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Speaker 1: have a Crystal.

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Speaker 4: Indeed we do. Once again.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be covering the Iran war from every aspect.

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Speaker 2: Trump out with some new comments saying that it will

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Speaker 2: be a mutual decision between US and Israel when this

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Speaker 2: war ends.

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Speaker 4: So that's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 2: We've also got Trump's disrespectful display at the dignified transfer

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Speaker 2: of service member remains. We'll show you that and how

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Speaker 2: Fox News try to cover it up. Water sources are

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Speaker 2: now being attacked. This is extraordinarily dire for a region

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Speaker 2: that does not have sufficient freshwater there locally, so we'll

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Speaker 2: break down what that means for the war and escalation.

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Speaker 2: We're also going to have an analyst oil analyst on

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Speaker 2: for the entire economy. Extremely dire warnings from a very

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Speaker 2: that one. A new Supreme leader has been chosen, true

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Speaker 2: to Parsi, is going to join us to break down

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Speaker 2: what that means and also what happened with Ron's attempted

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Speaker 2: de escalation in the region. Jeffrey Sachs believes we are

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Speaker 2: already in a world war. We will discuss and debate,

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Speaker 2: and Lindsey Graham is a psychopathic warhawk and also apparently

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: especially if they want to know what's going on with Iran.

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Speaker 3: But as you said, let's start with these new comments

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Speaker 3: from Donald Trump, the President, onboard Air Force one on

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Speaker 3: Here he is talking about boots on the ground, refusing

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 4: Think the map of Iran will look the same the.

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Speaker 6: Worst complicated enough without having getting the currents in.

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Speaker 2: Both And do you think the map of Iran looks

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Speaker 5: I can't tell you probably not circumstances.

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Speaker 1: You said it ground troops. How are you thinking about that?

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Speaker 5: Why don't you want to talk about it now? I

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Speaker 5: but we're not looking to settle. They'd like to settle.

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Speaker 4: From Uranians are concerned that the Kurds will carve out

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Speaker 6: We're not looking to the Kurds going in. We're very

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Speaker 3: So completely all over the map comments, but the most

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Speaker 3: ruled it out themselves. The Iraqi Kurds were like, hey man,

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Speaker 3: Because they're right in the range of all of these

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Speaker 3: Is an attack on the polity itself, not just on

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Speaker 1: There's been no.

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Speaker 3: Widespread protests, despite the fact that everybody promised it, and

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Speaker 3: switch up for escalation, which of course is disastrous for them,

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Speaker 3: disastrous for US. I'm another American Service member was just

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Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, and you've had in addition to those seven

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Speaker 2: There's a hospital that's been closed for labor and delivery

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Speaker 2: so that's already where we are. I also have to

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Speaker 2: just say, you know, for these like diaspora Iranian monarchist

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Speaker 2: what like, you thought that Trump really cared about freedom

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Speaker 2: for the Iranian people. You know, the people were the

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Speaker 2: they're have an oil rained down on them, apocalyptic fires

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Speaker 2: like it genuinely looks like a literal movie of a healthscape.

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Speaker 2: That's your you know, your Iranian freedom. I'm sure the

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Speaker 2: And it speaks to the fact that the goal now

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Speaker 2: The only reason, as you said, the Kurds aren't getting

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Speaker 2: but they're like, listen, you people have, especially Trump in particular,

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Speaker 2: how many times are we gonna have to get the

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Speaker 2: Felfer It again award before we say, you know what

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Speaker 4: So it has now been.

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Speaker 2: Confirmed that it was the US that struck that girls

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Speaker 2: analyzes and now we have actual video of the Tomahawk missile.

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Speaker 2: Those come from US, not for Israel, not from Iran,

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Speaker 2: those come from US. Okay, Tomahawk missile that was dropped

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Speaker 2: on that school. And recall also there's reporting this was

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Speaker 2: a double tap strike. So in any case, this is

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Speaker 2: now incontrovertible, you know, as much as you can learn

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Speaker 2: anything definitively in war. We now though this is the case,

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Speaker 2: Trump gets asked about it and what he did, what

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Speaker 4: He just outright lies. Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 1: Did the United States bomb a girls elementary school in

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Speaker 1: southern Iran on the first day of the war and

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Speaker 1: kill one hundred and seventy five people.

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Speaker 6: Based on what I've seen, that was done by i Ran?

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Speaker 1: Is that true, mister, except it was Iran who did that.

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Speaker 3: Certainly investigating, but the only side that targets civilians is Iran.

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Speaker 1: We think it was.

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Speaker 6: We think it was done by Iran's very inaccurate. As

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Speaker 6: you know, with their munitions, they have no accuracy whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: Who's done by Iraq disgusting, So you saw Pete Hegstath

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Speaker 3: won't back them up on that investigation since we're investigating it. Look,

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Speaker 3: I mean, as you said, there's a video, it's literally

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Speaker 3: a Tomahawk missile. There's only one person in the entire

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Speaker 3: I checked, that's the only time that it could have happened.

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Speaker 3: And all of the background on the strike makes sense

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Speaker 3: not to devolve too much, but it shows you the danger.

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Speaker 3: And also I've always warned about this with air campaigns

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Speaker 3: denying that, but also there's a lot of error. So

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Speaker 3: let's say you have this IRGC base which has a school.

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Speaker 7: Mothers out there are worried that we're gonna have a draft,

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Speaker 3: Wisely keeping his options on the table for a draft.

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Speaker 2: that you have some sort of ground invasion to try

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Speaker 2: to obtain and destroy this nuclear material so that you

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Speaker 2: can have your mission accomplished moment there. Number three, I

435
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Speaker 2: guess is that you like deploy a nuke or something

436
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Speaker 2: completely insane like that, which we're going to talk about

437
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Speaker 2: a little bit more of the possibility of that in

438
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Speaker 2: World War three, which quite frankly, at this point, you

439
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Speaker 2: can't put anything with Netanyahu and Trump in charge. You

440
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Speaker 2: cannot put anything off the table because the level of

441
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Speaker 2: death and destruction that these men are comfortable with is

442
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Speaker 2: completely insane. I think Trump thinking about his legacy, I

443
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Speaker 2: don't think he cares whether that legacy is like as

444
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Speaker 2: a good leader or as as like notoriously evil leader.

445
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Speaker 2: I think he's just more interested in leaving a gigantic

446
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Speaker 2: mark on the world and wanting to be remembered, and

447
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Speaker 2: so listen, if you're going in that direction, being the

448
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Speaker 2: you know, first president since World War Two to drop

449
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Speaker 2: a nuke again. I'm not saying that's what's gonna happen,

450
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Speaker 2: but I don't think that you can fly.

451
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule it out the table.

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Speaker 3: I actually wouldn't rule it out, not just because of Trump,

453
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Speaker 3: but really because of Baby. Let's put a seven up

454
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Speaker 3: there on the screen. Trump says to the Times of

455
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Speaker 3: Times of Israel, it'll be a mutual decision with Netna

456
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Speaker 3: who regarding when the war ends so America literally, you know,

457
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Speaker 3: we're giving up all of our sovereignty. It's a mutual

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Speaker 3: decision with bby netnya who literally a client state, not

459
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Speaker 3: exactly somebody who's an equal ally slash partner in this

460
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Speaker 3: entire thing. But he's the one who's gone all in.

461
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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk later about those oil strikes. It was

462
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Speaker 3: Israel apparently, and they're saying, oh, the US, they would

463
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Speaker 3: be very upset about the strike, fake whatever. If you're

464
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Speaker 3: not gonna do anything about it, don't don't. Don't leak

465
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Speaker 3: it to baracra V, just like Joe Biden's entire presidency did.

466
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Speaker 3: But their level of barbarism which we all sawt Remember

467
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Speaker 3: it's not just Gaza, because Gaza was barbarism at it

468
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Speaker 3: like a humanitarian level, but their barbarism in terms of

469
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Speaker 3: their like gangster action in the whole region is really

470
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Speaker 3: what showed. It's like, oh, these fuckers will do anything,

471
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Speaker 3: ye like Doha, Qatar, Jordan's or Lebanon, like all.

472
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Speaker 4: Over the Lebanon right now.

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Speaker 3: Literally, I mean they're saying we're going to turn Dahia

474
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Speaker 3: area of Beirut into communists. This is smoke trick. They

475
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Speaker 3: say this stuff out loud. How they're going to level.

476
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Speaker 3: I've seen, you know, hotels, buildings just completely collapsing in

477
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Speaker 3: the middle of that city. So that is why I

478
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Speaker 3: actually wouldn't rule out anything, because you never know where

479
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Speaker 3: Israel will force your.

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Speaker 2: Well, and especially when you layer on the number of

481
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Speaker 2: like religious fanatics who are wanting to bring about the

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Speaker 2: end times, Like, how can you rule anything out? And

483
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Speaker 2: that's you know, that's an Israel and that's here too.

484
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Speaker 2: So I again, I sort of feel like I had

485
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Speaker 2: a blind spot for how much that ideology is significant,

486
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Speaker 2: both in terms of the some of the base of

487
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Speaker 2: the Republican Party, but more importantly in terms of the leadership.

488
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Speaker 2: I mean, you think about how couldy you think about

489
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Speaker 2: heg Seth, you think about the you know, Trump's spiritual advisor,

490
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Speaker 2: and then he has this messianic vision of himself. This

491
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Speaker 2: scary stuff that we're playing with, very scary stuff that

492
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Speaker 2: they're playing with.

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Speaker 1: Let's turn out to Donald Trump here. This should be

494
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Speaker 1: a national scandal. You know.

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Speaker 3: I thought that the remember what the tan suit Latte salute,

496
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Speaker 3: all that stuff under Obama?

497
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Speaker 1: That was Fox News fair.

498
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Speaker 3: Here was Trump at the dignified transfer literally dead American

499
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Speaker 3: serviceman where he's supposed to be saluting, and he's wearing

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Speaker 3: a baseball cap.

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Speaker 1: Take a look at this.

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Speaker 3: I mean, every other person is not wearing a baseball cap,

503
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Speaker 3: because that's not what you're supposed to do in this

504
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Speaker 3: type of situation. The USA cap apparently it's the exact

505
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Speaker 3: same USA cap that was worn whenever he announced that war,

506
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Speaker 3: remember in the middle of the night, literally at what

507
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Speaker 3: two am, and then we didn't hear from him for

508
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Speaker 3: like twenty four hours on what the hell was going

509
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Speaker 3: on there. What's even crazier is this Fox News and

510
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Speaker 3: the way that they covered it, where they actually played

511
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Speaker 3: old footage of the dignified transfer, apparently to cover up

512
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Speaker 3: the baseball cap. Let's go ahead and put this up

513
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Speaker 3: here on the screen so as you guys can see

514
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Speaker 3: all here.

515
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Speaker 1: They used old footage of.

516
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Speaker 3: A previous dignified transfer, apparently to mislead the audience about

517
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Speaker 3: the fact that he did wear a baseball cap during

518
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Speaker 3: that's so I mean, that is so crazy now, Fox News,

519
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Speaker 3: I guess, to their credit, did eventually apologize after this

520
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Speaker 3: was pointed out.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 9: Before we move on, we want to acknowledge a mistake

523
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Speaker 9: made earlier on our program. During our coverage of yesterday's

524
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Speaker 9: dignified transfer, we inadvertently aired video from an older dignified

525
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Speaker 9: transfer instead of this ceremony that took place yesterday. We

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Speaker 9: deeply regret the error and extend our respecting condolences to

527
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Speaker 9: the service members' families. We honored the sacrifice of those

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Speaker 9: six American heroes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, I'm sure that's an Inverton, just a little

530
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Speaker 2: oopsie editing together a clip with a previous dignified train.

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Speaker 3: I mean, especially, here's why I actually don't believe it,

532
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Speaker 3: because did none of the hosts, like everyone saw the

533
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Speaker 3: pictures and then they played that immediately. If you and

534
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Speaker 3: I were doing that, I'd be like, hey, that's the wrong.

535
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Speaker 3: How did something like this happen? Nobody in the control room? Nothing, Yeah,

536
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Speaker 3: not buying it. That only happen and because it got

537
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Speaker 3: leaked out there. But what's even worse. Look, I mean,

538
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Speaker 3: as people know, I'm an dress code fanatic. But you know,

539
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Speaker 3: it's not just about that. It's also about what it represents,

540
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Speaker 3: which is about it's called a dignified transfer. It's about

541
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Speaker 3: respect for the people who are dead. What's even more

542
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Speaker 3: disrespectful is Trump basically saying, yeah, this is probably going

543
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Speaker 3: to be the first of many. I hate to do it,

544
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Speaker 3: but that's part of war. Whatever, right, literally, Lord farquad mean,

545
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Speaker 3: let's take a listen.

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Speaker 9: I'm going to end up coming back to Dover for

547
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Speaker 9: more of these such dignified transfers.

548
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Speaker 5: Sure, I hate to do but it's a part of war.

549
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Speaker 5: Who are you with at Washington Post? What do you say?

550
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Speaker 5: It's a part of war?

551
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Speaker 9: The deaths are.

552
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Speaker 5: Part of Warrio, it's a part of war. It's a

553
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Speaker 5: sad part of them.

554
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Speaker 1: It's the bad part of one, sad part of war,

555
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Speaker 1: bad part of war.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just so comfortable with the deaths of

557
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Speaker 3: American servicemen, you know another thing, and we shouldn't let

558
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Speaker 3: this one go on. Knows anyone noticed Tulsi Gabbard there

559
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Speaker 3: in full doing her salute. How many times had her

560
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Speaker 3: on the program talking about, Oh, I never want to

561
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Speaker 3: see Americans come back. You know, my time as a

562
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Speaker 3: medic really informed my views. There she is sitting in

563
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Speaker 3: front of coffins coming back from this now war with

564
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Speaker 3: Iran again. One of them literally a twenty year old

565
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Speaker 3: kid born four to five years after nine to eleven.

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Speaker 1: It's so disgusting.

567
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Speaker 2: She and Jad have been very quiet having me on

568
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Speaker 2: the very quiet. I mean it is utterly shameful and insane.

569
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Speaker 2: I mean, we're now at a point where they're actively floated.

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Speaker 2: Now we can't rule a draft out where it's almost

571
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Speaker 2: certain that we're going to have boots on the ground,

572
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Speaker 2: where they're so cavalier about the death that is going

573
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Speaker 2: to come to US service members and additional injuries and casualties,

574
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Speaker 2: just really wild stuff. And then in terms of you know,

575
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Speaker 2: the costs for everyday Americans, we're going to talk more

576
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Speaker 2: extensively about the price of the pump, what that's going

577
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Speaker 2: to mean, not only there, but we all live through COVID.

578
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Speaker 4: We know the way this ripples.

579
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Speaker 2: Surround the economy, that we know the level of disruption

580
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Speaker 2: and how much ordinary people suffer when you have these

581
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Speaker 2: kinds of supply shocks. So Trump got asked, hey, are

582
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Speaker 2: you worried about gas prices? And so cavalier about this

583
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Speaker 2: as well. Very easy when you're a billionaire, I guess

584
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Speaker 2: let's take a listen to that.

585
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Speaker 1: What about gas prices?

586
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Speaker 5: Right now?

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Speaker 10: This is a short excursion into something that should have

588
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Speaker 10: been done for forty seven years. Forty seven years it's

589
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Speaker 10: taken to do this, and no president had the guts.

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Speaker 5: To do it.

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Speaker 4: Short excursion, No big deal.

592
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Speaker 2: There's a new talking point from his lackeys, his administration lackeys,

593
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Speaker 2: which is like short term pain for long term gain.

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Speaker 2: That's what they're selling to the American amount.

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Speaker 3: What for some fake threat from Iron exactly? Bullshit exactly.

596
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Speaker 2: And also the pain what they're projecting is not going

597
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Speaker 2: to be short term either.

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Speaker 4: Let's be clear about that too.

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Speaker 3: Even then, I mean, people spent like two hundred million

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Speaker 3: dollars more on gas last week than they would have previously.

601
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Speaker 3: That's a lot of money. Last time I checked. I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: just we're gonna talk to Rory Hearin a bit. This

603
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Speaker 3: just came across the Why are four ninety nine a

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Speaker 3: gallon today for diesel five dollars a gallon? I mean,

605
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Speaker 3: does anybody else for how many segments we do here

606
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Speaker 3: on this show about diesel and trucking and food inflation.

607
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Speaker 3: This is where it all comes from. And apparently they

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Speaker 3: don't give us, They do not care at all about us. Okay,

609
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Speaker 3: let's get to water desalination, because that's very important and

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Speaker 3: a major escalation in the war.

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Speaker 2: We have now had multiple attacks on regional desalination plants,

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Speaker 2: including a strike on a significant one within Iran. This

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Speaker 2: is obviously a war crime, but it's also opened up

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Speaker 2: a new escalatory front. That's actually some of Professor Jang

615
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Speaker 2: talk to us about how vulnerable this entire region is.

616
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Speaker 2: And actually the GCC countries outside of Iran, they're the

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Speaker 2: ones who are more reliant on these desalination plants because

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Speaker 2: they lack freshwater sources within their own countries. Let's go

619
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Speaker 2: and take a listen to Trump getting asked about a

620
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Speaker 2: US attack on an Iranian desalination.

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Speaker 1: Plantanesday, hitting with a desalidation plan in and they said no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm I open the door of other strikes on.

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Speaker 5: Infrastructure, not must also open the door to other strikes

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Speaker 5: against seven.

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Speaker 1: Look responds to that allegation at the US head of

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Speaker 1: den Run.

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Speaker 6: They are among the most evil people ever are They.

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Speaker 5: Cut babies heads off, they chop women in have what

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Speaker 5: they did? Take a look at October seventh, take a

630
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Speaker 5: look at what they've done over the last forty seven years.

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Speaker 5: So I know nothing about a desalinization plant, other than

632
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Speaker 5: to say, if they're complaining about a desalinization plan, we

633
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Speaker 5: complain about the fact that they should be chopping babies

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Speaker 5: heads off.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So complete deflection there, and then just uses some

636
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Speaker 2: of the Israeli like atrocity propaganda.

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Speaker 1: What does he mean talking about what's what's.

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Speaker 4: The October seventh?

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Speaker 2: Yes, and he's claiming that Iran is now behind which

640
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Speaker 2: you know, all of the reportings suggests Run had nothing

641
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Speaker 2: to do with October seven outside of Hamas obviously being

642
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Speaker 2: you know, allies of Theirs. But the yeah, just complete deflection,

643
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Speaker 2: uses all of this debunked atrocity propaganda, tries to make

644
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Speaker 2: it so that Iran is directly responsible for October seventh,

645
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Speaker 2: et cetera. And we're already seeing the consequences of this

646
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Speaker 2: new escalatory front. Let's put B two up on the screen.

647
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Speaker 2: We now have Iran struck cause material damage to a

648
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Speaker 2: desalination plant in Bahrain. First time they say an Arab

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Speaker 2: country has reported Iran striking a desalination plant. So just

650
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Speaker 2: to be clear, US strikes an Iranian desalination plant.

651
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 4: And then they say, okay, all right, game on.

652
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: Let's go two can play this game as well. Let's

653
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: put B three up on the screen, just so we

654
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: can take a measure of how impactful this is. So

655
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Speaker 2: these are the countries in the region, listed out here

656
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: by their level of dependency on these desalination plants, which

657
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: of course convert salt water into fresh water. Okay, the

658
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: most dependent ninety percent of their water coming from desalination

659
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 2: plants is Kuwait, then at eighty six percent, Oman, then

660
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: it's seventy five percent, Israel, then it's seventy percent, Saudi

661
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: at sixty percent, Bahrain, which was just struck, fifty percent,

662
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: Katar forty two percent. The UAE and Iran, now they

663
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: have some water issues, but it is not nearly the

664
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: level of the GCC or Israel only two percent Iran

665
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: is The tweet here says three percent dependent on desalination.

666
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: The chart says two percent US allies in the region

667
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: at forty to ninety percent.

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Speaker 4: Think about that. Think about that.

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Speaker 2: If you are whole like Kuwait is basically wholly dependent

670
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: on these plants, which are vulnerable at the US, you know,

671
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: running out of interceptors and not doing a good job

672
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: of defending these allies anyway, and your move is to

673
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: attack an Iranian desalination plant, just completely opening up that front. Yeah,

674
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: this is extremely dire for these centuries.

675
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: I will also raise another one, Are we sure it

676
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: was us? Are we sure it was in the Israelis?

677
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: Because this is something that they love, right to see

678
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 3: the broad war and then immediately the strike that happened

679
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: back on the GCC countries. As we've been talking about,

680
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: they don't care at all about the GCC. They would

681
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: be happy to see them collapse. Also, if you know,

682
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: it's funny, and when I lived in Qatar, all of

683
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: the Americans we would always joke because gas was literally

684
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: cheaper than water than water, So gas would be like

685
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 3: eighty nine cents a gallon, whereas water would be a

686
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: dollar a gallon if you wanted to buy it from

687
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: CBS or like some sort of grocery store. That is

688
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: how different like things actually are over there, especially for

689
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: fresh water. So you can think and just talk about

690
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: how you've got only a certain amount of runway whenever

691
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: it comes to water desalination. But the bigger point is

692
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: about civilian infrastructure. So this strike on the water desalination

693
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: plant and the closure of the Straits of Hormuz literally

694
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: is a choke point for every single person who lives

695
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: in the Gulf, because think about it, You've got everyone

696
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: talks about the Straits of Hormos just for oil, but

697
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: it's not Remember they have huge you know, food, like

698
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: all their food comes in from there. Everything if you've

699
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 3: ever been to these countries, everything is imported.

700
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: Literally, there's nothing out there. It's a desert. Yeah, for fresh.

701
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: Flood food, so non water sufficient, everything has to be.

702
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: Everything is either flown in or shipped in.

703
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: And if you two weeks is all they have for

704
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 3: runway whenever it comes to food or water. I mean,

705
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: it is a disastrous situation, especially for the civilian populations

706
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: of a lot of the not to mention what a

707
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: million plus Americans who are all living in the country.

708
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: Good luck getting out right now, look to do buy airport.

709
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 3: You know, we're going to show you some of that

710
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: stuff later on. I mean, the civilian infrastructure attacks, this

711
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: is designed to inflict maximum damage on all of the population.

712
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: So it's really dangerous.

713
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 4: And to your.

714
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: Point about who did this, so put B six up

715
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: on the screen. The Israelis blamed UAE okay Ua is

716
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: completely denying this, that they struck this desalination facility, and

717
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: they also hit back at what they described is inappropriate

718
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: is really conduct, So you know it definitely there is

719
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: a full scale disinformation campaign coming from the Israelis. Why

720
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: because they don't want this to be a limited conflict.

721
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 2: There incentives are all in the direction of dragging as

722
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: many countries into this thing as they possibly can. So

723
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: you know, I think given the breadcrumbs here, I think

724
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: you're probably right, the most likely suspect here is Israel.

725
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: But ultimately it doesn't matter from a you know, whether

726
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 2: it's the US or Israel, because certainly the Iranians blame

727
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: us for everything that's being done to them right now,

728
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: and you already had We're going to talk to Trita

729
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: more about this, but you've already had you know, the

730
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: Iranians made this sort of outreach like okay, regional Arab countries,

731
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 2: if you don't attack us, we're not going to attack

732
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: you back. Trump immediately comes in and undermines that.

733
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 4: And now you know that very fragile sort of accord.

734
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: To limit this and contain the conflict and step back

735
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: from escalation chain that has already been completely destroyed. And

736
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: clearly Israel here trying to keep that regional escalation going

737
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 2: by saying oh it was UAE. They're denying it and saying,

738
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: you know, basically you all are outrageous for the you know,

739
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 2: the disinformation that you're spreading. We can put B seven

740
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: up on the screen here as well to see you

741
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: know this This analysis senior analyst on Israel, the Crisis

742
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: Group says much of what Israel Israeli media is reporting

743
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: in Golf States's disinformation appears to be part of an

744
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: effort to escalate the war further between Gulf and Iran

745
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: and the the you know, I think that's just like

746
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: undeniable at this point what they are up to. But

747
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: last thing here, put before up on the screen. You

748
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: can see the way that the Iranians are reacting. So

749
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: this is the Foreign Minister of Iran. He says, the

750
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 2: US committed a blatant and desperate crime by attacking a

751
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: freshwater desalination plan on Cusham Island. Water supplying thirty villages

752
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: has been impacted. Attacking Iran's infrastructure is dangerous with grave consequences.

753
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 2: The US set this precedent not a run.

754
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why. That's why they already attacked in what

755
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: is it in Bahrain?

756
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 4: Bahrain?

757
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: And just I mean Bahrain.

758
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: Remember where are all those Americans who are in the

759
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: Gulf in Bahrain, like in Kuwait? And all of these

760
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 3: countries are massively dependent on these water desalinations. So I

761
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 3: actually think, look, this is a broader war theory, Like

762
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 3: what do you do? Let's go back to the history

763
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: of all warfare. It starts out just troop on troop.

764
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 3: Then it's like, well, when you get gridlocked, what do

765
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: you do?

766
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: Oh?

767
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 3: Well, now we have to wage war on the enemy's

768
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: ability to sustain the front. So what do you do?

769
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 3: You no longer care as much about that airpower is

770
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: going to go and attack. Remember ball bearing factories and

771
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: all of these places of infrastructure that sustained the war effort.

772
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: This is what if you think back to World War One,

773
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: what do they do? Why did they have unrestricted suburb

774
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: or U boat bombing back then to literally make sure

775
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 3: that the Britons couldn't continue the war effort on their

776
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 3: home island, so that they couldn't continue to send food

777
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: or supplies to the people who are on the front.

778
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 3: The same things that the Allies did to the Germans.

779
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: We would attack their food supplies and all these other

780
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: things again same thing. We wanted to cause mass famine

781
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: to make sure that the population would stop supporting the war.

782
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: This is what total war looks like. The Civil War?

783
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: How did it end? Go through Atlanta? Burn everything to

784
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: the ground.

785
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: This is the problem with sustaining these types of conflicts,

786
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 3: and it's literally a fight literally to the death. And

787
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 3: then you have to say who has the ability and

788
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: the will or at the very least the will to

789
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: want to fight to the death. I don't even want

790
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: to pay fifty cents more per gallon. The number of

791
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: American dead for me is already it's seven too high.

792
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: Who are confirmed? Who knows what the real number is?

793
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: So for the rest of us, we're out here being like, oh,

794
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 3: diesel five dollars a gallon, huge disruption to our life.

795
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: Jet fuel is going up. Anybody who wants to fly

796
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: by the way.

797
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: Our Asian allies are getting hammered, you know, the South

798
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 3: Korean and the South Korean index is down fifteen percent

799
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: over the last five days. They're getting destroyed because all

800
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 3: their oil comes from the Straits and hormones. The Japanese

801
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: ninety percent of their oil comes from the Middle East.

802
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: The n K two twenty Vivee I checked this morning

803
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 3: is down like nine percent over the last five days.

804
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 3: They're getting hammered the entire world for what for literally nothing,

805
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 3: And then you've got interceptor stocks that are all following

806
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 3: civilian infrastructure.

807
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: This is textbook for how a war.

808
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 3: For any war which doesn't initially find smashing success in

809
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 3: the first couple of days, it has to expand it

810
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: doesn't have a choice by strategic logic, I mean theoretically

811
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: you do, which is to say, oh my god, this

812
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 3: is a horrible idea.

813
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: Trump's not going to do that.

814
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: And even if you wanted to do that, Israel is

815
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: not going to let him at this point. And even

816
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: if they did, then what are the Iranians just going

817
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: to say, yeah, okay, they're like no, no, no, We're not

818
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 3: done with you yet.

819
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: And normalizing those attacks on civilian infrastructure. That is to

820
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: Aron's benefit because this is the sort of stuff that's

821
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: very easy to attack with the drone, right and you know,

822
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: so this is a game they can play all day long.

823
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: And so what have you accomplished so far in this war?

824
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: You have a you know, decapitated the head of the regime.

825
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: Now you've got a harder line person who has been

826
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: named as the supreme leader, the son of the previous

827
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: iatola who just had his whole family murdered by you.

828
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 2: So congratulations, You've got another company who is more hardline

829
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 2: than the previous one who's now in charge. Okay, you've

830
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: likely unified actually the Iranian people behind this government, given

831
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: that they are under siege and under attack. You have

832
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: now your economy being destroyed in real time, I mean

833
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: true threat of like a global depression situation already, just

834
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: with the closure of the Strait of Hormus you are

835
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: now in. You have failed to accomplish whatever the goals are,

836
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: not that you've been real clear about what those goals,

837
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: even are, so it kind of makes them unaccomplishable. But

838
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: you have not collapsed the regime. There isn't civil war.

839
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: There is not certainly a regime change. You do not

840
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: have control of the nuclear materials. They continue to be

841
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,479
Speaker 2: able to, you know, to strike within Israel. I'm seeing

842
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: lots of reports this morning about attacks from Iran in

843
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: Israel and also on GCC member states as well. So

844
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: and now you're in sort of this bind where you're

845
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: very likely to end up sending ground troops in and

846
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: having many, many more Americans dead. That is what's been

847
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 2: accomplished quote unquote so far in this war. It could

848
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: not be more of a cluster like it's just an

849
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 2: absolute disaster and very hard to see how we get

850
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: out of this anytime soon because Trump, you know, there

851
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: are no good options for Trump to walk away. And

852
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: as I said before, even if Trump tried to walk away,

853
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: not at all clear that the Iranians would be like, Okay, good,

854
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: let's let's go back to the way things were, because

855
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 2: they know that they would just be courting another attack

856
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: yet again in the future.