1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's Josh and for this week's select I've 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: chosen our twenty fifteen episode, Nostrodamus, Predictor of the Future. 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Not so much Nostrodamus if that even is his real name, 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: which it isn't, must have rued the day he was born. 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: After you heard this episode, we disassemble his so called 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: prophetic abilities so hard. Plus, this has one more Adam 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: Sandler than you'd probably expected. So sit back, light a candle, 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: let your eyes roll back in your head, and enjoy 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: this skeptical episode a skep epp. Welcome to Stuff you 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio. Hey, and welcome to 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles w Chuck Bryant, 12 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: there's Jerry. I predict this will be the best podcast 13 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: of the new year. Man, I don't know about that one. 14 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: And I think that predict is coming true. And the 15 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: first month when Gray filled the Sky, the recorders of 16 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: Gobbledegook hit a high water mark. It's a little on 17 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: the nose from Nostre Damas. Actually it's I should have 18 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: been even more vague, like way vaguer. Yeah that was 19 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: like explicit for him. Yeah, yeah, because no, Stredamus used 20 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: to like to just basically take concepts and words and 21 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: put them together and pretend like they were going to happen. Yeah, no, 22 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: stre Damas snort a little nutmeg. I Um. When I 23 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: was a younger person, I realized, like from this and 24 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: ESP that I was into some pretty cool occult stuff. Yeah, 25 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: read lots of books about ghosts and things like that. Sure, 26 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: meet to you a little bit. And then now I 27 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: was like an older person, like I wanted to go 28 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: to Duke University to study parapsychology. Oh really, I was 29 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: into like that kind of thing. And then now as 30 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: an older person, I'm like, man of the things I 31 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: used to believe, just do a face palm here there, Like, 32 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: for example, we got into real science and that's usually 33 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: what happens. Yes, so the pseudoscience has kind of fade 34 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: away once you start educating yourself. Well, we shouldn't say 35 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: parapsychology is necessarily a pseudoscience. That's not We're here to 36 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: poo pooh Nostradamus, not esp parasychology in general, but for instance, 37 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: you were I remember not only believing, but frequently saying, dude, Nostradamus, 38 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: he had to be exhumed once, like at the church 39 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: he was buried at. They were like expanding and they 40 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: had to exoome his grave and they opened his casket 41 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: and he was holding a tablet that had the day 42 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: they exhumed him. I thought that was real. I thought 43 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: that really happened when I was a slightly younger man. 44 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, when you were in your late twenties, right, Yeah, 45 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: I remember. I didn't read up on stuff like this, 46 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: but I was a big fan of like Lennar Nimoys 47 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: in Search of and yeah, TV shows that kind of 48 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: dabbled in the fringe, And what's wrong with that. Nothing, 49 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with enjoying that kind of thing, liking it. 50 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: Ve been wondering if possibly some of it could be real. 51 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with exploration, right, But the key to keeping 52 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: egg off your face as much as possible is to 53 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: doing research, especially when a claim is very extraordinary. Yeah, 54 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: really look into it. Yeah, Like had I had I 55 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: looked around, had the Internet been invented yet? And I 56 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: looked around, and I probably would have found somewhere some 57 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: entry saying like that is absolutely not true. Well, that's 58 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: one of the Internet is one of the big reasons, 59 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: I think because before that was around, you know, it's 60 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: you'd have to go search out a book that was 61 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: written profuing Ostradamis, Yeah, in the card catalog, and it 62 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: was just a lot harder back then, you know. Yeah, 63 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: But the Internet is a double edged fiber optic line. 64 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot out of sites out there 65 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: that I mean, No Stradamas has gotten probably even more 66 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: popular and even more play since the Internet was invented. 67 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: Oh sure, you know. Yeah, So let's talk about this guy. 68 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: Let's try to separate the man from the myth and 69 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: really get into who no Stredamis was. Because he was 70 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: a lot more than a crackpot writer of vague predictions. 71 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: That's true, he was. One of the tough parts is, though, 72 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: is that there are so many disagreements about his biography. 73 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: Even yeah, I didn't find that necessarily. Yeah, I saw 74 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: one guy wrote a book at him that said he 75 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: wasn't even a doctor. Woh, okay, that is a disagreement. Yeah, 76 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: well let's go ahead and go there then. Okay, So 77 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,559 Speaker 1: he was supposedly born in fifteen oh three, No, not true. 78 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: In France, he was born Michel de Nostre, Dame he 79 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: became no Stredamis because he latinized his name after he 80 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: graduated from medical school, which apparently was custom at the time. 81 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: That's right. But when he was born he was Michelle 82 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: de Nostre Dame. Yeah. And his family was educated and 83 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,799 Speaker 1: they believed in education. So he was from an early 84 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: age an academic in a traditional sense, right, nothing wacky 85 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: right out of the gate. Well, his grandfather instructed him 86 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: as when he was a younger man, taught him languages 87 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: and kind of sparked his interest in all sorts of 88 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: different topics and all things learning. Yeah. And do you 89 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: remember when we did the Inquisition episode, yeah, where there 90 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: are a lot of Jewish people who converted but just 91 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: converted in name only. Yeah. Yeah, apparently Nostradamis's family was 92 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: one of those. Oh so that wasn't a genuine conversion 93 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: supposedly not gotcha again, it could be myth, it could 94 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: be whatever. Because he was on good terms with the 95 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: local Inquisition and the local church officials for most of 96 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: his life. So I guess either they didn't suspect him, 97 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: or they he had a pass. I don't know. Oh, 98 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: it's interesting, that makes sense. He studied a straw no, 99 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Astrology, which was at the time respected well 100 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: respected as a science. Yeah, and supposedly his fellow astrologers 101 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: thought he was full of it. Oh really, his contemporary 102 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: astrologer pals Well, one of the things that he did 103 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: was he studied and this would play out throughout his well, 104 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: I would say his career as a predictor, but he 105 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: really just wrote the book, the Centuries book, which we'll 106 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: get to. But he studied astronomical patterns that coincided with 107 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: historical events. That's astrology. Well yeah, but he would basically 108 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: use those to predict the future events. Like by some accounts, 109 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: he didn't even say that he was a prophet. He said, 110 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: I study history and basically history repeats itself, and so 111 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to use the stars and when these things 112 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: line up pattern wise in the certain year in the future, 113 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: this may happen again. Yeah, so that's like real astrology. Yeah, 114 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: we should do an episode on that. Yeah, I've been 115 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: thinking about that one for a while. This one, well, 116 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: the the article we have like almost like spits in 117 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: the middle. Yeah, it's so one sided in skeptical it's 118 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: just a picture of a big lugue, right, But I 119 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: looked into Um I looked into it and like, there's 120 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: the it's fascinating what they used to believe in all 121 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: of the holes you can punch in it, you know, 122 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: but um, it's a pretty we should do that for 123 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: some time. Yeah. I had my chart done one time, 124 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: like for real by my friend's mom, and I remember 125 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: looking at it and thinking like, wow, that's a lot 126 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: like me. Yeah, it's pretty accurate. But and even even 127 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: remove that last part, Yeah, the amount of thought and 128 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 1: effort in what it's based on, in the ancient tradition 129 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: of it and everything that in and of itself is fascinating. Yeah, 130 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: totally agree, you know, And then you can get in there. 131 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: We're totally doing astrology at some point, all right, But 132 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: um so what he was doing was astrology. Apparently where 133 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: he ran a foul of his fellow astrologers was to 134 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: make predictions of how something would come about. Rather than 135 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: the next time Venus is in the seventh House of 136 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: Mars and a cat catches fire, there's going to be 137 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: an earthquake, sure, something like that, he went further and 138 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: like made predictions about you know, what was going to 139 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: set this off, and like where the people involved were 140 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: going to come from and like, and then he was 141 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: very very vague, right, So all of that added to 142 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: the astrologers disdained for him because he gave him a 143 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: bad name pretty much because they were all right exactly. 144 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: So he left home supposedly in fifteen twenty two to 145 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: study medicine legit medicine and became a physician. Most people 146 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: agree that he became a professor in a physician in 147 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: southern France. And apparently it was pretty good to doctor 148 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: or at treating plague victims. Yeah, he's very ahead of 149 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: his time. Yeah, even though he lost his wife and son, 150 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry his children to the plague and yeah, and 151 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: that had a big effect on his life. Obviously, he 152 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: basically sent him on the road for a decade, which 153 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: is where he kind of came up with this plan 154 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: to write this book. So he was he was a 155 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: progressive doctor in that like he prescribed sanitation practices yea, 156 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: he prescribed fresh air. He also apparently came up with 157 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: a rose hip loznge to help cure plague mild cases 158 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: of plague, and that actually makes sense because rose hips 159 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: are packed with vitamin C. Yeah, so he was a 160 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: pretty good doctor and he had a good record, and 161 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: from that he lived in this village with his wife 162 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: and children and had a patron who basically supported the family. 163 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: And then once his wife and children died, he couldn't 164 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: cure them. His star really he fell in this village. 165 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: And about the same time, he also had a pretty 166 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: good sense of humor. About the same time, they were 167 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: raising a statue of the Virgin Mary in the local church, 168 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: and he thought it was the ugliest thing he'd ever seen, 169 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: and he was making a comment on the artist's abilities. Yeah, 170 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: not the Virgin Mary, but he said, these guys are 171 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: casting demons, like basically saying, that's a really ugly Virgin Mary. Right. Well, 172 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: the artist didn't like this and turn him into the inquisition. 173 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: And that's about the time when he ended up on 174 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: the road. Yeah, and he went all over Europe just 175 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: basically he was described as sort of wandering. But he 176 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: did meet another woman and get remarried on his wanderings, 177 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: I think toward the tail end of his wanderings about 178 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: eight years later, and moved to Salon in France, and 179 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: then he started kind of getting his getting his act 180 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: together in a in a real way to publish, like 181 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: he he said, you know what, I'm gonna put together 182 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: this book of prophecies. I've been messing around, I've been 183 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: kicking the idea around. I'm just gonna do it. So 184 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: we'll talk about what came out of that. Right after 185 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: this story, So Chuck, Nostre Damas is settling down in 186 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: Solon Solon, Yeah, selectives, and he is deciding to put 187 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: his awesome thoughts down into quatrains, that's right, into a 188 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: book called The Centuries. But at the time he just 189 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: called it the Prophecies. Yeah, the Prophecies of Michel Nostre Damas. 190 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: I think when did they rename it um? I think 191 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: after his death. Yeah, apparently the centuries had nothing to 192 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: do with time. But it was in the structure, the 193 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: organized structure of the book itself, because there are a 194 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: thousand quatrains or four line verses in hundreds. Yeah, for 195 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: some reason. So that's the Centuries. And it wasn't it 196 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: wasn't chronological or anything like that. No, and it was 197 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: it was a It became a huge sensation due to 198 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: a few things. One, simply enough, was that the printing 199 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: press was a recent invention and books were a big deal. 200 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: Now you know, like widespread books like there was now 201 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: something could literally be a best seller for the first time. 202 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: So it aligned in that way. And another is that 203 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: he just sort of fit the dark times. It was 204 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: a book and of its time with all his dire predictions. 205 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: It was, you know, when the Catholics and Protestants were 206 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: warring and there were all kinds of people saying the 207 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: end of the world was coming, and it was just 208 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: it was basically put out right at the right time 209 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: and widespread because of the printing press. And then Queen 210 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: Catherine de Medici of France was a really superstitious queen 211 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: and he predicted her husband Henry the second's death, yeah, 212 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: pretty specifically for once. Yeah, but we'll poke holes on 213 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: that too, and it happened a few years later, and 214 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: so she invited him to the court, which was like 215 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: the most popular court in Europe at the time, and 216 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: so he got a lot of attention there. So he 217 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: was sort of like a big writing superstar of his 218 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: day because of all these things aligning. Yeah, I mean, 219 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: like he wasn't one of those posthumously honored authors like 220 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: he was celebrated during his time. Supposedly he met some 221 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: monks on the road once and correctly said that one 222 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: of them was going to be the next pope. Bam, 223 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: no way case solved. Nostronomous is the real deal, because 224 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: that supposedly happened. So he had like a whole whole 225 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: jam going where he would retire in the evenings. Yeah, 226 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: and he would concentrate on maybe a fire, the flames 227 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: of a fire, meditate on it, yeah, Or he would 228 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: take a bowl with some herbs or something in it 229 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: and just zone out on those, try to read the herbs. 230 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: Like you said, I don't know if he was doing 231 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: lines of nutmeg, but he was ingesting nutmeg most likely, yeah, 232 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: which could be hallucinogenic. Right, And he had to have 233 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: been rich to just be doing nutmeg, you know, Yeah, 234 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: because they had just discovered that. Yeah, And he would 235 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: just kind of zone out. He would apparently he got 236 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: help from an angelic figure, that's what he says said, 237 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: and then he would just see the future. It would 238 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: come to him. The thing is is no stredamis these 239 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: prophecies didn't come to him, all convoluted and kukie and 240 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: however he put them, he understood exactly what was going 241 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: to happen. Well, yeah, he supposedly convoluted them on purpose 242 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: to avoid persecution during his lifetime. Yeah, that is supposedly 243 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: what he told his son from a second marriage, is that, Caesar, Yeah, 244 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm doing all this on purpose, and because they will, 245 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: you know, string me up as a heretic, because I'm 246 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: so eerily accurate. Yeah, they will find out, which I 247 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: mean at the time, it was a genuine concern. So 248 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: it's it's not like this is just a preposterous claim 249 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,239 Speaker 1: on Nostre Damas's part. It's just that for skeptics of Nostradamas, 250 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: it's just one more convenient little thing because if you 251 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: read the quatrains, they make almost no sense in all 252 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: sense simultaneously. Yeah, depending on whether you're reading them on 253 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: their own or whether you're trying to look at them 254 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: in context. Well yeah, well we might as well go 255 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: and talk about that. That's one of the big reasons 256 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: you can poke holes in it is because there were 257 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: even experts say, it's hard to find two copies of 258 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: this book that are the same. Oh yeah, yeah, because 259 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: it was translated, you know, hundreds of times. It was 260 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: the early printing presses were you know, they weren't super 261 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: accurate and they would if the printer maybe didn't know 262 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: exactly what he meant, they would say, well, I think 263 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: he meant to actually have an apostrophe here, and in 264 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: Middle French, that apostrophe could completely change the meaning of 265 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: the word. So beyond that confusion and the translation confusions, 266 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: there are, like you said, there are many different ways 267 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: to interpret something, and if something didn't come true, you 268 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: could probably find a version out there of it that 269 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: supports whatever you think he predicted, right, you know, Yeah, 270 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: there's a pretty good example that people give of a 271 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: translation problem after nine to eleven, which we'll talk more 272 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: about in a second. Yeah, they some quatrain of or 273 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: I guess in a semige of nostredamis. Quatrains were kind 274 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: of bandied about as proof that he predicted it right. 275 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: One of them was there would be smoke in the 276 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: new city. Well, in his actual text in the centuries 277 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: he wrote a villa noeuve Vienneuve, which means in French 278 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: the new city. Yeah, but it was also a city 279 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: in France at the time he was probably talking about. Yeah, 280 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of translation and interpretation that can 281 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: come together and really lead to a misunderstanding. If there 282 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: is even such a thing at all with nostre damas. 283 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: Can you misunderstand him? I don't think it's possible. Can 284 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: you misunderstand what's not understandable words? Yeah, Well, since we're 285 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: talking about interpreting, we might as well go onto the 286 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: famous Hitler prediction. Beasts ferocious with hunger will across the 287 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: rivers a greater part of the battlefield. Wainst into a 288 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: cage of iron iron with the child of Germany, he observes, 289 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: or thing, man, I wouldn't I hope we added some 290 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: effect to that, Jerry, Yes, vocal effects, Yeah, something menacing maybe, 291 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: or maybe we should do like clown music. Um So, 292 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: histor this was has long been looked at as the 293 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: prediction of the rise of Hitler. Yeah, he says Germany 294 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, it's Germany and hisstor Yeah. Um, but 295 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: hisstor was actually the lower Danube River, and so most people, 296 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: um or skeptics would say, well, he didn't say Hitler, 297 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: he said Hister since that was a place. Um, that's 298 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: probably what he meant. Yeah, or he would have said Hitler. Yeah, 299 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: it kind of a miss right there. Um. Some people say, well, 300 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: Hitler was born around the Danube, so he still met Hitler. 301 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: That's exactly the point is that people will find a 302 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: way to interpret it if they choose to. But the 303 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: Nazis still use this to their advantage. They actually dropped 304 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: pamphlets containing this prediction onto France from planes because they 305 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: wanted to scare them, like, hey, even Nostradamas said we're coming, yeah, 306 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: and we're coming, and it worked. I guess it did 307 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: for a while. So there's basically that if you're a 308 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: skeptic of Nostradamus, you say, okay, first of all, he's 309 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: not really saying anything right or anything concrete right, And 310 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: a believer of Nostredamas would say, well, he even said that, 311 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to get it unless you're one of 312 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: the enlightened few who happen to be one of that. 313 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: It's not for this time. It's for people far from 314 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: now to understand, right, And so the skeptic that's arguing 315 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: will sigh and then say, okay, Um, here's the thing though, 316 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: even if even if he is saying something like even 317 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: if there's something clear, he's making a prediction and it 318 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: does seem to come true if you look at events 319 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: in human history as numbers on a graph. Yeah, eventually. 320 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: Statistically speaking, one of Nostredams's very vague predictions about the 321 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: rise of a power, a war, Sure, an earthquake, something 322 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: like that is going to happen, and maybe something will 323 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: have even a couple of predictions that will fit one 324 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: event yeah, like the date might align somehow or something. Yeah, 325 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: because every once a while he used dates, but for 326 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: the most part he didn't. But if you look at 327 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: it statistically, yes, even Nostre Damas' predictions are going to 328 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: come true over a long enough period of time. Right Again, 329 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: if you read the predictions, it's hard to say his 330 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: predictions come true because he's not really predicting anything. It's 331 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: not like he sat back and said, sometime in the 332 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: twenty century, a guy with a terrible mustache is going 333 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: to come to power and there's going to be a 334 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: horrific war as a result. Nothing even approaching that. Yeah, 335 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean you read what the Hitler prediction was, like, 336 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: it could be anything. Yeah, But even if you had 337 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: predicted something, if you take his predictions as predictions, if 338 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: you put them over the arc of time, sure eventually 339 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: you're going to get hit. So that's one argument A 340 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: skeptical argument against Nostredamas. Yeah, especially if you believe, like 341 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: most people do, that history repeats itself in some fashion 342 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: over a long enough timeline. When he himself said that 343 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: that's the model he used, was using the stars to 344 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: look at past historical events to predict future events, right, 345 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: so it kind of makes sense. And also some people 346 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: say these aren't even predictions because a prediction is something 347 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: that you realize before the fact. And despite the fact 348 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: that thousands of scholars have studied Nostradamus and millions of 349 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: people have read him, no one has ever pointed out 350 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: something before it happened. It's always afterward that they go 351 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: back and see, look, see here, he said this was 352 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: going to happen, and it happened because we interpreted that way. 353 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: But no one's ever said stopped anything in its tracks 354 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: because nostredamis predicted it As an excellent point, you know, 355 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: it also raises another argument against no strudomas, and that 356 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: the people who follow no stream, like you said, it's 357 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: always the interpretation is always after the fact. And allegations 358 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: of shoehorning occur where basically you make something fit, you 359 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: shoehorned into the context and in doing so, you cherry 360 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: pick stuff that makes sense and you ignore stuff that 361 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. Yeah. In fact, I think this article, 362 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: this one line says it best imprecise language lends itself 363 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: well to subjective interpretation. Yeah. I mean, if you throw 364 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: something super vague out there, you could come up with 365 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: a hundred different interpretations of it. Yep. You know that's 366 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: what poetry is exactly. And you know, despite all of 367 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: these very great arguments, there's still plenty of people out 368 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: there who believe in Nostre Damas. It almost seems like 369 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: there should be a phase in life where you do 370 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: go through believing that Nostre Damas is real, because it 371 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: does kind of lend some sort of something to life. 372 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: It also coincides with being really into Pink Floyd exam 373 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: it's true. So we'll talk a little more about some 374 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: of the people who argue for and against Nostre Damas, 375 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: specifically centered around nine to eleven. Right after this, okay, Chuck, 376 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: nine to eleven happened, and almost immediately people said Nostre 377 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: Damas predicted this. Yeah, his sales went through the roof, apparently, 378 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: and supposedly his name was googled more than Usama bin 379 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: Laden or George Bush after nine eleven. Really, that's what 380 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: they say. That sounds like something someone just writes on 381 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: the internet exactly, but I believe it. Well, here's why 382 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: his star rose again was because this quatrain emerged where 383 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, that's pretty close to what happened. Yeah. 384 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: I remember hearing it and thinking, oh my gosh, so 385 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: you want to read this one. You're pretty good at reading. Here. 386 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: Can we get the sound effect again? Please cue the 387 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: clown music. In the City of God, there will be 388 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: a great thunder or two brothers torn apart by chaos, 389 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: while the fortress endures, the Great Leader will succome The 390 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: third big war will begin when the big city is burning. 391 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: That's super specific. Yeah. The only thing I don't know 392 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: if most people would agree on is calling New York 393 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: the City of God or George Bush the Great Leader. Yeah, 394 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: but the two brothers clearly those are the two towers. Yeah, 395 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: the fortress endures, the Pentagon the Great Leader Bush. Yeah, 396 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: some people said, and then the third war will begin 397 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: when the big city was burning. Well, at least one 398 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: more war. I don't know if it was World War three, 399 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: but a pretty huge couple of Wars started up as 400 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: a result. So people are saying, here it is finally 401 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: evidence that shows almost incontrovertibly that Nostre Damas was the 402 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: real deal. What's the argument against it, Chuck, Well, it 403 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: was made up. Yeah, Nostre Damas didn't write that. No, 404 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: it was apparently written by several years ago by a 405 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: guy named Neil Marshall, was a student in Canada and 406 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: said he was actually using that as a demonstration of 407 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: what bunk Nostre Damas was like. I could write something 408 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: like this and people would think he predicted nine to eleven, 409 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: and somehow it became something that Nostre Damas wrote. He 410 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: actually proved it by writing that in nineteen ninety seven 411 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: and then it getting picked up in two thousand and one. Yeah, 412 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: so what he set out to do worked worked perfectly. 413 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: He didn't even have to wait more than four years. 414 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: So he basically showed just how um man. I hate 415 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: to use this word, but global people can be when 416 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: they're reading no Stredamus's work, because no one checks anything. Dude. 417 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: They see it and they click on it and they 418 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: post it to social media and then it's done. And 419 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: here's here's another really good example of that a little 420 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: while ago. This still cracks me up. ClickHole you know 421 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: the onions like, uh, BuzzFeed like site. Oh is that onion? Yeah? 422 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know that, I believe so yeah, I'm almost 423 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: positive I know ClickHole Yeah, okay, so ClickHole satirical site 424 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: of like buzzfeedy sits um. They released something called five 425 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 1: Tragedies Weirdly predicted by Adam Sandler and dude they are 426 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: so can I read a couple? Yeah? So, in the 427 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: wake of the nineteen ninety three tragedy um, apparently people 428 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: went back and saw that Adam Sandler, during his early 429 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: stand up career, would mutter something's coming to Waco, something 430 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: dark like during his stand up show. Is that true? 431 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: None of this is true? Okay? I thought they just 432 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: picked apart real things and no. Okay. So the nineteen 433 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: ninety seven car crash that killed Princess Diana, apparently if 434 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: you go back and watch Happy Gilmore, which was made 435 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six, Sandler looks directly in the camera 436 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: and says, Our Queen's eldest, the beautiful flower will will 437 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: under a Parisian bridge. Can I keep going? So? The 438 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: BP oil spill that happened in twenty ten in the Gulf. Yeah. 439 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: Apparently Adam Sandler was on Conan O'Brien in two thousand 440 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: and five and he was just wearing a t shirt 441 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: that said BP oil spill in five years the twenty 442 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: ten Haitian earthquake. Yeah, the UN estimates that two hundred 443 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: and twenty two thousand, five hundred and seventy people were killed. 444 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: Apparently in Adam Sandler's funny People, he estimated two hundred 445 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: and twenty thousand on the notes. And then lastly, the 446 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: Malaysia Airlines Flight three seventy Adam Sandler when he was operaman. Yeah, 447 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: there was a nineteen ninety three operaman sketch where he says, 448 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm missing plane. It's from Malaysia. Makes me insane. This 449 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: will all make sense in due time. That's good man. 450 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, man, people believe that viral, I'm not 451 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: kidding you. It went viral that like somehow Adam Sandler 452 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: had made all these crazy predictions. And this is a 453 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: real thing because apparently they didn't announce that when clickbait 454 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: came out that it was a satirical site that BP 455 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: oil spill and the teacher it's pretty good. Yeah, well, 456 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: let's get into some of these then. First of all, 457 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: to further than nine to eleven thing, there were a 458 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: couple of other quatrains which have been cobbled together to 459 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: try and support the nine to eleven thing. But like 460 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: I said, they weren't as he wrote them. They like 461 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: would combine things, which is just silly because that goes 462 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: against everything that he was saying was each quatrain is 463 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: its own thing. One of them Century ten Quatrain seventy two, 464 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: the year nineteen ninety nine. Seven months from the sky 465 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: will come the great King of Terror to resuscitate the 466 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 1: Great King of the Mongols before and after Mars reigns. 467 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: By good luck. That last part sounds like it's from 468 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: a fortune cookie. That before nine to eleven back in 469 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: ninety nine, some people thought he was foretelling the end 470 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: of the world would be on July twenty fourth, nineteen 471 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: ninety nine. And I remember this happening, and I remember 472 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: it being a big deal. There was like genuine concern 473 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: from some people, like some stores and France had like 474 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: closeout sales. There was this one French designer who like 475 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: canceled his big He was a big believer, and he 476 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: canceled this big show, and of course it didn't happen, 477 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: And then it was recalculated and everyone said, no, no, no, 478 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't supposed to be July twenty fourth. If you 479 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: read it this way, it means August eleventh, and of 480 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: course the world didn't and then either in August. How 481 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: do you get August eleventh from seven months into nineteen 482 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: ninety nine. Well, again it was there were some different 483 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: translations that maybe we're different enough to recalculate. Yeah, yeah, 484 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: But then that one was also used for nine to eleven, 485 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: was repurposed for nine to eleven. Right, they're like, he 486 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: was just close, Yeah, exact, it's a couple of years off. Well, 487 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: they combined that one with Century six Quatrain ninety seven, 488 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: which says, at forty five degrees, this guy will burn 489 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: fire to approach the great new city. In an instant, 490 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: a great scattered flame will leap up when one will 491 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: want to demand proof of the normans, what is that 492 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: last thing? I'm not sure that's the thing. Like, you 493 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: can't just pick part of it and then discount the rest, 494 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: right and say that you know he was wrong on that, 495 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: But that's exactly what people did. Well, they did because 496 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: several quatrains referred to an anti Christ's figure called Mabus, 497 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: and if you rearrange the letters it could be Ussam 498 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: b Yeah, and so people use that as proof. But 499 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: they also didn't they failed to mention that previous to that, 500 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: they used it as Saddam, like up to the day 501 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: before nine to eleven. Yeah, they were saying it was 502 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: Saddam Hussein was Mabus because maybe's spelled backwards as sue bomb. 503 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: Kind of a reach if you ask me. It is. Well, 504 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: in that forty five degrees part of the quad trains, 505 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: some people said that New York cities around forty degrees 506 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: five minutes north latitude, so that's close. But again he 507 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: was said the new city will burn at forty five 508 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: degrees Villanueva or Vienneuve, Yeah, is that about forty five 509 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: degrees latitude? So it could just be interpretation. I don't 510 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: know who who's really at fault here. Is it Nostredama, 511 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: Is it the people who just blindly accept nostredas predictions? 512 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: Is it? Though? Because Nostre Damas purposefully obfuscated his stuff, 513 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: so I think he's a little bit responsible. For this too, 514 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: I imagine since he has that great sense of humor. 515 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: It made fun of that one guy's statue of the 516 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: Virgin Mary. Yeah, he is sitting in his coffin holding 517 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: a plaque with some future date when he'll be exhumed 518 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: his laughing and laughing. Yeah maybe. Yeah. We mentioned Henry 519 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: the second. He predicted his death this quatrain, the young 520 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: lion will overcome the old one on the field of 521 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: battle in single combat. He will put his eyes in 522 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: a cage of gold two fleets one then to die 523 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: in a cruel death. So that means two injuries. And 524 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: this actually happened. King Henry was in a jousting competition, 525 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: but it wasn't on the field of battle. It was 526 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: a friendly It was a party basically, and Captain Montgomery, 527 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: who was younger the younger lion did joust, hit him 528 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: in the in the eye and through the throat. So 529 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: the two injuries supposedly from one man. Yeah, but that 530 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: was all that his wife Dimdici, Queen Dmadicici, needed to know. 531 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: She was like, you know, holy crap, this has come true. Yes, 532 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: and he knows what he's doing. John F. Kennedy, the Challenger, 533 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: the Great Fire of London. People have said that he's 534 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: predicted all these things. But we could sit here all 535 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: day poking holes in the you know that, not that 536 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: we're poking holes, but other people have poked legitimate holes. 537 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: I think we poked a few holes. Well yeah, but 538 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's all been from other people's stuff. Oh 539 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: that's true. You know I didn't do my own hole poking. No, 540 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: we should probably say we'd never begrudge anybody that believing 541 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: in something like that or enjoying like I don't think 542 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: it hurts anything behind it or anything like that. Yes, 543 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: if you go out dump all your stocks and sell 544 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: your worldly possessions, or you cancel your big fashion debut, yeah, 545 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: that's all that just hurts you. Yeah, although that may 546 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: have hurt the fashion world. Yeah, he probably had it 547 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: the week after. You want to hear something crazy. Yeah, 548 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: about the day before September eleventh, this group called the Coup. 549 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: They're a rap group out of Oakland. They're pretty awesome. 550 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: They were releasing their album I can't remember what's called. 551 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: I want to say, like party Time or party Fever, 552 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: party something Yeah, and like the day before and it 553 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: had the guy Boots Riley, who is like the MC 554 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: for the group. It had him like standing there pressing 555 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: a button in the twin towers were coming down, like 556 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: blowing up. They were going to release it like the 557 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: day before. It was scheduled to release in September two 558 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: thousand and one, and then nine to eleven happened. They're like, well, 559 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: let's change the cover. And that's why you've never heard 560 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: of the coup I wonder Actually, yeah, well they were 561 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: getting kind of big right around that time. The album 562 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: had like good buzz around it, and then yeah, they 563 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: just went away. They're still around there. Well, all the 564 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: all the entertainment that was released around that time notoriously suffered. Yeah. 565 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: I can't remember what movies in particular, but yeah, exactly, 566 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: there are a lot of things. Later on, the people 567 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: are like, wow, we've released it right before nine eleven, 568 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: so we were you know, we were doomed. Yeah, but 569 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: it was a movie. Who cares, you know? So if 570 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: you want to know more about Nostradamis, you can go 571 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: look this up on how still works dot com by 572 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: scanning the search bar, or you can just kind of 573 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: look around the internet, because there is plenty of stuff 574 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: about that dude on there. And enjoy yourself. And since 575 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: I said enjoy yourself, it's time for listener. Now, I'm 576 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: gonna call this um trailer builder. Hey, guys, Chuck and 577 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: Josh or Josh and Chuck, whichever you prefer. We prefer 578 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: Josh and Chuck. I think it goes either way. Yeah, 579 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: well that's what we kind of settled on, consistent branding. No, 580 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: it goes both ways. We go both ways. Yeah, all right, 581 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: Chuck and Josh, Josh and Chuck. Hey, guys, I must 582 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: admit that I tried very hard not to listen to you. 583 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: I was told by several of my friends that I 584 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: absolutely must subscribe to your show. 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