1 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Jaguars Broadcast Weekend review podcasts presented by 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: t I A. A. Bank J P. Shadrick with you 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: Today is Friday, March nineteenth, and a different feel on 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: this week's podcast. It's an early Bird Jaguars Reporters podcast. 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Ashlan Sullivan, John Ozan, and Brian Sexton joined me this 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: week and we'll wrap up a busy opening of the 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: NFL league year. Will review Urban Myers comments from Friday morning. 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: The Jags head coach spoke to the media. Plus our 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: focus today defensive players added in free agency. A few 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: of them have been in the building this week. Remember 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: to subscribe to the Jaguars Official podcast network. It's available 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: on Apple, iTunes, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: Give us a comment and leave a five star rating. 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Welcome in the entire crew and Ashland. You know, let's 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: start here because you've had one on one interaction with 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: all the guys that have been in the building this week. 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: And we'll get into those guys in here from Urban 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: coming up a little bit. But it seems like these 19 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: guys are focused and ready to go to work. Yeah, 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: it was interesting. I we had like kind of generic questions, 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: and then we asked a lot about them, but they 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: all said in their own way that the reason they 23 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: came to Jacksonville was one the fresh start, to kind 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: of start from the bottom and build this thing up 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: into the optimism, optimism around this team. They all said, 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: whatever city they were at, they felt it coming and 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: they saw all these people started talking about the Jaguars 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: and it was interesting to them, you know, starting to 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: take a hard look at this team. So it was funny. 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: I didn't ask really any of them. They all said 31 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: this on their own that the fresh start and the 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: optimism was something they wanted to be a part of, 33 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: no doubt. And John, it's it's a lot of new 34 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: faces around here. We'll get to some of them coming up. 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: But there was clearly a focus for the organization on 36 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: getting certain spots solidified so they don't have to be 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: forced into a move later. The goal pretty much team 38 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL is to go into the draft without 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: having the draft for need. That is always probably one 40 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: free agency for every team. But what struck you is 41 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: I get that everybody thought it was going to be 42 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: splash free agency for the Jaguars. It really showed you 43 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: that they looked at this roster and said, there are 44 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: spots that we have to get done. And I said 45 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: a couple of times on different shows of it. On 46 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: this week, they clearly, to me didn't want a repeat 47 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: of two thousand thirteen. I don't think they're thinking about 48 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: two thirteen. Remember how young this team was that year 49 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: when they last time there was a rebuild. There were 50 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: too many young, inexperienced rookies playing, and that prevents other 51 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: When there's youth at one spot, it hurts other spot. 52 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: This felt to me like, let's get experience everywhere. Let's 53 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: get experience that can play, and then we'll look forward 54 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: as we go along to making moves as we needed 55 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: in future years. But this was about getting the roster 56 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: where they could line up next year. Bryan, it's a 57 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: grown man's game, and grown men, especially grown men in 58 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: the trenches, are important. Yeah, you're exactly right. And John 59 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: touched on it. They didn't want to be too young there. 60 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: They were looking for guys that could not just line 61 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: up and play, but could make them better. And that's 62 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: really the interesting part here. Their approach was I don't 63 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: wanta say mid level guys, but guys like um, like 64 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: the safety from Los Angeles Rashaan, who not a lot 65 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: of people knew but wasn't ascending player coming into his 66 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: own I mean, Urban said this morning when we talked 67 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: to him that it was about finding value. That was 68 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: the key takeaway from his news conferences that they found 69 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: value and there were a lot of guys, whether you're 70 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: talking about jahad Ward or Roy Robertson Harris, they brought 71 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: in a lot of players who make them better, who 72 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: give them guys that they can count on, and who 73 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: make this roster better. And you know, we've seen it 74 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: over the years, you know, swinging for the fences and 75 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: bringing in the big dollar guys. It's rarely paid off 76 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: for the Jaguarrison. So I think this approach is fresh 77 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: and it has, at least in my opinion, it has 78 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: given them a real boost across the roster. Reference the 79 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer press conference from Friday. Let's hear from the 80 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: Jaguars head coach answering some free agency questions. He's used 81 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: to getting every recruit that's on their recruiting board at Florida, 82 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: Ohio State. A little different in the NFL in free agency. Yeah, 83 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: I remember it is I see that. I said, go 84 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: get him. I want that guy, you know, go get him. 85 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: In recruiting, we would have a recruiting meeting and identify 86 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: the best players, say go get him. Then all of 87 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: a sudden, I started finding out this guy cost twenty 88 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: eight million dollars. This guy cost and it was a 89 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: really I knew it to say I didn't know it. 90 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: Of course I knew it, but just the way you 91 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: put that puzzle together about here's your here's your cap space, 92 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: here's your choices. Can we take him? But we get 93 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: three of these guys to help. And so I imagine, 94 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: once you build your roster exactly the way you want it, 95 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: then you can take one guy and go get that, 96 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, the million dollar athlete. Uh we weren't. Were 97 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: not positioned to do that right now, you know, we're 98 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: just not. So it was a learning experience. I feel 99 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: great about it. As he said there, I mean, he 100 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: had an idea of what this would feel like, Ashland, 101 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: but then you have to go through it and realize, 102 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: oh wait a minute, yeah, million out the doors a 103 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: little different. Yeah. It was funny that I appreciated how 104 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: honest he was about this whole process, that oh wait, 105 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: this this wall, it does end at some point, and 106 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: he kept saying value, and I think that's Trent Bulky 107 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 1: and his ear preaching that need over value, and really 108 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: you never had to do that before you could get 109 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: whoever you wanted. In the NFL works a little differently, 110 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: So I thought it was very candid, Brian, that coach 111 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: Meyer was respectful enough to know that this is different 112 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: and he acknowledged that well. I thought it was so 113 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: interesting that he was talking essentially about paying players, which 114 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: for years has been the accusation in college athletics, and 115 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: here he is standing there making the statement, Yeah, it's 116 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: about the checkboard. It's about the check that you pay 117 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: these guys, and and people kept talking about all the 118 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: different reasons that these players would sign here, and Coach 119 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: Meyer brought all of that bear and explained all of 120 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: the different aspect of it. But in the end he said, 121 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: it comes down to will you write the check? Can 122 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: you find a number that fits your salary structure? And 123 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: the players happiness quotient right that you know, fits their 124 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: need what they believe their value is. And he just 125 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: kept saying it over and over it comes back the money, which, 126 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: again for a coach whose career was made Hall of 127 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: fame college career to stand there and say that it 128 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: was just an interesting contrast from from where he's been. 129 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: To sort of build on that point, he actually said, 130 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: I think somebody asked him at the end of the conference, 131 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: did you recruit? Were you ready with recruiting? And so 132 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: I was ready, but it really never came to that. 133 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: Everybody knows who Urban Meyer is, they know the name, 134 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: and they see the TV guy. I've been really impressed 135 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: in the video conferences we've we've had with him about 136 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: how candid and honest he is. He was very honest 137 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: and saying I was ready to recruit, but it really 138 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 1: doesn't come down to that. It comes down to the money. 139 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: And I thought that was fascinating hear from him today. Yeah, 140 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: I want to just build on that quick JP. I 141 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: had an impression of a college coach when he came here, 142 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: a guy who had been intimately involved in college football, 143 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: and college coaches tend to have more control because you're 144 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: dealing with younger men. So I think I anticipated when 145 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: he came in that he would be more guarded, that 146 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: he would be more control focused when he was standing 147 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: in front of the camera. I have been amazed at 148 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: how transparent and honest and forthcoming he is, and I 149 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: think that speaks to his comfort level. You know, he 150 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: understands there's things he's got to learn, and he says 151 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: that he understands that he's got a vision. He explains that, UM, 152 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: any notion that I had about college coach is gone. 153 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: This is a guy who's come in with an idea. 154 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: He's a football coach with a specific way he wants 155 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: to build a program. UM and I am very interested 156 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: excited about the way that he's interacted with all of us. 157 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: Let's hear again from urban Meyer and one of the 158 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: biggest priorities for his team and for Trent Vaulky and 159 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: free agency beefing up that defensive line and where they're 160 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: trying to get things back on track up front. On defense, 161 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: the number one need, and the regardless of the staff said, 162 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: the number one need to me is always going to 163 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: be build your defensive front. I expect our defense line 164 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: always be the top fourth in in in college. I 165 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: expected to be the top five in America in the NFL. 166 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: I've told our staff I expected to be the top 167 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: fourth at least now, and we should keep elevating that 168 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: top fourth in the league, and we felt it wasn't 169 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: There were some good pieces in place, and we attacked 170 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: it and very excited about the for defensive alignement, and 171 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: so that was the place we built. I believe we're 172 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: going to be in the top fourth in the league 173 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: on the defensive line. So they have it. They want 174 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: to be a top eight defensive line. Ryan, I'll start 175 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: with you here, what does that mean? How do you 176 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: qualify that? Well, the first thing is jp they've got 177 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: to get better at stopping to run. Since Marcel Darius 178 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: left the field in November of twenty nineteen, this football 179 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: team has been unable to stop the run. And so 180 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter that you've had ass rushers, you know, 181 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: high end pass rushers like Unique and got Way and 182 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. You haven't been able to get teams off 183 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: the field. And Malcolm Brown talked about that and Roy 184 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: Robertson Harris mentioned that as well. They've got to stop 185 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: the run. And so if they can do that, and 186 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: you bring in a guy like Malcolm Brown, Now this 187 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: is the guy who was a former first round pick. 188 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: He's a big wide body. I assume you'll pair him 189 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: with Taven Brian at the nose because I think this 190 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: really fits the one thing Brian has shown he can do, 191 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: and that is, you know, hold the line, stay the 192 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: point um, which is not a rein endorsement with Tavin Brian, 193 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: but you've got you've got some big bodies there. You've 194 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: got a rotation of some guys that played different roles. Um. 195 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: I thought it was telling. I asked you hod Ward 196 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: about his role today and he said, I'm just gonna 197 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 1: be me. It doesn't sound as if he says, well, 198 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm here to stop the run or I'm here to 199 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: rush the pass her. But you know that if they 200 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: can't stop the run, they can't become a top eight 201 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: defense Priorty number one. John upfront after the cool back. 202 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: Actually I laughed. He said his role is going to 203 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: be to be jahad Ward. I said, well, he ought 204 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: to be able to do that. I mean, yeah, that's 205 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: something so uh, I expect Von Hamilton's to be sharing 206 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: time with Malcolm Brown. But no matter who it is, 207 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: you can't have watched this team in the last two 208 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: or three years and not know that stopping the run 209 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: was the major thing they came in. Saw it immediately. 210 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: If there has been a theme for the first three 211 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: or four days of the league year. It has been 212 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: that Urban knows they had to build it from that 213 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: way back. That's what they did. I think Tyson Alo 214 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: is a huge part of that as well. If they 215 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: can stop the run all of a sudden, the pieces 216 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: they have behind it, JP, I think you and I 217 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: talked about it. If they get the run stop, then 218 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Josh Allen, d J Henderson, Griffin, 219 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: Chason Miles, Jack I just lifted guys Ashley that can 220 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: all make play, but they couldn't make him last year 221 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: because they couldn't get the run stop. If you get 222 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: the run stop, all those guys in the back that 223 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: we talked about, well, all of a sudden be a 224 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: lot better than they were last year. Yeah, you can 225 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: let them loose and just play freely enough to worry about. 226 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: One thing I will say is when Coach Meyer said 227 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: this morning, what is impression of the defensive line was 228 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: gonna be, and he said they're gonna be big, big guys. 229 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: I can attest to that. These guys walking into this 230 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: room today and yesterday, especially Malcolm Brown, these are big guys. 231 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he's definitely trying to take up space on 232 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: the defensive line, and it is very clear that was 233 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: the priority of this week was getting that figured out. 234 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: I know on our Reporters podcast on Monday, we were 235 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: a little hesitant about the defensive line. We all had 236 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: question marks around it, said you had to fix it. 237 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: Here on a Friday, I'm feeling pretty good about it 238 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: with all the pieces that they plugged in. I was 239 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: gonna build on one thing, one real quick thing, and 240 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: and John touched on how if you stop the run, 241 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: you make all the players that he mentioned, Josh Allen 242 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: and the players on the back end more efficient. You 243 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: give them more opportunity to let go and play their way. 244 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: But think about for a minute, if you have an offense, 245 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: and we all expect this offense to really start to 246 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: blossom here, Um, how much better is this defense with 247 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: a consistent quarterback in an offense that creates opportunities. And 248 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: I know we're talking defense today, but when you start 249 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: to look at a defense that played from behind all 250 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: year last year, that was another reason teams didn't have 251 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: to stop running because they had to lead. They were 252 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: trying to kill the clock. So there's a lot of 253 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: different things hoses that are filling this pool right now 254 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: um and one of them should be as we look 255 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: at the defense, is how this offense will impact it. 256 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: Final thought from urban Meyer for this podcast at least, 257 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: and it's a position group that got the Twitter Jaguar 258 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: folks up in arms early in the negotiation window because 259 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: there were names going other places, including Jon O Smith 260 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: and Hunter Henry, both of those to do England. We're 261 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: talking about tight end, of course, urban Meyer explaining the 262 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: addition that they made at that position and the status 263 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: of the tight end room that was a high priority. 264 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: We have two different style tight ends, you know. One 265 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: is a Y which is an on the line basically 266 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: an extension of your offense line. A very good blocker 267 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: but also very functional. In the past game, we identified 268 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: a guy had the top of list and that's Man Hurts, 269 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: and we got him. I've not metting yet, he's coming 270 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: in today, but that's we all are extremely excited about 271 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: him and he was exactly what we wanted, and uh, 272 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: we got him. The next one is the F and 273 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: that's the you know, the primary past catcher but also 274 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: a functional blocker. We have not addressed at Shaughnessy on 275 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: her you know, two years ago. Shaughnessy had a very 276 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: uh had a good year, had a lot of potential, 277 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: obviously had an a c L injury. He's been in 278 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: air training, he's I've got to know him, really enjoy 279 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: being around him. So we're counting on him. But we 280 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: have not finalized that piece of the puzzle yet. But 281 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: the the why part is, I can't feel we all 282 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: feel extremely strong about Man Hurts Man hurts his in. 283 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: He was in the building on Friday as well. I 284 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: think he was the only offensive player the first couple 285 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: of days here that was in the building and available 286 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: and looking forward to seeing what he can do in 287 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: the run game blocking. He said he can catch on 288 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: all that too. But he is here, and Urban Meyers 289 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: said that as well. He's here mainly as an inline blocker. 290 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: But John, they're still looking for a receiving threat down 291 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: the field. Where do they find it? Well, I would 292 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: expect that they may explore I don't know what tier 293 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: you'd be in free agency at this point. You think 294 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: they explore that uh zach Ertz thing. I believe it's 295 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: still sitting out there, so you don't know about that. 296 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: At some point, you can't get everything that you want 297 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: every free agency period. You can't go after every high 298 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: every high profile guy. Uh, the draft still exists, you know. 299 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we still haven't gotten to that point. Unless 300 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: I missed it, they packed no players in the draft yet, 301 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: so there's still a major, major talent acquisition period upcoming, 302 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: you know. And I guess I don't worry about that 303 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: position as much as a lot of people. I know 304 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: this team needs it. I expect it to be one, 305 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: if not to relatively high in the draft. They're gonna 306 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: build that room and it's still to come. I was 307 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: talking to Man Hurts, actually, he was our our last 308 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: interview of the day, and he was saying, how the 309 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: appreciation that Coach Meyer has for a blocking tight end. 310 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: He says, a lot of times it's almost like looked 311 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: down upon that you're the blocking tight end. But for 312 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: Coach Meyer to hype that up this morning and Matt 313 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: Rule actually called him the best blocking tight end in 314 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: the NFL. To have those guys, you know, talk highly 315 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: of him, he said, that means the world that Coach 316 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: Meyer believes in this and realizes it's a very important 317 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: part of the game. I mean it is. It's not 318 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: the most sexy thing in the world, but you need 319 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: a blocking tight end right now, you don't got one, 320 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: that's right. And obviously this organization, Brian we've talked about 321 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: this on shows before, has had that in the past. 322 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: Here they haven't had that in a little while though, 323 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: true superior blocking tight end. No, at these it's Marcedes. 324 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: And before that they had Kyle Brady Um And you know, 325 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: if if people remember Julius Thomas, I mean they swung 326 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: for the fences and made him the highest aid tight 327 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: end in football at the time, and and it was 328 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: a flame out. He did nothing. Um had a couple 329 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: of plays, but other than that, it didn't work. So 330 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: Tyler Bowen is the new tight ends coach and he 331 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: coached at Penn State. And the guy who most people 332 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: think is the second tight end in this draft, uh 333 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: Pat fryar muth Is. Uh is probably twenty five or 334 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: thirty three, or maybe he slides to forty five or 335 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: maybe the Jaguars go around, but they've got three picks 336 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: between twenty five and forty five, and he falls somewhere 337 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: in there. And he is a Gronkowski type. I mean, 338 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: you can't compare people to you know, the great players 339 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: in the game, but a big body, middle of the field, 340 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: guy who wins one on one battles if you if 341 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: you talk to people who have scouted him, so I 342 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: would think the draft is exactly where they're going young 343 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: tight ends. Uh And and the previous coaching staff and 344 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: UM personnel staff did a lot of research on tight 345 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,359 Speaker 1: ends a few years ago, and I recall a conversation 346 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: UM where their research showed that very few rookie tight 347 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: ends come in and have a huge impact. And if 348 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: you look at the kid from Iowa, uh and his 349 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: name escapes me, who went to Detroit. I mean you 350 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: can see he's he's made a couple of little plays 351 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: here and there, and he's still waiting for his breakout. 352 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: So I think, go grab one. You've got a reason, 353 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: You've got a connection. And they're awful big on connections. 354 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: If you've had a guy in your room before, and 355 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: Tyler Bowen has, I expect him to be high on 356 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: their list. Uh in the draft, which is starting April 357 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: twenty nine, John, you might want to write that down, 358 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: all right, I got it, I got it. Didn't put 359 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: that on the calendar because that's a little over a 360 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: month away. The full media availability with head coach Urban 361 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: Meyer and the players who are in the building Thursday 362 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: and Friday. 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A little banter is the word I 394 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: was looking for. Thank you, Ashlyn, I'm gonna go. Malcolm 395 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: Brown traded in from the Saints. We said earlier Urban 396 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: wanted big, big, big guys on the interior. Well, he 397 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: is six two three twenty played for Charlie Strong at Texas. 398 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: He's got the you know the connection. They're part of 399 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: two Super Bowl teams with the Patriots. So he has 400 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: a winning pedigree from an organization in the NFL, has 401 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,239 Speaker 1: the connection has the big body, uh, and he's a 402 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: big guy on the interior of the defense of line. 403 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: So this I think was a slam dunk for the 404 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: Jaguars as absolutely. And we we asked him about coming 405 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: from the Patriots in these winning programs and now you're 406 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: coming to, for lack of better tournament, a rebuild, and 407 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: he mentioned, I love being here from the ground up, 408 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: and I love that two years from now I get 409 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: to say that I was a part of this. And 410 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: I mentioned, you know, this is a pretty young locker room. 411 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: How are you going to share this experience and be 412 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: a leader? And He's like, I'm not the big raw 413 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: ra type of guy. I'm going to lead by example, 414 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: but I will say I'm a prime example of what 415 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: success can look like in the NFL. And he's really 416 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: looking forward to being one of the older guys on 417 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: this defensive line. The interior play was subpar last year, Brian, 418 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: and they needed a big body or two or three 419 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: on the interior, and Malcolm Brown, I think is going 420 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: to be right there in that mix. Yeah, if you 421 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: go back and look, and I think we're all working 422 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: in the assumption that we're going to see a lot 423 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: of zero technique, a nose tackle, head up on the 424 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: center this year, whether that means a three or four 425 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: or a hybrid. Uh, that big body in the middle 426 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: of the line. And I go back to the Steelers 427 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: in the late nineties with Joel Steed, who was I mean, 428 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: I think he and Malcolm Brown are copycat bodies you 429 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: couldn't move. Joel Steed he made even though he didn't 430 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: have the sacks or the tackles and wasn't the superstar 431 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: of that Steelers zone blitz defense that everybody remembers. With him, 432 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: he made everyone else's job easier because he created a 433 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: train rent in the middle of his opponent's offensive line. 434 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: When I look at Malcolm Brown, I think that's what 435 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: this guy's gonna do. I know that's why they drafted 436 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: him in New England. They didn't resign him because they 437 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: eventually let guys go up there. But this is a 438 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: guy who can hold the point. And whether it's Devon Hamilton, Entertainment, 439 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: Brian whoever is behind him, to have two big bodies 440 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: inside there, guys who can hold the point and wreck 441 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: things in the middle. But you've got to have it 442 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: if you want to make this defense. This hybrid this 443 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: three four work this for a statement, j V. He's 444 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: the most important player that got sweet Well period headline 445 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: without you know, and I get the Griffin's important, everybody's important. 446 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything about the other guy without this one, 447 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: I think, you know. I can't speak for the staff, 448 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: but I think without this one, the staff would be like, Okay, 449 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: who's anchor in the middle. This guy is a starting 450 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: NFL nose tackle who has done it. Started eight of 451 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: eighty nine games in his career. He started twenty nine 452 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: over the last three games. He he has been the 453 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: starting nose tackle wherever he's gone in the last three 454 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: or four years. This is the anchor in the middle. 455 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: They must stop the run. If you don't stop the run, 456 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, whoever they have on offense doesn't matter for 457 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: this team. He's the most important exhibition of the acquisition 458 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: of the week, and he's why people should feel good 459 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: about this class. There you go, there you okay, So Ashlen, 460 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: you get to follow this up with your selection Ray. 461 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: Shawn Jenkins is also very important. John. They're throwing on 462 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: this team with Jared Wilson in the backfield and Andrew 463 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: Wingard a so good. We'll take it at that. But 464 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: now with ray Sean Jenkins, who is a starting caliber 465 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: safety in the NFL from the Los Angeles Charters, I'm 466 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: feeling pretty good now about this secondary, along with Shack Griffin, 467 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: of course. And it was funny to go watch if 468 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: you haven't, whoever's listening to this podcast, go watch ray 469 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: Sean Jenkins miked up against the Jaguars and he is 470 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: a talker. It is interesting to watch and relive that game. 471 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: But yes, definitely a dynamic player, very much needed in 472 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: the secondary and other starter. I foresee him and Jared 473 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: Wilson taking over that backfield and it was absolutely a 474 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: needed position and this is a guy who's done it, 475 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: been successful at it, and I'm feeling much better about 476 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: the secondary now after this guy. And it's not a 477 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: huge thing, but it was a mid round draft pick, 478 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: and you know, he was a special teams players first 479 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: two years, couldn't crack the line up through some injuries. 480 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: Finally the last two years he's a regular starter and 481 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: took advantage of that opportunity really worked his way up. 482 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: And you know not that he would, but you know 483 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: he's not gonna take anything for granted because of the way. 484 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: He had to kind of fight and push and find 485 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: an opportunity and finally got one, and now he's paid 486 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: it off with a free agent contract. Brian, I I 487 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: like Jenkings a lot, his size and his length. Um 488 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: forget whatever he has or hasn't done in his career. 489 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: This is a rising prospect and the Jaguars have identified 490 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: him as a guy who can fit into what they 491 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: want to do. Shelenna, want to correct you. There isn't 492 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: gonna be Jared Wilson. It's gonna be Daniel Thomas. They 493 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: got that young kid from last year who played lights 494 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: out for the month that he was on the field, 495 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: and I think that the Thomas Jenkins combination has the 496 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: opportunity to be really, really, really good. He's going to 497 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: be the best player in this now. Uh, I'm to 498 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: say about everybody. To me, this signing sort of defines 499 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: the class, meaning they could have theoretically waited. There are 500 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: stafeties available in the draft. They could have theoretically drafted 501 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: this spot and said, Okay, we're gonna build. Remember, I 502 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: hate to keep comparing it to the old regime, but 503 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: a lot of these listeners have seen how it was built. Before. 504 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: If he hasn't thirteen they went out and got Evans 505 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: and a sip. Remember I think that was thirteen. Well, 506 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: you start two kids back there, you started two kids 507 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 1: back there, and you have a lot of rookie mistake. Well, 508 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that's sort of kept everything from 509 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: looking right and it was a mess, and they don't 510 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: want that. So this sort of defines that. In a sense, 511 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: you're sort of redrafting what this regime doesn't like about 512 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: what was here. This is the quintessential example of that. 513 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: To me. The guy who can come in, he can 514 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: be solid. I don't know if he's a Pro Bowl guy, 515 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: but you know what you're gonna get from this guy. 516 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna get consistency. He's gonna be able to tell 517 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: other players where to go. He's seen things before. I 518 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: like it because it defines this class to me. All right, Brian, 519 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: get on with yours. Well, I took Shack Griffin and 520 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: I love the fact that Griffin and Jenkins had this 521 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: chemistry from their days together in St. Petersburg. This is 522 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: another rising player, right, I mean, he's paid near the 523 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: top of the market. What is the seventh six among cornerbacks? Right? Now, so, 524 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: I mean he looks like a first round pick, but 525 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: I think this was a guy who came in He 526 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: was quite a third round pick of the Seahawks and 527 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: and grew into this number one corner role. But I 528 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: wrote down on my notes as I was watching his 529 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: press conference, this kid gets it, you know, whether he 530 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: learned it from the legion of Boom on their way 531 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: out over the last couple of years playing and eat 532 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: Carroll's program. He said, I don't care about number one. 533 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: I don't care about getting all the accolades. I care 534 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: about coming in here and creating something that has our 535 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: own signature to it. Right. He was humble, he was confident, 536 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: which is a unique combination to be able to pay 537 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: it together. But this is a young leader and um 538 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: and send player again like Jenkins, though because he played 539 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,479 Speaker 1: in Seattle, he had a lot more eyes on him 540 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: and more people know him. Uh flips the hits, turns 541 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: and runs and he checks all the boxes to hide 542 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: the length. Um. But there was something about him, something 543 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: about coming home, coming into a situation where people are 544 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: going to look to him to be more than just 545 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: a good player, but the leader. And something I heard 546 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: from all of these players is they didn't worry about 547 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: the fact that Jaguars had the worst record in football. 548 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: They were impressed with the opportunity to come in and 549 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: be a part of something that, to a man, they 550 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: feel is a virtual certainty that this team is gonna win. 551 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: And and Griffin was the first one out of the gate, 552 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: and I just every player afterwards said nearly the same 553 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: thing in their own words. So I'm excited about this 554 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: kid because it gives them a base to build on 555 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: at one of the most important positions on the defense, 556 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: one of the most important positions on the field, the corner. 557 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: So now they have a duo over there on the 558 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: outside at least if C. J. Henderson can stay out 559 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: there on the field and healthy. And now you have 560 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: Shack Griffin on the other side and Herndon most likely 561 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: inside at nicol that's not a bad trio of corners. Yeah, 562 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: and don't forget about Sidney Jones. Kich Meyer was was 563 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: on this morning and spoke about that that now cornerback room. 564 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: He feels really good about that. And before you were 565 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: all the edition with Shaq Griffin makes it feel like 566 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: you have that veteran presence now and that was what 567 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: was lacking is the leadership, and I feel like without him, 568 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: you're putting so much pressure on C. J. Henderson's shoulders. 569 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: You know, you kept saying, Okay, well, first round draft pick. 570 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: You know he's gonna lock it down, and he's coming 571 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: back from a pretty significant injury. And this is only 572 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: now going into a second season in the NFL. I 573 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: didn't feel good about that, but now I do, knowing 574 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: that you have that veteran presence on the other side. 575 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: What about Griffin John He makes what was a a 576 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: uncertain position maybe the best on the defense. You know 577 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: this is a deep position. Now, everybody, this is now 578 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden. You've got two guys who you 579 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: feel like athletically you have seen them be big time starters. 580 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: I'll ask you, guys, this, how great do you feel 581 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: if you're the coaching staff if for some reason, either 582 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: Griffin or p J can't go for a month, Well, 583 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: you got Sidney Jones, who showed last year for six 584 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: games that he played at a high level. As long 585 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: as he's healthy, then you have Herndon, who Okay, if 586 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: he's your fourth guy, he's got two year starting experience. 587 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know Sari, you know if 588 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: he would to go into the season with him as 589 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: your number one outside guy. But in a pinch, all 590 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: of a sudden, that's a deep room. If you look 591 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: at the fourth guy and say he's got experience, I 592 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: feel okay about him. Their top three, I think it's 593 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: really really good. All right, John, take us home with 594 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: your selection. Well, this is sentimental. I'm going with Tyson 595 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: Aloa because if you've been around the guy, you know, 596 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: if I was making a list, Brian, he can probably 597 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: speak to this and j P think you knew him 598 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: as well. If I was making a list of former 599 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: Jaguars that I would be happy to see walk through 600 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: the door. Now, obviously Fred and Jimmy, you know some 601 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: of the great players that we all know from the nineties, 602 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: but since that nineties group, if I was making a 603 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: list of guys, boy, I would be happy to see 604 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: this guy again. Tyson might be the number one guy 605 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: in the lip. He is a fantastic human being. Beyond that, 606 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: and I think most Jaguars fans have been around feel 607 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: that same way. Beyond that, he's exactly what you need 608 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: right now. This defensive line must be stouter. He makes 609 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: you stout. He can do everything that you wanted to 610 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: do in a pinch and amazing. He has missed four 611 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: games in eleven years, four games on the interior. He 612 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: is meant to play this sport crime well. And look, 613 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: people may forget that he showed up. That that was 614 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: back during the hold out hero where players didn't necessarily 615 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: come to camp on time, and Jack del Rio put 616 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: him in harm's way. He put him in against viny 617 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: Monaway in the Oklahoma drill. The day he got off 618 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: the airplane, he tore his PCL and never had it fit. 619 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: Has missed four games and it was bone on bone, 620 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm told at one point. So he lost a degree 621 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: of a flow siveness on the first day of practice 622 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: as a professional. And yet look at him all these 623 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: years later. Talk about vindicating the selection, and remember people 624 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: were really unhappy when they selected because they didn't take 625 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: the quarterback from Florida one, Tim Tebow, and there was 626 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: a lot of ants, how could you pass on Tebow 627 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: for some guy from the Pac ten No one knows 628 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: his name, but I'll never forget. The next weekend was 629 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: the j Fund Golf Tournament, and I was sitting with 630 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: Bill Polian at breakfast who you know well, John, And 631 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: he said he thought that all Wala might have been 632 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: the safest pit in the first round of the draft. 633 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: And you know what, all these years later, eleven years later, 634 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: he's probably right because here's Lalla still playing. Yeah, and 635 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: going to John's point, Ashton, you need a veteran presence 636 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: in a room, and they really didn't have that after 637 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: Clay has left out right, and you, frankly just needed 638 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: more bodies. I mean, we're going through the list, and 639 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: now that you've seen all these guys coming in, you 640 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: now have backups to backups, and frankly the for you, 641 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: you didn't have enough guys and now you have enough 642 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: bodies and big bodies to make this work. And I'm 643 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: really excited to meet him. With everything that you guys 644 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: just shared, I've heard nothing but great things. Fantastic. Now 645 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: the four games he missed there was one last season 646 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 1: with Pittsburgh. He missed one game in eighteen. If I 647 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: remember right now, he missed two games in twenty sixteen, 648 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: his last year in Jacksonville. I think those were just 649 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: coaches decisions. I don't think he was injured that year, 650 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: if I remember right, What do you think I don't 651 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: I can't remember that. I think he was like an 652 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: extra guy on the sideline. And you're right, You're right, JP, 653 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: because he had a long string and unbroken string of appearances, 654 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: and that was the first time that it was broken. 655 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: And it was a shop because he wasn't unhealthy, but 656 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: they knew at that moment they were going to resign him, 657 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: and they were trying to get different guys into the lineup, 658 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: and so they put him on the sideline. I remember 659 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: talking to him afterwards, and he talked about how strange 660 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: it was to stand there and watched the game and 661 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: not be in uniform. And I just I can't underscore enough. 662 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: He took a lot of heat during his time here 663 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: for not being Tim Tebow. I mean not that he 664 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: played the same position, but because the Jaguars passed on 665 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: Tim to take Tyson. And he never let it get 666 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: to him. He never was bitter about it. H he 667 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: heard the complaints. Uh, he played through pain, played through 668 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: the knee injury. Um. This is one of the best 669 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: guys to ever come through the Jaguars locker room. It's 670 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: great to always coming back, but importantly on the field, 671 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: this is the guy you know it's not that he 672 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: was here before. Isn't the reason he's here. It's the 673 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: fact that Joe Colin knows that he can turn around 674 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: to Tyson and say, hey, go do this, and he'll 675 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: go do it. Joe knows the guy. I'm sure he 676 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: has an extremely high comfort of the different roles that 677 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: he can play. If the big end can't play, hey Tyson, 678 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: go play big end. If the nose can't play one day, 679 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: Hey Tyson, go in and man up and be the nose. 680 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: All right, coach, let's go do it. So it's the reliability, 681 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: it's the flexibility. He's exactly what you want when you're 682 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: building defensive line as a piece in the puzzle. There's 683 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: no better piece. As jahad Ward said today on Friday 684 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: at his press conference, Joe Cohen says, get off the 685 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: bleeping ball. Yeah, Tyson is gonna get often live dot Com. 686 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: You never know what you're gonna get. It's on the internet. 687 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: Everything's allowed on the internet, right it is, Uh, most things. Ashman, 688 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: well done, John Brian appreciate you guys. Will catch up 689 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: with you again next week and coming up next week 690 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: another week of the early waves of free agency. What 691 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: else might the Jaguars have up their sleeve. Maybe we'll 692 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: find out. 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