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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at Advocates.

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Speaker 2: Law dot com. Josh is on the phone today for

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Speaker 2: a first day follow up and he's getting ghosted by Terren.

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Speaker 2: So in a second we're gonna call her and see

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Speaker 2: if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe

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Speaker 2: get him another date. But first, Josh, how long has

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Speaker 2: events has you heard from Terran?

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Speaker 3: Oh Man? I think it's been like six days?

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Speaker 1: He love when they are at the exact number. I

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Speaker 1: know you're feeling that verson if you're saying it was

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Speaker 1: six days. Did you try to reach out to her

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Speaker 1: in that time?

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Speaker 3: I did.

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Speaker 4: I tried sending text messages. I've only called there one time,

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Speaker 4: you know, because I don't want to see like a creep. Sure,

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Speaker 4: but nothing, no response, no like on the text messages.

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Speaker 3: You know, we have iPhones, so.

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Speaker 4: She used to have the red you know, settings on,

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Speaker 4: but I don't know if she just took them off.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't really know what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Well, what happened. I would tell us about the day first.

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Speaker 4: All right, so as long as we were sure, you know,

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Speaker 4: we're on the same softball team, and you know, after

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Speaker 4: practice last week, I offered to give her a ride home.

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Speaker 4: And just so you know, guys, there's always been some

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Speaker 4: sort of flirty tension. Like she literally waked at me

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Speaker 4: during like batting practice. So I see her looking at me,

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Speaker 4: and we always do block eyes. We kind of laughed

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Speaker 4: to each other and you know, always talking. Everything is

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Speaker 4: going good, and so I told her we can hang

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Speaker 4: and she said yes very quickly. So I took that

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Speaker 4: as like a green light to you know, let's hang

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Speaker 4: out at my place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: So my apartment isn't great right now. And I pretty

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Speaker 4: much told her that. I gave her a full disclaimer.

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Speaker 4: I literally told her. I said, hey, it's gonna look

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Speaker 4: like one of those post apocalyptic episodes of Borders. You

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Speaker 4: guy said shows No, okay, Yeah, so she said, she

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Speaker 4: said she didn't care and quote unquote, I'm not precious,

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Speaker 3: So, you know, I just I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It just was weird, Like, you know, she came over,

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Speaker 4: we were hanging out and all that good stuff, and

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Speaker 4: I just don't get it, you know, I just we

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Speaker 4: now I had getting no response from her, and we

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Speaker 4: were laughing. It was like one of those random dates

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Speaker 4: at my place. You know.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't planned, it wasn't spontaneous. We just went over.

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Speaker 4: I had a movie plane, you know, I had chips

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Speaker 4: and stuff, so everything seemed.

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Speaker 3: To be going really good. I just like, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 2: You don't know, you don't know at all. Watch might

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Speaker 2: have been ghosting you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's just yeah, it just sucks because

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Speaker 4: I really like her, and I haven't told her that

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Speaker 4: I like her yet.

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Speaker 3: I just I know that she likes me as well,

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Speaker 3: you know, So how do you know? I mean, she

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Speaker 3: came over my place.

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Speaker 4: You know, usually we always go, you know, with the team,

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Speaker 4: you know, to get some you know, sports bar or

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Speaker 3: I usually we see each other like in a group setting.

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Speaker 4: But when I kind of just casually asked her, age,

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Speaker 3: Kind of thought at that moment, Okay, I think.

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Speaker 4: This is going to maybe the next level wherever this

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Speaker 2: How messy was your place? Though?

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Speaker 1: You say that she warned her and you said post

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Speaker 1: the park, But like, are we talking about like.

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Speaker 2: Mold on things? Whoas like kitty litter on the floor?

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Speaker 3: Now, did I think about it?

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Speaker 4: I did have a box of pizza out from last week.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this whole conversation started with the big

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Speaker 1: red flag, and you keep making it sound so sweet

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Speaker 1: by saying but I told her though, like yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, if it's the if it's my hideous apartment,

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Speaker 4: datory bottles, Josh, then that's gonna be horrible. You know,

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Speaker 2: Josh is on the phone and he's getting ghosted by Terrence.

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Speaker 2: So we're about to call her and see if she'll

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Speaker 2: tell us why she's ghosting and maybe get him a

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Speaker 2: second date. Before we do that, though, Josh, why don't

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Speaker 2: you catch us up on your situation again real quick?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everything was going great.

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Speaker 4: You went back to my place after practice, you know,

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Speaker 4: we had some some lunch there watching TV, and she

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Speaker 4: just ghosted me. She left, And I think that, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I think it's the pizza boxes guys.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, maybe the gator at Bottles.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It was messy. I told her that

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Speaker 3: my face was a little messy. She said she liked

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Speaker 2: So that's where we're at. Okay, well we'll see if

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Speaker 2: that is it. Are you ready for us to call her?

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Speaker 3: Are you guys gonna tell him on the phone or not?

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Speaker 3: Or just do I say quiet?

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Speaker 2: Well, you can stay quiet at first. Eventually we'll tell her.

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, maek Aryan. Please, this is she Arreen. How

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Speaker 2: are you? This is a radio show. It's called The

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Speaker 2: Jewbel Show. Hi, I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria and my

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Speaker 2: name is Jubell. How are you? Wait? What what is this?

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Speaker 2: It's a radio show called the Jewbel Show.

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Speaker 3: Like, I'm confused.

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Speaker 5: I haven't like, why are you calling me?

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Speaker 2: Well, we're calling you because we actually got an email

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Speaker 2: about you.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: It's from somebody who listens to the show, and we

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Speaker 2: do a segment on a show that's called the First

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Speaker 2: Date follow Up. That's where if you go on a

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Speaker 2: date with somebody and then you end up ghosting them,

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Speaker 2: that person can email us to ask you why you're

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Speaker 2: ghosting them and we got to email about you from

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Speaker 2: somebody that you're not calling back.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Oh no, like this this isn't real, right,

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Speaker 5: Like this is a joke.

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Speaker 2: Are you joking? No, it's not a joke. Who are

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Speaker 2: you ghosting?

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Speaker 5: Oh my god?

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Speaker 3: Is it Josh?

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is Josh. Josh emailed us. He told us

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Speaker 2: a little bit about your date, and he's confused. He

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Speaker 2: said he really liked you and he thought you were

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Speaker 2: into me. He wantn't know why you're ghosting him, honestly.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if he really wants to know, I'm ghosting

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Speaker 5: him because he's a man slainer, like an aggressive man's lamer.

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Speaker 5: Like on the date, like things would be like going fine,

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Speaker 5: and he would literally what we're doing to explain something

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Speaker 5: to me, and like not things that are like I

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Speaker 5: don't know what they are. Oh that might be interesting,

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Speaker 5: but like basic things like at one point we're making

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Speaker 5: out and he literally paused to say, you know, physical

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Speaker 5: chemistry is just the result of electrical signals in the brain.

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, why why are you interrupting us making

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Speaker 5: out to tell me about this, like read the room, dude.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well then he explained to me the rules of softball.

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Speaker 3: To me me, I've.

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Speaker 5: Played for ten years and I'm literally our team shortstop.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but like, there's no excuse for this. She

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Speaker 5: told me why the glove is shaped the way it is,

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Speaker 5: Like I'm a freaking toddler.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay.

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Speaker 5: Really, she's hot, like like ridiculously hot, like extremely freaking hot.

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Speaker 5: That's why I was, like, you know, kind of indhim

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Speaker 5: he's really good looking. But it's like once I've spent

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Speaker 2: That's man's plain.

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Speaker 3: As I was just I.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't quote up, put up, put up, Taran Tarren, that's Josh.

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Speaker 2: He's actually on the phone, wants to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Oh so so.

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Speaker 3: Because I know things and I wanted to share them

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Speaker 3: with you.

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Speaker 4: That's why you're ghosting me because I explained stuff that's

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Speaker 4: just just like nerdy charm.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was like a cute thing. That's how

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Speaker 5: You literally stop kissing me to break down why some

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Speaker 3: Who does that?

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Speaker 2: It's kind of cute.

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Speaker 3: I was nervous, I thought I thought you were smart.

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Speaker 3: I thought you'd appreciate insight.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, insight is when someone offers you something you didn't

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Speaker 5: already know. Not when some dude explains how beer is

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Speaker 5: carbonated like a blot twist.

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe you could have just said something instead of.

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Speaker 4: And then you know, I have calling radio Like I

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Speaker 3: Just man, it's just you're just like all the rest.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know what, You're just like every guy who

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Speaker 5: thinks being condescending is a personality traits. Look, josh you're hot,

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Speaker 5: but that's not not to sit through a freaking ted

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Speaker 2: Time I touch your arm?

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Speaker 3: Cool?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I understand you now, And you know I don't

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Speaker 4: date people who lie and go so you know, have

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Speaker 4: fun being you know, mediocre terry and have fun with that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I thought you were I thought you lied.

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Speaker 5: I didn't lie to you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you know what this is just I'm

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Speaker 4: embarrassed and you're just so what do we do now?

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Speaker 3: We just watched to say hi and practice like we

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Speaker 2: Karen, would you like another day with Joshua? Will pay

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Speaker 2: for it?

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Speaker 3: I would love another day? No, I definitely. I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: good on that.

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Speaker 5: And also I'm just like to say, nobody's toilet should

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Speaker 5: look like that, Like, get it together, John, I.

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Speaker 3: Had told you that my apartment was messy. Okay, you

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Speaker 3: don't have to go.

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Speaker 5: You know, I was gonna slide at first, but now

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Speaker 5: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's really nasty. Like you're a grown man.

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Speaker 3: You need you need to figure that out. Oh, you

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Speaker 3: can't hold that against me. No, no, no, thank you. No.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. What do you guys do now for your games?

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Speaker 2: Is pretending you don't know each other? Get on another team.

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Speaker 4: I'm open to forgetting everything about like I'm open to

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Speaker 3: And I'm sorry, and you know, just it just sucks,

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Speaker 3: that's all. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean I think that we were sign of practice before,

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Speaker 5: so maybe things could just go back to the way

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Speaker 5: they were.

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Speaker 2: Pretend like you never saw a swilet.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'll never forget that.

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Speaker 2: Jubile's first day follow up