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Speaker 1: with number twelve, the Cleveland Cavaliers. Um, you guys of

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Speaker 1: get your podcast under Hoops tonight. So fair warning to

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Speaker 1: Cavs fans. We did just spend about twenty minutes on

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Speaker 1: just because we've already hit on a lot of these

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Speaker 1: specific bases. So last year they were twenty in offense,

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Speaker 1: against Atlanta in the play in game. UM super eventful offseason.

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