1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: It is Thursday happy Sinco de Mayo. This is check 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: Bars happy hour. And now a woman who's willing to 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: be a sideline reporter at your football game or wedding 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: or birthday or Raymond hearing ashlyns some of them. Isn't 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: so bad that I work hard and ask for opportunities 6 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: and everyone wants to give me crap about it? Thank you, Jeff. 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: It's gonna give me somewhere someday. Hey, Look, the more 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: reps you can get, schlemn than you're a perfect example 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: of take every opportunity you can get, even weddings. So yes, 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: you can call me. Thank you, Joe. Welcome to hearing 11 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: in there too, Like give me a break. That might 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: be one of your best job. I gotta say that. Yeah, 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: that was good, all right, high praise. Don't give him anymore, ammo. 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: He loves this, especially when I'm hosting. He says, it 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: brings me a humble that's good. That's good. He loves 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: to bring me down, you know, I mean. Welcome to 17 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour at ten ten XL Jaguars dot Com, 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars YouTube JP Shotter told me to say all of 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: these things. That happy hour is on JP is on 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: a very much well earned vacation. He has earned it. 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: After draft coverage and Jeff, we had a lot to 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: talk about today we do. It was what one week 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: ago today that the draft was kicked off and Travon 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: Walker was the first overall pick of the draft. So 25 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: at uh an exciting. Always the draft always represents hope 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: and UH and for a franchise that has had difficulty, 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: as this franchise has it, this is the time of 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: year that you like to have hope restored because you 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: have all these prospects coming in and that's the beauty 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: of the draft. For years, it was the only thing 31 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: that teams had to look forward to to improving with. 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine that not having free agency, 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: Like back in the day, there used to be no 34 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: free agency, and so the draft represented the only hope 35 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: at getting better. Yeah, the Jaguars certainly need free agency, 36 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: especially on the offensive side of the ball. And that 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: leads us to what's coming up on Jaguars Happy Hour. 38 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: It's a draft recap. Five out of seven draft picks 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: on the defensive sides. We'll talk all about that and 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: what this defense is gonna look like. Moving over to offense, 41 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: Cam Robinson got a contract extension this week. What does 42 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: that mean for the offensive line and how good do 43 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: we feel about it? Outside linebacker coach Bill Showey will 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: be joining us here in the studio in a matter 45 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: of minutes. Going to talk to him a lot about 46 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: that number one overall pick Trayvon Walker. That's for sure 47 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: breaking news again this week, the Denver Broncos and the 48 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars will be playing in London Halloween weekend the season. 49 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: Very cool matchup between Russell Wilson and Trevor Lawrence. And 50 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: finally we go around the NFL and let's go back 51 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: to recapping the NFL draft. Five out of seven players 52 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: drafted on defense, like we said, and very happy Mike 53 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: Codwell this week, that's for sure. Defensive coordinator and coach 54 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: Peterson said, Yeah, this three four, it's going to be 55 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: fun to scheme against. When I scheme defense, you know, 56 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: the three four becomes a little bit of a challenge 57 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: to to go up against. It becomes a little harder 58 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: to run the football, it becomes some protection issues. And 59 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: so for me, that's as the head coach, that's what 60 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: I want on defense. I want complexity. I want complexity, 61 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: but at the same time it's simple for the players 62 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: to learn if if that makes sense UM, and so 63 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: I wanted I wanted that for our defense and guys 64 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: that Um have had success. I mean, he just came 65 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: off of a World championship in Tampa and he's he's 66 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: seen it at a high level. He's worked under some 67 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: really good coordinators, Todd Bowles, Jim Johnson, he played for 68 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: a Jim, the late Jim Johnson and guys like that. 69 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: So you know, for me, it was an easy, an 70 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: easy plug and play with Mike to come in and 71 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: start that process. That was head coach Doug Peterson on 72 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: this defense and what will look like as they start 73 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: to scheme now that they have the personnel set in place. 74 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: Five editions on the draft on defense, Mike call Well 75 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: was a gidey man going down the hallway as he 76 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: should be. Well, I think it's interesting and that Uh, 77 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: sometimes I think we all can get a little ahead 78 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: of it sometimes, so sometimes you gotta kind of slow 79 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: down and say, Okay, what can they do? Because they 80 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: did add a lot of different pieces in the draft 81 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: with Travon Walker and Devin Lloyd, Chad Movement and those 82 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: three guys on defense out of the first four picks 83 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: that they had, and these guys are expected to be 84 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: starters and some capacity, uh Luke, Fortner and uh Connor 85 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: on offense, expected to be contributors on offense maybe in 86 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: some capacity. But obviously when you have three out of 87 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: the top four picks on the defensive side of the 88 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: ball and you didn't expend a ton of resources and 89 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: free agency on that side of the ball, this is 90 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: where the improvement is expected from. And and coach Peterson 91 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: talked about complexity and trying to be multiple and do 92 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: different things on defense, and that's great, and that's that's 93 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: I think what you would like to be down the road, 94 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: because at first you need to do a couple of things. One, 95 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: you need to install a completely new defense so you 96 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: you can't get overly complex. And then you need to 97 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: find out, most importantly, what these two players do best. 98 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: And you're not going to find that out. I mean, 99 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: you've got a pretty good idea from watching them on 100 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: college film, but in a lot of cases, once you 101 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: get to the National Football League level, because it's a 102 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: different game, you actually have to see them do it 103 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: before you can trust it as a coach before you say, okay, 104 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: we can put him in possession in position X to 105 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: do X because we've seen him do that. And so 106 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 1: that's I think gonna take some time. And with young players, 107 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: sometimes you get there, sometimes you don't. And so I 108 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be an interesting process because it's always 109 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: a process when you're talking about the young players being 110 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: inserted into the lineup. Yeah, and a plan is great, 111 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: but we always hear, hey, we have to execute that plan, 112 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: and we'll ask Bill should we this outside linebackers coach, 113 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: But all the talk is okay, Traymon Walkers over the tile. 114 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: That's so great in college, but now you want to 115 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: get him good at one position and everyone's asking, okay, well, 116 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: what's that position going to be? Well? And it was 117 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: interesting to me watching all the pressers after the pick 118 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: and then the press conference when Trayvon Walker was introduced 119 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville and you had Trent Balky and Doug Peterson 120 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: up there at the at the podium with him, and 121 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: so you're you're listening, you're trying to to to search 122 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: for keywords of what they say. You know, is he 123 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: going to be in a two point stands? He's he 124 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: gonna have his hand in the ground. It's gonna be 125 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: a defensive end. He's gonna be an outside linebacker. And 126 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: it was interesting in that I thought that I heard 127 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: Trent say, you know, two point stance, okay, and then 128 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: I've heard Trayvon Walker asked about what he thinks he 129 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: does best and he said five technique, okay. Well five 130 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: technique is in a three point stance and that's not 131 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: a two point stand. So I think it's gonna be 132 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: interesting to see where home is gonna be for him. 133 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: I think he can be very good at a lot 134 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: of different positions and is he a A lot of 135 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: people say, well, why do you want somebody who may 136 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: take time to develop? Well, the reality is is that 137 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: you're looking and projecting a player no matter what you do, 138 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: whether the player is considered safe or not, You're you're 139 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: projecting everything. You're you're trying to figure out where he's 140 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: going to be and what he can be. And with Walker, 141 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't think it's any different now. Early on, I 142 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: think you're gonna want to make sure that you get 143 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: him comfortable in one position, and then once he gets 144 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: comfortable in one position, then then you say okay, let's 145 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: open up some more things for him to do because 146 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: we know that he can do it because he did 147 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: it at Georgia, right, And everyone's saying, do you feel 148 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: as though, like, yes, he can do all of these things, 149 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: but say he we try him at that one position, 150 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: he's really good at it. Do you leave him there 151 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: and don't bother with it? Well you can, But I mean, 152 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: first of all, the one thing I will say Achelon 153 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: about the picks, and especially Travon Walker and and Lloyd, 154 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: these two guys are our top end individuals. There's no 155 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: arguing that. That's not a debate. We and debate where 156 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: they should have been picked and how good they're gonna 157 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: be and how good they were at their prospective colleges. 158 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: But the reality is these are a plus people and 159 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: so you always have a chance when you have a 160 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: plus people. And that's the most important thing. Good families, 161 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: good background, and now that you bring somebody in, okay, 162 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: let's get them comfortable. And then the more hard working, 163 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: the more dedicated they are, the better the person is. 164 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: I think the more complexities or the more things you 165 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: can ask them to do because they're dedicated to their craft. 166 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: And I think that's something that's been a little bit 167 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: different than we've seen here in the past. And I'm 168 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: not trying to be a jerk, but I mean the 169 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: under previous years we have seen some players that have 170 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: come in here that have probably not been properly vetted. 171 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: And when you're picking somebody with of that magnitude when 172 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: I say the magnitude, when you're picking somebody high, you 173 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: want to make sure that they're a number number one 174 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: quality people first and know. And I think that Trent 175 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: Balky put a premium Doug Peterson put a premium on 176 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: this in this draft because from everything that I have read, 177 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: everything that I have heard, these are top end individuals. Yes, 178 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: we had them in the building Friday and Saturday, and 179 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: they were fantastic, so easy to work with. Their families 180 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: were great Sea that's always and they're always great because 181 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: they're so excited, but you definitely can sense what a 182 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: person is like that first day and they were both 183 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: so awesome. And you mentioned devn Lloyd. Trent Bulky on 184 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: Sirius XM Radio explained why they traded up to get that. 185 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd was way up on our board. We felt 186 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: he was one of the top fifteen players in the draft, 187 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: and you know, we were having a little bit of 188 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: trouble getting back in, but I can't remember. I think 189 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: at pick twenty three's when we decided. Actually it was 190 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: twenty two, I believe we when quay Walker went off 191 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: the board. We just didn't feel that Devin was going 192 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: to make it the thirty three and we felt it 193 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: we needed to get back yet if if we didn't 194 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: get back in, we're gonna have to go another direction. 195 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: Really didn't want to go another direction. To did what 196 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: we could to get up in there. Trent Backy told 197 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: us in his post draft presser that they were a 198 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: little worried about the New England Patriots with the twenty 199 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: one pick, and once Lloyd got past that, all it 200 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: took was just looking at Doug Peterson and Doug said, yeah, 201 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: let's do it. I love you bring up the Patriots. 202 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: And then what did the Patriots do? They drafted a 203 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: guard from some small school and everything. What did they do? 204 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: That's why let's go hurry up? Yeah. So so, I look, 205 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: I really like the selection of Lloyd. When you watch 206 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: the film on him, he can do anything that any 207 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: linebacker can do. He can be a run stuffer. He 208 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: can be an athletic blitzer. He can cover, he can 209 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: run sideline the sideline. He's got great energy, and I 210 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: think the best thing that I like about him is 211 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: his leadership. When you listen to him talk, you just 212 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: listen and you you kind of gravitate towards him. And 213 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: those are the kind of people that you want. Those 214 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: are the kind of people that you want in front 215 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: of the huddle, which linebackers are in front of the huddle. 216 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: So from that aspect and what he meant to the 217 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: the program of Utah this past year with some of 218 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: the things that, uh, it is pretty amazing. And so 219 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: kudos to him as an individual and looking forward to 220 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: him be a leader. Yes, another one that seems like 221 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: a really just great person overall. For sure, you gotta 222 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: have character counts, and when you're trying to to change 223 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: a culture, so to speak, and we've heard that term 224 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: a lot, it takes people of strong character to change culture. 225 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: And so I think with the first two picks, they've 226 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: hit hit right home. Totally agree home runs coming up 227 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: on Jaguars Happy our outside linebackers coach Bill Shoey joins 228 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: the program Stay with us here on the Jaguars Digital 229 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: Network Live. Look at the new football facility is crazy, 230 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: how much this has changed, even in a week. I 231 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: swear I leave the building every day and something else 232 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: is going up. This is moving really quickly, and everyone 233 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: is excited, especially coaches, and especially this coach. Outside linebacker 234 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: coach Bill Shoey joins us now on Jaguars Happy Hour 235 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: on ten ten, ex selling Jaguars dot Com coach, Thanks 236 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: for joining us, Thanks for having me. It's good to 237 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: be here. Yeah, and that football facility. We're excited about that, right, 238 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: we are. We're very excited about the football facility that 239 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: You're right. The progress is happening fast and never fast enough, 240 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: but we're we are exciting. It's good to see, uh, 241 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: good to see the guys out there working. So you 242 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: talk about exciting times, Uh come in, you're a new 243 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: coach in Jacksonville and you get a couple of picks 244 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: that are pretty high in the draft. That's got to 245 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: be pretty exciting. Yeah, it's very exciting. Must be living, right, 246 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, But yeah, we're excited, uh excited to have 247 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: the new new guys come in. You know, obviously you've 248 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: got a couple of weeks here until they can come 249 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: in so but we're looking forward to that here in 250 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: a few weeks, get them on the field and get 251 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: them maclimated with the team. I think one of the 252 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: questions that I've gotten asked the most since the draft 253 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: has happened is, Jeff, where do you see Travon Walker 254 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: lining up at? And my honest answer is I don't know. 255 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: And that's my question to you is where do you 256 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: see him lining up? I mean, you've got two first 257 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: round picks. One of them was a linebacker, the other 258 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: one played so many different positions. That seems to be 259 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: the question of the last week. Am I allowed to answer? 260 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, absolutely, But as he mentioned, I 261 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: think he mentioned it that, you know, we're gonna try 262 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: to let him settle into one spot and then from there. Obviously, 263 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: the versatility is important. It's part of the reason why 264 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: we drafted him, and we're gonna try to utilize that 265 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: to our advantage at some point in time. But you know, 266 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: early on, we want him to be able to get 267 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: comfortable and and get in one spot, and he'll start 268 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: it outside linebacker and then we'll move from there and uh, 269 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: coach Carl Wells, you know, he's he's got a lot 270 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: of plans as we move forward, but you know, out 271 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: of the gate, he'll he'll be an outside linebacker. Is 272 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: very excited about this draft. I talked to him. He 273 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: was like, he talking about the five picks he got 274 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: and you mentioned that outside linebacker. So say, Trayvon Walker 275 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 1: kills it and he's really good an outside linebacker. Is 276 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: that it does he stay there and that versatility we 277 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: might not see all of it. No, I think at 278 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: some point in time. Again, I don't want to speak 279 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: from Mike, but at some point in time, I I 280 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: would guess that we're gonna use every ounce of versatility 281 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: that he has. I mean, but but it's all going 282 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: to be in due time, and part of that's gonna 283 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: be on him. The faster he gets accomated, the more 284 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: we can kind of spread things out for him and 285 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: and put him in matchup situations that might be to 286 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: his advantage. Until then, it's gonna come down to the 287 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: mental grind of the game and of the position and 288 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: learning the fundamentals of playing on the edge on a 289 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: on a regular basis. And you know, as as soon 290 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: as he can get up to speed on that, the 291 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: more we can kind of utilize his versatility. The draft 292 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: process is so much more involved than what it was 293 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: twenty years ago, to where you have combined interviews, you 294 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: have players coming into your building to talk to them. 295 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: And I'm sure that you guys took advantage with both 296 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: of these opportunities with your two first round picks, because 297 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: when you sit there and you look at what I 298 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: was talking about before we went to a break, before 299 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: you came on about character counts and these two guys, 300 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: these seem to be two individuals that I'm sure you're 301 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: looking very much forward having the ability to coach. Yeah. So, uh, 302 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: they're very you know, they got from what I can 303 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: what I know about Devon, which I don't know him 304 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: as well, because coach Gilbert he'll you know, he'll he's 305 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: got versatility as well, and that's gonna be a key. 306 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: We have a bunch of guys on this defense, not 307 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: just that, not just the two young guys. You know, 308 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: you think about smooth, you think about Art and Key 309 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: amongst others. But the versatility is going to be interesting 310 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: for a coach callwell, how he's gonna move guys around 311 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: and make it hard for offenses to try to I 312 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: d people and and know who might be coming, who 313 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: might not be coming in pressure situations and those type 314 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: of things. But from Trayvon standpoint, you know, the character 315 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: was an important thing, you know, but there was this 316 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: this draft was loaded in the edge position. The guys 317 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: I talked to there were a lot out of really 318 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: good character guys. I mean, that was something. It was. 319 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: That's part of what I enjoy about making the trip 320 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: to Indian talking with the guys. You get to know 321 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of a bunch of the players. You go 322 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: to pro days and and you you kind of you 323 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: get a relationship started with some guys and then and 324 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: then at that point it may stop and you might 325 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: just see him before the game or after a game, 326 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: or what it might be. In other cases like Trayvon, 327 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: and he gets drafted here and now I get to 328 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, get allowed that relationship to grow deeper in 329 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: the trust part, but you want to get started with 330 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: that as soon as possible. And he seems like a 331 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: very high character guy, humble guy um confident though humble 332 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: but confident, and and and a guy that it seems 333 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: really willing and eager to get to work. That's a 334 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: very good balance humble and confident, not arrogant, right, exactly exactly. 335 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: You mentioned the combine and it was interesting General manager 336 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: Trent balky Kemp mentioning it in his post scape or 337 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: his press conference, is how the coaches were so involved 338 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: in this pre draft process. So how were you involved 339 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: beside the combine and all of this. Yeah, yeah, I 340 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: believe he used the word transparent a lot as well, 341 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, and and the process. You had a lot 342 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: of people involved in the process, and so, uh, you know, 343 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: I've been I've been coaching for a long time, and 344 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, I've been blessed to have many years in 345 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: the NFL. This is my third NFL team, and this 346 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: this was a very transparent process, and you know it 347 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: was there were many meetings, many conversations, and so you know, 348 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: I I felt involved in the process, and you know 349 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: I didn't. It doesn't mean that decisions are always easy, 350 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: but it was good to see everybody kind of come 351 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: together on on on their thoughts. Didn't mean that it 352 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,239 Speaker 1: was always you know, there was It's good when you 353 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: have a healthy debates sometimes, but then as the as 354 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: the process goes on, it's good when everybody you have 355 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: healthy debates and then everybody gets on the same page. 356 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: And I thought that was good with the procedure here 357 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: and Trent led that off with with Doug and and Mike, 358 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: and you know, I thought it was very it was 359 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: a very good process. There's so many different pieces that 360 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: that make a puzzle, and what we're talking about here 361 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: is the new pieces. But there's some pieces that are 362 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: already here. And you've had the opportunity to talk and 363 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: to work with some of these guys already. What are 364 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: some of the impressions that have been made upon you 365 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: with the guys that are here. The guys that are 366 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: here are very eager to get going, you can tell. 367 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's been a couple of rough seasons down here, 368 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: and and and it's it's not something that's kind of 369 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: swept under the rug like it's out in the open. 370 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: Guys talk about it. They're using it I think as fuel, 371 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: as motivation. They're open to new ideas. I think they 372 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: also understand, like one of the things we try to 373 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: get accomplished in the outside back room is we I'm 374 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: looking for their ideas. I want their thoughts. I want 375 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: them to challenge some things. You know, trust has earned 376 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: over time. You know, trust is gonna be earned when 377 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: when when they're taught something and they get six success 378 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: shows up on the field based off of those techniques. 379 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: Fundamental as a scheme. Um. So that back and forth 380 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: that we have in the room, you know, these are 381 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: grown men. They're young men, but they're grown men. It's 382 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: good to have that dial log. You know. The flip 383 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: side of that is when you're talking a bunch, you know, 384 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: sometimes the efficiency of the meetings go down because you're 385 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: back and forth. Lest so at the end of the 386 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: day there's a chain of command. But I think the 387 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: dialogue is healthy. I think it's good when they're talking 388 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: because they're asking questions and and you probably know, like 389 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: the best defenses that I've ever been around are the 390 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: ones that are usually most vocal. And how important was 391 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: it for this pre draft process, in this this draft 392 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: as a whole to get Josh Allen some help. Yeah, well, 393 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: you can never have enough or too many good players. 394 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: And uh, and I think that's what's great, you know, 395 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: from this draft adding a guy like Trayvon we you know, 396 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: we'll have an undrafted freeg and added to the room. 397 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: And you already have talented guys like Josh there, and 398 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: Josh is working hard, Calevan is working hard. You have 399 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: Jordan's in there, and then Jamir in the outside back 400 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 1: of room. We've had smooth moving around, a little bit 401 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: alre and key moving around. You've got guys been moving around. 402 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: So all that stuff is good. Um and and iron 403 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: sharpens iron, and the more the more you can create 404 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: competition within within your own building, whether it's whether it's 405 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: in by position group, within the position group, from position 406 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: group to position group, within the defense, in the offense 407 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: and the defense. As long as everybody's moving in the 408 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: same direction, I think it's a positive to talk about 409 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: the relationship that you have with Doug Peterson. There's a 410 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: little familiarity going back a few years, isn't there. Yeah, 411 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: So you know it's I was a young intern when 412 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: Doug was signed by Philadelphia, so I started on My 413 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: first internship in Philly was in so um I intern. 414 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: Doug was was the quarterback there, which he probably doesn't 415 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: remember me at that time, but I remember him coming 416 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: in and then and then you know, I I I 417 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: was afforded some opportunities. I worked hard, afforded some opportunities 418 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: by coach Read in Philadelphia, to stay there for ten years, 419 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: and through that. Through those ten years, I had a 420 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: couple of different jobs and moved around and just continue 421 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: to work work with some really really good coaches, learned 422 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: a lot one of Mike call Well um. But but 423 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: Doug also was one of those coaches that came in 424 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: after he retired when in you know, coaching, and then 425 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: got into to the NFL, and so Doug was Doug 426 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: was coaching on offense when I was coaching on defense 427 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: there for a couple of years and we overlapped. It's funny, 428 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: everyone says when when he first got hired, Everyone's like, 429 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna love this guy. He's such a good guy. 430 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: But he he really is a breath of fresh air 431 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: in this building. And everyone says how relatable he isn't 432 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: It's funny. I was walking down the hallway the other 433 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: day and he's talking to Brandon Sheriff about turkey hunting, 434 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: and it's just like he's just such a normal person 435 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: who's just a really good football coach. It seems, well, 436 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: it's it's it's great to be a good football coach. 437 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: It's important to have good people around and that's part 438 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: of the culture, and that was part of the high 439 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: character guys that we drafted. And you and you hear 440 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: those themes and they just it's the world is around, 441 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: and it's it's cyclical and and good people, good coaches, 442 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: you know, good players, hopefully good results and and that's 443 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: that's the thought process, with a lot of hard work 444 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: in between and and some of that back and forth 445 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: that we talked about too, you know, and and uh, 446 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, Iron Sharpen's iron, but you've gotta be able 447 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: to you gotta be able to stretch and pool and 448 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: and grind and sweat and all that other stuff that 449 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: you know goes in to be and a good football team. Okay, 450 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: so iron Sharpen's iron. But the boy, the weather certainly 451 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: does make it feel a lot better when you're doing 452 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: all of that. So last year you in Chicago right 453 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: as a coach, and now you got your family down 454 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: here in Florida and Jackson all they gotta be loving it. Yeah, obviously, Uh, 455 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: the weather is great. And the one thing Coach Towns 456 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: that and I who were in Chicago last year as 457 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: well as Chris Jackson was in was in Chicago, and 458 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: Coach Towns and I were saying that the one thing 459 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: we're not gonna do this year is complained about the heat. 460 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: So you can hold me too that it's gonna be 461 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure. I know that's gonna be the case. I 462 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: know I'm naive by saying that, but but after being 463 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: in Chicago, and I love Chicago is a great city 464 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: and a great team. I love the players there and everything. 465 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: But great restaurants, great food, just like Philadelphia by the way, 466 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: and uh, you know everything. But we're looking forward. The 467 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: family is looking forward to a fresh start. I'm looking 468 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: forward to a fresh start. There's good people down here 469 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: on the staff and so um you. We're excited, and 470 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: the palm trees and the beach always helped to I'm 471 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna ask you about that heat thing again. 472 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: About August. I know it, that's okay, time hate it. It 473 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: It gets hot for a while once you get into September. 474 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: You know, you're so used to that fall, that hint 475 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 1: of fall. It ain't happening in September. About October, it's 476 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: gonna happen, all right, It's gonna together. Yes, we make 477 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: it work somehow, someway, coach, do we thank you so 478 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: much for joining us on Jaguars Happy Hour, thanks for 479 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: having very nice, nice of you here. Absolutely much more 480 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: to come here on the Jaguars Digital Network. The Jaguars 481 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: are future focus and ready for a new look in 482 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: Join us at the bank this season as head coach 483 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: Don Peterson and quarterback Trevor Lawrence lead the charge to 484 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: lock in your seasons at Jaguars dot Com, Slash tickets 485 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: are called nine oh four six three three two thousand. 486 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: The funt offering, you know what, the coaches kind of 487 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: wanted to keep, you know, some of the staples around 488 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: just to kind of build around and kind of you know, 489 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: start started to form that what we want to ultimately 490 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: make get done here so long. I mean, I think 491 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: it's just a great thing that's keeping guys around, and 492 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: we brought in kind of home grown um myself, Josh 493 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: Ship or whoever else we decide we'll keep around. Left 494 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: tackle Cam Robinson a very happy guy this week, getting 495 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: a contract extension, very well earned. Welcome back to Jaguars 496 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: Happy Are, Intent ten Excel and Jaguars dot Com. Ashlan 497 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: Sullivan and Jeff log I'm in here with you this week. 498 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: JP Shatterick on a much during vacation and Cam Robinson 499 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: big news, Jeff. We saw this coming. It was a 500 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: work in progress and we were wondering, Okay, what's taken 501 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: so long, when's it gonna happen. Finally happened. You have 502 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: your guy, your set, and now there's some key peace 503 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: down the offensive line. You feel pretty good about. Yeah. 504 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were kind of curious 505 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: as to what would happen with Cam and would that 506 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: impact what the Jaguars do with that first overall pick 507 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: and so um I said this a couple of weeks ago, 508 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: that the the starting point for Cam had to be 509 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: the franchise number this year plus what the expected increase 510 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: was gonna be with franchise tag next year. That's kind 511 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: of where you were starting that from a guaranteed money standpoint. 512 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: And I think it's a fair deal for both sides. 513 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: When I say that that, uh, many people were expecting 514 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: the market to climb much higher for left tackles this offseason, 515 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: but it really didn't. With the Armstead deal not being 516 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: as lucrative. I think that that brought some of the 517 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: reality down for the Cam Robinson contract. And I think 518 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: it's a good contract for the team, and uh, it 519 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: gives them stability as far as Okay, we know who 520 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: are left tackle now is going to be and now 521 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: we have two guys that are going to compete on 522 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: the right side, and then we'll just figure out how 523 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: things work out from there. So that's the way you 524 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: wanted though them. You know, you keep hearing coaches, including 525 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: Bill should We, who we just had in the seat 526 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: right here, talk about iron sharp AND's iron and that's 527 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: when you get more competition in the room. It makes 528 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: everybody better. And so bringing Cam back, even though many 529 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: people are like, oh you just move on, you put 530 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: Walker a little in the left tackle and go find 531 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: a right tackle. Well that's all easier said than done. 532 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's better to keep some of the components you got, 533 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: continue to add to it, allow the competition to work 534 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, And that was a point that Doug 535 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: Peterson me to us at the combine and he was like, hey, 536 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: I get the narrative, and I get the narrative is 537 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: the Jaguars at times don't keep good players. They train 538 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: them away or they don't get to that second contract. 539 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: And he was like, I'm trying to change that narrative. 540 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: And he talked to us about Cam Robinson and Josh 541 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: Ellen at the combine. So you're kind of seeing this 542 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: trend start, like they're recognizing talent and saying, we got 543 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: to keep it in this building. Well, and Cam still 544 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: has to get better, and I mean this is not 545 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: a I don't think he's a finished product. I think 546 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: he can still get a lot better. I think his 547 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: technique and some of his fundamentals need to get better. 548 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: And I think his new offensive line coach is gonna 549 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: be I think a big help to him, because coaching matters, 550 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: and the more discipline, the fundum mentals and footwork become. 551 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: To give you an example, accellent years ago when I 552 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: was playing defensive end and was a young defensive end. 553 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: I'll never forget going against an older Mike Ken of 554 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons, and Mike was in your eighteen or 555 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: whatever it was. I mean it was a lot of 556 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: one eighteen, but it might have been. I mean it 557 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,959 Speaker 1: was long, you know, long tooth and uh and I 558 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: just remember looking at the physical abilities of Mike at 559 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: that time saying I got him, Yeah, you know, I 560 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: got him. But Mike was impeccable about every step that 561 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: he took, was so disciplined and so where it needed 562 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: to be. That his sets and his fundamentals cut off 563 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: a lot of possibilities for you as a defensive player 564 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: just because he was on point, not because he was big, fast, strong, tough, 565 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: because his fundamentals were there. And I think that that's 566 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: something that Cam needs to strive to get words. Because 567 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: he has the athletic ability, he has the physical makeup, 568 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: he's a good run blocker, he's tough as nails, but 569 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: the fundamentals need to get better for him to take 570 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: that next up. And I think he can take that 571 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: next up. I think they said that's when you know, 572 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: that's why they franchise atacked him as they saw potential 573 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: and they saw he could get there. So it's definitely interesting. 574 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: And then they draft Luke Fortner and it was funny. 575 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: We had Tyler Shatley on Jaguary's Drive Time a couple 576 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and Tyler Shatley and I go to 577 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: the same gym, so we see each other all the time. 578 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: And every time I see me go as Ashland, you 579 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: bench pressed with him and everything. Yeah, we've bench about 580 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: the same, so we've really been training together. And he 581 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: tells me at the gym He's like, I'm training because 582 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: what if a draft pick comes in and sure enough, 583 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: Luke Forartner comes right on, And so I'm really curious 584 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: how that shakes out. I'm pulling from my gym buddy. 585 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: But Luke Forwartner seems to have that upside too well. 586 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: He's first team All SEC at the Powerhouse University of Kentucky, 587 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: Okay teammates a former teammates with Josh Allen. The reality 588 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: is is that he's a good football player. I think 589 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: he's got to work on some things when it comes 590 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: to getting to that second level. Some of that stuff 591 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: is not as easy. But a good in line blocker 592 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: and uh, I like him. He's got size, but he's 593 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: got a lot to work on. And it's it's hard 594 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: to overcome experience when you're a young player like that. 595 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: And Tyler Shatley is a good football player. He is 596 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: a good football player, and he has starting caliber abilities 597 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: and uh, he's been around the block. He knows all 598 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: the tricks of the trade. And by the way, Ashley, 599 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: you're not bench pressing with him because one of the 600 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: strongest guys that there is in the weight room. He 601 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: is estimate, he is ye know, he's one of the 602 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: strongest guys. Now he's you know, he's a big, strong guy. 603 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: So so I think it's gonna take a little time 604 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: for Wartner. But again that's good for the room. Competition 605 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: is good make everybody better. Yeah, you mentioned competition, and 606 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: this is the question I had for you. Um with 607 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: Chad Muma and I was talking to him and he 608 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: and he really it's a doubt how intelligent he is 609 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: in his communication skills. And he brought up so many 610 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: examples of when he wore the green dot in different situations. 611 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: In my head when I'm talking to him like all right, 612 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: that's your starter, that's that's your play collar. And then 613 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: I was talking to John and Brian like not so fast. 614 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's starting right away. That's another 615 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: position group where it's it's really interesting how this is 616 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: going to shake out. Yeah, and just to explain the 617 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: green dot because some people don't know what that means. 618 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: In the NFL, a defensive player or an offensive player, 619 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: if it has a player to coach communication set in 620 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: the helmet, that's what the green dot signifies. So lets 621 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: people know that this guy has that communication ability. And 622 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: so green dot typically for on the defensive side of 623 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: the ball as a linebacker, and he's the guy that's 624 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: calling plays in front of the huddle, so he's a 625 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: leader and he can get people lined up. He can 626 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: handle handle the added responsibility, and that's what Movement has 627 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: been in college. He's been a very highly productive player. 628 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: He's kind of a prototypical linebacker, shoulders, square, of tough. 629 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: When he gets there, he knocks Pete back. I think 630 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: that was the one thing that really stood out on 631 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: film with him is that when he struck people, he's 632 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,479 Speaker 1: big and strong. Now when he's big and strong, he's 633 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: knocking people back. But he's athletic. He can play multiple downs, 634 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: I think in the National Football League, I don't think 635 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: he's a natural blitzer like a like a Lloyd is, 636 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: but but I think he's he can be a three 637 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: down linebacker. Where he plays at I think it's gonna 638 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: be interesting as far as where a Loui Khan is 639 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: gonna be, where a Lloyd's gonna be, where Muma is 640 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: gonna be, because typically you got two inside positions, okay, 641 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: uh you know, and in the outside guys who were 642 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: talking Josh Allen and a smooth and a Travon Walker. So, uh, 643 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be interesting to see how they 644 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: line up. It is it isn't. Options are a great thing, 645 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: coptition and and the other thing, look if if if 646 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: he's not starting, then and he will be a significant 647 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: backup and a contributor on special teams, which is a 648 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: big part of winning to getting your special teams better. 649 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: And what do you think of Snoop Connor? This was 650 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: that's you know, he's a guy that doesn't put it 651 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: this way when he gets into the open field or 652 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: he sees that you know, or you see him get 653 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: in the open field what we perceive as the open field. 654 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: And right there we just saw where he made a 655 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: defender number eleven miss. He doesn't do that a lot 656 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: a lot of times. He is just a power guy. 657 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: And what I love most about watching him is that 658 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: when you hand him the ball and you need a 659 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: yard or two, he's gonna get you a yard or two. 660 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: He and he's a very strong finisher at the goal line, 661 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: very strong finisher in short yardage. And you have two 662 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: running backs already in the room that are really good 663 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: or expected to be good. Because et N still hasn't 664 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: proven it at the National Football League level because he 665 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: missed the entirety of his rookie year. We know j 666 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: Rob can do it, but both of these guys are 667 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: coming off significant injuries, So how is that going to 668 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: affect them this year? So adding to that room I 669 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: think was was gonna happen. I didn't know how it 670 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: would happen what had happened as a draft pick or 671 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent, but I'm glad they added to it. 672 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: And this is a guy that doesn't have a lot 673 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: of miles. Okay, mileage matters when it comes to running backs. 674 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: You don't want to have a guy that that has 675 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand miles on the odometer and hasn't had 676 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: the old changes and all the upgrades throughout his existence. 677 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: And he's getting to you like damage goods. This is 678 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: a guy that was in a rotation and he's gonna 679 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: be fresh and ready to go. Yeah, just like my car, 680 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: Just like my jeep, I don't take it in for 681 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: oil change. My dad gets so mad. He's like, oh 682 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: my god, it's been five thous miles. You don't want 683 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: that guy. No, you don't want that guy. And and uh, 684 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: and he's a physical back and and one thing you 685 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: always look at a lot of these young players that 686 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: come out of college and they come in the National 687 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: Football League and you say, Okay, now they're playing with 688 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: grown men. I'll never forget when I made the jump 689 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: from college to pros, and the biggest thing that I 690 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: noticed was we had some guys that were big physically 691 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: in college at Virginia. And then you go to the 692 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: locker room in the National Football League or any locker room, 693 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: and you go, oh my god. I mean, like, the 694 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: best of the best that you had in college are 695 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 1: now everywhere in your locker room in the National Football League. 696 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: And so you expect guys to take some time to develop, 697 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: continue to develop physically. Okay, this young man Connor is 698 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: walking in the building and guys are gonna go, oh yeah, 699 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: he's ready to go. Physically, Oh yeah, he's he's ready 700 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: to go. Exciting Draft five at a set in defense, 701 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: but some key contributions on offense as well. When we 702 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: come back on Jaguars Happy Hour, around the NFL, lots 703 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: to talk about a lot of drama going on this week, 704 00:34:53,640 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: we'll be back. One of one of my first UM 705 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: meetings really was with with our our London team and 706 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: and meeting, meeting all the all the folks that are 707 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: involved with the trip. And so we we have our 708 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: our our plan in place and and we're we're ready 709 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: for you know, for for the trip and obviously the 710 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: game October. And so you know, it's something you do 711 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: have to spend some time and think about the travel 712 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: and getting all your guys a year and equipment and 713 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: the technology over there, um, you know, as an organization, 714 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: and and you gotta do it early. And so we've 715 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 1: done that with our plan in place and we're just 716 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: kind of waiting on the week to get here. Hey, 717 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: Coach Doug Peterson discussing the big news this week. The 718 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: Jaguars will play the Broncos in London this season, coming 719 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: up October thirty, Halloween weekend in London. Very cool. Welcome 720 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: back to Jaguars Happy Hour ont ten, Excel and Jaguars 721 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: dot Com. Ashland Sullivan and Jeff Lockman here with you 722 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: this week. This is gonna be a really cool game. 723 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson versus Trevor Lawrence talk about an incredible competition 724 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: for Trevor. Well, first of all, Trevor had great success 725 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 1: there last year, big win and beat the Miami offense 726 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 1: and the first rookie to ever win over in London. 727 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: So I think that this is a football team in 728 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: the Jaguars that organizationally has the experience of going over there, 729 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: and that helps a lot for for the Denver Broncos. 730 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: This is gonna be a little new because I think 731 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: this is the first I think that this year, after 732 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: the completion of this year, with all the games that 733 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: will be over in Europe, that every team in the 734 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: league will have been to Europe. That's at some point 735 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: after this year. And uh, the first game of the year, 736 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 1: I think, what is Tampa in Seattle and that's in Germany, 737 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: I guess. And that's gonna be a nine thirty game 738 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: East Coast. That's a six thirty game in Seattle. I 739 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: can't keep up. Yeah, it's yeah. So it's uh. And 740 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 1: I like the nine start, which I wish every Yeah, 741 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: so I like the morning football games. I don't know 742 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: if I'd like the sixth third am games for the 743 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks fans, but I think it's a great matchup 744 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 1: because the Denver Broncos. I mean, the way you look 745 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: at the Denver Broncos now with them having Russell Wilson 746 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: has completely changed now you look at them as a contender. Yeah, 747 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: I mean you really crazy offseason for them, So I 748 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a great matchup. I think it's 749 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: gonna be UH And hopefully Trevor takes a big jump 750 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: this year because you're gonna have to play well at 751 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback position to be able to have a chance 752 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 1: to beat a Russell Wilson led football team because he's 753 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: that good. Yeah, not to mention he hasn Daniel Hackett, 754 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: who are very familiar with and he's Yeah. He was 755 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: talking to the Broncos broadcast department this morning we did 756 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: the podcast about this London game, and I was like, 757 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: how much do you love them? And They're like, don't 758 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: even get me started, Like, you guys are gonna love 759 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: working with him. One of the greatest film room segments 760 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: that that I've ever had the opportunity to be a 761 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: part of was with Nathaniel Hackett when we did the UH. 762 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: I think it was the r p O stuff, the 763 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: read options stuff, and he took us on the grease 764 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: board on all the things that can happen and the 765 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 1: abilities that you can have with the with that stuff. 766 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: And uh and it was awesome and I learned so 767 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: much from him and if he if he has, And 768 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 1: that's the thing I think that's very unique about Nathaniel 769 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: Hackett is that he's got a very unique ability to 770 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: teach in a very easy way of of making things understandable, 771 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: which is all about coaching. That's what you're trying to 772 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: do is get players to understand what you're trying to accomplish. 773 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: And so I think he'll be very successful. I think 774 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and from what I've read, Russell Wilson loves him, 775 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: and so looking forward to seeing him there and looking 776 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: forward to the matchup because I think it's a really 777 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: good matchup, especially for h for the people and the 778 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: fans over there in London. Yeah, it's um. They were 779 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: doing a social media segment with Nathaniel Hacking. You mentioned 780 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: how good he is about being on the film room 781 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: and everything, and they got going on him explaining a 782 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: play and I swear because I watched your film rooms 783 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: and they're fantastic and I learned a lot. He was 784 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 1: seriously speaking another language. He is. He's like a wind 785 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: up toys as a broadcaster, because you know you'll always 786 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: want to ask the right question. And with with Nate, 787 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 1: it's very rare that you don't ask the right question 788 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: because he's just he's got a he's got a gift 789 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: and uh and it's fun to listen to and you know, 790 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: he comes from a football family and he football has 791 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 1: been his life and uh. And one of the most 792 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: disappointing moments I've ever had here was when when Doug 793 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: Marone fired him as the offensive cord and I was like, 794 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: come on, come on, just for us, keep on, you know, so, yes, 795 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: very much. So let's go around the NFL. A lot 796 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: going on this week, that's for sure. I want to 797 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: start with something I saw on Twitter that absolutely cracked 798 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 1: me up. Yesterday's a fan put out about Trevor Lawrence 799 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: and improving his play and they said, man, what if 800 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: he's got this jump pass next season? Like Patrick Mahomes. 801 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: Taylor Lawan retweets this, who is with the Titans as 802 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: announcements as sure as hell? No hope not. Well, Taylor W. 803 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: Lawan is is quite the personality. They what's the podcast 804 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,439 Speaker 1: stuff that he does? Oh, it's something with the what's 805 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: it called that they're in a bus? Helped me out. 806 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: They have a couple of different guys with the boys 807 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 1: busting with the boys. Yes, yeah, and uh, and it 808 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: does a good job. And so anyway, it's a great response, 809 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,760 Speaker 1: so you know, because somebody wrote that and he responds 810 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: to it because obviously the Titans being in the division. 811 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: So yeah, he's a he is when you watch Teller 812 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: Lawan play football on game day, he is so overly dramatic. Yes, 813 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. And that's why he has a podcast. And 814 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: so I mean he's a natural fit for getting in 815 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: front of a microphone or from the TV camera. I 816 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: mean that's uh, he's gonna have an easy second career. 817 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: I can tell you that. Yes, And let's stick with 818 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: the Titans because I'm part of the problem because I 819 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,959 Speaker 1: put this in the rundown and I have to talk 820 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: about it and we have to talk about it. But 821 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: I saw it at first what happened with Ryan Tannehill. 822 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: And I'm sure if you do not know, he was 823 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: talking about coaching up his rookie quarterback and he said, 824 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: that's not my job to coach him up. We're fighting 825 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: for a job here and I'm not here to mentor 826 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: young quarterback. I'm here to be the starter for the Titans, 827 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: huge backlash, like is always on the worst guy in 828 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: the world. I kind of agree with him, but now 829 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's it's not a big deal, Like why 830 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: people making such a big deal of this, and now 831 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about it on this show, so I'm part 832 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: of the problem. Well, Ryan Tannehill is right, it's not 833 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: the starting quarterbacks job to mentor that's why they pay coaches. 834 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: And is it the starting quarterbacks job to be a 835 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,280 Speaker 1: good teammate? Yes? And will you help if asked? Absolutely? 836 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: But I understand his response in his response if you, 837 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: if you would, if you could have said it a 838 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: different way, he could have probably what what it went 839 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: ahead and said, hey, look, the first job that I 840 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: need to worry about is getting myself ready to play, 841 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: because that's my responsibility. I get paid to be the 842 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: starting quarterback. I need to get ready to be the 843 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: starting quarterback. If I can help him along the way 844 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,760 Speaker 1: while I'm doing all of that in preparation for my responsibility, 845 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: than great. I mean it's the way you answer it. 846 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he's Ryan Tannehill is not a bad guy. 847 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: He's not trying to He's not trying to shun a 848 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: draft pick just because he plays the same position of him, 849 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 1: and he's worried about this young quarterback coming in and 850 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: taking his job. That's not what the response was all about. 851 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,439 Speaker 1: I think one of the more interesting things that Ryan 852 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: Hill Ryan Tannehill said and part of this press conference, 853 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: was that he had to get psychological help from the 854 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: playoff loss that they experienced last year against the Cincinnati Bengals. 855 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 1: That's a hard admit right there, and for starting quarterback 856 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: in the National Football leagu to be so forthright and 857 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 1: to say, hey, look, I had a really hard time. 858 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: I was in a dark place. I needed to get 859 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: help to help get over that loss that we had. 860 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: And I think he had three interceptions in that game 861 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: or something like that in the Tennessee Titans ended up 862 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: losing that football game, and how he talked about how 863 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 1: he needed help, and then couple that with the loss 864 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: of A. J. Brown, his wide receiver to Philipel Fiagles. 865 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: Then he talks also about that and how it impacted him. 866 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, look, I think the one 867 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 1: thing I think that a lot of fans expect out 868 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,439 Speaker 1: of NFL players as they expect them to be superhuman. 869 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 1: Oh well, he should always help out the young player. 870 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: He should always be a good teammate. Well, he is 871 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: a good teammate. Nobody's ever said anything bad about Ryan 872 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 1: and Ryan Tannehill ever. He's been a great teammate, and 873 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 1: we also expect to play it all. He's tough, toughen up, 874 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: you know, cupcake, you know take you know, move forward 875 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: and get better. Well, let mean, look, he lost a 876 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: football game and a lot of it is in part 877 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: to his performance, and that's a hard thing to kind 878 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: of bounce back from. So I give Ryan tanny Hill 879 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: a lot of credit for being so honest and uh 880 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,439 Speaker 1: and I know that Tennessee Titans had some discussions about 881 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: possibly replacing him this year. I root for Tanney Hill 882 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: on game days that they're not playing the Jaguars because 883 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: I like how he handles his business. I always have 884 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: U He's been a really good pro and and I 885 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: think he's the type of quarterback that you want to 886 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: see when Yeah, totally agree. He's gone through a lot 887 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: in his career, a lot of stops along the way 888 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 1: and kind of the ultimate success story making it to 889 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: the Titans and now having so much success because there 890 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: were times growing up in South Florida with the Dolphins. 891 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 1: I was like, this guy is never gonna make it, 892 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: and now look at him out. Yeah, that's it. I 893 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: like him. I think that put it this way. If 894 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm John Robinson, who's the general manager of the Tennessee Titans, 895 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: I like my quarterback Ryan Tannehill. I don't love him. 896 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 1: I like him and love him personally, but professionally, I 897 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: still want to find a way to find a franchise guy. Yeah, 898 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: I get that. I mean, he's not the Mahomes, he's 899 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: not the guy that he's going to play for another 900 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,359 Speaker 1: ten years. But you still got to appreciate what he 901 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: is and what he does for your franchise. But at 902 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: the end of the day, as a general manager, you're 903 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: intasked with finding a franchise tight solution, and Ryan Tannehill, 904 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: in my opinion, is not that. But I appreciate it. Yeah, 905 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: probably another what two years, and then you go and 906 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: try to find the next step. You're looking right now, 907 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 1: right now, I mean that's you. You're you're already looking. 908 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 1: That's you never stop looking now. You might not expend 909 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: the resources right now as far as the high end resource, 910 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: but you're you're looking right now there put it this way, 911 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: the draft pick that they have as a quarterback, they 912 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: didn't draft him with the expectation, well, you know, he's 913 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: just going to be a backup, practice squad the guy. Yeah, 914 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 1: you know. They look, hey, look he's got a chance 915 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: and hopefully he can develop and be a franchise guy 916 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: and replace Ryan tanneut Ye one day. Speaking of quarterbacks, 917 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: this is crazy. Where the heck is Baker Mayfield going 918 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: to play? This here? Great question. I still believe that 919 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: Seattle would be a great place for him to end up. 920 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 1: UH Seattle's system has always kind of been built around 921 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: the foundation of a running game, and I think that 922 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is that type of quarterback. And that's not 923 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: to to criticize him, but it's to be realistic and 924 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 1: that what you know. And and the other thing too, 925 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield last year what I love about him. He 926 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:40,399 Speaker 1: played hurt the entire year and toughness and availability are 927 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 1: always two traits at the quarterback position that you want 928 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:48,280 Speaker 1: to have, and UH Seattle has a need. They currently 929 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: have um one quarterback under contract, Gino Smiths for I 930 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: think with incentives somewhere around seven million, which is not 931 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 1: that cost prohibited to keep you from going out and 932 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,919 Speaker 1: get into Baker Mayfield. So I think Aker Mayfield would 933 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: be a great guy to put into that Seattle system 934 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: until they can find maybe their guy, and maybe Baker 935 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: Mayfield does so can develop into that guy. I don't 936 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: know that, but I wouldn't be happy if I was 937 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: Seattle before I'm at right now, No, it's not good enough. 938 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 1: Another guy Carolina has got a draft pick. They got 939 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, who they gave up draft picks for last 940 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: year and probably regret it right now. Um, I don't 941 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,399 Speaker 1: know if that would happen, because you're Sam Donald has 942 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: guaranteed money for this year. You can't let him go. 943 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: If you do, you still got to pay them. So 944 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: it's uh. The reality is it's Seattle is not going 945 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: to trade for him and then probably just letting him 946 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 1: say so. Maybe Seattle just says, hey, look, we'll we'll 947 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 1: just be patient and we'll wait until we can just 948 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: get them for free. That kind of seems because that 949 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 1: there was a lot of talk, especially early on the draft, 950 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: of thinking is this the week and everything kind of settle. 951 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: When I say when I say free, I mean not 952 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 1: like free, like they're not gonna pay like a Wendy Chicken. 953 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: They don't want to give up draft picks together. And 954 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: then the Browns are a whole another story. Yeah, that's 955 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: it's weird generally, Shawn Watson thing. Yeah, I don't know 956 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: what's going to happen there, but you know, here, here's 957 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: one thing to consider too though. The way the NFL 958 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: has instituted the um what's the word the punishment system, 959 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 1: it's changed in recent years. So the person that determines 960 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: what the punishment is going to be as a person 961 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: that now is jointly paid by the NFL Players Association 962 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: and the NFL, so we're in the past it's kind 963 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: of been all commissioner based. So now that person is, uh, 964 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: what's the right way to say it, less more or 965 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: less inclined to be as harsh maybe per se just 966 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: because half of that checks coming from the NFL A maybe, 967 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: But I think that's gonna be in an interesting watch 968 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: what happens air. And then the commissioner does have the 969 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 1: ability to modify what that person decides. It's kind of 970 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: a tricky language. I was reading about that just recently, 971 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: and the commissioner it'll be an interesting watch. We'll just 972 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 1: say it put it that way. For DeShawn Watson, is 973 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: he gonna play this year? Is he gonna be suspended? 974 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,280 Speaker 1: How is the fans? Are they gonna embrace him in Cleveland? 975 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he's gonna play. I don't know. 976 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna be crazy. And here's the thing. When he 977 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 1: goes to other cities, they're gonna have chance get a 978 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: masside to Sean. Do you think that Jacksville was crazy? 979 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: Just buckle up for that. Wait till he has to 980 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: go to Philly. Oh god, I'm scared for him. Thank 981 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 1: you for tuning into Jaguars Happy Hour. Jeff Logiman and 982 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,359 Speaker 1: Nashal Sullivan here with you. Stay with us on ten 983 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: ten X. I'l thank you for tuning into Jaguars dot Com. 984 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: Not it's busy of a week because done Jaguars dot 985 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,879 Speaker 1: Com as it was last week. But we're hanging in there, 986 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: so stay with us the rest of the offseason. Rookie 987 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: Mini Camp next week. We love all your coverage. Stay 988 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: with us for next week. M