1 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 4 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Broughness, Rob Phillips, 5 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: and Bill Jones, and welcome into Talking Cowboys inside the 6 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage studio from the Star in Frisco. I am 7 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. I'm joined as always by Mickey Spagnola. Brian 8 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: brought us across the table from me. Bill Jones will 9 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow to wrap up the week as the 10 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys finish up their prep for those Miami Dolphins Sunday 11 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: noon kickoff at AT and T Stadium. How are you, gents? 12 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: I'm good. How are you doing well? Doing well? If 13 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: you go back and listen to yesterday's show, there were 14 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: some hints, there were some possibilities that Taco Charlton would 15 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: not be on this roster at three pm on Wednesday, 16 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: and that turned out to be the case to get 17 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: Robert Quinn on the roster. And that's that's the top 18 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: storyline today. We can start there, but there's other things 19 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: we need to get into with this roster right now 20 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: and maybe talk about some key matchups with the Dolphins 21 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: as well. Over the next forty five minutes. We'll take 22 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: your calls as well. Five to two nine seven. Briant 23 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: is monitoring periscope. Sure well, thank you and good morning. Yea, 24 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: so news comes down, Taco is no longer on this roster. 25 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: Anything else come up that you guys got on why 26 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: what the impact is for this team for this weekend 27 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: beyond as well? Well, I think if you follow the 28 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: logic that we were talking about yesterday, the fact that 29 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,839 Speaker 1: he had a guaranteed base salary, the fact that they 30 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: had injuries on the defensive line and they needed all 31 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: hands on deck, and the fact that he was a 32 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: first round draft choice, the logic said, well, they're going 33 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: to keep them. But their level of dissatisfaction with him 34 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: was so high that it wiped out all the logic 35 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: we pointed out of why you should keep them, and 36 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: I think that spoke volumes about how he did not 37 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: fit on this team, did not fit in the locker room, 38 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: and most of all, didn't fit in that defensive line 39 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: meeting room, to the point where they were like, okay, 40 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: we're washing our hands of this. It's it's we've talked 41 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: about it long enough, we spend enough energy trying to 42 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: figure it out, make it work. It was time to 43 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: take out the eraser and move on. Yeah, well said, 44 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean that's exactly. You know, everything that you feel 45 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: like would be logical, you know, the injury, the money situation, 46 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: all that just did not matter to them, you know. 47 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: And I know there was a couple of days ago 48 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: that I was like, ah, may I move on and 49 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: move on? And then I'm like, no, wait a minute, 50 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: need to think about this the logical way that what 51 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: Mickey was talking about, you know. And I even asked 52 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett about that in the walk off, about the 53 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: situation with Taco, the injury and all that, and he says, no, 54 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: these are conversations you have. But we felt like this 55 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: was the best thing for our organization moving forward. So 56 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: coaches scouts everybody on board to move on and to 57 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: eat you know, four and a half million dollars worth 58 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: of money, and then turn around and say, Okay, he 59 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: needs a fresh start. We need a fresh start, and 60 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: we'll do with what we have. You know, Ry Hyder 61 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: and and and Dorian's armstrong and all those guys that 62 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, Joe Jackson, you know, we're we feel good 63 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: about them, and we're just going to push forward. So, uh, 64 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: this says a lot about their decision. It says a 65 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: lot about what they thought about the player, and and 66 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: know it for them to move on the way they 67 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: have is it's a it's a it's a big move. 68 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: It's a bold move because there's a lot of things 69 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: here that says you need to keep this guy to 70 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: try and make it work. And if you just look 71 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: at the eye test, you know there were things that 72 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: were some some positivity, you know when you watch some 73 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: practices and when you watch the games. But to them 74 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: that really didn't matter. Maybe it mattered to us, but 75 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: to them that didn't matter. And they're the ones ultimately 76 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: that have to play the games. They have to find 77 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: a way to win these games in order to keep 78 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: their positions and their jobs and stuff. So they're always 79 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: going to do what they feel like it's the best 80 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: in their mind, not what Brian brought us thinks, but 81 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: what's the best in their in their mind. And so 82 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, I applaud them because I'm one of these 83 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: guys that believes that if you don't evaluate your team correctly, 84 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: you'll never be good. Your team will never be good 85 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: if you if you mis evaluate your team. Trust me, 86 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: I've been on teams where we mis evaluated our personnel 87 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: and stuck with guys way too long and it doesn't work. 88 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: You get worse that way. And they felt like with 89 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: Tacco that they can move on and they would all 90 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: be better for it. And again that's on them, and 91 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: you know, hey, their decisions have been pretty spot on 92 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: about players. And you know, if you want to say 93 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: they keep burning through first round picks, that's not the 94 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: case at all. Disorganization. That's what made the move so 95 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: surprising because of how well they have drafted for several 96 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: years with Will McClay running that draft room. Of course, 97 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: Steven Jones and Jerry Jones involved in that as well. Mickels, 98 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: I think you had it in your mix shots yesterday. 99 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: The last time this happened before a first round pick 100 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: with this team, this end of his deal. Yeah, yeah, 101 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: this early. At least not get into your fourth year 102 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: and not because of injury. You have to go back 103 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: to Rod Hill in nineteen eighty two, he was a 104 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: first round draft choice. He played two years for the 105 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: Cowboys and they moved on, you know, And I think 106 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: this is one of those things where you've heard this before. 107 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: You don't want to make two mistakes. The first mistake is, Okay, 108 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: I drafted this guy. The second mistake is I'm going 109 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: to write it as far as I can write it. 110 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: People will do that organization, They won't cut, they won't 111 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: they won't admit the mistake. And then you make a 112 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: second mistake. And and I think, you know some of this. 113 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: I just think it had to do with you have 114 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: a sulking player with a with it, paired with a 115 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, defensive line coach who's all about heart and efforts, 116 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: being all in. Yeah, and the last thing and if 117 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: he can't get through to a guy who's sulking, and 118 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: you got this feeling he was sulking. And you know, 119 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: this wasn't a knee jerk reaction. Let's let's remember the 120 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: end of last year. He was inactive in four games 121 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: on the second half of the season on a team 122 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: that was playing well. So there had to be a 123 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: reason for that too. And it wasn't like they had 124 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: all this depth at you know, defensive end. So again, 125 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: this was a compilation of a lot of things going on, 126 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: and they just decided, okay, time to move on. And 127 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: as Jason said, and you know, I don't hate him. 128 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: Give him a chance to go somewhere else and maybe 129 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: he can jumpstart his career. Yeah, Will McClay will wear 130 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: this one. You know, if you want to give Will 131 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: McClay credit for what they've done and stuff like that, 132 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: and Will McClay will wear this one. You know, most 133 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: really good personnel guys do. These are the ones that 134 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: hurt though. You know, when you felt like that, hey, 135 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: we went through this process. We felt like we did 136 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: the right thing. But now you go back and evaluate, Okay, 137 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: what were we thinking about this particular player. What did 138 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: we see in this particular player. Did we feel like 139 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: that we could make him tougher? Was he not tough 140 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: when he came in? You know, all these things kind 141 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: of now play in your mind. Not to let it 142 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: happen again. But Will McClay will wear this one, and 143 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: you know what, he won't. He won't back down from it. 144 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: And I respect organizations that will wear their mistakes. You 145 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: just can't make a lot of them because again, you'll 146 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: be doing something else for a living. They did it 147 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: with the wide receiver rotation mid season last year wasn't 148 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: We're not talking about draft picks, but just their personnel 149 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: that they went with for half of last year. They 150 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: just committee was not good. They decided the same working yeah, 151 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: and they made a change. M Rod Marinelli. It's always 152 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: the first thing he always says, do you love football 153 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: when he's evaluating a player. I think Taco loves football. 154 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: I do. I think he took the social media in 155 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: part because he wanted out. He wanted to play somewhere 156 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: he's getting He's gonna get his opportunity. Brian mentioned four 157 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: point five million dollars and dead money over the next 158 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: two years. Mick mentioned, I think it's one point three 159 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: eight million over two years in base salary that they've got. 160 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's one point three it for this year 161 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: this year if somebody doesn't claimed right, yes, and then 162 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: four hundred and eighty thousand more next year is guaranteed. 163 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: And then you know, the pro rated signing bone is 164 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: still counts. So you don't you don't get away from 165 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: that either. One more thing on Taco. Nick Eatman spoke 166 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: to Stephen Jones yesterday about the move. He said, quote, 167 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: sometimes the chemistry doesn't work with a player. With Rod, 168 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: he has certain standards that he looks for in a player. 169 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't think they ever saw eye 170 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: to eye in terms of what that standard should be. 171 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: So that's in line with what you guys are saying, 172 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: and this does fall in line with I think, Brian, 173 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: you hinted at it for this week going forward, and 174 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: maybe you know for beyond this week. They've got some 175 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: injuries on the defensive line and it's looking like it's 176 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: not looking great for week three for a couple of 177 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: these guys as they get back to practice today. Yeah, 178 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: and one last thing on Taco. So it was kind 179 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: of pointed out to me that that pick came out 180 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: of thin air. And so when I went back and 181 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: looked at the draft order, and I was wondering because 182 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: they were in the market for a cornerback and the 183 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: pick before them was should Dave how do I say 184 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: it White or Davious White from LSU right with the Buffalo, 185 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: And I'm wondering that they have their heart set on that. 186 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: And then it was like, Okay, we got to do 187 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: a U turn here. And sometimes when you get stuck 188 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: on something that you think is coming and you don't 189 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: get it, then it's like, oh, what the hell do 190 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: we do? Same draft? Though, they got Cheeto and Lewis, 191 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: and I'm right about that, but I'm thinking if you 192 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: would have, yeah, you wouldn't have taken Cheeto in the 193 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: second if you took White in the first. Right. I 194 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: think they were in a situation though, too, Mickey, where 195 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: they were looking at this and they thought that they 196 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: could grab Cheeto and they could grab and get both, 197 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: get both, and they said they forced the issue on 198 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: the defensive end. Right. If you remember, Tack McKinley went 199 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: to Atlanta a pick before them as well, and that 200 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: was a guy that they brought in on a thirty 201 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: visit and stuff like that. So they felt like, I 202 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: believe if my history is correct, and I've played a 203 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: couple of games without a helmet, so some times my 204 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: memory goes. But that was one of those deals where 205 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: they felt like that they could stretch the corner draft, 206 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: but not stretch the defensive end draft. And you know 207 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: when they were picking, when they were picking two, it 208 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: likely was a second round player on their board. I 209 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: know he was drafted in the first round, but much 210 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: like with Travis Frederick. He was a second round player 211 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: on their board, so you know there were players ahead 212 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: of him, clearly, but they they they said, okay, it's 213 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: gonna come down to McKinley or Taco, and they lost 214 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: the one guy that said, okay, let's go ahead and 215 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: hit this defensive end here and then we could we 216 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: could rally and get the corners maybe later in the 217 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: draft because we felt like the position stretched a little 218 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: bit better. And if I remember correctly, and I haven't 219 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: been hit in the head without a helmet. Yeah, Randall 220 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: Gregory is in no man's land at that time, yes, right, yes, 221 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: being missed the whole twenty seventeen seasons, right, and then 222 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: got reinstated at the last moment in twenty eighteen, so 223 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: defensive end had beencome upon. It's so unfortunately for him 224 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: they're drafting twenty eighth. Yeah. Some of the biggest issues 225 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: you have is when you try and force the issue. 226 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: And we've we had those days happen in the early Yeah, 227 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: we've had those days happened many a time in the 228 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: early two thousands. I know working with the Dave Campbell 229 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: administration that we we tried to force players and it's 230 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: not necessary it's not the best way to go. It's you. 231 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: You trust your board, you evaluate your board. I'll always 232 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: remember Kendrell Bell, who we had a linebacker the first 233 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: round on our board from Georgia. But you know, we 234 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: get in the second round. He's still on the board, 235 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: but we take Quincy Carter. You know, that was one 236 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: of those things where you had a first round guy 237 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: on your board, just go ahead and take him and 238 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: find a way to kind of go get your quarterback 239 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: if you have to. But that's totally water under the 240 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: bridge right now. Will McClay this group, you know, you 241 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: have to have faith in him that they'll go back. 242 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: They'll look at that, they'll evaluate what happened in that draft, 243 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: and then it will remind him and said, Okay, we 244 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: tried to do this before. Stephen Jones is X doing 245 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: this is making everybody in that room accountable for the 246 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: picks that are made. And so he'll ask the right questions. 247 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: Will McClay will have answers for him, and you know, 248 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: hopefully they won't have the situation with what happened with 249 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: Taco and and go down that road again and they'll 250 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: continue to draft well like they have all right, So 251 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: what I was loosing to earlier. Is that? Yeah, we 252 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: went around it. He come out injury. He could have 253 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: helped them. Yeah, numbers wise because of Crawford in this 254 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: football game, sure, and Antoine Woods as well. What, Mick, 255 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: what's the status of some of these guys on defense? Yeah, 256 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think Crawford's playing. No, he's not, 257 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: and just kind of testing the temperature of Antoine Woods. 258 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to make it back in 259 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: time either. So you're gonna see Tristan Hill. Yep, We're 260 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: going to find out what Christian Covington is. But the 261 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: worst part with the Crawford thing is you're losing two spots, right, 262 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: You're losing your starting defensive end and you're losing your 263 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: defensive tackle slide inside on nickel situations. So you're gonna 264 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: need two guys to replace one, and that's never good 265 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: when you're down to forty six three maybe three guys 266 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: to replace one. Yeah, just going back to Crawford, he 267 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: can do both. Yeah, tackle positions. I asked asked about Crawford, 268 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: and I said, is this a setback of what he 269 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: had what they worked on all training camp? And nanswer 270 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: was No, it's a different issue. It's nothing but overuse 271 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: of an issue with both his hips. He had it 272 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: last year about mid season. They calling it psitis is 273 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: what they're calling it. So he's dealing with a little 274 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: bit of that right now. So to Mickey's point, though, 275 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: at Rob's point, yeah, you're talking about Tristan Hill playing 276 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: the under tackle. That means maybe maliek Collins is going 277 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: to have to kick over and play a little one 278 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: because if they rushed the passer, they're not going to 279 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: have Christian Covington in there all the time. He might 280 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: get in there a little bit. So Quinn was taking 281 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: the majority of the reps with the first team yesterday 282 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: talking to some folks. So the fact that he had 283 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: an offseason, got some training camp in is a little 284 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: bit different of a sit situation than what what what 285 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: Crawford and what Lawrence had. So he's out there with 286 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: the ones and they're gonna have to find a way 287 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: to rotate that right defensive end over there to give 288 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: him the opportunity to not play the whole entire game. 289 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: But they do have some players over like to say Armstrong, Hider, 290 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: guys like that, or but there we're gonna see Hyder 291 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: and and and those guys get a lot of work 292 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: inside as well as we go through this game. It 293 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: did sound like Robert Quinn had a good practice yesterday, 294 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: and Brian alluded to the fact I think he was 295 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: on the field for almost a couple of weeks in 296 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: camp before he did break the bone in his left 297 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: We were going to Hawaii, weren't. We were getting to 298 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: his the week before we left for the Hawaii trip, 299 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: but yeah, we got he broke his hand like on 300 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: a Wednesday Thursday practice our bone in the hand and 301 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: then we were all kind of and then all of 302 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: a sudden he started the suspension stuff started coming down 303 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: and have all that. Yeah, I don't think he played 304 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: in the opener though I think it was for the opener. Yeah, um, 305 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: but yeah, he's gone through all the offseason. He set 306 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: his hand feels all right. Yeah, he did have a 307 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: brace on it, I believe in practice yesterday and he's 308 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: hoping to not play with it. But it sounds like 309 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: he's in good shape and he's ready to go. He 310 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: was training I think nearby offside. Obviously, Michael Johnson performance 311 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: a good spot Olympian and he had his helmet and 312 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: but still it's not the same. He has not done 313 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: anything in a month on a football field, and I'm 314 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: told that they're going to kind of treat him the 315 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: way they treated Lawrence in that first game. And Lawrence 316 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: you thirty two snaps, I think you said yesterday, and 317 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: so that's half the game. Yea. So those other guys 318 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: that you know, Brian mentioned, which will take away from 319 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: how much they can possibly maybe possibly spell Lawrence right, 320 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: because you know, you don't want to go too many 321 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: snaps with Lawrence off the field and Quinn off the 322 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: field and you're out there with it, and they did 323 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: it in this last game, you know, Armstrong one side, 324 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: Carrie Hyder or the other side. But I don't know 325 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: how many snaps you want to do that. Ye alright, 326 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: let's take our first. You got with something else, No, 327 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: I just gonna if we could get back to it. 328 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: This is gonna be an interesting game. We get into 329 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: matchups because of how many Dallas starters are not playing 330 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: in this game. I think that's a great equalizer if 331 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: you're thinking about how the Dolphin's going to match up. 332 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of those matchups when we come 333 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: back and We've got two callers holdings, so we'll get 334 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: to both of those right out of the break. Next 335 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys. Your new apartment's big. 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How much you down since 376 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: you started forty pounds? Look at that. Appreciate that. Ye, 377 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: no taco, no tacos. I missed Mickey's pizza. That's right, 378 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: Mickey keeps talk at pizza and tali deef sandwich. Some 379 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: steps the big start talking lasagna and pasta too, some carbs, 380 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: that's right. Anything we're doing in life, you got to 381 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: sacrifice a little a little bit. Wait to go, Brian, 382 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate that. All right, Do you guys want 383 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: to grab some phone calls? Absolutely, let's start with Brian 384 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: and Jacksonville. You're up first today on Talking Cowboys. Hey, 385 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: good morning guys, Good morning morning. Hey, So it looked 386 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: like we call a little bit of a break with 387 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: some of these injuries popping up. The NFL Gouds have 388 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: kind of smiled on us. We've got Miami on the schedule. 389 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: This week and a faint team that's gonna play without 390 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: Drew Brees in the week after that. Of these injuries 391 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: with Antoine Woods and Xavier and Gallup and Crawford, it 392 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: sounds like, from what I keep hearing in all the coverage, 393 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: they're talking two, three, four weeks for all of them. 394 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: Can you guys give me an idea of are you 395 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: at all concerned that any of these are going to 396 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: nag and stretch on beyond that? And are you cancerned 397 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: about the Green Bay game with the sudden pylon of 398 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: injuries that we've had. And I'll hang up and listen. 399 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Thanks Brian Um Crawford, that's the one 400 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm concerned About'm concerned about the Dolphins game. Oh I 401 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: am too, But I'm concerned about Crawford. If you ask 402 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: about of all those Mickey, if you follow Mickey on Twitter, 403 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 1: which you should absolutely do, yeah, he told you. You know, 404 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: national reports were talking about four to six weeks for 405 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: Woods being Xavier Woods. He was out on the cords 406 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: the other day, you know, and I and I reached 407 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: out to some of the medical staff and said, well, 408 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: I tell you what, kids moving around pretty good. Our 409 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: race says, Yeah, I guess I don't know where to 410 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: get this four to six stuff. Look, we saw him, 411 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: Mickey and I didn't even the locker room coming walking 412 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: to lunch. He was walking faster than us. He looked 413 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: he might be lining much better than he might be walking. 414 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: He might be lining up next week against the Saints. 415 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: So he was walking better than Brob. Yeah. So you know, 416 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: and you talk about you talk about Joe, you talk 417 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: about the you know, the wide receiver gallup that's two 418 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: to four, that's two to four, but hearing more on 419 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: the two side than the fore side on that. The 420 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: one again, if you talk about something that could be 421 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: just nagging is Crawford. Crawford, He's we talked about the versities. 422 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: It's in the hip. It's something he's probably gonna have 423 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: to play through. They played through it last year and 424 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: then so that would be the one that to me, 425 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: he's probably not going to practice on a weekly basis. 426 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: They're going to have to figure out how to manage 427 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: him and then get him to the game and then 428 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: hope that some of these young guys, So hope that 429 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: Hider or Armstrong or these guys show up Quinn and 430 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: show up and kind of kill inside hill. Yeah, and 431 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: give him a little break to where he doesn't have 432 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: to play fifty four snaps or fifty snaps or forty 433 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: eight snaps. That's that's your hope, right, that's the concern 434 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: for me. Everybody else I think can be fine. I 435 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: worry about an injury like that just being long term 436 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: for him and for versites. It's not like you can 437 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: do a surgery now to solve that. It hurts, and 438 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: so yeah, um, yeah, that's something they're gonna have to monitor. 439 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: I think he's a tough dude though, he really he'll 440 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: try to. Yeah, he'll get it out. Yeah. And I 441 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: think from the woods, Um, you know, I think Antoine 442 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: might be a little worse than Xavier from what I've seen, right, 443 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: but not as bad as you know, normally when you 444 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: sprain your MCL it's two to four. I think he's 445 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: on the shorter end of that because he's moving well. 446 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: They've given him the stem treatment and all that stuff, 447 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: and uh, and he's kind of a tough guy too. 448 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: Remember absolutely he tore his rotator cuff in that playoff 449 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: game against the Rams in the first quarter and he 450 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: played through the game. So uh, he told he told 451 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: us yesterday it's feeling a little better. Yeah, but but 452 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: he's getting you know, a lot of treatment on it. 453 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 1: You would happen and Tavon, you just it's hard to 454 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: just figure out him. I mean it's like now he's 455 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: still in concussion protocol. But it wasn't a concussion that 456 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: showed up during the game or right after the game. 457 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: You know, it was two days later he comes in 458 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: and I ain't feeling right that one. That one's kind 459 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: of concerning only because you know, with with maybe Randall 460 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: Cobb playing more snaps, even if they're not in three wide, uh, 461 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: you know, he may not be returning punts. And now 462 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: you've got Cedric Wilson that's like almost a starter. Would 463 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: they need to make another roster move like last week? 464 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: It can because you got without Tavon if he doesn't 465 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: play this week, and Jason Garrett said he's improving, But 466 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: who you're gonna bring up, Well, you have another receiver 467 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: all the practice squad. I'm just asking if it's a possibility. 468 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't think you want to keep making moves and 469 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: having to deplete your depth elsewhere, right, But the problem 470 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna guys, I personally feel like they're gonna get 471 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: into all personnel this game. If you go back and 472 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: watch them the way that the Ravens and the Patriots 473 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: handled Miami, they had a hard time. The safeties had 474 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: a hard time for the Dolphins covering tight ends. I 475 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: think the I think the Ravens have got two really 476 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: good tight ends, and you know, and of course the 477 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: the New England doesn't have Gruntkowski anymore, but they're capable 478 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: the way they were throwing the ball, you know. But 479 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: I could see them getting in more eleven personnel or 480 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: actually be twelve personnel, and then finding a way to 481 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: use if they get into eleven Devin Smith, Cobb and 482 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: Cooper and but they could also use Pollard. They could 483 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: use old Wally if they have to on some some 484 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: stuff to get him as like a wing and h 485 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: and let him be involved. But I would keep an 486 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: eye on how much twelve personnel they play in this 487 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: game and try and take advantage of the safety play 488 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: for the Dolphins or the lack of the safety play 489 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: now with no Mika Fitzpatrick in there as well, and 490 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: you can throw the ball to Zeke a little bit more. 491 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely haven't really exposed that trying to cut down on 492 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: how many touches he has, but I'm sure he's full 493 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: go now, So there's ways to work around it. But 494 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: when you're when you're counting, you know the starters they 495 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: will miss this game. Yeah, and if I count Tavan 496 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: as a punt returner, it's like four and a half 497 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: starters are out of this got hard to potentially figure 498 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: out these inactives to see this. This is where Mickey 499 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: makes a good point for me because I feel like 500 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: that I just listed the guys that are backups playing 501 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: this game. Devin Smith, Cedric Wilson, Kerrie Hyder, Tristan Hill, 502 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: Robert Quinn. I think that Thompson, Yeah, exactly, Christian Covington, 503 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: Darien Thompson, Dorrit's Armstrong. That's a great equalizer, right that 504 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: all those guys I named are gonna have to play 505 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: prominent roles in what you're doing in this football game. 506 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: So to me, that's where this game if you want 507 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: to talk about an equalizer. Are the Cowboys a better 508 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: team than the Dolphins? Absolutely they are. But but if 509 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: you're the if you're the Cowboys, you need Smith, Wilson, Hyder, Hill, Quinn, Covington, 510 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: Thompson and Armstrong to play really well in this game. 511 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: You do you need them to, you know, you need 512 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: them to step up. You're gonna need even you know 513 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: we talked about uh, you know the tight end plants 514 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: that the backup tight ends. They're gonna have to play 515 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: well in this game for the Cowboys to uh to 516 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm not saying and I say have a chance because 517 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: I think they could beat the Dolphins. But I think 518 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: this game, with all the backups that are having to play, 519 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: might be a little bit closer than people think. Scrab 520 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: another phone call real quick before we get to our 521 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: second break, Nebbi our buddy and Silver Springs, Maryland. You're 522 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: up next on Talking Cowboys. Hi, guys, um uh who's 523 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: gonna fill in for Xavier Woods while he's recovering from 524 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: his high ankle sprain? And I just wanted to say 525 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: that we've got to put away the Miami Dolphins early 526 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: because the longer theyang around, the more dangerous they are 527 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: going to be. U take care, Thanks for being paid 528 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: with me, and have a great week. Thanks that well said. 529 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 1: I think you guys mentioned Darry and Thompson. Darreon Thompson. 530 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: The thing they liked the most about him, and Jason 531 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: Garrett spoke to this a little bit this morning. Is 532 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: he's kind of the quarter He can be the quarterback 533 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: back there. He can get guys lined up. He knows 534 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 1: how to diagnose things. As the free safety. They need 535 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: him to make plays though too. Yeah, I mean, Xavier 536 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: Woods goes out there and makes place, makes physical play. 537 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: So Thompson is going to play a lot of single 538 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: high likely and then you know, and you're gonna get 539 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: Jeff heat down low trying to do some things. Well 540 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: there you know. Again, does does that mean that Donovan Wilson, 541 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: who was healthy, he got some reps with the twos yesterday? Uh? 542 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,239 Speaker 1: You know, does he get an opportunity before say, uh, 543 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, but before Cabon Frasier, you know, I mean, 544 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: and that's we saw a lot of good things from 545 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson playing coverage and being around the football. But 546 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, is this an opportunity for him to show 547 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: the coach is much like what Devin Smith did last week, 548 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: show the offensive coaches that he's a capable replacement. Uh, 549 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: you know, if he has to go in these games, 550 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: which he will this week, Donovan Wilson will be a 551 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: full time special teams player, because if Darien Thompson, who's 552 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: your special teams players, now got to, you know, play 553 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: sixty snaps on on defense, he can't play all the 554 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: special teams. So I would expect Wilson to be active 555 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: and and taking part in all those special teams. You know, 556 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: maybe he gets a snap or two. But you know, 557 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: you're always hesitant the first time you play a rookie 558 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: to put him in such a prominent spot, you know, 559 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: And I keep hearing this, you know, Oh, you know, 560 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: if somebody's eighty percent, maybe you don't play him. Save 561 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: him for the Saints game. There's no saving in the NFL. 562 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: You know, there's no saving preseason. This Dolphin team regular, 563 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: this Dolphin team is going to be dangerous because number one, 564 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 1: where they started, they got nothing to lose, right, so 565 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: they come in swashbuckling. If I'm the head coach, it's 566 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: it's a four down offense, right, Yeah, why do I 567 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: gotta punt? This is? This is Mickey. I appreciate you 568 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: saying this little bit. No, no, this is I appreciate 569 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: you saying this because if I'm the Miami Dolphin, that's 570 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: exactly how I dam feel right now, I'm I'm I'm 571 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: slinging it downfield and maybe I get interference, at least 572 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: challenge it for inter and Nebbi's right because the longer 573 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: they hang in the game, and they were in the 574 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: game the first half against the Patriots, they were right yeah. 575 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: So the longer they hang in, they're sitting there going, okay, yeah, 576 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: we can play. And that's the last thing you want. 577 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: You want to take them out early and give them 578 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: a pillow to put their head on and be nice 579 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: and comfortable. Now, make you always say it, the more 580 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: you lose the NFL, the closer you are to winning. 581 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: And they're you know, I mean, I don't remember what 582 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: the score was at halftime, but it was close. I 583 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: appreciate him saying that because to me that I think 584 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: this is really about, like I said, the great equalizers. 585 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: A lot of backups are playing for your football team. Now, 586 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: if the backups pass the test, the Cowboys in this 587 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: football game. But the thing that worries me is Fitzpatrick. Yeah, 588 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: and you know that got Parker. He's a he's a 589 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: could be a vertical player at They'll fifty fifty ball 590 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: all day. But I was just worry about it, because 591 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: what's the one thing we haven't really seen consistently from 592 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: this Cowboys defense. So we kind of nick pick on 593 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: a little bit rush pass rush. Look at you both 594 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: say at the same time, it did a better job 595 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: in the run game last Yeah, exactly. So if you 596 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: but if you're Fitzpatrick and you're gonna and you make 597 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: him feel somewhat comfortable throwing the football in this game, 598 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: he could throw the ball fifty times and he doesn't 599 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: care that. I mean, he'll throw four interceptions. He doesn't care. 600 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: That's just his attitude. That's the way he plays. That's 601 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: that's the biggest danger. And the and Brian Floor is 602 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: the head coach. You know what if he says, Okay, yeah, 603 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna go for it on all these four downs. 604 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah we're gonna onside kick, Yeah, we're gonna fake punt. 605 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: Yeah we're gonna you know, he's got to find ways 606 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: to get his players back on board because obviously with 607 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: all the changes the front office is making, there is 608 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: a lot of players net locker room looking at each 609 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: other going in my next, yeah, my next. Robert Quinn 610 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: was asked yesterday if he's contacted had contact with any 611 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: of his former teammates said, a lot of them are gone. Yeah, 612 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: they're not there anymore. Yeah, before we go to break, 613 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: there are concerns, I think obviously with the injuries on defense. 614 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: The thing that makes me feel good though, is offensively 615 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: the offensive. The offensive line absolutely has been so solid 616 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: that I think especially at home too. Yeah, they should 617 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: be able to control things the way they're playing on 618 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: Travis Frederick back in there. We'll see how that goes. 619 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: Let's take our final break. When we come back, we 620 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: got more phonage next on Talking Cowboys. 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The other day, I remember I 692 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: went home and I just said, you know what I'm 693 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: gonna I'm not doing anything. I'm just gonna sit here. Yeah, 694 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, because it was like every time i'd go 695 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: my work, just grab We do love it though, when 696 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: we love it. By the way, I looked it up. 697 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: So New England didn't score their second touchdown until there 698 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: was like two minutes left in the first half. So 699 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 1: they led thirteen to nothing at halftime because they missed 700 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: the extra point right, thirteen to nothing, it ended up 701 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: what forty nine to nothing or whatever the heck it 702 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: was three? Okay, I made it worse than was, but 703 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: at halftime they were hanging in there. So and the 704 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: last thing the Cowboys need to do is turn the 705 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: ball over. Yeah, and that Periscope two team, Yeah, Periscope 706 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: pets are now our analysis on this game. Well, go 707 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: ahead and bet to twenty one then and talk to 708 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: me on Monday. There you go, Mickey, I'm with you. 709 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: I'm with you. Two quick phone calls before we get 710 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: out of here, Corey and Amarillo. You're up next on 711 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys Amarillo by morning. Yes, Sorry, guys, How are 712 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: y'all doing today? Good? Good? What's up? Hey? Do you 713 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: guys think that possibly Christian Schart's idea for his prototypical 714 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,240 Speaker 1: cornerback could be keeping Jordan Lewis playing behind Anthony Brown. 715 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking that because it seems like what you 716 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: guys say, like the eye test, Jordan seems to show 717 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: up and be there when he needs to be there 718 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: and make those big plays. And I'm thinking specifically like 719 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: the Saints game and some other stuff. Sure, uh, And 720 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's his size keeping him back because it 721 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,479 Speaker 1: just I'm not calling I'm not dogging on Anthony Brown 722 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: because I know how hard corner is. But yeah, I 723 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: just seems like Jordan just seems to play better. Yeah, 724 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: you know what I was watching? You have another question? 725 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: Or was that the on you got? The other? The 726 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: other thing was is I just wanted to comment, like 727 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: Nevi said, I think we got to put him away 728 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: fast this week, how slow cowboys have been getting getting rolling. 729 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: Just I think Mickey said, well it go, you know, 730 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: we let these guys get ahead. They're gonna get some 731 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: steam rolling and they're gonna get positive and yeah, you know, 732 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: momentum of games a big deal. YEA, thank you, man, 733 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: I appreciate thanks, Corey. You know, I feel like, you know, 734 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: I'm just such a huge fan of Jordan Lewis, not 735 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: that I'm against Anthony Brown. And I thought, you know, 736 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: watching that game when Nate in the studio last week, 737 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, Anthony Brown is not playing well. And 738 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: then I watched the tape. You know, there was a 739 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: couple of plays that he was really bad on. But 740 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: my perception of him just watching the game, and I 741 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: know how you guys saw it live, was that HI 742 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: missing tackles, he's not playing coverage well. But I was 743 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: wrong about that. But I do think I love how 744 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 1: competitive Jordan Lewis is. I really do. I think he'll 745 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 1: fight you every single breath he has. And I and 746 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: maybe that's why. And I don't know if it's Chris 747 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: Roussard saying I'm just gonna go with this guy because 748 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: he's prototypically better looking. I just think he really trusts 749 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown that much. I don't think he feels like 750 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: Anthy Brown has let him down, and not that Jordan 751 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: Lewis has let him down, But I just feel like 752 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,399 Speaker 1: that's probably why they're doing what they're doing. I don't 753 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: think it has to do anything of his size. I 754 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: just think the coach really really trusts Anthony Brown maybe 755 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: a little bit more than Jordan Lewis. He played well 756 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: last year in that role. Yeah, and it is trust. 757 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: And if you watch the entire game, there's sometimes Jordan 758 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: Lewis gets lost out there. Yeah, And so I think 759 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: the way they look at it has nothing to do 760 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: with his size. It has to do with the maybe 761 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: the more snaps he gets, you start getting diminishing returns 762 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: and you got to be careful on that. It's it's 763 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: like it's like that second baseman that you know, placed 764 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: part time and you regulate his at bats and he 765 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 1: hits two eighty and then all of a sudden you 766 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: double his bats and now he's hitting two twenty. Right, 767 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: So you gotta be careful. He shows up in spots, 768 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: but there's other times when he has to play more plays. 769 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: I think he gets lost out there, all right, real quick, 770 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: One more Lance in Philly. You're up next on Talking Cowboys, 771 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 1: Howdy Fellas, how we're at the State Fair Texas. Brian. 772 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: I just tweeted that Jo on Twitter. I appreciate that question, 773 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: and I hate to take in reverse. I tried to 774 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 1: call earlier when you guys were talking about Tocco, but 775 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: the phone was busy. But back to Taco real quick. 776 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to get you guys in his opinion. I 777 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: remember when we drafted Taco. That was the year that 778 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory was suspended. I believe Hicky was talking about that. Yeah, yeah, 779 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't hear that. And I'm wondering if 780 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: that was a necessity pick because we're all scratching ahead 781 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: with the Taco thing. We've had, sure, DJ lot um, 782 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: but a necessity picked and we've all haven't been super 783 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: thrilled but Taco through the last couple of years and 784 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: now we let them go. I'm just wondering if that's 785 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 1: what it was. Big second question, Um, I don't follow 786 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins that often. Um, how do you think 787 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to run against those guys? Is 788 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: that like a scary opposition? The front seven there. I 789 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: know we're going to try to expose the fasties, but 790 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,439 Speaker 1: how we're gonna be able to run against those guys. 791 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: All right, mother than that. Fantastic guys, talk to you. 792 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: Thanks Lance. We kind of covered the first question real quick, Brian, 793 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: how do you see that matchup? Yeah, I mean I 794 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys can find a way. Their front line, 795 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: the offensive line is coolly better than what the Dolphins have. 796 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: The Dolphins play a three four front, so you know 797 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna get the opportunity h to gash them a 798 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: little bit. Jerome Baker, the linebacker number fifty five, I 799 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: think is a really is a good player. Uh real 800 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: Kua McMillan, you know, as another guy, he kind of 801 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: plays as their sam linebacker. So it's it's big bodies 802 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: up front. Not really, It's kind of like what playing 803 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: the Giants when you used back in the day. They 804 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: have those big bodies, their young bodies. Christian Wilkins is 805 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: the first round pick from this year, so we'll see 806 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: how they hold up. Teams had some success running the 807 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: ball inside. There was a lot of movement that I 808 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: saw in that Ravens game, and the Ravens are a 809 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: power team with a good offensive line. So I have 810 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: a feeling you'll see some downhill, downhill runs with Zeke. 811 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: I think you'll get the pollard out there on the 812 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: edge a little bit in some space, and they'll have 813 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 1: some success doing that. That'll be a nice way. They're 814 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 1: gonna need a little balance here to kind of make 815 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: things work, all right. That's all the time we got, Mick. Look, 816 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: eighty one runs against them, but a lot of it 817 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: has to do when you get in the fourth quarter. 818 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,839 Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter, thirty points, you run the ball. 819 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: They've given up three hundred ninety one yards. But here's 820 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: the key thing. They're also giving up four point eight 821 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: to carry. That's it. Yeah, so there's a lot of 822 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 1: carries because of what the score is, but they get 823 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: flore down to that. That's four point eight to carriage. 824 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,919 Speaker 1: All right. We'll see if Zeke eats. Thank you guys 825 00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: for joining us, Thanks for all the phone calls. We'll 826 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: catch you Friday to wrap up the week on Talking Cowboys, 827 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: The Break is next. This has been a production of 828 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.