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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL

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Speaker 1: Podcast from Indianapolis, Indiana. Whoa motte? Dan hands? There? I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by a sweet filled with heroes. Mark Sesler, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Here

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Speaker 1: we are Gregg overlooking as as I speak to him,

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Speaker 1: Greg looking out over the field of Lucas Oil Stadium.

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Speaker 1: The two thousand ten a f C South champions once

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Speaker 1: roamed here. Greg goose bumps. Aren't they a f C

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Speaker 1: Championship runner up? Banner still flying high somewhere? They took

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Speaker 1: that down night? They took it down? Did they get it?

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Speaker 1: I think they're still here? Yes, he's pointing, they're still up, um, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Yes here. We are in Indie and we are in

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Speaker 1: one of the the I guess it's a luxury suite.

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Speaker 1: Why not it is? It's Huntington Bank West has some

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Speaker 1: connections that were class bank. The mayor of Tybee's little

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Speaker 1: brother was an executive at Huntington Bank and he texted

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Speaker 1: that sweet. They got some free value out of buying

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Speaker 1: this suite. I'll tell you that about that. I used

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Speaker 1: to deliver Mayo to Huntington Bank and Sully just took

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Speaker 1: a photo for me. Thank you, Sully. Two thousand fourteen

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Speaker 1: The yeah game? Well, when you lose seven, you want

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Speaker 1: to make sure you remembers anyway. So it's great to

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Speaker 1: be here at Lucas Oil Stadium. The Combine at least

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Speaker 1: like the proper Combine where all the the underwear Olympics

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Speaker 1: take place as yet to start, but we get in

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Speaker 1: the ground for the press conferences, for the play, for

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Speaker 1: the coaches and gms. Uh. And that's what where we

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Speaker 1: were today Wednesday. All day we spent in a very heated, cramped,

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Speaker 1: And we talked to a lot of or listen to

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Speaker 1: a lot of NFL coaches and gms. And we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about what we took out of that takeaways from

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Speaker 1: the Scouting Combined Press or Day one. Also, we have

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Speaker 1: bit later. To. In fact, the first is none other

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Speaker 1: Rap sheet rumors get excited for that. With rap sheet

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Speaker 1: but we need to deliver. He does need to come

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Speaker 1: face to face with the fact that he's a rumormonger. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: And yes, as I said, we're gonna talk about the

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Speaker 1: takeaways from the UH combined pressors and Kevin Patcha he's

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Speaker 1: us and talk about his takeaways and we'll all share

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Speaker 1: all of our takeaways. But before we do that. There

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Speaker 1: is a bunch of news to get to. So lindsay

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Speaker 1: full time behind the glass, lindsay, are you a millionaire?

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Speaker 1: All right, she's there, you go, she's a millionaire. I

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Speaker 1: can't believe she's here. Still, Uh, let's do some news.

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Speaker 1: I think Mark help me out with this. I think

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Speaker 1: he means he's left to stay out late, hang out

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Speaker 1: team officials. But he also his wife game a free pass.

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Speaker 1: You never I mean you and I on the flight

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Speaker 1: Unison A Bad Mom's Christmas. We watched that together. We

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Speaker 1: alluding to is real. No. No, what he means is

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Speaker 1: officials all get sauced what happens. Why is Mark and

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Speaker 1: West like, oh my work? Because what arecause? Because you

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Speaker 1: are throwing a head coach under the proof. I am

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Speaker 1: very clear this has nothing to do with Gruden. I

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Speaker 1: am saying nothing at all. It is a common sight. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So many NFL head coaches being accosted and confronted by

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. A lot of wags listen to this. Also.

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Speaker 1: The basic breakdown here is that Gruden said in himself,

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Speaker 1: what a hall pass means, it means hey got fun,

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Speaker 1: got some fun. Okay, Mark, I'm fine. Uncomfortable, No, not

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Speaker 1: a Hall pass, you could do whatever he wants. Obviously interesting.

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Speaker 1: Not even nearly, Greg, I'm not even on the top

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Speaker 1: five of an interesting comments on the show so far.

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Speaker 1: Let's start. Let's start with my New York Jets, who

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Speaker 1: made some news once a bout a time, like three

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Speaker 1: West Pop quiz Sons of Anarchy? Very very true. It

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Speaker 1: of Moe Wilkerson's basically irresponsibility. I do wonder. It's a

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Speaker 1: an All Pro for the Steelers. But this, uh, Greg

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Speaker 1: talk about Kirk Cousins is about to become the highest

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Speaker 1: I'm at peace with where it is. I am at peace.

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Speaker 1: He just declined he could not meet you on the

426
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Speaker 1: higher road, and we take the baton and start a

427
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Speaker 1: few with him. I just you know what I mean. Talk.

428
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Speaker 1: We got a lot to get to because Ian your

429
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: name comes up probably more than anyone else on our

430
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Speaker 1: podcast because we have to cite you, and most of

431
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Speaker 1: the reporting because we were working for the same company,

432
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Speaker 1: Big Mac comes up a lot as well. We started

433
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Speaker 1: a segment last week called rap that you know we

434
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Speaker 1: thought when okay, it was like a six out of ten. Uh.

435
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Speaker 1: Now here's an opportunity for rap Sheet himself to be

436
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Speaker 1: here as we go through your reports. Now let's start

437
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Speaker 1: off the top, right off the bat Do you have

438
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Speaker 1: an issue with the fact that the segments called rap

439
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: sheet rumors when it's based off your reporting? It does? Um.

440
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: I would say I've come to grips with my role

441
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: in this football world, right, Like, so there's there's some

442
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, source, this guy just got released,

443
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: or this trade just happened. Outside of that, it's a

444
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Speaker 1: lot of like this is probably gonna happen, this is

445
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,239
Speaker 1: probably not gonna happen. Keep an eye in this thing. Uh.

446
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Speaker 1: And So I used to get offended when people would

447
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Speaker 1: call it rumors, um or gossip. But I did get

448
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Speaker 1: voted biggest gossip in high school in the your book Superlatives,

449
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: So I'm really happy to live up to that. Um.

450
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: If they're all rumors, then you can't be wrong ever,

451
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Speaker 1: So that's nice. Uh. Yeah, I would say the internet

452
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Speaker 1: would would view some of that differently. Um, But yeah,

453
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Speaker 1: I agree with that interpretation right there. Alright, Ian is

454
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Speaker 1: a very busy man. So let's start going through these

455
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Speaker 1: uh rap sheet rumors. Starting with a report that came

456
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Speaker 1: out just a couple of hours before uh we recorded

457
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Speaker 1: today's podcast on Wednesday afternoon. Here it comes the exact

458
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: tweet for me, and the expectation is that Patriots tight

459
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Speaker 1: end Rob Gronkowski will return for After pondering his future, comma,

460
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: I'm told, I'm told he said we may never make

461
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Speaker 1: a he may never make a grand announcement, but the

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Speaker 1: belief is entertainment opportunities, parenthetical acting, w W E closed,

463
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Speaker 1: parenthetical will wait? Is that you doing that? I don't know?

464
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Uh yeah. So it sounds like Gronk is

465
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Speaker 1: coming back, and which is not really surprised to anyone.

466
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Speaker 1: I mean, people who know him well expect him to

467
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Speaker 1: come back. The Patriots expected him to come back. Uh.

468
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: And I do really think he enjoys this of people

469
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: wondering what he's gonna do, the Patriots probably wondering what

470
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Speaker 1: he's gonna do, kind of the uncertainty. And you know,

471
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Speaker 1: he's he's different, dude. Um, He's about as real as

472
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Speaker 1: they come. But he'll say things like and he's people

473
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: have spoken with this offseason like Ali mill and I'm

474
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: retired or I'm just kidding, I'm coming back. Like he

475
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: really has sort of played this up a little bit. Um.

476
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,239
Speaker 1: He also is rarely sort of serious about himself, so

477
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect a like, all right, guys, I'm coming

478
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: back kind of thing. Like to me, what it sounds

479
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: like is he's just gonna show up for off season

480
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: conditioning in April and then a big all right, So

481
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Speaker 1: do you get the sense that he's the kind of

482
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Speaker 1: guy who doesn't really care as much about something like

483
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Speaker 1: being viewed as the greatest tight end in history or

484
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Speaker 1: playing a couple more years to kind of cement that, Well,

485
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Speaker 1: I don't think he cares about being the greatest tight

486
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Speaker 1: end in history. Um, I I've just never heard that

487
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Speaker 1: come up. I mean, I think if you ask Belichick,

488
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Speaker 1: he would make a full throated argument that if he

489
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Speaker 1: continues that he's going to be that. I just don't

490
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Speaker 1: think for Gronk, it's it's really I don't think that

491
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Speaker 1: that's the way he thinks. I think the injuries have

492
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Speaker 1: been very hard on him. What about the report or

493
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Speaker 1: or rumor from another guy that you once had a

494
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: feud with Tom Kerrn in the Boston area, a lot

495
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: of feuds saying, uh that Gronk you know, thought about

496
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: retiring even in training camp across his mind, that he

497
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: was not happy with how the Patriots handled some of

498
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Speaker 1: his um desired ways to train, and that he really

499
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: even thought about walking away back in August. Yeah, I

500
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: think that was accurate. Um. I was actually texting Karen

501
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: about that today. I mean, that's more bridges. Oh no,

502
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: Karen and I always have it off again on again

503
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Speaker 1: type deal. He's a great guy. We we co exist

504
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: well and except when we don't. Once, once you got

505
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Speaker 1: out of the locker room, I believe he wants compared

506
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Speaker 1: you to a little rat kind of running around like

507
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Speaker 1: looking at looking to eat little pieces of cheese. Bring

508
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: that back, right, Yeah, I mean that sounds that sounds right.

509
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Speaker 1: And I don't think people realize what it's like in

510
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Speaker 1: the Patriots locker room. It's not like there's a big

511
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: buffet where you just sort of like get your bowl

512
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Speaker 1: and shovel in the lasagne. It's you gotta dive for

513
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Speaker 1: your cheese over the place, like oh there's there's and

514
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: in spikes. He might only be in the locker room

515
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: for three minutes. He got to grab him when he's there. Anyway, Um, yes,

516
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: let's it was. It was a hard year for Gronk.

517
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: I think the injuries are difficult for him. Not being

518
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Speaker 1: able to come back from the concussion in sort of

519
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: like a snap was really hard. Um and the the

520
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: Belichick tension that we all talked about with Brady and

521
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: and Um, Brady's trainer Alex Guerrero, and you know all

522
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: that stuff. I mean that existed beyond Brady existed with

523
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Speaker 1: Gronk too. It was a hard year. It's always going

524
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: to be a hard year. Uh And yeah, I think

525
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: he needed to take a deep breath from it. Would

526
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Speaker 1: they ever trade him? I know we have a lot

527
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: of news, but this one's more interesting than the rest

528
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: of him combined in my mind. Would they ever trade Gronk?

529
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Speaker 1: I would never say never for the Patriots trading anyone

530
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: except for Tom Brady, who was never getting traded. Yeah.

531
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Speaker 1: Dan wants to move on. Let's keep moving. We got

532
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: a lot to get to. Uh. Next up from rap

533
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: Sheet Big report, the Broncos are in talks to trade

534
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: for Redskin safety Sua Crave sources say, says rapping Forth,

535
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: they are the team most interested in the likely landing

536
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: spot for the talented former second rounder. No deal done yet, Saucy.

537
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: These tweets looking at them over Dan's shoulder. The expanded

538
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: character count. You're a fan of it, apparently, I just

539
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to be one of

540
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: those people that's like, oh, I'm so important that I

541
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: have to use all characters. It's not like that. It's

542
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: just sometimes you need a little extra more so like

543
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: my Craven tweet was one tweet, whereas in the past

544
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Speaker 1: it would have been too multiple. I like, I like

545
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: the format. Yeah, Uh, this one is interesting and I

546
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: sounds like this one's gonna happen. It's just really a

547
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: matter of agreeing on compensation and just kind of figuring

548
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: out where they're out. I mean, the Redskins are are

549
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: definitely open to trading him. The Broncos wanted more than anyone. Uh,

550
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: he would assuming he wants to play, and I know

551
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: he does, and I know the Ridskins have some concerns

552
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: about it. Um. He's an interesting piece because he's sort

553
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: of fits in like the safety linebacker kind of hybrid

554
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: DWN Buchanan type of you know, type of guy. Um,

555
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: he's really talented. The Broncos loved him coming out. Um,

556
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: so it sounds like this one's gonna happen, and probably

557
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: happen here. Uh. Next up, First, we'll start with a

558
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: report from Dale Lolly of d k Pittsburgh sports dot Com.

559
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: He reported Kevin Colvert just said that the Steelers are

560
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: not interested in trading Martevios Bryant and have not called anyone.

561
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: Said they have gotten calls, but have said they aren't

562
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: interested in trading him. Ian chimes in with a quote

563
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: retweet that is true. There is interest from several other teams.

564
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: Didn't you try to get me to trademark this a

565
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: couple of years back? I did. That's definitely not me

566
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: because I have no business sense, but probably somebody did,

567
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: you know. I think it was you at Um. Yeah,

568
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: so this is one where you know, this was a

569
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: storyline we're following during the season where Martavis Bryant wanted

570
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: to be traded, denied it, then came out and admitted

571
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: that he did in fact want to be trade and

572
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: then he was kind of a good soldier and played

573
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: and played well and watched Juju Smith Schuster kind of

574
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: take some of the shine. Um, they are getting calls,

575
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: there is interest. Uh, there's a couple issues obviously. You know,

576
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: he's he's dealing with suspension, he came off suspension, he

577
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: made made his way back from banishment. There's that, there's

578
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: the new contract that he wants he sort of do

579
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Speaker 1: for one. It's a lot going on here and I

580
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: don't know if they'll be able to trade him and

581
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: get the sort of interest. Um. I feel like Colbert's

582
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: not a guy who b s is a lot that

583
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: if he says publicly we're not interested in trading him,

584
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: I take that a little more, you know, seriously than

585
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: some gms you might say that. Yeah, I just when

586
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: you see the first of all, that just means he

587
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: hasn't gotten an offer that's worth taking. I mean, there

588
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: definitely is a price. I just we do this so

589
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: often where you come here, you talk to a gym,

590
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: and everyone's on the record here, right, So I remember

591
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: a couple of years back and no fault of Rick Spielman.

592
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: I definitely get it. But you know, tells all of

593
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: us I have no plans to trade Percy Harvin, all right,

594
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: that's that, and then end up trading Percy Harvin. So

595
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll we'll see what happens. See what happened.

596
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: Martavis Bryant made some plays last year, wasn't as maybe

597
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: as a bigger playmaker he was before the suspension, still

598
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: the same guy post suspension that he was pretty in

599
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: your mind he had all the drops earlier in the year,

600
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: and part of that was Ben Roethlisberger and him were

601
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: not on the same page with their DEEPO. But I

602
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: thought he played well down the stretch I'd be willing

603
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: to kind of go out and say, yeah, he can

604
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Speaker 1: be the same guy again. Coming up next, here we

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Speaker 1: go hashtag Browns. That's how Ian starts this tweet. Basic

606
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: social media. Uh. Brown's coach Hugh Jackson said, Joe Thomas

607
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: will quote come out and let us know fairly soon

608
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Speaker 1: about what he wants to do. I'm told he is

609
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: preparing to play, and those who know him well believe

610
00:31:54,600 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: he'll be back. No marks tlaer. This makes you happy

611
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: because you love yourself some Joey. I love Joe Thomas,

612
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: but I love him enough where I would like him

613
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: to do what he truly wants to do because he

614
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: feels like a media fireball right now. I just don't

615
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: want him to come back for one more year. And

616
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: they go to and fourteen in the entire house implodes

617
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: upon itself, like if he's off the greener past. That's

618
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: another way that years. I mean, everybody, I do believe

619
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: he's coming back. Um. I think the Browns think he's

620
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: coming back as well. It sounds like he's gonna probably

621
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: announce the some sort of social media way probably pretty soon.

622
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: It's interesting because I mean, I feel like we've done

623
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: the Browns are about to break out or come back

624
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: or whatever, like nine thousand times. I sat with an

625
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: office coordinator last night who had to play them last

626
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: year and think the defense is going to be great

627
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: and that they are basically a quarterback away from being

628
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: a legitimately media ocre team. That's a huge well for them.

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Speaker 1: It's a I mean, you know, if you're mediocre, then

630
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: you're probably like five and five or six and six

631
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: starting December and then throw they'll throw another parade in

632
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: Cleveland if they're in playoff contention going into the center

633
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: settled up? Could his decisions be based on what happens

634
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: at quarterback? Though? If you go in with a J McCarron,

635
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: like the draft pick, no one's excited about it. If

636
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Speaker 1: it ever shook out that way, No is a J

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Speaker 1: McCarron good or I mean, like that wouldn't be a solution.

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Speaker 1: Maybe well to unsee Andy Dalton news about average can

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Speaker 1: Thomas wait, we can't wait that long to find out really,

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Speaker 1: because he's not at least not till the draft, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think that they also thought he was

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Speaker 1: coming back when they did the extension for him last year,

643
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Speaker 1: But I mean I would say this a J McCarron

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Speaker 1: as someone who could come in and hold the place

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Speaker 1: of a rookie that they're going to take potentially number

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Speaker 1: one overall, would be a pretty good option compared to

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Speaker 1: the other options. Next up, here's a nice scoop some

648
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Speaker 1: good scoopage so far this weekie, and you're doing well?

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Speaker 1: Uh hashtag usc QB. Sam Donald won't throw at the

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Speaker 1: combine here in Indy. He'll do everything else saving throwing

651
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Speaker 1: for his pro days. Anybody are there people in this

652
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Speaker 1: building mad at Sam Donald? Is this a big deal?

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Speaker 1: I'm mad? Why not throw that? I think the there's

654
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Speaker 1: two reasons to not throw. One is you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: have the one everyone talks about, which is you're not

656
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: gonna have your receiver's not gonna you know. Um. The

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Speaker 1: other reason is it sounds like he's acting like and

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Speaker 1: maybe is probably is the presumptive number one. And if

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Speaker 1: you have nothing to prove, then why would you go

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Speaker 1: out and throw and potentially look bad? What's interesting is

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Speaker 1: is that gonna is he just gonna be number one

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00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: and they'll just be that? Or is it gonna change it?

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to impress us here or I don't know,

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Speaker 1: um what happened. You know the ratings that the combine

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Speaker 1: can change, and I'm curiously which way. But I've seen

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Speaker 1: like someone put out a list of quarterbacks who haven't

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Speaker 1: who decided not to throw at the combine, and it's

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Speaker 1: a list of quarterbacks that either got drafted how high

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Speaker 1: or higher than you'd expect. It's like Ryan Tannehill didn't

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Speaker 1: even throw at the combine and he ended up going

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Speaker 1: much higher than there was. Like it's a long list

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Speaker 1: of many number one picks and many guys who got overdrafted.

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00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: Like if it's not gonna really matter or help you,

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Speaker 1: why bother? Speaking of throwing, let's say we were walking

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Speaker 1: down the street outside Lucas Oil Stadium and I took

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Speaker 1: your phone and flung it and it landed into a

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Speaker 1: garbage truck on the move, landed right in the back

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Speaker 1: on its way to Muncie, Indiana. Screwed? Would you be

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Speaker 1: on a one to one hundred scepters driving the car right, um,

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Speaker 1: middle finger driving and can't text and drive? Then I'm okay,

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Speaker 1: I would say probably not as screwed as you think,

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Speaker 1: because I have several other devices, or I could I

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Speaker 1: text I text from my computer. I text from my iPad.

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Speaker 1: Um making phone calls would be difficult. Um, I would

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Speaker 1: have to have some weird FaceTime calls with some aigens

686
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Speaker 1: or team executives or coaches, DC area shock jock. But

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Speaker 1: not easy to foil. You you have other your yeah, yeah, yeah,

688
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know there'd be some would be

689
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Speaker 1: some overnighted phones coming in quick, get on the cloud,

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Speaker 1: restore the info. I would be like a nightmare scenario. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're a superhero with a utility though. That's uh, two more,

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Speaker 1: two more, and then we gotta let rep sheet go.

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Speaker 1: This is one who, like a true insider, never sleeps.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. Just this one gives me goose bumps

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Speaker 1: just looking at it. Spotted on the way to Indie

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Speaker 1: colon hashtag oh u QB Baker Mayfield in a middle seat,

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Speaker 1: right next to hashtag rams coach Sean McVeigh on a

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Speaker 1: at Southwest Air. You're looking for like extra miles or

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Speaker 1: some not they might reach right, Who are your McVeigh

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Speaker 1: was seated first, Mayfield hustled to sit next to him.

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Speaker 1: There may be some QB talk going on. Oh a

702
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: little flavor like it. It's just like scenes from a flavor,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, a little flavor, I mean little salt

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Speaker 1: and pepper. The amount of people who commented surprised that

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00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh flew Southwest was astounding. It was amazing, and

706
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: like he's amazing. He's a regular dude. I mean, I

707
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Speaker 1: don't know what I expected. I mean, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: stand sends the private plane to India. He was asked

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Speaker 1: about what he talked about with Mayfield after his press

710
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Speaker 1: press conference. On the side, he said he liked mayfield

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00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: comfortable swag. That that was the way he termed it,

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Speaker 1: Like it's like swag, but it's like comfortable swag. He's

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Speaker 1: he takes it's not trying to put it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: did too. I thought it was really perfectly. It is interesting,

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Speaker 1: like you know, big obviously, Baker Mayfield is gonna be

716
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Speaker 1: like a huge topic here and for the next couple

717
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: of months or whatever, and he's going to get the

718
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: Johnny comparisons and all that. He got nothing but rave

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Speaker 1: reviews in Mobile. He said, I mean he's a little

720
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Speaker 1: bit of a prick, which I mean in the nicest sense,

721
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: because like he is a competitive two and you've gotten

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Speaker 1: that as well. Yeah, like he's kind of a prick,

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Speaker 1: but he's actually, you know, not a bad guy like

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Speaker 1: that type of thing. It sounds he has a bit

725
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: of a sounds familiar. It sounds familiar. But the way

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Speaker 1: he practiced was something I think stood out to everyone.

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Speaker 1: He seems like he's doing fine. I don't think it's

728
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Speaker 1: gonna be a Manzel type deal. Yeah, Tom Pellicero had

729
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Speaker 1: the column where he went he talked too with all

730
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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, and Mayfield was the one that jumped off

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Speaker 1: the page because for all the qualities that you think

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Speaker 1: would make him troublesome, scouts freaking love him. So I

733
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Speaker 1: would actually question anyone who does compare him to Manziel.

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Speaker 1: I think there's enough nuance there that that Baker Mayfield

735
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Speaker 1: clearly a different kind of guy than Johnny Manziel. Mark

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Speaker 1: Ian has it in his contract that you're not allowed

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Speaker 1: to mention other NFL network politized will scrub. And finally,

738
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Speaker 1: with the march, with the march looming, with March looming,

739
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: and there's no way to take it back. There should

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Speaker 1: be an edit button, Anderson, so I only stop you quickly.

741
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Speaker 1: The tweet where I've had most retweeted in my life

742
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Speaker 1: was on Watson tearing his A c L last year. Uh,

743
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: it was a it was unfortunate in an awful moment,

744
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: and a tweet that was sent around the world and

745
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: it had a typo and I'm still annoying about it.

746
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: I can't take it back if I have a different,

747
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: like tweet nightmares SNAr scenario. The tweet that got most

748
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Speaker 1: sent around the world that I sent was when the

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Speaker 1: video Tom Brady's jersey getting stolen and I titled it

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Speaker 1: Robert Craft handing out Victory cigars. That's the newsman to me. Alright. Finally,

751
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 1: with Marge looming and some murkiness around hashtag Vikings QB

752
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater's contract, he is expected to be a free agent.

753
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: Source to say Minnesota is not planning to assert that

754
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: his contract tolls, and Bridgewater is proceeding as if he's

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Speaker 1: a free agent. Red Mustang, It was great, wasn't it? Red? Sorry? Um? Okay,

756
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: now want to leave the news to the professionals. I'm out.

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00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: Um now let me say this. That's a prop by

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Speaker 1: the way, please, um let me say this. Uh, this

759
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: didn't have to be this way, like the Vikings could

760
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Speaker 1: have said, Teddy, we're gonna fight you on this, but

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Speaker 1: instead they they're letting him go essentially right in this

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Speaker 1: and and you know, it would have been an argument.

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Speaker 1: I don't know which way it would have gone, honestly,

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Speaker 1: because the way it's written, it's if he's not healthy

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Speaker 1: by the six game and he was on pup, he

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Speaker 1: probably would have been able to pass the physical. Would

767
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: have been arguments either way. But you know, I heard

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Speaker 1: back in the seat during the mid season when this

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Speaker 1: sort of became an issue, that they were not going

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Speaker 1: to fight him on this. But it's amazing how long

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Speaker 1: it's taken. And finally, Rich Spielman today admitted publicly to

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Speaker 1: p f T I think that he was going to

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Speaker 1: be a free agent, but it's just took forever. He said.

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Speaker 1: It's ultimately up to the NFL. But that's what he expct.

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00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's true, but they are going to defer

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Speaker 1: to the team. If the team is not fighting whatever,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be a free agent. Um, I'm really curious

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Speaker 1: where he goes. I would what do you think, what

779
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: do you think happens with the Vikings while you're here? Uh?

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Speaker 1: I think that they probably end up signing Kirk cousins

781
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Speaker 1: to a lot of money, but probably not as much

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Speaker 1: as the Jets are going to sign him to my

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Speaker 1: guests on Bridgewater or offer offer, but that he would

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Speaker 1: go to ultimately that he would would be amazing. If

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Speaker 1: you had you'd say he landed Inta. That's my guess.

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Speaker 1: I would say, you know, Minnesota, I think Arizona has

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Speaker 1: a legit, very very real chance. UH really do a

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Speaker 1: lot to like there, uh for Teddy, you know, if

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Speaker 1: he can't get a starting job sort of handed to him,

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Speaker 1: which it seems far fetched considering health wise. I think

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Speaker 1: the Panthers are looking to upgrade at their backup quarterback spot.

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00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: Um they got Norv Turner and Scott Turner who had

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Speaker 1: him in Minnesota. Love Teddy. I could see him going

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00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: there as a backup. M. Well there you go. I

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Speaker 1: on fire. You did it, you came in here. I

796
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: feel like you're leading the insider game this week. I

797
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: feel like Jay Glazer retired and now it's really and

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Speaker 1: locking for is like in the in the back and

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Speaker 1: it's really a rap sheet versus schefter thing. It always

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Speaker 1: has been, and this is so far. I feel like

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Speaker 1: you're in the lead. I can't say anything like this

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00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: because all does his jinx and everything. Then let me

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Speaker 1: sound it. Can Ian Rappaport fall him at rap sheet

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00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: and he's on NFL network constantly. Right now, it's Rappaport season. Ian,

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00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: Thank you buddy, Thanks guys, big fish, big fish, rolling

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00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: right along rap sheet out the door. Here it's a

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00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: sweet thirty three b at Lucas Oil Stadium now sitting

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Speaker 1: in that spot. Wow, hunka manny is Kevin Patrick coming

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Speaker 1: at you? And Patra downgraded this seat? I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I think if anything, uh, just yeah, you fill it out,

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Speaker 1: fill it out real nice and based on the time

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Speaker 1: of year, late February heading into March. Famously, you bulk

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00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: up big in the winter and then slim down for

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Speaker 1: the swimsuits and you got a wedding coming up. Where's

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Speaker 1: your body after? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I didn't bulk up

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Speaker 1: as much this winter because I was trying to keep

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Speaker 1: it thin for I don't what is the wedding by

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Speaker 1: the way, May nine, same day as the one in

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Speaker 1: England they stole our day? Do you do you struggle

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Speaker 1: with people having, you know, such high expectations for when

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Speaker 1: they do see your body that there's some level of underwhelmed.

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Speaker 1: I've come to an understanding with it. I just like Dan,

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Speaker 1: Dan does not believe in the the under promim I

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Speaker 1: think I think most of the listeners understand Dan's ways. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know. I mean I've always been impressed by your

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Speaker 1: hot bod. You know that now? Kevin Patras here because

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Speaker 1: keV was amongst the group of a t N heroes

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Speaker 1: down on the floor for the press conferences, a bunch

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Speaker 1: of gms and coaches spoke. So this will be the

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Speaker 1: time for us now to share our takeaways from Wednesday

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Speaker 1: press conferences at the old Indianapolis Convention Center. I think

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Speaker 1: the big the big star, and someone feel free to

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00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: jump in and disagree, but I think that John Gruden

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Speaker 1: and his big comeback at the combine. He hadn't been

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Speaker 1: been here in what fifteen years something like that? Was

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Speaker 1: it that long? Something like that? Anyway, years ten to

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Speaker 1: twenty years ago, John Gruden was a fixture here. Now

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Speaker 1: he's back and it was like you've never left. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I'll say that, but then also add a little polish

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Speaker 1: to John Gruden after years on television. Uh, here's what

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Speaker 1: he had to say. The thing that pick got picked

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00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: up in a lot of places in the news was

843
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Speaker 1: his feelings on analytics, which is very hot. Right now,

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Speaker 1: you're here in all the hallways around the combine. Here's

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Speaker 1: what Gruden had to say, and I'll try to throw

846
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: the game back to you know it. Really as a broadcaster,

847
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: I went around and observed every team, asked a lot

848
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 1: of questions, took a look at the facilities, how they're

849
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 1: doing business. Um, there's a stack of analytical data or data.

850
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: However you want to say that word that people don't

851
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: even know how to read it. It's one thing to

852
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: have the data or data. It's another thing you know

853
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: how to read a damn thing. Uh. So I'm not

854
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: gonna rely on GPS s and all the modern technology.

855
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: I will certainly have some people that are professional that

856
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: can help me from that regard. But I still think

857
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: doing things the old fashioned way, uh is a good way.

858
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: And uh we're gonna try to lean lean a needle

859
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: that way a little bit. Greg Is it crazy for

860
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: me to think that's a little foreboding That talk from

861
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 1: a guy that's been out of the game when people

862
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: are wondering if he was out too long, and then

863
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: he comes back and says, oh, the way people are

864
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: doing it now take me back to I don't think

865
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: it's that rare. He's just more open about it. And

866
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: when he's talking about the GPS that he thought talking about,

867
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: you know the data from the next gen stats where

868
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: they put the GPS in the players actually talking about

869
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: is now well, he's a terrible driver. Right is now available.

870
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: I think there's a chunk of teams that are using

871
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: it to their advantage, and there's plenty of teams like

872
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: him and Regie Mackenzie I think as a GM is

873
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: pretty on John Gruden's level that really aren't getting into it.

874
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: But he also listen to Steve Wilkes and other new

875
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: coaches that just say, you know that football is about

876
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: running the ball. You know, we're not worried about throwing it.

877
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: So it's like he Steve Wilkes a Southern accent. We'll

878
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: get to Wilks in a second, because I had some

879
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: takeaways from his opening pressers. Obviously the new Cardinals head coach,

880
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: but yeah, I did, I mean did everybody else. Most

881
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: of you guys saw the Grooden press conference. I think, uh,

882
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: the other big takeaway West and you wrote it about

883
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: it on the website Uh, First of all, he's he's

884
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: all in on Marshawn Lynch, it sounds like, and he

885
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: they expect him to be back, and he expects him

886
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: to be part of the offense. But it was another

887
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: player West that he said is going to lead the offense.

888
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: He loves Zamari Cooper. He talked about we all think

889
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: he's a great player. We even more we think he's

890
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: a great person. And then he said, I'm gonna he's

891
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: gonna be the headliner of my offense. He's gonna be

892
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: the focal point of my offense. And it reminds me

893
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: a little bit of of where Sean McVeigh was with

894
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley last year, where the talent is so obvious,

895
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: but the season was so like maybe the most disappointed

896
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: skill position player in the NFL for a guy who

897
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: might have had some minor injuries but didn't have a

898
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: major injury that would have caused him to play that poorly. Um,

899
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: So it's on Gruden to come up with a scheme

900
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: that takes advantage of a Maori Cooper and put him

901
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 1: in position to succeed, because that talent is definitely there.

902
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: Other thoughts, gentlemen, on anyone else. I like the I

903
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: like the idea of possibly running into Grooden, you know,

904
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: tonight out at the bars. He did tell the media

905
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: that he's looking forward to seeing us, and he had

906
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,959
Speaker 1: a very early press conference, and based on his hair

907
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: and kind of his eyes, I think he might have

908
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: had a long night the night before. I didn't notice that,

909
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: and obviously it's the the aging process. But he is

910
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: a different John Gruden that he was ten to twenty

911
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: years ago. He's that he had a free pass from

912
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: his wife to do whatever haunted in Indianapolis. Yeah, he

913
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: said he had the hot pass. I believe he does

914
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: not look fifty four years old. Then he's not. He's

915
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: he doesn't look twenty five anymore. But obviously he's not

916
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: going to but he looked like a guy who's you know,

917
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: he's back after being gone for long. I will say this,

918
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like you guys have been

919
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: more into the John Gruden experience in return than I

920
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: have been. It's been on my radar heavily. Um. I

921
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of potential for deep annoyance.

922
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: But today today I felt really differently like if if

923
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: you did if you took him out of today's proceedings.

924
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: It would have been one of the Duller Combine Press

925
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: conferences days we've ever experienced. He brought life. Here's the theory.

926
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: Bruce arians was similar John Gruden set up for life.

927
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 1: He's got like a ten year contract for the highest

928
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: contract ever. You get to be a lot more truthful

929
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: in what you tell the media when you have that

930
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: much job secure. We'll find out if he's truthful. Because

931
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: he talked about Crabtree, Bruce, Servant and Lynch as if

932
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: they're all going to be stars, and many of them

933
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: are cut in the next week or two, will know

934
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: that he's full a B s, which he was completely

935
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: full of B s as a coach in the first

936
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: time around. He he talked about everyone like they were

937
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: the greatest players ever. A couple of the Crabtree questions

938
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: he made it seemed like he might not be back,

939
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: and you guys should ask Reggie mckinziy about him, not me. Uh,

940
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: Steve Wilks, since we did bring him up. He is

941
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: on the opposite end of the spectrum on some of

942
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: the new coach and obviously a lot of reason to

943
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: be optimistic. But as he was talking, I couldn't help it.

944
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: But notice what a tough spot the guy is. And

945
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 1: and we we just heard Ian say that maybe the

946
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: Cardinals would be a surprise player and make a hard

947
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: run for Cousins. We'll see if that plays out. But

948
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: even as he's talking, he's like, he's going to these

949
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: platitudes or we're gonna run the football. We're gonna run

950
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: the football, because he literally doesn't have a quarterback, and

951
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: even a minute he said, oh, it's so amazing to

952
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: have Liarry back and all that, but everybody else is

953
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: a free agent, so he doesn't really have any weapons

954
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: in the passing game other than a thirty four year

955
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: old wide receiver and no quarterbacks. He's inheriting a tough situation,

956
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: and you could sense that he emphasized several times this

957
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: is a past happy league. But my philosophy as a

958
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: head coach is established a run and everything starts up front.

959
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: The last thing I want to hear if I was

960
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: a Cardinals fan, and that that comes from his time

961
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: with the Panthers, but it's also my one takeaway from

962
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: today is that I listened to Vans Joseph say a

963
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: similar thing in Denver. We want to run the ball

964
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: and play defense. So two teams with quarterback needs and

965
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: allegedly in the Kirk Cousins hunt, have come out and

966
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 1: said we want to be a run the ball, play

967
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: defense type of operation. Is that even attractive for a quarterback?

968
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well. I mean, my takeaway from going

969
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: to John always presser was he seemed pretty confident that

970
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna get the quarterback he wants, which is Kirk Cousins.

971
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 1: He was as relaxed as we've seen him in years

972
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: at this press conference, and he was talking about that's

973
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: how they only need one more one player, like, there's

974
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: not this is not a rebuild. Were not rebuilding. He

975
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: wouldn't say it. Uh So I took away that they're

976
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: gonna make a huge run. He said he's got plenty

977
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: of cap space to offer him. I can see him

978
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: going out. He just seemed like a guy who knew

979
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: who had eye on the ball and he's gonna offer

980
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins whatever it takes. Also said he'd bring back

981
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: to Marius Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders Raps. She reported keep to

982
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: leave could be out of there. He wouldn't. He wouldn't

983
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: commit to to leave or c J. Anderson. He basically

984
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: sounded like both could be on their way out. How

985
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: about you mark somebody that jumped out to you. Well,

986
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: I feel like the guy or the team, Rick Spielman

987
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: for the Vikings, that was gonna obviously be pegged with

988
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: endless Kirk Cousin. He's had to talk about four quarterbacks,

989
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: the three quarterbacks he's letting go to market, and Kirk Cousins.

990
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: And so, in a masterful bit of stagecraft, he opened

991
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: his pressor with like a four or five minute preamble

992
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: that dodged sort of all answers entirely, and then in

993
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: the middle of it, after someone, you know, a couple

994
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: of people tried to get a few qub questions, and

995
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: he sort of said, where you've made no decisions to

996
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: bury that right out of the right out of the gate.

997
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: Someone and I'm pretty sure it was a Vikings plant,

998
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: although the Vikings probably don't agree with that assessment, asked

999
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: this bizarre question about Spielman's son in Nebraska, and it

1000
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: went on for another three to four minutes winding long answer.

1001
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: I thought this was so skillful. You wiped out nine

1002
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: minutes of your fifteen minute allotted time to answer questions

1003
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: about nothing. It was like his brother in law, Ted Becker,

1004
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: he's an impossible spot because he is, but because he's

1005
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: uniquely has three free agent quarterbacks that he's meeting with

1006
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: their agents this week. But everyone watching the press conference

1007
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: knows that he wants another quarterback more. Um, also a

1008
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: little a little news, not a ton of like big news.

1009
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: Every once in a while when we come to these things,

1010
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: there's some legitimate news like when Greg ended Steve Smith's

1011
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: panther's career that really been built up, that was notable.

1012
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: But Tyrod Taylor, when Brandon, being the Bill's GM spoke, uh,

1013
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: Tyrod Teller was obviously that's a hot topic around the Bills.

1014
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: Is he gonna stay or go? Most people think he'll

1015
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: be going elsewhere. But Brandon Bean at least is playing

1016
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: a little poker. Here's what Brenda Bean had to say

1017
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: about Tyrod Taylor's future in Buffalo. Well, Tyrod's on our roster,

1018
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: uh right now, and that's the plan. And um, we're

1019
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: just taking it day by day. And and like every position,

1020
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: we're we're trying to get better everywhere, and so we're

1021
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: looking you know, at every position including quarterback and uh.

1022
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: But Tyrod did a lot of good things for us,

1023
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: so I'm not really worried about the bonus. I see

1024
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: him on our roster right now, and um, unless something changes,

1025
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: you know, he'll be here until you know. Through that

1026
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: part translate PATCHA, Um, we're gonna keep him in our

1027
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: back pocket until we find something better. I mean. Going

1028
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: to both Beans and McDermott's pressor, there wasn't a lot

1029
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: of praise for Tyrod Taylor. They both said, yeah, he

1030
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: did some good things, said they won't cut him though.

1031
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: That's very definitive, right, but they won't cut him until

1032
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 1: they find a better marriage, until they find someone to

1033
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: take the ring off his feeling put it on her.

1034
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: Here's another translation. There is no more tedious output from

1035
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: a team, any team, towards any human being than the

1036
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 1: towards Tyrod Taylor. Going on year five at this point,

1037
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: it is the most exhausting storyline, and it is endless.

1038
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: It would be tiring, especially if they really do bring

1039
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: him back. And I think there's a chance that they do.

1040
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: That is that they don't wind up finding anything better

1041
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: and they're just like, all right, I think that's that's

1042
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: what this is about. This is about, like we think

1043
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: he's better than the case kingdoms of the world. So

1044
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 1: we already got him under contract, so we're we're willing

1045
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: to eat that six million if we can find somebody better.

1046
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor is the Marvin Lewis of quarterbacks. You think

1047
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: he's gone, but the Bengals can't find anybody better. The

1048
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: Bills can't find anybody better. They just keep hanging on. Greg.

1049
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: You you were all over the place as usual. I was.

1050
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: I found it very interesting how Steve Kim answered a

1051
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: question about about Honey Badger that the Cardinals general manager,

1052
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: and I wanted to ask him that, particularly because Matthew

1053
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: had a tweet yesterday which sounded like a subtweet or

1054
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, but just a vague

1055
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Speaker 1: thing where he said, it's a gamble and I'm taking

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00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: all bets. If I lose, I vow to make it

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Speaker 1: all back. He wrote that yesterday. I read that, and

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00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought he and his agents will not

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00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: renegotiate his contract because that's the belief of what could

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00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: happen in Arizona. He's doing nineteen million guaranteed if they

1061
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: picked up a bonus, and when when Kim was asked

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Speaker 1: about it today, he was very noncommittal about Matthew's future.

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00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: He called Buddha baker Uh a budding star, a future

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00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: star who plays a similar position to Matthew. And he

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00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 1: basically said, that's one of those guys that were evaluating.

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00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: Imagine two years them saying, oh, that's just a guy

1067
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: we're evaluating about Honey Badger. They gave him a five

1068
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: year contract after he tore his a c L and

1069
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: so he's in a different place right now. And I

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Speaker 1: asked West, where would you put him on the top

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00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: one O one, because I think I'm I'm thinking in

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Speaker 1: terms of Honey Badger's tweets after this news came out,

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00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: because he retweeted what I said and he just said

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00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: it's a business decision. Then he went on and on

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00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: and about it that I've been doubted my whole He

1076
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: quote retweeted Greg's tweet, right, he did that, and then

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00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: he kept going on about you know, I've been doubted

1078
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: my whole life. This is yeah, I'm used to this.

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00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: He's retwee Michael Thomas saying he should come to the Saints,

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00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: and I'm starting to think he's getting cut. Sounds like

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00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: he's mad and West says he's gonna put him at

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00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: number six and the one oh one. When that sounds

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00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: about right, I think it's a good bet he could

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00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 1: make a lot of money as a free agent. Yeah,

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00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: we're talking about a guy who was two years ago

1086
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: in the defensive Player of the Year conversation, and it

1087
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: took him a while, like it did the first time.

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00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: He tore his a c L to get back there.

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00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: But I thought in the last month of the season

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00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: he played at a really high level. I'd rather have

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00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: him than a guy like Sheldon Richardson. That's some real

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00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: sex appeal to the top one oh one. Get a

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00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: little honey badger in there. Yummy, yummy, hey um, Speaking

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00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: of sex appeal, I'm a big Matt Patricia fan. You

1095
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: know I've already named him. He's the number one coach

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00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: in the Bear community. I find him to be uh

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00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:47,479
Speaker 1: an excellent um uh looking man on some level because

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00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: he's so interesting. Now, do you consider yourself an honorary

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00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: member of the Bearer community community to bear qualities? Let's

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00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: move on. Um, Now here's the question. What are we

1101
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: talking about here? Alright, Matt Patricia. I really like the

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00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: way he came off in his press conference. He is

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00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: a dude. He's a regular dude. He's a perfect guy,

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00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: Patrick for Detroit, He's a perfect fit. Especially Jim calledwell,

1105
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, God bless Jim called well, did he land

1106
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: on his feet somewhere? I don't know, but he's filthy rich.

1107
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: There's nothing, there's nothing about Jim Caldwell to get the

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00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: fan base excited. And I'm not saying Matt Patricia is

1109
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: gonna like get you jumping up and down, but he

1110
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: is such, like clearly like a lunch pale guy. And

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00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: you would think that coming out of the Belichick regime

1112
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: and the shots you saw on the sideline where he

1113
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: would have that big, bushy beard in those crazy intense eyes,

1114
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: that he would be somebody from that machine and someone

1115
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: with no personality. But he just came off as a

1116
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: guy that you could talk to, that would be able

1117
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: to communicate with his players, Uh, that would have a

1118
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,959
Speaker 1: good relationship with the media. I'm not saying the Lions

1119
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: are gonna surge this year into the NFC like title game,

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00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: but I really think they got a guy that they

1121
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: could build around with you. I think the Lions in Patrick,

1122
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: you've suffered with Detroit for a long time. I've often

1123
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: found them to be one of the dullest teams, and

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00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: they have a new energy around them with Matt Patricia

1125
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: and in Chicago, you go from John Fox, who this

1126
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: podcast was not super high on, to say the least,

1127
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: to Matt Neeggie, who I think was also did a

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00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: good job today. It wasn't information rich, but he is

1129
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: another good personality. The NFC North has a whole different

1130
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: feel and it's a long time coming. Matt Patricia also

1131
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: and Patrick. Let me know what this bothers you? Um,

1132
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: I noticed like a logo on the breast of his

1133
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: T shirt and I was like, why does that ring

1134
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: a bell? And I was like, is that bon Jovial logo?

1135
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: So I typed bon Jovial logo into my phone and

1136
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: sure enough, he went to his presser with a bon

1137
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: Jovi T shirt. I wonder if Belchia gave it to him.

1138
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was just gonna say it doesn't

1139
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me because it seems like something that he

1140
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: probably got for free. Is like, sure, I'll wear this

1141
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: to the present. He went to and he went to

1142
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: the concert and had a good time to a little

1143
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: like living on a prayer. So you're a guy, you're

1144
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: all in. I'm all in. I think he's the kind

1145
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 1: of guy he's very smart and that comes across he's

1146
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: not as um. He doesn't keep as much to himself

1147
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: as I thought, and he's and when he does, he

1148
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: does it for moosely, like talks around it as whereas

1149
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: Bell Belichick is more gruff with it. Um. And he's,

1150
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: like Dan said, he's the kind of guy you could

1151
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: want to grab a beer with. Yeah, you know. And

1152
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: I feel like the pencil in the ear thing is

1153
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: a bit now and he's like he like, tell us,

1154
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: body watch this. I'll put his pencil in my ear

1155
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,959
Speaker 1: and they'll all it was remarkably sharpened to like, it's

1156
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: clear that he is making that a thing. And I

1157
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: appreciate there's thousands of fans in Detroit wearing pencils during

1158
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: is uh. Matt Patricia rank on your new Coaches charisma rankings,

1159
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: which I believe is. I think it's pretty clear, yes,

1160
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: pronoun good pronoun usage there or not using pronouns um,

1161
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: he is up there in in the charisma rankings. I'm

1162
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: gonna probably say Gruden even though he's an old new coach.

1163
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: Uh just own the room and he had the biggest

1164
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: crowd I can remember for coaches left Sherman Sherman and

1165
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: bring a lot of energy. I actually sat in on

1166
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: all the New Press New coaches conferences, and yes, I

1167
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: would say that Patricia's right there behind Gruden number two.

1168
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: How they came across one thing on Naggie just to

1169
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: wrap that one up. I think if Bears fans are

1170
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: looking for something, that's gonna make him a lot different

1171
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: than John Fox. He was asked not for his whole philosophy,

1172
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: but how he felt about Doug Peterson and going for

1173
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: fourth downs aggressively. He smiled really wide and said, I

1174
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: like it. I like it. I'm not jogging around. I've

1175
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: heard the word in like hallways at Shula's. I keep

1176
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,919
Speaker 1: on hearing analytics. Maybe it's in my head. I feel

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01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: like everyone's taught. Maybe it's like really going nuts. Now

1178
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: is this just in my head? Like analytics never been

1179
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 1: Because when I think of going for the fourth down,

1180
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: I think about the analytics say that that's what you do,

1181
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: and that's what the Eagles did. I think it's a thing.

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01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: I think. I think all of these coaches have an

1183
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: analytics guy in their headset for situational football, but no

1184
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: one has the stones or the onions of Doug Peterson.

1185
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: How are you? Rosemand was asked about Doug Peterson's balls

1186
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: today and he said they were tremendous balls. Excellent. We

1187
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: actually we were at a bar last night and there

1188
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: was an entire analytics meet up, just a bunch of

1189
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: analytics dudes with Cynthia Freeland, so like, maybe that's why,

1190
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: because they literally are everywhere now. We were also at

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01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: a bar and we met Dave Gettleman, and what a

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01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: wonderful guy. Honestly, he shot up my power. He already

1193
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: was high in the power rankings. But he's like, oh,

1194
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: your dad's a Giants fan like you. Sounded kind of

1195
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: like cut from the Keith Hands household a little bit. Oh.

1196
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: I could totally see that we were leaving a bar

1197
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: right at closing time. Ka Tam Posty was there as well,

1198
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: Sean Sullivan and um. As we're walking out, I turned around.

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Speaker 1: Is this this happens? Sometimes you lose Mark? He doesn't

1200
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 1: immediately come out in terms up. Mark makes a bee

1201
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: line and I look back and I see him stick

1202
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: his hand out and say to Dave, Dave Gentleman, just

1203
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: want to shake the head of one of the greatest

1204
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: gems of all time. Well he I told him, because

1205
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't done. But just quite an honor for the

1206
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: man that's never I wouldn't be here if my dad

1207
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: was not a huge Giants fan and a football fan

1208
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: growing up. And I just liked that he was brought

1209
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: honor back to that team. One of the greats of

1210
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: all time. I think he I think he is one

1211
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: of the reason and one of the great personnel men,

1212
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: and he will continue to show reason like I brought

1213
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: to Lombardi trophies. What honor did I take from the season?

1214
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: Maybe Gettleman was the force behind Jerry Reeves. He was

1215
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: working under him at the time. Um possible. All right,

1216
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: we we got to move on. Um. But I say

1217
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: one quick, quick excuse me? Combine set up people like

1218
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: whatever you planned to serve for lunch today was an outrage.

1219
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: It was some of the shakiest sandwiches. I couldn't even

1220
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: eat them because it's like filled with what was in

1221
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: what was in the meat. Well, you're all not feeling

1222
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: well for like two hours after, So don't shake your head. Greg,

1223
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: all Right, before we go. Before we go, First of all,

1224
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: some breaking news. I don't want to be on your

1225
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: corner here we This is a note from Mark Brady,

1226
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: one of the leading shadowy lead figures in the business.

1227
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: We Around the NFL podcast are on Spotify. A deal

1228
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: was reached this week. Wow, things getting done at the Combine. Now.

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01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: It just occouraged to me that all the people that

1230
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: are complaining on Twitter, how come we're not on Spotify.

1231
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: We don't listen to the show anymore. They're not getting

1232
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: this announcement. But we will also send it out via

1233
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: social media. We are now on Spotify, effective immediately, Mark

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01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: effective immediately. So there you go, another outlet for the program. Man,

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01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: things are looking good. I mean, I don't think it's

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01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: as big news as the Brown's Wide Receiver news. I

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01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: broke what Larry Pinkerton. Um, okay, we will be back

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01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: tomorrow Thursday. There are more press conferences. Uh, maybe we'll

1239
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: do some combine talk. We'll figure it out. But thank

1240
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,919
Speaker 1: you for listening. Yes, subscribe on Spotify if you wish.

1241
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: I don't know how it works, but every do it

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01:03:55,760 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: our ap Apple podcast or Google something or other whatever

1243
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: was it Google Play And of course leave five stars,

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01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: leave comments. We we appreciate it all. Thank you, Kevin Patrick.

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01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: Is somebody out there using Google play Let's get Let's

1246
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: get out of here? Does Dan hands as signing off

1247
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: for Kevin Patrick, Coming at you. Rap Sheet, the Old Boss,

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Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Sissler, the best yeam of all time

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Speaker 1: Tell Thursday,