speaker 5: better in the next several weeks than they are maybe 1242 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 5: right now. Some guys in the defense that you hear 1243 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 5: a lot about Xavier mc kenny and Jaiiere Alexander. Keyshawn 1244 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 5: Nixon has been kind of a quiet key. He's played 1245 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 5: some on the outside. He's their Nickel Carver corner, but 1246 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,880 Speaker 5: he's beneffective on the outside as they've had injuries out 1247 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 5: on the outside of their defense. So I think that's 1248 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 5: a guy you might want to keep an eye on. 1249 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 5: Evan Williams, the rookie's really emerging making turnover plays and 1250 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,359 Speaker 5: that's been something that's been worth watching. The steady guy 1251 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 5: in the linebacking corps. Isaiah mcduffy, second leading tackler. You 1252 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 5: know again, kway Walker is guys who potentially makes big plays. 1253 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 5: You know. Eric Wilson has been a solid pro Edgrin 1254 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 5: Cooper is a rookie who's starting to emerge out of 1255 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,839 Speaker 5: Texas A and M. And he's a guy they're looking 1256 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 5: forward to using quite a bit on the defensive line. 1257 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 5: Carl Brooks, nobody hears about him, but I'll tell you what. 1258 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 5: When he's in there, he makes plays. He's playing a 1259 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 5: lot more with the injury to defensive tackle Devontae Wyatt. 1260 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,760 Speaker 2: Wayne Laraview with us the voice of the Green Bay Packers. 1261 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 2: What is the relationship like between Matt Lafleur and the 1262 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 2: fan base in general? The general feeling of Packer nation 1263 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:03,800 Speaker 2: about the head coach. 1264 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 5: I think it's good. I mean, all Matt Lafleur has 1265 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 5: done here is win and now maybe not so much 1266 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,919 Speaker 5: in the playoffs, but he's actually made long playoff runs 1267 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 5: in the NFC Championship on a couple of occasions. And 1268 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 5: last year I think everyone came to realize how good 1269 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 5: a coach he is when all of a sudden, you 1270 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 5: didn't have the specter of Aaron Rodgers covering everything, and 1271 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 5: you saw what this team could do and what this 1272 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,400 Speaker 5: coach could do with a new quarterback. So been very positive. 1273 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 5: I'd have to say yeah, and. 1274 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,439 Speaker 2: I go back with him because he was a little 1275 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 2: kid at Central Michigan when I was there with his 1276 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 2: dad coaching the secondary of the Chippewas, so very familiar 1277 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 2: with Matt's career and he was here with the Texans, 1278 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 2: so we do follow him. Wayne, what about calling a 1279 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 2: game from Brazil? What was that experience like with the 1280 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 2: team going down there and doing that game with the 1281 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,320 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles. 1282 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 5: Well, it was a great experience, you know, to visit 1283 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,799 Speaker 5: that cun Tree and see that city. You know, it's 1284 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,399 Speaker 5: the fourth largest city in the world, and it takes 1285 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 5: a long time to get around that city. It took 1286 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 5: us two hours from the hotel in downtown salth Pollow 1287 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 5: to the game site, which is in the city limits 1288 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 5: of salth Pallo. Two hours with the police escort, winding 1289 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 5: through all kinds of different types of neighborhoods because they 1290 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 5: don't have the infrastructure, the highway infrastructure we have in 1291 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 5: this country. They just don't. And you know, you've got 1292 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,439 Speaker 5: twenty five million people. That are bigger city than any 1293 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 5: city in the US, and you don't have the ability 1294 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 5: to get around it the way we do so. And 1295 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 5: the other factor is the stadium was nice. It was wonderful. 1296 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 5: The field was a little slick in but that's on 1297 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 5: the NFL because they took care of the field and 1298 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 5: it just was a little slick for both sides. But 1299 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 5: I thought the enthusiasm of the fans of the game, 1300 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 5: the atmosphere is great. Unfortunately, our broadcast position, we were 1301 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 5: behind a plane of glass. We were in a glass 1302 00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 5: enclosed booth, so that wasn't so good. But otherwise it 1303 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 5: was great. 1304 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,920 Speaker 2: Where else have you been? You've been to London obviously, 1305 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 2: and I guess that's it. Have you been to Germany? 1306 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 5: Well, when I was with the Bears, we went to 1307 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,960 Speaker 5: a lot of places. We went to Germany, we went 1308 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 5: to Sweden, Gothenburg, Sweden for a game, London obviously, a 1309 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 5: couple of times, Ireland. You know, we've been. I've been 1310 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 5: all over the world of the NFL doing games. It's 1311 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 5: been it's been great in many respects. And you know, 1312 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,480 Speaker 5: the the international games are it's it's curious to what 1313 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 5: as to why they're putting these resources in there. But 1314 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 5: when you see the fan in the enthusiastic enthusiasm of 1315 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 5: the fans on game day, even though that country may 1316 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 5: not play American football, you know the enthusiasm for the game, 1317 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 5: certainly in Brazil and Europe and in London, and it's 1318 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 5: been palpable and that's why the league is there. 1319 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 3: What was your favorite place to go personally? 1320 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 5: Of those foreign trips, I would say would have been Berlin, Germany, 1321 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 5: because we were there right after the fall of the 1322 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 5: of the wall, of the Berlin Wall, and all of 1323 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 5: a sudden, East and West were coming together, and I 1324 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:12,440 Speaker 5: remember jogging past the wall and into what was then 1325 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 5: considered East Germany. It was like going from technic color 1326 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,560 Speaker 5: to black and white, and it was really stark to 1327 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 5: see the difference in the two cities. But I think now, 1328 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 5: obviously I haven't been back there since, but now I'm 1329 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 5: sure everything's fine. But Berlin was a beautiful city. It 1330 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 5: really is. 1331 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 2: Wayne Larvie with us the voice of the Green Bay Packers, 1332 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,440 Speaker 2: So you were the voice of the Bears, voice of 1333 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 2: the Packers, two oldest teams in the NFL. Everybody wants 1334 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 2: to go to Green Bay because it's the pilgrimage. It's 1335 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 2: such a historic place. What stadium do you really like 1336 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:43,960 Speaker 2: going to? 1337 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 1: What stadium kind of gives you makes the hair stand 1338 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 1: up on the back of your neck in a good way? 1339 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 5: Well, Green Bay number one. I love going to Chicago 1340 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:59,040 Speaker 5: for games, but the stadium's not very good. Denver is 1341 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 5: probably my favorite place to go because I just like Denver, 1342 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 5: Colorado and the mountains and you're right at the foothills. 1343 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 5: It's a neat place. The place it's the best to 1344 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 5: do a game in, in my opinion. I think the 1345 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 5: Metal Lands, I really do. And you know, the big 1346 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 5: the big air conditioner there in the Metal Lands. I 1347 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 5: just the sight lines are great. It's a great football stadium. 1348 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 5: You're you're you know, you may be up high, but 1349 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,440 Speaker 5: you're more on top of the action than you are 1350 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 5: in most places in the Meadowlands. A great atmosphere when 1351 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 5: especially if one of those New York teams is growing. 1352 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 2: All right, speaking of the Metal Lands, you could probably 1353 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 2: speak with some expertise on this. What do you make 1354 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,440 Speaker 2: of the Aaron Rodgers experiment with the Jets? Where do 1355 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 2: you think it's going from here? 1356 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 3: Wow? 1357 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 5: I think they had more more problems than just wide receiver. 1358 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 5: They can't they If they can't get that offensive line fixed, 1359 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 5: they're gonna have a lot of trouble. Aaron, I don't. 1360 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 5: It's what I've a little bit I've seen of him 1361 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 5: this year. I'm I'm not sure he's moving as well 1362 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,680 Speaker 5: as he once did. That could improve as we go along. 1363 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 5: He's coming off, but you know, an achilles injury. But 1364 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 5: I think that offensive line is going to be their 1365 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 5: undoing more than anything else. The defense is good as 1366 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 5: the manufac's better than it looks. It's better on paper 1367 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 5: than it looks on the field. Their defense, but I 1368 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 5: think really that offensive line that's going to be the problem. 1369 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 5: They have a good wide receivers, and I don't know 1370 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 5: why Wilson hasn't been dominating games like some of the 1371 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 5: others have. But so they bring in DeVante Adams and 1372 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 5: they take what to me looked like kind of a 1373 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 5: position of strength and made it stronger, but didn't solve 1374 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 5: what's really holding you back. 1375 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,040 Speaker 2: All right, Wayne, I've got one more for you. You did 1376 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 2: the Balls on TV, so you had Michael Jordan, you 1377 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 2: did Brett fav and the Packers. Aaron Rodgers and the Packers. 1378 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 2: So when you look at Rogers, farv Jordan, these great players, 1379 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,919 Speaker 2: team leaders, championship winners, is there a thread you see 1380 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 2: that runs through the great players that you've done games for. 1381 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,400 Speaker 2: Is there something that is in common with them? A 1382 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 2: common denominator if you will. 1383 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'd throw Walter Payton in there as well. 1384 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 5: You know, the common thread. Boy, there's a certain drive 1385 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 5: about each one of those guys. They might be the 1386 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 5: most talented player on their team. But the thing I 1387 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 5: always noticed about those guys, they're the hardest workers and 1388 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 5: far of especially late in his career. I mean, he 1389 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,120 Speaker 5: really poured himself into that position. Maybe early on he 1390 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,680 Speaker 5: was kind of the gunslinger type of guy and you know, 1391 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 5: having fun in the locker room and all that. By 1392 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,520 Speaker 5: the end of his career he was a worker. Jordan 1393 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 5: was always the one thing Jerry Krous, the late general 1394 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,440 Speaker 5: manager of the Bulls in those days, used to say, 1395 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 5: he said, you know, you can debate the greatest player 1396 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 5: of all time, but the greatest practice player of all time, 1397 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 5: there is no question. Michael Jordan, and you know Walter 1398 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 5: Peyton just he would not miss a game. And the 1399 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,720 Speaker 5: same thing with Jordan preseason game. Jordan would never miss 1400 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 5: a preseason game. There's no such thing as load management. 1401 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 5: His approach was, Hey, listen, somebody, some kid or somebody 1402 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 5: paid a big bunt money to come see me play 1403 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 5: and not to watch me sit on the bench. And 1404 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 5: that was the mantra. These guys were old school Aaron 1405 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,960 Speaker 5: Rodgers and he was like a surgeon. The way he 1406 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 5: would dissect defenses in his preparation for the game just 1407 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:29,840 Speaker 5: second to none. Those guys they play the game at 1408 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 5: a different level, they see it at a different level, 1409 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,919 Speaker 5: they approach it at a different level than everyone else. 1410 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,920 Speaker 5: And the other guy throw into that mix is the 1411 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 5: great Charles Woods and maybe the best football player I've 1412 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 5: ever been around. And he could play both sides of 1413 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 5: the ball. 1414 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 3: That is awesome stuff. Wayne, thanks so much for the time. 1415 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,560 Speaker 2: And I feel like sending that to every coach in 1416 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 2: the league, but I won't. I just want to send 1417 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,919 Speaker 2: it to my coach as But you described about Jordan 1418 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 2: as incredible, greatest practice player of all time. That's phenomenal, Wayne, 1419 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 2: Thanks so much. Look forward to the visit on Sunday 1420 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:02,280 Speaker 2: at lambeau Field. 1421 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's get together Mark all the best and look 1422 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 5: forward to seeing you guys up here. 1423 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 1: Can't wait, plea get a chance to shake Man's hand 1424 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,920 Speaker 1: and talk to him. I love Wayne Laravie. He is uh, 1425 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 1: He's such a great dude, and I'd love his voice. 1426 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:15,960 Speaker 5: You know. 1427 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,800 Speaker 1: My man is Mark for sure, but Wayne Laravy is 1428 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 1: number two. So it's like it's great hearing my numbers 1429 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,439 Speaker 1: one and two together right here on our air. Now, 1430 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 1: a guy that, depending on injury situation, we have to 1431 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 1: play linebacker on Sunday is Jake Hanson. Will he stepped 1432 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 1: in studio on Wednesday and chatty with Mark and myself. 1433 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 1: That's next on Texans All Access. It's happen everybody. Welcome 1434 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 1: back to Wednesday edition to Texans All Access. John Harris 1435 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 1: Football on a sideline reporter right here for your Houston Texans. 1436 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 1: It's time to talk to Jake Hanson, linebacker the West 1437 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 1: Coast of Florida playas college ball Illinois, came down here 1438 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: to Houston and has done a really nice job. We 1439 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 1: may end up seeing him on Sunday against the Packers 1440 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 1: because of some injuries at linebacker to both Henry Totoa 1441 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 1: and because he's al Shire. We'll see how that goes. 1442 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,720 Speaker 1: The rest of this week, but Jake filled in admirably 1443 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 1: on Sunday. No doubt he has played a lot of linebacker, 1444 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 1: played a ton of special teams. We always have a 1445 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,320 Speaker 1: great time with Jake Stepson's studio, but a final member 1446 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 1: of this team doesn't get talked about a lot. Jake 1447 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 1: Hanson with me and Mark. 1448 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 3: Let's go Jake Hanson in studio with us. 1449 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 2: All right, Jake, saw you out there against the New 1450 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 2: England Patriots on Sunday. 1451 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 3: Lots of action. How's it going for you so far? 1452 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 6: It's going good and we've had a good start to 1453 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 6: the year. Happy to be five and one with the 1454 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 6: team and uh rolling right now, so we feel pretty good. 1455 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 1: Jake, what's that linebacker room like with you know, add 1456 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:40,040 Speaker 1: disease to the mix? Del Shaun comes in, Jamal's drafted. 1457 01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:41,640 Speaker 1: What's the kind of linebacker room like with some of 1458 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 1: the additions you guys have. 1459 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,360 Speaker 3: Made, you know, Disease. 1460 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 6: I can't say enough good things about Disease and how 1461 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 6: he stepped up as a leader for us, and uh 1462 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 6: really just been a role model for everyone in the 1463 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 6: room and how to how to do things and how 1464 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 6: to carry yourself as a pro. So can't say enough 1465 01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 6: good things about his leadership, adding Dell Sean that's my guy. 1466 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 6: I played with him at Illinois, so right, Yeah, it 1467 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,439 Speaker 6: was a familiar over the place man. 1468 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, we get some a linea in here, so it's 1469 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:10,200 Speaker 7: been great. 1470 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 6: He adds a great guy, another great special teams player 1471 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,280 Speaker 6: and great linebacker as well, so great addition of the room. 1472 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,960 Speaker 7: And then scoobs at your young buck learning and growing. 1473 01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 7: He's gotten so much better too. 1474 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,280 Speaker 6: From the defense a special team standpoint, he's uh, he's 1475 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 6: making strides every day. 1476 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 7: So it's it's been fun to watch. 1477 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,080 Speaker 2: So, Jake, you're really good at special teams and you're 1478 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 2: really good at linebackers. So how hard is it to 1479 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 2: be really good at both and practice both the way 1480 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 2: you need to to be able to perform at a 1481 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 2: high level on Sundays. 1482 01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,960 Speaker 6: It's hard, it's but you know it's that's why they 1483 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:49,880 Speaker 6: pay us to play pro football, So it's something that 1484 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,680 Speaker 6: you know, I try to take pride in being a 1485 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:55,040 Speaker 6: good best teams player and special teams I think goes 1486 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,920 Speaker 6: like it's another level on top of all your defensive preparations. 1487 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 6: So defensive preparation takes a certain amount of time and 1488 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 6: then you kind. 1489 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:02,840 Speaker 7: Of just have to add on. 1490 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 6: It's not hey, you got to take less here more here, 1491 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 6: it's you can just have to add and continue to 1492 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,120 Speaker 6: do more preparation to be ready to go in on 1493 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 6: defense and play on special teams as well. 1494 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 2: Is there like a friendly competition with you and Neville? 1495 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:17,840 Speaker 2: Like who could be better at special teams? 1496 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 3: I want and I want this. 1497 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:20,800 Speaker 7: Stop orse of Coursey. 1498 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I tell them, hey, hold them up, I'll make 1499 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 6: the tackle, make a check a speed, I'll go make 1500 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:24,880 Speaker 6: the play. 1501 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:25,439 Speaker 3: Okay. 1502 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you because in the in the first 1503 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,160 Speaker 1: game that has had ever been played in the NFL 1504 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,600 Speaker 1: with the new kickoff rule, you make one heck of 1505 01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 1: a stop. 1506 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was a pretty healthy collision about healthy, 1507 01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 3: I mean probably not so much. 1508 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask your unhealthy what what what do 1509 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 1: you think about the kickoff rules? 1510 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 7: You know, after. 1511 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:52,400 Speaker 6: After the first one, like, uh, when I when we 1512 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,440 Speaker 6: crashed out a little bit, it was, uh, I don't know, 1513 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 6: I didn't look like I didn't love it from a 1514 01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 6: k R standpoint. It was taking a little bit long 1515 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,160 Speaker 6: to get used to as well, So at first I 1516 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,720 Speaker 6: didn't like it, but all my plays on special teams 1517 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,600 Speaker 6: so far has come on kickoff, So it's starting to 1518 01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,560 Speaker 6: growing me quite a bit and I'm starting to like 1519 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 6: get a good feel for it, and after a few 1520 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 6: weeks it's it's kind of it. 1521 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 7: It might be my new favorite. 1522 01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,800 Speaker 6: Teams because I've been able to factor the most on 1523 01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,200 Speaker 6: those plays. And I think our kickoff team is kind 1524 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,200 Speaker 6: of taking a different approach. We're forcing a lot of 1525 01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,479 Speaker 6: kicks and making guys block us. 1526 01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 7: It's hard to do. 1527 01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,840 Speaker 6: If KR is hard on the new I think it's 1528 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,040 Speaker 6: harder on kickoff return than it is on kickoff, So 1529 01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,360 Speaker 6: I think the kickoff team has an advantage forcing them 1530 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 6: to take it out. And because we're everyone's still trying 1531 01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 6: to learn the new blocking schemes and how to scheme 1532 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:41,639 Speaker 6: people love, and how to. 1533 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 7: How to block like the Patriots or just face up. 1534 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:45,640 Speaker 6: And then you have different teams that are trying to 1535 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,320 Speaker 6: do like pin and pool run style plays. So it's 1536 01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 6: just a lot of different learning And I'm sure next 1537 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,880 Speaker 6: year to the kickoff return will be a lot better 1538 01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,040 Speaker 6: and a lot harder, and they'll be better schemes. 1539 01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,320 Speaker 2: So, but you can't move if you're on kickoff return. 1540 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 2: You can't move until the ball is touched or hits 1541 01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 2: the ground, right, Yeah, so you look back, right, and 1542 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,680 Speaker 2: while you're looking back, that's a split second of time 1543 01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,240 Speaker 2: where you're not looking at the guy in front of you. 1544 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:10,519 Speaker 3: So how do you handle all of that? 1545 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 6: So that's like another different schematic thing, like some coaches are, hey, 1546 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,320 Speaker 6: don't look back, just look at your guy the whole time. 1547 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,480 Speaker 7: And that's like New England was that. 1548 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,760 Speaker 3: If he moves first, you're not violation. 1549 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,880 Speaker 6: Exactly right, And I guess you could have a little awareness, 1550 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,080 Speaker 6: but then once, once you're kind of getting ready to go, 1551 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,599 Speaker 6: you just face up like that's how New England plays. 1552 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 6: And then some other teams have done it as well, 1553 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 6: but we're hey, take a quick drop. So it's like 1554 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,160 Speaker 6: for us, it's a little bit more of hey, see 1555 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 6: the ball then and then get a quick burst flip 1556 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 6: to give yourself a little more time. 1557 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:47,679 Speaker 3: Jake can even win in New England. 1558 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,680 Speaker 1: I know you haven't been here for the seven contests 1559 01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,559 Speaker 1: prior to In fact, that was your first regular season 1560 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 1: game in New England, But were you guys aware of that? 1561 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:57,920 Speaker 1: To coach make you aware of that? And I know 1562 01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:59,240 Speaker 1: in the locker room you gave everybody of your game 1563 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 1: ball because it was the time that the organization won 1564 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 1: in New England. 1565 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,280 Speaker 3: But was that was that something. 1566 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 1: That you guys were aware of going to New England, 1567 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,479 Speaker 1: that being the first time, Hey let's get the first 1568 01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:08,080 Speaker 1: one in New England. 1569 01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:09,120 Speaker 3: Did you guys know that going in? 1570 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the whole team was aware, and it 1571 01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,559 Speaker 6: was something that we were kind of going into the 1572 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 6: practice week. We know we wanted to like That's what 1573 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 6: kind of drove us and motivated us that practice to 1574 01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:20,960 Speaker 6: get going was Hey, we got to go get a 1575 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,919 Speaker 6: first win in Foxboro, right and it was a great opportunity, 1576 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:26,800 Speaker 6: a lot of tradition in that stadium, So it's cool 1577 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 6: to get get a win there. 1578 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,639 Speaker 2: Jake Hanson with us, all Right, How strange is it, though, 1579 01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,760 Speaker 2: the last two years to be winning like this after 1580 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,479 Speaker 2: what you went through in twenty twenty two that was 1581 01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,520 Speaker 2: a rough season, went through a lot of bumps and bruises, 1582 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,760 Speaker 2: a lot of losses. But here you are last two years, 1583 01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 2: last year, make the playoffs, this year off to a 1584 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,520 Speaker 2: five and one start. How different is it the environment 1585 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,040 Speaker 2: and just working for Tamiko Ryans and making this kind 1586 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 2: of having this kind of success. 1587 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,880 Speaker 6: I would say there's a lot. It's a lot more 1588 01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,240 Speaker 6: positive energy in the building. 1589 01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:56,559 Speaker 1: You know. 1590 01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 6: It's and that starts with your head coach, Like he 1591 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,800 Speaker 6: sets a great positive tone. And I'm sure you guys 1592 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:03,720 Speaker 6: have heard he never coaches in negative He's trying to 1593 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 6: coach in positives all the time. So I think he 1594 01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 6: sets a great tone for our organization and how we're 1595 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 6: showing up the work and how everyone's just happy to 1596 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,599 Speaker 6: be here and having a lot of energy. And you know, 1597 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,840 Speaker 6: he promotes that and says like he wants energy, we 1598 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:22,640 Speaker 6: want to have that those big plays, And yeah, I 1599 01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,080 Speaker 6: would say it makes work coming a lot, coming to 1600 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 6: work a lot easier, you know, and it makes it 1601 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,880 Speaker 6: a lot more fun. It brings the fun back in 1602 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,639 Speaker 6: football when you're winning games and there's energy and everyone 1603 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,600 Speaker 6: wants to be here and everyone wants to put in 1604 01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:34,880 Speaker 6: the work. 1605 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,639 Speaker 7: So it makes a big difference for us. 1606 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,720 Speaker 1: So going to Lambo, trying to remember when was the 1607 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,599 Speaker 1: last time we were at Lambo for a preseason game? 1608 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,479 Speaker 3: Was that in twenty one? 1609 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:43,960 Speaker 5: One? 1610 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:44,479 Speaker 3: Yep? 1611 01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 1: So a have you ever played in Lamba B I 1612 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:49,439 Speaker 1: know we're not all the way through kind of the 1613 01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,120 Speaker 1: preparation for the Packers, but your thoughts about facing the 1614 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:53,040 Speaker 1: Packers at Lambo. 1615 01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,720 Speaker 7: No, I've never played in Lambo, so my first time. 1616 01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'm excited, real excited for a lot of 1617 01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,920 Speaker 6: tradition this at this stadium as well. You know, they're 1618 01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,200 Speaker 6: they're a great team, they have a great run game. 1619 01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,719 Speaker 6: They're obviously have one of the best quarterbacks in football 1620 01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,800 Speaker 6: as well, So there's gonna be a big challenge for 1621 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 6: us to stop both of those, right, you know, Josh 1622 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,559 Speaker 6: Jacobs great running back, and uh they have some good 1623 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,680 Speaker 6: weapons on the outside and Jordan Loves has been doing 1624 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 6: a great job getting them all the rock. 1625 01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,800 Speaker 2: So it is big ten country, and you're a big 1626 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,479 Speaker 2: ten guy, So how bizarre is it for you to 1627 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:33,400 Speaker 2: see USC Washington these weird big ten matchups. 1628 01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,360 Speaker 3: I'm still not used to it. I don't know how 1629 01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:36,200 Speaker 3: you feel, though, No. 1630 01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 6: It's it's a lot different mile line. I are going 1631 01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,040 Speaker 6: to Oregon, uhl at Oregon. 1632 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,960 Speaker 3: This year in AIG and a Big ten game. 1633 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:46,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, on the West Coast, and that's new, and I'm 1634 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:48,880 Speaker 6: I'll be quite honest, I'm happy I don't got to 1635 01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,599 Speaker 6: go play in the West Coast in some of those games. 1636 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,960 Speaker 6: Those are tough travel schedule for them, so but it's 1637 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,599 Speaker 6: it's different. I prefer the Big Ten West and the 1638 01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,519 Speaker 6: East and the winners of the West and in the 1639 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:01,760 Speaker 6: Big ten Chip and just. 1640 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,840 Speaker 7: Kind of how it was for a while. 1641 01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,200 Speaker 6: But it's new, and you know, it's a new age 1642 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,599 Speaker 6: of college football, so I'm sure it'll grow on me soon. 1643 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:13,840 Speaker 6: And even keeping up a college football now, it's starting 1644 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,080 Speaker 6: to grow on me a lot more. 1645 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,439 Speaker 7: Just a new it's not really power five. It's just you. 1646 01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 1: Know, it's a lot different when you were in college. 1647 01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,639 Speaker 1: I mean, your boys in Illinois playing well, I mean 1648 01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:27,000 Speaker 1: only only the one loss, have been playing very very well. 1649 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 1: They play Michigan this week games at Illinois. What place 1650 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,760 Speaker 1: did you enjoy going to the most when you were 1651 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,200 Speaker 1: playing at Illinois, Like what stadium did you or what 1652 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 1: environment did you enjoy the most? 1653 01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:39,600 Speaker 7: I always really like playing in Nebraska. 1654 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:40,439 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. 1655 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,479 Speaker 6: Nebraska was always a really a really cool because I 1656 01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:47,479 Speaker 6: played there my freshman almost freshman year. 1657 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,040 Speaker 7: I played there and I didn't. 1658 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,880 Speaker 6: Hear much about Nebraska or what it was gonna be like. 1659 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 6: And it's they sell out every freaking game. They fans 1660 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,759 Speaker 6: are honestly, the fans are great people. They just cheer 1661 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,240 Speaker 6: hard and they're all die hard Nebraska fans, so I 1662 01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:04,519 Speaker 6: feel like you can't really beat that. 1663 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,000 Speaker 7: The stadium's beautiful, a great stadium. 1664 01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 1: So, Jake, you're from the west coast of Florida. Did 1665 01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:10,839 Speaker 1: everybody make it to the hurricane? 1666 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:11,200 Speaker 3: Okay? 1667 01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:12,599 Speaker 7: Yeah, everyone was all good. 1668 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:16,840 Speaker 6: Appreciate you asking lost a little power for like, I think, 1669 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,639 Speaker 6: twelve hours, but that's not bad. 1670 01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:19,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, not bad at all. 1671 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,840 Speaker 6: Better than some of the people in Houston losing power 1672 01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 6: back when we had our little tropical storm hurricanes. 1673 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. 1674 01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,639 Speaker 1: We talked about this a little bit this summer, right 1675 01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,960 Speaker 1: after Texas traded for Steph. 1676 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 3: You and I talked and you said, yeah, yeah, I 1677 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:34,479 Speaker 3: worked out with him. 1678 01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't understand it what everybody was saying about this guy, 1679 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,280 Speaker 1: Like I watched this guy work out. He works out hard. 1680 01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,120 Speaker 1: You kind of had a front row seat of seeing 1681 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,000 Speaker 1: what Steph was all about when he got here. I 1682 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 1: know you don't want to share the whole conversation, but 1683 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,240 Speaker 1: what did you see in him that you thought, Yeah, 1684 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:48,400 Speaker 1: you know what this guy is gonna be. 1685 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,240 Speaker 3: He's gonna be one of us. So he's gonna fit 1686 01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:50,840 Speaker 3: in really well. 1687 01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,680 Speaker 6: I mean yeah, so yeah, I saw him in the 1688 01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,160 Speaker 6: in the off season, We're at the same training facility 1689 01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,880 Speaker 6: for a few days and everyone, I mean, you know 1690 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,000 Speaker 6: who Stefan Diggs is. 1691 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:04,640 Speaker 7: Like he's a big name in football, so I know 1692 01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,800 Speaker 7: who he is. And there's a I think there was 1693 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,479 Speaker 7: a the media kind of has given. 1694 01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,559 Speaker 6: Him a bad rap, at least the Buffalo media and 1695 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:16,759 Speaker 6: other organizations have kind of given him a bad rap. 1696 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,280 Speaker 6: But I mean, all I've seen from Steph is him 1697 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 6: coming to work every single day. And in our workout 1698 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,040 Speaker 6: it was that I think he was going to another 1699 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 6: workout later that day. 1700 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,920 Speaker 7: So it was like he's hitting two days. 1701 01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:31,639 Speaker 6: In March, and it's like I'm like grinding through one, 1702 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 6: trying to get through one, and I'm like, dang, So 1703 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,839 Speaker 6: these you could just tell he I mean, every aspect 1704 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:38,920 Speaker 6: of football in the preparation, he loves it and he's 1705 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:40,880 Speaker 6: trying to be the best version of himself. 1706 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,439 Speaker 7: That's why he's had the success he's had. 1707 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,160 Speaker 2: So all right, one more, I've promised Johnny to not 1708 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,559 Speaker 2: ask you about eighties movies this time. You are named 1709 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,920 Speaker 2: I know you're named after Jake Ryan and sixteen Candles 1710 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 2: and I can't get over that. But what are you 1711 01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,679 Speaker 2: watching these days? Anything interesting? On TV streaming whatever. 1712 01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,000 Speaker 7: My girl is on the is blind right now? 1713 01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:09,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, okay, whoa, whoa, whoa you say she's okay, 1714 01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,799 Speaker 8: that's a very convenient way she watches. 1715 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,240 Speaker 3: I watch a little bit every now. 1716 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,240 Speaker 6: But it's a good one that we watched recently. I mean, 1717 01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,200 Speaker 6: you can't think you can't go wrong with Ozarks. 1718 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:23,519 Speaker 7: We were on. 1719 01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,880 Speaker 6: We've finished up Ozarks recently. But yeah, it's a great one. 1720 01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,880 Speaker 1: That is not for the faint of heart though, that 1721 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:35,000 Speaker 1: is not for the very stressful. Jason Bateman that that 1722 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,160 Speaker 1: whole show is fantas does a great It made. 1723 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:38,639 Speaker 7: Me become a big Jason Bateman fan. 1724 01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,599 Speaker 6: I wasn't a huge fan of his, but after watching OKS, 1725 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,360 Speaker 6: I really liked him. And then it's another one on Hulu. 1726 01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,000 Speaker 6: It's all about Sea. I can't think of the name 1727 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,000 Speaker 6: right now. It's just like the c I A and 1728 01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,519 Speaker 6: uh Homeland. Homeland is a good one. Have you guys 1729 01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:52,920 Speaker 6: seen Home? 1730 01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:53,880 Speaker 3: Yea great. 1731 01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:55,080 Speaker 7: Homeland is really good. 1732 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,720 Speaker 1: Damian Lewis, Yeah, that's a good one, all right, Jake, 1733 01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:58,920 Speaker 1: that's a lot of good luck this week. 1734 01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:00,800 Speaker 7: Thank you, guys, appreciate the man. 1735 01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,000 Speaker 1: We love Jake. Mark and I are charter members of 1736 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,720 Speaker 1: the fan club for show. We like that guy. Man, 1737 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,240 Speaker 1: love the way he plays. He has been a final member. 1738 01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,360 Speaker 1: I loved him talking about kickoff. That was kind of interesting, 1739 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,040 Speaker 1: but man, I'm telling you he kind of chuckled and 1740 01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:17,240 Speaker 1: said that shot he took against the Bears and the opener, Wow, 1741 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 1: that was a shot. But either way, Jake doing some 1742 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,760 Speaker 1: great things for this team already and gotta do some 1743 01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,599 Speaker 1: on Sunday against the Green Bay Packers. Okay, speaking of Packers, 1744 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,200 Speaker 1: Drew Doerty and I talked a lot about that and 1745 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:34,439 Speaker 1: then some and what's the comparison to twenty twelve with 1746 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 1: this team. Drew and I talked about that on in 1747 01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,720 Speaker 1: the Lab. That's next the Texans All Access. We were 1748 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,640 Speaker 1: one final segment this Wednesday edition to Texans All Access 1749 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 1: before we turn it over to Area forty five right 1750 01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,880 Speaker 1: here on Sports Radio six ten. Appreciate you being with me. 1751 01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:52,040 Speaker 1: John Harris foot Planals sideline reporter for your Houston Texans. 1752 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,519 Speaker 1: It's time to go in the lab with my guy, 1753 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,679 Speaker 1: Drew Doherty. Let's do it right here as we discuss 1754 01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,880 Speaker 1: A eleven and twelve, twenty three and fourteen. There's a 1755 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,519 Speaker 1: lot of similarities and one really big difference here we go. 1756 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,679 Speaker 9: Hey, John, what's going on? You're doing all right? 1757 01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:09,280 Speaker 1: Doing? 1758 01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:09,639 Speaker 3: Okay? 1759 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:13,360 Speaker 1: Drew came home from Massachusetts with a win for the 1760 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,280 Speaker 1: first time in the writers Jesus, So that was cool. 1761 01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:16,760 Speaker 3: That was cool. That was awesome. Yeah. 1762 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,040 Speaker 9: So it's you and it's me. It's you watching or listening, 1763 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,120 Speaker 9: and we're appreciative of you watching and or listening. So 1764 01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,720 Speaker 9: if you're checking us out on YouTube, subscribe to this 1765 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,120 Speaker 9: YouTube page. Why haven't you already done that? If you 1766 01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,840 Speaker 9: haven't done that already, I mean you would a free Yeah, 1767 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,280 Speaker 9: you wouldn't just get reminders about this. You get the 1768 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:38,040 Speaker 9: iron sharpens iron. You get the Nick Cassario conversations every 1769 01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,240 Speaker 9: single week that he and I say he you and 1770 01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:43,960 Speaker 9: Mark Vandermer do, which is awesome. You get the head 1771 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:48,880 Speaker 9: coach talking with you two every single week. You get uh, oh, 1772 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,280 Speaker 9: I don't know, a cinematic recap after a win. You 1773 01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,760 Speaker 9: get the shuffle, you get the goat talk. I mean, oh, 1774 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,759 Speaker 9: you know, you know what's going on with goat talk. 1775 01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,840 Speaker 9: I don't mean to get two cross promotional here, But 1776 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:06,160 Speaker 9: we had Michael Irvin on last two weeks ago. We 1777 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:10,000 Speaker 9: had Chris Carter to start things off. The Big Aristotle 1778 01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,320 Speaker 9: was in the building and we just shot something with him, 1779 01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,799 Speaker 9: and yes, I'm talking about that Big Aristotle. 1780 01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:16,880 Speaker 3: For those that don't know Shaquille O'Neil. 1781 01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:17,679 Speaker 9: Shaquille O'Neil. 1782 01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,120 Speaker 1: Yes, he was in the cafeteria and it was just 1783 01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:25,559 Speaker 1: it was it was we'll walk in like that's that's 1784 01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:27,000 Speaker 1: shack Holy cow. 1785 01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:28,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, it was. It was pretty cool. We got 1786 01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:30,360 Speaker 3: Shaq Mason got a chance to meet him. 1787 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,080 Speaker 9: He did, Yeah, he did, and so did C. J. 1788 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:32,679 Speaker 3: Stroud. 1789 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,600 Speaker 9: And you're gonna hear and see that in about a 1790 01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,840 Speaker 9: month or so because next week we got Gary Kubiak's 1791 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:40,760 Speaker 9: Go Talk coming out, which was a really fun one 1792 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,040 Speaker 9: with and Andre Johnson and is a good power Jonathan 1793 01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,200 Speaker 9: Joseph do these things anyway, So that's neither here nor there. 1794 01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:47,920 Speaker 9: This Texans team is on a roll. And I was 1795 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:52,000 Speaker 9: thinking this morning, John, it reminds me so much of 1796 01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:56,720 Speaker 9: twenty twelve, but better because this quarterback is better. And 1797 01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,639 Speaker 9: back then you had a Pro Bowl quarterback and Matt 1798 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,320 Speaker 9: Shop that's a good thing, but this guy's even better. 1799 01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,599 Speaker 9: And it made me think we are in the good times. 1800 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,160 Speaker 9: It's like, what, Yeah, I know, the season's not over. 1801 01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:08,720 Speaker 9: I know there's still a lot to get to, but 1802 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,519 Speaker 9: the good old days, you know, you think about the 1803 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,360 Speaker 9: good old days when we're in right now, John, I mean, 1804 01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 9: you got it. There's no other way to put it. 1805 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,040 Speaker 9: There's no other way to put it. You're coming off 1806 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,680 Speaker 9: a playoff win, your four games over five hundred. You're 1807 01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,240 Speaker 9: going up to Green Bay to face a four and 1808 01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,320 Speaker 9: two team. This is the game of the week pretty much, 1809 01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:28,920 Speaker 9: two best records squaring off on Sunday. Most of the 1810 01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,080 Speaker 9: country is going to get to see it. It's the 1811 01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,200 Speaker 9: good old days right now. How sweet is that, dude? 1812 01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,160 Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's sweet, there's no question about it, 1813 01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:38,439 Speaker 1: I think, and we want more. 1814 01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is the good old days. I think 1815 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:42,719 Speaker 3: for some. 1816 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:47,639 Speaker 1: People that remember twenty twelve, it's like when twenty twelve 1817 01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,320 Speaker 1: is brought up, I think people think about how it 1818 01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:55,479 Speaker 1: ended started eleven and one, and then there's the Letterjacket game, 1819 01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,559 Speaker 1: their losses down a stretch. Now all of a sudden, 1820 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,559 Speaker 1: you got to play on walk Car weekend, when thought, man, 1821 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna get a buye and back then you had 1822 01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,400 Speaker 1: two buys, so you were going to get a bye 1823 01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,400 Speaker 1: and it just all fell apart. Now you ended up 1824 01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,600 Speaker 1: going to divisional round, but you end up losing to 1825 01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,320 Speaker 1: New England as opposed to having a bye and then 1826 01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:16,439 Speaker 1: playing somebody here. So I think for people that have 1827 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:20,920 Speaker 1: been following this team ardently since the beginning, or even 1828 01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,599 Speaker 1: since twenty twelve, whatever the case might be, I think 1829 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,519 Speaker 1: people have that reaction when they hear twenty twelve, and 1830 01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,920 Speaker 1: I kind of had a little bit of that reaction too, 1831 01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,080 Speaker 1: But then you think about things that are different, and 1832 01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,640 Speaker 1: obviously the biggest difference is Matt was at the end 1833 01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:41,760 Speaker 1: of his run, he was physically not where he had been, 1834 01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:46,920 Speaker 1: and I think for that big reason that was kind 1835 01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,439 Speaker 1: of the struggle of twenty twelve. Teams start breaking out 1836 01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,400 Speaker 1: physically a little bit, and I know we're right in 1837 01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:53,200 Speaker 1: the midst of that. 1838 01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:54,160 Speaker 3: Kind of injury season. 1839 01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm kind of coining it injury season from like weeks yeah, 1840 01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,240 Speaker 1: guys to like week eleven. 1841 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:01,759 Speaker 3: The injury report should you have two pages? 1842 01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,840 Speaker 1: As I said to Nick the other day, So it's 1843 01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:10,400 Speaker 1: tough to kind of go, oh, it's similar, But I 1844 01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:14,559 Speaker 1: think this team having CJ. Strad at quarterback is a big, 1845 01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,960 Speaker 1: big difference. And let me recaliber we'll go from there, 1846 01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:17,880 Speaker 1: you're going have a good point. 1847 01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,960 Speaker 9: So when I say that, I'm thinking of, oh, twenty 1848 01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,880 Speaker 9: eleven happened, and you did all those great things, but 1849 01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:26,880 Speaker 9: you did it with a quarterback. 1850 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:27,879 Speaker 3: Who was in TJ. Yates. 1851 01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,240 Speaker 9: He was a fifth rounder, he was you were kind 1852 01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:33,680 Speaker 9: of piecing things together. You had that ferocious defense, still 1853 01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,680 Speaker 9: the best defense the Texans have ever had, and the 1854 01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,240 Speaker 9: expectations coming into twelve were very very high, just like 1855 01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,960 Speaker 9: the expectations coming into this season were very very high. 1856 01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,200 Speaker 9: And then the start to that season in twenty twelve 1857 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,920 Speaker 9: was astounding, eleven and one. You got to the sun 1858 01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,760 Speaker 9: set on Thanksgiving Day and the Texans were ten and one. 1859 01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:57,479 Speaker 9: It was bananas and Arian Foster krack in a thousand, 1860 01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:02,240 Speaker 9: Andre Johnson went for fifteen hundred. The defense was good 1861 01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,160 Speaker 9: and JJ Watt was a comet, but there were some 1862 01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,080 Speaker 9: cracks in the foundation that that got exposed in December. 1863 01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:12,200 Speaker 9: But it feels like the early part of that season 1864 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,639 Speaker 9: when things were rocking and rolling, and then when Cushing 1865 01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,719 Speaker 9: got hurt, it all sort of changed things, but Sexon 1866 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,160 Speaker 9: still found ways to win. But this feels in the 1867 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:25,400 Speaker 9: good ways, like twenty twelve at the start and you're right, 1868 01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:27,840 Speaker 9: you need to recalibrate and you need to reframe that, 1869 01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:29,280 Speaker 9: because that's way I'm thinking that people are. 1870 01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,400 Speaker 3: Like, you're yeah, You're like, no, I understand they lost. 1871 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,240 Speaker 1: I know that because in twenty twelve you ended up 1872 01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:38,280 Speaker 1: having that big win at Chicago on Sunday Night. You 1873 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:42,120 Speaker 1: had those back to back wins where Andre was incredible 1874 01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:46,120 Speaker 1: against the Jaguars and the Lions, and you go you 1875 01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:48,160 Speaker 1: go into that mini bye or you come out of that, 1876 01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,559 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you go into the mini bye weekend, the 1877 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:54,000 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving weekend and you're like, whoa, Okay, we got a 1878 01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,200 Speaker 1: mini by and then we've got all the way till 1879 01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,280 Speaker 1: Monday night we play the Patriots, and then it's it's 1880 01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,759 Speaker 1: like this excitement and build up, like Okay, this franchise 1881 01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,800 Speaker 1: is really you know, gotten to the got into the 1882 01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,040 Speaker 1: big time. And I think there are there are just 1883 01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,559 Speaker 1: too many people that remember that that instance, and you 1884 01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:13,840 Speaker 1: know then what happens after that that they gloss over 1885 01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,760 Speaker 1: the win over the Broncos in twenty twelve, which was 1886 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,880 Speaker 1: such a great win because it was beating Peyton Manning 1887 01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:24,080 Speaker 1: and that was that had been unthinkable really while he 1888 01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:29,400 Speaker 1: was in Indianapolis and so but you're right, and it's 1889 01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,519 Speaker 1: it's so interesting how the two years of eleven and 1890 01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:36,240 Speaker 1: twelve kind of mirror right now twenty three and twenty four. 1891 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:41,360 Speaker 1: So there there is probably for those fans and people 1892 01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,160 Speaker 1: that remember a little trepartation like okay, you know, can 1893 01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:45,280 Speaker 1: this team stay healthy? 1894 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:46,599 Speaker 3: What's the next step? 1895 01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:48,280 Speaker 1: And I think the biggest thing people have got to 1896 01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:54,639 Speaker 1: realize is that I think personally this team, twenty twenty 1897 01:24:54,640 --> 01:25:01,040 Speaker 1: four team is deeper and maybe at its top, maybe 1898 01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:06,360 Speaker 1: deeper in the elite player category two now when everybody's 1899 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,360 Speaker 1: healthy and that, but that also was the key here, 1900 01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, how how guys stay healthy. And we came 1901 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,639 Speaker 1: out of Sunday and we saw A Z's get banged up. 1902 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,160 Speaker 1: We saw Henry take a big shot on the sideline 1903 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,160 Speaker 1: and was down for a bit. And those two linebackers 1904 01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,519 Speaker 1: have played I think every snap for you Drew in 1905 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,679 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, so you have to avoid those injuries. 1906 01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,200 Speaker 1: And you mentioned the big one and and I've always 1907 01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:31,479 Speaker 1: said this about Cush for whatever people wanted to say 1908 01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:35,360 Speaker 1: about Cush and you know, Maynac animal whatever, I felt 1909 01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,519 Speaker 1: like Cush gave this team its soul. 1910 01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,519 Speaker 3: I felt like he was the soul of. 1911 01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:44,040 Speaker 1: This team that he recognized when he needed to go 1912 01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,439 Speaker 1: into cush mode and kind of get everybody's attention, and 1913 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,800 Speaker 1: that I think that was, you know, even all the 1914 01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:51,479 Speaker 1: way through the rest of his career, even after he 1915 01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,559 Speaker 1: was banged up. But when he goes down in that 1916 01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,080 Speaker 1: Jets game, I just remember everybody going back to the 1917 01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,760 Speaker 1: locker room after the win and he's on crutches and 1918 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,200 Speaker 1: he's greeting everybody, and I just remember thinking, Damn, that's 1919 01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:06,280 Speaker 1: gonna hurt badly at some point, and. 1920 01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,400 Speaker 9: Because it was really tough because you bring up that 1921 01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,519 Speaker 9: aspect of him, you know, the heart and soul stuff. 1922 01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,360 Speaker 9: But in twenty eleven and through those first four games 1923 01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,280 Speaker 9: to change, yeah, he was. He was the team MVP 1924 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,880 Speaker 9: in twenty eleven, I mean, and he was a phenomenal 1925 01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:25,360 Speaker 9: defender in twenty twelve at the start. And you lose 1926 01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:29,720 Speaker 9: both those things after you'd traded the Miko Ryans that 1927 01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,479 Speaker 9: offseason before, right, so then you're relying on Brady James, 1928 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:33,680 Speaker 9: who was at the end of his career. He had 1929 01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,439 Speaker 9: been a fine linebacker in the NFL, but he was 1930 01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:37,360 Speaker 9: a little bit older. You had to pull guys off 1931 01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,439 Speaker 9: the street and bear it rude, right, you had to 1932 01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,880 Speaker 9: get Darryl Sharpton going, and it just caught up. 1933 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,920 Speaker 3: With you, you know exactly. And that's and I think 1934 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,120 Speaker 3: that's the you know, you want. 1935 01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:51,160 Speaker 1: To draw parallels in some sense, you know, disease is 1936 01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:55,520 Speaker 1: kind of that that that soulful piece for this team. Yeah, 1937 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,880 Speaker 1: and yeah, he's a captain and I think he has 1938 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,320 Speaker 1: meant so much to this team. Now obviously plays a 1939 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,839 Speaker 1: little different than Cushion, just there's a big size difference 1940 01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:03,720 Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. 1941 01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,720 Speaker 3: But that I think you can draw parallels there. 1942 01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:08,559 Speaker 1: And it's like, man, I just keep my fingers crossed, 1943 01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:10,560 Speaker 1: like god, dang, it's a knee, just like Cushions is 1944 01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:11,960 Speaker 1: a knee, and like, okay. 1945 01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:12,240 Speaker 3: There can't. 1946 01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:15,559 Speaker 1: They're crazy similarities that hopefully aren't going to end up 1947 01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,639 Speaker 1: being true. But again you go back to the fact 1948 01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:25,439 Speaker 1: that you know seven is a quarterback and everything. You know, 1949 01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,880 Speaker 1: he can't go out and cover a receiver. He can 1950 01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, set the edge in the run defense. But 1951 01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,960 Speaker 1: when players at those spots end up making those mistakes, 1952 01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,160 Speaker 1: because invariably they're going to happen, he can then erase 1953 01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,960 Speaker 1: them by coming back and having a seventy five play drive, 1954 01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,519 Speaker 1: hitting a sixty seven yard bomb like he did de 1955 01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:46,040 Speaker 1: Nico and the Bills game. He can erase those mistakes 1956 01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,479 Speaker 1: just with his play, and it is just that much 1957 01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:52,519 Speaker 1: more paramount to keep him upright and healthy and keep 1958 01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,479 Speaker 1: him from taking shots. And this is a defense this 1959 01:27:55,520 --> 01:28:00,240 Speaker 1: week against the Green Bay Packers that they're they're out 1960 01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:02,240 Speaker 1: upfront and they're gonna get their shots. 1961 01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,040 Speaker 3: And so that offensive line has really got a hold. 1962 01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,960 Speaker 1: Up because he is. He is the key difference in 1963 01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,639 Speaker 1: these two teams. That makes twenty three twenty four different 1964 01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,360 Speaker 1: than eleven and twelve. And look, you know you had 1965 01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,960 Speaker 1: the success in eleven and twelve. There was this kind 1966 01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,679 Speaker 1: of in eleven, it was this joy of oh my god, 1967 01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,479 Speaker 1: look at what this team's doing Coylake last year. 1968 01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:23,960 Speaker 3: And I think in twenty twelve. 1969 01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,559 Speaker 1: The thing about this season was because they beat the 1970 01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,320 Speaker 1: Broncos as handily as they did up in Denver, I 1971 01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:31,800 Speaker 1: think it had a little different feel. 1972 01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,439 Speaker 3: They had that big victory up front. Then they ended up. 1973 01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, losing the Packers, okay, but they had that victory 1974 01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:39,760 Speaker 1: against the Broncos, so that kind of buoyed people, and 1975 01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:40,880 Speaker 1: then they had didn't lose again. 1976 01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:41,760 Speaker 3: Then they beat the. 1977 01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:43,800 Speaker 1: Bears on Sunday night, so I think people were like, oh, yeah, 1978 01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:47,320 Speaker 1: this team is definitely for real. But then you know 1979 01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:51,320 Speaker 1: Matt's you know health in a sense started just you know, dissipating, 1980 01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:52,479 Speaker 1: and we know the rest of the story. 1981 01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:53,680 Speaker 3: So hopefully this. 1982 01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:59,040 Speaker 1: Team is it's mixed differently, it's mixed differently, and that 1983 01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,840 Speaker 1: they have some grizzled vets, but yet it's still at 1984 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,320 Speaker 1: its core a pretty young team. So we'll see how 1985 01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:10,120 Speaker 1: it ends up going. But but you're right, the looking 1986 01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:13,559 Speaker 1: at five and one like this is only happened one time. 1987 01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:15,320 Speaker 1: How many how many years we've been a franchise, it 1988 01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:17,799 Speaker 1: means our franchise eligible to drink now are we beyond 1989 01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,160 Speaker 1: twenty one years? I think we're twenty two years now, 1990 01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:23,599 Speaker 1: so we've only been five and one one at a time. 1991 01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:24,960 Speaker 3: That's twenty twelve. 1992 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,280 Speaker 1: So I mean, man, I think a lot of people 1993 01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,320 Speaker 1: around this building will tell you, yeah, we haven't played 1994 01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,519 Speaker 1: our best game yet. We played well, you know, and 1995 01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,519 Speaker 1: played well a lot of the times, but we really 1996 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,000 Speaker 1: haven't hit our our stride yet. So hopefully it happens 1997 01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:38,680 Speaker 1: in Lambeau because this would be a big one on 1998 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:40,000 Speaker 1: the road, all right. 1999 01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:44,200 Speaker 9: It's time to bring in our pal macho Man, Randy 2000 01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,920 Speaker 9: Savage to talk about a cream of the crop. 2001 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:47,960 Speaker 1: The cream of the crop. 2002 01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:51,160 Speaker 9: Thank you, Macho Man, cream of the Crop award winner. 2003 01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:55,240 Speaker 9: So if the Texans are flying south on Sunday afternoon, 2004 01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:59,320 Speaker 9: Sunday evening with a victory and they're at six and one, 2005 01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:04,200 Speaker 9: it will be because this guy and this guy were 2006 01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,879 Speaker 9: Cream of the Crop award winners, cream of the crop players. 2007 01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:11,200 Speaker 9: I'm gonna go with Will Anderson Jr. That's not that's 2008 01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:16,400 Speaker 9: not a real uhsotic pick, but man three sacks last 2009 01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:21,559 Speaker 9: week and Demico Ryan's not challenging but not prodding, but 2010 01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:24,240 Speaker 9: kind of mentioning, Hey, how about we do it again? 2011 01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,360 Speaker 9: How about we keep this going? You know, when the 2012 01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,440 Speaker 9: coaches show with you and in the press conference and whatnot, 2013 01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:33,120 Speaker 9: I could see Will Anderson sort of heating up. He 2014 01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,360 Speaker 9: talked about how he's, you know, working on some things 2015 01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,360 Speaker 9: and figuring things out and you know, diversifying as a 2016 01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:42,280 Speaker 9: pass rusher and maybe simplifying as a pass rusher at 2017 01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:45,600 Speaker 9: the same time. Let's see him keep getting out. I 2018 01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,559 Speaker 9: mean eight total tackles, four of them for a loss, 2019 01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,479 Speaker 9: three sacks, the batted pass that led to the interception 2020 01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:53,160 Speaker 9: by Eric Murray, which was a hell of a pick 2021 01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:54,920 Speaker 9: and you'll had a fun time talk with him and 2022 01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:58,120 Speaker 9: n D. Kalu yesterday about that. But anyways, give me 2023 01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:01,720 Speaker 9: Will Anderson Jr. I want to see the Terminator keep 2024 01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,599 Speaker 9: playing the way he plays because they're gonna get tested, 2025 01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:06,400 Speaker 9: Like you've mentioned, they're gonna get tested by the Green 2026 01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:09,040 Speaker 9: Bay offense. They're on the road. Should be a fun one. 2027 01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:11,960 Speaker 9: It's gonna be nice, man, It's gonna be nice, nice afternoon. 2028 01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:15,000 Speaker 9: It's gonna be like Houston seventy two, Sonny. At least 2029 01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:19,200 Speaker 9: that's what the the Apple iPhone this weather things. 2030 01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:21,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully that way. 2031 01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:23,720 Speaker 9: Let me let me go with Will Anderson. Who you 2032 01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,120 Speaker 9: have as you're a Cream of the Award winner. 2033 01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:30,479 Speaker 1: So in most things football, you know when you name 2034 01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:33,040 Speaker 1: like an All American team, you've got first team, second team, 2035 01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,040 Speaker 1: third team. Yes, I'm gonna do that really quick, just 2036 01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,519 Speaker 1: because there were two names that immediately popped him mind. 2037 01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,559 Speaker 1: And then there was one and his name has actually 2038 01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,479 Speaker 1: been mentioned earlier in this show that I'm gonna use 2039 01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:44,759 Speaker 1: as my first team, but my third team and second 2040 01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,240 Speaker 1: team are Kaylen Bullock and Jalen peatree. Okay, I think 2041 01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,200 Speaker 1: that Jordan Love is gonna want to take shots down 2042 01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:50,639 Speaker 1: the field. 2043 01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:52,160 Speaker 3: That is gonna be Kaylen Bullock. 2044 01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,120 Speaker 1: And I think Jalen's got to play a little bit 2045 01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:57,160 Speaker 1: better in coverage and be a little stickier in coverage, 2046 01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:01,040 Speaker 1: especially that he was against New England because you got 2047 01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,400 Speaker 1: to keep chating the pecher in a field and at 2048 01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:05,320 Speaker 1: times because the position he plays is gonna have to 2049 01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,320 Speaker 1: end up one on one. Well, that's gonna be one 2050 01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,160 Speaker 1: on one against probably Jayden Reid, and Jaden Reid is 2051 01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:14,360 Speaker 1: one of the best inside slot, dynamic, explosive receivers that's 2052 01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:17,400 Speaker 1: in the league. But my All American, my first team 2053 01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,680 Speaker 1: cream of the crop All American is going to be 2054 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:21,599 Speaker 1: Shaq Mason. 2055 01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:22,400 Speaker 3: Okay. 2056 01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:26,439 Speaker 1: And I picked Shack kind of as a representative of 2057 01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:29,720 Speaker 1: the offensive line, but I thought the offensive line did 2058 01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,360 Speaker 1: some better things the other day. I don't think Shack 2059 01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,599 Speaker 1: has played his best ballgame this year, and this would 2060 01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:37,759 Speaker 1: be the time to do it because he's facing Kenny 2061 01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:41,719 Speaker 1: Clark Devonte Wyatt. He's facing some dudes, and they're different 2062 01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:43,920 Speaker 1: kind of dudes. Clark is kind of a bigger, thicker, 2063 01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:45,880 Speaker 1: stronger manchild. 2064 01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,839 Speaker 3: Wyatt is kind of a little. 2065 01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:52,559 Speaker 1: Quicker, So it's a good mix for the Packers of 2066 01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,080 Speaker 1: quickness and strength and two different guys. 2067 01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:57,080 Speaker 3: Shaq's gotta be able to handle that. 2068 01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:58,639 Speaker 1: I mean, you could throw Kenyan and Green in there 2069 01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:02,879 Speaker 1: as well, but I think Kenyan shown at times some growth. 2070 01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,320 Speaker 1: I think Shack needs to play that kind of game 2071 01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,080 Speaker 1: this week against the Packers that the Texas thought they 2072 01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,320 Speaker 1: were getting last year when they got him here, and 2073 01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:14,639 Speaker 1: that he's capable of playing. He's got to play that game. 2074 01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,160 Speaker 1: He's got to keep those into your guys off a CJ. Stroud, 2075 01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:19,360 Speaker 1: and they got to be able to make blocks up front, 2076 01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,760 Speaker 1: whether it's running power and he's leading, or he's down 2077 01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:26,000 Speaker 1: blocking on power towards him, or they're running zone and 2078 01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,920 Speaker 1: he's able to wipe out those guys in the zone game. 2079 01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:30,880 Speaker 3: Shack Mason is my cream of the Cropper. 2080 01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,840 Speaker 9: Drew fitting that you choose Shack Mason in a week 2081 01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:38,120 Speaker 9: in which he gets to see Shack Shaquille O'Neal. He 2082 01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:41,400 Speaker 9: knows Shaquille O'Neil. Yeah, they've met before. But we got 2083 01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:43,880 Speaker 9: a nice photo of that Zach Tarrant did earlier in 2084 01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,080 Speaker 9: the weekend. It'll come out in time you'll see that, 2085 01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:49,519 Speaker 9: but I like it. Little Blue Trenches love today. Yeah, 2086 01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,640 Speaker 9: both of us absolutely cream of the Crop award winners. 2087 01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:56,000 Speaker 9: It's it's exciting, man. Whether it's twenty twelve or twenty 2088 01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:59,200 Speaker 9: four or twenty eleven or whatever, your team is, four 2089 01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:02,040 Speaker 9: games above five one hundred, they're very very good. Good 2090 01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:05,320 Speaker 9: things are projected. These are the good old days. Don't 2091 01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:05,840 Speaker 9: forget that. 2092 01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:08,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with Drew. These are some fun days, and 2093 01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:12,960 Speaker 1: sometimes we have to step back from our daily discussion 2094 01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:16,120 Speaker 1: and go, yeah, man, this is fun. We got a 2095 01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:20,519 Speaker 1: really good football team because for three years we didn't 2096 01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:23,559 Speaker 1: really Let's be honest, it was tough times, but we 2097 01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:26,080 Speaker 1: got through it and hopefully we'll play some good football 2098 01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:29,519 Speaker 1: on Sunday and throughout the rest of the twenty four seasons. 2099 01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,439 Speaker 1: So I definitely appreciate Drew for stopping by giving that 2100 01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:36,240 Speaker 1: perspective on in the lab, and that was really really fun. 2101 01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:41,240 Speaker 1: Wayne Larvie longtime voice the Green Bay Packers, nineteen nineties 2102 01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:46,200 Speaker 1: Bulls as well as the nineteen eighty five Bears. Man 2103 01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:50,120 Speaker 1: that guy has called some games in his career. But 2104 01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:54,160 Speaker 1: appreciate Wayne Love hearing his voice on here. Appreciate Mark 2105 01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:57,880 Speaker 1: as always Nick Caserio stopped by. That was really really cool. 2106 01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:01,120 Speaker 1: He does it every week with us. It's always it's 2107 01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,400 Speaker 1: always fun, it's always a blast. He always humors me 2108 01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:07,360 Speaker 1: with all my questions and of course marks as well, 2109 01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:10,040 Speaker 1: but mainly mine because mine are always kind of out there. 2110 01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,040 Speaker 1: So I appreciate Nick for being out there. Appreciate you guys. 2111 01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:17,400 Speaker 1: You guys are always here for us. Thank you so very much. 2112 01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:19,040 Speaker 1: We got plenty of the rest of the week. We've 2113 01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:22,040 Speaker 1: got John McClain coming on tomorrow. That's gonna be a 2114 01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:24,320 Speaker 1: fun time. We should also have an assistant coach too, 2115 01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:27,439 Speaker 1: not sure totally just yet, but we should have assistant 2116 01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:29,680 Speaker 1: coach on with us tomorrow, so we have that to 2117 01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:31,680 Speaker 1: look forward to. Friday's show. Then we take off for 2118 01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:34,240 Speaker 1: Green Bay and take on the packers, and I get 2119 01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:37,400 Speaker 1: a little family reunion in the process, So that's gonna 2120 01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:40,000 Speaker 1: be a fun time as well. The funnest time is 2121 01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,120 Speaker 1: gonna be beating the packers. We've got a few days 2122 01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:44,439 Speaker 1: to prepare to get ready for the packers up in 2123 01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:46,960 Speaker 1: Green Bay, but it's gonna be fun. CJ. Stravers, Jordan 2124 01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:51,040 Speaker 1: Love Texans v Packers, Nance Romo Tracy on the call 2125 01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:54,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be awesome, so get it ready for them. 2126 01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:57,040 Speaker 1: We'll see tomorrow everybody, and as always, go Texans.