1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: Welcome to stuff they don't want you to know. Thank 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: you for tuning in. This is sort of our intro 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: before the intro. Hun guys, Yeah, this is like the 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: video that plays first for you on a YouTube playlist? 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Is this like director's commentary? What are you doing here? 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: It would be nice, It would be nice. This is well. 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: We wanted to give everybody heads up. Uh. We have, 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: as you know, longtime listeners. Uh Matt Nolan myself have 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: been recording in quarantine. Uh where a bunch of quentin 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: quarantineos over here. Uh. And so we decided we wanted 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: to be productive with our time. We went back and 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: looked over a list of topics that we investigated before 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: but never found a satisfactory answer to, and we wondered 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: if you could help us out. Yeah, Like the first 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: one on our list here, the Lake City Quiet Pills. 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: What the heck was that about? If you don't already know, 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: get ready, it's a wild ride. That was one of 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: my favorites. Um. The name it's elf takes on a 19 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: very sinister meaning once you really dig into the episode. 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: The idea of quiet pills, right, Matt, oh yeah, And 21 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: it jumps through everything from a well known person or 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: name you might recognize a Lisa Lamb, what happened to her? 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: How about Tarasee to Bassa. There's a really interesting story 24 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: in there about revenge or possibly revenge. There's all kinds 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: of stuff in this playlist. You're hopefully going to really 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: enjoy these mysterious topics that we've got lined up for you, 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: and it'll give you um something to hang on to. Well, 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: maybe you, like us, are quentin quarantining it? Yeah, please 29 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: please check them out again. All all ten of these 30 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: shows end with us not having a definitive answer, and 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: they're located around the world. We'd love to hear your thoughts. 32 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: You can find us in all the usual places enjoy 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: from UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 34 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Hello, 36 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: and welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 37 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: my name is Noel. They called me Ben You are 38 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: you and that makes this stuff they don't want you 39 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: to know. Today we're talking about something, uh, something pretty weird. 40 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: So maybe by way of segue, we can we can 41 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the Internet. Guys, ever heard 42 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: of that the Internet? What's that big deal? That's a 43 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: big deal. So what is it though? The Internet? I'm 44 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: so glad you asked. Uh, let's let's just explain that 45 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: we're kidding. If you're listening to this show, you already 46 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: know what the Internet is. You've listened to our earlier 47 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: episodes on the Dark Web, and we would like to 48 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: recommend a guy that we usually give a hard time to. Uh. 49 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: If you want to get a good nuts and bolts 50 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: explanation of the technology at work behind the Internet, head 51 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: on over to Tech Stuff with our friends recurring guests, Yeah, 52 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: recurring guest host and of course our complaint department Jonathan Strickland. 53 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: He's kind of a friend of me in a way. 54 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: You know, when I first started working here, he promoted 55 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: me to Nemesis at some point, and I thought he 56 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: would let it he I thought eventually we get tired 57 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: of it. Did you know? You guys have been arriving 58 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: that crazy train ever since. I know, but he does 59 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: know his stuff about the Internet and technology. We're going 60 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: to talk specifically about a strange mystery that occurred on 61 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: on Reddit a number of years ago with a strange 62 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: name it's called Lake City Quiet Pills. That's pretty cool. 63 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why. It gives me a shutter. It'll 64 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: give you more of a shutter once we get into it. 65 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Something about that just on its own. Remember the last 66 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: episode we talked about how like kind of simple, straightforward 67 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: names seemed the most nefarious at times. That has that thing, Yeah, definitely, 68 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: absolutely well we this thing is found was found originated 69 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: on a website called Reddit. If you don't know what 70 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: Reddit is, let's get into it. It's a news slash 71 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: meme I would say aggregator. I think I would say 72 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: it kind of leans heavily on the second. Maybe you know, 73 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of news. That's where I get a 74 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 1: lot of my news. Uh. And in theory, it's driven 75 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: by reader interests. This it's up votes, down votes instead 76 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: of creating its own, you know, stories of Reddit publishing things. 77 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: It takes articles from other parts of the web, images 78 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: from other parts of the web, throws it on there 79 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: and let's all of the people vote on what's the 80 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: best and what's the worst. And the name itself is 81 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,119 Speaker 1: a portmanteau really of reading and editing, and the people 82 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: that contribute to it are referred to as redditors because 83 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: not only do they consume the content on the side, 84 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: they are also largely responsible for the content on the site. 85 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: And there is sort of a hierarchy of up voting 86 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: and downfloding, like you're talking about, as far as what 87 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: rises to the top and what things to the bottom. 88 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: So in theory, if everything is working well, read it 89 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: will become the sum of its participants interest And just 90 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: like Noel and Matt explained, uh, that's rough up voting 91 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: down voting of things. Reddit users, this is very important, 92 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: are to a degree anonymous. Um, so sure we've looked 93 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: and we've looked into this in the past. It's it's 94 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: essentially so inconvenient to be anonymous on the web that 95 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: you might as well consider it impossible. But read, it 96 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: makes it very easy for someone to have a different 97 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: identity part of the draw. Really, yeah, I I would 98 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: absolutely agree. And but sure, our our buddy are poor, 99 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: unfortunate and essay intern Steve oh Man, Steve, are you 100 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: doing okay? He probably knows everyone's real name and address, 101 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: But the average reddit user won't know anything about other 102 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: reddit users or redditors unless they choose to reveal these 103 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: details that means that it's very very difficult to know 104 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: what's true, and the community has evolved ways to prove 105 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: things when necessary, but for the most part you can 106 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: do and saying post whatever you want. And lastly, it 107 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: is like almost like an ecosystem. It's it's it's sort 108 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: of like a combination sort of hybrid message board where 109 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: there are little communities, subcommunities, people that know each other 110 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: and that communicate on a regular basis and may voluntarily 111 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: share information with one another within a particularly close knit 112 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: community within the reddit, you know, ecosystem. That's a really 113 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: good point. Yeah, And another thing that we need to 114 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: look at here is when you make an account, a 115 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: Reddit account, and you make posts, anyone can click on 116 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: the name of your account and see an entire backlog 117 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: of everything that you've publicly posted as a user of Reddit, 118 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: which is super handy to the story we're getting into today, 119 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: because there is one person in particular that we're going 120 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: to focus on that this whole story revolves around. Yes, 121 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: all of this brings us to a redditor named Religion 122 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: of Peace all one word. This reditor was a shady 123 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: dude sketching person bad hombre, apparently based on his comments right, Uh, 124 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: he was tied to some disreputable parts of Reddit. We 125 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: do want to warn you that some of the things 126 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: we're going to be citing here are severely not safe 127 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: for work, not anfl in sfl not safe for life, 128 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: So you if you desire to visit these, visit them 129 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: at your own risk. So, as Noel mentioned, Creddit is 130 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: an ecosystem that has these different communities that are focused 131 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: on specific interests. So there might be you can also 132 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: anyone can make a new community, So there might be 133 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: something that's just for camaros. There might be something that's 134 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: just for magic the gathering, magic the gathering, just like 135 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: like a George R. Martin or something like that particular 136 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: series of books, you know, a product even I mean 137 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: it gets as granular as you your imagination will allow. 138 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: I think there's a subredit for our one of our 139 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: peer shows. Stuff you should know. Actually, you know, we 140 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: officially have one subredit conspiracy stuff we do. We do 141 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: uh a user and I am so sorry if you're 142 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: listening to this. I don't remember who which person made 143 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: it for us, but it exists there. Oh holy smokes, 144 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: it's waiting to be curated by you, not not being 145 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: a null, but you the listener, you specifically listening to this, 146 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: not a general you know, you specifically like the you 147 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: like in the name of the show, like the stuff 148 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: they don't want you ye that you. It all just 149 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: came around to me that I realized that's that you. 150 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: We've been talking about this whole time, all right, So 151 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: now that we have established this, we know that people 152 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: can make their own communities. This guy Religion of Peace 153 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: was a moderator an administrator of UH communities like jail bait. Yeah, 154 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: he's the one that he was a moderator of was 155 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: true jail bait, which sounds even worse. So this would 156 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: be you know, this is essentially on the line of 157 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: UM underage pornography. And he also ran a website called 158 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: that Old Guy's Image Host. Again, as Noel said in 159 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: sfl UH does contain pornographic material. And ordinarily this kind 160 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: of posting history. It's it's unfortunate, it's sleazy, but it's 161 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: not completely unheard of in in forums, you know, like 162 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: Reddit or It's Evil Genius, UH sibling four Chan. You know, 163 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: these these kind of things happen because in a lot 164 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: of ways, people feel empowered when they are anonymous, and 165 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: they will do things that you know they would never 166 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: do if you knew their real names. Back in July 167 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, another redditor going by the name 168 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: too six announced that Religion of Peace had passed away 169 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: at the age of seventy nine, and not that he 170 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: passed away, but that he was seventy nine and moderating. 171 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: Right if this is true? Now this again, this seems yeah, 172 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: this seems sad but normal. You know, you can, as 173 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: Matt said, see the comments that are Reddit user has 174 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: made laid out in a timeline, and Religion of Pieces 175 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: comments are very interesting and far afield from what you 176 00:10:55,520 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: would expect to find. It appears, in fact, that he 177 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: was someone with a lot of military backgrounds and that 178 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: his I guess criminal interest didn't just stay in the 179 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: flesh trade. He apparently specialized in arranging assassinations. Perhaps perhaps so, 180 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: should we go through a couple of the posts that 181 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: he made, just so we can establish like more information 182 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: about this guy. Well, first of little background, like what 183 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: are we talking at here? Like? What what made this 184 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: language unusual? Okay? Sure, right, so the we walked through 185 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: it this way. So remember the website we mentioned a 186 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: minute ago, there was a predator named Zassa Cookwan who 187 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: found some information hidden in the page source in the 188 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: source code of that old guy's image host, and it 189 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: had the strange domain name of www dot Lake City, 190 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: Quiet pills dot com. The site was also run by 191 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: Religion of Peace. What this Reddit user found appeared to 192 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: be these coded messages related to hiring people to conduct 193 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: uh these military operations. And shortly after this was discovered 194 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: and armchair investigators were checking into it, another redditor found 195 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: that the code had changed. Whoever was running the site 196 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: had I guess up their game and used encrypted hashes. 197 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: So here's the kind of stuff they were saying before 198 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: the code changed. I would say, standing on the no 199 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: fly list, let us know ahead of time to make arrangements. 200 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: Twelve March two thousand ten spec UH four person team. 201 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: These are all in a lot of like very strange 202 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: shorthand initially slashes and shorthands and abbreviations and acronyms and 203 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: things like that, And people have made guesses about what 204 00:12:54,640 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: some of this means. So for instance, there's um, there's 205 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: a part where it says fed c c W A 206 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: plus that means is probably UH concealing carry permit UH 207 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: and also says stuff like no us WW that probably 208 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: stands for wants and warrants and this. These references go 209 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: around with UM with other parts of the world, like 210 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: the European Union is mentioned here. UH. Fluency in French 211 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: or fluency in English are mentioned here. And depending on 212 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: the people you ask UH this, there are people ex 213 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: military who say that this sounds like outdated military speak. 214 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: So this could mean and this could mean that Religion 215 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: of Peace. Who's apparently also known as Dutch Milo is 216 00:13:55,080 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: a retired service member who went mercenary and nowadays there's 217 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: a lot of money in going private industry. I mean, 218 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: I can't remember what Blackwater is calling itself now, Academic 219 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: or something perhaps, or they'll just think they'll get a 220 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: more increasingly vague name until one day they're just group incorporated, 221 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: you know. But when people found us, they thought, what 222 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: the heck is going on? Who is the shade guy 223 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: of the referencing who's Dutch Milo? Is this an elaborate hoax? 224 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: Is this a marketing campaign? Some people thought it was 225 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: an alternate reality game. Is this an assassination squad? Well 226 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: we'll find out right after a quick sponsor break. Here's 227 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: where it gets crazy. So we've established what's happening everything 228 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: up to now is a real thing. The big question 229 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: which people haven't quite been able to crack yet is 230 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: whether this is you know, whether whether this is just 231 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: somebody trolling on the internet, or whether it is a 232 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: genuine mercenary ring or intelligence op of some sort that 233 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: was discovered. And there are arguments for and against it 234 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: being a hoax. But Matt, what's okay? So one of 235 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: the things we heard a lot when the argument in 236 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: the arguments for it being a hoax was the concept 237 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: of an a r G, as you said, an alternate 238 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: reality game. Could you tell us a little bit about that. Oh? Sure, 239 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: one of these things is going to be involving all 240 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: kinds of different electronics, sometimes manual transmissions. Um, you're talking 241 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: about secret posts on websites, codes that are hidden somewhere 242 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: that if you're playing the game and you know what 243 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: the game is, you're gonna be looking for it. But 244 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: if you're not, then it's going to be innocuous. This 245 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: is not like a U based like app, like a 246 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: war game that has like a top down game type 247 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: set up. This is like almost like an a digital 248 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: scavenger hunt kind of set up where it's established what 249 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: the rules are, what the rules of play are, and 250 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: then you kind of have to figure out where what 251 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: you're looking for and where to look. Right kind of, yeah, 252 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,359 Speaker 1: this is something that sort of out of my wheelhouse 253 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm trying to understand. It gets used 254 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: a lot in viral marketing for say, of film. Right, 255 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: so if you want to, uh, if you want to 256 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: get people excited about a Matrix reboot, which spoiler alert 257 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: is apparently happening, then you would, as as a marketer, 258 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: you would go and pepper in these little breadcrumbs on 259 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: these different websites and people would maybe just see a 260 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: billboard that had a phone number, and if you went 261 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: to that phone number, you get a weird message. I 262 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: remember one with the movie clover Field for example, with 263 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: the you know it's like a monster movie slush show. Yeah, 264 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: they had all these like sub brands that websites would 265 00:16:58,520 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: pop up and you would be like, what the hell 266 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: is us and then realize, oh, you click here and 267 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: it cross linked you back to another thing, and yeah, 268 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: I get it. It does kind of like create this 269 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: holmost mythology for a product and it gets people talking 270 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: about it, and people you know on the internet love that. Yeah, 271 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: but there are other communities out there where it's not 272 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: just for marketing. It's a game that you can play 273 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: where if you sign up, you know, you create an 274 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: account on a website and you sign up to play 275 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: this game, then you'll get calls in the middle of 276 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: the night with someone who gives you like a secret 277 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: message or something by a real human or if sometimes 278 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: by a robot, and then you it'll give you coordinates, 279 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: or it'll give you a place to be at a 280 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: certain time, and there will be a physical note left 281 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: there for you, or they'll be like a VHS tape 282 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: in a padded envelope left on your doorstep with footage 283 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: of you sleeping on it. I guess I'm just trying 284 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: to stress that these things are very real. They're not 285 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: always for marketing, and they you know, you can play 286 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: them for any number of reasons. Sure, um, sometimes to 287 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: scare yourself, sometimes for the mystery, and sometimes for the marketing, 288 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: and sometimes for john applications or for entry into elite 289 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: communities like Cicadae. Yes, when you know we had an 290 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: update from wired uh or ours technic I believe about that, uh, 291 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: that experience, because an anonymous robotics student actually did manage 292 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: to crack the code, got into the gang, and you know, 293 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: worked with them on open source stuff, so that mystery 294 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: was somewhat salved. The reason we're bringing up these examples 295 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: is because we want to we want to outline that 296 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: this is more common, perhaps than you might think, and 297 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: this blurring of the line between reality and fiction is 298 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: much more easily accomplished now that we we live in 299 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: this world of instantaneous, pervasive information. So it could be 300 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: that it could be that someone just made it up 301 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: and said, you know, this is this is gonna be 302 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: my my opus maybe at all. Maybe you break maybe 303 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: you break some kind of code now that they use, 304 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: like hash encryptions and stuff. Maybe break some kind of 305 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: code somehow, and you get a web address and you 306 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: type it in and it's just a rick Roll video. Maybe. 307 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: But to do all that on that website, to do 308 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: all of this through an almost underage if not underage, 309 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, pornography site, pretty creepy, that's true. So when 310 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: let's talk about some things that would some connected tissues. 311 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: So when uh, when that redator to six announced that 312 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,239 Speaker 1: religion and peace had passed away or Dutch Milo. They 313 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: said that they were going to bury him near various ashes, 314 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: near a farm, uh that he used to live on, 315 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: but there was a mall there now. So people have 316 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: based on the name Lake City and this information about farm, 317 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: tried to trace the coordinates of this. Um okay, I'm 318 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: getting a little bit ahead of myself. Uh. The to 319 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: six even just to keep you there. To six even 320 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: posted an image and said this, here's where Milo is now. 321 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: And it's an image on Google Maps, and it's right 322 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: next to a little strip mall. It's just it looks 323 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: like a place that's being developed, like a little attracted 324 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: land that's being developed. He's like, that's where he is. 325 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: So there's another there's another important thing here. We're talking 326 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: about the name Lake City, quiet pills, creepy, right. It 327 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 1: comes from another person on a website called farc An Angel. 328 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: To six remember far from back in the day that 329 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: was I used to go to that site. Yeah yeah, 330 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: it's I mean some back in the day stuff. He 331 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: was posting there since two thousand and one. And his 332 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: tagline was, you know, like his signature line that woul 333 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 1: show up and then four was dispensing Lake City Quiet 334 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: pills to lousy bastards and need a permanent rest since nine, Yes, 335 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: and his email address was at Lake City quiet Pills 336 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 1: dot com. So it would appear then that he and 337 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: Dutch Milo would both have access to this or are 338 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: the same person pretending to be different people. But this 339 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: is way back in two thousand one. I mean, this 340 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: is really committing to the bit, isn't it. And we 341 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: have just to reiterate here. The Reddit user's name is 342 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: to dash six, and then this is angel to dash six, 343 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: except in this version on farc it's spelled out t 344 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: W O s I X. And we also see these 345 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: different connections that a lot of astute rehdators have made 346 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: with the Lake City connection. Remember that rehdator we mentioned 347 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: uh zass co quwan Uh that's Ojibe for fry bread. 348 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: And we have uh someone name's sister psythe who said 349 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: that they were uh that that they identified the location 350 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: of that map that to six posted that it's a 351 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: reservation at Fondu Lack. This means that, in this read's opinion, 352 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: lake City could be a reference to Duluth, Minnesota. But 353 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: there's another and somewhat more compelling argument for Lake City 354 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: quiet pills. Yeah, it's in Missouri, maybe because there's this 355 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: thing called the Lake City Army Ammunition Plant. It's in Independence, Missouri. 356 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 1: It was originally constructed in nineteen one by the by 357 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: Uncle Sam. And it's one of several government owned ammunition 358 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: plants where they make all the bullets for the Army 359 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: and Navy and Air Force and special forces, all that stuff. 360 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: And it's the primary it's the United State's primary production 361 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: source for small caliber rifle ammunition, hence a Lake City 362 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: quiet pill. And it's commonly referred to as Lake City AMMO. 363 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: And the plant itself is pretty famous among shooters and handloaders. 364 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: Most people hadn't heard them being called quiet pills before. 365 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: Most of the American military surplus am O that people 366 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: do use to shoot comes from Lake City. Like, this 367 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: place is an enormous plant. There are people who, let's 368 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: go back and forth on this, but I like that 369 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: we're pro and conning the the truthiness of it. So 370 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: and there are other people who think this is absolutely hoax. 371 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: Timeline be damned. They say that, um, they say that 372 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: religion of Peace is not A guy who served in 373 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: the military in the late forties, and they do some 374 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: oats because religion of pieces. I was in the Navy 375 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: until forty five. I didn't see any land combat until 376 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: Palestine and forty seven. I saw it then both sides, 377 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: and continued seeing it until I got too old. So 378 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: if we walk through some of the math, that would 379 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: make him eighteen at least in mean he was born 380 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: earlier the which would make him eighty in two thousand seven, 381 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: around eight two in two thousand nine when to six 382 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: said that he passed away. So maybe the story is changing. 383 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: Maybe the guy is mistaken. We don't know how well 384 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: they knew each other. Uh. There's another thing people try 385 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: called contextual grammar analysis, and this would be running a 386 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: passage through a through an algorithm essentially, or through some 387 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: software that would guess the age of the person writing. 388 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys feel. I think that's 389 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: in interesting science, but I don't know how dependable that is. 390 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet the farm on it. Where the strip mall. 391 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: There's also seems to be a perspective if you dig 392 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: through some of the Reddit threads on this subject, that 393 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: a lot, if not all, of the people involved in 394 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: this ring, and that we're posting on this site were 395 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: ex military where it was like a ring of like 396 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: former rangers and you know, high level, highly trained military 397 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: personnel um and that that kind of rings true here 398 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, I could definitely see it. So if 399 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: they're tied into let us say, for the sake of argument, 400 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: that the the Let's say, for the sake of argument, 401 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: that this is some sort of mercenary or assassin ring 402 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: or even an intelligence operation. The first question would be, 403 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: why would you put these kind of notes in source 404 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: code on you know, a porn site, publicly available porn slite. 405 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: It seems pretty easy, easily discovered. Should we read a 406 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: couple more exerts. Yeah, I think that's a great idea. 407 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: I got a really good one. This is the one 408 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: that really got to me from Religion of Peace, posted 409 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,479 Speaker 1: seven years ago, and it got two points, you guys say, 410 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm and this is just an excerpt from it. Of course, 411 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: there are assassinations. There are some things that the legal 412 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: system can't fix. So many people actually believe that as 413 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: left up as things are right now, and as they 414 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: have been for the last twenty years, that they aren't needed. 415 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: I can think of any number of criminal organizations that 416 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: would benefit from a dose of Lake City quiet pills. 417 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: So there you have Religion of Peace using that phrase. 418 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: And some of the other threads that I've digging through here, 419 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: we have a perspective that some uh folks believed that 420 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: this language was almost written in a way that made 421 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: it sound like you would expect ex military to sound, 422 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: or like that the coded language talk was just so 423 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 1: over the top as not to really be legit. But 424 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: there's actually another podcast called Thinking Sideways that did the 425 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: episode on this, and they consulted, according to their post 426 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: here on Reddit, consulted a large number of ex military 427 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: special ops experts, et cetera um, and they seem to 428 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: believe that, as you mentioned earlier, than it was simply 429 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: more of an old school way of speaking or writing 430 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: these codes, and that most of them that they showed 431 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: it to felt that it was in fact legit, which 432 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: is interesting, goes you know, it's going back and forth 433 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: on this. If they if they are arranging assassinations in 434 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: real life, then we would be able to or we 435 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: would hope that we would be able to find an 436 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: example of an assassination, you know what I mean, Unless 437 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: these people are just getting together and LARPing. Well, there 438 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: might have been one. There may be one example rights 439 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: spot on Matt the assassination of moth Mood al Mabbo. 440 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: Can we take a quick sponsor break before we hop 441 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: into the details of that case. Absolutely. As we mentioned 442 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: before the break, we do have more examples of these 443 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: comments that were found in the source code or in 444 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: the page source and we'll walk through a couple of 445 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: these and maybe see if they attached to a specific assassination. Right, So, 446 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: our first first example here would be um January January, 447 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: and it reads happy New Year everyone, We're having a 448 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: birthday party for the old man. On the nineteenth party 449 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: starts the usual send you r s v P to shade. 450 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: Listen to the shade keeps popping up. F y I. 451 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: We're booking a room for three days for anyone coming 452 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: from out of area and overnight for locals. Come hoist 453 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: one for Dutch Milo. Okay, So it's an invite to 454 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: a birthday party. That sounds innocuous, sounds fine. And then 455 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: on the of January we see another message. We got 456 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: thirty eight rooms in the Marriott on forty six. Shade 457 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: has the key cards for locals pick up at the party, 458 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: give your travel name to the desk and that's it. 459 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: No I d needed since we're covering the bill, keep 460 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: the room service under five okay, swanky, the phones are 461 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: not secure. Bus from the hotel leaves att car service 462 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: vouchers for return trip when you're ready to crash. Don't 463 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: d U I interesting wording here. I'm really interested in 464 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: that thirty eight rooms. This is either a giant party 465 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: or that's code for something right. That's very That's a 466 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: very good pointment. This also coincides with um that that 467 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: quote that Noel just read uh was on eighteen January, 468 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: the day before there was an assassination in Dubai. Nineteen January, 469 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: a man named Mahmoud al Mapo was assassinated. He was 470 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: wanted by the Israeli government for kidnapping, a murder of 471 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: two soldiers and eighty nine as well as purchasing arms 472 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: for Iran from Iran for use in Gaza. His assassination 473 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: got a lot of international attention, due in part to 474 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: the belief that it was ordered by the Israeli government 475 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: and carried out by Massad agents holding fake or stolen 476 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: passports from different European countries and Australia. There were twenty 477 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: six suspects. Uh. They were put on your Pool's most 478 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: wanted list because of the timeline of the comments and 479 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: because of the timeline of the assassination. Some investigators believe 480 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: that these are direct references right now, Yeah, and I 481 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: believe this. This occurrence, this assassination had a ton of 482 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: video related to it. Video in the hotel and the lobby, 483 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: like next to the rooms, video of people going in 484 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 1: and out of a room, and it was pretty high profile. 485 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: I remember when lively at the time I saw something. 486 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: It's been a while and I couldn't find anything on 487 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: it in searching again. But this this is really interesting 488 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: way it's lining up here at least with the dates 489 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: and some of this lingo. And then a person on 490 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: Reddit who an account which is now deleted, went through 491 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: and uh kind of compared these two like what happened 492 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: in real life then what happened on the site. And 493 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, there's all kinds of stuff in there. You 494 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: might want to check it out. What's the best way 495 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: for people to find this, ben if you go to 496 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: um the Reddit Bureau of Investigation, which was great. I 497 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: recommend those folks. Awesome subreddit if you go there, or 498 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: you can just search in your net for Lake City 499 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,719 Speaker 1: Quiet Pills and then assassination. Yeah, throw in reddite if 500 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: you want as a key word. They'll take you right there. 501 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: You might have to do some digging within these these posts, 502 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: but all this stuff exists out there for you to 503 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: kind of sink your teeth into and dig deeper. And 504 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: there's a thread I found where someone was really starting 505 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: to try to get serious about digging in and finding 506 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: some identities to associate with these folks. And one of 507 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: the responses is from a poster with the handle uh 508 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: Jason Lee with j A sn Lee uh, and the 509 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: response is quote, if you are serious about this, be careful. 510 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: As others have mentioned, for the whole thing could be 511 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: a hoax, But I don't believe this is a fifteen 512 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: year hoax for funzies. The point being be cautious. These 513 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: people don't seem to f around. Uh, use throwaway accounts 514 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: and secure VPNs, and then give some suggestions for good 515 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: VPNs to use. So yeah, I wouldn't want anybody slinging 516 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: Lake City Quiet Pills to run around my house or 517 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, around our office. That would be a little creepy. 518 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: And also also we want to say that this this 519 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: has been investigated or dug into by many people, including 520 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: the Thinking Sideways podcast that Nolan's mentioned, including numerous reditors 521 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: who did some great sleuthing. And you have to wonder 522 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: if there is a group of people who are listening 523 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: to shows like this, reading forums like the ones we 524 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: checked out for this episode. If you are there, if 525 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: you are listening, feel free to write to us. Yeah, 526 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: that'd be great. You're giving me a trepidacious look. No, no, 527 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 1: I am interested in this line of work, and it's 528 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: tough for me. You think about a changing career. No, No, 529 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: although you would have, you'd have to tell us that 530 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: you were considering it, though. Yeah, I can never go 531 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 1: back there. Um. So I have a hard time arguing 532 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: with that logic that Religion of Peace states in that 533 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: one that one little post he made that there are 534 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: messed up people in this world and sometimes the you know, 535 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: law can't reach them. The long arm of the law 536 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: isn't long enough, and sometimes they have to go. And 537 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, that's a tough thing to wrap your head around. 538 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: It's a tough thing for me to even stomach a 539 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: little bit but I feel like he might be right. 540 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: There might be a necessity for some kind of extra 541 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: judicial killing. I think is absolutely right. I mean, whether 542 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: or not it's philosophically right, the fact of the matter 543 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: is that this does occur. You know, we live in 544 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: an era and a time when we have to ask 545 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: ourselves an honest question of the species. Right. Are there 546 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: really more skeletons in the closets of the of you know, 547 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: the various nation states or is it just easier to 548 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: see into those closets. I don't think the number of 549 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: skeletons has necessarily changed. I think it's just easier for 550 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: people to learn about things like extraordinary rendition or black sites, 551 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: or assassinations carried out by other intelligence agencies if you 552 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 1: get into the murky world of real politic. Uh, this 553 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: is how the sausage is made, which is the first 554 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: time I've ever used that figure of speech. Well, you 555 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: folks out there, you want to send us some of 556 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: your sausage? Oh weird? Do you make sausage at your house? 557 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: Like I would genuinely be interested in trying your So 558 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to diffuse the diffuse the situation Ramsey 559 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: gave me thankfully of really awesome jar of Chipotle mustard 560 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: that exists in our refrigerator right now, and it would 561 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: go really well with any kind of you know what, 562 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: Polish sausage. If you want to tell us how your 563 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: sausage is made, you can send us stuff. We have 564 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: various ways you can do that. But before we list 565 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: off those ways, UM robotically, why don't we do a 566 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: little up shot at corners. Our first shout out today 567 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: comes from morgen Um and I'm I'm a massive fan 568 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 1: of this email. It starts off, Hey guys, agent liquid 569 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: Cupcake checking in. I think she's referring to, uh, the 570 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,919 Speaker 1: end of the episode on the Counterculture, where we said 571 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: we would give people nicknames nicknames. Choose your own nickname 572 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 1: secret name. This is great. UM, just wanted to drop 573 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: an angle on you that wasn't particularly covered in the 574 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,399 Speaker 1: Counterculture episode you just released. UM. Let me start by saying, 575 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: first off, that I am not some sort of nitrogen 576 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: based extra planner life form that lives outside of time 577 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: as it is understood in the set of dimensions, and 578 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: because of that, I was certainly not the same age 579 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: I am now, nor was I even alive during the 580 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties on Earth. Thank you for that um. Before 581 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: the rise of the counterculture, most people in the US 582 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: had a much more right leaning, independent and small government 583 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: mindset that made it hard for things like ARPA and 584 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: domestic spying to exist. The rise of left wing politics 585 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: and social programs as a result, created a normalization of 586 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: government intervention and everyday lives of citizens of the U S. This, 587 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: coupled with the constant security threat of proxy war with 588 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: the great enemy of the time, Russia, led to the 589 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: idea that defense spending and government secrecy it was not 590 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: only tolerable, but essential to daily life. This led eventually 591 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: to the current state of affairs in which the CIA 592 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: has near total access to what amounts to voluntary provided 593 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: social modeling and behavioral data. Just to reminder, time travel 594 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: is not real and I do not live forever. Have 595 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: a good day of which there are a finite number 596 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: for every person myself included. Well done, Liquid Cupcake, thank 597 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: you for writing to us. I really enjoyed that one too. 598 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: And that is an interesting angle when we go into 599 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: the ramifications or consequences of such a paradigm shift. You know, 600 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: like if we had described the kind of surveillance that 601 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: exists now to our grandparents generation or something. It would 602 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: it would sound insane. It's a dystopian dude, you guys. 603 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 1: I watched All the President's Men last night. You remember 604 00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: this movie Robert Redford. It's all about all about Watergate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 605 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: And one of the main things is that surveillance. And 606 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: they start to realize that, wait, they're surveilling all of us. 607 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a country where several very powerful 608 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: government agencies existed off the books for years, you know. 609 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: And this, of course this leads us to to think, like, 610 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: what else could be out there that we don't know about, 611 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: you know, but especially at a time when it was 612 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 1: completely not thought that that could happen, that perhaps an 613 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: executive branch could work directly with an intelligence agency and 614 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: collect data on as many people as possible. The next 615 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: one comes from Bonnie. She says, I'm a longtime listener. 616 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: I love the show. Bonnie, You're the best. She didn't 617 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: write that. You put that part in so true. You're 618 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: showing others how stuff works. Help me through my many long, 619 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: boring work days. Oh man, you guys know how those are. Okay. 620 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: So I was listening to your recent Nazi bel episode. 621 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: When you referenced the Kecksburg incident, however, you said Kecksburg, Kentucky, 622 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: but it's actually Kecksburg, Pennsylvania. Oops. Uh, that's our bad. 623 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm originally from western Pennsylvania, not far from Kecksburg, and 624 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: we would often call this backwoods part of the state 625 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: Pencil Tucky because of its similarity to Kentucky. As a 626 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: matter of fact, this part of the state has even 627 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: stood in for Kentucky. I'm assuming in film or in 628 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: media in some way the show Justified. Yes, here we 629 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: go answering my question. The show Justified was supposed to 630 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: take place in Kentucky, but some of the scenes were 631 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: actually filmed not far from Kecksburg, so your error was 632 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: rather amusing. Bonnie also gave us some really fun information 633 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: about reactor, a nuclear reactor, and all kinds of good 634 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: stuff in her email, But we're not gonna read the 635 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 1: whole thing. We're just gonna thank you Bonnie for writing 636 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: to us, and uh for correcting us. Yes, this is uh, 637 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: this is the most important part of the show. Thank 638 00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: you for keeping us honest, Bunny, and also teaching us 639 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: a little bit about Pencil Tucky, which I haven't. I 640 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: haven't visited yet, but I'm looking forward to traveling. Let's 641 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: make our last shout out here very very short and 642 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: sweet one. Uh, Keith G. You wrote in briefly and 643 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: you said, Hi, guys, love the show. I'm a longtime 644 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: listener from Gloucester, England. Can you please do me a 645 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: shout out? Thank you for the cool podcast. Cheers Keith. Keith, 646 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: you get straight to the point, is it, chief, Keith? 647 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: Is it k I E F It's k E e 648 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: f mm hmm. Okay, So shout out to you, Keith. 649 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: And this concludes our as well as our episode, but 650 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: not the show itself. Have no fear we will be back, unless, 651 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: of course, we take a dose of Lake City Quiet pills. 652 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: You can hear from us on Friday. In the meantime, 653 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: you can find us on Instagram, you can find us 654 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: on East Book. We're on Twitter. Uh. We're doing all 655 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: sorts of stuff. You can check out every episode that Noel, 656 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: Matt and I have ever done on our website Deep 657 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: Breath stuff they dot com and we have we have 658 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: a few announcements actually just as we throw this up. 659 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: So we have been gone from the world of YouTube 660 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: for a while, you guys, we've been doing some different things. Yes, 661 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: it's been too long. We shouldn't have left you without 662 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: a dope beat the Step two. But we have been 663 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: working behind the scenes, um, Noel, Matt and I very 664 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: closely on a new video that is out now. It 665 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: is live. You can watch it for free on Amazon 666 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: and we'll be posting this everywhere. You may recall we 667 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: did an audio episode about the Georgia Guidestones. This is 668 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: more in depth exploration that from the video angle, and 669 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: we have Matt as our behind the camera sorcerer uh 670 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: and we have Null giving an exclusive interview with stuff 671 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: about the Guide Stones that you're not gonna hear anywhere else. 672 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: It's not really exclusively here all the time, you guys 673 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: that you can ask me anything. So if you were 674 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: a fan of that episode, this is really going to 675 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 1: flesh out a lot of what we talked about, a 676 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: lot of what Noel said his story in relation to 677 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: the Guide Stones and to why it c Martin and 678 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,760 Speaker 1: is narrated by Ben. So you have those dulcet tones 679 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: coming through, riding all the way to the end. I 680 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: love it. It makes me happy having you in there. 681 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: And then Noel comes in, gives his interviews, and then 682 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: we get back to Ben. I feel like sometimes you 683 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 1: get a little puppet mastery. Wait wait oh, when I'm behind, 684 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: when I'm editing, I just you know, you called us 685 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: marionettes that one time. You're you're my little playthings that 686 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: I make move around on the TV. No puppet, okay, 687 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: puppet of Just a few more things about this this 688 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: video that exists all right, So it's on Amazon. You 689 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: can watch it for free. If you have Prime, you 690 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: can also watch it with commercials. If you don't have Prime, 691 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: and it's on Amazon dot com slash, I think you 692 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: just search in there for a video or Amazon Prime 693 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: video and you can click on and watch it there. 694 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: If you enjoyed the audio podcast, you're gonna love this 695 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: video because it really shows you the story that we 696 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: discussed on air. So take the time watch it. It's 697 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: about twenty minutes long. It's good, yeah, and that you're 698 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,439 Speaker 1: a perfectionist, So if you're saying it's good, then it's 699 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 1: really really worth the time. If you're feeling charitable or generous, 700 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: feel free to leave us a review. And our very 701 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: last thing, you guys, our show is sold out. Yeah, 702 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: the New York Show on April eight. You can't come 703 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: anymore unless you already have a ticket. That's mean, Matt. 704 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: You could probably still get scalped our tickets outside or 705 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: check out StubHub or something. You know how those things go. 706 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: You guys know, I like to sell I like to 707 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: scalp tickets on the side. Don't pay fifty dollars to 708 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 1: see us. I will only accept ben bucks actually, but uh, 709 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: never fear if you want to. If you want to 710 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: go to the show and you haven't been able to 711 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: get in but you're in New York, right to us, 712 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: because we are probably gonna put together some kind of 713 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: like hangout thing if you want to go grab a 714 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: beverage with us. Uh. We also have a few surprises 715 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,919 Speaker 1: in store for the for the Big Apple, so stay 716 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 1: tuned on that and in the meantime, if you have 717 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: suggestions for an upcoming topic, if you have cracked the 718 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: code of the Lake City Quiet Pills, if you are 719 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: indeed Dutch Milo returned from the dead, or if you 720 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: know him, yeah yeah angel to six maybe yeah, right 721 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: to us. Let us know what you think we are 722 00:45:46,480 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: conspiracy at how stuff works dot com.