WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 081322 The Mistreatment of Black Women (Part 1)

0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of Civic Cipher. I am your host,

0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Ramsey's Jah.

0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.200
<v Speaker 2>He is ram Jah, I am q Ward. You are

0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:12.639
<v Speaker 2>listening to Civic Cipher. Back to do it one more

0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:13.280
<v Speaker 2>time for you.

0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:17.599
<v Speaker 1>Uh, We've got some interesting things to talk about, a

0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.479
<v Speaker 1>lot to stick around for, so do just that. Today

0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:24.800
<v Speaker 1>we're going to be talking about black women, specifically the

0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:30.080
<v Speaker 1>mistreatment of black women and how there are some things

0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:35.199
<v Speaker 1>that you may not know, some consistencies with respect to

0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:40.280
<v Speaker 1>that specific experience that you may not have insight into.

0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:42.879
<v Speaker 1>And it's not just complaining, it's not you know, there's

0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.559
<v Speaker 1>stories there, and we also have some examples as well,

0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.879
<v Speaker 1>And we also want you to know that it's not

0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.360
<v Speaker 1>just me and Q rattling this stuff off. Our producer

0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:55.120
<v Speaker 1>is Maggie aka Maggie B. Knowen has given us this

0:00:55.200 --> 0:01:03.120
<v Speaker 1>script and so her input will be felt throughout today's discussions. Also,

0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:05.520
<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about I want to spend some

0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.280
<v Speaker 1>time talking about voting in midterm elections. There's a lot

0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:09.959
<v Speaker 1>of crazy stuff going on in the world right now

0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.080
<v Speaker 1>that you may not know about as well, and so

0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:19.760
<v Speaker 1>we want to kind of tell you some things, some deep,

0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.800
<v Speaker 1>dark secrets you may not be aware of so that

0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:26.880
<v Speaker 1>you can remain motivated and hopefully motivate other people to

0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.960
<v Speaker 1>take action, people in your circle, people that you work with, whatever,

0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:34.240
<v Speaker 1>people that care about people, so that we don't let

0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.280
<v Speaker 1>this moment pass us by, because in my belief, we're

0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:41.280
<v Speaker 1>on the cusp of things going really one or two ways.

0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:46.840
<v Speaker 1>So again, a lot to stick around for. And oh,

0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.360
<v Speaker 1>before I forget, we're also going to be talking about

0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.279
<v Speaker 1>the roots of house music. You know, it's the release

0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:57.160
<v Speaker 1>of Beyonce's new album and Drake's new album. Well, house

0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:58.920
<v Speaker 1>music started with black folks. We're going to talk about

0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that as well. But first and foremost, let's talk about

0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.520
<v Speaker 1>some abny excellence. How does that sound? Shall we shall? So?

0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.079
<v Speaker 1>Today's abny Excellence is brought to you by Hip Hop

0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Weekly Media. The story comes via Black Enterprise. So meet

0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Lilian Lincoln Lambert, the first black woman to receive a

0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Harvard NBA. Lincoln Lambert received a Master of Business Administration

0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.240
<v Speaker 1>for Harvard from Harvard in nineteen sixty nine, used it

0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.760
<v Speaker 1>to carve a career path for other black women to excel.

0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Forbes reports, the author, public speaker, and entrepreneur in the

0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.280
<v Speaker 1>building maintenance industry grew her business to more than twelve

0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:42.880
<v Speaker 1>hundred employees in six states and twenty million dollars in

0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.360
<v Speaker 1>revenue before selling it. Today, Lambert is a public speaker

0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:50.720
<v Speaker 1>focusing on the power of persistence, resilience, courage, and morality,

0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and the hurdles that prevent people from reaching their full potential.

0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Using the power of storytelling, Lambert inspires her audiences to

0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:02.880
<v Speaker 1>dream big, act bold, and pave their paths and pave

0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.760
<v Speaker 1>their paths sure. One of the things Lambert tells her

0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.400
<v Speaker 1>audience is that she focuses on three important steps. So

0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.880
<v Speaker 1>if you got your pens, phones, whatever, make some notes,

0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.680
<v Speaker 1>because this is an amazing person with an amazing story

0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that we can all learn from. Number One, learn as

0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:20.040
<v Speaker 1>much as you can. The better prepared you are, the

0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.680
<v Speaker 1>more leverage you'll have in negotiations to create a blueprint

0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.680
<v Speaker 1>of your goal. This will help you focus and create

0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:31.000
<v Speaker 1>a manageable strategy. Three, don't let fear paralyze you from

0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:35.600
<v Speaker 1>going after what you want. The world teaches us in

0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:40.240
<v Speaker 1>subtle ways, in particular black women oftentimes that are not

0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:44.480
<v Speaker 1>capable or doesn't show many examples of black women excelling,

0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.040
<v Speaker 1>So that's very important. In a final note here women

0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:51.320
<v Speaker 1>don't need to be afraid to step out and allow

0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.840
<v Speaker 1>themselves to make mistakes. Lambert said, don't be intimidated by

0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.200
<v Speaker 1>men or people that think they're smarter than you. Most

0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.160
<v Speaker 1>of the time they're not as smart as they think

0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:04.200
<v Speaker 1>they are. Well said and true in my experience, certainly so,

0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:08.360
<v Speaker 1>once again, shout out to Lillian Lincoln Lambert, today's have

0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:16.719
<v Speaker 1>any excellence now black women. Mistreatment of black women, who

0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, if you're listening to this show,

0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:30.479
<v Speaker 1>I think you know that black women kind of have

0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.080
<v Speaker 1>it the hardest. You know, imagine being born a woman,

0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:39.039
<v Speaker 1>which in a lot of people's you certainly socially progressive

0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:46.320
<v Speaker 1>intellectuals estimations, a lot of those folks consider women to

0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:51.320
<v Speaker 1>be regarded as second class citizens in even advanced modern

0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:58.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, societies, progressive societies, if you will, Women make

0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:04.279
<v Speaker 1>less money, women have less opportunities, et cetera. Right, But

0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.400
<v Speaker 1>the same holds true in this country and globally for

0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:14.960
<v Speaker 1>black people. And so if you're born a woman and black,

0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I've heard it stated that you are born with two

0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:22.600
<v Speaker 1>strikes against you, and then you're expected to get out

0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:24.560
<v Speaker 1>there and make a go of it. Now, this isn't

0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.880
<v Speaker 1>all doom and gloom because on this show we celebrate

0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.599
<v Speaker 1>black girl magic as often as we can, and we

0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:37.120
<v Speaker 1>recognize that black women have overcome a tremendous amount. Right,

0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:42.760
<v Speaker 1>black women are more educated than ever, more educated than

0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.640
<v Speaker 1>black men, I think, the most.

0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.839
<v Speaker 2>Educated, more educated than every Yeah.

0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.200
<v Speaker 1>The most educated group. Yeah, I remember we did that show.

0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to requote the statistics, but I know

0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.640
<v Speaker 1>that Black women are excelling in terms of education. And

0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:59.599
<v Speaker 1>then lots of areas, but the reality is still that

0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:05.719
<v Speaker 1>there's a long road to travel before there is a

0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:12.720
<v Speaker 1>real sense of equity and equality. There are just some

0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.800
<v Speaker 1>areas that you know, black women have managed to make

0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:22.840
<v Speaker 1>some strides. And it's interesting because you know, before we

0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.480
<v Speaker 1>get into today's stories, I want you to know how

0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:31.520
<v Speaker 1>we think about this topic. And I'm gonna speak for Q.

0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't like to do that, but hopefully it's okay.

0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:45.400
<v Speaker 1>In this one instance, we love everyone. We recognize that

0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:49.480
<v Speaker 1>everyone is valuable. We are all. We all exist as

0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:53.760
<v Speaker 1>a result of the same creator, regardless of who you

0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:57.960
<v Speaker 1>consider that creator to be. We are all expressions of

0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a similar consciousness, and we have a finite amount of

0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:07.000
<v Speaker 1>time in our relatively insignificant place in the universe. Right,

0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.800
<v Speaker 1>we make a big deal out of ourselves because our

0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.760
<v Speaker 1>biology compels us to do so. But the fact is

0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.840
<v Speaker 1>is that we really need each other. So in this

0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:24.000
<v Speaker 1>celebration of black women, we need to make sure that

0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:33.720
<v Speaker 1>the people who have the hardest time recognize a that

0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:35.560
<v Speaker 1>that shouldn't be happening to them. But I think I

0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:40.240
<v Speaker 1>take it a step further and say that in this time,

0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I'll speak for me, and if you disagree to you, you

0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.800
<v Speaker 1>can certainly jump in there. But my belief is that

0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.320
<v Speaker 1>the black woman is as close to God as any

0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:52.840
<v Speaker 1>of us will ever see on this planet, in this realm,

0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and in this time. So the reason I say that

0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:02.200
<v Speaker 1>is because the first one was black. For those familiar

0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.920
<v Speaker 1>with science and that go down those rabbit holes like

0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I do you know, look up mitochondrial Eve, the mother

0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.200
<v Speaker 1>to us all, we're all related to this one woman

0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.000
<v Speaker 1>who lived in Africa many years ago, and this was

0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:19.200
<v Speaker 1>a black woman, human woman, and we all have her

0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.920
<v Speaker 1>encoding in us. And so when I say the black

0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.360
<v Speaker 1>woman is the closest expression to God that we'll ever see,

0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:32.160
<v Speaker 1>that is based on science meeting what we know to

0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:39.880
<v Speaker 1>be well established in Christian religion as close to fact

0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:41.599
<v Speaker 1>as we're going to be able to say. You know,

0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm paying a compliment of course, but you know, there's

0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:49.640
<v Speaker 1>also an element of truth there, and it's very unfortunate

0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:55.280
<v Speaker 1>that black women have to endure such a challenging reality

0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.160
<v Speaker 1>when this is the mother of all of us, the

0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.439
<v Speaker 1>mother of civilization. You know, I've said it before on

0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:05.520
<v Speaker 1>the show that my belief is that black women are

0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the most beautiful expression of human beings, older black women.

0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:12.920
<v Speaker 1>That's the most beautiful expression of a human being that

0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I've seen in my life. And funnily enough, the second

0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.600
<v Speaker 1>most beautiful expression of a human being I've found is

0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.400
<v Speaker 1>an Asian man who is also older. I just think

0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.360
<v Speaker 1>that's a beautiful thing to look at. You know. So

0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:31.360
<v Speaker 1>while I am very much an advocate for black people,

0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm black myself, I have black children, you know, and

0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I live a very black life. I will be fair.

0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:39.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, what I see is what I see, and

0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:41.920
<v Speaker 1>what I know is what I know, And so hopefully

0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that lends a bit more credibility and you can see

0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.880
<v Speaker 1>that there's a bit of an unbiased approach to the

0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:53.160
<v Speaker 1>things that I say about black women than being beautiful certainly,

0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.720
<v Speaker 1>and later in life that's gorgeous to me. And again

0:09:56.760 --> 0:10:02.040
<v Speaker 1>back to black women being the closest that we'll ever

0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:07.840
<v Speaker 1>see to God. Now wait before I before I move on,

0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I kind of spoke for you. I don't want to.

0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to leave you. There is there anything

0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.000
<v Speaker 1>you got to add or you want to adjust anything?

0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I said? You know, now's the time to do it.

0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.720
<v Speaker 2>No, no, proceed, Okay, all right, very good.

0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Now let's talk about black women and how black women

0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:24.199
<v Speaker 1>are treated. So the topic given to us by H.

0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Maggie b. Knowan is the mistreatment of black women. Charges

0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:34.120
<v Speaker 1>finally filed against some officers in the murder of Brionna Taylor.

0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:38.720
<v Speaker 1>And you know, the foremost question there is what took

0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:48.120
<v Speaker 1>so long? And why really was this not pursued initially

0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and immediately? So I'll read a bit. This comes from time.

0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.320
<v Speaker 1>So for Bonna Taylor's supporters, justice finally came in the

0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:03.040
<v Speaker 1>form of a federal civil rights case. Four officers involved

0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.120
<v Speaker 1>in the March twenty twenty police raid they killed Brionna

0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Taylor were arrested by the FBI Thursday. Three of them

0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.840
<v Speaker 1>are charged with violating Taylor's civil rights which carries a

0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.800
<v Speaker 1>maximum of life in prison if convicted. The raid on

0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Taylor's Louisville apartment was the result of lies. The federal

0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.040
<v Speaker 1>indictment alleged a warrant for the no knock warrant raid

0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.480
<v Speaker 1>that led to Taylor's death should never have been granted,

0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and Breonna Taylor should be alive today, said US Attorney

0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:35.320
<v Speaker 1>General Merrick Garland. For Taylor's family and her supporters in Louisville,

0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:39.320
<v Speaker 1>the Department of Justice announcement was the beginning of justice

0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.200
<v Speaker 1>that they believe had been denied to them. Only one

0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.439
<v Speaker 1>officer involved in a twenty six year old black woman's

0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.400
<v Speaker 1>killing was charged under Kentucky law, and he was acquitted

0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:51.320
<v Speaker 1>at trial. Quote. I've waited eight hundred and seventy four

0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:56.200
<v Speaker 1>days for today, Tamika Palmer, Brianna's mother said, and her

0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:59.600
<v Speaker 1>quote continues. Today's overdue, but it still hurts. They shouldn't

0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:06.000
<v Speaker 1>have been there, and Brianna didn't deserve that. Now. I'm

0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.800
<v Speaker 1>not going to hash out who Breonna Taylor was because

0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.320
<v Speaker 1>my assumption is that you wouldn't know. We talk about

0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.199
<v Speaker 1>her a lot on the show, and of course, if

0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.320
<v Speaker 1>you were alive and breathing, in twenty twenty. That is,

0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:20.079
<v Speaker 1>perhaps right after George Floyd, perhaps the most shouted name

0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:25.360
<v Speaker 1>on the streets during all the protests. So, if you

0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:26.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know, and on.

0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Television and television and radio and social media and.

0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Social media arrest the cops that murdered Breonna Taylor, I

0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:40.800
<v Speaker 1>think that was a popular meme sort of thing that

0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:44.840
<v Speaker 1>took place at that time as well. Now, if you

0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know the whole story, please look it up. It's

0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.600
<v Speaker 1>worth looking up and then you'll find out exactly how

0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.240
<v Speaker 1>she was treated. And we did an episode on this

0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:58.080
<v Speaker 1>as well as almost collateral damage. You know, the police

0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.400
<v Speaker 1>have to get the bad guy, which we're in the

0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.880
<v Speaker 1>wrong place and there was no bad guy there, but

0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.280
<v Speaker 1>their approach to it was like, well, well, it's just

0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of the cost of doing business. Sometimes you get them,

0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.160
<v Speaker 1>sometimes other people die. And that cavalier attitude toward a

0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:16.640
<v Speaker 1>woman's life, we believe only happens when the woman is

0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:21.120
<v Speaker 1>black and does not have a high profile, you know,

0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.400
<v Speaker 1>not a celebrity, you know, those sorts of things. Have

0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:31.760
<v Speaker 1>this been Gabby Potito and the police raided the wrong

0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:35.079
<v Speaker 1>house and killed Gabby Patito, you know, blond haired, blue

0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:40.199
<v Speaker 1>eyed white woman. There wouldn't have even been the need

0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:43.640
<v Speaker 1>for an outcry because they would have owned it the family.

0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, this would have been handled privately, quietly, and

0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.320
<v Speaker 1>there wouldn't have you know, they would have acknowledged, hey,

0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.160
<v Speaker 1>this is a mistake, rather than that's just kind of

0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.320
<v Speaker 1>the cost of doing business. Right, So that shows you

0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the value of black life. And today we're talking about

0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:59.880
<v Speaker 1>black women's lives. So obviously people were very upset by that.

0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.880
<v Speaker 1>National protest erupted and the rest is history now as

0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:09.040
<v Speaker 1>far as those protests are concerned. We were out on

0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:13.959
<v Speaker 1>the streets right and we had a chance to see

0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the amount of signage, the amount of support. You know,

0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:23.720
<v Speaker 1>this was a national moment and movement. And then as

0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:28.160
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned the social media that followed that, you know,

0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:31.320
<v Speaker 1>you remember the the videos that used to come up

0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:35.280
<v Speaker 1>on social media where people would start by telling this

0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the beginnings of like a prolific story or profound sort

0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.280
<v Speaker 1>of whatever, and then right in the middle they'd switch

0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.280
<v Speaker 1>gears and be like, arrest the cops.

0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Conclusion, right, like the moral of the of every story,

0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.400
<v Speaker 2>no matter what he had started so, was to arrest

0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.280
<v Speaker 2>the cops that murdered Brehonna tangle.

0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Right, So I think it's important to mention that that

0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:03.680
<v Speaker 1>for the those people that were in that moment standing

0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:08.000
<v Speaker 1>in solidarity with black people, that were doing their best

0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:12.000
<v Speaker 1>to feel the pain that black people were feeling and

0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:17.800
<v Speaker 1>to help us to deal with the amount of hopelessness

0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.720
<v Speaker 1>and the amount of frustration and the amount of you know,

0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:22.880
<v Speaker 1>all those feelings that black people were feeling in that time,

0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:27.000
<v Speaker 1>not just by you know, acknowledging it, but no coming

0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.400
<v Speaker 1>out on the streets, standing with us, sharing on social media,

0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:35.160
<v Speaker 1>bringing attention to the fact that these injustices are unfortunately frequent.

0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.960
<v Speaker 1>These just happened to time out in such a way

0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.160
<v Speaker 1>to where it was sort of a perfect storm. George

0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Floyd was already hot, but an issue COVID happened, people

0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.080
<v Speaker 1>weren't at work, everybody could get outside, you know, that

0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:50.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. But for those people that acknowledged this

0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:54.360
<v Speaker 1>with us, I think it's important for us to say

0:15:54.360 --> 0:16:00.400
<v Speaker 1>that we commend you, and we're still working to bring

0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:06.200
<v Speaker 1>attention to these stories and to make the world a

0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.600
<v Speaker 1>better place. This is the purpose of this show. But

0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.840
<v Speaker 1>today we're talking about the fact that it took where's

0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:17.760
<v Speaker 1>that number eight hundred and seventy four days or charges

0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:23.000
<v Speaker 1>to be brought. And I think again the comparison to

0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.280
<v Speaker 1>another popular name of a white woman who had no

0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.880
<v Speaker 1>status or no profile before something bad happened to her,

0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Gabby Patito. I think if you were just to think

0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.760
<v Speaker 1>about that yourself, you could see how the media would

0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.240
<v Speaker 1>approach that differently, how police would approach that differently, how

0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:45.440
<v Speaker 1>accountability would look different in those situations. The thing is,

0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.360
<v Speaker 1>we don't want to harp. I know that we have

0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.200
<v Speaker 1>to as part of the reason why Q kind of

0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.720
<v Speaker 1>keeps me from floating off into the clouds. We have

0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:58.240
<v Speaker 1>to bear in mind that the eight hundred and seventy

0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.920
<v Speaker 1>four days of waiting is an injustice in and of itself.

0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:06.280
<v Speaker 1>But because I'm mean, because I always have a tendency

0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:10.280
<v Speaker 1>to get this stuff off, I do want to say

0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:19.680
<v Speaker 1>that some justice, late justice. Partial justice is better than

0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:24.000
<v Speaker 1>no justice, is better than a complete failure to acknowledge

0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:29.040
<v Speaker 1>or take responsibility for what happened.

0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:33.040
<v Speaker 2>If there is any then I'd agree with you, right

0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:36.720
<v Speaker 2>because we know that officers being arrested and or charged

0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:42.560
<v Speaker 2>means nothing. Right I'm guessing will stand trial. And then

0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:47.200
<v Speaker 2>there's the topic of sentencing, which far too often seems

0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:51.600
<v Speaker 2>to be very very very light or acquitted with regards

0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:57.200
<v Speaker 2>to law enforcement being charged with murder, especially when those

0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:01.280
<v Speaker 2>victims look like us, more so, as we can see

0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.639
<v Speaker 2>with the Kuittles, when the victim looks like us, and

0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:13.679
<v Speaker 2>as a woman. So I'm hesitant to celebrate anyway. It

0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:17.080
<v Speaker 2>got no rise out of me. Excuse me, when I

0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:22.879
<v Speaker 2>saw that charges were brought, I had no emotional response whatsoever.

0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to see accountability actually happen, and I'm sure

0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:30.959
<v Speaker 2>I'll feel a lot different than it, But I just

0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I have no evidence, and there's no data that gives

0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.679
<v Speaker 2>me any reason to have any faith in this system

0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:40.679
<v Speaker 2>that has failed us so monumentally and so often and

0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:46.160
<v Speaker 2>so consistently. There is still no reason to celebrate yet,

0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.760
<v Speaker 2>right that, kudos to them for doing the job that

0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.040
<v Speaker 2>they shouldn't have. No one should have had to insist

0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.800
<v Speaker 2>they do, and it definitely shouldn't have taken two and

0:18:54.840 --> 0:19:00.760
<v Speaker 2>a half years for something to happen. But we'll see.

0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that's fair. I think that's more than fair.

0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:13.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's that's fair, you know. And then obviously

0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:23.000
<v Speaker 1>we've seen that sometimes these things are the result of pressure,

0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:26.800
<v Speaker 1>like if the country hadn't gotten into the streets. This

0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.439
<v Speaker 1>may have never happened even after eight hundred and seventy

0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:38.080
<v Speaker 1>four days, right, But my hope is that even having

0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:43.360
<v Speaker 1>charges brought against these officers more frequently, the attention being

0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:45.840
<v Speaker 1>brought to it, us, having this conversation here and now,

0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:52.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe the ripple effect of these combined actions and hopefully

0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the results of this trial and the results of these

0:19:54.600 --> 0:20:03.560
<v Speaker 1>actions will create off us who think twice. It will

0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:08.640
<v Speaker 1>implore the people behind the systems that really frame our

0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:19.040
<v Speaker 1>society to understand that there at least maybe some consequences

0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:21.760
<v Speaker 1>feels like a strong word, but inconveniences if you take

0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the life of a black woman and that might be

0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:28.720
<v Speaker 1>something enough for some people to at least pause before

0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:31.879
<v Speaker 1>they continue through. Or you know, I'm trying to find

0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:36.040
<v Speaker 1>a shred of something positive here, you know, beyond the

0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:38.320
<v Speaker 1>fact that, of course there are charges now finally brought.

0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to find, you know, how about this. We

0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:55.800
<v Speaker 1>have come a long way. This is not the world

0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:59.359
<v Speaker 1>that our fathers, our grandfathers, our great grandfathers lived in,

0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:04.879
<v Speaker 1>but this hopefully will not be the world that our

0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:07.920
<v Speaker 1>children and grandchildren and great grandchildren live in. And my

0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.639
<v Speaker 1>hope is that, yes, the here and now that today

0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 1>might look bleak, it might look like we are a

0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.679
<v Speaker 1>long way from you know, where we have to be,

0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and those things are true. But if we look at

0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:25.360
<v Speaker 1>these things in the scale of a human lifetime, then

0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:27.560
<v Speaker 1>it looks impossible. But if we look at this in

0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.760
<v Speaker 1>terms of the scale of a country and how long

0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:37.520
<v Speaker 1>countries last, then in my more optimistic view, when I

0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:40.679
<v Speaker 1>have them from time to time more often than you do,

0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I see a trajectory that hopefully will continue, and we'll

0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:49.800
<v Speaker 1>move this whole country along toward a more perfect union.

0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:54.160
<v Speaker 1>To borrow from the language of this country's forefathers. Yeah,

0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that the incline of a graph that would

0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:04.440
<v Speaker 1>be showing the trend of progress for said country, it'd

0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:08.440
<v Speaker 1>be far less steep than you might hope. I think

0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:13.199
<v Speaker 1>we're trending in a direction that we've always hoped, just

0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:18.040
<v Speaker 1>very very slowly, and there's far less progress from the

0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:20.399
<v Speaker 1>years of our great grandparents than you would hope. But

0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:25.080
<v Speaker 1>then you would imagine we're not having dogs sicked on

0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:28.159
<v Speaker 1>us in the streets anymore, right, But a lot of

0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the outcomes are the same. So I saw that, remember

0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:35.600
<v Speaker 1>that video we did, though I reserve, I reserve. I'll

0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:36.600
<v Speaker 1>reserve my.

0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Response for actual progress instead of you know, what might

0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:48.080
<v Speaker 2>appear to be so to some, because I know these

0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:53.840
<v Speaker 2>outcomes are sadly and typically the same. Yeah, so we'll

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:57.879
<v Speaker 2>see hopefully we have something not to cheer, but just

0:22:57.920 --> 0:22:59.399
<v Speaker 2>to be able to nod our heads and say, okay,

0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:05.160
<v Speaker 2>at least some form of accountability has started to show

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:06.000
<v Speaker 2>its face. Right.

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, I do want to say this. You mentioned dog

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 1>sicked on us, and that's still a thing. Remember that

0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 1>video that we had to talk about where the police

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:17.760
<v Speaker 1>sick the dog on the man who was just standing there.

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:19.240
<v Speaker 1>He was a black man and the dog like bit

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:20.399
<v Speaker 1>him up and he had to go to the hospital

0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and they ripped him apart kind of, So that still

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:25.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of happens. I know you probably.

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Maybe not as frequent. I'll say that then, sure.

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 1>And I know that today's topic is about black women.

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:36.679
<v Speaker 1>But I do want to also mention while we have

0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 1>a few minutes or a few seconds left, that ah

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Moud Aubrey's killer was sentenced to a federal hate crime

0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:52.840
<v Speaker 1>to a term of life in prison plus ten years

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:57.720
<v Speaker 1>amid his fears that someone would hurt him in jail,

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 1>and so that's another thing. My hope is that will

0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the ripple effect will be that society will certainly society

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:15.879
<v Speaker 1>that harbors the sentiment that black bodies can be damaged

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>with no consequences. You can harm black people and no

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.760
<v Speaker 1>one's going to come out. Those groups will see that

0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 1>verdict and realize even more that we probably should take

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:29.240
<v Speaker 1>it easy, because.

0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 2>When we get when we get to a point where

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 2>this man is not an outlier or an exception once again,

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:38.880
<v Speaker 2>I'll feel a lot better. You give me one case

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:41.640
<v Speaker 2>of accountability and then you give me thousands of cases

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:46.119
<v Speaker 2>of impunity, it's hard to really feel away about it.

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right, and far be it for me to

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:52.119
<v Speaker 1>be a part of the media that influences the world

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:57.119
<v Speaker 1>to think that just because there's one instance that everything's changing.

0:24:57.680 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>So you're right, there are lots of cases that don't

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:01.879
<v Speaker 1>go on reported, so they go on reporting