1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: This is breaking new US from Bloomberg. Hamas says Israel 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: killed its political leader Ismael Hania in an airstrike on Tehran. 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: Hania is a chief negotiator for Hamas. He was in 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Iran's capital for the inauguration of the country's new president. 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Dan Williams in Jerusalem says the killing follows the 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: recent death of another top level Hamas official. 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: It's very, very impressive in terms of operations. We're talking 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: about two Middle East capitals, two very senior targets with 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 2: apparently very limited damage around them. Kind of surgical strikes 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: that could also be considered of strategic value. So in 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: a sense, Netaniel will have burnished his credentials here having 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: been batted by the October seventh attacks that really blindsided 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: Israel and cause casualties on an unprecedented scale. 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Dan william says Hennia's death follows an Israeli strike 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: on Beirut last night, targeting a senior Hesbola commander. That 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: attack was a response to a rocket assault that killed 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: twelve young people in the Israeli controlled goal On Heights 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: over the weekend. Joining US from Dubai is Bloomberg Middle 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: East anchor Jumana Bursechi, Jumana, good morning. It has been 20 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: a rapidly developing series of situations in just the last 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: seven hour span, between the killing of the Hesbola commander 22 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: and now the death of Ismail Hania. What is the 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: risk of further escalation at this point? 24 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: Well, at this point, the risk of further escalation is 25 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: certainly a lot higher than it was twenty four hours ago. 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: Two senior commanders taken out in the space of twelve hours. 27 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: As you rightly point out, the strike in Beirut took 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: out a senior Hesbola commander very close to Hesbala leader, 29 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: said Hassan Asrela. But then the strike in Iran was 30 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: also a very surprising development. Ismail Hani, the leader of Hamas, 31 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: was killed in that assassination. And the interesting thing is 32 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: that it happened on Iranian soil. And because of that, 33 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: the comments that have come out of Iran just in 34 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 3: the last couple of hours or so have been very inflammatory. 35 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: The president, the new president, who was receiving his inauguration 36 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: sermon me yesterday, put out a statement saying we will 37 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: defend our territorial integrity, and that is not, of course, 38 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: the fact that the incident happens on Iranian soil and 39 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: Iran will make terrorists. This is a quote regret their action. 40 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 3: That was followed up by quotes from the Ayatollah, the 41 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: Supreme Leader, saying that the severe punishment awaits Israel. So 42 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: very strong wording coming out of Iran, and interesting with 43 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: the backdrop, of course being that the new president had 44 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 3: campaigned on being a reformist and reopening up some of 45 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 3: the diplomatic channels with the West. 46 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 4: It seems as though that window is closing now. 47 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, we all remember the last time Israel struck Iran's 48 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: territory with that drone attack. There was that massive response 49 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: of hundreds of drones and missiles fired at Israel. With 50 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: the changed political situation in Iran now with a new president, 51 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: what could the calculus be at this point. 52 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: The calculus is that anytime an attack happens on Iranian 53 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: territory or Iranian soil, the leadership are going to see 54 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 3: an impetus to want to respond back. In April, what 55 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: you saw was a very targeted strike capital on both sides. 56 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: So when Iran responded to the Israeli attack on the 57 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: consulate in Syria. Again, they had very much telegraphed beforehands 58 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: what they were going to do. The Israeli response in 59 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: retaliation to that, again was quite surgical in nature as well, 60 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: and since then there's been this period of the terrence. 61 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: But on the back of this latest event that is 62 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: unfolded on Iranian territory, there will be an imperative from 63 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: the IRGC for them to come out with some sort 64 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: of response, and not just from Iran itself, but including 65 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: from the rest of the region and the other allies 66 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: that IT funds and backs in the region, including hezbalan 67 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: Hamas themselves, And if you listen to some of the 68 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: commentary that's come out of other regional leaders, Katari PM 69 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: putting out a statement saying, how can mediation succeed when 70 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: one party kills negotiator? 71 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 4: Here giving a nod of course. 72 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: To the fact that Isma Hanini Hani was the chief 73 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: negotiator with these ceasefire discussions. 74 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: Those also seemingly being put on hold as well. 75 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: Now I wanted to get a little bit more into 76 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: that as well. As you mentioned he was one of 77 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: the key negotiators in ceasefire talks in Gaza. Where do 78 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: those negotiations stand now where could they go? 79 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 3: These comments from the Katari Prime minister are really key. 80 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: They came out just about half an hour ago, saying 81 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: that it is impossible to continue the diplomatic avenue and 82 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: to continue with these negotiations given that the chief negotiator 83 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: on the part of Hamas has actually been killed. So 84 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: it does raise a lot of questions as to the 85 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: avenue forward from here. From the Israeli perspective, there has 86 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: been a lot of domestic turmoil, a lot of division 87 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: within the Israeli government, and I think this also reframes 88 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: the narrative around the regional developments now is a win 89 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: for the Prime Minister in Natanya who and his coalition 90 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: which have vowed to eliminate TAMAS leaders since the October 91 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: seventh attacks, So it probably buys them a little bit 92 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: more time. And what it does mean is the likelihood 93 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: of a ceasefire deal or truth being got to has 94 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: gone down. 95 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Jumana Barsacchi with us from Dubai this morning. I 96 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: know it's been a very busy time for you, Jamana, 97 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: so thank you for giving us some of your time 98 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: this morning. Jumana Barsecchi from Dubai