1
00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,520
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Therapy for Black Girls Podcast, a weekly

2
00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:19,320
Speaker 1: conversation about mental health, personal development, and all the small

3
00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,520
Speaker 1: decisions we can make to become the best possible versions

4
00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,640
Speaker 1: of ourselves. I'm your host, doctor Joy hard and Bradford,

5
00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:32,080
Speaker 1: a licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia. For more information or

6
00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,600
Speaker 1: to find a therapist in your area, visit our website

7
00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,440
Speaker 1: at Therapy for Blackgirls dot com. While I hope you

8
00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,479
Speaker 1: love listening to and learning from the podcast, it is

9
00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,440
Speaker 1: not meant to be a substitute for a relationship with

10
00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:57,320
Speaker 1: a licensed mental health professional. Hey, y'all, thanks so much

11
00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,520
Speaker 1: for joining me for session four forty one of the

12
00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,600
Speaker 1: Therapy for Black Girls Podcast. We'll get right into our

13
00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:14,520
Speaker 1: conversation after word from our sponsors. Is that time of

14
00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,640
Speaker 1: the year again where we reflect on all of the

15
00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,399
Speaker 1: astrological insights we got heading into twenty twenty five, as

16
00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,440
Speaker 1: well as get a sneak peek into what we can

17
00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,240
Speaker 1: look forward to in twenty twenty six. Our resident astrologer,

18
00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,680
Speaker 1: Mecca Woods joins me for her annual astrological report. From

19
00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:35,000
Speaker 1: transits to retrogrades to major planetary shifts. She's here to

20
00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,720
Speaker 1: unpack it all. If something resonates with you while enjoying

21
00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,920
Speaker 1: our conversation. Please share with us on social media using

22
00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,880
Speaker 1: the hashtag TVG in session, or join us over in

23
00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,480
Speaker 1: our Patreon. To talk more about the episode, You can

24
00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,680
Speaker 1: join us at community dot therapy for Blackgirls dot com.

25
00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:58,880
Speaker 1: Here's our conversation. Welcome back to the podcast, Mecca. I'm

26
00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,200
Speaker 1: so excited to see you and chat with you again.

27
00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,480
Speaker 2: Like why is doctor joy? It's always a pressure to

28
00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,800
Speaker 2: be a guest. I feel like we're having like our

29
00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:06,840
Speaker 2: annual meeting.

30
00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,480
Speaker 1: Exactly, an annual catchup to see you. Yes, yes, So

31
00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,799
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five has been quite the year. W yeah, right,

32
00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,880
Speaker 1: Like deep breath, everybody, what has life been like for

33
00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,960
Speaker 1: you as an astrologer this year? And are there any

34
00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,520
Speaker 1: like themes like what kinds of conversations have you been

35
00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:25,720
Speaker 1: having with clients?

36
00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,240
Speaker 2: So conversations that I've been having with clients has been

37
00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,440
Speaker 2: around like what's next? Where do I go next? Trying

38
00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,000
Speaker 2: to make sense of a lot of the chaos that

39
00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:41,480
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five brought, I think amongst my fellow astrologers

40
00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,880
Speaker 2: more so, like in private, we've been checking each other's

41
00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,800
Speaker 2: notes to see like if the things that we spoke

42
00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,520
Speaker 2: about or predicted came to pass. I was actually listening

43
00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,359
Speaker 2: to our last session back in twenty twenty four when

44
00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,400
Speaker 2: you and I were talking about you know what was

45
00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,800
Speaker 2: coming up for twenty twenty five, And as I was listening,

46
00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,359
Speaker 2: I was going through my little checklist of like, yes,

47
00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,720
Speaker 2: that happened, and that happened. And I always have mixed

48
00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,600
Speaker 2: feelings about like making the predictions but also wanting to

49
00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:18,520
Speaker 2: provide information to our listeners that's helpful and that prepares

50
00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,280
Speaker 2: people for what's to come right, especially during these sort

51
00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,520
Speaker 2: of like chaotic times. But at the same time, I

52
00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,360
Speaker 2: think one of the things that came up for me,

53
00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,720
Speaker 2: both in talking to clients and also just being astrologer

54
00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,000
Speaker 2: and just what my work encompasses. I think astrology is

55
00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,280
Speaker 2: not just about like making the predictions and saying, like,

56
00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,800
Speaker 2: what's coming up, but also like a form of record keeping,

57
00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,160
Speaker 2: especially given that we are now in a time where

58
00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,720
Speaker 2: there is a lot of erasure happening for black women,

59
00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,840
Speaker 2: black women voices, black women's work, and a lot of

60
00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,760
Speaker 2: gaslighting that's taking place right from the government, from the

61
00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,200
Speaker 2: me from celebrities even that are telling us that everything

62
00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,800
Speaker 2: is fine and that everything's okay when it's not right.

63
00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,520
Speaker 2: So I think that a big chunk of my work

64
00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,600
Speaker 2: has not only been helping people, like supporting my clients

65
00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,479
Speaker 2: and supporting people in terms of like navigating what's going on,

66
00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,560
Speaker 2: but also just affirm it and say like, yeah, like

67
00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,760
Speaker 2: you're feeling what you're feeling for a reason. You know,

68
00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:32,839
Speaker 2: things feel stressful for a reason, things feel chaotic, angering, frustrating,

69
00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,000
Speaker 2: all the above for a reason. And having people just

70
00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,839
Speaker 2: really be thankful to have someone like me validating and

71
00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:42,440
Speaker 2: affirming that.

72
00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,160
Speaker 1: I love the way that you're framing that right, because

73
00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,360
Speaker 1: I think sometimes you know, people have conversations around astrology

74
00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,839
Speaker 1: and it feels frivolous and it feels like, Okay, what

75
00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,359
Speaker 1: are y'all doing? But to think about it as a

76
00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,159
Speaker 1: record keeping especially in the interest of making sure our

77
00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,960
Speaker 1: lives and things are documented, I think is very powerful.

78
00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think that when I first

79
00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,320
Speaker 2: started my practice over a decade ago, at this point,

80
00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,719
Speaker 2: I remember I named it in my Life Created because

81
00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,360
Speaker 2: I wanted to give people an idea of like being

82
00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:20,840
Speaker 2: co creators with the universe and not just being passive participants.

83
00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,680
Speaker 2: And so I think that the way in which I

84
00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,279
Speaker 2: practice astrology, and I try to like incorporate it in

85
00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,960
Speaker 2: my life or in my work, is to show folks that, like, yes,

86
00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,480
Speaker 2: there are a lot of things that are going on

87
00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,839
Speaker 2: that might be beyond our control. What can we do

88
00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,960
Speaker 2: that's within our control? Right? Like? How can we be

89
00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,120
Speaker 2: active participants, you know, in our own lives despite the

90
00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,400
Speaker 2: challenges or the roadblocks that we might be facing.

91
00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, this is of course a mental

92
00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,720
Speaker 1: health podcast, and you've already mentioned that a lot of

93
00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,360
Speaker 1: the conversations that you've been having with clients are around

94
00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,800
Speaker 1: what do I do next? Like how do I support

95
00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,800
Speaker 1: my self through these difficult times? I'm curious, Mecca, have

96
00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,919
Speaker 1: you ever worked in tandem with a mental health professional,

97
00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,840
Speaker 1: like with a client. Is that something that has been

98
00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:09,320
Speaker 1: a part.

99
00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,840
Speaker 2: Of your work? Actually? Yeah, so I've never had how

100
00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,960
Speaker 2: can I say it, Like, I've never had a therapist

101
00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,599
Speaker 2: other than you Secretory like reach out to me to

102
00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,640
Speaker 2: like co coach a client. But I have clients who

103
00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,479
Speaker 2: are in therapy and we'll have moments where I'm like

104
00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,920
Speaker 2: telling them something or you know, suggesting something, and they'll

105
00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,520
Speaker 2: be like, my therapist just said that, are you sitting

106
00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,159
Speaker 2: in on my therapy sessions because I just had that

107
00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,840
Speaker 2: conversation with my therapists the other day. So yeah, so

108
00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,520
Speaker 2: there there is some overlap between you know, my work

109
00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,320
Speaker 2: and the work that clients are doing in therapy.

110
00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wonder if there could be a world

111
00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,599
Speaker 1: I think for sure it is that like a client

112
00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,720
Speaker 1: would sign a release for maybe you to talk with

113
00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,800
Speaker 1: their therapists about some of the themes that have come

114
00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:01,880
Speaker 1: up in session, to kind of talk about, you know,

115
00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,800
Speaker 1: like because you are a part of the cantine, right

116
00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,720
Speaker 1: like for people who this is important to, like you

117
00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,279
Speaker 1: are a professional just like they might be seeing a therapist.

118
00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,000
Speaker 1: So it feels like there could be a way where

119
00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,240
Speaker 1: there is more kind of collaboration maybe or for the therapists

120
00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,760
Speaker 1: to hear from what you are, like what's coming up

121
00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,880
Speaker 1: in your sessions, to kind of anchor the work.

122
00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that there's definitely room for that. I

123
00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,400
Speaker 2: think that as we progress forward and think about what

124
00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,840
Speaker 2: does healing mean, both in terms of like emotional, physical, spiritual,

125
00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,480
Speaker 2: how we can combine different methods and modalities to create

126
00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,320
Speaker 2: more like of a holistic sort of treatment plan or

127
00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:44,240
Speaker 2: picture for people who are seeking those kinds of remedies

128
00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,920
Speaker 2: and so It's actually interesting too, because I know that

129
00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:53,120
Speaker 2: there are some astrologers who are also licensed therapists. I've

130
00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,480
Speaker 2: seen that before, and I've seen people talking more about

131
00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,240
Speaker 2: being interested in astrology but also wanting to study psychology

132
00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,760
Speaker 2: as well. This is more, I would say, like more

133
00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:07,120
Speaker 2: modern astrology, there's been more overlap between like the psychology

134
00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,240
Speaker 2: of human behavior and like how that translates or is

135
00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,400
Speaker 2: manifested through the stars on the planets as well. So yeah,

136
00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,000
Speaker 2: so I definitely think that there's room for both, and

137
00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,520
Speaker 2: I think that there should be for both. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

138
00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,880
Speaker 1: So you mentioned that you and some astrologer colleagues have

139
00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,280
Speaker 1: been kind of doing some reflection and as you're thinking about,

140
00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, what we're going to talk about today, Is

141
00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,120
Speaker 1: there anything as you were doing that reflecting that in

142
00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five came out of left field, even given

143
00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,480
Speaker 1: what you have known about the stores.

144
00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,400
Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a great question. I don't know if there's

145
00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,320
Speaker 2: anything I would say, maybe this is not so much

146
00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,240
Speaker 2: the astrologer talking, but more of me, Mecca, the human talking.

147
00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:57,920
Speaker 2: I think that I felt the sort of stomach drop

148
00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,920
Speaker 2: of like, oh no, like what else bad is about

149
00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,560
Speaker 2: to happen? Each time the headlines were coming out about

150
00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,240
Speaker 2: some harbor, about some tragedy, about something that was going wrong.

151
00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,120
Speaker 2: I think that I was going through the thing of like, oh, gosh,

152
00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,400
Speaker 2: not this, oh, just feeling the impact of that, of

153
00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,320
Speaker 2: being just a human in the world and witnessing such

154
00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,920
Speaker 2: great pain and suffering. I think that that was something

155
00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,400
Speaker 2: that really impacted me.

156
00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,440
Speaker 1: Each of the signs falls into They belong to one

157
00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,160
Speaker 1: of four categories the element, so fire, Earth, air, and water.

158
00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,320
Speaker 1: And I want to have you talk about what each

159
00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,160
Speaker 1: element represents and like what was the general vibe for

160
00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,240
Speaker 1: each element in twenty twenty five, So we can start

161
00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,280
Speaker 1: with the fire signs.

162
00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:49,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so fire signs Sagittarius areas and Leo. Fire is playful,

163
00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:55,040
Speaker 2: fire is outgoing, fire is creative, fire is assertive. And

164
00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,520
Speaker 2: so when we talk about for the fire and the

165
00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,280
Speaker 2: signs this year, I think the fire signs were little

166
00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:05,760
Speaker 2: bit more muted than usual. And that was because so Sagittarians,

167
00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,080
Speaker 2: we were getting beat up by by the Virgo and

168
00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,360
Speaker 2: Pisces eclipses and Saturn and Neptune and Pisces. You know,

169
00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,520
Speaker 2: so whenever Saturn is around, Saturn tends to like make

170
00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:20,559
Speaker 2: you more serious and make you a little bit more reserved. Right, So,

171
00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,640
Speaker 2: sagittarius Is are known for being very outgoing and kind

172
00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,320
Speaker 2: of like the life of the party. Between those eclipses

173
00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,920
Speaker 2: and that Saturn Neptune story, I think a lot of

174
00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,880
Speaker 2: Sadgetes were just kind of like didn't really have that

175
00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,679
Speaker 2: get up and go that we usually have. And then

176
00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,360
Speaker 2: Arias also got a taste of Saturn this year, this

177
00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,960
Speaker 2: past year as well, or I should say this year.

178
00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,600
Speaker 2: I'm already in twenty twenties, Like where am I? Yeah,

179
00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,800
Speaker 2: so eris are also got a taste of Saturn because

180
00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,120
Speaker 2: Saturn was in Aries for a few months this year,

181
00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,320
Speaker 2: and so that might have made areas a little bit

182
00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,360
Speaker 2: more reserved, a little bit more reflective, a little bit

183
00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,520
Speaker 2: more cautious, because Saturn teaches us, you know, to slow

184
00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,839
Speaker 2: down and also teaches us the power of note. And

185
00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,560
Speaker 2: then for Leo's, you know, Leo's have been dealing with

186
00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:12,040
Speaker 2: Pluto and Aquarius, so like relationship stuff has definitely been

187
00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,520
Speaker 2: big on Leo's mind of like, it's not just about you, Leo.

188
00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,079
Speaker 2: You have to share the spotlight, you have to make

189
00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,040
Speaker 2: some room. I think that was the theme for Fire.

190
00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:27,080
Speaker 2: The next element would be what Air Earth so Earth,

191
00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,240
Speaker 2: that's Capricorn tourists and Virgo so Earth. I think Earth's

192
00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,240
Speaker 2: signs were faring a little bit better. With some exception.

193
00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,640
Speaker 2: I would put it asterisk next to Virgo because Virgo

194
00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:42,080
Speaker 2: was also being heavily eclipsed and affected by Saturn. That

195
00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,440
Speaker 2: Saturn Neptune and Pissy story. So all the mutable signs,

196
00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:51,360
Speaker 2: which would be Sagittarius, Virgo, Gemini, and Pisces have been eclipsed.

197
00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,640
Speaker 2: So whenever in the clip, when you're eclipsed, essentially it

198
00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:59,320
Speaker 2: means that your life is being changed in like major ways,

199
00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,360
Speaker 2: and and sometimes the change could be good, sometimes it's

200
00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,960
Speaker 2: not so good. But ultimately it's supposed to help with

201
00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,360
Speaker 2: your personal evolution, your personal development, your personal growth. But

202
00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,000
Speaker 2: as far as the Earth signs are concerned, I think

203
00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,320
Speaker 2: they were having a little bit more support from that

204
00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,520
Speaker 2: Burgo Pisces energy because Pisces is water, so when you

205
00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,600
Speaker 2: mix that energy of like water and earth together, it

206
00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,800
Speaker 2: creates more fertile ground to plant things in, to start

207
00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,720
Speaker 2: new things, to burst new things. So I think they

208
00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,800
Speaker 2: had a bit of a better time than us fire

209
00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:43,600
Speaker 2: signs did, and then air signs would be Aquarius, Gemini

210
00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,200
Speaker 2: and Libra. I think it was a bit of a

211
00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,960
Speaker 2: mixed bag for the Air signs. So Air is connected

212
00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:57,080
Speaker 2: to like communication ideas people. Air wants to circulate, right,

213
00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,480
Speaker 2: so we circulate in terms of you know, meeting and

214
00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,840
Speaker 2: you know mixing and mingling with people, circulating ideas, learning

215
00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:08,240
Speaker 2: new things information, right, That's a big thing with Air,

216
00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,760
Speaker 2: and I think for Aquarius is going through that. Pluto

217
00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,120
Speaker 2: and Aquarius, you know they're undergoing a big personal transformation

218
00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,280
Speaker 2: and just kind of like thinking about like themselves and

219
00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,320
Speaker 2: looking at themselves differently. Gemini also where it was visited

220
00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,000
Speaker 2: briefly by Uranus this year, so we had Neuranus and

221
00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,640
Speaker 2: Gemini for a few months this year, and I saw

222
00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:35,040
Speaker 2: a lot of Geminis challenging a lot of like old

223
00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,719
Speaker 2: things that like old habits, old patterns, because Uranus is

224
00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,640
Speaker 2: a planet that pushes you to change and sometimes it

225
00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,880
Speaker 2: could be very drastic change with Uranus. So that was

226
00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,920
Speaker 2: really interesting. And then Libras were also dealing with Saturn

227
00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,120
Speaker 2: in the relationship department, which is interesting because Libra is

228
00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,120
Speaker 2: the side that's connected to relationships, so they were also

229
00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,240
Speaker 2: going through maybe you know, losing some French, maybe making

230
00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,880
Speaker 2: some new friendships, you know, relationships, partnerships, those kinds of

231
00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,880
Speaker 2: things being challenged and tested. So yeah, oh and I

232
00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,600
Speaker 2: mentioned I didn't mention. I know, I talked a little

233
00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,280
Speaker 2: bit about Earth, but I didn't mention what Earth represents.

234
00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:18,280
Speaker 2: Earth is about stability and security. Earth is connected to

235
00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:24,120
Speaker 2: like our material world right for everything that you can touch, taste, see, smell,

236
00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,760
Speaker 2: financial security. A lot of times Earth signs that are

237
00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,280
Speaker 2: associated with like hard work and discipline because they have

238
00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,280
Speaker 2: a lot of patience and endurance to keep going. So yeah,

239
00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,240
Speaker 2: I just I wanted to double back on that. And

240
00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,160
Speaker 2: then final, last but not least, would be the water signs,

241
00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,320
Speaker 2: and that's Pisce Scorpio cancer. So I would say that

242
00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,680
Speaker 2: they also probably had a little bit of a better

243
00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,160
Speaker 2: time than the air signs and the fire signs did

244
00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,800
Speaker 2: because we had a lot of support for piscy and energy,

245
00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,920
Speaker 2: so a lot of Pisces, even though Saturn was visiting them,

246
00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,280
Speaker 2: I think it helped them to kind of advocate for

247
00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,000
Speaker 2: themselves more because Pisces are known to be very like

248
00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:13,000
Speaker 2: forgiving and understanding, and I think that Saturn being in

249
00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,480
Speaker 2: that sign really helped them to like kind of grow

250
00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,200
Speaker 2: more of a backbone, learning how to say no without

251
00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,880
Speaker 2: feeling guilty, recognizing they didn't have to rescue everyone all

252
00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,760
Speaker 2: the time. For cancers, cancers had Jupiter in their signs

253
00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,480
Speaker 2: since June of this year, so when Jupiter comes a

254
00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:38,200
Speaker 2: visit you, Jupiter can often bring new opportunities, opportunities for growth, success,

255
00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,840
Speaker 2: for even recognition like public recognition or sometimes fame, depending

256
00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,960
Speaker 2: on the kind of work or the kind of path

257
00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,600
Speaker 2: a person who is on. And then Scorpios, I think scorpios,

258
00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,840
Speaker 2: because of that emphasis on cancer and piss also felt

259
00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,800
Speaker 2: some support there. But Scorpios are also dealing with Pluto

260
00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,720
Speaker 2: ino queries too, so I think it's for them it

261
00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,160
Speaker 2: might have been a little bit of a mixed bag

262
00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,240
Speaker 2: of like new things coming in, but also like having

263
00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,720
Speaker 2: to let go of, like having to challenge some of

264
00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,080
Speaker 2: their fears, because sometimes Scorpios can be very risk averse.

265
00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, so the theme, you know, it was very

266
00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,320
Speaker 2: water and earth heavy. We have some fire and air

267
00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,520
Speaker 2: around like the spring and summer, but around that was

268
00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,880
Speaker 2: also like a lot of water and earth, So we

269
00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,640
Speaker 2: have a spectrum, I would say for this year. I

270
00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,000
Speaker 2: think in terms of the theme, what I saw just

271
00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:37,840
Speaker 2: across the board was this sort of battle between the old,

272
00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,640
Speaker 2: like letting go of old, like what feels familiar, like

273
00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,920
Speaker 2: overly familiar, being pushed out of our comfort zones, having

274
00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,800
Speaker 2: to let go of old habits, things that just don't

275
00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,480
Speaker 2: work anymore, and really having to embrace change and really

276
00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:59,800
Speaker 2: having to do things new, even if we didn't know

277
00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,080
Speaker 2: that the new thing would work right. So, I think

278
00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,919
Speaker 2: we saw a lot of that, And one of the

279
00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,119
Speaker 2: things that comes to mind is like, so, you know,

280
00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,159
Speaker 2: I'm thinking in terms of just like collective stuff, global stuff.

281
00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,040
Speaker 2: Politics here in New York City. You know, we just

282
00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,840
Speaker 2: got a new mayor who's going to be taking office

283
00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,919
Speaker 2: in January, and that was you know, it's a local election,

284
00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,040
Speaker 2: but it reverberated across the world because here you had

285
00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,000
Speaker 2: this young upstart, so to speak, who came in and

286
00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:32,240
Speaker 2: challenged the establishment and won right and gave people hope.

287
00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,479
Speaker 2: But also all of us, especially those of us here

288
00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,000
Speaker 2: in New York City, we were all like holding our breath,

289
00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,240
Speaker 2: like is he gonna do it? Is it gonna be?

290
00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,080
Speaker 2: It was very like we were white knuckling it the

291
00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,199
Speaker 2: entire time. And still we're celebrating the winds. Like I

292
00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,359
Speaker 2: saw other seats that got flipped blue, like Virginia and Jersey,

293
00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,920
Speaker 2: even down in like red red red Mississippi. I saw

294
00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,159
Speaker 2: that there were some breakthroughs there, and so it's like

295
00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,440
Speaker 2: we want some like people want new things. We're saying

296
00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,240
Speaker 2: that a lot of the old ways don't work, but

297
00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,160
Speaker 2: we're also having to really like keep putting one foot

298
00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,120
Speaker 2: in front of the other and still having to do

299
00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,680
Speaker 2: that even though we might not know that we might

300
00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,040
Speaker 2: not succeed. I think that that's been some of the theme,

301
00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,400
Speaker 2: like a large theme that I've seen this year.

302
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,439
Speaker 1: I appreciate you addressingment because that definitely was on my

303
00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,840
Speaker 1: list to ask about that. Right So, in addition to

304
00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,040
Speaker 1: the New York race, we saw you know, the first

305
00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,560
Speaker 1: tvl MAA in Detroit, profit being passed in California.

306
00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,280
Speaker 2: So it feels great that was really connecting you to this.

307
00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,120
Speaker 1: Getting away from the old and like ushering in this

308
00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,520
Speaker 1: new kind of age of what people are looking for

309
00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:40,720
Speaker 1: in terms of politics.

310
00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, totally, and I think that that's going to

311
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,920
Speaker 2: be a continuation for twenty twenty six. Right now, Murcury's

312
00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,120
Speaker 2: currently retrograde. Now there's like about five planets. I want

313
00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,760
Speaker 2: to say that's kindly retrograde right now, So like as

314
00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,160
Speaker 2: we go into twenty twenty six, like the planets will

315
00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:02,240
Speaker 2: slowly start turning direct bit by bit, And so what's

316
00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,240
Speaker 2: going to happen is like, as we go into the

317
00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,159
Speaker 2: first quarter of twenty twenty six, eventually Saturn is going

318
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,760
Speaker 2: to return back to Aris, Neptune eventually is going to

319
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,280
Speaker 2: follow in returning back to Aries as well. As we

320
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,960
Speaker 2: go into the spring, we're gonna have Uranus going back

321
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,680
Speaker 2: into Gemini. And then the emphasis for twenty twenty six

322
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,679
Speaker 2: is going to be primarily on fire and air, with

323
00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 2: the like the outer planets being in those sides. So

324
00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,680
Speaker 2: really what that means is just like there's going to

325
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,960
Speaker 2: be a bigger push for something new, for something different,

326
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 2: for something that we've never seen before, that we've never

327
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 2: done before, even though we are still dealing with some

328
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 2: very old problems, problems that are like centuries old at

329
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 2: this point, but people are going to want new solutions

330
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,159
Speaker 2: to those problems, fresh blood coming in. Right this is

331
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 2: a time like you know, we talked about like again

332
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 2: New York City or even just some of the elections

333
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 2: that have taken place right over the past month or so,

334
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 2: a lot of it was driven by young people, young

335
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:13,160
Speaker 2: people who weren't even engaged in politics, who were apathetic

336
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 2: about it, right, and we saw them being like, no,

337
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 2: like we want something different because you're leaving this world

338
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 2: to us. So hey, that's what makes me hopeful about

339
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 2: the future. That's something that gets lights some of the

340
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 2: fire in me of seeing people getting excited and wanting

341
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 2: something new and not only wanting it but actually putting

342
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 2: action to it as well.

343
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 1: You mentioned that as we're recording, we have entered a

344
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,719
Speaker 1: new mercury retrograde. We know that's always like a hot topic,

345
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,640
Speaker 1: lots of energy around that. How do we think people

346
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 1: will look back on this final mercury retrograde of twenty

347
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 1: twenty five anything notable?

348
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 2: So with this particular retrograde, it's actually happening between two signs.

349
00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 2: So the mercury retrograde has started out with while mercury

350
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 2: was isn't Sagittarius, and it's going to finish with mercury

351
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 2: being in Scorpio. Scorpio Sagittarius are two very different signs.

352
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 2: Scorpio tends to be more serious, more secretive, right, where

353
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 2: as Sagittarius is a little bit louder and Also, and

354
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 2: I say this as a Sangitarius, sometimes we don't take

355
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 2: things seriously. You know, we're the goofballs of the zodiac.

356
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 2: And one of the things that I have been noticing

357
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 2: gallows humor. That's a big thing for black folks. Gallows

358
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 2: humor tends to get us through some of the most

359
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 2: challenging times. And I think that that's one big thing

360
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 2: that I've seen during this Mercury retrograde of like all

361
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 2: these and again, you know, all these tapelines coming out

362
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 2: about all this really wild stuff and people still running

363
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 2: away to find some humor as a way of coping. Yeah. Yeah.

364
00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 2: And also I think with this mercury retrograde, revisiting some

365
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 2: of the headlines that we saw earlier in the year.

366
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 2: For example, you know with the Epstein files being brought

367
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 2: back up and that becoming a story yet again because

368
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 2: people were trying to sweep that under the drug and

369
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: so that's come up again. And I think in terms

370
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 2: of twenty and twenty six, so we are still going

371
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 2: to be having eclipses and prices and virgo, right, We're

372
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 2: still going to have a couple more of those eclipses,

373
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 2: but we're also going to be starting the eclipse cycle

374
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 2: that's going to be falling in the signs of Aquarius

375
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 2: and Leo. And when we talk about Aquarius and Leo

376
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 2: and what those eclipses are tied to, I think what

377
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 2: you're going to see, or what we're going to see

378
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 2: is more celebrities or like famous notable people falling from grace.

379
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 2: Like we've already kind of seen that already, and that's

380
00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: partially because of Pluto being in Aquarius. Everyday people challenging

381
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: some of those really powerful people, and I think we're

382
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: going to see that fight between democracy and dictatorship. That's

383
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: that struggle. That fight is going to continue to heat up.

384
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 2: The retrogrades. What they really do, especially with Mercury, is

385
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: just recall our attention back to something. So as we

386
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 2: close out the year, we're going to be thinking about

387
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 2: all the things that have taken place over this past

388
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 2: year and then thinking about, like, well, how do we

389
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 2: apply this information, how do we use this information effectively

390
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: for the end of the year.

391
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: So I want to revisit some of the things that

392
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: we talked about when we talked last year. So last

393
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: year you predicted Jupiter in cancer would bring us stability

394
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 1: through rootiness and family, ancestry, and spirituality. I mean, when

395
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: we look back at twenty twenty five, we saw explosions

396
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: like Ryan Coogler. Sinners became a cultural phenomenon. The met

397
00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: Gala had the super Fine theme Beyonce's Cowboy Carter. Do

398
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: you feel like those were demonstrations of what you were

399
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: talking about in terms of Jupiter.

400
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. I think that there was this sort of

401
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: emphasis on returning into our roots, so to speak, like

402
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: going back and taking nuggets from the past and like

403
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 2: making them new in a way. I think that also

404
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: was also a contribution of Neptune and Aries as well,

405
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 2: because Neptune is associated with like the collective ideal, the

406
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 2: collective dream, and also art is also falls under that umbello.

407
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 2: When we talk about Neptune and Sinners. Well, I remember

408
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: the day that it came out. I was looking at

409
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: the chart for the release and that Neptune and Aries

410
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 2: was really I mean, Aries was really strong in that

411
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: chart in particular, which really spoke to like how groundbreaking

412
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 2: that movie was, the first of its kind, the first

413
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: it was just hitting so many like check marks in

414
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: terms of like how new and innovative it was and

415
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 2: had people talking for months. I saw. I think I

416
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: saw it in the theater maybe about seven times because

417
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: I was so blown away by it, you know, and

418
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: it was just like yes, especially and I think wanting

419
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: sort of a renaissance in art, right, because I think

420
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 2: for a really long time that was something that we

421
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: had spoke about before too, about how art has been

422
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: kind of suffering lately, like things don't feel new, things

423
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 2: kind of feel like it's just being pumped out by

424
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: a machine. And I think that yeah, between Jupiter entry

425
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 2: into cancer and that Neptune and Air story, I think

426
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: it helped bring a resurgence of art and artistry and

427
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 2: like going back to our history to reclaim some things

428
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 2: and bringing it here to like heal and move the people.

429
00:25:50,160 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: More. From our conversation after the break, I feel like

430
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: there was a bit of a competition here on the

431
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: podcast production team about who saw Center's most. Oh, I

432
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: feel like at least won that competition. But here you

433
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: say that you all pretty so times in the theater.

434
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 1: Is there anything that kind of felt especially compelling to you?

435
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: As an astrologer?

436
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: Whenever I see like movies or TV shows that I

437
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: really like, I always look up the birth dates of

438
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 2: the people involved, right, and because I'm always curious to know,

439
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: like what is going on in their charts and what's

440
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,239
Speaker 2: going on in the sky that's bringing them to the

441
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: forefront at this particular time. And so even before I

442
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: even get to the twin part, I think with Ryan Kugler,

443
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: I know that he's a Gemini. I can't really remember

444
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: the rest of his chart, but like everybody who was involved,

445
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 2: from Ryan Kugler to wan of Yasaku to Michael B.

446
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: Jordan's like everybody was having some major like blips in

447
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: the chart, which I thought was pretty amazing. And I

448
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: think Michael B Jordan his performance for him to be

449
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: playing a double role, and I've seen actors do that

450
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: before or where they play a double role, but I

451
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: really like he did it so well that I forgot

452
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: that I was watching one actor, and that, to me,

453
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: I think really swell because I know that he's an

454
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: Aquarious son and I mentioned before that Pluto is currently

455
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: an Aquarius, and that's like how that's driving and shaping

456
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: people born under that sign. And I think that the

457
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 2: power of Pluto that transformative power, right, because when we

458
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: talk about being an actor, you have to transform, right,

459
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: Like that's what makes the character compelling on the screen,

460
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 2: where you make people forget where they are, you know,

461
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: or who you are, like as a celebrity, and they're

462
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: just watching that story. I think that that was something

463
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: that came through. It was a transformative experience, you know,

464
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: at being an audience member being someone watching the film, right.

465
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: So I thought that that was really moving and really powerful.

466
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: And then the talk about the twins, So I know,

467
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: in like African folklore they talk about like the twins

468
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 2: representing sort of like the light and dark, right, And

469
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: we saw that in terms of like the costuming and

470
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: like Stack being the more I guess mischievous one whereas

471
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 2: like Smoke was more serious and like grounded one. Right.

472
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: But also like in astrology, Gemini represents the twins right,

473
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: and in when we talk about like that from the

474
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: astrological lens, Gemini is connected to the trickster and that archetype.

475
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: And so we saw that show up in the film

476
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: as well, not only just with the twins, but also

477
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: with Remick coming in right trying to trick his way

478
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: into the fold. So the astrology brain was working what

479
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: I saw that film.

480
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: For sure, you can imagine, I can imagine so something

481
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: else that we have seen have like this major moment

482
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: this year, though it feels like this is a continuation

483
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: almost every year. It's like lots of conversations around romantic relationships,

484
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: right so explosion and wedding content. You know, there's this

485
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: whole conversation right now happening, like is having a boyfriend

486
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: embarrassing this whole vulgue article?

487
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: You know.

488
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: So it just feels like there's definitely been like a

489
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: ramp up in relationship content and conversation. Is there anything

490
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: that you can point to in the stars that kind

491
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: of made romantic relationships have this main character moment in

492
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five?

493
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's great question. So there's a couple of things.

494
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: I mean, whenever we talk about astrology, there's always like

495
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: a bunch of different things going on at one time.

496
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: But just to pinpoint a few, So we have started

497
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: the year with both a venus and a Mars retrograde.

498
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: So in astrology, Venus is associated with love and relationships,

499
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: you know, our values in terms of what we want

500
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: in life and what we want in a partner, our

501
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: sense of self worth. Mars has a lot to do

502
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: with attraction and also how we sort of handle our anger,

503
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: or how we deal with things or take action in relationships,

504
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: or how we might even bump heads with a partner.

505
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: So when you have those planets retrograde, it's usually a

506
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: time of reevaluating what you want in a partner, what

507
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: you want in your life, does it make sense to

508
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: be single, do you even want a partner? You know,

509
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: all these things come up, and also, like you know,

510
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: with Mars retrograde, sometimes it can like fizzle out, like

511
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: sexual attraction. We might be like I wanted this, but

512
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: now I don't want that. You know, all these kinds

513
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: of things come up for review. And so I think

514
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: with us starting out the year that was from like

515
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: January through April that happened, I think that pushed a

516
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: lot of people that rethink what they wanted. And then

517
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: when we got to Jupiter enter in cancer and cancer

518
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: being a sign that's connected to home, family, emotional bonding,

519
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: how we want to feel in connection to other human beings.

520
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: I think that also put an emphasis of people wanting

521
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 2: to grow together, wanting to grow a family, wanting to

522
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: build a home together, wanting to get engaged, wanting to

523
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: get married. And then when we talk about commitment, Saturn

524
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: is the planet that's often associated with commitment and astrology.

525
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: With Saturn being in Pisces for most of the year

526
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: and giving support to jupinan cancer, I think that also

527
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: brought up not only questions about what do we want

528
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: in partnership, but also again seeing people wanting to build

529
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: partnerships and to nurture their partnerships and to date better

530
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: partners as well.

531
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: Okay, so it sounds like we can expect maybe some

532
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: of that to continue as we hit in twenty six.

533
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. So well, we'll have Saturn, we'll be in Pisces

534
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: and until mid February, and then it goes back into

535
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: to Aries, and then we'll have Jupiter in cancer until

536
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: June thirtieth of twenty twenty six, and then from there

537
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: it'll go into Leo. I mean, Leo is also a

538
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: sign that's connected to sex and datings, but Leo next

539
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: year might be kind of struggling a bit, especially when

540
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: we talk about the eclipse stuff. So again, people are

541
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: going to really be thinking long and hard about like

542
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: who they want to give their heart to, if they

543
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: want to give their heart to anyone. You know. I

544
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: saw a lot of women, especially black women, being like

545
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: I just want peace, you know, like I don't want

546
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: to be bothered with anybody, you know, especially if they're

547
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 2: not willing to come correct. So I think that's going

548
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: to be a continuation in the new year as well.

549
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: I got it. So I have a little bit of

550
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: a repid ish fire game that I want to play

551
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: with you. So the team has done a little bit

552
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: of research, and according to us, there are seven major

553
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: planetary shifts happening in twenty twenty six. So I want

554
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: to read them all to you and then have you

555
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: give us maybe three words that describe each of these shifts,

556
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: and then we can kind of talk more about it generally. Okay, okay,

557
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: all right. So the first one is Neptune re entering

558
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: aries in January or January twenty six.

559
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: So Neptune entering areas, I would say, artistic renaissance, our

560
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: ideals in terms of progress, so progress, like, what do

561
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: we want in terms of fresh, new innovative, So I

562
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: would say that those would be the words with Neptune areas,

563
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: fresh new innovative.

564
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Saturn re enters aries.

565
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: Personal responsibility, Yeah, personal responsibility. I'm trying to think if

566
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: there are anything else Rogue governments rogue governments, rogue leaders. Yeah,

567
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: those are probably the top themes I would associate that.

568
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: Okay, Uranus re enters and I.

569
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: So technology advancement reframing our relationship with social media and

570
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: also ethics in tech. I think that's also something.

571
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, this next one, I don't think we talked about,

572
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: So I feel like we may need a definition. So

573
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: Chiron enters Taurus. What are we referring to when we

574
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: talk about Chiron?

575
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: So Chiron is actually a more modern astrological concept, if

576
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: you will. Chiron, I believe, was discovered in like nineteen

577
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: seventy seven, and it was an asteroid. So there's a

578
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 2: branch of astrology that actually incorporates asteroids in addition to

579
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 2: the planets where we talk about like human behavior and

580
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: you know, personal development and things of that nature. So

581
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: Chiron in itself represents a wound, so we call like

582
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 2: Chiron the wounded healer. So the myth or the story

583
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: behind Chiron was that Kiren was a great teacher and

584
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: a great healer and could heal others but couldn't heal himself.

585
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: So whenever I think about Kinraen, sometimes I think about

586
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: it as being like advice that we can give, but

587
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: we don't know how to take our own advice. You know,

588
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: sometimes Kurine could represent like a place where we feel

589
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: awkward or self conscious, but by doing the thing that

590
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: we might be afraid to do or scared to do,

591
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: we actually like could heal that wound. So Taurus is

592
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: a sign that is connected to self worth. It's a

593
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: Venus rule sign. So if you remember value self worth,

594
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 2: those are big Taurus themes. So when we talk about

595
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: Chinen and Taurus, to me, piggybacks off of some of

596
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: what we've been learning while Uranus has been a Taurus,

597
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: and some of that is connected to our value system.

598
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: And our society is very broken, extremely broken. We value

599
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: the wrong things. Everything that's going on right now is

600
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: a sort of consequence or a repercussion of our skewed values.

601
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: And so Chiron being in Tauris I think will push

602
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 2: us to kind of heal that within us, right, like

603
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: the ways of which we value wealth, the ways of

604
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: which we value power, the ways of which we value

605
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: things that aren't really worth it to some degree, right,

606
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: And so I think that that will be a big

607
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: theme that comes up while Chiron is intourists.

608
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: More from our conversation after the break. What about Jupiter

609
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: entering Leo.

610
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 2: So Jupiter is the planet of growth and opportunity, right,

611
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 2: Whatever Jupiter touches, it wants to expand. So that could

612
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: be good and it can also be bad. You know,

613
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: it's two sides to every point. And so Jupiter and

614
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 2: Leo can be like more creativity, more fun, more romance,

615
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: more confidence, but it can also be more of more ego,

616
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: excess over indulgence, more me, me, me.

617
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: So it could go two ways, right, right, Okay, what

618
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: about lunar nodes entering Leo and Aquarius?

619
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: So the lunar nodes, that kind of goes back to

620
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: what I was saying about the battle between me and we,

621
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: the me and the we, the democracy and the dictatorship,

622
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: that battle and the leader right or the power of

623
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: many versus the power of the few. So yeah, I

624
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: think that sums it up.

625
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: Okay. And then the seventh one is Venus retrograde through

626
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: Scorpio and Libra.

627
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: So Venus retrograde again is all about reevaluations. So what

628
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: are we reevaluating? We are evaluating our relationships intimacy and

629
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: our relationship to power. Right, because Scorpio's power Scorpio is

630
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: also connected to intimacy and libra is relationships and how

631
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: we connect with each other.

632
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: So mecca of these trendsits which one has you most

633
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: excited and maybe which one has you a little nervous.

634
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I'm most excited that Jupiter and Leo brings

635
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: back a little fun. I'm a Sagittarius, I'm a fire sign.

636
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: I also have some strong Leo on my chart, and

637
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm like, where is the fun? So

638
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. I kind of hope. I don't know.

639
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: I'm not holding out a lot of hope for the one,

640
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: but I do wish that Jubilia would bring back some joy.

641
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: The art piece is really big for me. I am

642
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: a creative person. I love art, music, film, photography, whatever.

643
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: I would love to see a renaissance in that and

644
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: that if the popularity of Sinners was any indication of

645
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: that sort of resurgence of that renaissance, I would love

646
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: to see more of that. I think what else with

647
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 2: the North Not and Aquarius and the Aquarius eclipses coming

648
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: in again, I really am excited about the focus on

649
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: community and the everyday person doing their part to make

650
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 2: the world better. And that also ties into what I

651
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 2: was saying about Saturn being in areas and like personal responsibility.

652
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: I think that, you know, as we go into this

653
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: new year, this is a good time to think about, like,

654
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: you know, what is our personal responsibility in terms of

655
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: making the world better? Like how can we play our

656
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: own individual role in that, even if it's something small. So, like,

657
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 2: for example, I had just watched a Netflix documentary called

658
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 2: By Now, which was talking about like the effects of

659
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 2: consumerism on our environment, on our wallets, on other countries,

660
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 2: and things of that nature, and how we should all

661
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: be in the practice of consuming as less as possible

662
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: because there's just too much junk, there's too much trash.

663
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: There's just too much in the world right now for

664
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: it to go anywhere. And so I was thinking about, Okay,

665
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: well how do I hold on? I just had to

666
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 2: buy a new cell phone because the other one that

667
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: had broke down mercury, and so I'm like, Okay, how

668
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: do I make this one last beyond the two or

669
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: three years, like when it clunks out? How do I

670
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 2: make that? You know? So I've just been thinking about,

671
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 2: like how do I make things last. I've also been

672
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: shopping a lot less, and that was something that we

673
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: had spoken about in our last session when I was saying, like,

674
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: this is a year where people have to be where

675
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna have to be very smart and

676
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: sort of conscientious about where our money is going and

677
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: what we're spending money on. Right, So shout out to

678
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: Target because we you know, we boycotted Target because we

679
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 2: were just like, you want to roll back your DEI

680
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: we don't need our money, right, And so we saw

681
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: what happens when we collectively come together to say we're

682
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: going to take our spending power and use it in

683
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: other ways, right, And I really believe that that's one

684
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 2: of the biggest ways to get like these like larger

685
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: corporations to listen, you had to hit them in the wallet, right.

686
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, just thinking about like what is our personal

687
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: responsibility or individual responsibility, and how do we can use

688
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 2: that and come together with other people, right to make

689
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: things move, to make things happen.

690
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: Mm hm, And any in particular make you nervous.

691
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I'm concerned a little bit about the arenas

692
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 2: in Gemini. I saw a little bit a bit earlier

693
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: this year, and I saw like how a lot of

694
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: these like tech giants and corporations are trying to amass

695
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: even more power than they already have in terms of

696
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: getting our private information and keeping tabs on us, and

697
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: how they're trying to build a super computer that can

698
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 2: you know, getting every like facial recognition and keep especially

699
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: because we are under a authoritarian regime at this point,

700
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: and one of the tactics that they use is intimidation, right,

701
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: And I've seen people talk about how they've been getting

702
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: visits from the FBI. So these kinds of things in

703
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: terms of like what tech can do, I am concerned about,

704
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 2: especially also in terms of how it affects climate. And

705
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: we've seen like the storms, hurricanes and things like that,

706
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: like natural disasters getting worse and worse. You know what

707
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 2: just happened for example, Right, So when I was saying,

708
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: you know, uraneto Gemini and like ethics, you know, Uranus

709
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: is a planet that's known for like instability and things

710
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: just happening like at hoc. And so I think there

711
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: definitely needs to be like some deep reregulation with respect

712
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: to how we engage with tech AI right, like that,

713
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: we saw how scary that can get. And I know

714
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: that there are people who say, like, well, we need

715
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 2: AI and we need to like and on one hand,

716
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, I get that, but we also need

717
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 2: some regulations around like how we're engaging with this, So

718
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 2: I'm concerned about that and also overreliance on social media too.

719
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: I think it's just gotten way and healthy in terms

720
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: of how we use it and engage with it. So

721
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: that's one thing. And then you know, I'm always nervous

722
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 2: when the eclipses come around because the eclipses they shake

723
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 2: things up. They shake things up, and it can be

724
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: very very stressful, you know, not only just in terms

725
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: of like collectively, but also like in our individual lives.

726
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 2: So whenever the eclipses come around, my role with them

727
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: for folks is to always say, like, try to keep

728
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: your schedule as light as possible for those two weeks,

729
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 2: Try to rest, try to unplug, try to self care.

730
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: You know, needs to be like, like, don't neglect the

731
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 2: self care. Because eclipses they when they happen, even though

732
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: the day of an eclipse, you know, something big might

733
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: necessarily happen on the day of Because eclipses have a

734
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 2: six month lifespan, the energy still is pretty heavy. It

735
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: can be very hard, like physically mentally a lot of

736
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: times they like they are astrologers to talk about like

737
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: if people are dealing with mental health issues, for this

738
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: to be a time where they have to take extra

739
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 2: care because the eclipses can be triggering in that way.

740
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, the eclipse is always always like batten down

741
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: and hatches. So yeah, so that's probably what I'm most

742
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: concerned about.

743
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And any advice for navigating twenty twenty six given

744
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 1: these transits.

745
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think it Kada goes back to a

746
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 2: little bit to what I was saying earlier about there's

747
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: been a time to really take a hard look at

748
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: our lives and really think about, like what have we

749
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: been clinging to and holding on to and afraid to

750
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: move away from, or afraid to let go, or afraid

751
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 2: to try, and really thinking about like letting those things go,

752
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: finding the courage to do something new, to do something different,

753
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: even if we might not be one hundred percent certain

754
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: that that is going to work right for us, not

755
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: to stay stuck in the old way, in the old

756
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: thinking and the old or even just kind of like

757
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: doing the thing that sometimes I even do to myself

758
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 2: where I'm like shutting myself down before I even begin

759
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: a thing or even do a thing, you know what

760
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: I mean. Like with the entry of these outer planets

761
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: going into fire and air, it means things are going

762
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: to be moving at a much faster pace than we've

763
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: been accustomed to. And it means that there is a

764
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: need for new ideas. There's a need for like I said,

765
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: new blood, there's a need for change and trying things

766
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: and experimenting with things and seeing like what works, what

767
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: doesn't work? What can we do better? Right, rather than

768
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 2: going with this old way of doing things of well

769
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,959
Speaker 2: that that's never worked before, so why bothered? Well maybe

770
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: it might work now, maybe third times to charm, maybe

771
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: ten times to charm. We don't know, right, Like this

772
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: is a time, you know, to get curious, us to

773
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: be brave enough to step outside your comfort zone, to

774
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: embrace something new and kind of think about Yeah, like

775
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: what have you been doing for too long that has

776
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: become familiar, that has become comfortable, but it's not really

777
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: helping you or working for you anymore. That's what you

778
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: want to work on, like changing?

779
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that there really speaks to the energy

780
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: there is around like manifesting things right now, Like I'm

781
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: definitely seeing lots more conversations. Are there any of these

782
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: trances that lend themselves nicely too, like doing a lot

783
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: of manifesting or trying to bring some of these new

784
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: things to life.

785
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: I know Saturn gets a bad rap in astrology because Saturn,

786
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: I guess said, you know, makes us get real. Saturn

787
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: is a reality check. Saturn sobers us up, so to speak.

788
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: But Saturn is also useful. We need Saturn to figure

789
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: out like, Okay, I need to cut this out. You know,

790
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: I need to be done with this. I'm ready. You

791
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 2: know this needs to your hard no in order to

792
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: figure out what your yeses are? Right, working with that

793
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: Saturday and areas. It could also be because of working

794
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: with Neptune as well in terms of tapping into your creativity.

795
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: And creativity doesn't always have to mean like artistic, like

796
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: it can be. They could also just be kind of

797
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 2: like thinking outside the box. Right. The same thing with

798
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: Uranus and Gemini. You know, Gemini is the sign that's

799
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 2: connected to like how we communicate and ideas and how

800
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: we think about things, and Uranus is like it's time

801
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: for some fresh ideas and new new approaches, right, like

802
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: stop sticking with the same old, same old thing, because

803
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: that's done. That's a done deal, even with the eclipses

804
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: that that you know in the nodes going between Aquarius

805
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 2: and Leo. Right, Aquarius is not only just connected with

806
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: the groups or like community or the collective, but also

807
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: the future. So thinking about like what do we what

808
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: kind of future do we want? Right and do we

809
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 2: even imagine that that future is even possible or are

810
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: we still stuck on like this thing of that can

811
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 2: never work, This will never happen, this will never change,

812
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: Like we don't need that kind of thinking. So if

813
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: we want to manifest right, Like the big role of

814
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: manifestation is that you have to have the mindset for it.

815
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: So this is a time to like challenge like our

816
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: own sort of internal beliefs, our own internal thoughts that

817
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: we have that keeps us from achieving the kind of

818
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 2: things that we want.

819
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: You know, something you mentioned, Metho was that you feel

820
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: like we have to be mindful of like examining our

821
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: relationship to social media, like has it gone too far?

822
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: And you know you cannot scroll very long before you

823
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: wrote across a video with somebody talking about astrological predictions

824
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: or just like people say all kinds of things right

825
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: and right? Like, what suggestions do you have for how

826
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: people can vet the kinds of content they're consuming online

827
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 1: related to astrology question.

828
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: I think it really boils down to is it helping you?

829
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: Or is it stoking more fear in you? Is it

830
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: designed to get you to like rage and get angry?

831
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: Like is it rage bait? Is it clickbait? Is it

832
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 2: actually helping you in your life or to give context

833
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 2: to like what's going on? Or is it just adding

834
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: to the noise? Right? Is it coming from a place

835
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: of like I'm sharing this information because I want to

836
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: help people, or I'm positioning myself as the all knowing,

837
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: tell all be all guru kind of person. Because with

838
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: us going towards this emphasis of a prairius, you know,

839
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: as we go in twenty twenty six, it's going to

840
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 2: be less about like just one person being that egocentric

841
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 2: sort of delivery and more about like, is this actually

842
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: helping people? I remember we spoke about this before. I

843
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: haven't seen it as much lately, but just being mindful

844
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: of people who who prey on your vulnerabilities, who want

845
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: you to buy a reading or want you to spend

846
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: money on something because they're speaking to an insecurity or

847
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: they're speaking to a place where you're feeling vulnerable right now,

848
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 2: you know, to like pause, making sure that you take

849
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 2: your time, like if you decide to work with an

850
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 2: astrologe or you're following anyone, whatever, but just giving yourself

851
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 2: a time to check in with your own intuition and

852
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: seeing if that there's an alignment there, because if there's not,

853
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 2: chances are that that's probably not a person that you

854
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 2: should be absorbing their content.

855
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I always appreciate you joining us at

856
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: this time of the year. Make it feels really good

857
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: to reflect on what did we talk about last year,

858
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: but also what do we have to look forward to

859
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: you for the next year. Please remind us where can

860
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: we stay connected with you, any new work that we

861
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 1: should be on the lookout for from you.

862
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: I always look forward to our chats, even though sometimes

863
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: I might not always deliver the best name was. But

864
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: if you want to find me, you can find me

865
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: at my website mylifecreated dot com. I'm abandoned Twitter. I'm

866
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: on Blue Sky now, but I barely share anything there.

867
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: I've been kind of in a cool phase as of

868
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 2: late and just working on stuff behind the scene and

869
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 2: more like family related stuff. But I am doing readings,

870
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 2: so folks are interested in reading. Yeah, they can find

871
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: me at my website, mylife Created dot com.

872
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: Perfect. Well, thank you so much. We'll be shorting clicking

873
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: that in the show notes.

874
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: Thank you.

875
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm so happy Mecca was able to join me for

876
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: today's episode. To learn more about her and her work,

877
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 1: visit the show notes at Therapy for Blackgirls dot com

878
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,479
Speaker 1: slash session for forty one, and don't forget to text

879
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: two of your girls right now and tell them to

880
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: check out the episode. Did you know that you could

881
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: leave us a voicemail with your questions or suggestions for

882
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: the podcast. If you have topics you think we should discuss,

883
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: drop us a message at Memo dot fm slash Therapy

884
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: for Black Girls and let us know what's on your mind.

885
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: We just might feature it on the podcast. If you're

886
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: looking for a therapist near your area, visit our therapist

887
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: directory at Therapy for Blackgirls dot com slash directory. Don't

888
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: forget to follow us over on Instagram at Therapy for

889
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: Black Girls and come on over and join us in

890
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: our Patreon community. You can get exclusive updates behind the scenes,

891
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: content and much more. Join us at Community dot Therapy

892
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: for Blackgirls dot Com. This episode was produced by Elise

893
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: Ellis Indechubu and Tyree Rush. Editing was done by Dennison Bradford.

894
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: Thank y'all so much for joining me again this week.

895
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: I look forward to continuing this conversation with you all

896
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: real soon. Take good care.