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Speaker 3: I just read a great story.

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Speaker 1: Welcome an hour two, Sam Darnold, an hour and a

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Speaker 1: half from now, Joel Klatten in a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: Kenny Albert was the voice of Olympic Hockey on NBC

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Speaker 1: and after they won the gold he had four hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty eight texts.

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Speaker 3: And he Albert families.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've got a lot of Steve Albert and

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Speaker 1: Marv Albert and Kenny Albert, and I'm probably missing somebody.

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Speaker 1: I thought he did a great job. I played tennis

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Speaker 1: with him on one of the nicest guys out there,

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Speaker 1: just as Salt of the Earth.

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Speaker 3: It's a legend, and he's just a great kid and

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Speaker 3: just kind of.

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Speaker 1: Gets out of the way and lets you know, hockey

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Speaker 1: move so fast, and Kevin Burkhardt has this quality. He's great,

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Speaker 1: but gets out of the way and lets the crowd

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Speaker 1: play into it, the analysts play into it, and it's

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Speaker 1: a very collaborative effort, and Kenny did a great job.

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Speaker 3: But that's funny.

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Speaker 1: I've had like days where I got twenty eight and

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Speaker 1: I was overwhelmed. He got four hundred and thirty eight texts.

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Speaker 1: you pick one show, and I hope you pick more

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Speaker 1: than one show, but if you pick one show to

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Speaker 1: watch this week, it would be Tomorrow's show. And if

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Speaker 1: you do only watch one show this week, then you're

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Speaker 1: not listening now, and you'll be very, very fortunate because

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Speaker 1: we're gonna I'm gonna unveil something. Been working on this

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Speaker 1: thing for at least at least nine months.

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Speaker 3: When was I shown. Yeah, it's it's like nine months.

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Speaker 1: It is it's techie, it's futuristic, it is Uh, it'd

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Speaker 1: be the end of my career. Whatever that is on

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's show in the second hour, and that's all I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say.

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Speaker 3: Something happened last night.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you we were talking about Wemby last hour,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think the NBA needs a face of

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Speaker 1: the league to be popular. I think it's an overused term.

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Speaker 1: I think there's only been five or six in my life.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think Kareem er Wilt with a face

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Speaker 1: Tim Duncan wasn't. I don't think Kobe was ever the

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Speaker 1: face of the league. I don't even know if Shaq was.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Shaq was for a year or two. But like Wemby,

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Speaker 1: last night is a great example of being multifaceted. He

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Speaker 1: last night was three for twelve from the field through

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Speaker 1: three quarters and was plus eleven. I mean he last night,

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Speaker 1: he is separating from the other good players, great players

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Speaker 1: Last night, he's separating. Last night, he had seventeen rebounds,

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Speaker 1: dominated the game. And he was the best prospect since

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Speaker 1: Lebron James when he came out, And I mean all

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Speaker 1: the scouts were saying there's nothing out there quite like him.

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Speaker 3: You know, they want to build up his strength.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to throw him eighty two games. He

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Speaker 1: is Last night he played a very good Detroit team.

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Speaker 1: Now Detroit's young, so San Antonio. Detroit's young, and they

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Speaker 1: So he just dominates the game last night and it

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Speaker 1: multifaceted and just shutting down a really good Detroit team.

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Speaker 1: after his offensive struggle but a win.

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Speaker 4: this is why I was also talking about progression, because

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Speaker 4: everybody who was connected tonight, everybody got to eat tonight

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Speaker 1: Horgen. Yeah, it's Detroit needs another elite scorer next to

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Speaker 1: Kaid Cunningham. And they're really young. They're too young to

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Speaker 1: win a title. They're not deep enough offensively to win

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Speaker 1: San Antonio is a bad matchup for them, and they're

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Speaker 1: no getting around that. They're not a great matchup for them.

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Speaker 1: But Wemby's just it is crazy how he cannot score

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Speaker 1: and totally control the game. Well, uh, college football used

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Speaker 1: to be controlled down south. But I was looking at

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah's mock draft. In his first twenty picks, he

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Speaker 1: who's pretty good and one at Tennessee's pretty good. And

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Speaker 1: with that, Joel Clatt is now joining us, and Joel

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Speaker 1: Clatt and I. People will say, you guys are very

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Speaker 1: What, I think we're very pro facts and I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at the mock drafts and it's incredible. And first of all,

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Speaker 1: We can just say it factually is three straight Natties

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Speaker 1: favored potentially to win A four. This draft is top

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Speaker 1: looking at this draft. Miami and the Big Ten simply

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Speaker 1: You've got Utah maybe two first round offensive tackles. And

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Speaker 1: so you're you're right when you sit there and you

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Speaker 1: look at the bigs, and then even the skill if

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Speaker 1: running back Notre Dame, best wide receiver. A debate between

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Speaker 1: So even the skill is sitting outside of that footprint,

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Speaker 1: it's and that's why I've said I think Lane Kiffin's

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Speaker 1: more guarantees. I mean, it's just I'm sorry, but the

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Speaker 1: give me your thoughts on Fernando Mendoza. Quarterback is a

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Speaker 1: Like the number of starts can end up being hugely

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Speaker 1: as great as Kurt Signette is. They lose three games

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Speaker 1: minimum without Mendoz, they're not beating Miami Ohio State, and

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Speaker 1: they're not beating Penn State minimum. Iowa and Oregon are

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Speaker 1: up for debate. How do you view him? How how

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Speaker 1: how transcended, how normal? Where do you where do you

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I think it's incredibly difficult to find

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Speaker 1: I thought he was the most can't just take him

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Speaker 1: Mendoza doesn't quite cross that line, which is fine, which

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and every single quarterback that has to go

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Speaker 1: and win a Super Bowl and win big playoff games

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Speaker 1: has to own the game from the pocket. You have

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Speaker 1: his best performances and his most clutch performances and the

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Speaker 1: most important parts of the season. What was he doing,

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Speaker 1: Colin making huge throws from the pocket, third downs, fourth

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Speaker 1: downs on the road Iowa Oregon penn State Big Ten

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Speaker 1: Championship game, Ohio State Natty Miami. What was he doing

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Speaker 1: late in the game? Laiden the down sequence making throws

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Speaker 1: from the pocket. I think he's accurate. Reminds me a

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Speaker 1: little bit of Michael PENNOCKX and his accuracy in the

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Speaker 1: vein of he's a leverage thrower. Let me tell you

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Speaker 1: what I mean by leverage thrower. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: talk about fifty to fifty situ contested catches, right, We

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Speaker 1: yet Colin, the best quarterbacks never throw fifty to fifty balls.

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Speaker 1: They're always putting the percentage in the wide receiver's advantage

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Speaker 1: because of the leverage that they throw with from a

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Speaker 1: ball position and ball placement standpoint, Well, he does that.

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Speaker 1: Every time he throws the ball outside to Charlie Becker

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Speaker 1: or Elijah Suratt or Omar Cooper, He's giving them the

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Speaker 3: He does that and for.

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Speaker 1: Those two reasons, owning it from the pocket and big

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Speaker 1: but man, I think he's absolutely going to succeed in

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Speaker 3: I don't always trust him. And in close.

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Speaker 1: Games sometimes Sark's teams aren't perfectly buttoned up. For anybody

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Speaker 1: Penn State wanted him badly, almost had him, and he

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Speaker 3: But your point about sark is is interesting as Stark.

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Speaker 1: How do you view Sark When people say, come on, hey, Clack,

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Speaker 1: I would say, why wasn't Texas Texas before Steve Sarksan

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Speaker 3: Now did they underperform this last year? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: A duel class show.

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Speaker 3: But call him.

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Speaker 1: The thing about sark is I could make the argument

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Speaker 1: I also think Texas. I've always said college football has

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Speaker 1: They're cool cities. They're kind of international. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: USC and Texas have unique collegiate challenges even in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We have let's let's saw as mock draft. Let me

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love that your standard is Like does

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Speaker 3: I think he's a fascinating He's a wonderful player.

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Speaker 1: Man, He's got to Neibbs feel exactly one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: He's a Jamier Gibbs maybe McCaffrey home run hitter that

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Speaker 1: Man, You go look at the first round. There's a

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right. They got dudes. They got dudes. Good

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Speaker 1: Right, And again a reminder, tomorrow's show will be a

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Speaker 5: Hey, Colin, real quick, I'm sorry to interrupt the clatt

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Speaker 1: Well? I think, I think when you look at the

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Speaker 1: Be very This is not an era in sports internationally.

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Speaker 3: To be rigid like this is.

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Speaker 1: This is why this era Bobby Knight had success in

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Speaker 3: We try to figure it out.

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Speaker 5: Well, So this list is great. This is a great

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Speaker 5: He got cam Ward there. Last year, he goes to

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Speaker 5: great regular season coach. What are we doing here? I mean,

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Speaker 5: I'm floored by this list? Absolutely, I was gobsmacked. But

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Speaker 1: I tell you a guy i'd have all then kids

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Speaker 1: can get to a playoff? Can he do anything? Caylin

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Speaker 1: de Boor would be on my own.

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Speaker 5: An amazing coach. Listen, this is gonna people. If people

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Speaker 5: Sweeney's your guy and all you guys have a romance.

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Speaker 1: Talkie at BYU in the last few years is twenty

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Speaker 5: Awesome, Great, that's outstanding. Can I get more than a

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Speaker 5: I just there's a there's a lot here and signetti

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Speaker 5: I think you need to do your version of this

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Speaker 5: fired up and when the phone is buzzing, like, what

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Speaker 5: what is Clatt doing? You know from college football fans.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with the top five. I'd

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Speaker 1: have the order a little different. I think, well, I

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Speaker 1: think you have to be fair to Kirby Smart. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Kirby Smart is struggling to keep due to nil issues.

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Speaker 1: He's struggling. People think Georgia, Oh, it's right by Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Big money in Atlanta, believe it or not, does not

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Speaker 1: lean into Georgia football. They got pro sports, so they've

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Speaker 1: lost a lot of players because they can't afford them.

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Speaker 1: So I think Kirby Smart has got an argument number one.

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Speaker 1: I would go Ryan Day two. You know, listen, I

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Speaker 1: like Kurt Signetti, but they would have lost four games minimum,

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Speaker 1: three games minimum, five games possible. Yeah, without Mendoza. The

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Speaker 1: year before it was a lot of fools gold where

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Speaker 1: they got into the playoffs and they were like punting

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Speaker 1: from midfield down to touchdowns, like they didn't have any

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Speaker 1: smoke offensively. So I'm not saying like I think Indiana

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Speaker 1: this year is going to lose multiple games.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love Signetti, he can't be number one. I agree,

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Speaker 5: two great years Lanning and Freeman for the last like

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Speaker 5: four years have been utterly dominant.

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Speaker 1: And you'll ask yourself this, if you were an athletic

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Speaker 1: director today and you had to hire a head coach,

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Speaker 1: I've said this before, I would hire. I think Marcus

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Speaker 1: Freeman is who I would hire. I think he's a

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Speaker 1: relentless recruiter. Very current NFL teams and gms are looking

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Speaker 1: at him.

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Speaker 5: Would have to be two, right, I mean, come on,

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Speaker 5: Lanning's instead day would be two or three?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 1: If I was going to hire a coach, Freeman would

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Speaker 1: be number one, and then the rest of them would

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Speaker 1: get in line.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean with the recency bias for Signette, and I

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Speaker 5: love Signetti obviously he's been amazing, you know, but this

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Speaker 5: I'll start with one of your best friends in the NFL,

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Speaker 5: Colin Max Crosby. That's your guy. I can't wait for

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Speaker 5: you to get a matching Raiders tattoo. Oh wait, he

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Speaker 5: could be on the move GM John Spytech made it clear, Okay,

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Speaker 5: made it clear he expects Crosby to be a Raider

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty six. That's the very latest from the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: I don't know about you, Colin, but if I can

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Speaker 5: get two ones or a one in a two, a

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Speaker 5: high two for Crosby, I'm taking it now and I'm running.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you're selling high on a superstar ed rusher.

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Speaker 1: Remember, go look our staff should look this up. Go

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Speaker 1: look at how many draft picks the Raiders have. Multiple

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Speaker 1: I believe they have multiple fours, multiple fives. The Raiders

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Speaker 1: can afford Max Crosby. Let's just start with that. He's

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Speaker 1: an elite player. They drafted him. He's over delivered. He

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Speaker 1: was a fourth round pick. He's over delivered. Yes, they have.

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Speaker 1: So they're going to get their quarterback with the first

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Speaker 1: pick and not have to pay him for four to

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Speaker 1: five years. Okay, see, you're the most expensive position. They're

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Speaker 1: going to get a discount for four years. They also

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Speaker 1: have a second, a third, multiple I think they have.

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Speaker 5: They have two or huh ten picks. They just told

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Speaker 5: me so.

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Speaker 1: If seven of the ten picks, let's say seven to eight,

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Speaker 1: make the roster for the next two years, that is

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Speaker 1: a lot of and they have a lot of mid

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Speaker 1: round picks like multiple fours, multiple fives, and then some

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Speaker 1: late round picks multiple six the Raider and the Raiders

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Speaker 1: don't have a stack roster giving This isn't the Rams

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Speaker 1: or the Eagles, where it's harder for a fifth round

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Speaker 1: pick to make the roster. It's stacked. So my take

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Speaker 1: is the Raiders are gonna have ten picks. They may

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Speaker 1: they could move down and get more. They're gonna have

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Speaker 1: so many. And last year I thought that had a

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Speaker 1: pretty solid draft. They can afford Max Crosby. They're not

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Speaker 1: paying any They're not paying a receiver. They're not paying

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Speaker 1: brock Bowers, they're not paying gent. They're only paying Colton

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Speaker 1: Miller on the offensive line, their best interior lineman they

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Speaker 1: drafted out of Oregon two years ago. They don't need

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Speaker 1: to get rid of a Crossby. They got nothing but

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Speaker 1: cheap labor everywhere.

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Speaker 5: So Colin, I like to use this analogy often. I

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Speaker 5: want bites at the apple. If I can get a

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Speaker 5: first round pick and a second round pick that's like

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Speaker 5: top forty ish for Max rob I'm taking it and running.

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Speaker 5: You're not getting the Micael Parsons deal. I'm sorry. He

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Speaker 5: was much younger than Max Crosby. But Colin, it's like

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Speaker 5: when you go to a bar and you're a young guy.

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Speaker 5: If you talk to fifteen girls, you might get three

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Speaker 5: or four numbers. If you talk to like three girls,

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Speaker 5: maybe you get one. It's a numbers game. It's the

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Speaker 5: same deal with the draft. They're not winning anything with

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Speaker 5: Max Crosby. You and I said two years ago, get

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Speaker 5: off TJ. Watt Pittsburgh, just move on there. They did

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Speaker 5: not said I said this with Miles Garrett, what are

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Speaker 5: we doing? Moles Garrett's awesome. But Colin, they're not winning anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're conflating two different things. You're saying they're

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Speaker 1: not winning with Max Crosby. That's not Max Crosby.

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Speaker 5: No, it's not his fault.

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Speaker 3: That's right. So you don't get rid of somebody.

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Speaker 1: I mean, hell, even quarterback is reliant on protection and

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Speaker 1: coaching and weapons and a run game to win games.

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Speaker 1: Don't conflate two different issues. They're not winning. Let's get

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Speaker 1: rid of Max. No, they're not winning, and Max is

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Speaker 1: easily their best player. You're in the business of drafting, developing,

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Speaker 1: and paying stars. Why would I let the second best

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Speaker 1: pass rusher in the league go he's going to have

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Speaker 1: a huge second.

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Speaker 5: He's second behind Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's the thing. Yes, in my opinion, So

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Speaker 1: here's my take. GMS have told me this through the years,

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Speaker 1: you don't want that many draft picks. I don't want

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Speaker 1: more draft picks. What I want is more great players.

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Speaker 1: Who won the Super Bowl Seattle, they got like seven

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Speaker 1: great players.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what I.

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Speaker 1: Don't want ten draft picks is probably I would give them.

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Speaker 1: If I was the Raiders, I would give up two

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Speaker 1: fives and a six to get another.

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Speaker 3: Fourth or third round pick. You don't want to be

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Speaker 3: too young.

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Speaker 1: So one of the only veterans that delivers for them

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Speaker 1: is Colton Miller, the left tackle, Max Crosby the rush end.

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Speaker 1: Those are two of the air only veteran guys but

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Speaker 1: actually deliver. Why would I get rid of one of them?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I like your strategy of draft development, pay

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Speaker 5: They did that with Max. Now he's entering his late twenties,

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Speaker 5: almost thirty. I just I don't see the upside of

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Speaker 5: having him. I mean, maybe you want a leader in

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Speaker 5: the locker room, but man, I'm just those picks could

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Speaker 5: be used to.

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Speaker 1: You're on a division with Mahomes Herbert and bow Nicks.

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Speaker 1: You don't think there's value in the best rush end

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Speaker 1: in the division.

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Speaker 5: I don't think they're competing next year, and then you

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Speaker 5: waste another year of Max being a star. Let's move

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Speaker 5: on to Tyreek Hill. Colin interesting scenario unfolding where he

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Speaker 5: is on the market. Anybody can go get him. He's

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Speaker 5: probably not healthy all coming off the injuries. But you

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Speaker 5: remember the honey Badger Tyron Matthew. He believes a reunion

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Speaker 5: between Tyreek Hill and the Chiefs makes sense.

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Speaker 8: Me and him left the Chiefs at the same time, right,

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Speaker 8: And you know, I think when we left the Chiefs

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Speaker 8: people didn't really they didn't feel the loss of Tyre

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Speaker 8: Matthew and Tyreek Hill because they went to.

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl right at the same Yeah.

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Speaker 8: And one of the things that, like I said, impressed

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Speaker 8: me the most of Tyreek was he was just like me.

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Speaker 8: He a football player. He don't miss practice, right like

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Speaker 8: he he won't take all his reps. He don't miss

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Speaker 8: no games. And I think, given with the Chiefs are

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Speaker 8: sort of experienced the last three years at the wire

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Speaker 8: receis position, he may be the next best teacher for them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, good luck with that. She rise tyreek Hill. I'm

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Speaker 5: not a big There's some nicknames floating around for that

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Speaker 5: new wide receiver crew. Huh, they're not good. Anyways, I

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Speaker 5: don't want to. I don't want to basche Chiefs anymore.

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Speaker 5: I know Case fans had a long off season so far,

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Speaker 5: and they're still over the cap. Anyways, let's go to

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Speaker 5: the NBA, Colin, where I don't know. I guess newly

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Speaker 5: retired point guard Chris Paul, who has always been just

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Speaker 5: an angry guy. He was asked, Colin, who the best

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Speaker 5: point guard in the league is? Okay, okay, I mean

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Speaker 5: you know some of the best point guards of the

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Speaker 5: NBA right now?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well here's Chris Paul giving the answer with no hesitation.

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Speaker 8: Luka Doncik versus Shay Gills is Alexander who runs the one.

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Speaker 4: Shay Oh, he din't even think about that. It's a shit.

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Speaker 9: But he just loved to be in the gym, love

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Speaker 9: to be in the gym. He gonna do all the

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Speaker 9: work and taking care of his body. So you ain't

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Speaker 9: gotta be a.

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Speaker 3: Lockdown devendo or whatnot.

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Speaker 9: But when you play defense for your team, your teammates

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Speaker 9: just want to see that. The stars actually try, actually

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Speaker 9: try on defense. I got a lot of respect for

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Speaker 9: Steph Shay and all these guys who at least try

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Speaker 9: on the defensive end, because that's part of it and

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Speaker 9: that's what your teammates want to see.

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Speaker 1: Finally, somebody says that this is what players have been

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Speaker 1: talking about. This is why I've been more critical of

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Speaker 1: Luca Sga. There's an argument that he's not a terrible defender.

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Speaker 1: He's the worst on OKC, but they have like seven

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Speaker 1: elite defenders and the truth is about Luca. Chris Paul's

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Speaker 1: telling you you don't have to be a great defender.

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Speaker 1: You gotta have effort on the defensive end. Sga is

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Speaker 1: not great. He gets pushed around, but he gives you effort.

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Speaker 1: And so again one of the things that you can't

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Speaker 1: deny with Luca.

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Speaker 3: He no longer dunks. Don't worry a little bit.

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Speaker 5: So first of all, the MC of this event, whoever

651
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Speaker 5: that guy is, should have been like to Chris Paul,

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Speaker 5: what are you saying Luca doesn't try on defense, because

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Speaker 5: that's what he was insinuating. Now, I'm sure Chris Paul

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Speaker 5: would have backed off that, but it is weird, you know,

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Speaker 5: Chris paul Is boys with uh Lebron James Right. No,

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Speaker 5: you think Chris and Lebron maybe have had some discussions

657
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Speaker 5: and Lebron's telling Chris, you don't try on defense. He's

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Speaker 5: not in the gym.

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Speaker 3: We don't.

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Speaker 1: He didn't have to tell him. Everybody in the players talk.

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Speaker 1: Everybody in the league knows it.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: So you know, as TV pundits, we have our guys.

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Speaker 5: We like one of your guys is coming up in

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Speaker 5: an hour. I think we have a countdown on the

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Speaker 5: screen for Sam Arnold. Luca is one of my guys.

667
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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna stand for the slander this is. This

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Speaker 5: is really getting I feel like it's personal because I guy.

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Speaker 1: You that were a year into this experiment and it

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Speaker 1: still isn't right.

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Speaker 5: Well, Colin, remember this team was built for Ad and Lebron.

672
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 5: They were built for that. The contracts, everything lined up,

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Speaker 5: and then Lebron said, oh we're gonna hand this is

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Speaker 5: gonna be a D's team. That was like a big

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Speaker 5: talking put on the show. And then they trade Ad

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Speaker 5: for Luca. You can't just turn the Titanic around instantly.

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Speaker 5: It takes a year. I think this is the pivotal

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Speaker 5: off season and Lebron's contract comes off the books. The

679
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Speaker 5: Lakers have the most cap space in the league. This

680
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 5: is the off season they go for Giannis. If that fails,

681
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Speaker 5: plan be better, be good. But you you build Luca

682
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Speaker 5: what he needs. Rome was not built in a day, Colin,

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Speaker 5: Come on, man, I can't believe you're hating on Luca.

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Speaker 3: Rome was done faster than the Luca Lebron.

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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves Troika is working with J.

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Speaker 3: Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 6: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The Herd.

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Speaker 3: Line Sam Darnald next hour.

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Speaker 1: See if you're loyal in life, you know people, people

690
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: want to be in your orbit. So we get Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold in about an hour from now in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: It's The Herd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: in Noone Easter not a em Pacific on Fox Sports

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00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow on The Herd, we debut some new futuristic technology

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00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: on this show. I see the graphic Colin on the

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Speaker 1: cutting Edge, which I rarely.

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Speaker 3: Reside in that space.

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Speaker 1: So tomorrow Cutting Edge, you know, I just saw something

701
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Speaker 1: I'm just reading. I don't bring my phone out until

702
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: like halfway through the show. I don't want to be

703
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: bothered halfway through the show. Though it gets later, Sometimes

704
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: stories break. I'm reading a story about multiple teams in

705
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: college football LSU Texas have crossed the forty million dollar

706
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Speaker 1: threshold with nil, and I've been hearing this for years.

707
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Speaker 1: It is not sustainable. It's like people have been telling

708
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: me that about the debt my entire life. It is

709
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Speaker 1: not sustainable.

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Speaker 3: Well, it is.

711
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Speaker 1: If our GDP grows, are economies growing. If the economy grows,

712
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Speaker 1: we can handle debt. Europe's bigger issue. There are economies

713
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Speaker 1: not growing at the speed of ours, so they can

714
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Speaker 1: handle less debt. So you know, I hear this all

715
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Speaker 1: the time. Oh, I have found in my life when

716
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: people say something it's not sustainable, it all comes down

717
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: to one basic question, how much do we love it?

718
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: If we love something, it's sustainable. People find money, Companies

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Speaker 1: find money, universities find money if they care. And at

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Speaker 1: Texas they won a national championship. These billionaires have never

721
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: had more chips stacked, and they're like, yeah, I'll give

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Speaker 1: you an the other seven million dollar check. I mean,

723
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Speaker 1: Mark Cuban sold the Mavericks and made like three hundred

724
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Speaker 1: and eighty billion dollars or something insane. That's what he

725
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: sold him for. How much he got I don't know

726
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: after taxes, but he wrote a massive check. Like is

727
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: that the last check that Mark Cuban could afford? We

728
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: are exploding in this country with billionaires and one hundred millionaires.

729
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: In fact, the other a couple of weeks ago, I

730
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Speaker 1: have a friend that lives down on the coast of Florida,

731
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Speaker 1: and I got a little email from him and he said, oh,

732
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: he goes. You know, it's so expensive down here. And

733
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you have Florida's coast has always been expensive.

734
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Speaker 1: And I went to like reeltor dot com and I

735
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 1: priced the most expensive homes in like West Palm Beach.

736
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Speaker 1: I just want to see what they were. I was like,

737
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,959
Speaker 1: ten homes in it was still one hundred million. It's

738
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Speaker 1: like and I'm told the that's a problem. AI is

739
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: going to displace jobs. Europe's falling apart, and I'm like it.

740
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: There was not that many hundred million dollar homes in

741
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Speaker 1: West Palm Beach three years ago. But people like the water,

742
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Speaker 1: they like the beach, they like Florida, they like no

743
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: state taxes. They like the less, you know, fewer regulations,

744
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: So Miami's become a massive tech cub and a lot

745
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: of rich people internationally are moving there. If you love something,

746
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Speaker 1: it's sustainable. In America, we'll find money. So I read

747
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Speaker 1: all these nil stories that everybody's just like forty million.

748
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, Ohio State spent twenty and

749
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Speaker 1: all I heard was that is not sustainable. Now we're

750
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: at forty a USC spending thirty and they're building a

751
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: three hundred million dollar facility and they're paying Lincoln Riley

752
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Speaker 1: eighty million dollars on a contract.

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Speaker 3: It's la.

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Speaker 1: They'll find money. That's all I know. In Georgia, very

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Speaker 1: few things are bigger than Georgia Bulldog football. They're gonna

756
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: end up finding twenty five million a year. That's what

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do. Joel Klatt was on earlier. We talked

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00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: about Fernando Mendoza. The prospect is he Andrew Luck No,

759
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: but Klatt thinks very highly of him. Every single quarterback

760
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Speaker 1: that has to go and win a Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: win big playoff games has to own the game from

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Speaker 1: the pocket.

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Speaker 3: You have to do that.

764
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Speaker 1: In the National Football League, you cannot run around yourself

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Speaker 1: into a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that that happens.

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Speaker 1: And when you look at Mendoza and his best performances

768
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Speaker 1: and his most clutch performances and the most important parts

769
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Speaker 1: of the season, what was he doing Colin making huge

770
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Speaker 1: throws from the pocket?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I like him a little stiff, according to all the

773
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: NFL people I talked to, a little stiff. I don't

774
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Speaker 1: think it gets the way of his game. He's like

775
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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan plus. But I wouldn't get rid of Max Crosby.

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Speaker 1: They have a ton of draft picks, I would.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: My theory on this whole thing is do what the

779
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: Seahawks do, keep your defense really young, draft well, and

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Speaker 1: if you have to spend money, spend it on a

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Speaker 1: star receiver, a quarterback, a left tackle, maybe a center.

782
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: I just you know, I just saw today a list

783
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Speaker 1: of the top free agents available in the NFL, and

784
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Speaker 1: like number four was the Ravens center from Iowa, a

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Speaker 1: Tyler Linnebaum. And my take was, Oh, that's what the

786
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Speaker 1: Raiders should do. Go follow the Bears footprint. What's the

787
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: first thing? Because they have a left tackle and then

788
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Speaker 1: the rest of the old line They've got an interior

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Speaker 1: o Ligneman JPJ from Oregon, good player, but they're a

790
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: mess at center because he's playing guard. So the Raiders

791
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: are a mess at center. Go do what the Bears did,

792
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson for Caleb Williams, got Drew Dolman at center,

793
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Speaker 1: Joe Tooney at guard, Jonah Jackson at guard, solidified guard,

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Speaker 1: center guard, stay away from Caleb's feet, and what happened

795
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Speaker 1: his you know, his big plays increased, his sacks and

796
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: negative plays regressed, and it was a magical season for Caleb.

797
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Speaker 1: If you're the Raiders and they got cap money, go

798
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Speaker 1: get the Raven center. He's entering his prime. Anchor that

799
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Speaker 1: offensive line. Colt Miller on the left side, the Oregon

800
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: kid who they drafted a couple of years ago, is

801
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 1: a nice player.

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00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 3: He's in.

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Speaker 1: He'll be an elite guard probably at some point in

804
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Speaker 1: the next couple of years. But that's right, spend my money.

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Speaker 1: I think Mendoz is really good. Sam Darnold's joining us

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00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: next hour.

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00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: Again.

808
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Speaker 1: I want you guys to freak out on the futuristic

809
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: advancements we're making on the show tomorrow. But about nine

810
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: months ago, one of my one of the big shots

811
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Speaker 1: at Fox came down and said, hey, get a load

812
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Speaker 1: of this.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of it?

814
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: And I just I couldn't sleep for about four days.

815
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Speaker 1: So it may be a little unsettling to the pets

816
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Speaker 1: and the kids be seated when we introduce it. I'm

817
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: not sure if Jmac may have to take some drama. Mean,

818
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: it can get a little rocky and turbulent on the

819
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Speaker 1: flight tomorrow. This is a lot, This is new for

820
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Speaker 1: you and I'm not sure. I'm not going to give

821
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: it away, but it's a lot to handle, so just

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Speaker 1: make sure you come in stable tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Well they did tell me you may need a gummy

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Speaker 5: for this experience, so I am bringing some pharmaceuticals.

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Speaker 1: I'm always pro gummy