1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. If I said to you a week ago 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: at this time, you had to make a bet, is 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers going to be the starting quarterback for the 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Packers this upcoming season? You probably would have said, no, 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: he's not. We had reporters, We had Rob Damovsky been 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: covering the team for a couple of decades. He said 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: five five percent chance. You know, the Broncos were in 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: the mix, the Raiders in the mix. The Niners attempted 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: to make a trade for Aaron Rodgers. The Rams inquired 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers. This was a poorly kept secret. And 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: the Rams back in January inquired after the NFC title 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: game from what I'm told, and then yesterday Adam Schefter 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: because I just wanted information. All I wanted was how 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: did we get to this point? Because if you said 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: to me today, but then I've been in the minority, 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: who is the starting quarterback for the Packs opening weekend 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: this year? I would still say Aaron Rodgers. Because things 19 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: are quiet, remember what happened with Russell Wilson and the seahawnks. 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: Russ comes on the show, He's got something to say. 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Few things after that Ben, Yet sources saying Russ is 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: saying this he wants out. Here are the teams his 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: agent gave us the teams he could get traded to 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: Seattle eventually got around to talking about this. Everything's calmed 25 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: down right. Russ is going to be in Seattle this year. 26 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can smooth things over with 27 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and the Packers, but I will say this, 28 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: the quietness speaks volumes both sides right now. Now. The 29 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: media hasn't stopped because we're still looking for breadcrumbs here 30 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: like anything. But do I think Aaron Rodgers if you 31 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: said you got to bet, I would say Aaron Rodgers 32 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: is still the starting quarterback for the Packers this upcoming season. 33 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: Now last Friday, if you ask, I think I might 34 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: have said at the time, I just don't see him 35 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: being traded. That doesn't mean he can't be won't be. 36 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: But I know that both sides realized this is how 37 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: you win a championship. And maybe the Packers have to 38 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: walk back some things that they've done or said, and 39 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: then maybe Rogers has to do that. But you know, 40 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter, I think mischaracterized what he had a week 41 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: ago Thursday. This was a collection of information there. This 42 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: wasn't a breaking news story, but it was portrayed that way. Therefore, 43 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: we all went into the draft going Packers could trade 44 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers tonight, and then we started watching teams. Carolina 45 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: didn't take a quarterback, Denver didn't take a quarterback. The 46 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: Bears are trading up for a quarterback. Then we started 47 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: to speculate, Okay, well maybe you had to get certain 48 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: draft players for the Packers to go. If you get 49 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: Patrick Certen and you give us three first round picks, 50 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: then you got you got our interest here, you got 51 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: our attention. But it was framed as huge breaking news. 52 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: It was on the bottom line. And I'm watching NFL 53 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: Live when Cheft came on and he was reading off 54 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: his phone, and I thought, this is breaking news. Well, 55 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't breaking news. From the standpoint of if this 56 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: is an accumulation of information, this wasn't breaking news. And 57 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: I think if you're going to summarize the offseason, which 58 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: Adam was doing, then it wasn't. It wasn't characterized that way. Therefore, 59 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: I think we thought something was truly happening in the moment. 60 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: Here's Adam Schefter where he discusses the Aaron Rodgers report, 61 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: and I asked him, did you choose to drop the 62 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers news on draft night? That is actually that 63 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: is absolutely accurate, correct, But it wasn't something that you 64 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: got information about. No, okay, okay, no, there was nothing 65 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: that morning that came in and said to me, yeah, 66 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: he wants out. You should report this Like it was 67 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: going on all off season. You just keep hearing it, 68 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: and there was more and more talk, and now they're 69 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: starting to be on Rogers talking. I said, you know what, 70 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: this isn't gonna wait much longer. Let's just go. And 71 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: it just happened to be drafted. Because I wondered when 72 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: you said it didn't come from Rogers, didn't come from 73 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: the Packers, and it's being characterized differently. I was wondering, Okay, 74 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: you're not gonna tell me your source. You know, what 75 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: was the motive behind that? Yeah? Yeah, there's not a source. No, no, 76 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: I know, but I know that now. But we're just 77 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: finding this out right now. This I said this, I said, 78 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: you're on the NFL out. I said, I said it, 79 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I don't know. People want to 80 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: believe whatever they want to believe it was just an 81 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: accumulation of information throughout the course the entire off season. 82 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: The tweet in the headline were a little bit more inflammatory, 83 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: but you know, was this premeditated? Did he have information? 84 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: You know, speaking with Adam after the show, off the record, 85 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: we found out, you know that he wasn't going to 86 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland thinking that he's reporting Aaron Rodgers is going to 87 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: be traded. But I think once the Niner story got out, 88 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: then I think he decided that the time was right now. 89 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: It just wasn't a breaking news story that he had 90 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: new information because he said it was an accumulation of 91 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: information in the offseason and as fans and look, I'm 92 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 1: in the business obviously, and I know how these stories 93 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: are vetted at ESPN. If Adam is going to break something, 94 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: it has to go through the assignment desk. They have 95 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: to know, they have to be ready, and you know, 96 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: that's how you cover a story. Whenever we would break 97 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: a story, you had to go through the assignment desk. 98 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: And there were times when I would have a story 99 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: and they'd say, we need another source on this, and 100 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: then we wouldn't run that story. But Adam has built 101 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: up that cache Hell's credit where he could probably just say, look, 102 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: this is what I'm hearing and they sign off on it, 103 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: but they don't want to be blindsided. But I think 104 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: just trying to understand you got this information, when did 105 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: you decide that you needed or you had enough to 106 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: break this story? So three pm on Draft Day, and 107 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: that's what I was curious about. What was the new information? 108 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: And you have you know, the entire NFL media is there. 109 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: This is an offseason super bowl for the NFL media. 110 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: But that's all I was asking for yesterday was clarity, 111 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: give me the backstory. Here was Adam thinking he was 112 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: going to be scooped on the biggest story of the year, 113 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers was going to be traded wanted out 114 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 1: of Green Bay. I think we just talked about how 115 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: I questioned the timing of it and how it was framed. 116 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: I don't question Adam and his abilities. He's the best 117 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: at doing this, but I just wanted to know. That's 118 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: what I was trying to figure out. I was trying 119 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: to figure out what is the backstory and can he 120 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: help clarify that? And that's all that was yesterday. But 121 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: I think what you know, what we were trying to 122 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: figure out in the moment and as we went along, 123 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: because he said, look, that didn't come from Aaron Rodgers, 124 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: and it didn't come from the Packers. So that's what 125 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out here. But I don't 126 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: know where we are today right now, Friday morning, I 127 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: feel like I know less than I did a week ago, 128 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: because I still feel that Aaron Rodgers is going to 129 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: be the Packers starting quarterback. But nobody's talking. And I've 130 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: been in this is long enough to know when it's 131 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: quiet things are happening. Now that might be, hey, let's 132 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: not put it out there. We'll do it internally, we'll 133 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: do it professionally, and if you don't want to be here, 134 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: then we'll send you on your way. Like it could 135 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: be happening that way. I just get the feeling that 136 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: this has maybe there's a little more negotiation talking going 137 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: on behind the scenes, and maybe it's not Rogers and 138 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: the Packers, maybe it's his agent who's talking to the Packers. 139 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: But the Packers know, you want to win a Super 140 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: Bowl in the next two years, this is the best 141 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: way to go about it. And Aaron Rodgers knows if 142 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: he goes to Denver. He's not winning a Super Bowl, 143 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: not anytime soon. You're not even the best team in 144 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: your own division if he went to Denver. But understand 145 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: how this kind of explodes metastasize, because all of a sudden, 146 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: if you're a Bears fan, in a Lions fan of 147 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: Vikings fan and Aaron Rodgers maybe out of the conference, 148 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: out of the division, imagine if you're a Denver fan. 149 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: So this is how everybody jumped in on it because 150 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: it affected the entire NFL. Everybody who's thinking, Wow, who 151 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: could get Rogers? What do you have to give up 152 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: to get Rogers? Hey, we don't have to face Rogers 153 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: twice a year. Like everybody's has some stake in this. 154 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: All of a sudden you start to go, gosh, if 155 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: he goes to Denver, what's that mean? You could he 156 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: do what Peyton Manning did? Do they have enough talent there? 157 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: You know? Are the Raiders involved in this? What's that 158 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: mean for David Carr, Derek Carr? Like, those were the 159 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: things that we're processing here in the moment. I just 160 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: think it was framed incorrectly, that's all. And then it exploded, 161 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: and look, I think we wish for stories like this. 162 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: You want breaking news, you want trades, we want action. 163 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: This was going to be like, Wow, this is an 164 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: incredible draft, all this talent, all these quarterbacks. The Niners 165 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: are going up, who are they taking? Aaron Rodgers is 166 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: going to be traded? And we had all those other things. 167 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: We just didn't have Aaron Rodgers traded. But if something's 168 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: going to happen, it's not going to happen in the 169 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: next two weeks, next three weeks. It'll probably be less 170 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: than a month from now. We're going to find out. Plus, 171 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: here's another thing. We haven't seen Jordan Love be the 172 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: number one quarterback play in a game. If all of 173 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: a sudden Green Bay realizes, hey we got something here, 174 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 1: or you know, we put him into live action, he 175 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: played pretty well. You know, that's a different twist to this. Yeah, Paul, 176 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't even compare to like Garoppolo with Tom Brady. 177 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: They took Garoppolo and he actually got in three ball 178 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: games and played well. When Brady suspended, there was at 179 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: least a little bit of a check of what this 180 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: guy's about. In those short stint, he looked fantastic. And 181 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: that's why the Niners wanted to make that trade because 182 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: they at least had a sample size. Nobody has any 183 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: sample size with Jordan Love other than what he did 184 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: at Utah State, and that's not enough to make a deal. 185 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: This program brought to you by M Drive. M drive 186 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: dan dot com get free shipping, sixty day money back guarantee. 187 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: Don't let age beat you rEFInd your prime with M drive. 188 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: There's an interesting show yesterday, certainly interesting. After the show 189 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: social media, they wanted answers, So did I, So did I, 190 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: And there's still things that I haven't had answered yet. 191 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: I have questions about all of this. And look, I 192 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: said to Paulie, if Adam wants to clarify anything, you know, 193 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: he's more than welcome to join us. And I have 194 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: great respect for him. I just think the way this 195 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: was framed was not It wasn't fair to the story 196 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: because if you have no new information then it's not 197 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: breaking news. But if you have information and you say 198 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: this is from league sources and the team, but then 199 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: you say the information is not from the team or Rogers, 200 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: that's where I had to disconnect. I was trying to 201 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: figure that out. Yes Bowling, it's really fascinating watching social 202 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: media yesterday of how people in both Green Bay in 203 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: the entire state of Wisconsiner are dealing with this because 204 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: the past week a lot of sentiment has gone against 205 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers as a source of a story or being 206 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: a malcontent or whatever it may be. They put his 207 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: video up with him at a baseball game and people 208 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: are booing. I wonder if people will kind of like 209 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: backtrack on that hardcore Packers fans. I just want to 210 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: be fair to the story. As much as you like 211 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: the action, the possibility. What if he's traded? What's that 212 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: mean for Jordan Love? What's that mean for this team? 213 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: What's that mean for the AFC? Like, there's so many 214 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: things attached to it. But as much as you can 215 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: have wishful reporting, I have to have legitimate reporting and 216 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: just ask the questions and try to find answers here. Yeah, McLeman. 217 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: The funny thing is next week is a schedule release. 218 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: If Aaron Rodgers isn't a Packer or a Raider, can 219 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: you I'm tell you, Broncho or a Raider? Can you 220 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: imagine how boring those teams are gonna look? Now? Like 221 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: the Broncos are that Aaron Rodgers, they might as well 222 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: not have a season, Well, that changes the entire TV lineup. 223 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: If let's say Aaron Rodgers got traded to the Broncos, 224 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: then you know they're going to be featured more often 225 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football or Monday Night Football, Thursday Night. You're like, 226 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna want to showcase those things. Yeampo. I saw 227 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: an article a few years about scheduling, and it's so 228 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: nuanced that let's say the Chicago Bears and Chicago Bears 229 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: are not an exciting team nationally, but now they have 230 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: Fields as a possible quarterback. They would look at Fields 231 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: and the Bears and say, world scheduled them in early 232 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: December because maybe by then he's a starting quarterback. Now, 233 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: no offense to Andy Dalton, but they're not gonna put 234 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton on Monday and a football in September. They 235 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: look at it that nuanced. They don't schedule on backup quarterbacks. 236 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: Why would they consider wow? Wow? Yeah. By the way, 237 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: there have been reports of the Packers making Aaron Rodgers 238 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: the highest paid quarterback in the league, and there was 239 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: one with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. I think the Athletic 240 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: had some information on that. Going back to just a 241 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: couple of days ago. You know, from May fifth, the 242 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: Athletic had a report on Aaron Rodgers with a contract offer. 243 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: And I don't know what they're offering. You know, are 244 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: they going to give him a three year deal and 245 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: he's going to make fifty million dollars a year it's guaranteed. 246 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if we have numbers. You 247 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: also have speculation on what the packers would want in 248 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: return for Aaron Rodgers. So that doesn't mean that they're 249 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: actually actively seeking this. But you know, you start to 250 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: get a report or speculation or hey, I'm thinking this 251 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: is what it would take, and then you start to 252 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: look at well, wait, look at what the Bears offered 253 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: Seattle for Russell Wilson. Well, that's what the Packers are 254 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: probably going to want to ask for in return. I'm 255 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: not even there yet. Until I know the Packers are 256 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: actively trying to trade him, I'll treat this the same 257 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: way with Seattle and Russell Wilson, because Seattle wasn't trading Russ. 258 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: And until I hear the Green Bay says, we throw 259 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: our arms up, we can't do anything with this. This 260 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: is this is at an impast. We have to trade him. 261 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: Then we'll react accordingly. But I'm still in the minority here. 262 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers is still your quarterback. Yes, McLevin, 263 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: you know it's again. I'm sorry it's so unfair, but 264 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: it's fun to speculate about which teams would call. If 265 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: you take the Russell Wilson teams and the Deshaun Watson teams. 266 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: Did you say the Dolphins called or something? I'm sorry 267 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: it was reported the Dolphins. What'd they call for Aaron Rodgers? 268 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: At least make that call as a general manager. Why not? Well, 269 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: the Dolphins had made an inquiry about Deshaun Watson, and 270 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: the Dolphins made an inquiry with Russell Wilson. From what 271 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: I was told, did they pick up the phone? I 272 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: guess you do. I mean why not? I mean, do 273 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: the Packers not have caller ID and then they'll go, 274 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: who's calling? I'm gonna pick it up. Well, here's a 275 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: three oh five number. Oh it's the Dolphins. Yes. I 276 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: do love the semantics and posturing of general managers. We 277 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: accepted phone calls. We did not engage in any discussions. 278 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: We were offered this, We did not offer anything. It's 279 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: all semantics with Jims. You can't say you shopped a player. 280 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: You could say you accepted calls and there was no 281 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: interest on either side. Also, it's been reported that Rogers, 282 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, aside from the long term commitment to him, 283 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: said that he didn't he turned down this offer to 284 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: be the highest paid quarterback if it was going to 285 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: be in Green Bay. Sorry, I don't know where. I 286 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: don't know where we stand today, truly don't, and I 287 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: don't have information from either side. I don't have a 288 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: source on either side other than somebody who told me 289 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: six weeks ago about that didn't think that Rogers was 290 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: going to be in Green Bay after this upcoming season. 291 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: That's the only information I have as an insider. Don't 292 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: have anything left. Yeah, he could that be the kind 293 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: of thing with the contract situation where the money is 294 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: big but the year commitment is off. Could be. It 295 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: could be we're gonna give you a two year deal, Yeah, 296 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: two years, blah blah blah million, but he wants three. 297 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm guessing if I'm Rogers, I want to take away 298 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: the whole tenure of Jordan Love as a green Bay Packer, 299 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: just so they admit, you guys made a mistake. Don't 300 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: bet against me. So we have spite seasons coming up here. 301 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: Help stack got two seasons out of spite. I don't 302 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: have any information on it other than trying to understand 303 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: and the personalities here. I don't know the Packers personality, 304 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: but I'm aware of Aaron Rodgers personality. Yes, mclov you 305 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: were right from day one they had traded Jordan Love 306 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: for a third round pick and been done with this. Yes, 307 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: I'm sorry poor Jordan Love. Look at the shoes he 308 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: has to fill down for whatever he does play. But 309 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: here's the Packers. Do you admit you made the mistake? Yes? Now, 310 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: if this is a new GM, you could go in 311 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: there and go, hey, I don't know what you guys 312 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: were thinking, but Jordan, we have some nice parting gifts. 313 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: You're welcome back. You know we're gonna send you. We're 314 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: gonna send you someplace. But you know what happened when 315 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: the Jets got a new GM, a new coach, they 316 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: got rid of Sam Darnold. They're like, uh, Sam, see you, 317 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: and Sam is more decorated than Jordan Love. Yeah. Seed. 318 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: If i've the Packers, I'm like, we didn't make a mistake. 319 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: We took who we thought was the best player in 320 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: the draft. But we've worked everything out with Aaron. Yeah, 321 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: don't worry. We're working things out with Aaron. It's the 322 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: media who's been running with this and spinning that's out 323 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: of control. We're actually good. We're just negotiating a contract 324 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: standard everyday NFL business. Yes, mclovin. You know what the 325 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: problem is. It's this history that they've had two quarterbacks 326 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety three that they do. You think they thought, hey, 327 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: we did this with Aaron and Brett and it worked 328 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: out perfectly. Let's they must have thought that when they 329 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: drafted Jordan Love. I'll go back to what I said. 330 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: They bet against Aaron Rodgers because he had what twenty 331 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: five touchdowns twenty six touchdowns back to back seasons. That's 332 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: those are off years for him, and they're probably thinking, 333 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: if he has another one of these, we can probably 334 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: get out from underneath this and then we make, you know, 335 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: pave the way for Jordan Love. Now, is Jordan Love 336 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: ready this year? Probably not. We're not going to know 337 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: until the following year. But they were betting against Aaron Rodgers. 338 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: It feels like because if you knew that he was 339 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: gonna if I said to the Packers, Roger was going 340 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: to be the MVP. By the way, would they have 341 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: taken Jordan Love. I'm going to say no, you wouldn't have. 342 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 343 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 344 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 345 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 346 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. You 347 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: think it's been a long week nationally with Aaron Rodgers 348 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: holding us hosted, imagine if your local all Aaron all 349 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: the time. Mike Heller sports radio host The Mike Heller 350 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: Show ten seventy of the game in Madison, Wisconsin. Good 351 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: to have you back, Mike. Things have changed a little 352 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: bit here. It feels like in a week last Friday, 353 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, most people thought it's a real 354 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: small percentage. Aaron Rodgers stays in Green Bay a week later. 355 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: What do you think that feeling is now? Yeah, I 356 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: think it's grown a little bit. Dan. I think John Coon, 357 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: former Packers teammate with Aaron Rodgers, does a show on 358 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: the Statewide network that I'm affiliated with. He thinks there's 359 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: a better chance James Jones thinks there's a better chance. 360 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: I don't think those are coincidence situations. These are former 361 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: teammates that Aaron Rodgers is still really good friends with. 362 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: So if they're bringing that to the table this week, 363 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: that there's a better chance of reconciliation, I think there's 364 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: a better chance of reconciliation. Did we learn anything more 365 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: from Adam Schefter's report yesterday? Well? It you know, I 366 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: had a poll question a week ago I sent to 367 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: PAULI earlier this morning. Last Thursday, I ran a poll 368 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: who's the villain in the Packers versus Rogers situation? And 369 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: it was dead even it was a photo finish, it 370 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: was a half a percentage point difference. I ran it 371 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: again yesterday, same wording, and Rogers is the villain with 372 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: sixty seven percent of the boat. So it changed in 373 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: the last week, and then thanks to you, I think 374 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: it changed a little bit. I should put media in 375 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: the villain category two and maybe they'd get a lion's 376 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: share of the vote. Well, I was just wondering that 377 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: Adam held this until draft day. There wasn't any real 378 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: new information in there, even though he cited league sources 379 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: and a team source, but then said it's not from 380 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: the Packers and not from Aaron Rodgers. Where do you 381 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: think this information is coming from and where do you 382 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: think things stand now between both of these parties. So 383 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: I think it does come from Rogers and the Packers, 384 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: and it's certainly coming from other emissaries. Who are those 385 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: back channel reports? Somebody connected to the organization says, and 386 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: somebody connected to the player says. I agree with your 387 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: sentiment this morning. I think that there is a much 388 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: better chance right now than I thought a week ago 389 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback. And one of the 390 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: things I was talking to you about on the show 391 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: Monday is that I think the best chance for both 392 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: in winning a Super Bowl is to reconcile. I agree 393 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: with you if he goes to Denver. I don't think 394 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: Denver becomes a super Bowl champion next year. I think 395 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: the green Bay Packers can be. And what happens in 396 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two or beyond. I know Aaron wants some 397 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: guarantees that he's going to be in green Bay. But 398 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: the best chance for the green Bay Packers to win 399 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and for Aaron Rodgers to win a 400 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: Super Bowl is to do it together. But I don't 401 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: know how important winning another Super Bowl is to Aaron. 402 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: If you want the GM fire, you're telling free agents, 403 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: don't resign, I'm not going to be here. You want 404 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: a salary that may make you the highest paid player 405 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: in this sport. Those are things that don't help the 406 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers if the ultimate goal is to win 407 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: a championship. Yeah, I think you know from the concept 408 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: of if you get into the weeds of Aaron telling 409 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: Packers free agents, I might not be here. I won't 410 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: be here next year, that could be as simple or 411 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: as as benign as just texting his buddies, hey, I 412 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: might not be here next year in a joking manners, 413 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: as opposed to saying sitting down with them, and before 414 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: you do this, know that I'm probably not going to 415 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: be here. I don't know. Aaron's hard to figure out, right. 416 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: He's a bit of an enigma given his track record 417 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: and some of the things that we don't know about him. 418 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: We just know surface stuff. I'm sure wish he'd talk. 419 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't do any We're not going to know anything 420 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: until after June first, unless, of course, the Packers and 421 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers signed a contract extension, and Dan, I think 422 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: that's far more possible today than I thought at the 423 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: beginning of the week. Yeah, the fact that there's been 424 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: silence here, Mike, that that usually you know, I've been 425 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: around a long time, and it figures that you know, 426 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: they're not kind of going at each other here, or 427 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, and maybe something else comes out in Rogers, 428 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: like there's a report that robbed him offs, he says, 429 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: a high ranking personnel executive from an opposing team. So 430 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: the Packers could get two first round picks and a 431 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: second rounder in a trade. So could get see that 432 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: that's not fair to the situation. I don't know, And 433 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: I think if you add in this story to that, 434 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: any place Aaron goes and they get two first rounders, 435 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: you know there's going to be in the back half 436 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: of the first round below twenty How valuable are those 437 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: picks If you're getting number twenty two next year and 438 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: number twenty five the year after that, I don't know 439 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: that that's enough value for what Aaron Rodgers brings to 440 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: the table today. So I still think and to me, 441 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: the wild card in all of this is Aaron's view 442 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: of the Green Bay Packers and a lot of people 443 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: want to attach emotion to this. I think it's less 444 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: about emotion and more or about trust. So if Aaron 445 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: doesn't feel he can trust that the Packers have dealt 446 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: with him fairly, then I don't think he's coming back. 447 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: If he can set that aside, I think he'll be 448 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: in Green Bay and I think they'll be a Super 449 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: Bowl contender. Is Jordan Love going to be with his 450 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: team in a year, Well, I would hope. So. I 451 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: would hope that they'd treat Jordan Love in a little 452 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: bit of the same way that San Francisco treated Garoppolo 453 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: until at some point that reached to Ted. But if 454 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: Jordan's Love can play Dan right, if he can play 455 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: in some exhibition games and show that there's something there 456 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: other than Utah State film from two years ago. If 457 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: he can show there's something there, then a deal to 458 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: send Jordan Love somewhere else a year from now, eighteen 459 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: months from now might bring back some value. But right now, 460 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: two year ago tape from Utah State is not enough 461 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: to give him any value. Yeah, there's no sample size here, 462 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: there's no preseason, and but I get the feeling the 463 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: Packers know what they have in Jordan Love Now they 464 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: might want to see him with live bullets there, but 465 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: he's not ready. The question is how long can he 466 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: get ready? And how long would it take to get ready? 467 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: Because this is really what you set up. This would 468 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: have been ideal except for Rogers won the MVP. If 469 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: Rogers through twenty five touchdown passes last year, then the 470 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: Packers are probably ready to move on, and then we 471 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: would see Jordan Love get this opportunity, right. I've talked 472 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: about that a lot over the last couple of weeks 473 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: or the last couple of months. Dan that Aaron went 474 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: from twenty five and twenty six touchdowns in eighteen and 475 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: nineteen pretty ordinary seasons, below ordinary by his standards, and 476 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: then he threw a big wrench into the mix by 477 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: winning the MVP. Otherwise, you're right if he was pretty 478 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: good last year, if he had thrown for thirty five 479 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: and got votes in the MVP and they still make 480 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game. I don't know if that's all 481 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: comes to a head right now, but I think they 482 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: were betting on Jordan's Love being ready in twenty twenty two, 483 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: and Rogers is essentially through his performance last year and 484 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: the reaching this loggerheads that they're at right now. It said, listen, 485 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: I either need to be there for the duration or 486 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be there, which one is it? 487 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: Great stuff. Mike has always have a great weekend, and 488 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: you keep us honest. If you know something, let PAULI know. 489 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, Bud. All right, Thanks Dan. That's Mike Keller 490 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: sports radio host The Mike Keller Show, ten seventy the 491 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: Game in Madison, Wisconsin. Thanks for listening to The Dan 492 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every 493 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific 494 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on 495 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on 496 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: the Peacock app. One of my favorite guests has been 497 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: Rex Chapman. He was a high school legend, legend at Kentucky, 498 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: played twelve years in the NBA, fell victim to opioid 499 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: and gambling addictions, which ultimately led to his arrest in 500 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, and since then, Rex has used his platform 501 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: to share his unique perspective on what professional sports can 502 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: push someone to become as well as overcome. He's got 503 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: a podcast it's called Charges, and he has a new 504 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: guest every Tuesday, Meta World Peace, Michael Vick, Ryan Leaf, 505 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: athletes who have gotten in trouble with the law, and 506 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: Rex of course speaks firsthand with the knowledge of that 507 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: great to see a buddy the one A podcast. Look 508 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: at you? Thanks buddy, Yeah, so much fun. Hey, I've 509 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: been waiting since eleven twenty Am I doing one segment? 510 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: Or here? What's going on here? Only my mom got 511 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: two segment tracks? Not you. Do you remember when you 512 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: took that mug shot and you put that mug shot 513 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: attached it to your podcast just to let people know, Hey, 514 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: I've been there, I've been jailed. You know, I'm a 515 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: famous guy and I'm here getting a mug shot taken. Yeah, yes, 516 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: I remember it. The mug shot doesn't bother me so much. 517 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm so vain. I'm just I'm just mad that I'm 518 00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: so fat. And wait, that's what you think? When that's 519 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: what I think? Immediately I go, but do you think 520 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: how like how big this is going to be? That 521 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: it's going to go national here? Yeah? You know? The 522 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: last honest to goodness, the last week has been kind 523 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: of difficult emotionally, just for me. I've still tried to 524 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: handle it. The same way, just because I know all 525 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: of this stuff's going to be back out there, front 526 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: and center in the public again, and that's a little bit. 527 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: Uh it's unnerving not only for me, but for my kids, 528 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: for my mom and dad, you know that have to 529 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: kind of rehash all of that stuff again. So from 530 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: that standpoint, But yeah, you're you're controlling at this time, yes, yes, 531 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: absolutely so. Uh you know, look, Dan, I've been I'm 532 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: thrilled to be you know where I am back here 533 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: and alive and not on painkillers and and finding you know, 534 00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: new things about life that that I like, and uh yeah, 535 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm having a ball with it. The I'm having to 536 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: learn how to interview. You know, I can be interviewed. 537 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: I've done this and I texted about it a few 538 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 1: weeks ago. I don't know how to interview anybody. So 539 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm just winging it, trying to be as vulnerable as 540 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: I can be to show them, Hey, you know, come on, 541 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: give me, give me what you were feeling in that moment, 542 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: you know, when you were at your worst. And my goodness, 543 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 1: these guys have really been willing to do that. I've 544 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: been really pleased so far. Are you revisiting though now 545 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: you say that it's gonna come up. But when you 546 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: talk to these athletes, are you, does it force you 547 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: to kind of tell your story to them so they know, hey, 548 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: we're on common ground here. Luckily, so far everybody has 549 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: known my story. You know, I'm a little older. Yeah, yeah, 550 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: you don't have to tell me. Rex. You know I 551 00:31:52,120 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: said that mug shot man, you look sad. Yeah. No, 552 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: I've reached out so far. I you know, I reached 553 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: out to Alan Iverson and Michael Vick and immediately they're like, 554 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: whatever you need, bro, I'm in so it. Ryan Leef, 555 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: same way it's been. It's just been fascinating. I think. 556 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: You know, I know when I did it, you know, 557 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: talked about it last week. There is when you're in 558 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: therapy and all that, it's cathartic a bit. And you 559 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: know the other part is, I know when I was 560 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,479 Speaker 1: searching out there in the depths of my addiction and 561 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: all that, I was just looking for something, anything, any 562 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: kind of inspiration to show me that I could get 563 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: past it. And if if this something I say, or 564 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: something one of these guests says gets through to somebody 565 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: out there that can get some help, take some steps 566 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: maybe they wouldn't have taken then A Okay, that's great. 567 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: Do you remember, like if you talk to somebody who's 568 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: h drugs, they get that that first feeling, like that 569 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: first and I don't know if you remember that first 570 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: pain killer you went, oh wow, and if you have 571 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: a personality that, you know, an addictive personality, like, do 572 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: you remember why you took it and what that feeling was? 573 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: Like I really do, because I didn't. I wasn't a drinker. 574 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't a smoker even. You know, all through my career. 575 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: If I went out and had a beer the night 576 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: before a game a dozen times in my career, that 577 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: sounds about right. I didn't. I wasn't that guy. Now. 578 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: I was always a basketball addict. I was always a 579 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: horse racing, gambling addict. I was, you know, baggage jolly ranchers. 580 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: Don't give me one, give me all of them. I 581 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: want all of them. And so when I finished playing 582 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: right away, I had an emergency appendeck to me at 583 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: the end of my last year, and I was gonna 584 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: stop playing after that. I wasn't very good anymore. And 585 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: a doctor got off the plane and the doctor gave 586 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: me oxyconton and for whatever reason, I filled it. I 587 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: took it, and in two days, Dan, I for real 588 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: I was in love. I felt I felt like I 589 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: was walking a couple inches off the ground. I felt smarter, funnier, happier, 590 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: more charismatic, better dad, better husband, you know, and just 591 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: a terrible slippery slope. Within eighteen months, I was taking 592 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 1: forty Viking in a day and ten oxycontidate, just chewing 593 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: them up and eating them all day long, just like 594 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: they were candy. Thank goodness, I didn't drink, or I 595 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: for sure would be dead. So I do remember it, 596 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: and it was I was in love. It was something 597 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: that was bigger than me. Before, you know, three weeks 598 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: I was no longer determining when I was taking that medicine. 599 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: The medicine was telling me, no, you need me, you 600 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: need me. But when did you know or did you 601 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: know now all of a sudden, like I'm getting arrested 602 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: for stealing Yeah, jesus h yeah, I mean at that point, 603 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: you gotta know it was. It was awful. You know. 604 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: I've had two girls in middle school to write out 605 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: of out of high school, just the worse man um, 606 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, So I'm I'm yeah, I knew then. I 607 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 1: knew before then. I've been in rehab two other times 608 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: before then, But at that point, you know, I felt 609 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: like I was at rock bottom. I'm running low on drugs, 610 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm running low on money. Um. But when I was 611 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 1: with you one time, yeah, yeah, we're firing at the horses. 612 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: Were you were you high? For sure? For sure? And 613 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: that's the that's the part about it, Dan, that uh 614 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: with with painkillers, it's it's sort of a perfect thing 615 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: if you're a drug addict because you don't smell like 616 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: weed and you don't smell like liquor. I would sweat 617 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: a little bit more, a lot more, but you can 618 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: kind of blend into society. Your decisions become worse and 619 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,479 Speaker 1: worse over time, your physical and mental health becomes worse 620 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: and worse over time. And something had to happen to me. 621 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: I I'm not I'm not happy that what happened happened, 622 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: but something had to happen or I was going to die. Yeah, 623 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: you wouldn't be here, Rex, I mean the embarrassment that 624 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: was there. But now you're gonna help so many people 625 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 1: like And that's why I always love talking to you, 626 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: because people hear in your voice that you're real and 627 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: if you truly want to help people, this is how 628 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: you help people. I remember Ryan Leaf would say the 629 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: tip off was he would start sweating, like I you know, 630 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 1: being in a family or a family tree that has 631 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, alcoholics, like you always look at a tell 632 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: like there's tells and you could see and somebody's drinking. Oh, 633 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: that's just water, it's not it's vodka. Like, so you're 634 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: you guys are great liars, like great liars and have 635 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: to be yeah, Ad Dixon, you know. And then there 636 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: there comes a point too in all of that, and 637 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: I know it did with Ryan because I just talked 638 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: to Ryan the other day. You know, there comes a 639 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: point where you're you're getting it from doctors, and back 640 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: in the day, any doctor would give it to you. 641 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: If you just called up a random doctor and name 642 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: drop I'm Ryan Leaf or I'm Rex Chapman, they'd be like, oh, yeah, 643 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: what do you need and give you a prescription. Now 644 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: what happens is pretty quickly you can't keep up. The 645 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: doctors can't keep up. They start figuring out you go 646 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 1: to other doctors. Pretty soon you run out of doctors 647 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: because you need so much. And then you go to 648 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: drug dealers, and that's what I was doing for oh 649 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: Man a good couple of years early on, just buying 650 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: them off the street. And the crazy part is that 651 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: these illegal drugs, they're not They come straight out of 652 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: the back of the pharmacies. That's where you find them. 653 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: That's where you go buy them from somebody inside. That's 654 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, working double time. They're taking them out of 655 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: the back and selling them to somebody right out of 656 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: the back of Oscos or wherever the hell it is. 657 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: I was worried problem when I went to my knee surgeries. 658 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 1: They gave me oxycon when I have my name or place, 659 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: and and I didn't take them like I was so 660 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 1: worth it to take good. I didn't want to like them, 661 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: and I knew I would, and I purposely was like 662 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 1: I got to get through like a couple of days 663 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: here that initial pain. But that's good, Dan. I'm glad 664 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: to hear you did that. My mom had surgery knee 665 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: surgery a little while ago. And there's so many people 666 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: that I know present day, you know, living around me, 667 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: friends that I know that have pain, that constantly have 668 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 1: three or four pills in their pocket. They wouldn't think, 669 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: and they don't classify themselves as addicts, as drug addicts 670 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: or pill addicts or whatever, but they're never without a 671 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: handful of pills in their pocket. And that's so many people, 672 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: especially where we grew up in Ohio and Kentucky and 673 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: the Midwest and South is just being ravaged by it. 674 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: He's Rex Chapman, former NBA player and Twitter legend. By 675 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: the way, the new podcast now you do a great 676 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: job on Twitter. You're fun. The podcast is charges made 677 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: its debut this week. So Ryan Leaf Metaworld piece. What 678 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: did you so, Michael Vick? Did you do that interview already? 679 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: Haven't done it yet to do it? Excited, really excited 680 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: because I'm you know, with these guys, I'm a big 681 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: fan too. I'm a big Michael Vick fan. I'm a 682 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: big fan Ryan Leaf. I'm a sports fan just like 683 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: you guys. I remember Dan, I'd say this real quick. 684 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: You remember when we were young there was a big 685 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: star played played at Ohio State. I know you remember this, 686 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: uh arch Leaster, and I just thought he hung the moon, 687 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, quarterback My goodness, all American dude had a 688 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: big time issue gambling. Still, yes, been in jail in 689 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: and out of jail, and I thought back, I was like, man, 690 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 1: I because I always wondered. I was like, why don't 691 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: you just stop gambling the little kid in me? You know, Uh, 692 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: it would have been beneficial for me to hear you 693 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: interview arch Leaster back in the day. You know. So 694 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: I hope that us interviewing Michael Vick and Pete ron 695 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: our test meta standard Ford Our test. I guess now 696 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: that you know, somebody somewhere is going to get something 697 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: out of it that's relatable. Sports is so relatable, and 698 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: hopefully we can help some people. The advice that I'll 699 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: give you is ask open ended questions, short questions, open 700 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 1: ended questions, get that person talking, and I think once 701 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: they get talking and then they establish a comfort level 702 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: like that, That's my goal every time is get to 703 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: the question because people want to hear your answer and 704 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 1: then let you talk and assume nothing because I as 705 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,240 Speaker 1: many times as we've talked and I might have answers, 706 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: my audience might be hearing this for the first time, 707 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: and I don't want to cheat that. You know that 708 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: transaction there, but good luck with this and I don't 709 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: know that's uh, it's gonna be pretty cathartic. I hope 710 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: for you. How's your jumper? By the way, when's the 711 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: last time you shot hoops? It's been a few months. Yeah, 712 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: I shot outside with some kids up the street not 713 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: long ago. And I'm terrible. I'm just terrible. You're not. 714 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm terrible. Uh. You know you gave me some good 715 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: advice there, Dan, I'm gonna give you something ready. Don't 716 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: don't sleep on John Calipari of the Lakers. That's all 717 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. All right, that's all I'm saying. Were you yes? 718 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: And yes, I was high then. That was April of 719 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. So that so now that now we know 720 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: you were high when you when you put that out 721 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: there for Calipari, it's like, I'm not going to the Lakers. Wait, yeah, Rex, 722 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: Rex knows he's plugged into Kentucky. Oh idiot, I might 723 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 1: have said, I think Rex must be high, and I 724 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: didn't even know you were high. I was just kidding. 725 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: Where can people get the podcast? Are you anywhere? Man? iHeartRadio? Okay, Heeartradio. 726 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: It's on iHeartRadio. It's anywhere, Apple Podcasts, Spotify find it anywhere. 727 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: Charges charges with Rex Chapman awesome be sure to catch 728 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at 729 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 730 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: and the iHeartRadio app.