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Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Former Jaguar Jeff Loghman and JP

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Speaker 1: Shadrick provide the latest Jaguars news and what's happening around

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Jaguar begins right now. Welcommend Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: on this Thursday. JP Shadrick with you, Jeff Lockman alongside,

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Speaker 1: and Urban Watch one continues. What a day it's been

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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Urban Meyer is in town, he is in

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Speaker 1: the stadium. The negotiations continue. Nothing official from the Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: here on Jaguars Happy Hour. And yes, obviously one of

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Speaker 1: the great college football coaches of all times three national

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Speaker 1: coach to have won national titles at different schools since

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Speaker 1: the A people started the nineteen and he's six. There

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Speaker 1: coached by percentage in major college football history. He's been

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Speaker 1: a winner everywhere he's been. Let's see if he can

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Speaker 1: bring it to the NFL. If this gets done today.

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Speaker 1: I think what's impressive is that he's the third all

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Speaker 1: time winning his percentage wise, but look at the different

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Speaker 1: programs that he's been at. UM. This is not a

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Speaker 1: and then just takes a perennial winner and just keeps

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about a guy who was that

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Speaker 1: Bowling Green and UH, to be honest with you, JP

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Speaker 1: Or growing up as a kid, I didn't even know

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Speaker 1: that Bowling Green had a football program. Okay, So so

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Speaker 1: he wins there, and then he goes to Utah, which, look,

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Speaker 1: Then goes to Florida. Okay, won a lot of football games.

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Speaker 1: very impressive track record that he has. And there's no

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Speaker 1: somebody that's a leader. And if you can find somebody

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Speaker 1: it will be exciting. As we said on a previous

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Speaker 1: and what's his what's just out of curiosity because I

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Speaker 1: mean you've got you got the his information up there.

433
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Speaker 1: What's the worst record he's ever had as a coach?

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Speaker 1: I mean that's because I mean, I'm not saying that

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have the worst record ever his first year

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Speaker 1: as a coach. I'm just saying is that, Look, when

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Speaker 1: you're building a program, there are bumps in the road,

438
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Speaker 1: and there are gonna be things that you have to

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Speaker 1: eventually overcome. And I'm sure he had to overcome these

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Speaker 1: in college. What was his worst right? So in two

441
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Speaker 1: thousand and one, his first year at Bowling Green, they

442
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 1: were eight and three, they were nine and three. The

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Speaker 1: next year turn into a Utah twelve and oh. Nine

444
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Speaker 1: and three is first year at Florida, and then a

445
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Speaker 1: bunch of double digit win seasons nine and four and

446
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Speaker 1: oh seven. They're eight and five and twenty ten is

447
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: last year at Florida was probably his worst. That was

448
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Speaker 1: the most losses he has was eight and five and

449
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: twenty ten is last year at Florida. They won They

450
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Speaker 1: won the Outback Bowl to get to eight So seven

451
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Speaker 1: and five regular season, okay, I mean, so I mean

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Speaker 1: still winning record. I mean, that's amazing to me. The

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Speaker 1: first year he's ever head coach at Bowling Green he

454
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Speaker 1: was eight three and what was Bowling Green the year before?

455
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Speaker 1: I mean, you probably have to bring it up, but

456
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Speaker 1: I mean it'd be a great question to know, because

457
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we show the direct impact that irbra

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Speaker 1: Meyer had on the program. To be able to walk

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Speaker 1: into the door in the first year ever as the

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Speaker 1: coach at Bowling Green to roll out eight and three

461
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Speaker 1: and then year or two go to nine and three,

462
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Speaker 1: that's impressive. They were two and nine and two. I

463
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Speaker 1: mean that right there, That right there tells me, I

464
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Speaker 1: mean how important a coach is because a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: and I've said this in the past, that the college game,

466
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Speaker 1: the program is very different because of the ability to

467
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Speaker 1: recruit players and it there's no question that if that's

468
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Speaker 1: an advantage at the collegiate level, because look, look at

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Speaker 1: the number of pro prospects that the top programs Ohio State, Clemson,

470
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Speaker 1: and Alabama are all churning out year after year after year.

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Speaker 1: And who are the top three programs that year and

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Speaker 1: the year out are in the national championship conversations named

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Speaker 1: those three programs. But to go to Bowling Green and

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Speaker 1: to go from what tow and nine to eight and three,

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Speaker 1: I mean, okay, did he did he get all of

476
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Speaker 1: a sudden these duco transfers at Bowling Green? I don't

477
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Speaker 1: think that's I mean, can you do that at Bowling Green?

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can? I mean that that's impressive

479
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Speaker 1: to me. If you wanted to evaluate the greatest year

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Speaker 1: and maybe the greatest impact of of Urban Meyer and coaching,

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Speaker 1: I would look at that. You're right there. To take

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Speaker 1: a program like Bowling Green to go from two and

483
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Speaker 1: nine to eight and three with him being the difference,

484
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Speaker 1: that's incredible, and then obviously continue to do it on

485
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Speaker 1: the biggest of stages later in your career is a

486
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: lot of pressure. When you perform at the places like

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Speaker 1: that and finally get the big jobs, you're gonna go

488
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Speaker 1: perform at the big jobs and does well. It just

489
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Speaker 1: it just goes to show you. We talked about it.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of sayings Jimmy's and Joe's

491
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Speaker 1: and the xes and the oh's okay, and then you

492
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: also have the saying that coaching matters. Well, you know what,

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Speaker 1: if you want to know or understand how coaching can matter,

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00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: look at that. Look at those two years at Bowling

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Speaker 1: Green before Urban Meyer and then with Irving Meyer in

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Speaker 1: it ought to tell you that coaching does matter. But

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Speaker 1: then you could probably say the same type of thing

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Speaker 1: and look at some of the other years and look

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Speaker 1: at the players that he had a different years at

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Speaker 1: Florida and to compare the success or maybe the year

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Speaker 1: that wasn't as good when they went eight and five

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Speaker 1: and they had to get that eighth win in a

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Speaker 1: bowl game, to maybe compare some of the talent that

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Speaker 1: you had with the higher win seasons compared to that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's look it, Jimmy's and Joe's matter, and

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00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: coaching matters to it all matters, And that's that's the

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00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: thing about is that you have to have all these

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Speaker 1: pieces in place to be able to have the greatest

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Speaker 1: chance of success. Let's come back. Plenty of quarterback talk,

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00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: plenty of Urban Meyer talk. As the weight continues. He's around,

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Speaker 1: the negotiations are continuing. It feels like they're inside the

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Jaguars Happy Hour continues j P. Shadrick, Jeff

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Speaker 1: Lagavan still awaiting the Urban Meyer news. He's in the building.

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Speaker 1: Negotiations continue and if it breaks in the next thirty minutes,

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Speaker 1: we'll bring it to your live right here on Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagoman And it's been

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Speaker 1: a fun filled day already, following the social media stories

559
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Speaker 1: and photographs of him getting off the plane and then

560
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: the video. There were cameras staked out outside the stadium

561
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: of the car arriving to the garage at the the

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00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: loading bay doors. So they had it all. They had

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Speaker 1: the whole, They had it all. I walked in the

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Speaker 1: other side. There's cameras out there, but he was He

565
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: didn't walk in the front door. I think they took

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Speaker 1: him in some back games. Yes, that's right. To try

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Speaker 1: to avoid all that the work on a day like today,

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00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: and it's hard to avoid all that. Anyway, we will

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Speaker 1: keep you posted on what happens. It feels like it's

570
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 1: very very close to being a done deal, and if

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Speaker 1: it does happen in the next thirty minutes, we'll bring

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Speaker 1: it to you. So we we touched on quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: obviously his history with quarterbacks. You go back one thing.

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Speaker 1: We haven't talked about his potential compensation. I mean, I

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00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: mean that's there's a kind of well, because you know,

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Speaker 1: when we hear or the the reports are that the

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Speaker 1: negotiations are still ongoing, a lot of people might think, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's about the money, and and I'm sure that that

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Speaker 1: has been part of it. I don't think that that

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00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: that's part of the conversation once you get down to

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Speaker 1: the to the finer details. I think that the parameters

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Speaker 1: of compensation are one of the first things you talk about,

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Speaker 1: just to see if the interest is gonna be sustained.

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Speaker 1: But if you if you if you had to guess

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Speaker 1: as far as compensation for a coach of of Urban

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00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: Meyer statue, I mean you you have to I mean

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing somewhere in the eight million plus ballpark, and

588
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,239
Speaker 1: eight millions probably being a little bit conservative low. But

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00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean, if you compare what Matt rule god in Carolina,

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00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: what some of the top collegiate coaches are getting at

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Speaker 1: the collegiate level, which is essentially what Urban Meyer had

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Speaker 1: been making at Ohio State. I don't know what he

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Speaker 1: made at Florida, but I mean that's what it cost

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Speaker 1: you for a top college guys, around seven to eight million.

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Speaker 1: But okay, now you're talking about one of the top

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Speaker 1: three of all time winning percentage and to make the

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Speaker 1: move to the pro game. I mean my thinking is

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Speaker 1: it's probably got to be a little bit even higher

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Speaker 1: than that. So could it be in the ten, could

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Speaker 1: it be in the twelve. I don't know that the

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00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: top paid coach in the National Football League. Everybody thinks

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00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: that it's Bill Belichick, but nobody knows for sure. Because

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00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: nobody knows for sure exactly what that number is. There

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Speaker 1: are reports that are in the range of twenty million

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Speaker 1: per year. Is that possible? Look, if if you have

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Speaker 1: a player on your roster that is worth fifteen million

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00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: a year, why would a coach that is gonna change

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Speaker 1: the culture and established winning for you or potentially established

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Speaker 1: winning for you, because nothing's for sure. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: isn't that worth fifteen million? Absolutely? Absolutely? I mean, how

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Speaker 1: many mistakes as this organization made with some high price

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Speaker 1: free agents that didn't pan out and and you lost

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Speaker 1: millions on no production. I mean, and I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that that was unique to this organization. That's that happens

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00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: with every National Football League team occasionally, and so that's

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00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: just the cost of doing business sometimes. But if you

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Speaker 1: can get one of the best coaches that there is,

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Speaker 1: and if you have to pay him more than so

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Speaker 1: be it. But I mean, if I had to guess JP,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking ten to ten, ten to twelve fifteen million

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Speaker 1: bucks a year or something like that out there earlier

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00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: was twelve and then there were reports, so it's not

623
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Speaker 1: that high. We may not really know, but his last

624
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: salary at Ohio State was seven point six million dollars.

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00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's I mean, you have to at

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Speaker 1: least be higher than that. I mean, I'm thinking, like, like,

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00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: like I said, you gotta be at least getting ten, right,

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Speaker 1: John Gruden's getting ten. Crudens ten. Uh, don't know what

629
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll is is where he's at. But uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm I'm thinking that, Look, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: near the top of the league. I mean, you're you're

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Speaker 1: talking about and and if if he has the power,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if he's going to have the

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Speaker 1: power to do everything personnel wise or anything of that nature,

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Speaker 1: because you want to allow personnel people to do what

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Speaker 1: they do best. And and just because you were a

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Speaker 1: great college coach doesn't mean that you're a great personnel

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Speaker 1: guy at the NFL level. So you you hire qualified

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00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: personnel people to be able to do that. So but

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Speaker 1: I mean you certainly if you're if you're hiring a

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Speaker 1: coach of that magnitude, then then his reach is a

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00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: little bit farther, I think, and and input is a

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00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: little bit farther than most. So and with that input

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguar's Happy Hour, and welcome back, Shadrick. That's Jeff Logaman.

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer watch continues. Nothing official from the team yet.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep you posted in the next twenty minutes or

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Speaker 1: if you if you look at all those candidates, how

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Speaker 1: track record on Jason Garrett. That's about it. You got

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Speaker 1: a no track record on anybody else. We left out

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Speaker 1: Reale Morris, he was the falcon. He's got a little bit,

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Speaker 1: He's got a track but small. That's about it, though.

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Speaker 1: But the track record of Urban Meyer, even though it's

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Speaker 1: at Bowling Green, Utah, Florida, Ohio State for programs, how

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Speaker 1: How many were they? Rockney was it Notre Dame, Notre Dame,

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Speaker 1: and that's about it. And Frank Lahy was at let's see,

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Speaker 1: So essentially both of them were at Notre Dame. Back

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Speaker 1: seven thirteen and nine. Let me ask you a question here,

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Speaker 1: that's it's amazing. It's oppressive. We'll see, it's uh feels

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Jaguar's Happy Hour. Here's your host We're

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Speaker 1: back Jaguar's happy hour rolling along J P. Shadrick, Jeff

865
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Speaker 1: Blagman or when I watch continues nothing official, We'll keep

866
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Speaker 1: you posted. So I gotta feel him now, Yeah, like

867
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Speaker 1: a watch. I mean, it's now it's got to be

868
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Speaker 1: getting pretty closed right there in front of your face,

869
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Speaker 1: that's right. I mean, when when you have hurricanes, you

870
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Speaker 1: have a hurricane watching a warning and then what's what's

871
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Speaker 1: the one that means like it's coming, Get the hell

872
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Speaker 1: out of dodges the warning, right, I would have to

873
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: saying this might be an urban warning, I mean, but

874
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Speaker 1: it's not really a warning, right, there's to the two

875
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Speaker 1: hurricane flags are up right now for Hurricane Urban. Um,

876
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Speaker 1: it's about to make landfall, we think in the next

877
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 1: few minutes. It feels like, so okay, if he takes

878
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: the job, signs um, then he's got to assemble a staff.

879
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: And there's all these reports of some big names that

880
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: have been former coaches and college head coaches that could

881
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: be involved. But that staff, the offensive defensive coordinator, special

882
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: teams coordinator, those are the three big ones underneath him

883
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: to really start filling that staff out. Yeah, and I

884
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: think that, uh, I think a lot of coaches. One

885
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: of the first quality that they look for is loyalty,

886
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: because you want to hire people that you trust. And Irving,

887
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: having spent a lot of time at the collegiate level,

888
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: is gonna want to hire guys that he has had

889
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Speaker 1: that have been very loyal to him and and some

890
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: of those guys may or may not have experience at

891
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: the NFL level, but I think that many that he's

892
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: worked with have probably had experience at both coaches have

893
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: essentially cross pollinated between the n c A A and

894
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: and in the NFL, and that's happened, and it's been

895
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: pretty frequent, So I'm sure that he's had exposure and

896
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Speaker 1: experience with people that have had experience at the NFL level.

897
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Speaker 1: And I think that if if he feels like that

898
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Speaker 1: he needs to have somebody that that he doesn't know

899
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: very well, but he would reach out to somebody that

900
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Speaker 1: could maybe guide him, or that he could ask that, hey, look,

901
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Speaker 1: you know who is the best qualified to do X?

902
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Speaker 1: And I need somebody that has experience, then look, you

903
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Speaker 1: go and you hire somebody that's got experienced because that's obviously, uh,

904
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different of a game, but it's

905
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: still football at the end of the day. And I

906
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Speaker 1: also think that the the establishment of a lot of

907
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Speaker 1: the coaches and then also all the support staff around it,

908
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Speaker 1: and uh, and I'm sure that a part of the

909
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Speaker 1: negotiating process is you know, how much input does does

910
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Speaker 1: he have on every everybody else? And and in reality

911
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Speaker 1: is I think it's probably a nervous time for some

912
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Speaker 1: because you're talking about support staff like the training group

913
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Speaker 1: and strength any of that. It could be anything, um,

914
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: could be anything. I mean, that's that's the one thing

915
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Speaker 1: I think that you know, Look, when you're trying to

916
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Speaker 1: establish a culture, sometimes you're trying to bring in your people.

917
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Speaker 1: So does that make certain people at risk? Sure, I

918
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Speaker 1: mean that's that's part of uh. When you have a

919
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Speaker 1: change in staff that sometimes things change. And so I'm

920
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Speaker 1: sure it's a it's an unnerving time for some people

921
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: that are with the organization right now and on football

922
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 1: support staff because when when Urban comes in, I'm sure

923
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Speaker 1: he's gonna have a vision in mind. And sometimes when

924
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Speaker 1: you have a vision, you have to be able to

925
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Speaker 1: have people carry your vision through. And so your comfort

926
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Speaker 1: level with people maybe that you've worked in the past.

927
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Speaker 1: I think we'll will certainly play a part of that

928
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Speaker 1: or and it should play part of that. I'm sure

929
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Speaker 1: that process has already started to figure out who he's

930
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Speaker 1: probably been on it for a while. Well, we've we've

931
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Speaker 1: heard many reports as far as two weeks ago that

932
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Speaker 1: Irvian Meyer and I don't know the accuracy of these

933
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Speaker 1: reports smoke, so there's fire somewhere, But the reports were

934
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Speaker 1: saying that urban Meyer was in the process of assembling

935
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Speaker 1: the staff and was in the event that he would

936
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Speaker 1: take the the Jaguar's job. Well, uh, that's all part

937
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Speaker 1: of it, because if you are thinking about taking the job,

938
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939
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940
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Speaker 1: you're going to have, and to make sure that they

941
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Speaker 1: don't go anywhere else quickly. So um, and that would

942
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Speaker 1: be the wise thing to do if you were considering

943
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Speaker 1: taking the job. And the reports were exactly that. So um,

944
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how quickly things happen once

945
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: he gets hired, and then also what happens with the

946
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Speaker 1: general manager position, because that's obviously that's the next big

947
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: thing that not that needs to happen. As we said

948
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Speaker 1: many times before, when you look at Hall of Fame coaches,

949
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Speaker 1: When you look at the NFL Hall of Fame coaches,

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Speaker 1: what is the one thing in common with almost all

952
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Speaker 1: of the Hall of Fame coaches, with the exception of

953
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Speaker 1: maybe one or two, they all have Hall of Fame quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you, if you if you look at

955
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame and the in the exception Joe J. Gibbs,

956
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Speaker 1: who had multiple super winning ball winning quarterbacks, but if

957
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Speaker 1: you look at the Hall of Fame coaches, nearly every

958
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Speaker 1: one of them has a Hall of Fame quarterback. That's

959
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Speaker 1: impressive and and and it's it's it tells you that

960
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Speaker 1: you've got to have the players to be able to

961
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Speaker 1: do it. And with the Jaguars having the first overall

962
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Speaker 1: pick in the draft and the expectation the Jaguars will

963
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Speaker 1: draft Trevor Lawrence and many people saying that, I'm not

964
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Speaker 1: saying Trevor Lawrences hall of Famer, It's like, what's that's

965
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966
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967
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Speaker 1: and here's your host, GV. Shadrick. Welcome back, coming down

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Speaker 1: the home stretch of Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadrick, Jeff Logaman,

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Speaker 1: Glad you're along with us today on what has been

1030
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Speaker 1: an eventful day for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Nothing official has

1031
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: been announced yet what Urban Meyer is in the building,

1032
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Speaker 1: and they're getting close to a five analized agreement, and

1033
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1034
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1035
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1036
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Speaker 1: I A. A. Bank Fields so almost so imminent. We

1037
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Speaker 1: keep looking looking through the windows. You're gonna walk to

1038
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Speaker 1: the left going okay, are they gonna come over. We're

1039
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Speaker 1: gonna give us a thumbs up or or or thumbs down.

1040
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, the white smoke, because Tony said

1041
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Speaker 1: is is uh, maybe they're fir enough to fire right

1042
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Speaker 1: now to put the white smoke. The conversation about some

1043
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Speaker 1: of the negotiations involved facilities with urban Meyer. Albert Breu

1044
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Speaker 1: reported that Sports Illustrated that the facilities and staffing, facility

1045
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Speaker 1: upgrades and staffing or some of the negotiation in the

1046
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Speaker 1: final final minutes. Yeah, I think staff. The facilities part

1047
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Speaker 1: is a natural. You know, we've had the opportunity to

1048
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Speaker 1: travel and to watch this Jaguars football team practice. Other

1049
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Speaker 1: teams in Minnesota, Vikings, the New England Patriots, uh Baltimore Ravens,

1050
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Speaker 1: and all of those play has had facilities that were amazing.

1051
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Speaker 1: Minnesota had facilities that were just, I mean off the

1052
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Speaker 1: chart amazing where they essentially are developing an entire area

1053
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Speaker 1: and they have a stadium of many stadium in there

1054
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Speaker 1: that they can actually hold scrimmages and they can host

1055
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Speaker 1: high school football. I mean, they have an orthopedic medical

1056
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Speaker 1: part to that whole complex. But I mean, if if

1057
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Speaker 1: you wanted to look at where the Jaguars are and

1058
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Speaker 1: where they may be behind compared to other teams in

1059
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Speaker 1: the National Football League, the facilities is probably the biggest one.

1060
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Speaker 1: And that I would think that if verbon Meyer had

1061
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Speaker 1: been him coming from college football or college football. It

1062
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Speaker 1: seems to be the Great Arms race, which is the

1063
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Speaker 1: facilities race. Every couple of years. It's you know, the

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Speaker 1: all those teams and where he's been. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: facilities have been just unbelievable, so coming here and having

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Speaker 1: and look, they work fine and work fine for me,

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Speaker 1: but I mean in the new modern NFL, the facilities

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Speaker 1: need to be upgraded and to attract free agents. When

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Speaker 1: money is even and everything, maybe it makes a difference.

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Speaker 1: And if it, if it does make a difference, then

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Speaker 1: you want to have the best of the best. So

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that was part of the conversation. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: it was, and I'm sure at some point you will

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Speaker 1: hear the news on that front as well. Logs. Great

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Speaker 1: to see you, great to be seen, Yes, sir, it is,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you next time. Thanks to Joe Fortunato, Trumpada,

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Speaker 1: Brent reeb our entire crew. I'm J. P. Shadrick. Stay

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Speaker 1: tuned to Jaguars dot com and at Jaguars on social

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Speaker 1: media for the latest whatever it is announced by the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Urban Meyer in the building. Thank you for watching

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Speaker 1: and listening. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Radio Network.