1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, ba fam, it is time for another b 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: a qa A b a q A what you say 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: a b a qa with manday? I don't know why 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: I am singing tiffin A b a qa. All right, 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: Today we are breaking down all about how you can 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: manage your money, from planning to budgeting to spending. We 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: have got you covered. 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: Here's the thing, ba fam. If you'd like to ask 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: us questions, we'd love to receive them. 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Do you what did 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: the first question? 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: I didn't take a breath you read it. 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: This is from Ashley from ig Hey, Mandy, I was 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: one of your first Mandy money makers. Woo woo. We 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: love a stand of Mandy. Thank you so much for 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: all that you've done and taught me. My question today 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: is how can I protect myself from identity theft? This 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: morning I woke up to new emails about small business 28 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: social security account update and a purchase of two new iPhones. 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: Please help, Ashley, do you have to pay for credit security? 30 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: Ooh wow, something's going on there, Like they're saying, yeah, 31 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: your social security account has been updated, purchase of two 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: new iPhones. The first thing I do whenever I get 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: those emails is check the email address that it came from, 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: because I just, for example, I just started to advertise 35 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: on Facebook a week ago and I got the most 36 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: legitimate looking email about my ads account being in violation 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: of their rules, which is like one of the It 38 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: can happen all the time with your when you're doing ads. 39 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: It's really easy to like upset the Facebook gods. And 40 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: you don't want to do that because then you waste 41 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: money in time anyway, And I was almost like, I 42 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: need to click this link and figure out what I've done, 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: but it just something about it, like the formatting, and 44 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: so I check the email address and it was like 45 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: from an Outlook account, you know. So I think the 46 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: first thing for to secure yourself is to be aware 47 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: of what phishing attempts look like, which seems so old school, 48 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: but they still happen, you know, So check that email address. 49 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: You can also hover over any hyperlinks and see where 50 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 1: it's actually trying to direct you to. And if it's 51 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: not to, you know, a legitimate website, then I would 52 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: just say, excuse me, immediately kick it to spam or 53 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: to junk. That's how I feel about email. But now 54 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: it's like, come into your text do you get do 55 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: you get phishing text? 56 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: Now? 57 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: Girl? 58 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: Yes? Talk about this the irs. I'm like, girls, are 59 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: you texted now? 60 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: With your lack of funding? 61 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 3: Now? 62 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: So no, first and foremost that like whatever I get 63 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: to Manny's point, you know, I checked the email to say, like, 64 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: who's the email at just coming from? And then typically 65 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: I'll call the company directly if that's available to me 66 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 2: to call the company directly. But one thing I had 67 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: to do so when my late husband was still here 68 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: his I don't know why, but they used to steal 69 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: that man's, that poor man's identity all the time. Like 70 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 2: literally one time they bought a car and we only 71 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: knew because they they were like based in I don't know, 72 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 2: like upstate New York or someplace far where they were 73 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: getting tickets from easy Paths and so they. 74 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: Were going on tour with Janelle's name, Jerelle's name, and 75 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: then got a loan or. 76 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: Something something, and then they were get like, you know, 77 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: they had an easy pass account they put in his 78 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: name and was not paying the ticket, so we were 79 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: getting easy Pass tickets. That's how we found out. It 80 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: was just a mess. I would say at least three 81 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: times when I was with them and he said it 82 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: happened before, Like I'm like, so I'm assuming that his 83 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: probably information was on some crazy you know, like what 84 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: it's like the dark web, you know, and so they're 85 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: probably just swapping it out. Plus two, Jerell's an identical twin. 86 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: His twins name is Terrell, So you have Jerrell Smith 87 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: Terrell Smith, both born on the same day, and so 88 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: oftentimes they would see each other's things on each other's 89 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: credit reports, because that happens too with juniors. Oftentimes that 90 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: will happen, especially if you're in the same house. Your 91 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: dad is a senior, you're a junior, but you're both 92 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: named Robert Smith and you live at the same place, 93 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 2: so sometimes you'll see your stuff on each other's credit report. 94 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: But it happens with twins who have similar names too. 95 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: Oh really, so what would they do then? Would they 96 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: have to like dispute it or yeah? Girl, there was 97 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: like whatever. 98 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: I was like, this is why your credit like whatever. 99 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: So when I came along, I said, bab, we got 100 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: you something about this because this is crazy. So we 101 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: actually this is not sponsored or anything like that. They 102 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: haven't give me any money like as Budgety Store or 103 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: Brown Ambition. We actually signed up for LifeLock and it stopped. 104 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: Did instantly tell me about LifeLock or these? 105 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I haven't. I have never invested in something 106 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: like that. 107 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: I can't remember how much LifeLock costs because now I 108 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: just like, have it automated. I think at the time 109 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: it was like maybe like ten bucks a month. Maybe 110 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: it's a little bit more now maybe twenty bucks or something. 111 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: Whatever it is. So we got LifeLock, signed up for it. 112 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: And what I like about LifeLock is even for me. 113 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: I remember once I went to go open up a 114 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: bank account at like my regular bank or whatever, and 115 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: the bank was like we're not able to, and I'm 116 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: like why, And then I got a text from LifeLock 117 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: saying someone's trying to open up a bank account. If 118 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: that's you, click yes. If that's you, click no, And 119 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's right. So I had to approve. 120 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: So I would get a text or emails, and typically 121 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: it's a text, email and phone call to say any 122 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: new card, any new bank account, any new debt that 123 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get into. LifeLock would hit me up 124 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: and say is this you, which you know like sometimes 125 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: if you forget like me, which I always forget, and 126 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 2: I'm like, why can't you open it? 127 00:05:58,920 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, that's right. 128 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: So that's one thing like LifeLock, but also too you 129 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: can go directly to like Experience, Equofax, trans Union and 130 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: you can actually freeze. I did this with Durell after 131 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: he passed away. My financial advisor, Angelie said right away, Tiffany, 132 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: because when people know that someone passed away, they know 133 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: you're in grief, and they will sometimes attack that person's 134 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: you know, financial credit and background and just start using 135 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 2: it up. So I went into each of those specific 136 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: accounts and froze his credit. And you can freeze and unfreeze, 137 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 2: but I froze it obviously indefinitely, so no one can 138 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: open up anything in his name. And I just am 139 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: not paying attention because it's not me. And so that's 140 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: something so smart too. 141 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: I did that now I'm remembering because I was telling Tiffan, like, 142 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty delinquent with my identity. But I 143 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: did do the credit freeze. This was I mean, think 144 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: Equifax data breach back in like twenty sixteen really spooked me. 145 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: But I mean there's so many. It's just so many 146 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: data breaches they can't even keep It's not even that 147 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: big of a news anymore because it just happens all 148 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: the time. But yeah, credit freeze. And I remember then 149 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: I started shopping for a mortgage and I was annoyed 150 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: by it because I'm like, damn it, I got to 151 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: unfreeze and all that. So now that I'm not shopping 152 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: for a mortgage, I did. You can saw it, and 153 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: then it's just annoying because you have to like thaw 154 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: it at the bureaus where your loan. Your lender is 155 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: going to request to chut it, you know. But I 156 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: think it's totally worth it because why wouldn't you want 157 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: to have that extra layer of protection, you know, because 158 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: like even opening a cell phone, you can't do that 159 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: if you have a credit freeze nothing. 160 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: So a credit freeze to me is if you know 161 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: you're not getting anything for a while and something like 162 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: this has happened, you can freeze just to stop any activity. 163 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: Let's just say your stuff is in a dark web, 164 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: I'm freezing it for the next two months, no one 165 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: is gonna and then after that, if you don't want 166 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: the issue, like Mandy said, the thaw and freeze, saw 167 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: and freeze, you can get like a lifeblock or some 168 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: similar type of company where before anything happens, you know, 169 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: you get the text or the call. 170 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: You just have to prove. 171 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: And so those two things honestly, since then, you know, 172 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: Jerell's identity stopped being stolen and I never had my 173 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: identity stolen. But I signed up because I was like, well, 174 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: we're here now, because you could do like a family plan, 175 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: and so my identity has never been stolen, which is 176 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: you know, there have been things on there. They're like, 177 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: I don't recognize this, and I realized, like, oh, the 178 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: company sometimes has a different working name than a doing 179 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: business name, and I'm like, ah, that was me. 180 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 1: Oh God, I've been there. I'm like, who, I would 181 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: never spend that much. Meanwhile, it's like, yeah, the little 182 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: those four am Instagram scrolls. They always get me with 183 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: their kids' shoes ads. Oh man, what else do I was, Oh, 184 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: there's something else? So oh. A friend of a friend 185 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: recently lost eight thousand dollars right before Christmas, right before 186 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: the holiday season through like it was a phone called 187 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: tech scam. And so it started with text messages from 188 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: her bank. It was City Bank texting her and it 189 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: looked really legit, and then they escalated to calling her 190 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: and we're so convincing that she ended up giving her 191 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: account information over the phone, and then they drained her 192 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: not her, and it was her checking account, which is 193 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: really painful, you know, because with your checking account it's 194 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: sometimes harder to get those funds back. And it was 195 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: a Zell or Sorry, she didn't give them account information, 196 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: she zelled them. She zeld them. And if you guys 197 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: know anything about Zell, one of the pieces of controversy 198 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: is that you know you go through these steps when 199 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: when you send a transfer where they're like be sure 200 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: you know this person because if you don't, we are 201 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: not covering you because if it's you who hits the 202 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: submit button and you know what you're doing, like, we 203 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: are not liable libable, we're not liable for funds that 204 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: you lose. So she was I think she's still fighting 205 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: to maybe get that eight grand back. But she's like 206 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: a single mom, and you know, it's a lot of 207 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: money to lose. So if they're asking you for zell, 208 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: you deserve to be asking for every ounce of proof, 209 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: and banks probably will not be doing that. I would 210 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: just say that first and foremost. And then she ended up. 211 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: I think something struck her as and then she called 212 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: City herself and they're like, oh no, oh no. So 213 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: if they're if they're saying that they're from City, don't 214 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: bother about inconveniencing them, Like, don't worry about that, you know, 215 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: hang up, say cool, you can call me back before 216 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: they want this eight grand and call your own number directly. 217 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 3: That's the key. 218 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 2: One of the women that we know, I think her 219 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: name is Shannon. She lost her house down payment because 220 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: they have the scam where you know when you make 221 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: the transfer like the wire transfer when you're purchasing at home, 222 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: and so what they'll do is they'll they'll send you 223 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: a fake bank like, hey, I know we said this 224 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: is the wire number. This is actually the updated wire number. 225 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: She did not know because it looked official. Because what 226 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: they do is they like mimic what your bank sends, 227 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: and she sent it, and wires are notorious and once 228 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: it's gone is gone. They had me social because you know, 229 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: I bought my house cash five hundred and twenty thousand 230 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: dollars that can't go to the So what I did 231 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: was I'm mosy my way on down to the bank 232 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: and said look me and and that's when we did 233 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: the wire on the phone. Like so the key with 234 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: that is always, always always. I didn't call the number 235 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: that was on the paper when we're making the transfer. 236 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: If I think I had the money and like Ally 237 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: or something like that and I was transferred to like 238 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: their bank was like Wells FARG or whatever that like 239 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: I call. I go to the Ally website and called 240 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 2: that number there. I never the key with anybody. Sometimes 241 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: somebody is telling you something financial, even if it seems 242 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: up to I don't like, I want to hang up 243 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 2: and I'm just going to call back because I'd rather 244 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: call back the official number, so I know for sure 245 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: that like, oh, this is who I'm speaking to, versus 246 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: like who is this? So that was key I was, 247 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: but I was still nervous because you know, you just 248 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: you just feel like you never know, you never know. 249 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 2: So thankfully, you know, like it all worked out, because 250 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: that would have been like you would have seen a 251 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: weeping willow of a tiffany, like I love that. 252 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: And when it's wired and it's gone, you know it's 253 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: in the Canaries or you know, some other country and 254 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: you can't get that back. Man, what else? Two factory 255 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: authentication is huge for any accounts that you have, because 256 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: I feel like you break into my Gmail, you have 257 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: my life, you know everything about me. So two factor authentication, 258 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: these these basic practices. But I'm glad at least that 259 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: your like spidy sense has perked up enough to ask, 260 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: because that is wild and credit monitoring. You can with 261 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: your credit card. It's smarter to just, you know, in general, 262 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: buy big things with your credit card or or use 263 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: your credit card for most purchases if you know you 264 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: can do that responsibly, because you do have Most credit 265 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: cards offer zero dollar fraud liability, so if there is 266 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: fraud and it's on your credit card, then they will 267 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: cover it, you know, no questions ask, whereas with your 268 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: debit card, some of them have limits on how much 269 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: they'll cover or limits on you have to catch it 270 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: and report it within a certain timeframe like thirty to 271 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 1: sixty days, and if you don't, then there's less of 272 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: a chance that they'll be able to recover the funds 273 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: for you. So that's why there's like a bit of 274 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: a case for using credit versus debit for any big, 275 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: you know, purchases and things like that. But yes, stay vigilant, y'all, 276 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: stay woke. Two factor authenticate, look up the email addresses, 277 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: call them directly. That's our last that's a good summary, 278 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: summarized summaration. I can't talk summation, recap of our of 279 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: our of our advice. We're really really smart, trust us. Okay, cool, 280 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: Let's take a break. It's like I'm gonna get the 281 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: next one. Manny's stop, get down. 282 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 2: We take a break, RUSSA, pay some bills and be 283 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: right back in blank. 284 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: So we've got somebody name. Do we want to use 285 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: her name? Because what does she doys want that to 286 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: be her name? 287 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: She should have used a pseudonym Isabella. Let's go with Isabella. 288 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: That's my okay, Isabella. 289 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: So Isabella says, Hey, Mandy and Tiffany, I recently found 290 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: her show. 291 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: And I've been obsessed. We love that Isabella. 292 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 2: My partner and I have a goal of buying a 293 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: house in five years. I have and HYSSA. But when 294 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: I'm doing my research or what is the best place 295 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: to save, the best way to save for a down payment, 296 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 2: I've been getting overwhelmed with all of these ways to save. 297 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: Should I be using an HSA, HYSA investment or open 298 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: ACD account? Currently working on paying down my loans and 299 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: credit card debt while building an emergency fund. Once I 300 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: get all of these things taken care of and debt free, 301 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: my goals will start saving toward a future home. 302 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, advance Love you girls. 303 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: Ea Sabla all right, okay, So high yield savings account 304 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: is hyssay. I mean the good news is that high 305 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: yield savings accounts are actually high yield again because the 306 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: FED has been raising rates. I think I'm more up 307 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: to like over two percent in online only banks. Yeah, 308 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: two whole pennies, yes, one hundred dollars yep or one dollar. 309 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 310 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, so it's been I mean, you got. 311 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: Five years, which is a long time horizon. So the 312 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: good news is that you do have these other options 313 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: you could you know, there could be a case for 314 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: a semi aggressive ish investment account to save for that 315 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: to invest for that house. You do have to look 316 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: at the economy, of course. I mean, if you were 317 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: going to drop money into an investment account, would now 318 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: be the worst time? No, it depends on what happens 319 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: in the rest of the year. But the market has 320 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: gone down, down, down, down, downtowntown, So there could be 321 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: the expectation that you could put some money in there 322 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: and then if you weather the recession that's coming, that 323 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: it would grow five years from now. History would tell 324 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: you that that is probably the case. But you know, 325 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: I feel uncomfortable predicting the future. So there's that. So 326 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: it depends on like your level of risk, you know, 327 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: uh a version are you or risk tolerance? Can you 328 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: handle the idea that you may lose some money if 329 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: you sink it into investment account or do you want 330 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: to know that every penny you sock away will remain there? Yeah, 331 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: And if that's the case, then a CD could definitely 332 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: be a nice little alternative. With the CD, you do 333 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: have to lock up your money for a certain amount 334 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: of time, but in return for locking it up, they 335 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: will give you a much higher interest rate than what 336 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: you make it from, even the high yield savings accounts. 337 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's definitely an option to what do you think? 338 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: Well, for sure, the number one thing, Isabella is that 339 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: you want to make sure that wherever you're checking is 340 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: this money ain't because Lord knows, if you're like me 341 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: at Target like ooh, checking is like sis, now you 342 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: know you don't have it. Savings is like, well we 343 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: have it, girl, And then you petch a finger on 344 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: the button and transfer from checking the savings and in 345 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: two point two seconds you have your money available. So 346 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: that's number one for Isabella or anyone listening. Any money 347 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: that you want to have saved. You have to make 348 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: your money inconvenient, because inconvenient money gets saved, So that's 349 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: first and foremost, And a highyield savings account is inconvenient 350 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: as long as you don't have a checking account at 351 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: that same bank. Investment account definitely inconvenient. That means it's 352 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: not super liquid and a CD is definitely inconvenient if 353 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: it was me. But here's the thing that I'm reading 354 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 2: in this is she wants to pay off her credit 355 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 2: card debt. 356 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: So here's the here's the thing. 357 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: Because of the way the market is, I mean, things 358 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: are down like woof, like the market is down bad. 359 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: But as Mandy said, it doesn't ever stay down bad. 360 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: It has yet to stay down in history. But then again, 361 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: we haven't had a pandemic in one hundred years, so 362 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 2: we don't know. 363 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: If it was me. 364 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 2: I don't know about you, Isabella, because you know, I 365 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: can't give you investment advice. But if it was me, 366 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 2: I probably would be putting some in an investment account 367 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: and then some in either high yield savings or a 368 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: CD because I would want to try my luck. 369 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 3: A little bit. 370 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: Like let's just say if I was aside, if I'm 371 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 2: paying off my credit card debt, I told myself, I'm 372 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: gonna save like, say, you know, I don't know, three 373 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: hundred dollars a month towards the house. I might do 374 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: like a hundred in my investment account or a one 375 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: to fifty, no more than that, and then the other 376 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: one fifty in either like you know, in a high 377 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: your savings and then save up enough until, like you know, 378 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: had enough to put like a good amount into a 379 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 2: CD for like a year or two years, whatever, you know, whatever, 380 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: whatever length of CD that you're looking for. The longer 381 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 2: the length of CD, the more money that they will 382 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: pay you an interest. 383 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 3: That's probably what I would do. It's a mix of 384 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: the two if it was me. 385 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 2: Because I cannot give you financial I cannot give you 386 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: investment advice. I'm talking about Tiffany. Yeah, but I will 387 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: say this, I don't know how much your what your 388 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 2: interest rate on your credit card debt is. If the 389 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: interest on your credit card debt is double digits, then. 390 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 3: You need to double down on that. 391 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: If the interest is under double digits, then I would 392 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 2: be saving for the house at the same time as 393 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 2: paying off my credit card debt. Because you basically have 394 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: to say, ask yourself, will the cost of the credit 395 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 2: card debt, meaning the interest, wipe out any returns that 396 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: you might get on your investment, because on average, you know, 397 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: you're looking at a ten percent return annually on investments. 398 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: I mean, some years you'll get more than ten, some 399 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: years less than ten, but it'll average out to be 400 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: about ten So if your credit cards cost you more 401 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 2: than ten, even if the market gives you ten, the 402 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 2: credit card debt will credit card interest rate will wipe 403 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: that way those gains. I hope that makes sense. So 404 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 2: if your credit card debt interest rate is twenty percent 405 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: thirty percent, pay that off, do not pass go, do 406 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: not collect two hundred dollars. If it's eight percent, nine percent, 407 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: six percent, seven percent, I'll be doing both credit card 408 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: debt and and setting aside for the house. And when 409 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: I say set aside for a house, I mean like investing, 410 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 2: so that way I could take advantage of these these 411 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 2: of the market being down. But that's about with Tiffany, 412 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 2: not if I was Isabella, because they Devella got to 413 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: the side for herself. 414 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 3: You see see what I did there? 415 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, assue me. I mean, the more I think about it, 416 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: I feel like because she wants to build up her 417 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: emergency fund too. I think OHIL savings accounts a great 418 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: place for an emergency fund. It is, like Tiffany said, 419 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: harder to get to, but it's still you're able to 420 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: get to it, you know, because it's supposed to be 421 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: really easy to get to. And if you wanted that 422 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: separation I like the separation of accounts for your goal. 423 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: So if you wanted that separation for your your down 424 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: payment fund, then you've got five years or more. So 425 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: open that CD, you know, get a long term CD. 426 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: You can even do. You can google and you'll probably 427 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: find an old article that I edited at Magnify Money 428 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: on how to do a CD ladder, because I'll never 429 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: forget it is the labor of love. So you know, 430 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: if you don't like the idea of getting like a 431 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: five year CD and putting everything in there, you could, 432 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, kind of stagger it so you can get 433 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: a twelve month CD and then like an eighteen month 434 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: and a twenty four month and like, you know, work 435 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: your way up. But I like that. It's it's really 436 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: hard to get to and it's your home fund, and 437 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: you know, when you can choose how much you want 438 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: to put into those CDs and just kind of set 439 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: them to the side, and they'll grow at a higher 440 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: rate than they would and your you know, your high 441 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: heeled savings. 442 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 3: I know, hopefully I know those. It's like that, That's 443 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: what I ask you, guys. 444 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, I know, basically what we're saying is there's 445 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: no wrong answer, as long as you make your money inconvenient. 446 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: Do a little bit of all of it. She's like, 447 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: just tell me the one thing to do. 448 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: Yes, It's like, oh, that's probably what I would do. 449 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: I probably would do a little mix. 450 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: Was helpful. 451 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: On the info, good luck on saving for the house though, 452 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: very exciting, and thank goodness you're not in a rush 453 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: because I don't know. This is a tough time to 454 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: buy it is. Should take a quick break and come 455 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: right back with another question. 456 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 2: We're going to do some Mulah questions money Honey, you're 457 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 2: gonna jump right in with Ronia as no. Well, Rona 458 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: La girl that you had three different letters to read, 459 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 2: ron Lass, enjoying your content as per usual. Quick question, 460 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: what hurts your credit score more? Lack of credit mix 461 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: or low available credit that affects the debt to income 462 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: ratio and porquet Why keep up the great word, ron La? 463 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: Great question. 464 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: Well, ron La, there are five composers to your credit score, right, 465 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: and so these are two of the components and they're 466 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: literally on the opposite ends. So credit mix is ten 467 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: percent of your score. So credit mix just means do 468 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: you have a mix of ways that you're borrowing and 469 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: paying back money. So one of the ways is revolving debt. 470 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: That's basically credit card debt. You know you paid off, 471 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: you could use it again, paid off, use it again. 472 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 2: There's also. 473 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: It's a loan, but I forget the way, like the no, 474 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: what how does installment? 475 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: And yeah, installment loans. 476 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: So that's just like you know, I have a student 477 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 2: loan that or I've got a car note and then 478 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 2: I paid every month until it pays off. Right, So 479 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: they like to see a credit mix. And here's the 480 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: reason why. Let's just say you say, like Mandy says, no, 481 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 2: let's do me because I'm not a good cook. Let's 482 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: just say I'm like, well, I'm a good cook. And 483 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, you're like, man, it said what you make girl? 484 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 2: I was like. 485 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: Spaghetti? You know, like what else? Girl? You know some 486 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 3: other pasts of this, And it's like, girl, you're read 487 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: a good cook. 488 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: You're good at noodles, right, because it doesn't show that 489 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 2: I have a wide range of experience and doing a 490 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: wide range of dishes, So I'm not really a good cook. 491 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 2: The same thing for your credit if you only have 492 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I have five different credit cards. It's 493 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: like Okay, great, you're good at revolving debt, not necessarily 494 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: other types of way to borrow and pay back. 495 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 3: Okay, but that's only ten percent. 496 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: You don't have to do anything there except for live 497 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 2: a little longer, right as somebody's grandma will say, you 498 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 2: just got a live child, because as you get older 499 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: you will incorporate naturally different types of debts. 500 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: That's ten percent. 501 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 2: Now thirty percent is you're basically amounts old, you know, 502 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 2: meaning how much When you said how much credit do 503 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 2: you have available? That's basically amount's old, meaning what you 504 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: could borrow from what you have borrowed. That's huge, and 505 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 2: that's usually the thing that's taking people score because thirty 506 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: five percent is like payment history, meaning like do you 507 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: pay off every month until you pay off in full? 508 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: That's great, but you know, people don't realize that even 509 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: if you're making your monthly payments on time, if you 510 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 2: keep high balances in relation to your limits, then you're 511 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: taking your score. Ideally, if you want to raise your score, 512 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 2: you want to be under fifteen ten percent, meaning if 513 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 2: you have one hundred dollars limit on your card, no 514 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: more than five ten dollars fifteen ten dollars on your 515 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: on your card. You know, if you want to maintain 516 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: your score, you could stay at about the thirty percent market 517 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: and you'll be fine. And so the reason why it's 518 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: it's more that I suspect credit bureaus think it's more important. 519 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: It's because you know, if you owe too much, then 520 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 2: you then you you are more likely to default and 521 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: not pay people back, versus if you have a variety 522 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: of people that you owe, you know, the credit mix, 523 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: and so like owing too much in relationship to what 524 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: you could borrow put you in a really dangerous space 525 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: that if you lose your job, if you have some 526 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: sort of crisis that comes up, that you're likely to 527 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: not be able to pay anybody back. So Ramlaw hope 528 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 2: that's help anything, Mandy that I missed That I missed one. 529 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, it was really hard to keep my credit 530 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: utilization low early when I was remember when I was younger, 531 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: because my limits were so low and I didn't really 532 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: know how to use cards yet. But that gets easier 533 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: the higher your limits are. And also I will say, 534 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: if you have a lot of revolving credit card debt 535 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: and it's tanking your score because it's like high in 536 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: relation to your available limit. Then maybe it's you could 537 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: look into a personal loan because like a debt consolidation loan, 538 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: because a debt consolidation loan is not revolving, that's an 539 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: installment loan. It's a fixed like you have fixed payments. 540 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: You're going to pay it off a certain you know, 541 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: after a certain period of time. So it helps you 542 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: in two ways, Like it will immediately lower your the 543 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: balance that you're revolving on credit cards, and then it 544 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: also gives you that mix of different kinds of credit. 545 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: But that's of course, like you have to look at 546 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: your own situation and you know, to like compare credit 547 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: card APR rates, like how expensive is your credit debt 548 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: versus you know, a debt consolidation loan and what rate 549 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: you can get and then actually pay that loan off 550 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: because like some people get debt consolidation loans, you paid 551 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: on your credit cards and then you're like, oh, I'm 552 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: debt free, but no, you're not debt free. Yeah, good, good, good, 553 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: solid question. 554 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 3: Yes, keep them questions coming. What do we have next? Mandy? 555 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: All right? Number two a question from listener Ell, who 556 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: sent us an email. Okay, Elle says, hey, Madian Tiffany. 557 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: I am a home owning single, forty something with no kids. 558 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: I have a decent job with a good income of 559 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: about ninety thousand dollars a year. Prior to this year, 560 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: I was a public school teacher and I just started 561 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: and I decided. I decided when I started the new 562 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: job to keep living as if my salary hadn't changed much. 563 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 2: Oh. 564 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: I love that I have money automatically deposited into specific 565 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: savings accounts, but my emergency account took a hit when 566 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: I had to replace my AC unit earlier this year, 567 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: so unfortunately, all my accounts are in a building stage. 568 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, I own a home, and ideally I'd 569 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: like to own a couple of homes, but I think 570 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: it'll take me so long to build enough income to 571 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: afford another one that I don't want to wait. My 572 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: alternative is to sell the house I currently own and 573 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: rent a place wherever I want, no longer tied to 574 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: any one specific location. But I'm afraid that letting go 575 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: of this house will be a big mistake, and that 576 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: renting will open me up to a vulnerability that I 577 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: haven't experienced. How do I know if selling my home 578 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: is right? For me. Thank you all. 579 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 3: That's interesting. 580 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: Okay, So she's like wanting to potentially sell her home 581 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: move into a rental so that she has income to 582 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: buy another couple of homes. 583 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 3: Yes, and so like. 584 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: I'm just listening to reading her ps about like her 585 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: I guess her house has flooded since then, And Susan 586 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: inspired to send this letter after listening to me purchasing 587 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: a condo and wanted to be a rich auntie. She's like, 588 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 2: I want that too, because it just add some more context. 589 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so. 590 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: Well, let me take a step back, back back, So 591 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 2: what are you thinking, Mandy, Like, if you take a 592 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: step back, like, I mean. 593 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: I feel like renting. I'm trying to follow her thought process. 594 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: I guess what she's thinking is if I rent a place, 595 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: it'll be cheaper than maybe the cost of a home, 596 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: and I can save more for a new property. And 597 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: maybe there's so much equity in her home that she has. 598 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: I'm wondering does she need to sell it or could 599 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: she use like a home equity loan girl? Okay, good, 600 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: go good, because I'm like, I'm trying to let pieces together. Yeah, 601 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: if you if you want to leverage the equity in 602 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: your home to then purchase a second property. You know 603 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: a lot of ways that people do that is you 604 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: can take out a home equity loan and then use 605 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: that that loan as a down payment, you know, on 606 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: your next property. I mean, and I'm assuming you'd want 607 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: to like rent out that other property, which can be 608 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: a great source of additional income. So I'm like, I 609 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm more opposed to like selling the not 610 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: a pose, but like I'm a little like, take a 611 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: pause about selling the house and maybe see if you can, yeah, 612 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: leverage that loan, a home equity loan, to to have 613 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: to have the funds to buy another property. 614 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: Because if you l which is itself like you did 615 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: purchase your home before twenty and nineteen, you likely have 616 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: a lot of equity because remember the houses, the prices 617 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: with the they dove run them up, growing you in Florida, 618 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: I know, they ran your prices up, meaning that you 619 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: have a lot more like almost unnatural equity. Even though 620 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 2: home prices have come down, it's only like the new ones, 621 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: you know, like not like the houses that were brought 622 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: prior to twenty nineteen. They got their normal boost plus 623 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: a supercharge boost, you know, So I just say all 624 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: that to say that, like, you probably have equity in 625 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: this home. And ultimately, when we're making decisions and I'm 626 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: in this space now thinking to myself, like do I 627 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: want to get this kinda? 628 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 3: What do I want to do? 629 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: YadA YadA yadda, that you have to ask yourself. Money 630 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: is supposed to do what's best for you. You are 631 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: not supposed to do what's best for money. Talking to 632 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,479 Speaker 2: me and you L, because I almost missed out, I'm 633 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: purchasing this epic kind. 634 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 3: And we'll see it's still on the you know, still. 635 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: Negotiating because I wanted to get a super deal and 636 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: I underbid, and so because in my mind, I was 637 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: putting money before what Tiffany wanted, which is not always 638 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: a bad thing if you need to be in a 639 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: financial space, you know. But I'm okay, and it's like Tiffany, 640 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: what is it that you want for Tiffany? And I 641 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: want this place, so then I have to spend more money. 642 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 2: And so I'm just telling you L. I want you 643 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: to get clear on what does L want in general, 644 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: and so because you can potentially get that, and to 645 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,239 Speaker 2: Mandy's point, you might say, you know what, because I 646 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: know you have flooding or whatever. You might fix the house, 647 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: let someone else pay the mortgage and rent it out. 648 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: If you want to go rent someplace else by yourself, 649 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: you can still do that. You could own your home, 650 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: allow it to continue to go, you know, let the 651 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: streets pay, let them world they you know, and then 652 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: you can live wherever you want and your airbnb. You 653 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: can live that fancy life while because the truth of 654 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: the matter is, home ownership is still a cornerstone for 655 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: wealth in the US of A. You know, like cause 656 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: I'll give you an example. I my husband and I 657 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: am and you know, Drella and I we had purchased 658 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: this property from the city for ten thousand dollars. Okay, 659 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: it was a tear down basically, but we put one 660 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty thousand dollars into that house. We've just 661 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: now that was about the house less than five years ago. 662 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: Just sold it to his twin brother for basically three 663 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: hundred thousand, like two ninety five, three hundred thousand. So 664 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: you think to yourself, basically put one forty into it, 665 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 2: got back we doubled. That's what real estate can potentially, 666 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: not every market can potentially, do you know, or what 667 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: I could have done is I could have just rented 668 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: it out and pulled money out to do whatever I 669 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,239 Speaker 2: wanted to do. So I'm just saying that when you 670 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 2: have real estate, you have the opportunity for that level 671 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: of flexibility. 672 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 3: So before you're like throw the. 673 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: House out the window, I'm going to sell it, really 674 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: consider maybe I should just rent it now and see 675 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: what like this rent life outside of this looks like? 676 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm wondering too if like I get the 677 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: sense because she's so she was inspired by your story, 678 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: the rich Auntie life, and she's forty. No kids like 679 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: girl live in the dream, not the dream, but like 680 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: a different dream. Don't you wish you kind of had 681 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: it both ways? 682 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 3: Anyway? 683 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 684 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: And and like you got this new job, I really 685 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: want to know. I'm so fascinated by the public school 686 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: teacher like journey, and I want to know what your 687 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: new job is and how you got it because I'm 688 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: just fascinated anyway. But I'm like, if this is what 689 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: and you sound like you know renting what you like 690 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: is you're not no longer tied tied to just one place. 691 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: If you want some freedom, there's nothing stopping you from 692 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: renting for a while figuring out if you want to 693 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: buy a property somewhere else, if you want to live 694 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: in that property and just have some freedom. You mentioned 695 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: like the vulnerabilities that renting could open you up to, 696 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: and I don't know what vulnerabilities. They may be different 697 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: than owning a home. I don't like, Tiff, what do 698 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: you think like potential if you can't make your rent 699 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: payments but then you have. 700 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 2: A house, say like you know, with renting, I mean 701 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: to me, there's financial vulnerabilities because you don't really grow 702 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: anything right, and it's not necessary depending on because I mean, 703 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: for meet, I can almost scare in my head a 704 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: home owner said, it doesn't always it going to what 705 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: I know re meet, we knew like for example, in 706 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: New York that makes sense because the amount that you're 707 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: going to spend or pay, you know, because you know, 708 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 2: owning in New York, it actually probably makes more sense 709 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: in New York City to rent, you know, in a 710 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: long financial run. But you know, for many parts of 711 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: the country that's not necessarily true. So I just think 712 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: that like I want you to have both. I want 713 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: you to have like if you notice, even though I'm 714 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: leaning into my rich Auntie life. I'm still the budgetista. 715 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, right sold that house 716 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: double my money, you know, and was like, but I'm 717 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: still keeping the house I live in right now. Because 718 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: I put this house I bought for one eighty, put 719 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: one eighty into it, was that three sixty. 720 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 3: The house is now worth well over four fifty. But 721 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: I'm not selling it. 722 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 2: I'm keeping it because it's going to con you to 723 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: raise you know, my sister and her kids will live 724 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 2: in here, and I'll like likely live in the condo 725 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: that condo. You know. We're closing around the five hundred thousand, 726 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 2: you know, Mark, but I suspect, you know, in five 727 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: to ten years that place will be worth more. Although 728 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily going to be selling it, you know. 729 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 3: So I'm just. 730 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 2: Saying that, Like, as you are pursuing the softer rich 731 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 2: auntie life, it has to be fueled by financial wisdom, 732 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 2: you know, So just keep that in mind as you're 733 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 2: making these decisions that we're not just here like remember, 734 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 2: you're here to tell money what to do, but you 735 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 2: want to be telling your money what to do. Like, hey, money, 736 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 2: this is the life I want to live. Let me 737 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: be smart in these choices. 738 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 3: So, but welcome sis. It's cute over here. 739 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you so much for sending your question 740 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: into Oh crap was her name? El Ela el Ell? 741 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: That was really great of you to send a question. 742 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I want to know. My follow 743 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: up question is like, what was your curer pivot from 744 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: being a school teacher? Because I love that kind of 745 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: stuff and keep us posted all right on your journey 746 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: rich auntie journey. I feel like we have a lot 747 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: of rich and he's listening to Brown ambition. 748 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 3: What girl? 749 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: I is here for the rich aunt. 750 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 3: I'm new to this riche auntie life. Well you know, 751 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 3: well that's not true. I've been ever. 752 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 2: I made it, but I wasn't married with Johnty. So 753 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 2: now that I'm a single rich aunty, I'm like, what 754 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 2: y'all do out here? 755 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: Like? 756 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: What else should I be up to? I'm I think 757 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: I want to take up crocheting. I know that doesn't satisfancy, 758 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: but I'm like, what happens is that. 759 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: For Michelle Obama? It's good enough for anyone? 760 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 3: Okay, you know, I'm in my. 761 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm in my we got food at home stage, the 762 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: stage I'm in. Just ask my husband every day this week. 763 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, the menu will be leftovers. I love it 764 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: all right, y'all. Well, we'll see y'all next week. For 765 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: more Brown Ambition, send us your questions and we will 766 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: see y'all later. Talk to you later. Bye,