WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Extra Terrestrial Visitors 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.360 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of My 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:15.320 Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.520 Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick, and we are 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:22.079 going to the year three for this one. We're going 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:26.720 to be discussing a film that has many names. It's 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:32.879 primary title in the United States is Extraterrestrial Visitors, but 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.279 it is also widely known to Mystery Science Theater three 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:41.680 thousand fans as pod People. Strangely, that title has nothing 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.040 to do with the contents of the movie and makes 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.600 it sound like it's a rip off of Invasion of 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:49.200 the Body Snatchers, when in fact it's a rip off 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:54.120 of ET but with much grizzlier elements. Yeah, it's. My 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.840 rough understanding of this film is that it may have 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:00.920 originally started as your as Your Basic Error, Creature in 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:04.720 the Woods sort of fair, but this is the year 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:08.920 after e T Cute aliens being befriended by children is 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:12.200 big business, and so this gets folded into the plot. 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.920 So it's one of these films that much like much 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:20.280 like the film Gremlin's, it's totally inconsistent, like it one 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:24.119 second it's doing cute stuff and the next second it 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:27.280 is in horror mode and at the end of the 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:29.120 by the end of the film, your your loft wondering 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:30.840 like who is this for? Like they are parts of 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.560 this film that I would show my child. There are 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.280 other parts that I would not show them. There are 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.679 there plenty of human characters I would not expose them 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:40.720 to in this Well, I would say even the cute 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:45.240 stuff in this movie is grotesque. Uh. The scenes with Tommy, 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.520 the child and his alien friend, like playing around and 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.920 doing telekinesis parties in in uh, in the in the 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.560 bedroom and making like the toys dance on the ceiling 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:58.080 and stuff. Uh. Something about that is its own kind 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.480 of horror, even though I don't think that part is 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.360 intended to be scary. Oh, I thought it was delightful. 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:08.560 Tommy is is absolute goodness and sweetness, and so is 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.239 Trumpy Trump. He is the name that Tommy gives UH 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.400 to the childlike alien who comes into his life. So 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.480 in a way, this movie is going to be in 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:20.560 the tradition of you know, all the movies where a 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:25.160 child to be friends a benevolent, fantastical being. Think about 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.679 the movie that was the direct inspiration for at least 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:32.160 half of this spielberg ZT came out the year before UM. 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.400 But on the other hand, I think you can think 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.240 of this as part of a sub genre of It's 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.760 not exactly correct in this movie because the horror is 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.280 being done by just other aliens that look identical to 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.560 the one he's befriended, but it's part of the sub 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:50.040 genre of child to be friends a deadly monster movies 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.600 like UM. I think one of the core prototypes here 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:59.000 is the original UH ninety one Frankenstein, the Universal monster movie, 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:02.519 where there is a pivot all seen highlighting the creatures 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:06.680 moral innocence as well as his destructive power. After the 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:10.400 creature escapes Frankenstein's lab, he wanders the countryside where he 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:14.919 encounters a child and the creature, being innocent and childlike himself, 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.840 they play games together and they throw flowers in a 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.080 lake until the creature accidentally kills the child while in 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.040 the midst of a game because he doesn't understand cause 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:27.200 and effect and he doesn't understand his own strength, and 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.840 it's that's sort of what makes Frankenstein more of a 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:34.720 grotesque tragedy than a movie about a sadistic evil monster. UM. 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.800 I don't know if that's exactly the case in Pod 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:42.880 almost called it Pod people extraterrestrial visitors. It's I'm not 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.520 sure if this movie was trying to say anything about 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.280 like the moral complexity of the beings in the relationship 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.960 to humans. The child at the in the movie does 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:55.040 often say they just want to be our friends. Uh. 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.360 Yet we do see the aliens totally unprovoked to just 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.400 attacking humans. I don't well, I don't I don't know 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:04.960 if they're completely unprovoked. Now to come back to Frankenstein, 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:07.840 and I think Frankenstein is a great comparison here because 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.920 the other aspect of Frankenstein, and this is president in 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:15.960 the novel too, is that Frankenstein and Frankenstein's monster rather uh. 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.920 And you can call him Frankenstein. It's it's fine, we checked. Uh, 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.880 he's cool with it. The monster encounters a humanity that 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:27.200 is hostile to him, and that foster's hostility that fosters 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:31.240 this this grudge against both his creator uh and uh 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.680 and the creator's fellow human beings. Uh. And so in 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.320 this film we we kind of see the same duality 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.560 like this. We also see that Frankenstein, you know, with 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:43.279 the with the child encountering the child or encountering the 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.600 blind man. Because we have these two aliens, and they 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:50.679 both have they have different experiences with the humans they encounter. 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:56.440 The first alien encounters poachers and hunters and and vile 0:04:56.560 --> 0:05:00.160 band members and so forth. Like the first his first 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:05.440 encounters with humans are all murderous. Meanwhile, the second, younger alien, 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:10.520 his first encounter is Tommy, and Tommy like hatches him 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.120 from an egg. Tommy is nice to him and feeds 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.039 him and and they venture off into a world of 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.920 whimsy with each other. Uh where the the other one, 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:22.840 the murderous alien, has none of that. Oh, I think 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:24.680 I see what you're saying. So like, even though the 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:29.760 other alien does like just randomly attacked like innocent people, 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.200 like in a bathroom or in an RV, it is 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:37.440 because the other alien had previously encountered dangerous humans, right, Yeah, 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.839 Like at that point he's like, this is what humans are, 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.240 and if I see one that, I have no other 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.159 choice but to kill them before they hurt me. Like 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.320 he's walking around with a he has like a crossbow 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.839 bolt in his um in his chest most of the 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:55.040 time because he's also been wounded by the humans. Uh So, yeah, 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.479 this was the for me the most interesting thing about 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:01.839 this film watching it for the first time without any riffs, 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.359 without you know, the added layer of of overt humor 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.080 provided by ms T three K, because I've seen this 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.560 film multiple times before via that ms T three K episode, 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.400 which is one of my favorites. It's a classic MST episode. 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:16.800 But I've never really given the film a chance to 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.200 succeed and fail on its own merits, and it does. 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.960 It does both. Now, I do want to come back 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.799 to the title UH in the of this film, because 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.880 this is it's it's interesting that it has had. It 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.719 has so many titles. So it was a French Spanish 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:37.320 co production, and so it was released in its respective 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:41.800 countries with of course French and Spanish names. Um. I 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:46.679 believe the Spanish is what Los novos extras arrest says, 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:50.640 which is the new extraterrestrials, and then uh, and then 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.760 the French and French is not my certainly not my 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.560 my happy spot for pronunciation, but I believe it is 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:01.239 Clason monsters. So it's um. That's terrible, I know, but 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.000 but I love what it means, the hatching of monsters. 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.839 I think the hatching of monsters might be the best 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.040 title for this film because they do come from eggs. 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.640 One egg is snuggled by a child in his bed 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.360 and the other egg is is the other egg bashed 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.800 open by a poacher. I'm not sure multiple eggs are 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:21.120 bashed open by poachers. We and we have poachers who 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:24.239 are seeking eggs in the forest. So the egg trope 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:28.000 goes pretty deep in this um. But but yeah, this 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.520 has had a ton of titles that we mentioned pod people. 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.680 You can look up all sorts of crazy posters and 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.640 vhs box art for this thing. And like I found 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:40.200 one that just says a visitor and there's a weird 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:44.080 illustration of Tommy and there's the shadow of something standing 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.480 in a doorway, presumably the alien visitor, which looks nothing 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.880 like anything in the film. Now, the shadow kind of 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:53.360 looks like the silhouette of the Diiver, you know, it's 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:57.520 like a it's like a kind of robo alien humanoid 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:01.160 shape with with claws. And there's another one I found 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.520 and I love this one. Uh this is a black 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.440 box video release and this must be like this must 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.000 be like the US or Canadian I don't know, I 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:13.080 didn't I didn't look this up, but it has this wonderful, charming, 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:18.440 childlike illustration of Tommy and Trumpy, and it just says 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:22.480 E t V and gold swirling letters. That's extraterrestrial visitors. 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.320 But for the cool kids E t V. It's like 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:29.000 T two. Yeah, you know, I love it, Like, how 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:30.680 did they think they could get away with that? Let's 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:32.720 just call it E t V. Let's just cut straight 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:37.400 to it. The kids don't care. This is G two baby. 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.480 But Trump is very cute on this. I would say 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:43.200 in general, we're talking about ET Trumpy. Trumpy is far 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.160 cuter than ET. E t is just a flesh bag 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.800 with big eyes and a glowing finger. But meanwhile, Trumpy 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.160 is this delightful mix. He's like all the better aspects 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.280 of alf combined with snuffle up. I guess in a 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:00.120 more bipedal form. What is the Star Wars character that 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.319 Trump looks like from the most icely cantina that has 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.320 a long ard vark snout? Oh yeah, I forget his name, 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.320 but yes he does look like and especially at one 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.160 point in the film when Tommy puts a coat on 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.839 him with a hood garin dan Is that right? If 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.240 you say so, I guess he also looks a little 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:21.080 bit but like Max Rebo, the blue piano player from 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:26.400 Java's barge, of course Trump he has hair. Yes, okay, 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.520 so according to is this Wikipedia or some kind of 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:34.120 Star Wars wiki? Um, this creature with the goggles, the 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.319 hood and the long snout is called garen Dan, also 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:41.880 called long Snoot. Says he it was a kubas. I 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.760 think that is an alien species. Uh. And he is 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.120 considered to be the greatest spy in the most zely 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.120 spaceport there. I mean you barely notice him, you know, 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:51.800 you have to look up his name. That's the mark 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.360 of a good spy. But but a big difference is 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.640 that Trump is furry, whereas garen Dan is not. You 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.599 don't want to carry all that fur with you on 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:05.000 tattoo Lean though perhaps the first yeah yeah, um what so? 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:08.439 One of the human characters describes the aliens is looking 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:12.120 like a cross between I think they're saying a pig 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.240 and a bear, though it kind of sounds like a 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.319 pig and a pair either way. I'm not sure. I 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.000 don't really see the pig part. Yeah yeah, the the 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.719 snout doesn't look very pig like. It's more it's more 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.760 snuffle up agus. That's what I think, yeah, I wonder 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.840 if that line was written before the creature design was finalized. 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.120 Maybe so, all right, at this point we would would 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:33.920 normally give you a little taste of the trailer. But 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.520 I looked around for a while and I could not 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.240 find any trailers for this film in any language. I 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.200 was looking up the various releases. I was thinking, well, okay, 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.520 I can't find that the English trailer. Maybe there wasn't 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.160 one or it's been lost, but surely I can find 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.480 the English or the original one that that they used 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.880 in Spain. But I was not able to find anything. 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.559 So I thought we might just have some audio from 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:59.240 the film. Hopefully we'll get some of the charming synth 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:09.480 music and are as well, what are you Tommy? Hey? 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:20.599 Come back down, Tommy? What are you doing? What was 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:32.800 all that noise? Tommy? Did you hear me? Tommy? Quickly? 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:38.920 I didn't? There? All right, And a note on availability 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:42.760 for this film. Sadly, this is not one where you 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:44.520 can find it. Seemed to be able to find a 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.320 better uh cut of the film, or at least like 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:51.800 better film quality. I ended up streaming at via Prime 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.880 and I know there are some ure's some other streams 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:56.560 available out there again. If you look around in the 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:01.280 for the original Spanish and French titles for the film, 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:02.920 you can find I believe you can find it in 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:06.920 those languages. But in terms of finding like any kind 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.520 of restored footage, we're not there yet. So I don't 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.080 know if this is a film where this is as 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.880 good as the video quality is ever going to get, 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.000 or if at some point we'll get something a little 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:19.960 easier to watch, because yeah, it's it's kind of kind 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:21.840 of brutal at times. It's a film that already has 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:25.360 a lot of fog machines and perhaps some day for 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:30.600 nights effects going on and things get really muddy looking. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.440 The woods in this movie often look like the foggy 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:38.720 forest that that that Graham Chapman gets lost in and 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.120 uh where where they find the knights who say knee 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:46.200 and Monty probably found on the Holy Grail? Remember that sequence? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.920 this film makes like makes great use of the fog machine. 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.280 So yeah, So sadly we're still waiting on I guess 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.080 a proper like restored cut of this film. I hope 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:57.920 we get there. I hope that it's out there somewhere, 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.760 just waiting for someone to discover. But I think for now, 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.440 as far as I know, we don't really have a 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:08.600 superior example of video quality to steer you towards. I 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.160 know it came out on DVD, but I have no 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.240 reason to suspect that that has better video quality than 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:18.839 what's available elsewhere. All Right, let's talk about the human 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:23.400 beings that made this film. So we have we've we've 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.120 mentioned the director of this film before. He's come up because, 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.880 especially when we've talked about Spanish films, Uh, inevitably, some 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:33.440 of the people involved in Spanish productions also worked on 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:38.120 some of his films. This is one, Piquare Simone. He 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.280 was the director, the writer, and he also did visual 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:44.880 effects on this film. He lived nineteen thirty five through eleven, 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:49.040 Spanish b movie director who became I'm gonna say he 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:55.240 became legendary for such films as Slugs the movie, which 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.360 is a film that I distinctly remember seeing a trailer 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.640 for when I was a child, and it made me 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.960 afraid to use a toilet. Um, it may be anxious 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.520 about sitting on a toilet. That's how how terrifying the 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.360 trailer was. Because there's a scene where you see slugs 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.920 crawling on a toilet. Oh there's a toilet attack in it, 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:17.080 or just just slugs on a toilet. I can't remember. 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.400 I think you know, we we we've talked about the 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.880 trailer for Slugs the movie at some point for for 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.760 trailer talk back in the day, but I don't think 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.800 I could quite bring myself to watch it in full. 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.800 Is that one of the movies kind of like the 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.520 the late seventies remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.800 which is fantastic, where the hero is a member of 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:41.120 the local health inspection department? Is it is that? So? Okay? 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:43.920 I have a vague memory of something like that could 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:48.800 be wrong. Uh. Simon's other film of note is Pieces. 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.880 This is a film we've almost watched on Weird House before. 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:54.440 It's been been almost cued up in the past. It 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:58.640 is a chainsaw movie with a lot of other extra strange, 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.200 uh things added to it. But it has a really 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.640 fun cast. It's like, it seems kind of like if 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:08.880 Texas Chainsaw Massacre was not rural and Texan but was 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.920 about like an apartment building. Yeah, like an apartment building 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:15.320 the in Madrid or something. Yeah, it's kind of odd, 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.960 so we may come back to that one. Simone also 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.560 directed the nineteen nine underwater sci fi film The Rift 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.240 that one has Ray Wise and r Lee Ermie in it. 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.680 He also did nineteen seventy nine Supersonic Man that has 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:33.480 Cameron Mitchell in it, aided Mystery on Monster Island that 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.520 has Terence Stamp and Peter Cushing in it. And he 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.840 also did Cathulhu Mansion. Oh, I'd love to see what 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:46.160 jan Piccare Simon does with Terence Stamp. General's odd. Yeah, 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:49.880 I'm I'm curious. So there's also another writer credited on 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:54.320 this um Joaquin Grao. Who's credited is Jack Gray on 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.480 the US version, a writer who worked He just worked 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.840 with Simone on a couple of his other films, So 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:03.280 I couldn't find out much about this individual. But let's 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.120 get into the cast a bit here. So really the 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:08.840 most of these cast members were people I was not 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:10.840 familiar with. But there's one that has come up on 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:14.080 the show before, and that is the character Bert, one 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.600 of the hunters, one of the poachers in the film, 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:20.720 played by Frank Braun who lived through two thousand and twelve. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.400 Not really a major character in this film, but a 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.520 regular player in Simone's films, and he also turns up 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:28.600 in a ton of Spanish be movies of the day, 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.840 including Return of the Blind Dead, which we previously covered 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:35.000 on the show. He in this movie looks like a 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.280 cross between Sam the Eagle and Leslie Nielsen. He has 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:43.080 a kind of uh, silver silver haired authority. Uh, and 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:47.040 yet he's just playing kind of a scummy poacher. Yeah. 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:48.960 I think he. I think he played a lot of 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.040 heavies in his time. He shows up spaghetti westerns and 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:57.520 horror movies. He has those really piercing eyes, often white hair, 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.560 and and also seemed to be able to grow a 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.400 lot of impressive facial hair. So if you look up 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:05.920 just images of Frank Brauna in different movies, yeah, he's 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.399 He's a little chameleon like. He can play any kind 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:15.560 of suspicious, sort of handsome dude with really piercing evil eyes. Um, 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.560 it's it looks like he made a career out of that. Wait, 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:20.679 who was he in Return of the Blind Dead? Was 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.440 he a was he like one of the corrupt politicians 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.560 or something? He was memory serves he was the corrupt 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:31.320 politicians Hinchman who you think is decent for a while 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.840 and not as bad as the politician, but eventually reveals 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:37.200 himself to be a predatory villain as well. And then 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.320 he's you know killed by the dead. Alright. Other other 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:44.080 humans in this film we have we have the character Rick, 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:48.199 who's the frontman of a horrible band. Uh. This is 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:52.680 played by Ian Sarah Dates, unknown Spanish actor known mostly 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:57.360 for this film for pieces for Mystery on Monster Island, 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.919 so you know, he was a regular player for us 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.960 him oan, but he's recently directed and produced it looks 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.760 like um and yeah and this. He plays Rick, a 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:09.479 perfectionist lead singer of a terrible band that makes everyone 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.679 around him miserable. They're really it's like they're setting him 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.280 up to be the villain of the movie. He's like 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.240 the jerk who you know will finally get his come 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.480 up and from the monster in the end. But no, 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:22.520 it seems like in the end the movie you you 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:26.440 realize that he is sort of the hero of the movie. Uh. 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:30.520 It's very weird. But he doesn't really do much that's heroic. Like, 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.040 he doesn't really have an arc, he doesn't have a 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:36.240 redemption story. He doesn't realize that he was a jerk. 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:40.680 He just kind of by not he stops actively being terrible, 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.240 but he doesn't really do anything all that good. I 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.919 guess he's a little heroic, but for movie hero heroism, 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.520 it's very mild. Oh no, I'm not saying he does 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:53.760 anything qualitatively heroic. I'm saying he fills the hero slot 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.680 in the movie, like he is the the young guy 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:58.560 who comes in at the end, but you know, and 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.960 like shoots the monster and off. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:04.760 In that regard, you could say he's definitely filling the 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:08.399 space that should be occupied by a more heroic figure. 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.080 But no, yeah, complete jerk of a character, essentially no 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:15.680 redeeming qualities. The only thing that changes really at the 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:17.960 end is he just sort of like stops having lines 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:33.040 and yeah, I guess there, you know. Yeah, let's see 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:38.160 another human of note in this. There's Nina Ferrer playing Sharon, 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:42.040 a member of the band and Rick's girlfriend. Dates unknown 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:44.960 Spanish actor who appeared in a handful of films, and 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:47.880 this might be the best well known, at least outside 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:50.080 of Spain as far as I can tell. Then there's 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:54.600 also Susannah Biker who plays Laura, a fan of the band. 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:59.200 Laura is also a mild spoiler. She will be one 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.800 of the early vict ms in the film. Um, but 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:04.399 kind of a victim of both humans, more of the 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.360 victim of the humans right as opposed to the aliens. 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:12.880 At any rate, Well, it's confusing because I thought that 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.280 her death is caused by humans, but then she gets 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:20.240 the little like uh the Big Dipper inscribed on her forehead, 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:22.560 which suggests she was killed by the aliens. So I 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:24.919 don't know, all right, we'll have to suss that up 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:29.480 at any rate. Beaker here Spanish actor, mostly active and 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:32.320 still active on television. For instance, she's currently in a 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:35.359 show called Now and Then, which is apparently on Apple 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:38.160 TV Plus, and she's had a She had a small 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:41.600 role in Hostile Too as an Italian translator, and she is, 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.880 according to her online acting profile, fluent in English, Italian 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:48.359 and French. Oh, speaking of do do you have any 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:51.800 idea whether the actors who appear on screen also provide 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.640 the voices in the audio dub I wondered if there 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:58.399 was any difference there, because I think I think most 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:00.800 are all of this movie does not of live sound. 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:05.960 The dialogue is dubbed in right, So my understanding I 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:08.399 could be wrong in this is that again, it was 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.640 a French Spanish co production, and I think lines were 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.320 recorded for both the French version and a Spanish version, 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.919 but I don't know if both of those. If we're 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.159 talking about two different takes in two different languages, I 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:21.480 don't know if we're talking about one is the live 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.720 taken the other is the dub or, as is sometimes 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:26.800 the case with films of this caliber, if both were 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:28.920 dubbed and they just and they didn't do sound, I 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:32.720 don't know. Alright. We mentioned Tommy already, Tommy the heart 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:35.960 and soul of this film, the sweetness of this film, 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:40.520 This this film's hope for humanity, Um played by Oscar 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:44.639 Martin born two, a French child actor who I think 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:46.440 would have been like ten or eleven at the time 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:50.320 of filming, which coincidentally is the age of my son. 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:53.480 So I think that's why this film had more of 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:57.000 an effect on me watching it, uh this time as 0:21:56.800 --> 0:22:00.040 as opposed to the past, because like, here's this, here's this, 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.800 this child that is you know that it still has 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:04.520 all of this innocence in him, and he's you know, 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:08.560 he's in cute animals and caring for animals and nature, 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.080 and he has his goodness in him and you know, 0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:12.560 there's a lot of that that reminds me of my 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:14.240 own son. And there's also this, you know, in this 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:18.320 fear of them growing ever older, getting closer and closer 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:23.040 to that world, of of of teenaged nous and an adulthood, 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:26.520 and all of the complexities of all of that. Uh So, 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:29.560 I think all of this made me think a little 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.359 bit deeper about this film and read more into this 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:36.359 film than I did in the past. Okay, this is 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:40.159 explaining a lot. Yeah, I suspect your son would make 0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:45.440 better decisions than Tommy does. Well, I don't know. We'll 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:47.600 see what is tom Well, we'll get into it. I'm 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:52.080 trying to remember what Tommy's worst decisions are. Uh well, 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:53.880 I don't know, now that I think about it, I mean, 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:56.600