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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody.

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Speaker 2: It's another episode of Crush City Territory. My name is

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Speaker 2: Chandler Roam with Tyler Stafford and we finally got Josh

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Speaker 2: Reddick out of the rodeo, off of the golf course

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Speaker 2: and back onto the pod. Josh, what did you enjoy

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Speaker 2: better the pro am or post Malone? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Considering the way I played golf the post Malon concert,

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Speaker 3: it was a good thing we played a scramble on

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Speaker 3: Monday because I probably would have shot one hundred and ten.

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Speaker 3: I think I was too hyped up and trying to

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Speaker 3: hit too hard because scrambles are my strong point. I

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Speaker 3: hit the ball far so when I get on the

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Speaker 3: tea box, I just try to crush it. And it

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Speaker 3: wasn't fun. It wasn't fun. I hit a lot of

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Speaker 3: we call it, we call it worm burners for those

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Speaker 3: that know that term. So a lot of ground balls

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Speaker 3: up the middle. Post Malone was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Very rarely while I give plugs for things on here,

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Speaker 2: but congratulations to the Houston Open Rory McElroy. They got

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Speaker 2: they got a verbal commitment from Rory mcclroy. Scotti Seffler's coment.

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Speaker 2: That should be fun for those people that like golf.

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Speaker 2: I'm not one of them. But you know, it is

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Speaker 2: a Sunday off day because for some reason, the at

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Speaker 2: the Astros and Mets are going Thursday, Friday, Saturday off Sunday.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to go.

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Speaker 2: Watch perhaps Rory McElroy or Scotti Scheffler won a golf

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Speaker 2: tournament in Houston, you have a free day to do

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Speaker 2: so and not worry about the Astros.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty special too, because he just won the players

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Speaker 3: so usually guys when they do big tournament wins, they

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Speaker 3: kind of take a little bit of a break, especially

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Speaker 3: with the Masters coming up. But yeah, that's that's a huge,

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Speaker 3: huge commitment for the area.

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Speaker 2: Another huge development happened for the Astros on Tuesday night.

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Speaker 2: Lance mccullors junior, for the first time in eight hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty eight days, stepped on a Major League mound.

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Speaker 2: It was thirteen pitches, it was one inning, But there

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Speaker 2: was a lot more meaning to it than any velocity reasons,

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Speaker 2: any results, anything like that. Josh, so excited, you can't

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Speaker 3: I just threw my cup all over my computer. That's

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Speaker 3: not what you want. We'll clean that up later.

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Speaker 2: So excited about Lance can't keep everything straight. But Josh,

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Speaker 2: it was thirteen pitches. I'm not going to sit here

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Speaker 2: and break down his outing. He faced four batters, he

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Speaker 2: hit one of them, he got two groundouts, got a

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Speaker 2: But mentally, as someone that has been hurt, that has rehabbed,

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Speaker 2: not as long as Lance has, but can you kind

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Speaker 2: of tell people what it is like for a guy

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Speaker 2: like Lance to come back after such a long time away.

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Speaker 3: Oh God, what a relief for him personally. You know,

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Speaker 3: the fight that you go through for so long. I mean,

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Speaker 3: noon before everybody gets there to get your work done.

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Speaker 3: And then you've got to sit there for the rest

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Speaker 3: the ballpark. So it's a long day and it gets

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Speaker 3: a little boring. But you know, Lance is so good

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Speaker 3: at getting stuff done even when he wasn't hurt. You know,

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Speaker 3: back when I played with him, it was all about

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Speaker 3: know he was in there getting everything he needed to

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Speaker 3: days and to come back, what a great feeling for

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Speaker 3: not only him, the Houston area. The Houston Astros meant

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Speaker 3: so it's a big piece in this organization. And for

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Speaker 3: him to just get out there and you know, get

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Speaker 3: his feet wet. Like you said, it was thirteen pitches.

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Speaker 3: It was basically just a little you know, live batting

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Speaker 3: practice action with a different atmosphere. So it was good

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Speaker 3: to see him get through it with no issues being

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Speaker 3: the big the big thing. You know, when you come through,

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Speaker 4: And I got so excited.

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Speaker 3: I just checked.

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Speaker 4: These cowards won't even let me put money on Lance

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Speaker 4: to win the cy Young this year. It's not even available.

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Speaker 3: They're scared.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what it is. It is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got you gotta have dark horses, man,

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Speaker 3: if it happened a bunch of color. They need to

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Speaker 1: Josh.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much you got to watch of him,

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Speaker 2: but I mean from what you did see, I mean, again,

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Speaker 2: thirteen pitches. We are not going to overreact to what

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Speaker 2: he's probably going to stay back in West Palm Beach.

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Speaker 2: He'll throw on Monday in a backfield game. He wants

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Speaker 2: even if he has to simulate it. He'll simulate it,

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Speaker 2: go sit down, and then go back and throw a

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Speaker 2: second inning. And then after that, you know he'll they'll

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Speaker 2: put him on a rehab assignment. I'm not sure whether

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Speaker 2: it's where they will send him, whether it's Corpus, whether

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Speaker 2: can only spend a maximum of thirty days on a

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Speaker 2: rehabit before you have to be brought back onto the

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Speaker 2: major league roster. Josh, you have seen Lance at his best,

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Speaker 2: You've seen Lance when he is healthy, You've seen the stuff.

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Speaker 2: This is already a pretty formidable rotation when you look

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Speaker 2: if there's no setbacks, if he comes back, and if

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Speaker 3: I think it gives them a little bit of relief,

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Speaker 3: especially considering how effective Lance can be. I think with

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Speaker 3: that thirty day maximum rehab, I think it'd be best

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Speaker 3: if the astros utilize that full thirty days just to

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Speaker 3: make sure you got everything in line and make sure

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Speaker 3: everything's perfect, well, not necessarily perfect, but like working for

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Speaker 3: him with no setbacks, and if there is a minor setback,

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Speaker 3: then you take that step back and move forward. But

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Speaker 3: know you can get four or five out of him strong,

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Speaker 2: It was funny, you know, Joe spot us that after

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Speaker 2: the game, Misterry that Lance was bagging to go back

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Speaker 2: a little bit, Josh. One thing I found very heartwarming

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Speaker 2: the former teammates and coaches that that texted him yesterday

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Speaker 2: before the start, and it was Carlos Correa, who he

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Speaker 2: remains very very close with, Alex Bregman, Martin Maldonado, Dallas Kichel,

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Speaker 2: Brent Strom checked in, Jay Hinch checked in, Josh, we

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Speaker 2: talk about the culture that this franchise has established since

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Speaker 2: this golden era. Lance is a big part of that

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Speaker 2: as his former teammate, I mean, how excited were you

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Speaker 3: Oh huge welcome back, you know for fans looking on

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Speaker 3: the outside. In myself, it's such a great feeling to

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Speaker 3: debuted with Batman Cleats to becoming that that big voice

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: He's you know, probably the him and Al Tuove the

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Speaker 3: So he's becoming the leader in that clubhouse. I know,

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Speaker 3: And you know he's always having it fun. He's always

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Speaker 3: it's a huge pickup.

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Speaker 2: a problem with that given your affinity for your affinity

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Speaker 3: Uh No, not as a superhero battle as a kind

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Speaker 3: you know over here like who you think you are,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be myself.

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Speaker 2: I totally forgot that he debuted against you guys with

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Speaker 2: You hit third that day, you went uh oh for four.

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Speaker 2: The A's did win that they you did win. You

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Speaker 2: All right, it's our it is our annuals not even

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Speaker 2: the right word. It's the continued discussion of every ball

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Speaker 3: And when you look at the big picture, I think

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Speaker 4: Josh, I did not play professional baseball, but basically the

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Speaker 3: when you look at when you're looking at big league pitching,

436
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,679
Speaker 3: he's still handling himself well, he's not getting overpowered, and

437
00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 3: you know, you don't really lose anything if he breaks date,

438
00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,920
Speaker 3: breaks breaks camp with the team. You know, he breaks

439
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,600
Speaker 3: camp with the team and he stinks for two weeks.

440
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,080
Speaker 3: You send him back down, let him kind of get

441
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 3: his confidence back and work there. So and in reality,

442
00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 3: he's your better option. He's not your best option defensively,

443
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,119
Speaker 3: but if you want a stronger lineup, you got to.

444
00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I just think he's he He passes Chas

445
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 3: in the offensive category and all around. I just think

446
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,639
Speaker 3: that they're a better team with Cam Smith on that roster.

447
00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chandler, come on, man, I have a couple things

448
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 2: about everything that was just said, Josh you mentioned. Okay,

449
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,400
Speaker 2: I want to go to Jake Myers real quick. We'll

450
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 2: get back to Cam Smith in a second. I want

451
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 2: to go to Jake real quick because I think this

452
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,360
Speaker 2: lines up with both if Cam Smith makes a team

453
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,200
Speaker 2: as a right fielder and Josel Tuve playing left a lot.

454
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Speaker 3: You know.

455
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 2: I wrote something a couple of days ago that it

456
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 2: was interesting to me to talk to Jake and he

457
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 2: said that he more than anything, that he has a

458
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 2: physical more than anything.

459
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 1: Physically, he said, what's going to be most important is.

460
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Speaker 2: His communication, and it's yelling to Al Tuvey like balls in,

461
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 2: balls back, like where to go with him? And I

462
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,639
Speaker 2: presume if Cam Smith breaks the club, breaks camp with

463
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 2: the club, would be the same thing as an outfielder

464
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 2: that has been out there and played, Like, how valuable

465
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,880
Speaker 2: is it to have a center fielder that is calling

466
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 2: out like they I mean, you know, if a ball's mishit,

467
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 2: if he sees a swing better than maybe you do,

468
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 2: or if he sees a you know, we're thinking about

469
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,199
Speaker 2: that play last night. I'm sure Jake was yelling a

470
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Speaker 2: ton as they were about to convert in that left.

471
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Speaker 1: Center field gap. How valuable is it to have a.

472
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Speaker 2: Center fielder that can be as communicative and can help

473
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 2: in that regard?

474
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 3: Oh, it's it's it's everything because you one, you're preventing

475
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 3: a collision from two super athletes running full speed in

476
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 3: each other, and that's just a train wreck in itself.

477
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 3: But you know, it's not only just Jake. It's it's

478
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 3: the infield. It's you know, when when he's playing out there,

479
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 3: you got to have you know, pain has got to

480
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 3: be vocal towards him. Whoever's at second base that day

481
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 3: has to be vocal, whoever's playing right that day, you know,

482
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,360
Speaker 3: But you know it's not only just Jake. Jake does

483
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,719
Speaker 3: a great job of moving around to with the communication,

484
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 3: but it's also their jobs as well to communicate. I

485
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 3: know when when when Georgia and I and Spring, you know,

486
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 3: when we were out there, it was always about not

487
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 3: just him yelling at me, me yelling at him. If

488
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 3: we were converging on the gap, and I knew right

489
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 3: away it was going to be his I'm yelling all

490
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 3: you you, you, you, and you know obviously if I'm

491
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 3: going for it, I'm saying I got it, I got it,

492
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 3: I got it. But the biggest thing is just to

493
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 3: keep yelling as much as you can, because usually you

494
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 3: see a bunch of miscues from guys that you know,

495
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,239
Speaker 3: say they don't hear each other because they're yelling at

496
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Speaker 3: the same time, and the guys are just stuck on

497
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 3: the three. I got it, I got it, I got it,

498
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 3: I got it. All right, I got it. That's it.

499
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 3: But you know, my big thing was yelling, yelling, yelling

500
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 3: to make sure that they were out of my way.

501
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 3: If I'm screaming at the top of my lungs all

502
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 3: the way to the ball gets of my glove, so

503
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 3: be it. And I think that's that's the bigger pictures.

504
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,719
Speaker 3: It's not just your outfielders got to help you, but

505
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 3: you know your intuters need to help you as well

506
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 3: on those balls in and as the guy playing out there,

507
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 3: you got to know the situations too. We're we're such good,

508
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 3: we're so good at assessing where we need to go

509
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 3: with it's hit to us. You know, we got gallon second,

510
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 3: one out too deep, get it in quick, shallow, try

511
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 3: to throw him out, ground ball, you know, throw him out,

512
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 3: keep it low. There's all kinds of things that you

513
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 3: can prepare yourself for to make the right call once

514
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 3: it happens, so you're not ever thinking things and it

515
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 3: just becomes more natural. I think the biggest thing with Jake,

516
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 3: for him, with those two guys, is making sure they

517
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 3: move when he moves. You know, hey, we're going over here,

518
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 3: five steps this way, we're going this way, blah blah blah.

519
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 3: So I think about not only just the play happening,

520
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 3: but pre play planning. They'll say that five times fast.

521
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 3: I think that becomes a big factor for those guys

522
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 3: because you got to know what you're going to do

523
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 3: with the ball when it comes to you before it happens.

524
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 2: Something interesting that's come out of this You mentioned pre

525
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 2: play planning. Uh, that is hard to say, Josh. As

526
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: you know, you guys carried the positioning cards in your

527
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: pockets in the outfield. That shows you how to position

528
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: every every for every hitter, how to how to lay

529
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: out things like that.

530
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 3: Joe A.

531
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: Spada has told us that Altuve is carrying one in

532
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: left field. He does have one, but he doesn't like

533
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: to use it.

534
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: I'm with him, I'm with him there, I hate those things.

535
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: He prefers to look into Dave Clark, who if there

536
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 2: if if if we're ranking people in terms of importance

537
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 2: of this astro season, Dave Clark has to be in

538
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: the top three because this dude has he is Jose

539
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: altuves implicit trust and he has basically taught Altuve how

540
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,239
Speaker 2: to play the outfield for the entire six weeks we've

541
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: been in West Palm Beach. But he prefers to look

542
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 2: into Dave Clark, who is positioning.

543
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 1: The outfield in that way.

544
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: So they're they're having to tailor a little bit, you know,

545
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: they're seeing what he likes, what he does like, how

546
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 2: he likes to be positioned, things like that.

547
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: So I think it's been interesting.

548
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: To watch how al Tuve has really taken to this

549
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 2: how he's kind of molding it into his own And

550
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: then we were talking about a little bit before we

551
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 2: came on. I thought it was very interesting to see

552
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 2: how upset he was yesterday when he dropped that fly,

553
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: and obviously, like you didn't want him to be happy

554
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 2: about it, but it's very clear that he is committed

555
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: to making himself serviceable out there, and this is going

556
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: to be something that he is working his tail off at.

557
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: He does not want to look he does not want

558
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: to embarrass himself out there, and you know, to be

559
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: quite honest, to play like that last night would probably

560
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: rank up there in terms of kind of embarrassing.

561
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: So this is he is motivated by this.

562
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: I think he thinks the outside world believes he just

563
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: can't do this, that he'll fail out there, that this

564
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 2: will be a disaster, that this will be a train wreck. Josh,

565
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 2: I think he is motivated by everyone that's thinking that,

566
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 2: because he's out there trying his best and playing with

567
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: the sort of vigor that you don't really see in

568
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: a guy that's about to turn thirty five.

569
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's just all when you look back

570
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 3: at it, and how too is such a good athlete

571
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 3: that excuse me, things are going to transition really well

572
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: for him. And like I said, I keep saying repetition, repetition, repetition,

573
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 3: but once he gets those reps in there, you get

574
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: more and more comfortable. And is Dave Clark still using

575
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: the dog toy to guide him around like he did

576
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 3: in fifteen? In sixteen? Wait, what wasn't that Dave wasn't

577
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 3: Dave Clark with the stros in fifteen fourteen fifteen? Who

578
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 3: was Who was the coach of the Top Step using

579
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 3: the dog training orange toy to move his outfielders?

580
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: That wasn't that wouldn't pet us?

581
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: Was it? No? I think because I think Gary was

582
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: still coaching third and not doing all that, or I

583
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 3: don't know if Gary was there yet or not. But I

584
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,239
Speaker 3: remember it was during the boat porter days and I'm

585
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 3: pretty luck I can't rememb who was, but I never

586
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 3: I'll never forget. We were giving him so much crap

587
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 3: for them using a dog training toy to move his outfielder,

588
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm just curious. I thought it was funny,

589
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: but I am with him on the showing. I think

590
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: the sheet is all hearsay, and you know, obviously that's

591
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: numbers and analygs talking because that's where a majority of

592
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: where he is. But you know, pictures don't pitch that

593
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: way all the time. Swings are different. Guy could be hot,

594
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: guy could be struggling. So I think all things come

595
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 3: into play because when I was playing, I hated that thing.

596
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 3: I was always the guy that could read swings so

597
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 3: well from the outfield in just that way. So I

598
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 3: felt like I was a better outfielder that way. So

599
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: maybe that's what he's thinking. But you know, paper only

600
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 3: does so far, So I really I really like and

601
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: respect that he's relying on a guy like Dave Clark

602
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 3: because obviously Dave is a great coach and he's you know,

603
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: seen plenty of time in the show and what these

604
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 3: guys can do. But it's it's definitely way but because

605
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 3: he's closer to the dugout anyway, seeing those swings as well.

606
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 3: So I think it's all about just reading swings and

607
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: how your picture's gonna pitch him. You know, if if

608
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 3: Fromber's up there, I'm probably not relying on that paper,

609
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 3: especially if I'm in left. Okay, we've got a left

610
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 3: handed hitter, you got a two steamer and a curveball.

611
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna come in because he's probably gonna jam

612
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 3: the heck out of him. He's not many guys are

613
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 3: gonna take Farmer the other way, left handed, and then

614
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 3: vice versa for the right He's I'm gonna shift away

615
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: from it. But going back to him having that kind

616
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 3: of vengeance to be a good outfielder is just who

617
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: al Tuov is. You know, when he gets doubted, you know,

618
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: look at what he happens. When he started his career,

619
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: kept getting told to go home tryouts and just kept

620
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: showing up. So he's gonna persevere. He's gonna show everybody

621
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: what's up. He's going to show them that, Hey, you

622
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 3: know what I've been doing this my whole life. Don't

623
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 3: underestimate me because I'm gonna go out there and I'm

624
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: gonna shut you up. So he's got that drive and

625
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: the fight in him. And like you said, when you

626
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 3: drop balls like that doesn't matter if spring training, practice

627
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 3: or a game. When you drop it's a very embarrassing moment.

628
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: It's very hard to get over.

629
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, And to me, the I'm not as worried about

630
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 4: the routine stuff because that just takes time, Like, that's

631
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 4: all it is. It's not that he's not capable of

632
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 4: do it. Like obviously he can catch a pop up

633
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 4: to left field. I'm not concerned about that. I would

634
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 4: have been more concerned if he wasn't able to make

635
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 4: those you know, two and three star level plays, right,

636
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 4: if he's not able to get a good jump, if

637
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 4: he's not able to read those things, because the route

638
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 4: teen ones just take practice. Like, I have no doubt

639
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 4: that once he sees enough you know, routine plays to

640
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: the left field, he's gonna be able to handle that

641
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 4: just fine. Any professional athlete is gonna be able to

642
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 4: do that. And he already has shown flashes of Oh,

643
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 4: this guy's actually going to be you know, average two

644
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 4: above it, Like he can move around out there, he's

645
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 4: going to make some plays, and that's already shown. I

646
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 4: think more than enough to say I think he's gonna

647
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 4: be fine out there.

648
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 3: I'm with you there, because he's definitely he's definitely not

649
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 3: going to be the worst left field in the league.

650
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: So I mean, when when you look at it that way,

651
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 3: he's definitely going to be a lot better option than most.

652
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: The biggest thing for me, I think for him it

653
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: looks just looking at why how he plays is the

654
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: wall the wall ball seems to be giving him the

655
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: only issue of kind of hesitating and excuse me and

656
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 3: just kind of being a little bit cautious. So, like

657
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: you said, the routine plays become natural. But yeah, when

658
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: when looking at his route running, his lines are pretty

659
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: much straight. There's no banana routing, there's no herky jerky routing,

660
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: and like I said, he goes back to being an athlete.

661
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: He's gonna learn he knows ball flight, he knows ball pass,

662
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: so that that becomes natural to him. But yeah, like

663
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 3: when we're making three star plays on the regular, and

664
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 3: three star plays gotta be made. Like I said, when

665
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: you're going back and looking at the superstar plays, you're

666
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: not really gonna expect him to make him if you

667
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: do awesome, If not, we're just gonna give you a

668
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 3: pat on the button and say, hey kid, keep trying

669
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: and do your best. So yeah, and I can I

670
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: know I keep saying repetition, but that just seems to

671
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: be the common thing here is the more he gets

672
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: out there, the more he comfortably gets, and the more

673
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 3: natural is going to fall into him.

674
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 4: Like you said, well, yeah, a month and a half ago,

675
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 4: it was a second baseo. So, yeah, it's gonna take

676
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 4: some time, give him a little bit. I'm I'm more

677
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 4: than willing to give Jose Altuve a little bit of

678
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 4: time to.

679
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: Figure it out.

680
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll be fine. You know, infielders are moving out

681
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: there all the time now, so it's not that big

682
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: of an issue. And and like I said, he's going

683
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 3: to learn. And when you get into that ballpark, in

684
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: that big, leigue atmosphere game, it's going to change because

685
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: you can kind of be a little bit more goofy

686
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 3: in these spring training games. But when when those big,

687
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: big ballpark games come into play, you get locked in

688
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: that tunnel vision becomes more inimate.

689
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: Speaking of innfielders moving to the outfield, two weeks ago,

690
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: Cam Smith was the third baseman. Now he's seeing time

691
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: in right field. He's made two great Fruit League starts

692
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: out there. He got into the game last night in

693
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 2: the eighth inning, played two innings in right field. Hasn't

694
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: had a ton hit to him. He did make a.

695
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: You can call it a sliding.

696
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: Catch, falling a falling catch.

697
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: It it was adventurous, but the ball got in his glove.

698
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: It wasn't out, it goes as an out in the scorebook.

699
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: You can call it a diving catch for the rest

700
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: of his life, and he will do that. But look,

701
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: cam Smith is not going to make this team to

702
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: play defense. Cam Smith is going to make this team

703
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: to hit. His bat is going to get him on

704
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: this team, Josh, he talked earlier about, Look, if he

705
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: comes up and he stinks for two weeks, send him

706
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: down and you can kind of do it that way.

707
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: I wonder do you worry at all about that? How

708
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: it would affect his just psyche, his confidence, and this

709
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: kid's makeup has been lauded throughout the organization since he

710
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: got up here. It is the one thing that they

711
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 2: knew he had a good makeup coming in. It has

712
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: exceeded their expectations. But this is also a guy that

713
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 2: is like a lot of baseball players that get to

714
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: this level, has probably never failed in his baseball life,

715
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: and if he has, it has not been as pronounced

716
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: as it could be at the big league level. Do

717
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: you worry that if they do that, if they break

718
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: camp with him and let's say he starts, you know,

719
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: five for sixty and they have to demote him, do

720
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: you worry about what that does to his psyche and

721
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: his overall kind of demeanor.

722
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: I don't but not knowing the kid well enough could

723
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: probably be a factor there too, if I had a

724
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: little bit more time of knowing who he was just

725
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: looking at him. I don't think so, because I think

726
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: what he's only he has played above double A, right,

727
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: double A.

728
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: He's played six games in double A.

729
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 3: Okay, so high as is his highest thing. So it's

730
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: hard to say what what would happen there? I mean,

731
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: you go up and I think you can have that

732
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: kind of fun to fall back on him, like, look,

733
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: you know, I've played six games in double A. My

734
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: highest is high A single A. So if I don't

735
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: go up there to see that's probably why I haven't

736
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: had my time to develop into the player that I

737
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: need to be. But they have such a good, rest

738
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 3: resourceful baseball organization for to handle that. I know, the

739
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: Triple A guys are fantastic. Having those guys in that

740
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: organization are great. You have so many options to talk

741
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: to people about, you know, failure and getting down on

742
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 3: yourself that I think that that can help and teammates

743
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 3: can help that a lot. But yeah, it could be

744
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 3: a fact you just never know how guys are going

745
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: to handle that. But the bigger picture he just needs

746
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: to realize is, look, you're young, your expectations are super high.

747
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: Don't go in there just trying to be Babe Ruth

748
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: or Barry Bonds at that point, just going there and

749
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 3: feeling when you can, and if it doesn't work out,

750
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: it doesn't work out, and you go back down and

751
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: work on things. So like it's hard to tell because

752
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know the kid, but I can

753
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: understand the worry for some people about, oh, if he

754
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: goes up there, it could you know, drain him and

755
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: kill him a little bit. But you know it's just

756
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: a factor just you know, you defeat that go up

757
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: there and hit.

758
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: We talked and look, we talked about this when Graape

759
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: Fruit League play started, about stats in Great Fruit League

760
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: play and how not to obsess over them.

761
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: And but you know, Cam Smith.

762
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: This is all we have to go on because like

763
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: this is all we have with him. And I guess

764
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: the thing about when you look at him versus Chaz specifically,

765
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: like we have a sample size with Chaz. Look, he

766
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: was not good last year. Like, let's not I'm not

767
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: trying to bury that lead. He was not good at

768
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: all last year prior to and he had a really

769
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: really breakout year in twenty twenty three. Before last season, though,

770
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: Chas McCormick had a one seventeen no ps plus in

771
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: almost twelve hundred Big league played appearances. Like that is

772
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: not a small stamp, That is not a small sample size,

773
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: that is enough of a representative sample size to earn

774
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: some benefit of the doubt. And look, Chas has not

775
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: been good in Great Fruit League play, but he was

776
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: really good in Great Fruit League play last year. Had

777
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: about a four to sixty batting average in Great Fruit

778
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: League play last year and was terrible. So it was

779
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: terrible when the regular season started. So I guess where

780
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 2: are we in terms of how much stock do we

781
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: put in Cam Smith tearing up the Great Fruit League

782
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: against a lot of minor league pitching Versus Chas McCormick,

783
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: who just came off a terrible season, who has a

784
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: track record in the big leagues but has not had

785
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: a good Great Fruit League against you know, the same

786
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: kind of caliber of pitching camp Smith scene.

787
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: Well, I think the thing that's hurting Chaz is, you know,

788
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: you talk about last season and then it just continued

789
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: onto the spring training, so it's been more of a

790
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: continuous not so good stretch for Hims. I think that

791
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 3: becomes more of the point where you look at whereas

792
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: this young kid can come in and yeah, it's been

793
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: a lot of minor league pitching, but like I said before,

794
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: he's facing big league guys and he looks comfortable up there.

795
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: He's not getting overpowered, whereas, like you know, there's moments

796
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: for Chaz just looks completely lost up there. So I

797
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: think you just not You don't look at the numbers.

798
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 3: You look at how the guy is in the box,

799
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: what are his swings looking like, where is where his

800
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 3: pitch selection is and that kind of thing. So I

801
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 3: think that becomes more of it. And you know, the

802
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: good thing about I guess I wouldn't say the good

803
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 3: thing about it for Chaz is he can I think

804
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 3: he still has an option left.

805
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he has three minor league options left. He

806
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: has three option.

807
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: Years left, all of them left. Okay, but this.

808
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 2: Will be this will be his fifth year of service

809
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: time though, so once he gets five years, he's gonna

810
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: you would have to get his consent.

811
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: But.

812
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, no doubt so so I mean there there's

813
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 3: options there. You don't have to keep Chas on the roster. Obviously,

814
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: with Cam he's he's he doesn't have the service time

815
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 3: as well, But both guys are kind of in the

816
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 3: same boat, one with more time, one with zero times.

817
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: It's just all about how comfortable they look. What you

818
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: want as a as an organization. Do you want the

819
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: defender to be out there and prevent runs or do

820
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 3: you want the guy that's kind of driving run. So

821
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: I think it's just a mixture of what they want.

822
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: And do you even like consider keeping Chas on the bench?

823
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: You just never know is he going to be your

824
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: fourth or fifth outfield guy. You don't know what's going

825
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: to happen with you know what's going on with this

826
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: Znzo and his his freak injury that happened yesterday. So

827
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 3: there's a lot of moving parts right now.

828
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: Zach Decenzo got a T MJ spring. I didn't know

829
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: what that. I can read you the full joint.

830
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: Total mandible something. I don't know.

831
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: I can read you the full joint, but I would

832
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: mispronounce a lot of words. Basically, it is the thing

833
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: when you open your mouth and you put like your

834
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: your hand or your finger like near your sideburns in

835
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: your ear. It's that thing that clicks like when your

836
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: mouth opens and closes. And this was kind of startling

837
00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 2: to hear Joe Aspota describe. But the ball him on

838
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: I believe I got to get it right. The ball

839
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: hit him on the right side of his face, but

840
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: the sprain is on the left side because it basically

841
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 2: hit him so hard that it jostled the other side

842
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: and sprained the other side of his face.

843
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 3: Because he was diving right, he dove and it kind

844
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 3: of kicked back on him right he dove.

845
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: From what Joe spot had described, it clanked either off

846
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: his glove or off the dirt and just got him

847
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: straight in them.

848
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked like it kind of misdirected when it

849
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: hit him, but that is kind of whird to get

850
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 3: hit or here in the right Yeah, like I said,

851
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: maybe it kind of jerked him over and kind of

852
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 3: overextended that joint a little bit. So that is definitely

853
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: one of the few times we'll probably I don't even

854
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: know if we've heard of that injury before in the

855
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 3: sport of baseball, But that just goes to show you

856
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 3: how freak of injuries can't happen on any given day.

857
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: How did you not get that when you collided with

858
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: Alonzo in spring training a couple of years ago.

859
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: I don't think I had enough time for my head

860
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 3: to hit a Lonzo because by the time I looked up,

861
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 3: I've put my hands up and I was already on

862
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 3: the ground.

863
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 1: That's a big man, he.

864
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: Is he, I mean, he still lives, and back then

865
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: he was pretty solid. And I'll always make this point.

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Speaker 3: He didn't play the next day, but I did, so

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Speaker 3: who was really hurting on that next morning? We will

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Speaker 3: never have to forget that moment.

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Speaker 2: Well, we will not forget that. We will not forget

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Speaker 2: anything we discussed here because we've got a week and

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Speaker 2: about a week until opening day and there's still a

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Speaker 2: lot of uncertainty out there. Who's going to play right field?

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Speaker 2: Where will Cam Smith start his season? Is Zach Decenzo's

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Speaker 2: jaw still intact? And is Lance McCullers Junior a viable

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Speaker 2: rotation option for the Ashers this year? We tried to

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Speaker 2: answer all those questions today. We will answer more of

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Speaker 2: them as the season goes along.

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Speaker 1: Again. We will get up.

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Speaker 2: To three times a week starting next week when the

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Speaker 2: regular season kicks in the Gear.

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Speaker 1: Opening day is Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Josh Clay Holmes is starting opening day for the Mets,

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Speaker 2: which is not a sentence I ever thought i'd say,

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Speaker 2: but two sinkerballers going at it Holmes against Rombervelde is

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Speaker 2: an opening day next Thursday at dyke In Park. The

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Speaker 2: debut of dyke In Park, the debut of Clay Holmes

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Speaker 2: the Starter, and maybe the debut of camp Smith in

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Speaker 2: an astro's uniform. We'll see and we will let you

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Speaker 2: know how that goes on Crush City Territory. Please guys

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Speaker 2: and we will be back soon with another episode.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 4: Bye,