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Speaker 2: Hey, this show does this and we have never really

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Speaker 4: There's just a room. There's just a room with like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a deal, but I've at Cressy's place

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Speaker 2: us so on this show. We've had players on, you

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Speaker 3: And that's about it.

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Speaker 5: First of all, I mean so much props for you

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Speaker 3: Way, Adam. Two things.

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Speaker 5: First of all, we always talk about spring training and

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Speaker 3: Of your hand, how he's feeling, and then we go

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Speaker 5: So do you think that your effectiveness or non effectiveness

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Speaker 1: I think there's a combination effectors. I think, for one thing,

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't I didn't have a relationship with

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Speaker 3: That's that's a great answer, all right.

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Speaker 5: Last thing for me, now that you're a free agent again,

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Speaker 5: You have to wait your seven days, ten days, whatever

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Speaker 5: I mean, I know you're keeping in shave and ready

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Speaker 5: to you and say, hey, you know, Adam, we want

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think there are allowed to talk to

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Speaker 1: But you know, like it's a unique situation, and like,

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Speaker 3: And that's just the.

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Speaker 3: On that and we all know that.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, just keeping my options open. I was taught

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Speaker 4: I saw the thing on Twitter that Junele put up.

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Speaker 4: You faced the reporter June Lee, does he have a

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Speaker 3: Jude's Jude's my guy. You know, great guy.

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Speaker 1: I've been friends for a while now, and it was

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Speaker 1: kind of, you know, show the balance of things, like, yes,

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 4: We've been we've been taught. Yeah, I know, I struck

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Speaker 4: you get like a new bat or something from a

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Speaker 4: you ruined my career era because when we were in Toronto,

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Speaker 4: well it was a COVID season, so we were in Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: I didn't have a glove because the because the dugout

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Speaker 4: so I blame my career era on you.

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Speaker 3: That's fair. That's fair. I mean, listen, I give up

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Speaker 1: It out in Buffalo in twenty twenty, so I had

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Speaker 1: bad juju all around for you to use my glove

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Speaker 1: there that that. I don't know what we were thinking there.

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Speaker 1: We should have we should have sent you maybe you

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Speaker 4: Somebody somebody's I get it. I appreciate, but I appreciate

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Speaker 2: Adam, thank you so much for doing this. Obviously it

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Speaker 2: means a lot. You know, if you connect with one

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Speaker 2: keep us posted. We're rooting for you to latch back

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, yeah, I appreciate you guys. Thanks, thank you,