WEBVTT - Is MAGA Welcomed Home? | MiniPod 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.160 Native Land Pod is the production of iHeartRadio in partnership 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:04.600 with Resent Choice Media. 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:07.960 Well come, well come, well come, well come, well come, welcome. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:10.480 Welcome home, y'all. 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:13.080 All right, So on this mini pod, I will tell you, guys, 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:19.680 we were having conversations off camera about engaging you guys, 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:22.159 and one of the things that we've been wrestling with 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:24.639 is having guests. We hear from you guys, and a 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:26.160 lot of the people on our team say we wanted 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:28.600 to hear you guys in conversation with more guests. Now, 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:32.760 the question at issue is will we have guests. We 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:34.599 don't want to be an echo chamber. We should have 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.880 guests that we disagree with, sometimes opposing points of view. 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:42.960 Now I have an issue with quote unquote platforming, because 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:44.600 there could be an issue with the word platforming. I 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:49.400 would say I have an issue with platforming Trump people platforming. 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:50.080 What I would call nonsense. 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.680 So if there's somebody out there who is like a 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:55.680 black maga. 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.520 Person to me, I hate what people say, Oh, I would. 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.400 Love to see you debate fill in the blank, any 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:03.840 half wainted idiot out there, And I'm offended by it 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.480 because why would I ever reduce myself to sit across 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.600 from some of these people who I don't deem an 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:13.399 equal to me, and I consider them a disgrace to 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.520 society but most definitely to the ancestors. Should we be 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.280 platforming those kind of people? Should we be in conversation 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:24.040 with people, you know, who may feel differently than we do, 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.200 but also different in a bad way. I love an 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:30.800 intellectual and change of ideas and ideology and disagreement. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:32.840 I don't shy away from that, But I just have. 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:37.600 An issue with, you know, I actually with when I 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:41.720 was when Angela first started doing television, which I think 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:42.240 is so funny. 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:43.960 Y'all sometimes will be out and girls will be like, 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:44.600 I grew up. 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:50.880 Watching you as you grew up. But I remember when 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.600 I would see Angela and they would have Angela on 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:58.000 who is an attorney, former executive director of Caucus Business 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:03.160 owner organizer, sit across from somebody who ain't nothing but 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.720 a maga idiot, Like that's it. And you're presenting these 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:10.080 two voices as though they're on equal footing. And I 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:15.200 would be looking at this highly offended, and Angela was 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.080 offended too, as she's saying under her breast for some reason, 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:23.240 even though she's sitting around Handa wants us to see 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.200 this clip, so that's what she's over there doing. But anyway, 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.359 that is the discussion. That's the discussion that we want 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:30.240 to have today, like what kind of guests should we 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.640 be platforming here? Do you guys want to see I'll 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:35.440 tell you I'm not going to sit across from a trumper, 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.960 But do y'all want to see Angela drag a trumper. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:38.200 On this show? 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:40.040 I want to go. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.600 Across do you I want to see her confront these 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:44.920 people and question them and you know, make a fool 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:46.680 of them because they're not going to be able to 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.840 to you know, be a heavyweight with her. Andrew, what 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:52.320 what do you think? What are your thought? Do you 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:53.760 want to have those kind of people on the show? 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.000 Would you want to interview a person like that? 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:01.800 So? No, I mean the the sure answers, No, I 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.079 mean I probably. I don't mind dissent, I don't mind 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:08.880 difference of opinion. I don't mind a good, well informed debate. 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:14.880 But just because somebody went viral by their stupidity doesn't 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.960 mean that we would have a good conversation and good 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.480 by way of not agree or disagree with each other, 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.880 but mostly have it be. 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:29.320 Informed, and I personally, I hope you have done some ship, 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:36.560 but there's some credential. 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:39.320 You're not just this, Yeah, I got it, but I. 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.720 Guess yeah, And if you are random to me that 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:47.120 somewhere what's been happening is is relevant. What you've been 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:51.000 doing is relevant and not just trying to be I 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.160 don't know, a bomb throw or a flamethrower or somebody 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:56.600 who's just trying to get attention, like time out for that. 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.600 But but if we disagree on something legit or you 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.120 have a per perspective that I think is curious. Tiffany, 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:03.360 I think I was talking to you one day and 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.000 I was saying, Nope, it was you, Angela. 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.640 I was talking to you about someone in the Trump. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:12.000 Administration who previously was a Democrat, had previously supported Democrats, 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:16.359 lived in California, and made his conversion over to Trump on. 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.320 Frankly monetary policy at the international level. 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.400 And I was like, man, this so this you know, 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:26.159 it's worth hearing this guy and what it is is 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.000 to say. And by the end of the conversation, I 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.919 actually was informed and I could hear him differently because 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:32.719 I didn't put him in the category of just being 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.800 a Trumper, But it took a little bit of convincing 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.040 for me to be like, Okay, that I'll take an 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.760 hour and listen to what this guy's got to say. 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:43.760 But the sensational I'm good on that. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:50.200 Can I ask you all beyond the sensational, Let's say 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:54.080 there are people who I actually have two questions, but 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:55.200 I'm gonna go this first. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.159 There are people like Gavin Newsom right now, right who. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:04.080 Is utilizing his platform, is bringing people onto his platform, 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:09.120 like Ben Shapiro or Charlie Kirk or Steve Bannon. And 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.359 it feels like to me, to be fair, I have 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:14.320 not watched this thing, but I haven't seen clips. 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:15.360 That's all I see. 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:19.080 It feels like to me from the limited experience I've 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.839 had with the clips, and I hate when people do this. 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.279 So I am acknowledging that I'm being a hypocritic because 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.240 I hate when people deserves but I'm absolutely doing I 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:30.880 had no desire to watch this shit. So it looks 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.159 to me like he's trying to Arnold Swarzenegger himself for 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:39.159 a potential presidential run, to become more neutral, to become 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.000 more lukewarm, to be in the middle, or kind of 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:47.960 even shifting conservative Allah Ronald Reagan, Allah Arnold Schwarzenegger so 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:52.359 he can be more palatable for a broader electorate. And 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:56.799 I feel like it's it's you know, it's it's not authentic, 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.080 but it's like I'm going to try to whitewash myself, 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:03.920 despite my very whiteness, to become this instead of politicking 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.760 with Markshawn Lynch and the other guy. And it feels 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:11.080 like a mess, Like I'm not talking about that, Like 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.560 I'm not talking about like, well, now that you said 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.320 it that way, I kind of could see I could 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:15.880 vote for Trump. 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:16.520 Not like that. 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:22.360 But it's more like, let me understand your story, like 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:26.320 how did you get here? You know, what led you 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:30.320 down this road? Was there a tipping point for you? 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.880 Like we have, we're in a tipping point right now. 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.719 We're like, I don't think in twenty twenty two we 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:39.120 would be talking about trying to get Chuck Schumer out 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.279 of leadership, you know, as agitating as it might be, 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:44.200 as some of us might prefer Cory Book or Elizabeth Warrener, 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.160 I don't think that we would Necessarily'm loud it's making you. 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:47.839 I don't know that any. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.240 Of us would have pushed for that, but there's a 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.080 tipping point where you're just like, I've had enough. 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.280 Now my tipping point ain't like I had enough. But 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.320 that's not my tipping point. That's not where I swing. 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.960 But I understand why there are some people who strategy 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.520 might think if I shocked the conscience in this way, 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:07.080 maybe the folks will do a one eighty I guess, 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.280 but I would want to hear from them why and how, 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.720 And then given your experience with these folks and how 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:16.560 it's negatively and adversely impacting your people, how do you 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:17.120 stay there? 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:17.720 Now? 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:25.840 I don't understand how you do the math of addition 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:30.640 or multiplication for the next election without understanding some of that. 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.000 I get it if you're like, it's just not my ministry. 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.360 We've had that conversation before. But then I also don't 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.600 understand the difference. Pardon my ignorance, but how it's it's 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:42.720 then okay to get I don't want to call them 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.040 a random person, but maybe someone who's less known, who 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.720 who we don't have experience with, who's been adversely impacted 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:52.280 by this administration by a federal worker, but we platform them. 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.840 So one took an action that leads to whatever the 0:07:55.840 --> 0:08:00.240 consequences are, but it's still information. Another one has is 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.120 just on the receiving end of whatever actions the American 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.600 people took, but now they're suffering the consequences. 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:07.080 It's still a story, no less. 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.960 I just understand how I want to understand how we 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.360 collectively here on this podcast thread that needle to get 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.960 to the heart of the why, whether they voted for 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.320 it or they're just impacted by those who voted for it. 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:20.800 I mean, I hear you. 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:24.960 I just think there've been so many books written about this, 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.080 so many articles that come out all the time. I 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.040 don't like that question has been asked and answered a 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:31.040 thousand times. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:31.920 There have been like. 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.840 Leading black folks, you know who's written about the popular 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:36.480 vote last time. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:37.720 I'm talking about this time. 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.800 But even this time, I think, you know, Michael Harriet, 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:43.240 a friend of ours, you know, has written about this. 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:44.800 I don't know why. 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:49.680 We would choose this platform to extend to people who 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.280 I think are mostly provocateurs who would salivate at the 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.360 chance to come on the show and have some sort 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:56.360 of exchange with you. 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:57.839 I would not be part of it. 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:01.120 They'd have an exchange with you where you have this 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.640 huge platform and they have none, and so now the 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.199 only thing you've done is made them a superstar. There 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.439 are people out there who I'm not even gonna give 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.280 them the privilege of name checking them on this show. 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:16.080 But there are black self hating black women out there. 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.040 One we saw the DNC. Anyway, you'll go back and 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:20.080 listen to that episode if. 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:21.240 You want to know who I'm not gonna. 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:27.280 Well, wellni willnee Andrew checking us for naming somebody right there. 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:29.880 Case you confused, Andrew is checking you right now with 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:30.360 his eyes. 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.839 In case you're confused, I'm not very I'm very appreciative 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:38.120 of your any who. There are black women, self hating 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.480 black women out there, self hating black men out there 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.120 who are only superstars because people platform them. 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.520 Because we talked about them. 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:49.000 We shared their clip, not we as individuals, but we 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:49.880 in our community. 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:51.280 We shared their clips. 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.680 We extended our outrage, We went back and forth with 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.840 them on Twitter, we made comments on Instagram. Then there 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.360 were black people who said, come on my show. There 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.800 are black events that said come sit in my platform, 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.840 come sit on this stage. All they did was elevate 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:09.400 a fool. They made superstars out of ignorant people. I 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.040 don't want us to do that here. I think if 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.320 there's some intellectual curiosity about that, there are other ways 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:18.240 to do it. If there's an individual curiosity about that, 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.280 there are ways to satisfy it. I think putting them 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.840 across from you, I just I don't like it. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:38.440 I grew up in the school opportunity on TV No, Andrew, 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:39.520 I'll be done real quick. 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.520 I grew up in the school of I want to 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.199 hear what this means. I'm about to tell you. 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:49.240 So on Washington Watch before Row had uh was it news. 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.600 News before news one? 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:56.040 Now he had uh Washington Watched, And every Friday I 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.280 would be on with Armstrong Williams or Parents, Denard or 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:01.120 Sure my Goal or whomever. 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.880 I forgot this other dude's name that really drove me nuts. 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:05.760 These are all black Republicans. 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.720 Republicans and so and it was an Elroy Sailor. It 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.199 was at a time where they were far more palatable 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.320 and reasonable. But some of them have gone with the 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.240 wind with Trump, right, and I think are are gone. 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.160 Went to win with Trump. Other like where is Paris? 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:20.200 Where is Paris? 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.079 I ain't nobody seeing nobody parents since he got into 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:29.320 it with Phil Nobody looking for him either with Phil 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.120 on CNN he made an accusation against him, and who was, 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.560 you know, a national intelligence person? 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:36.360 Uh? 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:37.960 And then we never heard from Paris. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:39.679 Lord Well, I hope they didn't often. 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:43.640 But the only point on parents Factory Wink, if you 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.160 alive here, Andrew gonna kill me because I'm so down 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:47.320 fifteen different tangents. 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:48.200 My point is just this. 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.640 I appreciated those conversations because even if I didn't agree 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:57.600 with them, I heard another perspective I didn't. I was 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.839 irritated with I did Breakfast Club and Byron Donalds came on, 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.360 and I was very irritated by the lies and the 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.959 fact that he whipped out this paper from allegedly from 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:07.960 Larry Summers and I couldn't see the paper, and I'm like, 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:09.840 I'm in on a zoom. I can't even see what 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.000 you just pulled out to refute, you know what I mean. 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.360 But I still think that those conversations are important because 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:19.080 what ends up happening tip is they go into echo chambers. 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.079 People would argue that maybe ours is the echo chamber 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.120 in part because we don't have diverse voices on. 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:24.800 Or contradicting voices on. 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.000 But they go into those spaces unchallenged, and they're lying 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:29.880 the entire time. 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.000 Nobody fact checking them anyway, Andrew, I can keep going. 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:33.600 All those spaces need to stop having them. 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.240 Then Byron Donald shouldn't have had that literally have their 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:37.040 own platform. 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.199 Now what was his ass in Selma? He ain't had 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:40.200 no business being. 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:43.920 In Seloma saying and Selma that he doesn't support preclearance, 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:48.560 coming back into the little guy making politics institute because 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:49.679 of course they're bipartisans. 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:50.679 Anyway, go ahead, you. 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:55.320 Sorry, I don't conversation with Baron Donald's. Byron Donald's about 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.560 the about his history, what he believes, how he shaped 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.040 his belief systems, and so for and by the way, 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.199 nobody should be coming after us for what they think 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.040 are not a diverse enough arrayre of voices, because we 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:07.440 need to get our house in order. 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:07.840 First. 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.360 There are a lot of us who largely vote the 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.120 same way, who can give a real justification for. 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:14.080 The positioning around it. 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.720 And then those who, by the way, choose not to vote, 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.520 who can't give a real, cogent and coherent reason why 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.079 it is that they made the choice not to other 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.599 than laziness or I don't believe in a system and 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.480 yet you've not interrogated that system. So and I do 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:30.240 treat differently, Angela. You're common around the person who has 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:34.200 experienced the effects of the administration. I don't think that 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.079 I would be curious about that. I would even be 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.720 curious about the person who made the choice to vote 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.480 for them, except just know if we're being treated equally 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:47.200 on this platform, and we both got time, I'm not 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.920 going to be generous with my I'm going to ask 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.880 you questions that I think as a voter, I would 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:54.600 want to know before I went into a ballot box 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:58.280 and chose an individual who chose you exactly who they were, 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.920 not just demonstrated as a candidate, but as a former 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.679 president of the United States for four years. Yeah. So, 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.240 so just know if we went down that road, we're 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.280 going to go all the way down that road, exactly. 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.760 I just am not interested in the sensational because you 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.199 did a TikTok that was you know, fancy and went 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.160 around and even though the shit is ignorant as hell 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.800 that now you're on everybody's platform, that to me would 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.080 not be an interesting exchanged because I wouldn't know how 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:27.880 to truly engage authentically with with with that kind of chakunery. 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:28.560 You know. 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.840 The one thing, the one thing I want to ask 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.720 is Lolo told us we were going to be doing 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.880 these once a month live town halls. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.320 I just made a face hit her. We haven't. We 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:39.320 haven't done them yet. 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:41.720 And I think that maybe even having some type of 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:45.640 convenient like that, where we're democratizing access to the platform 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.440 without regard to how people are registered to vote, without 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.760 regard to how they voted, I think that those are 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.120 the kinds of things that we're missing. Tip every week 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.480 is on our heads about not getting all the voter 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:59.280 I mean voter questions newer questions, is what I'm trying 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.040 to say. And I think that she's right. We do 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:03.600 want to hear from you all. We want to continue 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:04.960 to hear from you all. So it'd be great to 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:06.760 know if you all would want to be in a 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.000 town hall like that, like what led you to the 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:12.840 ballot box or not? You know who drove you to 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:14.000 the ballot box or not? 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:15.200 What do you care about? 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:16.480 What do you care about? 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.440 And how can we do you care enough about to 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:19.840 do something? 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.200 Yes, how can we collectively work together on those things? 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:26.080 I would love to have those conversations once a month 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.600 on this podcast. I think when I consider what it 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:32.960 means to be in the ethos of Native Lampod and 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:34.600 what it means when we said welcome home, it is 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:35.040 just that. 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.880 So I hope that we even since the members of Congress. 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.800 The Republicans won't have a town hall, you are well here, 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:40.880 we will have a town. 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:40.960 We don't have. 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:42.720 All they getting dragted these sounds. 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.000 You saw this one where he was like, only Republicans 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:47.000 come in and they checking their voter registractions. 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.040 Which but it's Republican voters who are mad too, which 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.200 is so ridiculously. But I want to say this about 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:54.400 distining voices because I don't want people to misunderstand me 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.680 that I'm saying no, we should not have dissenting voices. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.280 I think dissenting voices can be healthy. 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.560 And like I said, I appreciate a healthy exchange of ideas. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.840 I appreciate a healthy exchange of ideology. The only person 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.520 in the Trump administration who I would be really curious 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.200 and interested to talk to is Kevin Hassett, who is 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:15.520 his economic advisor. I think he is number one a 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:16.920 great communicator. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.920 Brother. I agree with him or not, but. 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.720 I think and he's at least sensible, and he is 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:26.040 laser focused on economic policy. I believe economic policy that 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.200 crushes us and harms us. But I think he could 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.720 at least come on and have an intellectual exchange. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:32.680 Get your invitation. 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.760 If he would come on, Absolutely absolutely, I would definitely 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.120 sit across from him, because I think that is where 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:42.480 you get to hear ideas and not a shouting match. 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.280 We're not trying to go viral. If it happens to 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:49.600 go viral, that's fine. I'm not elevating a clown, you know, Like, 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.960 this is somebody who actually has deep conviction in his 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.480 thoughts around economic policy, and I don't think he's had 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:57.840 the opportunity to hear from a lot of people like us. 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:02.040 So I would welcome that conversation. These random internet comments 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.400 jackasses who you know, try to tag us and try 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.199 to get our attention because they want to come on 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.560 and want our attention. I tried to find this clip 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.760 Angel was talking about you. I couldn't find it, but 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:13.560 this clipping, it's a. 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:15.480 Sign that God told me no, I guess. 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.760 But but people like that, like it's another chick who 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:22.240 I think she was a her Her husband owns a 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:24.280 strip club or something, you know whatever. 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:25.560 Yeah, I only want to. 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:27.080 Say her name, But this chick used to try to 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:28.760 cheat me all the time and get my attention. 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.120 Like people like that, I'm like, no, you, why would 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:31.840 I sit around? 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:32.600 What have you done? 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:32.679 That? 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:34.840 Are not talking about from personalities. 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.800 I'm talking about the folks who voted or in or 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.840 mobilized voters in their communities. 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.080 Yeah, like what got you to that? No? 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.639 That, but that's not a voice of descent. I'm talking 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:48.160 specifically about voices of descent. You all want to hear, 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.919 you know, ideological differences. I'm completely open to that. I 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.959 just am not interested in talking to people who are 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.200 willfully ignorant because it's not going to be a fair 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:00.320 fight if you come on here and you can't defend 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.160 your ideas and you can't send. 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.320 We can show clips, I suppose, but if. 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.120 You can't handle the intellectual weight of the table, then 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.320 you really don't have any business here. And I do 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.200 respectfully think Kevin Hassett could, even though his policies I 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.920 think are harmful. He could so that kind of thing. 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.920 I like, but we wouldn't learn right. We had to 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.000 at least agree on some basic facts. But I want 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.640 to hear from the viewers and the listeners if you 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.680 guys like want to see that type of exchange, and 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:27.439 just tell us what kind of guests you'd like to 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:29.919 hear from. Uh do y'all want to see some of 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:33.040 these you know, Trump people, Republican members on the show. 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:35.920 Who are some people we may be overlooking who you'd 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.320 like to hear from? Because I would be curious to 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.359