WEBVTT - Stop Cop City, Dispatch from Weelaunee Summer: Part One

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<v Speaker 1>This summer has been a critical junction in the fight

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<v Speaker 1>against copp City, the Atlanta Police Foundation's massive proposed training

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<v Speaker 1>facility in de Cab County, which is slated to begin

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<v Speaker 1>construction later this very month. The last week of action

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<v Speaker 1>in March of twenty twenty three drew in over a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people against cop City and saw hundreds of forest

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<v Speaker 1>defenders attack in mass the construction equipment and police infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>stored on the site in a pretty successful action. The

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<v Speaker 1>police repression came down hard, but the militancy of the

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<v Speaker 1>force defenders left a pretty impressionable mark. Later that month,

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<v Speaker 1>to Cab County closed and barricaded in Trenchman Creek Park

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<v Speaker 1>citing public safety concerns and allegedly found booby traps. Police

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<v Speaker 1>did an exhaustive sweep of the forest and established a

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<v Speaker 1>relatively firm control of the territory. After a year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half of there being a nearly continuous presence in

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<v Speaker 1>the Mulani by forest vendors, now the police began a

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<v Speaker 1>forest occupation of their own. During the month that followed,

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta Police Foundation or the APF, rushed to clear

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<v Speaker 1>cut around ninety acres of the Mulani Forest, seemingly in

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<v Speaker 1>a ploy to show investors and the city that they

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<v Speaker 1>are committed to the project and to crush the spirits

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<v Speaker 1>of those who spent years opposing the facility and defending

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<v Speaker 1>the forest. People then set their sights on the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>City Council, who in early June was to vote on

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not to provide taxpayer funding for the APF's project.

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<v Speaker 1>Over twenty three hours of public comment across multiple days,

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<v Speaker 1>almost universally against copp City, culminated at the June fifth

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<v Speaker 1>City Council meeting, which lasted into the early hours of

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<v Speaker 1>the next morning. Despite the record breaking turnout opposing the

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<v Speaker 1>facility in the earth early morning of Tuesday, June sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>the Lanta City Council voted eleven to four in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of the sixty seven million dollar funding package to build

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<v Speaker 1>cop City. The next day, a group of community organizers

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<v Speaker 1>announced a referendum campaign to collect tens of thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>petition signatures from Atlanta voters to put the cop City

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<v Speaker 1>land lease on the upcoming ballot. City council approving public

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<v Speaker 1>funds for cop City was certainly disappointing, but not quite unexpected,

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<v Speaker 1>because another week of action to Stop Cop City was

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<v Speaker 1>already planned for later that same month. This is it

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<v Speaker 1>could happen here. I'm Garrison Davis. In this three part series,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be talking about what's been happening in Atlanta this

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<v Speaker 1>summer to Stop cop City. If you want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>more about the background of this movement. In the month

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<v Speaker 1>of May, we put out a five part series on

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<v Speaker 1>the Week of Action from that spring, along with the

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<v Speaker 1>few other previous Defend the Forest, Stop Cup City mini

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<v Speaker 1>series published over the course of the last year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. With much of the forest already destroyed and

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<v Speaker 1>no easy access to Entrenchment Creek Park, this week of

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<v Speaker 1>action in June was set to be very unlike any

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<v Speaker 1>that had come before. The kickoff rally was to begin

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday, June twenty fourth at Brownwood Park in East Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>I made my way there and met up with Matt

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<v Speaker 1>from the Atlantic Community Press Collective. My first feeling walking

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<v Speaker 1>in is like it felt very society of the spectacle

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of like the ratio of cameras to participants

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<v Speaker 1>was the most extreme that I've really ever ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>for like, you know, a week of action.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there was there was outside of like a

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<v Speaker 2>press conference.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like it felt like there was so many

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<v Speaker 1>just cameras looming around, and it's like it's like there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many people trying to make a similar frum of

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<v Speaker 1>the movements to sell back to other people at this

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<v Speaker 1>point in time, and like there's just a very like

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<v Speaker 1>that's just a very large, pervasive feeling, and that combined

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<v Speaker 1>with the more of the more liberalization of certain certain aspects,

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<v Speaker 1>again compared to the last week of action, which felt

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<v Speaker 1>there was a strong militant continuent.

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<v Speaker 2>And like the liberals continued was still there if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>Burn it, And that's not the vibe here. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>the vibe here. There's definitely a big separation in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of what types of people at what side of the park.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, there's a more like more like forested section

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<v Speaker 3>of the park with a creek.

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<v Speaker 1>On the south side, which is where people are setting

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<v Speaker 1>up some camping sites had a kitchen, that's where the

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<v Speaker 1>well content is. And then there's the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>the park that has like the rec center and the playground,

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<v Speaker 1>which seems more like family friendly stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are kids there, there's the popcorn setup.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more like there is a Bounty House, which is

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<v Speaker 1>great return.

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<v Speaker 3>They couldn't, they couldn't keep this moving down.

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<v Speaker 4>I won't.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't rest until is destroyed, until the conty every

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<v Speaker 1>Mounty Castle is in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 3>Till till every Bounty Castle is to that is.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the new Movement's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>In contrast to the last kickoff rally at Gresham Park,

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<v Speaker 1>which felt very unified, this time there was a noticeable

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<v Speaker 1>separation in terms of what types of people are on

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<v Speaker 1>the two sides of the park. People wearing camouflage and

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<v Speaker 1>masks were more situated on the south side of the

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<v Speaker 1>park where tents were being set up, versus people by

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<v Speaker 1>the playground who were going around with the referendum signup

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<v Speaker 1>sheet and where all the food was being handed out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so separated the game.

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<v Speaker 4>No, the two groups.

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<v Speaker 1>Cannot cannot, cannot count see each other and even like

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<v Speaker 1>people like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Turnout seemed to be a bit lower than some people expected,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was definitely much lower compared to the previous

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks of action and overall the rally was very

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<v Speaker 1>muted and lacked a sense of energy or focus. Like

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<v Speaker 1>the rallies, was start at eleven, which kind of kind

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<v Speaker 1>of think nothing happened like it just it felt very directtionless.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like people do not quite know why they

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<v Speaker 1>were there at this point in.

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<v Speaker 2>Times, almost Nune before anyone really spoke on the bullhorn,

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<v Speaker 2>and the music didn't start until noon, and then what

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<v Speaker 2>was it like a half hour ago, so like twelve

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<v Speaker 2>thirty probably when when the first like speaker said anything

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<v Speaker 2>from the Faith Coalition.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So far, the rally kind of feels like a microcosmum

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<v Speaker 1>of the entire movement at this point, just not quite

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<v Speaker 1>sure where to direct the energy to.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a feeling that like people should do.

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<v Speaker 1>Something, but they don't quite know how to. They haven't

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<v Speaker 1>decided how that should be directed yet, and so like

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<v Speaker 1>there's some people showing up, but it's just like it

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<v Speaker 1>feels kind of stagnant, and like there's this there's this

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<v Speaker 1>need to evolve.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe people got burnt out from the city

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<v Speaker 1>council things and there's a lot of energy being.

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<v Speaker 3>Pumped into that. Yeah, and then I guess some people.

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<v Speaker 2>People like three weeks of pushing energy.

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<v Speaker 1>And that that was only like two weeks ago, like

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<v Speaker 1>that that's still very recently three weeks it still feels

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<v Speaker 1>it still feels very raw. Walking down the pathway on

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<v Speaker 1>the south side of Brownwood you can see people setting

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<v Speaker 1>up tents, carrying camping supplies and big jugs of water.

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<v Speaker 1>Other people were assembling a makeshift kitchen in the tree line,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of that was physically reminiscent of the last

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<v Speaker 1>week of action. But being four miles away from the

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<v Speaker 1>forest at Brownwood Park instead of the Wailani impacted the

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<v Speaker 1>feeling on the ground. We're both were so far away

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<v Speaker 1>from the forest, but there's like that separation of space,

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<v Speaker 1>like it feels so distant.

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<v Speaker 2>And distant, even more than than Gresham Park, even more Gresham,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if this were happening in Gresham Park, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that might even be a different feeling. Yeah, because at

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<v Speaker 2>least you're attached to the Leilani.

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<v Speaker 1>There was more determination on like the south side of

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<v Speaker 1>of the park.

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<v Speaker 3>And you could feel like the people want at least

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<v Speaker 3>people want to do something physically, and they were.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's even still unclear how it's going to get

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<v Speaker 1>directed towards, like like what is this to bring.

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<v Speaker 3>To stop prop city right now? Like that is and

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<v Speaker 3>that's the.

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<v Speaker 1>Big thing is like people are trying to figure that out,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's people here, but like what are what are

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<v Speaker 1>people actually going to be doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's that's the question that is You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be unanswered at least today.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say the last Week of Action in March

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<v Speaker 1>was very important in terms of setting the stage for

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<v Speaker 1>what the next few months would look like. The direct

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<v Speaker 1>action that happened on Sunday during the music festival was

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<v Speaker 1>very important and successful, but also carried large ramifications for

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<v Speaker 1>how the rest of the movement would be shaped in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the police repression and increase police presence in

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<v Speaker 1>the forest. The weeks of Action definitely have this ability

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<v Speaker 1>to affect how the movement as a whole evolves in

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<v Speaker 1>the subsequent months. On Saturday, there were worries that if

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<v Speaker 1>things were simply going to continue to be like the

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<v Speaker 1>kickoff rally, that wouldn't be a positive direction and would

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<v Speaker 1>be a bad sign. It's just so, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard not to convey this to the to the last

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<v Speaker 1>Week of Action kickoff rally at Gresham, which is felt

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<v Speaker 1>so different like that there was like almost ten times

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<v Speaker 1>as many people. There was like a feeling of like motion,

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<v Speaker 1>There was a feeling of like we can, we have

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<v Speaker 1>we have to go do a thing, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it no matter what, Like we don't know it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be on the other side of the tunnel, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're going there to do it anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna find it out together.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was that was a lot of determination, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there was a lot of like there was like

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<v Speaker 1>a pointedness, like they knew where they were going, and

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<v Speaker 1>this does not It lacks that pointedness. It feels like

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<v Speaker 1>people aren't quite sure why they're here or what to

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<v Speaker 1>do at this point in time. And if the movement

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be able to continue in its goals, it

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<v Speaker 1>has to find some way to evolve in these next

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<v Speaker 1>two months as construction is going to ramp up.

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<v Speaker 3>And I guess this this week will kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Will the bell weather either well, either a bell weather

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<v Speaker 2>or a learning experience. Yeah, it might not be any

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<v Speaker 2>sort of death now, but it will have to be

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<v Speaker 2>a learning experience probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's kind of most of most of my thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>so far based on walking through both places.

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<v Speaker 3>There's just not much else talk looks and how much

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<v Speaker 3>is happening, Like it soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Enough However, other things did start happening thanks to the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Police Department, but throughout that afternoon things remained mostly

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<v Speaker 1>low key, and as the day went on, the gathering

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<v Speaker 1>at Brownwood Park turned into a community barbecue and people

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<v Speaker 1>started to get a much more clear idea of what

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<v Speaker 1>the expectations for that day were. As people settled into

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<v Speaker 1>the park, there ceased to be any big anticipation for

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<v Speaker 1>what everyone was going to be doing that first day.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't supposed to be a vigil for Tortighita in

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<v Speaker 1>the park that evening, which was interrupted by Atlanta Police

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<v Speaker 1>officers who swept through the park issuing a quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>friendly reminder that the park closed at eleven PM.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, it's around eight thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>How about forty police officers just walked through Brownwood Park

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<v Speaker 1>telling people that are gathered here that the park closes

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<v Speaker 1>at eleven and everyone's basically anticipating the police are going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to sweep the entirety of the park, including

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<v Speaker 1>the sections where people are trying to camp out. Around

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<v Speaker 1>eleven PM, the cops were walking south through the park

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<v Speaker 1>as the crowd was walking and chanting along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>As well, cops left under the heels of like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five to two hundred people who were chanting along

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<v Speaker 1>the south side of Brownwood. They've been staging around Brownwood

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<v Speaker 1>Park and Portland Avenue for the past hour or so.

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<v Speaker 1>They had like twenty thirty cars, it's around forty fifty officers.

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<v Speaker 1>People decided they did not wish to stand their ground

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<v Speaker 1>and fight off a possible police raid at Brownwood Park,

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<v Speaker 1>so they spent the next few hours packing up all

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<v Speaker 1>the supplies and equipment that they just spent all day

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<v Speaker 1>setting up, and then evacuated from the area. Okay, it

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<v Speaker 1>is eleven ten PM. It seems like the cops essentially

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<v Speaker 1>just did what I'm referring to as advanced bluffing. So

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<v Speaker 1>they walk through it on eight thirty warning people, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>park closes at eleven, which very much, very much indicating that, hey, we're.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to sweep through and fuck with your shit if

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<v Speaker 4>you're still here.

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<v Speaker 1>So the next few hours people spent time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>packing up, breaking down the tents, of leaving heading to

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<v Speaker 1>other locations, and then at eleven we kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>expected police to do a standard sweep through, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>destroy anything they find if they find people tell them

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<v Speaker 1>to leave or else get arrested, standard stuff. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>there's about seven or eight police cruisers staged around the

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<v Speaker 1>south side of the park, but they're not actually sweeping

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<v Speaker 1>through because it's pretty clear that there's like no one

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<v Speaker 1>actually in the park at this point. It's just very

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<v Speaker 1>clearly like empty and quiet, So I don't even I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even think cops are going to sweep through. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's been already like ten to fifteen minutes. We expected

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<v Speaker 1>them to kind of sweep on the hour, but they

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<v Speaker 1>just like don't need to. It's very clear that no

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<v Speaker 1>one's in the park, so they just kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>successfully bluffed themselves into getting everyone to leave. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if there were people still here in invisible capacity, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure police would sweep through, but there's really there's no

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<v Speaker 1>invisible in the park for many of like the perimeters around,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're not even gonna bother sweeping through. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like this is the end of Brownwood Day

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<v Speaker 1>one and the very kind of low key kickoff rally. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>the week definitely is lacking a sense of direction. There's

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<v Speaker 1>been a cab swat doing perimeter sweeps around the Wailani

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<v Speaker 1>forest and the round Greshian Park where there's some future

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<v Speaker 1>events planned.

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<v Speaker 4>We will see how that plays out in these next

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<v Speaker 4>few days.

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<v Speaker 1>It certainly seemed like police wanted to make some show

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<v Speaker 1>of force early on in the week to stifle the

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<v Speaker 1>week of action. The threat of array the very first

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<v Speaker 1>tonight was indeed disruptive to the logistics for the week,

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<v Speaker 1>but ultimately people were able to band together to keep

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<v Speaker 1>each other safe and cared for. During this current general

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<v Speaker 1>sense of directionlessness, there were a lot of questions on

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<v Speaker 1>how the movement will change during this turning point, With

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<v Speaker 1>little in the way of obvious answers or new paths

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<v Speaker 1>of resistance, The following Sunday and Monday of the week

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<v Speaker 1>continued to be mostly low key. People used those days

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<v Speaker 1>to facilitate workshops and discussions to work through the shift

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<v Speaker 1>the movement was going through. At the end of the week,

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<v Speaker 1>I sat down with Matt in East Atlanta Village to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the week as a whole and compare notes.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a bit of our conversation talking about the discussions

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<v Speaker 1>that started happening during those first few days. This was

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<v Speaker 1>a week of discussions, like it was, it really was.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of meetings. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of discussions happening, people figuring out what do we do,

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<v Speaker 1>like if we actually want to stop cop City and

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to get built in these next few months,

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<v Speaker 1>like now.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the time to figure out what the fuck to

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<v Speaker 3>do next.

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<v Speaker 1>So people have been having those discussions this week, and

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<v Speaker 1>if anything, the Week of Action has been useful in

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<v Speaker 1>this in this sense that it's brought a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people together so they can have these generative conversations. And

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot more conversations during this week than

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<v Speaker 1>last week. There was one on like what the state

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<v Speaker 1>of the movement is now, especially with the referendum taking

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<v Speaker 1>up more visibility, how are like radical is going to

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<v Speaker 1>navigate this space and this movement with a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things in flux, And I think that that was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>my first read. Even even on the Cookoff rally, I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like there's a lot of people like not sure

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<v Speaker 1>what to do, is very directionless. People were asking a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of questions and more questions were being asked all

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the week. There's a lot of discussions, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of meetings about like what do we do now, Like

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<v Speaker 1>if construction is going to start in the next two months, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this movement going to do? Like that people

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<v Speaker 1>can chant if you build it, we will burn it.

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<v Speaker 1>But chanting it and doing it two different things. And

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<v Speaker 1>the movement is it's going to go through a period

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<v Speaker 1>of evolution and in these next few months, and with

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<v Speaker 1>all those questions being asked, I feel like the answer

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<v Speaker 1>to those quiesequestions is going to be the actions people

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<v Speaker 1>do take in these next few months. In the aftermath

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<v Speaker 1>of the clear cutting, it felt like in some ways

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<v Speaker 1>that the window of possibility for this movement was closing

0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.840
<v Speaker 1>as options seemed to be getting smaller. More people started

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<v Speaker 1>pursuing the referendum as a potential means of stopping Copcity,

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<v Speaker 1>but those in the more militant anarchist wing of the

0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:25.280
<v Speaker 1>movement were left questioning, after two years of employing a

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<v Speaker 1>diversity of tactics largely led by direct action, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>the right and move to switch to an electoral strategy

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<v Speaker 1>now when the situation is approaching its most dire but

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<v Speaker 1>since it is happening whether they like it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>anarchists were wondering, what can people do so that the

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<v Speaker 1>referendum doesn't completely dominate the narrative of the movement or

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<v Speaker 1>disincentivize other evolutions of the struggle. Now, obviously, a group

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<v Speaker 1>of people pursuing a referendum does not prohibit other people

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<v Speaker 1>from engaging in direct action, but there still were worries

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<v Speaker 1>that the referendum could become a sort of release mechanism

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<v Speaker 1>for the movement, both in terms of new people's involvement

0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:06.440
<v Speaker 1>being pushed toward this more liberalized electoral strategy instead of

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<v Speaker 1>radical action, or if the petition or even potential ballot

0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:14.040
<v Speaker 1>vote fails, then that being used as an indicator that

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<v Speaker 1>most people in the city actually do want copcity. But

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<v Speaker 1>through all this, what anarchists can do, and what they

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<v Speaker 1>typically do, is to encourage radical autonomy and self determination

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of electoral strategies or outcomes. Whether or not a

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<v Speaker 1>petition gets sixty some thousand signatures does not affect a

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<v Speaker 1>burning construction vehicle. Just as these sort of discussions were happening,

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of fitting that on Monday, June twenty sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw the first communication in months claiming responsibility for

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<v Speaker 1>equipment sabotage. After the last week of action in March

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<v Speaker 1>and subsequent police raids on the forest, increased security, the

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<v Speaker 1>rapid clear cutting and big push for city council public

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<v Speaker 1>comment followed by the start of the referendum wrote that

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<v Speaker 1>series of events, there really hadn't been much in the

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<v Speaker 1>way of nocturnal direct action sabotage happening in Atlanta or

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<v Speaker 1>across the country in solidarity once a core component of

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<v Speaker 1>this movement was seriously lacking in the months leading up

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<v Speaker 1>to this summer, and then suddenly, after the June week

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<v Speaker 1>of action's mostly uneventful start, a post went up on

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<v Speaker 1>the sketchu web site scene stott no blogs dot org

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<v Speaker 1>claiming that a group of anonymous individuals snuck into a

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<v Speaker 1>subcontractor's machine storage lot and poured hydrochloric acid into the

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<v Speaker 1>oil tanks of three vehicles. The target was Brent Scarborough Company,

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<v Speaker 1>a Georgia based subcontractor who was hired to clear cut

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<v Speaker 1>the Waalani forest and was currently engaged in mass land

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<v Speaker 1>grading on the site. I drove by the site on

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<v Speaker 1>Monday and I saw like over twenty machines like actively

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<v Speaker 1>working on the land.

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<v Speaker 3>Very avatar much Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, y or FORER and Gully the superior film, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like the site's being very actively worked on,

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<v Speaker 1>like I've never seen that many machines doing active work

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<v Speaker 1>like all moving at the same time. Early Monday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>the Stop Cop City Referendum put out a strong statement

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<v Speaker 1>of solidarity with quote all tactics on the road to

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<v Speaker 1>collective liberation unquote and openly rejected the state's framing of

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote violent and nonviolent resistance. To briefly quote a

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<v Speaker 1>few of the last sentences of the statement, quote, the

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<v Speaker 1>Cop City Vote Referendum campaign is grounded in the values

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<v Speaker 1>of abolitionist organizing and racial and environmental justice. We also

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<v Speaker 1>recognize our chosen tactic is a single intervention in a

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<v Speaker 1>wide rainbow of fighting state repression. We seek to use

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<v Speaker 1>the Cop City Referendum to leverage local power, educate and

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<v Speaker 1>activate our communities, and build networks that can strengthen our

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<v Speaker 1>city and future mobilizations. The referendum is one piece of

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<v Speaker 1>a vibrant, multi faceted movement, one that defies respectable categorization

0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.760
<v Speaker 1>as well as its state violence and repression. The Cop

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<v Speaker 1>City Vote Referendum Coalition stands in solidarity and full support

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<v Speaker 1>of the Stop Cop City Week of Action, The larger

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<v Speaker 1>movement and abolitionist organizers and activists across this city.

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<v Speaker 2>Unintentionally, these two things coincided. There was the release of

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes like the first sabotage in months, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the referendum released that same day, the solidarity statement for

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<v Speaker 2>all yes actions taken to stop Cop City. No, I

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<v Speaker 2>just think that needs the statement itself needs to be highlighted,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, I think it seems like they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>stick to that.

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<v Speaker 1>The solidarity statement was widely applauded and seen as a

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<v Speaker 1>good sign regarding the referendum's place in the larger fight

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<v Speaker 1>against Cop City and how it was not intending to

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<v Speaker 1>take space away from other aspects of the movement. Tuesday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a small protest outside the Cab County Border

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<v Speaker 1>Commisson's building to call for the reopening of Entrenchment Creek Park.

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<v Speaker 1>The park was a common gathering spot for the movement,

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<v Speaker 1>at where many people camped during previous weeks of action.

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<v Speaker 1>An executive order from DCAB CEO Michael Thurmond closed the

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<v Speaker 1>park late last March as the police geared up to

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<v Speaker 1>fortify Bolauni and speed run all of the tree felling.

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<v Speaker 2>So I sat in the Board of Commissioner's meeting and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's different than a city council meeting, where like

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<v Speaker 2>anybody who signs up to do public comment can do

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<v Speaker 2>public comment. They only a lot thirty minutes of public comment,

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<v Speaker 2>so about that amounts to ten speakers, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>about six of them were actually there for, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about opening the park. And then the rally,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was something like thirty thirty people. Was

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<v Speaker 2>a student organized rally and they did a couple speakers

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<v Speaker 2>and then that was that was it. Not much from

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<v Speaker 2>the CAB, Like the CAB only came out to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that they weren't blocking a pathway and it was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of hands off.

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<v Speaker 3>I did get a parking ticket, that was my fault,

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<v Speaker 3>you did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I let my parking expire for twelve minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>A legalist mascot at the ACPC wow.

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<v Speaker 2>H And yeah the minute I do something illegal, I

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<v Speaker 2>get a trapping ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>Previously in June that a CAB CEO proposed a one

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<v Speaker 1>point eight million dollar construction plan necessary to reopen the park,

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<v Speaker 1>but no clear date on when that would happen. One

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<v Speaker 1>County commissioner has been trying to fast track reopening the park,

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<v Speaker 1>but their resolution has repeatedly been deferred by the County Board.

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<v Speaker 1>The soonest it will be reconsidered is October tenth. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>the park will remain indefinitely closed. Throughout the first few

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<v Speaker 1>days of the Week of action. There was something kind

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<v Speaker 1>of looming over everyone's heads. There was a march planned

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<v Speaker 1>from Gresham Park towards Malawney that was to take place

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<v Speaker 1>on the evening of Wednesday, June twenty eighth. The police

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<v Speaker 1>response to this action was primed to be the most

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<v Speaker 1>intense out of the week. The path to Entrenchment Creek

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<v Speaker 1>Park is a pretty closed in bike path with a

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<v Speaker 1>tunnel going under an overpass where police have been staging

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<v Speaker 1>to prevent people from entering the forest.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely felt like on Monday and Tuesday, everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>still like thinking about what would happen on Wednesday, What

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<v Speaker 1>would happen on the march from Gresham Park. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the big unknown, That was the big danger.

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<v Speaker 2>Like very palpable. Yeah, concern about how that was going

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<v Speaker 2>to play out. Yeah, that probably, I mean all the

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<v Speaker 2>way back to Saturday, that was probably like playing through

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<v Speaker 2>people's minds and causing some of that like, yeah, uncertainty.

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<v Speaker 1>Police were setting up perimeters around the forest in an

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<v Speaker 1>increased capacity than the usual detail. Pretty early on in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, there was a DACAB County SWAT mobile command

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<v Speaker 1>center posted up in a school parking lot next to

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<v Speaker 1>the tunnel and bike path leading from Gresham to Wolani.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind Of as expected, this entire section of South Atlanta

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:15.399
<v Speaker 1>was crawling with police before people even gathered at Gresham Park.

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<v Speaker 1>The day began with an unfortunately rocky start and the

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<v Speaker 1>first arrest of the week outside Cadence Bank in Midtown.

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<v Speaker 1>The protest was calling on the bank to cancel their

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<v Speaker 1>twenty million dollar construction loan given to the Atlanta Police Foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was this action at Cadence Bank that they

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<v Speaker 2>specifically didn't want media and so none of us were there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was early in the morning. I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>think we found out about it after renoon or something,

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<v Speaker 2>so after I woke up. Yeah, I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>like they said, thirty people, kind of like we saw

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<v Speaker 2>the other day Friday. Yeah, on Friday. But as they

0:24:56.640 --> 0:25:00.119
<v Speaker 2>were walking away, somebody gets well multiple they try or

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<v Speaker 2>rest multiple people.

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<v Speaker 3>Please start chasing people.

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Someone gets grabbed and arrested, another person gets detained and

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 1>then let go. Seemed like a pretty chaotic scene. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not a great way to start off the day where

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you have your most stressful action plan for later. You

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 1>wake up, you get chased by cops, and you're expecting

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 1>to go do a march in a few hours in

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 1>the most heavily police area of Atlanta right now. The

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 1>march was to take place on the same bike path

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 1>from Gresham Park to Intrenchment Creek Park that people took

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 1>during the kickoff rally at the last week of Action,

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:37.119
<v Speaker 1>but much has changed on the ground since then. As

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 1>people started to gather at Gresham Park on Wednesday evening,

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 1>the numbers were quite small. As I progressed, around one

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty people eventually amassed, but it was still

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:49.199
<v Speaker 1>a small fraction of the number of people at the

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:53.880
<v Speaker 1>previous Gresham Park march and with a much greater police presence.

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 1>The exact plan for the night was heavily dependent on

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:01.399
<v Speaker 1>a lot of factors that it was impossible to explicitly

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<v Speaker 1>know beforehand, like how many people would show up and

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<v Speaker 1>what they would feel comfortable doing based on the police response.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday, June twenty eighth.

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<v Speaker 4>Me and Matt from the Community.

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Press Collective are gathered at Gresham Park. Overhead you can

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:23.480
<v Speaker 1>hear the Tacab helicopter circle at favorite sound, our favorite sound. Yes,

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 1>there's about I don't know, maybe seventy five or more,

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:31.200
<v Speaker 1>close to one hundred, close to one hundred people gathered

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:34.679
<v Speaker 1>here in Gresham Park and people have plans to march

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>towards Wolani or at least to the tunnel, and then

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:43.119
<v Speaker 1>what happens after that's kind of a big mystery. Definitely

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 1>very different than the last time we were gathered in

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Gresham Park with a crowd of people.

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 2>We're missing the music, We're missing the duwali like paint clouds,

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:56.639
<v Speaker 2>We're missing the kids, We're missing maybe the vibes. Just

0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 2>in general.

0:26:57.160 --> 0:27:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Another eight hundred people or so, but I mean people

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 1>are setting out science and some banners. Police have a

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:09.439
<v Speaker 1>decent presence around the around like the tunnel or like

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>the overpass over the tunnel, and around Wilani.

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Right now, all around the Wilanni triangle there's there APD

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:21.199
<v Speaker 2>and the Cab County Police just hanging out more than usual.

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 2>And at the fire station there was more cops than

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:26.119
<v Speaker 2>I've seen since.

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>March fifth, since the last week of action. Yeah, earlier

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>this morning, I saw a da KEB County swat nobile

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>command unit at the school next to the tunnel overpass,

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>but I do not know where that is now. It

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 1>was it was not parked there last time we drove

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:47.199
<v Speaker 1>by about half an hour ago. So yeah, just that is.

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 1>That is the update as of as of six thirty.

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:53.680
<v Speaker 1>So I'm guessing this crowd will start moving the next

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes to forty minutes, probably have hour. Yeah, all right, Right,

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 1>as the crowd was about to set off, someone made

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:04.160
<v Speaker 1>an announcement that due to small numbers and large police presence,

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 1>there was to be a change of plans. Instead of

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>going all the way to Entrenchment Creek Park or even

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the tunnel, they were going to march one third of

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the way and stop on the bike path. All right,

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>it's around seven to twenty pm, about one hundred and

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:22.360
<v Speaker 1>fifty people are leaving Gresham Park and they announced they're

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:25.640
<v Speaker 1>going to be going to hold a small vigil near

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>one of one of the felled trees on the bike path.

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 1>For a little while, the march was getting along fine,

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>there was music and chanting, when suddenly police made an

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>early appearance. Okay, so it's what seven seven forty seven

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 1>fifty seven forty one on Wednesday, June twenty eighth.

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 4>We are walking on the bike path and staged.

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Twenty five minutes into the walk and here we come

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 2>on our first police presence of the day along our path.

0:28:57.680 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 2>So too thinking to cap County, Yeah, two to cab

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>County SuDS part side by side along the path. But

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 2>they're not out of their vehicles.

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 3>No, so.

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 4>I think the crowd searsal order.

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 3>They might try to give it a spursal order because

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 3>there's too many people. Yeah. I didn't think they would

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 3>try to fuck with it this soon.

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 4>I thought they would wait to the tunnel.

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 1>A small number of police were posted up right before

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 1>the first bridge on the bike path, roughly about halfway

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>to the tunnel. If they wanted to, the crowd could

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 1>have marched past the police as they were not blocking

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the path. The two cop cars couldn't even follow behind

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>because there was big metal bulgards preventing vehicles from going

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>on the Wooden bridge, but the visible police caused the

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>group to pause.

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 2>There was that one speech that we need to touch

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.959
<v Speaker 2>on from that night, and that was the speaker said,

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 2>in order to win, we have to let go of

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 2>the idea of losing while looking good. Yeah, and that

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 2>I think is going to inform whatever the direct action

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 2>side of things are for the next this next phase

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 2>of the movement.

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>While paused in front of the police cruisers, the crowd

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 1>deliberated on what they wanted to do and what they

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>thought they could accomplish. After a few minutes of discussion,

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 1>they decided that they were not prepared to unnecessarily sacrifice themselves.

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 1>One of the people from the crowd spoke briefly not

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>only on this decision, but also how it fits into

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the difficult situation the movement has found itself in. Right now,

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to quote a little bit from this impromptu

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>speech quote. We shouldn't come away from this feeling demoralized.

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>We should feel clarity because we believe we set out

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to participate in a movement to obstruct the construction of

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>a police militarization site, but that is not being allowed

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>to happen. The people we're fighting against believe we are

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>a domestic insurgency. They are treating us like an insurgency.

0:30:56.080 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>The state is using militaristic language like denying anarchists operating space,

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and so we're going to great lengths to be safe,

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>to play it safe, and to go slow, and to

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>proceed rationally and defend one another. But we're coming under

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>constant attack. Everything we do, we're under attack unquote. Just

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>earlier that morning, people were attacked by the state and

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 1>arrested as they stood on the sidewalk outside of a bank.

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Those who work to bail activists out of jail are attacked.

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 1>People doing on the ground jail support are physically attacked

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and face police intimidation.

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 4>Quote.

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>We don't want to be engaged in a failing struggle.

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Our enemy is treating us like terrorists. That's what they're

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>calling us, and that's what they believe we are. It's

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>not just a rhetorical trick. That's how they're treating the movement.

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>And so we have to figure out how we're going

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>to win, because we intend to win. But you can't

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>just only defend yourself. The safest thing for us to

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 1>do is to never go to a protest about this movement. Again,

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>if our top priority is safety, everyone who is not

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>currently facing charges should move away, should not go to

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>events or actions. But if we have a higher priority

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 1>than safety alone, we're going to have to figure out

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>what we're going to do to achieve that, which is

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>going to require going on the offense when we're able

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>and how we're able. This movement has been very creative,

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 1>and we're going to have to continue to be more

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and more creative, and we're going to have to continue

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to deploy all available means in order to have this

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of offensive, victorious, and strong movement that we all

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>deserve when we fight, when we attack the enemy, when

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 1>we have our offensive actions, we have to follow through

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 1>with them. We have to go all the way with them.

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 1>We have to be willing to believe in ourselves to

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 1>believe that we can win. And so I believe that

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 1>we are going to win this movement, and I think

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>you guys believe that we're going to win this movement.

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>But that's going to require us to abandon the idea

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>of looking good while losing. We can't look good losing.

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 1>So are we look good losing or are we going

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to win?

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 3>All right?

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 4>It is eight o'clock.

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>The crowd sat in the middle of the trail behind

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>the first bridge, where two.

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 4>Decap County vehicles were parked.

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>They deliberated for a little bit, and then a few

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 1>people spoke and now the crowd has turned around at

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>a marching back to Greshiam.

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Park, marching back, no arrests. We do have two helicopters

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 2>now hanging over us. That's my favorite thing in the world.

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Part and a lot of other decav on the ground

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 1>in other parts of the bike path, in the trails.

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they would have walked directly into what looked like

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 2>a full swat team above the bridge. So they made

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 2>the right choice, is.

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 3>What it seems like to me.

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And they talked about their intentionality of the decision,

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>and it's how it's important to not just keep losing

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>while trying to look cool and throw yourself out a

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 1>line of police.

0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that hopefully, I mean, what what does that

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 2>look like in practice? I guess we'll see you over

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 2>the next few months, three.

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Days, three days to two months, yeah, three.

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Days, several months. But it does sound like there's some

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 2>attempt now a directionality that wasn't I wasn't sing yeah

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 2>until this is.

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:23.280
<v Speaker 1>The exact same march people tried to do back in March,

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and they did it, and they're trying to do it

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:26.280
<v Speaker 1>here again in June.

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 4>And it doesn't work. It didn't It doesn't work the

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 4>first time.

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't work.

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:31.879
<v Speaker 4>It worked the first time, it does' wanke second time.

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 4>So now it's time to change something exact.

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>On the walk back to Grushiam Park, we got clear

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>photos of the amount of riot police waiting for us

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 1>at the tunnel and it was a great many.

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, there is a lot.

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of of a riot.

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:50.760
<v Speaker 4>And that was when of the vans posted above the tunnel.

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:54.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that a trailer. Yeah, that's what they bring

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 2>all their riot shields in. Okay.

0:34:57.840 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that that would have sucked.

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 2>That would not have been fun.

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 4>No, that would have gone very poorly.

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 2>Would have been tear gas though, and I do miss

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 2>being tear gas.

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.239
<v Speaker 3>I can like spray with pepper spray if you want.

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:09.800
<v Speaker 2>It's not the same as tear gas.

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 3>I can spray right now if you want.

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Matt ultimately declined to be pepper sprayed. Torti Guita's mother,

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Belkise Tearan, came to Gresham Park to also join the march.

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 2>So what we had was one hundred and fifty people

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 2>in Belkis Tarran and I think that that, yeah, plays

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 2>a role in how this goes on.

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 3>Nov Having bell Keise.

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Very like visibly present, like walking up to everybody there

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 1>and greeting them. Just having her presence there affects what

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 1>people want to do, and it reminds you of what's

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 1>actually like the actual stakes at hand, so you're caring

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>for everyone around you in a much more like conscious capacity.

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Belcise spoke, a few other people spoke, and then they

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:56.839
<v Speaker 1>turned around and headed back to Greshia and that was

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 1>the decision that was made and no no one was hurt,

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.439
<v Speaker 1>no one was arrested. People got back to Gresham Park.

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Some people had ice cream.

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Two people in particular had ice cream and they were

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 2>very happy about it. It definitely wasn't maybe it was us.

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 3>Other people also had ice cream.

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 2>Other people did have ice cream. I don't think they

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 2>were quite as excited.

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 3>It's like the overpriced ice.

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Throughout the week, you could tell that people were really

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.280
<v Speaker 1>wanting to be back in the forest and Wilani People's Park.

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:28.479
<v Speaker 1>People made do gathering at Brownwood Park, but it wasn't

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 1>the same. There was an undeniable distance between where people

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>were gathered this week of action and the sight of

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<v Speaker 1>all the previous battles in the Wilani. The fact that

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<v Speaker 1>so much of the forest had already been destroyed loomed

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<v Speaker 1>heavily over the week, and that's something that people are

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<v Speaker 1>still processing and are still comprehending. Another big aspect of

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<v Speaker 1>the week, like this is this is the first week

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<v Speaker 1>of action where people haven't gone in the gone in

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<v Speaker 1>the willani Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's no action, which feels weird. Well, we should

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<v Speaker 2>say in the triangle because you know, the forest is obviously, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the site, like this is the first time that

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<v Speaker 1>people haven't been like in the forest, and that's a

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<v Speaker 1>new thing to navigate, that's a new feeling to navigate,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's there's a different there's a different.

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<v Speaker 2>Sense multiple chance.

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<v Speaker 1>There's multiple chance being like not one lead, don't cut

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<v Speaker 1>down the trees and like the trees are gone, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's the site's been cleared, and I think people are

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<v Speaker 1>still catching up to that and like rel Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>still something that people are processing and they're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to process that if they want to like continue, like

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<v Speaker 1>they have to like look at the situation being like

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<v Speaker 1>this is we have to accept what has happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we can choose what's to do, because you can't

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<v Speaker 3>act as.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't deny what the reality is.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and you can't act as if the trees are

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<v Speaker 1>still there, because that's going to change the type of

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<v Speaker 1>the types of like actions you do. Like you can't

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<v Speaker 1>trace it in the in the trees. It's it's changing

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<v Speaker 1>the actual actions people are going to take to try

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<v Speaker 1>to stop copsitting. I think the Wednesday action almost needed

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. So many people still dream about what if

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<v Speaker 1>we could reoccupy Wollane. People are still caught in that

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<v Speaker 1>headspace because they got so used to that over the

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<v Speaker 1>course of almost two years, so inevitably there was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be an attempt where a few hundred people try

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<v Speaker 1>to re enter Willane People's park. They're almost needed to

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<v Speaker 1>be an attempt just to see what would happen, And

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<v Speaker 1>we saw what would happen. And now people can use

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<v Speaker 1>that action as reference when making future plans and decisions

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<v Speaker 1>about actions, because you can point back to this and

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrate what the police response will be when people march

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<v Speaker 1>to Wolani. Massive amounts of SWAT riot police waiting for you,

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<v Speaker 1>SWAT mobile command centers, heavily armed police estanged on roads, overpasses, entrances,

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<v Speaker 1>and all around the forest. Specifically waiting for people to

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<v Speaker 1>try to cross over or through the tunnel, so now

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<v Speaker 1>people know what will happen if they try and do

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing again. In some ways, it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>needed to not just be theoretical speculation, but actually happen

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<v Speaker 1>so that people can now truly allow themselves to evolve,

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<v Speaker 1>so that you don't have this question in the back

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<v Speaker 1>of your head, because now that question has been answered,

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<v Speaker 1>you would be throwing yourself at a wall of swat

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<v Speaker 1>and riot gear. And now everyone can let themselves evolve

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<v Speaker 1>and start figuring out what new things can be fostered

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<v Speaker 1>and imagined. We'll hear more about those evolutions and conclude

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<v Speaker 1>my coverage of the week of Action in the next episode.

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