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Speaker 1: Burrow in about seven to eight minutes stops by. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, I just saw a stat that the

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Speaker 1: Lakers Russell Westbrook is the least guarded guard in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: that teams essentially don't guard him and beg him to shoot.

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Speaker 1: He's also simultaneously shooting fifteen and a half percent from

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Speaker 1: over two games of any Laker ever. And one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons I go to therapy and married a woman

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Speaker 1: that pushes back is that if therapy was a stock,

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Speaker 1: you'd essentially be buying self awareness, that you get an

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Speaker 1: honest set of eyes and ears on your personality in

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Speaker 1: your problems. And my wife's very good at that. She

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Speaker 1: does a lot of therapy. Is that because most of us,

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Speaker 1: even successful people who have good lives, what initially helps

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Speaker 1: us becomes a burden or a hindrance. And Westbrook's a

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Speaker 1: prime example of this. Westbrook was always hyper athletic, and

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Speaker 1: though a lot of people doubted him, he never doubted himself.

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Speaker 1: He had this single mindedness and this belief in himself,

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Speaker 1: and it's why he's going to end up a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer. He's really one of them most willful players

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Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, UCLA couldn't figure out how

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Speaker 1: to use him. People couldn't figure out is he a

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Speaker 1: two guard? Now he can't shoot? Is he a point guard? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he's not naturally a great ball hand that he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have, as you well know if you watch him,

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Speaker 1: he didn't have great hands. But he's a great athlete

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Speaker 1: and he willed himself to a Hall of Fame career.

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Speaker 1: But now it's hurting him. Magic Johnson said this on

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Speaker 1: a recent interview with Shannon Sharp of FS One. Magic said,

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Speaker 1: you got to own your stuff. You can't keep blaming

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Speaker 1: the media and the fans. I don't think it's in him.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's within what Russell Westbrook's personality is

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Speaker 1: that what made him a Hall of Fame level player

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Speaker 1: is now a hindrance. Is that he is so singular

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Speaker 1: minded that and his belief in himself is so strong

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Speaker 1: he can't acknowledge weakness. And listen, I loved Kobe Bryant,

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Speaker 1: but he was the most driven human being arguably in

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Speaker 1: the league's history. And in the end he broke up

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Speaker 1: Shack and Lakers and Kobe and Phil. He pissed everybody off.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's a really valuable lesson. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I love Lebron. But the greatest stat with Lebron ever,

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Speaker 1: is that from his junior year to his senior year

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Speaker 1: in high school, he only averaged one more point a game. Now,

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Speaker 1: think about that, Lebron average like twenty four points a

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Speaker 1: game as a junior and twenty five as a senior.

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Speaker 1: I think those are the numbers. You don't think he

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Speaker 1: could have averaged fifty. But Lebron has always been about

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Speaker 1: elevating others. That's why he's a great teammate. But he's

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Speaker 1: also never been confrontational. He's never swung a punch, he's

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Speaker 1: never gotten involved in a fight. He's an ultimate peacemaker

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Speaker 1: and it actually hurts him. Now he's not confrontational with Westbrook.

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Speaker 1: Kobe would be, Michael would be, Bird would be, it's

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Speaker 1: not magic would be, it's not in Lebron's makeup. And

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Speaker 1: so it's why you need people to push back. I mean,

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Speaker 1: look at Tom Brady. He is so driven that it's

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Speaker 1: now blowing up his marriage. You know he is, He's

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Speaker 1: forty five. There's nothing to accomplish. I mean, I liked

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Speaker 1: satisfied with it. Leaving is the goat. But I just

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Speaker 1: you get rich, something that elevates you actually later becomes

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Speaker 1: a bit of a problem. And it's why it's really

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Speaker 1: important to surround yourself with people that ask tough questions,

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Speaker 1: that hold you accountable, that don't say yes all the time.

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Speaker 1: Second thought, so when the Name Image Likeness Law was

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Speaker 1: passed and you could pay college athletes, it was a

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Speaker 1: by the ncble A. And you know, this happens in technology,

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Speaker 1: It's an avalanche. It's out of control. So the NIL

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Speaker 1: it wasn't intended to buy high school players, but that's

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Speaker 1: what happened. Texas A and M was at the forefront

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Speaker 1: of that buying. I trust my sources, multiple high school

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Speaker 1: players for seven figures. Now the program's blowing up that

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Speaker 1: you have multiple freshmen Reportedly they were smoking pot in

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Speaker 1: a loose, undisciplined mess, and that's why there is a process.

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Speaker 1: Two things I've always said about the name, image, likeness, legislation,

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Speaker 1: be only for players who have been in your program

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Speaker 1: for at least a calendar year. High schoolers don't get it,

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Speaker 1: and freshmen don't get it that a player has to

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Speaker 1: their final two, three or four years at school they

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Speaker 1: can be compensated. Okay, So that means even if you

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Speaker 1: want to be sneaky to a high schooler, you still

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Speaker 1: can't pay him for over half a year. Or over

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Speaker 1: and a half from the day he signs or orally

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Speaker 1: or verbally commits. So the Texas A and M issues

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Speaker 1: schoolers seven figures, you think you may have an issue,

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Speaker 1: you think you may have some entitlement or egos. Eventually,

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Speaker 1: the name image likeness will settle down, just like the

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Speaker 1: transper portal, and college football will be fine. But it

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Speaker 1: was a very obvious problem the NC double A, although

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Speaker 1: decade about paying athletes, they didn't have the right leadership.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden it's introduced and legalized and they

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Speaker 1: can't get their arms around it. But slowly and surely,

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Speaker 1: as we predicted, the borders will close a little bit.

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Speaker 1: There'll be limitations, rules, caps and nil should be for

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Speaker 1: people that have already put at least a year on

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Speaker 1: your campus man, woman, any sport, and they become productive

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I wouldn't put I wouldn't put limitations

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Speaker 1: even the NFL's got trading deadlines and salary caps, it's

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Speaker 1: okay if they don't get paid as juniors or seniors

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Speaker 1: in high school. So Aaron Rodgers came out on his

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Speaker 1: He's been honest about taking a psychedelic t He's honest

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Speaker 1: I mean I would be more political. If I was

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Speaker 1: I would fall on the sword. You know, I'd blame myself.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the better way to grow. But that's

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Speaker 1: not who Aaron is. You know. He doesn't sacrifice a

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Speaker 1: lot in his life. He's thirty eight, rich, never married,

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Speaker 1: And I will say this, quarterbacks come in all different

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Speaker 1: twenty two and a half miles per hour down there

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Speaker 1: and making tackle after tackle, and we kind of figured

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Speaker 1: he was going to be a pretty good player. He's

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Speaker 1: a smaller player. When you attack Cleveland, Miles Garrett maybe

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Speaker 1: the best defensive player in the league. They have great corners.

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Speaker 1: Take me through without giving up game plan secrets in

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Speaker 1: the games against Cleveland. When a team has elite corners

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Speaker 1: and I think they're really good, are you a stayaway guy,

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Speaker 1: a challenge guy? Where do you go on that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean those The duo that they have on the

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Speaker 1: outside is one of the best in the league. They

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Speaker 1: got Davian Clowney and Miles Garrett both on each side.

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Speaker 1: So those guys have been top top pass rushers in

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Speaker 1: the league for the last five years, and so you

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Speaker 1: always have to be aware that those guys are going

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Speaker 1: to erect the game at some point if you let them,

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Speaker 1: And so you gotta chip them, you gotta get the

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Speaker 1: ball out quickly. But you know the guys I have

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Speaker 1: on offense, I'm not going to be afraid to challenge

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Speaker 1: any corn the league on outside. This week's Gold Medal

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Speaker 1: San Francisco picked up another weapon, a toy Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 1: headed to the Niners. The Niners are all in San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: has no idea what the future holds with quarterback trade lance,

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Speaker 1: but they clearly think they can win a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: with Jimmy g and this roster. With Brady and Rogers

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Speaker 1: struggling and aging, the NFC's wide open, and now the

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Speaker 1: Legacy goal dot com. So here we are. We're seven

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Speaker 1: weeks in. You played your best football game. Your defense

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Speaker 1: is the most underrated in the league because you don't

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Speaker 1: have a ton of Pro bowlers. But like everybody can ball,

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Speaker 1: everybody can play like you face that. How often do

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Speaker 1: you face your defense and practice ones on ones during

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Speaker 1: the season. Not at all. But training camp is always

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Speaker 1: always a battle. Okay, explain that. Not at all. No,

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Speaker 1: not during the season. On the bye week, I think

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Speaker 1: we get some seven on seven, but you want you

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Speaker 1: don't want to. You only get a certain amount of

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Speaker 1: reps during the week because it's such a long season.

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Speaker 1: You want to keep your bodies fresh, and so you

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Speaker 1: don't want to I don't want to say waste, but

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Speaker 1: you don't want to waste reps that you could be

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Speaker 1: getting against the scout team who's running the defense that

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Speaker 1: you're going to be facing on Sunday, when you're you're

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Speaker 1: going against your defense that you're not going to be

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Speaker 1: facing on Sunday. And so you never want to want

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Speaker 1: to waste those reps. Do you guys, what's the rule

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Speaker 1: in the NBA on physical contact and pads during the season.

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Speaker 1: You can have one one padded practice a week and

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Speaker 1: then I think starting week twelve or thirteen, there's no

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Speaker 1: more padded practices something like that. Go back fifteen years

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00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: in football it was, it was completely different. Do you

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Speaker 1: feel the league takes better care of you? Absolutely? And

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Speaker 1: I mean my body. Zach and our coaching staff and

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Speaker 1: our strength staff do a great job of, you know,

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Speaker 1: using the using the data, using the science, and you know,

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Speaker 1: altering practice here and there for for certain reasons. If

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Speaker 1: guys have played, you know, a ton of steps on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll have an extra walkthrough period here or there.

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Speaker 1: And so they do a great job of that. All right. Finally,

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Speaker 1: you're pretty good on style. I'm not. I'm from Seattle.

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Speaker 1: I hate the Seahawks bright green uniforms. I'm a blue guy.

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Speaker 1: I think they're classy. I think they're traditional. But I

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Speaker 1: like the Bengals all whites. Yeah, if I said to you,

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Speaker 1: give me three uniforms in the NFL you think are tight,

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Speaker 1: you can't use the Bengals. But you literally think that's

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Speaker 1: a good looking. That's a good looking setup. Well, obviously,

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Speaker 1: I have to say our new uniforms are awesome. I've

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Speaker 1: always liked the forty nine ers uniforms. Those are just

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Speaker 1: classic Saints uniforms, you know, I was a Saints fan

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Speaker 1: growing up. Those those are those are sick. And I've

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Speaker 1: been liking the Dolphins lately. The Dolphin blue. Yeah, pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Now there's got to be one you're not into. I'll

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Speaker 1: just say it right now, Jaguars doesn't work for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I apologize. I agree with that. I can

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Speaker 1: agree with that. You know what it feels like to

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Speaker 1: me like an alternative league, like it should have. It

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Speaker 1: would have been great in the USFL, Right, it just

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Speaker 1: feels alternative. I like their old uniforms. What were those

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Speaker 1: back with David Gerard and those guys. Do you ever think,

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Speaker 1: you know Aaron Rodgers, California guy, Like, there's not a

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Speaker 1: lot of New Yorkers that become great NFL quarterbacks. It's

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Speaker 1: a lot of regular kids. Do you ever think to yourself, God,

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Speaker 1: what if I'd grown up a surfing in Malibu? H?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's you know, your upbringing has

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Speaker 1: everything to do with your character. And a lot to

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Speaker 1: do with your mental toughness. I think the more adversity

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Speaker 1: and the more structured and the more discipline your life has,

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Speaker 1: the better you're going to turn out in the long run.

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Speaker 1: And I think it really has a correlation with quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: because that's I mean, that's what the position is. It's leadership,

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Speaker 1: it's being able to bring people together, it's taking care

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Speaker 1: of your own business, and it's not being a distraction

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Speaker 1: off the field. And so that's you got to have

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Speaker 1: all your your keys and cues and all that real tight,

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Speaker 1: because otherwise it's gonna end up showing up on the field.

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Speaker 1: You know, Brady barks and Brady has been barked at.

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Speaker 1: You're not a big barker. How do you deal with

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Speaker 1: being barked at? I just think that, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: can deal with it. I'm a person that doesn't mind

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Speaker 1: being coached that way. But I think there's a more

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Speaker 1: effective way to coach, and there's more effective ways to

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Speaker 1: get information across than than yelling. So I've never been

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Speaker 1: one to do that. You you know, as a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you got to understand all of your guys that are

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Speaker 1: on the team and in the locker room and understand.

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Speaker 1: You know, how you talk to one person, you might

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Speaker 1: not be able to talk like that to another person

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Speaker 1: in the locker room. And you got to really understand

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Speaker 1: the people so you can bring the most out of them.

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Speaker 1: How do you learn that? You got to spend time

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Speaker 1: with them. You gotta suit different people in the lunch room,

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Speaker 1: talk to different people on the field, and a byproduct

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Speaker 1: of doing that is become very close and create a

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Speaker 1: lot of new friends that you wouldn't have before and

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Speaker 1: make the locker room a much more friendly and closer environment.

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Speaker 1: How's Jamar respond? What's the best way to talk to him?

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Speaker 1: You just talk. I mean, he's a really smart football player,

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Speaker 1: so he's just going. I mean, we're really good friends.

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Speaker 1: We're not what's understood doesn't need to be said between us.

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00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: We give each other a look like, hey, that was

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Speaker 1: my bad, and we both know the look. If he

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Speaker 1: thinks he needs to get the ball a little bit more,

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Speaker 1: he'll give me a little look. We trust each other

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Speaker 1: enough that if we need to say something to each other,

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Speaker 1: we definitely will. And there's been multiple times and he

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Speaker 1: comes up to me he's like, hey, I'll give me

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Speaker 1: the ball a little bit and we have that trust

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Speaker 1: that that never goes the wrong way. Do you I

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Speaker 1: think about this, do you ever feel like during a game,

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Speaker 1: wow a tease, I'm not giving him looks? Do you

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Speaker 1: not that you would force it? Not that maybe guilt,

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Speaker 1: But are you ever in a game thinking, God, I've

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Speaker 1: just literally ignored him for two quarters? Um? No, not really.

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Speaker 1: And that's what's great about I Mean, we have three

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Speaker 1: number one receivers and none of them really care about that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, they want

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Speaker 1: some touches in their yards, but they never show it

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Speaker 1: on their face. They never, you know, say anything about it.

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Speaker 1: Because I think that they know that they have the

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Speaker 1: trust in me to read the defense and get the

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Speaker 1: ball where it's supposed to go. And in the end

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Speaker 1: it's going to even out. You know, one game, Jamar

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Speaker 1: is gonna have a big game, and then maybe the

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Speaker 1: next game the defense is trying to take that away,

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Speaker 1: and so T will have a big game, and then

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Speaker 1: maybe another the middle of the field is open because

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00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: they're worried about those two guys on the outside, and

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Speaker 1: and TV will will have a big game like like

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Speaker 1: last one. And so they have that trust in me

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Speaker 1: that they know the ball is going to go where

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00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: it's supposed to. Do you feel that Zack Taylor doesn't

585
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: have to coach you as much now it's three years together.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like sometimes you look at them and go,

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00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: I got this. I know what you're gonna say. Yeah,

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00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: we know. We know it well enough by now. You know.

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00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: He's he's great at understanding that. You know, I put

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Speaker 1: a lot of work in and I go out there

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00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: and make a check. Maybe it doesn't work, and we

592
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: come off and talk about it like men and understand

593
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: where we could get better than next time. And so

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Speaker 1: he does a great job of communicating the information in

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Speaker 1: a professional way. Give me the similarity or biggest difference

596
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: your dad zac as a coach? You know, if I

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Speaker 1: really don't know how my dad was as a coach,

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Speaker 1: he didn't really bring that home. Uh. He was a

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00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: dad first, and you know, I didn't really see that

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Speaker 1: side of him much. I was around the program, but

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Speaker 1: I didn't see that side too much. Joe Burrow, good

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Speaker 1: seeing you, Congrats, good luck against the Brownies. Yes, sir,

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