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Speaker 1: Today on the bright Side, astrologer Channy Nicholas reads our

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Speaker 1: show's birth chart. Whether you're a true believer like Danielle

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Speaker 1: or a bit of a skeptic like you girl, I

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Speaker 1: promise you'll learn something.

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Speaker 2: Plus Channy tells us what's written in the stars for

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Speaker 2: the show, For us and of course for.

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Speaker 3: You, the bright side is always that we have each other, right.

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Speaker 3: The bright side is that the myth of individualism, we'll

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Speaker 3: kill you literally, and that if we remember that we

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Speaker 3: are a collective, remember that we are not alone, which

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Speaker 3: is what happens when you are honest with your story,

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Speaker 3: then we remember that we get through this only together.

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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, March twenty seventh. I'm Simone Boyce.

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Speaker 2: I'm Danielle Robe and this is the bright side from

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Speaker 2: Hello Sunshine. Okay, Simon, I recently came across this photo

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Speaker 2: of model Emily Radikowski and she posted on Instagram a

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Speaker 2: photo of her divorce ring. Before we get into her

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Speaker 2: divorce ring and divorce rings in general, do you remember

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Speaker 2: her engagement ring?

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Speaker 1: I don't. Can you refresh my memory?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna say this wrong, but if anybody speaks French,

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Speaker 2: let me know what it really sounds like she popularized

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Speaker 2: the tooi Etois engagement ring, which basically is two stones

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Speaker 2: together on one band. First of all, this ring left

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Speaker 2: a mark on the industry. I'm not even a ring person,

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Speaker 2: and I remember this ring. But now that she's divorced,

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Speaker 2: her and that it's sort of like the engagement ring.

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Speaker 2: Said I do, and then this one says, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I love this trend because I think it's so empowering

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Speaker 1: for women who are moving through divorce. It's a way

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Speaker 1: to take that experience that can be heartbreaking and incredibly

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Speaker 1: painful and own it and also get two rings out

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Speaker 2: Hey, she was like, I am not going to let

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Speaker 2: losing a man. She said this to Fokes. She said,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to let losing a man get rid

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Speaker 2: of my gems. And I agree with you. I think

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Speaker 2: divorce is so brutal, especially when there's kids involved and

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Speaker 2: I love it, But I do think there's symbolism and jewelry,

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Speaker 2: and so I don't know if I would personally want

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Speaker 1: Even if you separated them out. Yeah, even if it

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Speaker 1: was two separate stones.

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Speaker 2: I think, like not to get so woo woo, but

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Speaker 2: I feel like it would carry the energy of that

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Speaker 1: Diamond would literally carry the energy. No, not litterally, his spirit.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that, but no figuratively.

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Speaker 2: And I just I'm kind of like, if you bought

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to I think it's hard to say

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Speaker 1: the price tag would be if I sold it on eBay.

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Speaker 1: But I think you have to tell our right side

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Speaker 1: besties what you just told me, which is that you

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Speaker 1: might not even wear a ring when you get engaged. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I want a ring. I do hope

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Speaker 2: to be married. I'm thirty three. I hope to be

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Speaker 2: married at some point in the next six years. Maybe

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Speaker 2: that would be nice, But I've never cared about rings.

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Speaker 2: All my friends say to me, like, you don't care

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Speaker 2: until you get engaged and then you want to ring.

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Speaker 1: I think I would feel I would feel so naked

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. There is symbolism in our culture.

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Speaker 1: You're right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I guess we decided on nothing in this

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm for it. I'm pro divorce ring.

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Speaker 2: I'm convinced that I need to do some research. Another

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Speaker 2: thing I'm convinced about is that you can do your

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Speaker 1: Have you ever tried it? I'm really good at doing

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Speaker 1: I actually love the drug store.

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Speaker 2: says she loves the Nivia lip bomb in Pink Shimmer.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I'm writing this down. Yeah, we should put.

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Speaker 2: A list out of our own as well on social Okay.

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Speaker 2: Brooks Shields is a fan of Sally Hansen's wax strips.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Andrews uses cris White strips. She says she's a

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Speaker 2: coffee drinker and a wine drinker, So girl, same, and

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Speaker 2: I'm about to give you some of mine.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Brooks Shields with the wax strips, don't

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Speaker 2: wax equipment that's in the drug store is unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: I can't say that I have my friend you.

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Speaker 2: Lisa Bermudez is a a beauty blogger and she put

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Speaker 2: me on and I will never be the same. There's

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Speaker 2: like these white little sticks you dip into wax that

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Speaker 2: them up your nose and you're good for like three weeks.

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Speaker 1: What is the pain level here? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: One through ten? I'd say six and a half. It's

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Speaker 2: wordy to me. Okay, Loriel voluminous mess Scarra yes, eight

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Speaker 2: buying an expensive mass scao when this exists. Smash smash, Okay,

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Speaker 2: name a better lotion than Palmer's Cocoa butter for eight dollars.

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Speaker 1: Nope, No, I just I'm laughing because I just love

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Speaker 1: how black. That answer was like, like, you can come

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Speaker 1: to the cookout, Danielle. You're invited to the cookout. Thank you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: back to products anything Bert's Bees. Do you like Burt's Bees?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like a good chapstick.

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Speaker 2: And then the rock Barrier am moisturizer. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: like a secret weapon. It's EIGHTPF thirty and if you're

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Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, you want to hear mine? Duh? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: so I swear by Maybelene's brow liner brow pencil. How

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Speaker 1: do you know which color you are? Soft brown? Okay, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: think it's the best dupe for the Anastasia Beverly Hills

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Speaker 1: over to this one because the Anastasia one it would

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Speaker 1: under ten dollars. Vacline, vaciline. I'm a vacline girly for life.

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Speaker 1: Where do you put it? Everywhere? Everywhere?

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Speaker 1: But oh my god, wait, I know Vasilyn is controversial

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Speaker 1: mean everywhere? Like on your face? No? I mean okay,

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Speaker 2: After the break, the stars have aligned in Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: Today we have a very special guest here in studio

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Speaker 2: to tell us what the heavens have in store for

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, We'll be right back back. We're back, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I'm Simone Boye. If you like me, don't know your

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Speaker 1: ascendance from your aspects, don't worry. Astrologer Channy Nicholas is

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Speaker 1: one of the world's leading experts and best translators on

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Speaker 1: the subject.

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Speaker 2: She's the author of the New York Times bestseller You

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Speaker 2: Were Born for This Astrology for Radical self acceptance, and

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Speaker 2: she's here to give us a cosmic breakdown of what

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Speaker 2: our podcast birth chart means. Welcome to the bright Side, Channey.

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Speaker 2: We're so excited to have.

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Speaker 1: You Channy, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited

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Speaker 2: So you have been an astrologer for more than two decades?

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Speaker 3: Is that true?

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Speaker 1: It's true. I checked, Okay, got check check.

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Speaker 2: But you know there's no college major you can't like

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Speaker 3: I got into it because my dad's third wife, mom

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Speaker 3: I knew what this woman was talking about, and she

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Speaker 2: So interesting because that familiarity, I think is what scares

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Speaker 1: Usually. Yeah, I have to be honest, I'm one of

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Speaker 1: think of astrology, it feels like an ideology that is,

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Speaker 3: I just want everyone to know that Simona is an Aquarius.

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Speaker 3: So yes, but I love that for you.

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Speaker 1: I identify as an Aquarius when I look at the traits.

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Speaker 1: When I look at the traits of an Aquarius, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that's me. And also Oprah's an Aquarius, so of course

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Speaker 1: by Saturn. And Saturn is a planet of discernment and

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Speaker 1: like this, there's a beginning, middle and end to something.

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Speaker 1: So like there's a way in which your rising sign

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Speaker 3: It can be used as a mirror, right, So it

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Speaker 1: That sounds weighty. I know, isn't It sounds very weighty.

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Speaker 1: Watch out. Yeah, and we're here, so we're slapping the face,

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Speaker 3: We're talkers, Okay, but I do think that you will

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Speaker 3: weighty subjects. Okay, it's not just like it's got a

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Speaker 3: libramon so it's super friendly and chatty and like can

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Speaker 3: be really pretty and sparkly and lovely, but there's there's

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Speaker 3: a need for some heft here.

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Speaker 1: I think that comes from both of us.

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Speaker 2: I feel a real attraction to like busting through stereotypes

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Speaker 2: and talking to people that are a little bit complicated. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I think you're you have a lot of depth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and audacity too, I think I would. Audacity is

441
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Speaker 1: a word that I really want to reclaim, okay, because

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Speaker 1: I feel like it has been misinterpreted and it's all

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Speaker 1: about just like courage and boldness. Yes, K, you're seeing

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Speaker 1: that in our show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, We're gonna pause right there to take a short break.

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Speaker 2: But when we come back, will Channy turn Simone into

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Speaker 2: a true believer? Is that a yes or a no?

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned to find out. Welcome back to the bright side.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that based on the birth chart of

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Speaker 2: the show and reading both my and Simone's birth chart,

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Speaker 2: there are any goals that we should be shooting for

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Speaker 2: individually or together.

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: You always have to feel creatively alive, like your creative

456
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Speaker 3: energy is everything. Like if you worry or wonder or

457
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Speaker 3: or you know, question anything in your life, I want

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Speaker 3: you to always go back to creative pursuits, your creative energy.

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Speaker 3: Maybe even children in your life. Do you have no,

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Speaker 3: but I want them? I mean it's huge for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and in doing anything for kids, Like if you were

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Speaker 3: to do any kind of like extra work on the side.

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Speaker 1: Or you wanted to give money or you wanted to

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Speaker 1: give your time.

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Speaker 3: Anything for kids in youth, Yeah, would be so meaningful

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Speaker 3: for your chart, or even reproductive rights or anything like that,

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Speaker 3: like anything about conception, reproduction, children, youth and art. Like

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Speaker 3: if you did something about kids and art or like theater,

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Speaker 3: like all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Would the whole goal in life is to reach young girls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to babysit my kids anytime, by

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Speaker 1: the way, I've already often, I've already I.

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Speaker 3: Would give her my child because her chart she's so responsible,

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Speaker 3: so playful, nice, she's.

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Speaker 1: Very responsible, very trustworthy. Yeah, anytime.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so stick to creativity. How about simone?

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Speaker 3: Hers is like oddly concentrated, right, so like everything goes there.

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Speaker 1: Yours is like work.

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Speaker 3: For sure, But also you have uch a blessing in

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Speaker 3: the area of communication and writing, and it would be

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Speaker 3: like a shame for you to not live that out,

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Speaker 3: Like that's a hugely potent piece of your chart and

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Speaker 3: anything to do with the creative process as it pertains

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Speaker 3: to words, to rituals to like daily light like all

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Speaker 3: of that. It's very important. But like I just think

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Speaker 3: you're such an incredibly gifted communicator and that people would

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Speaker 3: love what you say, like there's a quality to your voice,

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Speaker 3: quality to your words, quality to your writing that is

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Speaker 3: begging to be developed and really wants to lend itself

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Speaker 3: to your career.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting taller now. I'm just rest for you. Though. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it does, it is. I think I am understanding that

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Speaker 1: statement and also connecting that to what you mentioned about

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Speaker 1: being in a pivot or some things that are happening

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Speaker 1: for me creatively right now. Where that all aligns it

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Speaker 1: makes sense. Good, good, good, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then the ruler of your ascendant is also Saturn.

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Speaker 3: It's a very like function up kind of Saturn.

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Speaker 1: Like you're here to like be like, okay, we write

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Speaker 1: it down exactly. I texted her that the other day exactly.

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Speaker 3: You're like, I want to know exactly how the system

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Speaker 3: works so I can mess with it in the most

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Speaker 3: efficient and seamless way.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: So you're not going to come in and like be like, oh,

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Speaker 3: just like a rebel without a cause. You're like, I

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Speaker 3: have a cause, and I've I've studied the blueprints of

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Speaker 3: this thing inside and out. I know exactly where I am,

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Speaker 3: what I'm about to do, and why.

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Speaker 1: And now watch me it's so true. I got I

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Speaker 1: think you're listening live to an astrology skeptic become a believer. Yes,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show, folks.

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Speaker 2: I have one more question about the chart. One of

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Speaker 2: the things we're trying to do is build a really bright, sparkly,

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Speaker 2: joyful community. And this is our first week, so we're

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Speaker 2: bringing everybody in. I really feel like it's not just

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Speaker 2: our show. It's a show for women by women, and

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Speaker 2: I want everyone to feel like it's their show. Is

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Speaker 2: there something about the show's chart that speaks to the

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Speaker 2: community at large?

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Speaker 3: Yes, So if I look to the community in the chart,

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Speaker 3: it's definitely the point at which, like the public receives

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Speaker 3: your communal offering. The community is represented in your chart

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Speaker 3: by Mars, that planet that is sitting with Saturn. So

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Speaker 3: there's this connection between the charts, destiny and the public.

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Speaker 3: And again it's like supported by a lot there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of friendliness, there's a lot of help. But again

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Speaker 3: it's like the public that you're talking to, they want

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Speaker 3: to know you're real, I think, is what I would say.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's not like a forur pretend kind of situation.

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Speaker 3: It's like, again, it's the same thing as I said before.

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Speaker 3: It wants to get gritty, It wants to get into

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Speaker 3: the details, wants to know like why is this moment difficult?

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Speaker 3: And I do think that you have this in the

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Speaker 3: show's chart already, but like what is the pain point

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Speaker 3: and what is the medicine for that? Like how can

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Speaker 3: we talk our way through the things that we might

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Speaker 3: be kind of like that might be like a bit

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Speaker 3: of a.

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Speaker 1: Nod for us. That's what we've been trying to a

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Speaker 1: massage ut out. That's something that we've talked about because

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Speaker 1: with a show that has a title like The bright Side,

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Speaker 1: it's really easy to just go yeah, positivity, optimism, joy, everything.

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Speaker 1: But that's not what life looks like. Life is messy,

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Speaker 1: and so we are trying to be mindful of finding

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Speaker 1: those moments where we can talk about the messiness and

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Speaker 1: be honest about it.

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Speaker 2: Every time I see gloriou Steinem speak in person, she says,

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Speaker 2: the most feminist thing you could do is share your

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Speaker 2: honest stories with other women.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's in aries too.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean she's a fighter. A fighter, so you

554
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Speaker 3: have a chart of a fighter. Yeah, Like there's that

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Speaker 3: Nee need to blaze a trail, to go head first,

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Speaker 3: to risk your own comfort and sometimes safety, in order

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Speaker 3: to do the thing that you feel inspired to do

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Speaker 3: and that one must go do.

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Speaker 2: I think we have to embody that because I think

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Speaker 2: our goal is to share the honest, real story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the bright side is always that we have

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Speaker 3: each other, right. The bright side is that the myth

563
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 3: of individualism will kill you literally, and that if we

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Speaker 3: remember that we are a collective, remember that we are

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Speaker 3: not alone, which is what happens when you are honest

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Speaker 3: with your story, then we remember that we get through

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00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: this only together. And I think the moon in this

568
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: chart does speak to that because it is about relationships,

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Speaker 3: It is being connected with others.

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Speaker 1: Tanny, incorporating all the knowledge that you just imbued us

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Speaker 1: with about our charts, can you give us an affirmation

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Speaker 1: for our show that we can keep in mind moving forward.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we're really putting.

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Speaker 3: You on I know, right, Yeah, an affirmation for the show.

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Speaker 3: I think what I was going to say is like

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Speaker 3: I use my energy to serve something greater than myself.

577
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Speaker 3: That I am not taken off course by interruptions and

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00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: by life being life, but I am committed to a

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Speaker 3: long term process of moving towards something that is equitable

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Speaker 3: and fair and just a world that is considerate of

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Speaker 3: all that are in it.

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Speaker 2: So we're wrapping up March and going into April. What

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Speaker 2: are the major astrological events that listeners should be mindful of?

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Speaker 3: Man, I mean, April's a tough month.

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Speaker 1: Don't say that, can I be honest? I never hear

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Speaker 1: someone who's into astrology say that things are going great.

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00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: It's always no. I know, I know it's always mercuries

588
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: in retrograde that there's always something bad happening.

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Speaker 3: Because you know why, because fear on the internet. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So there's really beautiful things happening in April. There's just

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Speaker 3: a really tough eclipse on April eighth. It's a time

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Speaker 3: where I think it might be a little rumbly and

593
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Speaker 3: bumpy for the world. But there's something gorgeous happening. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So yes, for your listeners, Okay, for your listeners. There

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Speaker 3: is a gorgeous conjunction of Jupiter and Uranus that is

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Speaker 3: happening in Tauris, and it hasn't happened since the forties.

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Speaker 3: And Jupiter's a planet of abundance, and Uranus is a

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Speaker 3: planet of innovation, and so they're happening. They're coming together

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Speaker 3: in Taurus, which is about material life, and I think

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Speaker 3: the workforce, and so I think that there's going to

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Speaker 3: be something really innovative and helpful and hopeful in terms

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Speaker 3: of maybe the economy, maybe in terms of a like

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Speaker 3: marginalized group or groups busting through into like a.

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Speaker 1: New sector of the workforce.

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Speaker 3: The last time we had it, one of the archetypes

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Speaker 3: that came through was like Rosie the Riffeter, and so

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Speaker 3: it was like women going into the workforce in a

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Speaker 3: way and folks of color going into the workforce in

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Speaker 3: a way. But it was a huge change in the

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Speaker 3: ways in which we thought of like work and who

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Speaker 3: can do it?

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Speaker 1: This was really cool. Thank you. I feel like you

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Speaker 1: staged our space.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for bringing this to Thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Channy Simon was our conversation with Channy enough time for

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Speaker 2: you to become an astrology believer.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Believe is a strong word. It's a

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Speaker 1: strong word, Danielle, come on, but I had a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun with you today. Before we close out the episode,

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Speaker 1: we have a little spark of brightness. Our key takeaway

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Speaker 1: from our conversation with Channy that we want to share,

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Speaker 1: and that is astrology is one tool that can unlock

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Speaker 1: the blueprint for your potential. Whatever tool you choose, we

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Speaker 1: empower you to pursue your life's purpose undaunted.

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Speaker 2: If you're like me and you want a little more

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Speaker 2: from Channy, check out her app. It's called Channy and

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Speaker 2: you can find it wherever you get apps. Tomorrow, we'll

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Speaker 2: test our red Flag Radar with dating coach and the

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Speaker 2: host of the Do the Work podcast Sabrina Zohar.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to miss it.

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Speaker 1: Listen and follow the bright Side on the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And if

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Speaker 1: you enjoyed listening, share the show with someone you love,

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Speaker 1: whether they're in astrology, die hard or not. You can

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Speaker 1: find me Simone Voice at Simone Voice.

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Speaker 2: And you can find me Danielle Robe at Danielle Robe

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Speaker 2: ro b a y.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow with more from the bright Side,

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Speaker 1: same time, same place,