1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Ron and Nanian The Car Doctor, nationally 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: recognized auto expert trusted by Mechanics, Weekend wrenchers and vehicle 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: owners alike. Ron brings over forty years of hands on 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: experience and deep industry insight to help you understand your vehicle. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Join The Conversation live every Saturday from two to four 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: pm Eastern by calling eight five to five five six 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. That's eight five to five 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: five six zero ninety nine hundred, your direct line to 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: honest answers and practical advice. Looking for more, visit cardoctorshow 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: dot com for past episodes, repair tips, and Ron's latest insights, 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: and be sure to subscribe to the Car Doctor YouTube 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: channel for exclusive videos, real repair footage and more. Now 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: start your enginies. The Car Doctor is in the garage 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: and ready to take your call. 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm both baby, so they let me out 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: of the shop. This week, we're very busy in the 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: show this week. It was a three day work week. 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: You know, Labor day was Monday Friday. We first Friday. 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: We're always closed on First Friday, So Danny and I 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: had three days to get five days worth of cars done. 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: And we just rolled baby. We came in a little early, 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: we stayed a little late, except that on Wednesday and Thursday. 23 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: To add to this, I won't say misery, but to 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: add to this excitement, we had class in Edison this week, Edison, 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: New Jersey. We went down to the Hilton and spend 26 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: four hours each night with Chris Lewis and the guys 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: from Automotive Training Group ATG and a bunch of shops 28 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: from around the area mechanics shop owners, et CETERA great 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 2: class on cylinder misfire contribution and diagnosis. Second time through 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: the class, I liked it so much I took it again. 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: I took Danny for his first time. And sometimes when 32 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: you go to class, you learn content right, you learn 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: what the subject matter is, and then sometimes you learn 34 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: a lot more. And I can honestly say for me 35 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: it was both, and it usually is about halfway through 36 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: the class, at the at the break, at the pause, 37 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: we took a coffee break around eight thirty eight fifteen, 38 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: two of the fellas came up to me, you know, 39 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 2: and Hey, I just wanted to shake your hand and 40 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: say thank you. I appreciate all that you do. You know, 41 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: you've helped me out in the shop a couple of 42 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: times listening to the show, and you know, they kind 43 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: of figured out who he says, I figured out who 44 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: you were by your voice, because obviously, you know, the 45 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: face is a secret. It's kind of a weird deal, right, 46 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: It's been going on that way for a long time, 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 2: thirty something years here on radio. But when you get 48 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: when you get pegged out, it just you know, it 49 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: wasn't what he it wasn't how he said. It was 50 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: what he said. It was that I've helped him, and 51 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: that's that's what this show is about. And we had 52 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: a great conversation after that, you know, the ice was broken, 53 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 2: and then everybody seemed to, you know, interact more and 54 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: there was a greater conversation. And one of the things 55 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: Chris brought up during the course of talking about cylinder 56 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: missfire and diagnosis is the need for maintenance and why 57 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: automotive maintenance is so important. And he knows how I am. 58 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: Chris used to work for me, full disclosure, right, Chris 59 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: and I've been together thirty years off and on, his employer, 60 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: employee and so on. And his conversation to the other 61 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: guys in the room, he picked out two guys from 62 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: another shop, and he said, how many timing chains do 63 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: you do in the course of a week or a month? 64 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: And they said probably two or three every week. And 65 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 2: you know how many catalytic converters, and oh, probably four 66 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: or five and so on, and all the major engine repairs, 67 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: valve jobs, cylinder heads, engine replacement. And then he turned 68 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: to me and he said, Ron, how many timing chains 69 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: have you done in the shop? And I said, lately none? 70 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: And you know how many catalytic converters. I think I 71 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: probably did two this year. They just don't go bad 72 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: for me. And you know, there's something about the Aaron Waldock, 73 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: New Jersey, I guess. And the truth is that I 74 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: tend to do maintenance, and I do I do. I 75 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: do maintenance. If it's wet, I think about changing in it, 76 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: what mileage, And if it's a consumer driving the car 77 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: a little harder, I'll recommend a more frequent service schedule. 78 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: And that's just so gosh darn important. And you know, 79 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: you have to look at what the manufacturer recommends, and 80 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 2: that's a guideline. And you also have to know that 81 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: when you look at an owner's manual, all right, when 82 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: you look at an owner's manual or better yet, when 83 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: you look in the black binder that they always give 84 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: you when you buy a vehicle, there'll be a recommended 85 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: service schedule. You've got to know. Now, some of it 86 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: might be an over cell, because some of it might 87 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: be the dealer whoever, that might be a used car, 88 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 2: new car, whatever, coming up with their own service schedule 89 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: of recommended maintenance. But the one you at least want 90 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: to pay very close attention to is the one that 91 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: is in the factory printed owner's manual. And they will 92 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: tell you service intervals for maintenance and when to change 93 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: fluids and when to do filters. And you should be 94 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: looking at that. You should be thinking about, you know, 95 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: if it's wet, change it it's such and such a mileage. 96 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: I still stand behind my statement that I've taken heat 97 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: for over the years and oil change is the single 98 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: most critical piece of maintenance you can do to a vehicle. 99 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: All Right, you want to put ten thousand mile oil 100 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: in the car and change it at ten thousand miles, 101 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: that's your call. I'll put ten thousand mile oil in 102 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: the car and change it at six. Because of the 103 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: additive package and the quality of that oil is that 104 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: much better, I'll put a high mileage filter on it, 105 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: and I'll still change it between five and six thousand miles. 106 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: Because the other thing you have to think about, and 107 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: if you notice too, how many of today's cars are 108 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: all turbocharge and those engines are working harder and harder. 109 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: But the thing you also have to think about is 110 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: that vehicle ages, what other fluids are critical under the hood, 111 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 2: not to ignore and just think only about oil changes. 112 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: Oil changes are a great piece of maintenance. I started 113 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: this conversation there, but I'm also going to point out 114 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: that it's a great place to catch up on some 115 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: of the other things and to look at fluid condition. 116 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: And you know, if a trained mechanic, a real mechanic, 117 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: not a goofball, is working on the car, you know 118 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: they're gonna look at tire condition. They're gonna wiggle the 119 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: front end, They're gonna take a quick peak at breaks. 120 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: They're gonna look for something hanging off, broke and rusted, 121 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: about the break, about the fall off, and try and 122 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: do their best to keep you safe and keep that 123 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: car reliable. How many times we lift the hood of 124 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: a car and we see a battery that's seven or 125 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: eight years old, or we see a vehicle inspection sticker 126 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: that's a year out or four months out or five 127 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: months out, but it's overdue in any respect. Maintenance is 128 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: the key, you know why I order repair is so expensive. 129 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: And this is really probably the one thing if you 130 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: take away from my opening conversation with you today, this 131 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: is probably the one thing to remember. Auto repair is 132 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: expensive because you're not doing maintenance. And it's the truth 133 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 2: because when you average out what it costs to maintain 134 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 2: a vehicle against im chains, catalytic converters, cylinder heads, major 135 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: engine work, transmission over holes, maintenance comes out cheaper and 136 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: it's easier on you. It's easier, it's a more you know, 137 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: budget friendly timely. It's not a chunk every so often. 138 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: It's spread out over time. Now there's ways to avoid maintenance, 139 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: and I think there's cars that you know, maybe you're 140 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: going to do a minimal amount of maintenance. We had 141 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: a twenty fifteen Dodge charger in the shop this week. 142 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: First time I saw the car, first time customer Darren 143 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: came in. He had a check engine light on, had 144 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: a P zero one twenty eight. I walked him through 145 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: initially because there's a check engine light on, I've got 146 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: to go through my diagnostic routine. But with a P 147 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: zero one to twenty eight and a Chrysler product, it's 148 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: about a fifteen minute diagnosis just to check a couple 149 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: of things. And then you're putting a thermostat in that 150 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: car ninety percent of the time and so far ninety 151 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: five percent of the time, that fixes it. And we 152 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: did that. We did an oil change, and we fixed 153 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: as washer nozzles and wiper blades. But I can tell 154 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: by looking at this car it never had anything else done. 155 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: It had it had like a minimal amount of maintenance. 156 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: There were repairs because things had broken over the previous 157 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: ten years, but it wasn't It wasn't that driveline fluids 158 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: were changed, transmission fluid was never changed. Coolant was original 159 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: at ten years old, which it can be because it's 160 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: ten year, one hundred and fifty thousand mile coolant. But 161 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: to my point, the vehicle's now ten years old, said 162 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: zero maintenance other than oil changes and maybe whatever fell 163 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: off it during the course of that ten year life cycle. 164 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: Do you start to follow manufacturers recommended maintenance at this point, 165 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you've got a freak there. You've got a 166 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: vehicle that got to eighty five thousand miles with minimal maintenance. 167 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: Is now the moment? Is now the time you're going 168 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: to try and convince yourself to start doing fluid filters 169 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 2: and other services so that you want to get to 170 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: two hundred thousand miles. Probably not, but not every vehicle 171 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 2: is going to be like Darren's. Not every vehicle is 172 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: going to get to that eighty five thousand mile mark 173 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: with minimal maintenance. And I had a great conversation with 174 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 2: Darren and I explained it to them, and I think 175 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: that's the other problem. Nobody. It seems like nobody really 176 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: gets a great explanation, or a lot of times you 177 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: don't get great explanations. Maybe I think every mechanic's like me. 178 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 2: They like to talk, they like to explain things. They 179 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 2: like to be, you know, very direct. But I'm guessing not. 180 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: And Darren said, nobody ever talked to me about this 181 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: kind of stuff before. He says, I would take it in. 182 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: They would say, ah, we looked it over, and I'm like, 183 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what they looked at the left ear break, 184 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: the rotor was so bright, you know, you could tell 185 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: you look at the left ear brake rotor it was 186 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 2: it had that hot iron look to it. You could 187 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: see that the rust had oxided because the brake was 188 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: dragging and the right rear brake was getting close in 189 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: the inside face of the rotors were all rust pitted 190 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: and starting to rot. Front brakes weren't much better. You 191 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 2: could see. In the course of the next twelve to 192 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 2: eighteen months, between tires, brakes, fluids, some of the other 193 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: things that I saw, you were going to probably spend 194 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: between five and six grand on this car. Is now 195 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: the moment? Is now the moment to tell the seventy 196 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 2: eight year old man, hey, stop smoking cigarettes. You'll live longer, 197 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: you know, just to get to eighty three. Maintenance is key. 198 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: It's something you've got to decide. It's an internal thought process. 199 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: I think what you do and who does it is 200 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: just as in critical, is just as critical as what 201 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: kind of vehicle are you driving? But I will tell 202 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: you this and I'll leave it here before we go 203 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: to the pause. You've also got to decide are you 204 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: buying the car. If you buy the car, you maintain it. 205 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: If you lease the car, you know, if the manual 206 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 2: says ten thousand miles. Do ten if the manual says, 207 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: you know, never do spark plugs. Never do spark plugs. 208 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: If you're leasing the car and you've got no intention 209 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: of owning that vehicle, you just follow owner's manual recommended maintenance, 210 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: not what the dealer says, because what the dealer's saying 211 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: might be more than what the manufacturer requires, unless your 212 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: lease agreement says you've got to follow this. And that's 213 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: a whole separate conversation onto itself to another thing that 214 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: makes auto repair expensive. Eight five five five six oh 215 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: nine nine zero zero. I'm running eney in the car. Doctor. 216 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away. Hey, 217 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: let's oh, you know what, let's hear from Tom? 218 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Actually I have a comment on the way 219 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 3: you open the show. 220 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 2: Okay. 221 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: Had to take my car in yesterday for state inspection 222 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: here in New York. And what I usually do is 223 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: I usually throw them a little bone and do the 224 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: oil change whatever in the car, and you know, rather 225 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 3: than bring it down to you. And I'm talking to 226 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 3: the service rider who's a different service rider than I 227 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 3: normally take, who I normally deal with, and he starts 228 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: trying to sell me on their synthetic blend and telling me, oh, 229 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 3: you only have thirty five hundred miles on the. 230 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 4: Oil on this car. 231 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 3: And I looked at him and the other service rider 232 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: I deal usually deal with his sitting there and start 233 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: snickering because he knew what was coming. 234 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 4: And I said, my. 235 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 3: Last car went to four hundred thousand miles. I didn't 236 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: do that by changing the oil any greater than five 237 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: thousand miles and by putting anything but a full synthetic 238 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 3: in to it and not the synthetic blend. I said, so, 239 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: could you please give me what I wanted? 240 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: Well, and you know, Tom, it's it's it's got to 241 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: be a cost per mile question. When I was when 242 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: I was talking to Darren, we'll go back to where 243 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 2: we started. Right when I was talking to Darren, the 244 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: customer with a fifteen charger, we figured it out that 245 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: he had spent about He thinks he spent five to 246 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: six thousand dollars in the previous eight years. So I 247 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: did the math, divided that out. He spent seventy one 248 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: dollars and forty two cents a month after buying the 249 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: car over the previous eight years of ownership because he 250 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: bought the car used with two years on it. So 251 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: as I said to him, you know, but you're you're 252 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: at that point, You're at eighty five thousand miles. It's 253 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: going to be coming due for a ninety k service, 254 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: it's going to be coming due for spark plays. You've 255 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: got to take the intake blent them off you. You know, 256 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: as you approach that magic hundred thousand mile mark, if 257 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: you want to see two hundred thousand miles out of it, 258 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 2: you've got to spend some money or you're going to 259 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 2: be changing components or vehicle. And you know, the point 260 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: of the whole opening conversation. And I appreciate your comment Tom, 261 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: as always, I love I love the way you break 262 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: it out is if you're gonna go the distance, you've 263 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: got to start when the vehicle is new. As my 264 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: grandfather said to my uncle Steve when he was seventy eight, 265 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna stop smoking because I want to 266 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: live longer. He lived to be eighty two. You know, 267 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: Grandpa came over from the Old Country, he came over 268 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: from Armenia. He was smoking hand rolled cigarettes with no 269 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: filter for the better part of you know sixty five years. 270 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: I think probably what killed him was he stopped smoking. 271 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: But you know, it's like when do you you know, 272 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: when do you start to make the change? And I 273 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's maintenance is the key. Maintenance is 274 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: what it's all about. As always, Let's let's get back 275 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 2: to what we do best. Let's go to Mark in 276 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Let's roll the dice. Ha ha, what a pun? 277 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: So what's going on? Mark? 278 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 5: Hi? Ron? Hey, I'm the perfect caller to have after 279 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 5: all this talk about maintenance because I've got an eight 280 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 5: honto CRV that I've owned since new and I have 281 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 5: been meticulous about maintenance. I used to take it to 282 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 5: a quick lube to get an oil change, but I 283 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 5: think after listening to you ten or fifteen years ago, 284 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 5: I started actually doing my own oil changes with full synthetic. Anyway, 285 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 5: I got two hundred and forty one thousand miles on 286 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 5: this car, and I've never had a check engine, like 287 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 5: come on, never. But my question is to you, because 288 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 5: now it's getting up in mileage and I'm getting a 289 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 5: little hesitant about taking it on long trips out of 290 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 5: town because of the mileage. I'm kind of looking for 291 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 5: some guidance from you, because I know within the next 292 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 5: probably year or two, I'm probably going to get another vehicle. 293 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 5: They're going to need to get another vehicle. But the 294 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 5: thing that I'm conflicted about is this car has been 295 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 5: such a great car. It's got pretty much basics in it, 296 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 5: and that's kind of what I wanted when I bought it, 297 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 5: not a lot of fancy stuff, you know, no CVT transmission, 298 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 5: no turbo, And it seems like everything nowadays is got 299 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 5: the turbo and the CBT. What what is out there? 300 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 5: And I don't really want to buy a new car 301 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 5: because I don't want to spend more on a new 302 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 5: car that I spent from my. 303 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: First house right right. And what you're driving, you know, 304 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: what you're driving, Mark, is what I affectionately call a brick, 305 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,479 Speaker 2: right Yeah, it's it's it's red, it's square, it's reliable, 306 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: it's solid. It just it just goes. So the first 307 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: thing I'm going to tell you is the next time 308 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: you're going out of town, rent a car. Don't take 309 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: that car, all right, Rent something you think you're gonna 310 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: want to buy, and start to play that game and 311 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: see if you like the technology, see if you like 312 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: the bells and whistles, see if anything there, you know. 313 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: And the only reason I said is because I've learned. 314 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: I've learned to, you know, I was I was never 315 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: a fan of backup cameras, right, And I probably was 316 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: never a fan of backup cameras because I got that 317 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: from Uncle Steve. Uncle Steve always said the most important 318 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: part of a fighter pilot was his neck, because you 319 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: got to learn to look around and see what's around you. 320 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: And I never forgot that. And I always did that, 321 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: you know, driving you're always looking around. And then one 322 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: day I got a backup camera in a vehicle and 323 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: I went, you know, maybe Uncle Steve would have had 324 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: more fun if he had a backup camera. He could 325 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: have seen what was coming up behind him. But neither 326 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: here nor there, you know, Just go rent the car, 327 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 2: Go go rent. 328 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 5: They have to do. I probably don't even have to 329 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 5: do that because my wife's car is at twenty twenty 330 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 5: four and it's like driving. 331 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: A jet, right. 332 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 5: She's got so much stuff in this car. And some 333 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 5: of the features I like, you know, I like the 334 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 5: adaptive cruise control. I like being able to come up 335 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 5: to a stop and take my foot off the break 336 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 5: but there's so many other things. And my car didn't 337 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 5: even come with a backup camera. I actually had to 338 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 5: put one in after market. Oh, so there are some features, 339 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 5: right I like I would like? Right? 340 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say, yeah, there are some features 341 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: that you would like. So it sort of comes back to, 342 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: you know, do you want to make the trade off 343 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: and are you ready to let it go. I'll tell 344 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 2: you what, Mark, Sit tight. When we come back, we'll 345 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 2: finish up and we'll talk about what you may want 346 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: to go by, or maybe you want to hang on 347 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: to this, and there's ways to do that too. I'm 348 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: Ron an eighty in the car doctor eight five five 349 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: five six zero nine nine zero zero. I'll be back 350 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 2: right after this. Don't go away. Let's go back to 351 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: Mark in Las Vegas. Mark, you're still there, sir. 352 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 5: Yes, I am Ron. 353 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: So you know, there's a couple of thoughts that go 354 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: through my head when I we're talking about changing from 355 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: what's now a fifteen year old vehicle, seventeen year old vehicle, 356 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 2: seventeen year old vehicle, and to maybe a twenty one 357 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: or a twenty two. So let's say there's a fifteen 358 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: year spread in technology, right, right, Okay, I like the 359 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 2: CRV all right, to stay with what you're driving, like 360 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: Kahanda CRV nice car. I like the Toyota Raft for 361 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: nice car, right, Yeah, that I'm gonna I'd go look 362 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: at a Chevy Blazer. They've made the Blazer smaller, it's 363 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 2: a little more compact, it's got some zip to it. 364 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: To tell you the truth, I was looking at a 365 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: Blazer SS for myself a couple of months ago because 366 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: I was having my g maybe I want to drive 367 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: something different for a while conversation in my head. And 368 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: I looked at one of those. I like that vehicle. 369 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: And I still like the Ford Escape. I still think 370 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 2: that is a solid vehicle. I really do. 371 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 5: And don't They have a lot of turbos though, in 372 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 5: the all. 373 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: Of them, but all of them have turbos. 374 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 5: I I'm kind of like you, Yeah, I like you. 375 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 5: I think they're trying to use a turbo to squeeze 376 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 5: out every little bunch of mileage. Ye, and it just 377 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 5: seems like it's overworking these engines. 378 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: Well it is. But the problem is the problem is 379 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 2: we're not We're not going to get away from it 380 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: anything in the last seven years. Chance it's bizarre. It's turboat. 381 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: It's hard to find something more turbot or CVT. 382 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 5: What about I guess hybrid is not out of the 383 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 5: question then for me, right. 384 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: But you know, now you're diving a little deeper into 385 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: more technology. 386 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 5: And that's you know, and I neglected to tell you this. 387 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 5: I have done everything on my car. The only time 388 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 5: I've ever taken it in to a dealership is to 389 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 5: get the airbags done. So I love working on my 390 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 5: own car. I absolutely love. 391 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: It now though now the other side of that, but 392 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 2: the other side of that conversation, Mark is keep the CRV, 393 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: keep it well. 394 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 5: I'd thought about that. I thought about if something happens 395 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 5: to slap a new engine and training. 396 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: In it, right, and you know, if you have a 397 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: trans in that car and it's five grand, and if 398 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: you had to put an engine in that car and 399 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: it's five grand, there's ten grand, and then at least 400 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: you know what you got. 401 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 5: I think I right now, it's fifty to fifty. I 402 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 5: think I'd rather do that than go out and buy 403 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 5: something that I can't work on that's going to cost 404 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 5: me thirty grand. 405 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: I read I read something the other day and I 406 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: you know, you see things on the Internet, and I 407 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: couldn't verify it by a news source, but I think 408 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 2: this came out said it was Fox News, and it's 409 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: said that the EPA is rolling back a missions requirements 410 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: or something about the EPA is not going to be 411 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: mandating a missions requirements in nineteen states or something, and 412 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: it sounded like under the current administration, we're going to be, 413 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: you know, lightening up on a mission requirements something to 414 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 2: that effect. And it made me stop and say, does 415 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: that mean we're going to lighten up on the mandates 416 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: for CVTs, turbos, evs? You know, are we going to 417 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 2: change what's out there as far as a vehicle? And 418 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: I've got to do some further research for it. And 419 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: I guess my point is, if I'm thinking about buying 420 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: a vehicle and I'm not desperate, maybe I want to 421 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: wait two years. Maybe I want to see what what 422 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: what the change in the political climate, what effect that's 423 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 2: going to have on the automobile. I do know I 424 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 2: have seen Chrysler, for example, Chrysler, if you've been reading 425 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 2: about it, is bringing back the V eight. HEMI GM 426 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: just GM just invested a pile of money in a 427 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 2: new V eight engine plant in upstate New York. They 428 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 2: did that about three months ago. So I don't know 429 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 2: that America's love affair with the V eight is over. 430 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: I don't know that everything is going to be turbo 431 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: chargers going forward and mandated. I did read it was 432 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: interesting too. There was an article I've got it here 433 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: somewhere that Jay Leno had proposed in California that you know, 434 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: they wanted to do away with motor vehicle inspection on 435 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: older classic cars. California said, no, we're not, We're not 436 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 2: enacting that law. But I understand that that battle is 437 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: going back to the drawing board again. So we're we're 438 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, are we developing a different stance on 439 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: emissions and emissions requirements and because it becomes an expel. 440 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 5: You know, I do want a car with d mileage. 441 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 5: I mean, I think I'm getting like twenty four miles 442 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 5: to the gallon. I'm not a hot rodder, right, I 443 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 5: just want good, good, basic transportation, something that I can 444 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 5: work on. And I'll still probably change the oil myself, 445 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 5: because I don't dress too any of these little Jay. 446 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 2: Places, you know, mark changing the oil and then I've 447 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 2: got to go on changing the oil is a critical 448 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: thing that you can and should do. It kind of 449 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: keeps you in touch with the vehicle because that's the 450 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: way you're built, brother, right, But anything newer you you, 451 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: all right, not because of your desire, but you because 452 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: of the cost and the tooling required and the training required. 453 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: You'll be able to do maintenance on some of the 454 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: newer cars, not all of them, but you're going to 455 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: be limited. So it's gonna also be an issue where 456 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 2: you need to develop a relationship with a local mechanic 457 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: and you know, mak him the go to guy, or 458 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to move to New Jersey. It's it's 459 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: it's one of the two, all right. So it's the 460 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: best answer I got for you. Drive something newer. Drive 461 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: a few newer vehicles, like I said, Mark, see what 462 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: you think of those, and if they don't float your boat, 463 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: maybe it's hanging on to the CRV for the short 464 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: term future and see where the world takes us. I 465 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: appreciate the call. As always. Let's go over to Mike 466 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: and California fourteen BMW. Mike, Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 467 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: What's going on? 468 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 6: Yeah? Thanks, Ron say, I've got a twenty fourteen BMW 469 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 6: X five that I bought from a friend of mine, 470 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 6: and it came with run flat tires and no spare, right, 471 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 6: and I'm getting to the point where I need to 472 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 6: get new tires, and I'm wondering if I should get 473 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 6: a compact spare and put it in there and get 474 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 6: regular tires, or go with run flat again. 475 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: No, go with run flat again. It's just going to 476 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: be unless somebody's got it figured out that you can 477 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: get a standard tire that won't affect wheel speed because 478 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: you don't want to affect critical engine functions, break functions, 479 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: things like that. And then where would the spare go. 480 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 2: Is they're room in the car somewhere for even a compact. 481 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a space for a compact. It was an 482 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 6: option or maybe standard when the car was new, But 483 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 6: somewhere along the line somebody put run flat tires or 484 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 6: maybe it came that way new. 485 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 2: It probably came it probably came that way new. So 486 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: the only the only way I would tell you that 487 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: it's okay to make the switches. What is the replacement 488 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 2: tires rolling diameter going to be in Is it equal 489 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: to a factory setting such that if it's different than 490 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: the run flat, you can go and have it programmed 491 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 2: that I used to have this size tire on it. 492 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 2: Now I've got this, and I would just be mindful 493 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: of that because it may you know, changing the diameter 494 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: may affect spinometer, may affect you know, traction control, anti 495 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: lock brakes and so forth. 496 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 4: You know. 497 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 2: For the record, I'm not a fan of run flats though. 498 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 2: I it's believe me, this is not run flats have 499 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: their place, but I see far too many people stuck 500 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: on the side of the road. You're driving down the interstate. 501 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: If you get a nail in the tire, great, If 502 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: a block lock of wood goes through the sidewall, you're 503 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: stuck on the side of the road and there's there's 504 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: there's nothing you're going to do about it. So it's 505 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: it's you know, and the irony here is you realize 506 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: where run flats came from, right, No, The story goes 507 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: that run flats were created because outside the BMW factory 508 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: in Germany, thieves used to lay down nail strips, and 509 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: as the new BMW's were coming out for road testing, 510 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 2: they would lay down nail strips. The car would get 511 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: a flat, the owner would jump in the car and 512 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: get out of the car to go look at the flat, 513 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 2: and somebody would jump in the car and steal it 514 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: and drive away on flat tires. You know. So there's 515 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: and BMW said we can't have this. And BMW is 516 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: one of the co creators or the creator of run 517 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: flat tires. That's the story I always heard. You know, 518 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's out there. So but I think 519 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: if diameter is the same and you do have room 520 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 2: for a spare, and you you can get a jack 521 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 2: and you're driving a distance, this is not going to 522 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 2: be a cheap conversion though, and you've got to consider 523 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: that toe But nothing on a BMW is cheap at 524 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 2: this point, right right, right? 525 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 6: No, I just I've never had run flats and I 526 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 6: didn't know if they have a checkered pasted or if 527 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 6: they're a viable way to go or for what the 528 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 6: story is. 529 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: If someone is buying a new vehicle and the choices 530 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 2: yes or no, and they can get away without it, 531 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: I always I prefer no, I'll leave it there. How's 532 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: that for an answer. They're okay, they have their place, 533 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: But like I said, you're on the highway. If you 534 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: get more than a nail through the sidewalk. If that 535 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: side wall is damaged, you're stuck on the side of 536 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: the road waiting for a toe. 537 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 6: All right, kitt got your opinion and that's helpful. 538 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, You're very welcome. You'd be well. Ay 539 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 2: five five, five six zero nine nine zero zero running 540 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 2: any of the car. Doctor. I'm back right after this. Hey, 541 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: let's go over and talk to Kevin in Massachusetts. Kevin, 542 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 2: what's going on? Seventy two? Dodgs Darty? 543 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 4: Hey, Ron, how you doing? All right? 544 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: Man? 545 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 4: I just picked up a car. It's it's a neat 546 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 4: little car and a couple of questions. It has a 547 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 4: Holly Sniper fuel injected on it. Okay, I don't. I 548 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 4: don't have the control pad that comes with it. Do 549 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 4: I need it? And can I replace it? 550 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: Do you know that the controlled pad? 551 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 4: Are you talking? 552 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 2: Are you talking about the module that runs the injection. 553 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 4: Like that when you're setting it up? I guess it 554 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 4: has like a handheld thing. 555 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 2: Right, the tuner? 556 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 4: Right? 557 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, how are you going to tune it in 558 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 2: the future? 559 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 4: Well, that's I'm saying, yeah, So can I Can I 560 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: just buy the control pad or. 561 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: That that's a Holly question, brother, and you know, and 562 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to say it like this, 563 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: and all my experience in dealing with the performance after market, 564 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: the quality of the program or the part or the 565 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 2: component of whatever you're talking to someone about is really 566 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: restricted to or enhanced by how intelligent or nice that 567 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 2: person is that you're talking to. 568 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:56,959 Speaker 6: Right. 569 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: You know, I've spoken to a few people at different 570 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: performance applications over the years, and some of them treat 571 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 2: me like I'm a complete idiot, and some of them 572 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: are very nice and accommodating. And I'm not saying I'm 573 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: expecting special treatment. I'm just saying I go in, I 574 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 2: ask some very general, generic questions, sometimes specific, and you know, 575 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: I don't always get the answer I'm looking for. It 576 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 2: kind of makes you a sour on talking to these people. 577 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: So I guess man manage your expectations when you when 578 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 2: you get in there, Kevin. 579 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 4: I have a quick second question about assault converters and transcoolers. Okay, 580 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 4: I'm gonna put a train. It doesn't have a transplorer 581 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 4: on it, now, I'm gonna put one on it. If 582 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 4: I don't use the radiator and just use the transport 583 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 4: to cool it, do I leave the radiator empty when 584 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 4: I disconnect the lines off it. 585 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: So tell me what, tell me, tell me what we're 586 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: building here, because obviously this is not this is not 587 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: mom's grocery getter. 588 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 4: All right, No, it's a it's a four O waight 589 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 4: stroker in it. 590 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: Okay, we go and racing. We're driving it on the street. 591 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 4: Well, I'm hoping to be driving it down the street. 592 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: Okay. And how I have a stole speed converter A 593 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: you're going to put in it? 594 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 4: Well, there's it's already all together. I just picked it up. 595 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 4: It's got a thirty five hundred in it all reason, 596 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure. Yeah, And it's it's kind of a 597 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 4: big camin right now. It's running hot. So I want 598 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 4: to get the trans coooler taking it because that's all 599 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 4: it's converter is going to produce a lot of heat, 600 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 4: sure is now, So I want to separate it out 601 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 4: of the system. 602 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: If again, has the engine been dinode? 603 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 4: Yes? 604 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: So you know where the power band comes in. 605 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 4: I don't have the results. I just know what it 606 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 4: made from power. 607 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: So and you know and where that power band comes 608 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: in in terms of where it starts to make power 609 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: is just as important as how much power it makes. 610 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 4: Right, Well, that's the the guy that put it, that 611 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 4: bought it from said, that's why it had to thirty 612 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 4: five hundred in that's where it was, you know, with 613 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 4: the Dino, that's where it needed to be or something. 614 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: And I get it. Listen, I drove a forty eight 615 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: hundred stole speed converter on the street and a power 616 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: glide with black one and it was crazy. Uh you know, 617 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: and for the record, I can never get that car 618 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: to run cool. It was marginal at best on good days. 619 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: So you know, you may get tired of that. And 620 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: that's why I say that thirty five hundred stall speed converter, 621 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: you may put something a little less with a with 622 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: a lower stall speed in it so that you've got 623 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: better hook up, because you may find the extra two 624 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: tents that you're going to pick up on the streets 625 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: not worth the temperature band that you're going to run in. 626 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 4: I think I'm going to be fighting a cam at 627 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 4: that point too. 628 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: Well, right, so, and that's why that's why I ask, 629 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: where's the power band? You know, I'll leave it here 630 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: because I'm going to run out of time. But and 631 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: I like what you're doing. Do the separate trans cooler 632 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: and play with it. You'll find playing with spark plug 633 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: heat range has an effect. Quality of fuel has an effect. 634 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 4: Obviously that radiator empty though the bottom when I take 635 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 4: the lines of it, What. 636 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: Do you mean the trans cooler where the trans fluid 637 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: would be. Yeah, yeah, I mean just put just put 638 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 2: some pipe plugs in there, just to clean up the look, right, 639 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: it's not gonna it's not gonna hurt anything. 640 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 4: But I didn't know if I should leave the trans 641 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 4: fluid in there or just leave it empty. 642 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 2: You could take it out. It's not gonna matter. There's 643 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 2: there's gonna be nothing there, right, it's just going to 644 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: be an empty It's just going to be an empty tubing. 645 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: So but you know, leave it, leave it here. You 646 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: may want to put an electric cooling fan on it, 647 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: you know, I'll leave you with the immortal words of 648 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: my first first boss. 649 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 4: A little bit got too. It's got too cooling fans 650 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 4: on now, it's too electrics on it. 651 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: Now, right, as long as you have a hot override 652 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: in there, all right, just so you can flip it 653 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 2: on when you want. But remember this on the street, 654 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: mild goes wild, so if you're having problems, detune it 655 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: a little bit and you may find you solve your 656 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: problem without realizing it. So good luck to you. Give 657 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: us an update report in six months, Kevin, and I 658 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: hope it works out for you. Eight five five five 659 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: six zero nine nine zero zero running any of the 660 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: Car Doctor coming back right after this. Wow, that was 661 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: a quick hour. Let's do a quick piece of email. 662 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: This comes to us from Katie in Wanaque, New Jersey. 663 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: Dear Car Doctor, listened to the show all the time. 664 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: I consider myself a younger person. I'm in my late thirties. 665 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: I'm happy to have you board, Kate, and I find 666 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: it fascinating the way you talk about cars, and you're 667 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: getting me excited about being part of a car carrying community. 668 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: Look at that. I appeal to the younger audience, and 669 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: I thought I was old. My question today is about 670 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: washer fluid. I recently ran out of blue washer fluid 671 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: at my house and my husband had purchased some orange 672 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 2: washer fluid for my Lexus and I'm not quite sure 673 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: what the differences are, and I'm wondering if it was 674 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: okay that I mixed it. And I'm hoping I did 675 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 2: the right thing, Kate, Katie, and for everybody else out there, 676 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: you know what, it's a great question, Orange Blue. The 677 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: two washer fluids, one has a different freeze point protection 678 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: than the other. As long as the bottle of liquid 679 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: that you're changing from one to the other, or mixing 680 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 2: one to the other doesn't say anything that you know 681 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 2: bad about mixing a fluid. I say it's okay. Engine 682 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: oil would matter. I wouldn't do that transfluid obviously important 683 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: coolant it would matter. So some things you can, some 684 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: things you can't read the bottle, Katie for your question today, 685 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: but was sending you out a car doctor T shirt. 686 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: We appreciate it. I'm ronning any until next time. The 687 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you