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Speaker 1: on Apple podcasts. On this Red Table talk, Willow, what
Speaker 1: was your most recent heartbreak? How to mend a broken heart?
Speaker 1: Bate down, I still love it. If my heart is
Speaker 1: in pace. Our personal counselor and renowned relationship expert MICHAELA. Bone,
Speaker 1: and she has worked with will and I for many, many,
Speaker 1: many years, is here to help us cope with betrayal.
Speaker 1: I caught him entertaining several other men on social media rejection.
Speaker 1: He told me that he no longer has romantic feelings
Speaker 1: for me. Payne the passing of my mother in law.
Speaker 1: It was very painful tragedy. Called home and I got
Speaker 1: a live report of the house burning down, which was devastating.
Speaker 1: In shadowed dreams, I get a call he was seeing
Speaker 1: another woman for nine months. I don't know how to
Speaker 1: go on from here. The number one topic you asked
Speaker 1: us to bring to the Red Table was how to
Speaker 1: deal with a broken heart. We have a very wise
Speaker 1: woman who is joining us to share wisdom and advice.
Speaker 1: She is an author, teacher, counselor, and a wonderful friend
Speaker 1: of the Smith family. Her name is MICHAELA. Bone and
Speaker 1: she has worked with Will and I for many, many
Speaker 1: many years. Welcome, We love having your year. I get
Speaker 1: to actually touch the red table. Yes, I mean this
Speaker 1: has been a year. We have so many people that
Speaker 1: are dealing with so many different kinds of heartbreak. People
Speaker 1: are losing their homes, losing their jobs, losing their relationships.
Speaker 1: It's just it can be really overwhelming. It is heartbreaking.
Speaker 1: It's intense. MICHAELA. I know you had a really your heartbreak.
Speaker 1: I mean I remember that devastation. I lost my house,
Speaker 1: well my entire property in the Thomas fire. I wasn't home.
Speaker 1: I saw something on Facebook and I called home and
Speaker 1: I got a live report of the house burning down,
Speaker 1: which was devastating. But the real heartbreak is that I
Speaker 1: lost some of my dogs and a lot of my livestock,
Speaker 1: a lot of my ducks and chickens and tortoises and
Speaker 1: turtles and cats. But the dogs were you know that
Speaker 1: my children. Yeah, And so there was devastation after devastation
Speaker 1: after devastation. It's certainly taught me about kind of the
Speaker 1: the heartbreak and the suffering that I was not aware of.
Speaker 1: It's something when your entire existence is boiled down to
Speaker 1: this much dust. Because you are brilliant at what you do.
Speaker 1: You know, just as far as helping other people give
Speaker 1: you very difficult times, what do you think was some
Speaker 1: of the new wisdom that you acquired going through this
Speaker 1: experience in regards to dealing with heartbreak and loss. I
Speaker 1: think the most important thing is I really understood viscerally
Speaker 1: in my body. But there is kind of stages to
Speaker 1: the grieving that you can't can't bypass. You have to
Speaker 1: accept that it sucks and not try to immediately whitewash
Speaker 1: and go what am I learning? So that's a bypass,
Speaker 1: it's a bypass. What I realized is that when people
Speaker 1: were dealing with me, they couldn't deal with the intensity
Speaker 1: of the pain, so they skipped over the pain. Somebody
Speaker 1: said to me four days after the fire, well, I
Speaker 1: guess now you've got a good lesson in non attachment.
Speaker 1: That must be amazing, right. So stuff like that I know,
Speaker 1: and so I really learned for my work as well.
Speaker 1: The acknowledgement of the horror and mind you, one person's
Speaker 1: horror might not be another person's horror, right, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It's really really subjective and the pain is
Speaker 1: the pain is the pain, and so I think what
Speaker 1: was my biggest learning is that you have to acknowledge it.
Speaker 1: You can't skip over it. And when you do that,
Speaker 1: it gives you permission to grieve, and then the grieving
Speaker 1: allows you to stay functional. What I did every morning
Speaker 1: before I even got up, I'd cry, and you know,
Speaker 1: crying is really really really healthy, and grow to move
Speaker 1: through it and then the tears wash out things. I
Speaker 1: have a question for you game, what has been your
Speaker 1: biggest heartbreak? I think this year it has really been
Speaker 1: the passing of my mother in law right right, you know,
Speaker 1: because yeah, to COVID it was very painful. It was
Speaker 1: very very painful. And then not being able to gather
Speaker 1: to celebrate her life the way we ordinarily would that's
Speaker 1: very very tough. Have you had some romantic heartbreak in
Speaker 1: your life. I have had a lot of romantic heartbreak,
Speaker 1: and this one particular failure in one of my marriages
Speaker 1: that I really built up in my head that this
Speaker 1: was my one true love and I'll never I'll never
Speaker 1: love like this again. Yeah, it wasn't a divorce that
Speaker 1: I wanted. But at the end of the day, when
Speaker 1: you really really look at the relationship, honestly, you go
Speaker 1: like this one going nowhere but tore right, We really
Speaker 1: feel like you have to kind of take some time
Speaker 1: and be honest with yourself. Yeah, Willow, what was your
Speaker 1: most recent heartbreak? You know, I've had some personal decisions
Speaker 1: that I needed to make this year that were really hard.
Speaker 1: I had to just learn how to set some boundaries
Speaker 1: in my romantic relationship slash hips, and I'm so grateful
Speaker 1: that my partner was just open to what I had
Speaker 1: to say. And when you truly love someone, no matter what,
Speaker 1: you're gonna want what's best for them. I felt like
Speaker 1: I was almost making the situation bigger than it needed
Speaker 1: to be. And you guys really did a good job
Speaker 1: working it out together. MICHAELA helped lot. Wasn't really as
Speaker 1: tough as you said. I was building it up to
Speaker 1: me and had such courage about it, and you were
Speaker 1: so clear that you wanted the best for both of you,
Speaker 1: and that's really quite extraordinary. Commendable baby steps. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was actually saying to Jada, I had daughter envy for
Speaker 1: the first time in my life. I was the first
Speaker 1: time in my adult life. I was like, I had
Speaker 1: a daughter. I had a daughter, Like you can consider
Speaker 1: me your daughter. You You've helped me a lot, She's
Speaker 1: helped us all a lot. Thank god you. Michaela. What
Speaker 1: about your mom? And let say, everybody's telling the story,
Speaker 1: what about yours? You know? I mean, I've had plenty
Speaker 1: of heartbreak in my life, devastating heartbreak. But what I'm
Speaker 1: still trying to learn is allowing for that, that tenderness
Speaker 1: versus going versus going into fight mode. I go and
Speaker 1: I go with MICHAELA knows I go straight into fight.
Speaker 1: And I think that has a lot to do with
Speaker 1: the fear of being hurt. Yeah, you don't want to
Speaker 1: feel rejected, You don't want to feel unloved, right, being
Speaker 1: programmed and believe in girl, don't let those tears come.
Speaker 1: Don't let those tears come, because you will fall apart
Speaker 1: and you might not be able to put yourself back
Speaker 1: together again. But it takes a lot of just trusting yourself,
Speaker 1: you know, And a lot of times we don't have
Speaker 1: enough um self worth. Yes, we have some guests that
Speaker 1: are coming to our t t to speak to MICHAELA
Speaker 1: first is Sarah from Denver, Colorado. Hey, Sarah, welcome, Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. Just over a year ago, I met a
Speaker 1: guy who I connected with so quickly and so deeply
Speaker 1: that I actually really felt like he was the guy
Speaker 1: for me, he was the one. And then he actually
Speaker 1: recently told me that he no longer has romantic feelings
Speaker 1: for me. And I'm really struggling with it, and I'm
Speaker 1: very much at the point in my life where I
Speaker 1: no longer want to pursue dating or pussy love. And
Speaker 1: I apologize if I start to get emotional. I thought
Speaker 1: I did everything correctly. I'm becoming very fatigued on trying
Speaker 1: to brush it off and try again. You are absolutely
Speaker 1: right to feel like you don't want to do it anymore,
Speaker 1: because that's what happens first. You're so beaten down and
Speaker 1: it's so devastating you can't imagine doing it ever again.
Speaker 1: And of course you will do it again, and you
Speaker 1: will have learned something from it and you will be
Speaker 1: stronger for it. I guess I'm just in a space
Speaker 1: where I'm almost thirty five. I've been trying this for
Speaker 1: a while, but I am kind of repeatedly broken up
Speaker 1: with so I kind of keep coming back to, like,
Speaker 1: what am I doing wrong that has kept me in
Speaker 1: the space for a decade. Now, you know, what would
Speaker 1: your guests be if I would say to you, what
Speaker 1: do you think you are doing? That makes it? So?
Speaker 1: I know that I do pick people who may not
Speaker 1: be as emotionally mature as I need them to be.
Speaker 1: My other concern has been that I am just too accessible.
Speaker 1: If my ex would have called me at anytime he
Speaker 1: was ready to get back with me, I would have
Speaker 1: say yes. So in the pattern of the guys leaving
Speaker 1: right or what do they say? They say, You're incredible,
Speaker 1: but pretty much just always I'm not ready for a commitment.
Speaker 1: And when you meet a guy, are you very clear
Speaker 1: on the fact that you want a deep commitment right
Speaker 1: from the get go. I think that in the past
Speaker 1: I have tried to um camouflage a little bit or
Speaker 1: like adapt like a cha million to kind of figure
Speaker 1: out what they wanted. I think what you're describing is
Speaker 1: so built into many of us. We tend to really
Speaker 1: feel what other people need and then more for ourselves
Speaker 1: in ways, so we get love right. But it's the
Speaker 1: very thing that will make a relationship not work because
Speaker 1: who you say you are and who you really are
Speaker 1: is not the same, and that eventually bites you in
Speaker 1: the relationship. So are you saying she's not being true
Speaker 1: to who she really is. She's more to the other person,
Speaker 1: to herself. You didn't want to push him. You start
Speaker 1: putting yourself further and further back, and then who you
Speaker 1: are doesn't really come to play, and it becomes more
Speaker 1: and more about him, And then of course he goes, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling it right because what he isn't feeling
Speaker 1: is who he thought you were in the first place,
Speaker 1: who you no longer are because you've accommodated, you've warphed
Speaker 1: for the sake of the relationship. This is important, McKay's
Speaker 1: very important because we as women, my god, do we
Speaker 1: do this so often where we think, Okay, if I
Speaker 1: just let him flow how he needs to flow, and
Speaker 1: if I just make myself available in a way that
Speaker 1: he needs, he'll love me. He'll appreciate ate the fact.
Speaker 1: But what, yes, I'm being supportive. She's not. The quick
Speaker 1: and dirty answer to what you're saying is who you
Speaker 1: are at some point, how has to be good enough.
Speaker 1: Now you just got to hold steady. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been married, you know, four times, and
Speaker 1: I just never gave up. I just took what I
Speaker 1: learned from that relationship and tried to carry it into
Speaker 1: the next one in a positive way. Nothing's wasted, nothing's wasted.
Speaker 1: I appreciate everything that you're saying. Thank you, Sarah so
Speaker 1: much for a share. You are precious and I just
Speaker 1: want you to know keep going. Every relationship gives us
Speaker 1: a gem that we can use in our next step,
Speaker 1: for that next door that's inevitably gonna open. You are
Speaker 1: a beautiful woman girl. Thank you first, Yes, thank you
Speaker 1: so much, Sarah. That was beautiful. Every time I always
Speaker 1: sit here and I go, how's she gonna handle this one?
Speaker 1: So Trina is next? Hey? Ja in your family so much? Well,
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm from North Carolina. I was married for
Speaker 1: thirty nine years to a man that I was with
Speaker 1: and will get emotional, that's okay. I've been with him
Speaker 1: since I was fourteen, so he was my only love. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we just a year ago had plans of our
Speaker 1: retirement traveling the world, and he just all of a
Speaker 1: sudden wanted to separate. About three months ago, and then
Speaker 1: I get a call from an anonymous person he was
Speaker 1: seeing another woman for nine months. I'm fifty seven years old.
Speaker 1: How do you get past this kind of hurt and
Speaker 1: actually move on from because in down, truly I still
Speaker 1: love it and my heart is in peace. Yeah, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: don't I don't know how to go on from here.
Speaker 1: Thank God I have a wonderful daughter, but it's still hard.
Speaker 1: This is one of those moments where I wish I
Speaker 1: had a magic wand right where you could just waive
Speaker 1: the magic wand and the pain is lifted. So you
Speaker 1: grew up with this man, right, you became a woman
Speaker 1: and the mother and and who you are today. The
Speaker 1: entire life is connected with this man. Then it's suddenly
Speaker 1: pulled out. That's about as devastating as it gets. It
Speaker 1: feels like a death. What you're experiencing right now is
Speaker 1: is multiple layers of grief and loss. In the first
Speaker 1: stage is absolute devastation, and no one will blame you
Speaker 1: if you want to just lay down. Then the next
Speaker 1: thing that usually happens is you get angry. And when
Speaker 1: you start getting angry, you have to listen to me carefully.
Speaker 1: You must get angry now you don't want to directed
Speaker 1: it anyone. That's very important, right, Meaning you don't go
Speaker 1: to his house and drag him out of the house,
Speaker 1: even though that's a good fantasy. To write it all down,
Speaker 1: or you record it and you curse him, and you
Speaker 1: do that so that that's out of you, because that's
Speaker 1: the thing that starts festering. You go and find help
Speaker 1: with friends, church, family, so you can speak about it,
Speaker 1: and you can allow yourself to be a bit bitter
Speaker 1: about it and and nasty. You have to write the
Speaker 1: worst of your revenge fantasies and the worst of your
Speaker 1: ill wishes so you can move on from them. That's
Speaker 1: super are, super important. But the more you go there,
Speaker 1: the quicker it will pass. Then comes another wave of grief,
Speaker 1: the grief of your entire life having disappeared in a
Speaker 1: certain way. But then who are you when all of
Speaker 1: this is taken away? And one thing I can tell
Speaker 1: you just bym looking at you, there's such strength in
Speaker 1: you and such power and resilience that's going to come
Speaker 1: to the surface, and then you're going to become somebody
Speaker 1: who is free off off that thing that held you
Speaker 1: in a certain kind of a situation. Because even though
Speaker 1: you love him and even though you've devoted a long
Speaker 1: time to that marriage, there's parts of you that are
Speaker 1: really waiting to come out. And I know I can
Speaker 1: see it in your face. All that energy that was
Speaker 1: suppressed by the pain is going to come out, and
Speaker 1: Trina is going to be a force to be regulous.
Speaker 1: It's a process. I think a lot of us believe
Speaker 1: that if we go into the feeling of the pain,
Speaker 1: that will get stuck. I know that's always been something
Speaker 1: for me. You know, it's like, don't go there, because
Speaker 1: you might just get the pain might just crab you
Speaker 1: and keep you right. And so the idea of being
Speaker 1: able to understand that it's okay to to go into
Speaker 1: it in the with the concept of moving through it
Speaker 1: and you really do have to let it out. We've
Speaker 1: all been there in some form or fashion, and we
Speaker 1: just want you to know that our hearts are with you.
Speaker 1: And thank you so much for your testimony today. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much. That's a devastating when
Speaker 1: you feel like everything in your world is it's yeah,
Speaker 1: there's something I don't want to ignore either. Too. For women, Um,
Speaker 1: when you get to that age, you know and you
Speaker 1: go through a major break up like that, and when
Speaker 1: particularly with a person that you've been through, but that
Speaker 1: you go through like um fifty seven, like who's gonna
Speaker 1: want me now? And that's a reality. However, this is
Speaker 1: just a tiny little side note. My first neighbor when
Speaker 1: I moved to l A from Austria was a woman
Speaker 1: who was in her late eighties and she was a
Speaker 1: concentration camp survivor Leo. Her name was and Leah. Every
Speaker 1: Tuesday went to the Fairfax Jewish Community Center for square
Speaker 1: dance and she found a boyfriend. Wow. And so on
Speaker 1: her nineties birthday, Saul, her new boyfriend, moved into the house.
Speaker 1: And here's how I knew Saul moved into the house.
Speaker 1: The truck pulled up, out came the two single bits,
Speaker 1: in came a big new brass double and Saul moved in.
Speaker 1: And then they walked hand in hand every day. That's
Speaker 1: a beautiful story for anybody. If he thinks that you
Speaker 1: know it's over, that you'll never find on her nineties
Speaker 1: fight away, the guy she moved in was at least
Speaker 1: twelve years younger than her. I mean she was in
Speaker 1: his highest seventies. So we have Eddie from l A
Speaker 1: hi Eddie Hi So seven and I'm a PhD student
Speaker 1: at usc UM. I recently got out of a fourteen
Speaker 1: month relationship with a man I thought i'd marry. Towards
Speaker 1: the end of our relationship, I caught him entertaining several
Speaker 1: other men on social media. I felt so betrayed. I
Speaker 1: found on his Instagram that he was inviting other men
Speaker 1: to dates. And you know, there's so much, there was
Speaker 1: so much betrayal there that that at the very end
Speaker 1: warped my idea of who he was. I reached out
Speaker 1: to him RecA me and I never heard back. But
Speaker 1: it's been really difficult for me. So I've left to
Speaker 1: reconcile this person who I thought I knew for over
Speaker 1: a year, and I sort of don't know what what
Speaker 1: the reality is right now, and I don't know how
Speaker 1: to get over this. The real tough thing about this
Speaker 1: is that when you can say it, it just sits
Speaker 1: in your head. And it's so important to have the
Speaker 1: communication that you want to have. However, you don't need
Speaker 1: to have the conversation or the communication with him, and
Speaker 1: so one of my personal UH tricks for myself, you
Speaker 1: write letters and don't write sentences and stuff just like words.
Speaker 1: This is a very specific process. I'm want to walk
Speaker 1: you through this. The first letter you write is a nasty,
Speaker 1: vicious say everything you never would say to a real person. Letter.
Speaker 1: Got it? You write it, you put it somewhere, and
Speaker 1: you just right, and you write, and you write, and
Speaker 1: you might write the same letter for three or four
Speaker 1: five days if you can hand right hand right. There's
Speaker 1: something about writing by hand that doesn't happen here or
Speaker 1: on your phone. Right the important pieces that you don't
Speaker 1: rush it. So you write the letters till you feel
Speaker 1: ready to be done. Make sure that you really, really
Speaker 1: really address how it felt, and tell him on the
Speaker 1: letter what a really thing. However many it takes, till
Speaker 1: you're somewhat clear, you'll write a letter that you could
Speaker 1: give him. Then what you do is you do a ritual,
Speaker 1: something that puts a full stop, make a strong end
Speaker 1: to it, take something of his and buried or burn it.
Speaker 1: Do something where you for yourself go okay, I am done.
Speaker 1: One thing I want to ask to MICHAELA because I
Speaker 1: know in these kinds of situations, when you have that
Speaker 1: kind of betrayal, you lose such a trust in yourself totally.
Speaker 1: You know, how could I How could I have misjudged
Speaker 1: so greatly? You know what I mean? How do you
Speaker 1: regain that trust in yourself to believe that the next
Speaker 1: time you won't do that to yourself again. Well, here's
Speaker 1: a horrible truth. We don't misjudge, right, So he Eddie
Speaker 1: Eddie knew, but we don't want to see it because
Speaker 1: we love and our heart wants wants that thing, and
Speaker 1: we want that relationship, and he wanted that marriage. We know,
Speaker 1: we always know, so, So the learning isn't to become
Speaker 1: better at distinguishing it. Necessarily, learning is to listen to
Speaker 1: ourselves and not let our need for a certain fairy
Speaker 1: tale override what we know is true. You can look
Speaker 1: at how do you read the red flags better next time? Right?
Speaker 1: And you can feel it, and you can think back
Speaker 1: on when something felt fishy and you kind of we're
Speaker 1: overwriting it for the fact that this was going to
Speaker 1: be your life partner and you were going to marry.
Speaker 1: Then the other thing that happens is every time we
Speaker 1: get a bit better at not overwriting our own feelings
Speaker 1: around that, the people we attract get better because they
Speaker 1: can pull the rule over our honey Honestly, let's just
Speaker 1: be real. You have such a light, you have such
Speaker 1: a deep well of compassion within you, and so many
Speaker 1: people are going to see that and they're gonna want that. Well.
Speaker 1: I've been a huge fan of yours forever. So if
Speaker 1: I hear you, know, will, I'll say that I'm going
Speaker 1: to find love again, like I'm more prone to believe it.
Speaker 1: You're a beauty, Eddie. Just know that it's all about
Speaker 1: learning as we go. That's it. That's thank you so much,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Eddie, Thank you Eddie. This pandemic that we've
Speaker 1: been dealing with, I mean globally, we've all been affected.
Speaker 1: I feel like not one person has been able to escape.
Speaker 1: A lot of expectations have been shattered. Yeah, So we
Speaker 1: have Key Jana and David from Inglewood who have questions
Speaker 1: from MICHAELA. Hey, look at you right here, welcome to
Speaker 1: the table. Thank you for having us. So what questions
Speaker 1: do you have for MICHAELA Today. I met David a
Speaker 1: few years ago and we had the pleasure of being
Speaker 1: able to plan our wedding. We invited all the people
Speaker 1: from all across the country. People were gonna travel and
Speaker 1: on my bachelor at Party two days before, we got
Speaker 1: the call that the coronavirus shut down our entire event.
Speaker 1: It was like a kind of like a tidal wave
Speaker 1: had hit us. With only forty eight hours left, we
Speaker 1: had to cancel all the vendors. The venue canceled on us.
Speaker 1: We had to call everyone that was going to try
Speaker 1: to travel. We had paid for everything we had gotten,
Speaker 1: you know, Flowers. We did have a little bit of
Speaker 1: hope and we thought we could reschedule and not really
Speaker 1: knowing where the coronavirus was going to be. But here
Speaker 1: we are again looking to cancel yet again. We're just
Speaker 1: a little emotionally drained and kind of don't know really
Speaker 1: where to go from here. It was a heartbreaking kind
Speaker 1: of ordeal. Yeah, that's a rough one. Yeah, here's something
Speaker 1: I can tell you that maybe it's a bit of hope.
Speaker 1: I've done like about thirty five thousand client hours in
Speaker 1: my lifetime, so I've seen a lot of people, and
Speaker 1: I can tell you one thing. Couples who face adversity
Speaker 1: together have the best chance of long term relationship. And
Speaker 1: the way you're sitting there, the way she's leaning against you, David,
Speaker 1: you clearly have grown something in the adversity in in
Speaker 1: and in the joined loss. Often, you know, the big
Speaker 1: wedding take on a life of its own, and the
Speaker 1: real love and the real care get a little bit lost.
Speaker 1: It's so beautiful because you kind of get to do
Speaker 1: it the other way of our You get too deepen
Speaker 1: and sink in and make the commitment now between the
Speaker 1: two of you in lockdown with each other, and you
Speaker 1: get to really celebrate your union for what it is,
Speaker 1: which is the two of you on the sofa. And
Speaker 1: then when the time is right, you're gonna have the
Speaker 1: big wedding, and I can promise you it's gonna be
Speaker 1: much deeper because you come to it as a more
Speaker 1: mature couple. And it's not just gonna be the fairy tale,
Speaker 1: which is wonderful, but it's a fairy tale. It's going
Speaker 1: to have the underpinning of your love for each other
Speaker 1: and the fact that you made it through the adversity.
Speaker 1: You didn't throw in the towel and break up and
Speaker 1: run off and do horrible things. You're sitting there together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's real, It really is. Remember the amazing race when
Speaker 1: they would have couples that would have to go through
Speaker 1: this amazing race together, And I go if you want
Speaker 1: to get married, amazing, and then if you make it
Speaker 1: across that finish line together, now, put on the wedding dress,
Speaker 1: the celebration. And that's what this reminds me of. You've
Speaker 1: seen the worst of each other, so to speak, right,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure there were tears and tantrums and everything.
Speaker 1: So you've seen the worst. Now you can have the best. Yes,
Speaker 1: I tell you. See the two of you, you guys
Speaker 1: just emanate such joy love for each other, so you
Speaker 1: know what. That's what marriage is all about. In my eyes,
Speaker 1: you all already married, okay, and this too shall pass, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it really will. Yeah, one day this will be over
Speaker 1: and you will be able to get back to planning
Speaker 1: your wedding. I can't wait to hear what the vowels
Speaker 1: will be like on the actual wedding. Yes, and you
Speaker 1: will be very different vowels than what you had planned off.
Speaker 1: That's true. And y'all know Gamey loves a wedding. She's
Speaker 1: been married four times. You got to dress yet, so
Speaker 1: I did, But after the pandemic, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fit back into it. All right, you guys,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us today. We all
Speaker 1: wishing than Yes, MICHAELA. You always come with the gym
Speaker 1: every time, every single time. Just why I'm surprised because
Speaker 1: every time, Why am I surprised? Every single time? It's like,
Speaker 1: we so love having you here, and this was this
Speaker 1: was great. I learned a lot so as always when
Speaker 1: I get to sit in front of you, thank you.
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