1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,708 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,788 --> 00:00:35,788 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,468 --> 00:00:24,068 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. 4 00:00:25,948 --> 00:00:28,908 Speaker 3: Welcoming to Good Morning Football, presented by Old Trap from 5 00:00:28,948 --> 00:00:30,748 Speaker 3: Fat Turkey Live in LA and New York. 6 00:00:30,788 --> 00:00:33,028 Speaker 2: Excusday of Ever twenty six. Kyle, here's what's going on. 7 00:00:33,068 --> 00:00:34,948 Speaker 3: I feel like you're on the outside show right now. 8 00:00:35,148 --> 00:00:39,468 Speaker 3: Just say say, stand back, that's Kyle Brand, Aquar Bajm Millah, myself, 9 00:00:39,548 --> 00:00:42,388 Speaker 3: David ort All. Aqward does this very endearing thing on 10 00:00:42,428 --> 00:00:45,508 Speaker 3: the show where he'll ask you to start talking about 11 00:00:45,548 --> 00:00:48,268 Speaker 3: something outside of football and then he'll be like, yeah, 12 00:00:48,428 --> 00:00:51,028 Speaker 3: this concept, have you heard of it? And Kyle, let 13 00:00:51,068 --> 00:00:53,028 Speaker 3: me just tell you. We're listening to a music studio 14 00:00:53,108 --> 00:00:57,308 Speaker 3: right now, and Akbar goes, you know, and into country music. 15 00:00:57,508 --> 00:01:01,308 Speaker 3: I go, yeah, like who deadpan dead series, Kyle. This 16 00:01:01,348 --> 00:01:04,228 Speaker 3: man just looked at me and said, uh, Kenny Chesney 17 00:01:04,708 --> 00:01:09,068 Speaker 3: heard him? And then the show open rolled and Isaiah 18 00:01:09,108 --> 00:01:09,988 Speaker 3: and I lost our minds. 19 00:01:13,188 --> 00:01:18,188 Speaker 2: Don't know what Kenny Chesney is, who he was? You 20 00:01:18,268 --> 00:01:20,628 Speaker 2: just discovered, just discover him. 21 00:01:20,668 --> 00:01:24,948 Speaker 4: I discovered him when Beyonce's Texas song came out. I 22 00:01:25,028 --> 00:01:27,868 Speaker 4: wasn't looking be honest work. 23 00:01:27,868 --> 00:01:29,548 Speaker 2: Yeah I was. I'm familiar with his work. I didn't know. 24 00:01:29,748 --> 00:01:32,228 Speaker 4: I knew Garth Brook, I knew him, but I didn't 25 00:01:32,228 --> 00:01:34,588 Speaker 4: know you know a lot of the other country songs. 26 00:01:34,628 --> 00:01:35,948 Speaker 4: And I said, you know, let me get into Coach 27 00:01:35,988 --> 00:01:36,388 Speaker 4: because I was. 28 00:01:36,348 --> 00:01:39,148 Speaker 5: Playing her song on loop and I said, oh wow, 29 00:01:39,268 --> 00:01:41,028 Speaker 5: I like this Kenny Chesney. 30 00:01:41,588 --> 00:01:42,388 Speaker 2: This is pretty cool. 31 00:01:42,388 --> 00:01:43,988 Speaker 4: So that's how I discovered Kenny Chesney. 32 00:01:44,348 --> 00:01:46,348 Speaker 2: Hold on, let me get a one show. You should 33 00:01:46,428 --> 00:01:48,868 Speaker 2: check out this. This rapper his name is his name 34 00:01:48,948 --> 00:01:50,268 Speaker 2: is Eminem. He is great. 35 00:01:50,348 --> 00:01:52,828 Speaker 5: He's like totally different. He goes out in a different way. 36 00:01:52,908 --> 00:01:53,588 Speaker 5: You would like him. 37 00:01:53,588 --> 00:01:55,628 Speaker 2: It's the equivalent. No equivalent. 38 00:01:55,748 --> 00:01:58,148 Speaker 6: Was like, Hey, so I've been watching football. There's this 39 00:01:58,188 --> 00:01:59,588 Speaker 6: guy named Tom Brady. 40 00:01:59,628 --> 00:02:04,148 Speaker 2: Ever heard him? It's got crazy. 41 00:02:04,828 --> 00:02:06,988 Speaker 3: It is absolutely the Tom Brady football. 42 00:02:07,948 --> 00:02:09,108 Speaker 2: Okay, pretty up there? 43 00:02:10,028 --> 00:02:14,668 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very I mean, it's so great the way 44 00:02:14,668 --> 00:02:15,468 Speaker 3: you always lived that you. 45 00:02:15,548 --> 00:02:18,508 Speaker 2: Like, have you heard of him? Yeah? Have you heard? 46 00:02:18,668 --> 00:02:22,908 Speaker 2: Have you heard? Tremendous? I thought something Kenny pretty good 47 00:02:22,988 --> 00:02:23,988 Speaker 2: running back? Have you heard? 48 00:02:24,268 --> 00:02:24,428 Speaker 6: Oh? 49 00:02:25,268 --> 00:02:26,148 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's really good. 50 00:02:27,188 --> 00:02:30,508 Speaker 5: There is an all time great college athlete who told 51 00:02:30,508 --> 00:02:32,468 Speaker 5: the Kenny Chesney story on the air ones that I'm 52 00:02:32,468 --> 00:02:34,148 Speaker 5: not going to repeat. It was really weird. I'm not 53 00:02:34,148 --> 00:02:35,628 Speaker 5: going to name the athlete. I'm not going to do 54 00:02:35,668 --> 00:02:38,068 Speaker 5: it. It was years ago. He's a very famous athlete that 55 00:02:38,068 --> 00:02:39,308 Speaker 5: you know. And I'm going to move off to Kenny 56 00:02:39,388 --> 00:02:41,068 Speaker 5: Chesney topic because it was the strangest story in the 57 00:02:41,108 --> 00:02:43,748 Speaker 5: history of Good Morning Football. Let's go to though the 58 00:02:43,748 --> 00:02:46,188 Speaker 5: Monday night football game if we will, please, even I'll 59 00:02:46,228 --> 00:02:47,108 Speaker 5: google it while you want. 60 00:02:47,108 --> 00:02:49,388 Speaker 2: The lead block brings. 61 00:02:49,148 --> 00:02:52,468 Speaker 5: Us to Ravens and Chargers, and it brings us to 62 00:02:52,708 --> 00:02:55,828 Speaker 5: John versus Jim in Jim's house. 63 00:02:56,188 --> 00:02:57,508 Speaker 2: But it's really Lamar. 64 00:02:57,308 --> 00:02:59,628 Speaker 5: Versus the Chargers in those navy blue uniforms. 65 00:02:59,308 --> 00:03:02,228 Speaker 2: That they have never won in. I read that they're zero. 66 00:03:02,068 --> 00:03:04,308 Speaker 5: And five in those uniforms. They look pretty clean back. 67 00:03:04,548 --> 00:03:07,228 Speaker 5: I don't care about that stuff. Stop wearing them. Thirty to 68 00:03:07,268 --> 00:03:11,108 Speaker 5: twenty three, the Ravens win, they're eight and four. They're 69 00:03:11,188 --> 00:03:13,148 Speaker 5: sitting right there in that AFC playoff picture. 70 00:03:13,148 --> 00:03:14,868 Speaker 2: But so are the Chargers seven and four. 71 00:03:15,388 --> 00:03:18,828 Speaker 5: Afterwards, let's hear from the losing head coach, Jim Harbaugh 72 00:03:19,228 --> 00:03:21,668 Speaker 5: and his quarterback Justin Herbert. 73 00:03:23,508 --> 00:03:26,748 Speaker 7: Main thing is, I mean they played better football tonight 74 00:03:27,308 --> 00:03:32,348 Speaker 7: and and as I said a couple of times, yeah, 75 00:03:32,388 --> 00:03:37,188 Speaker 7: that's more importantly to me is I know we're building 76 00:03:37,228 --> 00:03:43,668 Speaker 7: and and I know what we're capable of and onward. 77 00:03:43,948 --> 00:03:46,108 Speaker 8: It's a cool opportunity for them, but I think it's 78 00:03:46,108 --> 00:03:46,908 Speaker 8: another football game. 79 00:03:46,948 --> 00:03:48,268 Speaker 2: You know, it was a great opportunity for. 80 00:03:48,228 --> 00:03:49,788 Speaker 8: Us to go out there and play on on Monday 81 00:03:49,868 --> 00:03:51,588 Speaker 8: Night football, and you know you want to be able 82 00:03:51,588 --> 00:03:53,348 Speaker 8: to play in these games in November and December, and 83 00:03:54,148 --> 00:03:56,868 Speaker 8: you know it didn't go ourway unfortunately, but you know 84 00:03:56,868 --> 00:03:58,388 Speaker 8: we're gonna watch the film, get better from it and 85 00:03:58,628 --> 00:03:59,508 Speaker 8: keep moving forward. 86 00:04:01,588 --> 00:04:03,988 Speaker 3: I think Justin Herbert's a nice guy, but I feel 87 00:04:03,988 --> 00:04:06,468 Speaker 3: like we're on the We like the opportunity on Monday 88 00:04:06,508 --> 00:04:08,668 Speaker 3: night football part of the season, like the Chargers needed 89 00:04:08,668 --> 00:04:10,268 Speaker 3: to win that game just to make a bit of 90 00:04:10,268 --> 00:04:13,948 Speaker 3: a statement in late in the season. Here's the AFC 91 00:04:14,028 --> 00:04:16,948 Speaker 3: playoff picture right now as it stands. Despite the Chiefs 92 00:04:16,988 --> 00:04:20,388 Speaker 3: winning games in different fashions than they may have in 93 00:04:20,428 --> 00:04:22,308 Speaker 3: the past, that's a nice way of putting it. They 94 00:04:22,348 --> 00:04:24,428 Speaker 3: still hold the number one seed. You have to go 95 00:04:24,468 --> 00:04:26,828 Speaker 3: through arrowhead to get to the super Bowl, if you 96 00:04:26,988 --> 00:04:29,868 Speaker 3: ask us. In Week twelve, the Bills, the Steelers, and 97 00:04:29,868 --> 00:04:30,788 Speaker 3: the Texans. 98 00:04:30,388 --> 00:04:31,028 Speaker 2: All round it out. 99 00:04:31,028 --> 00:04:33,588 Speaker 3: Although Houston really isn't playing that great a football right now. 100 00:04:33,668 --> 00:04:35,828 Speaker 2: So let's discuss that's five. 101 00:04:35,668 --> 00:04:38,228 Speaker 3: And six seed, because that was a really impactful Monday 102 00:04:38,268 --> 00:04:40,588 Speaker 3: night game last night. Things that caught your eye from 103 00:04:40,588 --> 00:04:43,508 Speaker 3: the Chargers side of things though, in their loss to 104 00:04:43,588 --> 00:04:46,668 Speaker 3: the Ravens in primetime, Isaiah, I. 105 00:04:46,588 --> 00:04:48,828 Speaker 6: Have to go with the receivers for the Chargers, or 106 00:04:48,868 --> 00:04:54,268 Speaker 6: the lack thereof the options for dependable receivers. When you 107 00:04:54,308 --> 00:04:56,588 Speaker 6: talk about what they've lost over the past year, you 108 00:04:56,668 --> 00:04:58,508 Speaker 6: lost too of the greatest receivers that have played for 109 00:04:58,508 --> 00:05:01,708 Speaker 6: the Chargers organization and Mike Williams Inekeenan Allen. When you 110 00:05:01,748 --> 00:05:03,668 Speaker 6: lose both for those guys and you move on for 111 00:05:03,668 --> 00:05:06,148 Speaker 6: those veterans, you're now entrusting in some young guns, right. 112 00:05:06,188 --> 00:05:09,388 Speaker 6: So obviously you have the young Quinnion Johnson, who everybody's 113 00:05:09,388 --> 00:05:11,108 Speaker 6: going to continue to talk about because of his woes 114 00:05:11,108 --> 00:05:13,388 Speaker 6: over his career so far. But you have a trustworthy 115 00:05:13,428 --> 00:05:16,548 Speaker 6: Palmer who just hasn't been trustworthy as either. So you 116 00:05:16,588 --> 00:05:19,228 Speaker 6: have two guys last night who just were not dependable 117 00:05:19,428 --> 00:05:22,188 Speaker 6: when you needed those down and distance, you know, conversions, 118 00:05:22,228 --> 00:05:24,628 Speaker 6: and when you don't have that as a quarterback, you 119 00:05:24,628 --> 00:05:26,868 Speaker 6: throw the ball with question marks. You hesitate, you hold 120 00:05:26,908 --> 00:05:29,268 Speaker 6: on to the ball, so everything starts going backwards. You 121 00:05:29,268 --> 00:05:31,708 Speaker 6: start getting more sex, start getting more QB pressures. The 122 00:05:31,748 --> 00:05:34,228 Speaker 6: ball's not as accurate, it doesn't have the velocity that 123 00:05:34,228 --> 00:05:36,268 Speaker 6: it once had because now you're trying to place the ball. 124 00:05:36,428 --> 00:05:38,788 Speaker 6: So all these things really start kind of compounding on 125 00:05:38,828 --> 00:05:41,348 Speaker 6: it on themselves. They need some dependable receivers or they 126 00:05:41,348 --> 00:05:42,988 Speaker 6: need the guys to step up in a major way. 127 00:05:43,148 --> 00:05:45,988 Speaker 4: Well, I think what coach Greg Roman offensive coordinated. I 128 00:05:46,028 --> 00:05:48,668 Speaker 4: thought he did an example, did a great job, and 129 00:05:48,868 --> 00:05:52,268 Speaker 4: that example was in that first drive and they opened 130 00:05:52,268 --> 00:05:55,308 Speaker 4: it up with a ninety yard drive that allows them 131 00:05:55,348 --> 00:05:58,148 Speaker 4: to get in to score that first point of the game. 132 00:05:58,788 --> 00:06:01,148 Speaker 4: But when you think about these struggles that they have 133 00:06:01,468 --> 00:06:03,188 Speaker 4: being able to get the ball vertically, I think it's 134 00:06:03,188 --> 00:06:05,308 Speaker 4: going to be a well balanced look of being able 135 00:06:05,348 --> 00:06:08,068 Speaker 4: to execute on the play action, being able to run 136 00:06:08,228 --> 00:06:10,828 Speaker 4: that inside zone run, hitting it up the middle. They 137 00:06:10,868 --> 00:06:13,268 Speaker 4: got away from that because they didn't have the ability 138 00:06:13,428 --> 00:06:15,628 Speaker 4: to really help the play action because they didn't have 139 00:06:15,668 --> 00:06:17,388 Speaker 4: a vertical threat. And once you know you don't have 140 00:06:17,388 --> 00:06:19,588 Speaker 4: a vertical threat, you just start playing up front. 141 00:06:19,668 --> 00:06:19,908 Speaker 2: JK. 142 00:06:19,988 --> 00:06:23,148 Speaker 4: Dobbins, though, look good coming out the coming out the gate. 143 00:06:23,228 --> 00:06:26,788 Speaker 4: So the Chargers, I think they've got some improvement to do. 144 00:06:27,148 --> 00:06:29,308 Speaker 4: They got to fix that deep shot very very fast. 145 00:06:30,588 --> 00:06:33,748 Speaker 5: Yeah, Dobbins leaves the game of an injury. You hate 146 00:06:33,748 --> 00:06:35,148 Speaker 5: to see that with him because he's had such an 147 00:06:35,148 --> 00:06:36,868 Speaker 5: injury history. He's been a big part of what they 148 00:06:36,948 --> 00:06:39,388 Speaker 5: do here. I think the Chargers are still on pace 149 00:06:39,428 --> 00:06:41,708 Speaker 5: this to win eleven games, like personally I said they 150 00:06:41,708 --> 00:06:43,388 Speaker 5: would the second they hired Jim Harbaugh. 151 00:06:44,028 --> 00:06:46,028 Speaker 2: I can see how the movie ends for the Chargers. 152 00:06:46,068 --> 00:06:48,668 Speaker 5: They're gonna win eleven games, they're gonna get in the playoffs, 153 00:06:49,028 --> 00:06:51,148 Speaker 5: and they're likely gonna lose in the wild card round 154 00:06:51,188 --> 00:06:54,028 Speaker 5: of someone like Houston or Pittsburgh or maybe Baltimore because 155 00:06:54,108 --> 00:06:56,228 Speaker 5: Quentin Johnson drops the pass. We've seen this now for 156 00:06:56,228 --> 00:06:58,228 Speaker 5: a year and a half. It's probably how it's gonna go. 157 00:06:58,548 --> 00:07:00,388 Speaker 5: I actually want to switch to the Ravens because I 158 00:07:00,428 --> 00:07:02,268 Speaker 5: want to get to the end of their movie so badly. 159 00:07:02,548 --> 00:07:04,348 Speaker 5: I just don't know how this one ends. I've seen 160 00:07:04,468 --> 00:07:08,028 Speaker 5: in this movie many many times. Lamar's great, they get 161 00:07:08,068 --> 00:07:11,308 Speaker 5: to the playoffs, they lose, they underwhelm, and is it 162 00:07:11,348 --> 00:07:13,948 Speaker 5: going to be different? Here's the hope to expect it 163 00:07:13,988 --> 00:07:16,228 Speaker 5: to maybe be different this year. Obviously, the Derek Henry 164 00:07:16,268 --> 00:07:18,228 Speaker 5: thing we've talked about a lot. I don't even think 165 00:07:18,268 --> 00:07:22,188 Speaker 5: it's getting appreciated that much. How good the offense has been. 166 00:07:22,268 --> 00:07:23,188 Speaker 2: So when you're. 167 00:07:23,068 --> 00:07:24,948 Speaker 5: Trying to talk about an offense and just hype it up, 168 00:07:24,948 --> 00:07:27,508 Speaker 5: you say, oh, since the ninety nine Rams, Oh they 169 00:07:27,508 --> 00:07:29,388 Speaker 5: look like the greatest show on turf. It's what you 170 00:07:29,428 --> 00:07:31,548 Speaker 5: do on offenses. Do you want to see us side 171 00:07:31,548 --> 00:07:33,148 Speaker 5: by side for right now? That I think is very 172 00:07:33,148 --> 00:07:35,908 Speaker 5: compelling about the Baltimorerivens of this year and the greatest 173 00:07:35,908 --> 00:07:38,148 Speaker 5: show on turf? All right, that's the Rams on the right. 174 00:07:38,188 --> 00:07:40,508 Speaker 5: I'm talking about the old two thousand Rams. Let's just 175 00:07:40,548 --> 00:07:42,748 Speaker 5: go from top to bottom. Rams have a few more 176 00:07:42,828 --> 00:07:45,708 Speaker 5: yards per game. The yards per play is actually insane 177 00:07:45,788 --> 00:07:48,108 Speaker 5: seven yards per play. The Rams have a few more 178 00:07:48,148 --> 00:07:51,788 Speaker 5: points and they have slightly less plays per drive. But 179 00:07:51,828 --> 00:07:53,748 Speaker 5: I want you to look at yards per play. Seven 180 00:07:53,948 --> 00:07:58,068 Speaker 5: is ridiculous. For comparison, the Lions this year are six 181 00:07:58,148 --> 00:08:00,468 Speaker 5: to three. They're not even close to seven. If you're 182 00:08:00,468 --> 00:08:04,468 Speaker 5: doing seven yards per play, that is historic, especially if 183 00:08:04,508 --> 00:08:06,708 Speaker 5: you're looked upon as sort of a plotting offense that 184 00:08:06,828 --> 00:08:09,268 Speaker 5: hands is to Derrick Henry, and it's a pile of dust. 185 00:08:09,388 --> 00:08:13,228 Speaker 5: It's not it's seven yards per play. Now, last year 186 00:08:13,348 --> 00:08:16,308 Speaker 5: Lamar won the MVP, and I think a very very 187 00:08:16,348 --> 00:08:20,468 Speaker 5: strange MVP year in which his stats were not MVP stats. 188 00:08:20,908 --> 00:08:24,188 Speaker 5: This year, his stats are better this year. The offense 189 00:08:24,268 --> 00:08:27,228 Speaker 5: is better. This year, they have Derrick Henry. Is the 190 00:08:27,428 --> 00:08:29,028 Speaker 5: movie different? Is the movie? 191 00:08:29,028 --> 00:08:29,908 Speaker 2: It's seen? Different? 192 00:08:29,948 --> 00:08:30,068 Speaker 9: Now? 193 00:08:30,108 --> 00:08:32,268 Speaker 2: It's really crazier. Stay with me ver a second. 194 00:08:32,588 --> 00:08:35,268 Speaker 5: The Baltimore Ravens are going to play the Philadelphia Eagles. 195 00:08:35,268 --> 00:08:38,828 Speaker 5: That is a crazy, huge, monstrous game. You don't get 196 00:08:38,828 --> 00:08:40,628 Speaker 5: bigger games than that in middle of the regular season. 197 00:08:40,748 --> 00:08:41,388 Speaker 2: And then even. 198 00:08:41,188 --> 00:08:43,948 Speaker 5: Crazier than that, the Ravens have not had their buy yet. 199 00:08:43,988 --> 00:08:46,908 Speaker 5: They have a really really late buy. So what's going 200 00:08:46,948 --> 00:08:48,988 Speaker 5: to happen is they're going to play Philadelphia, They're going 201 00:08:49,028 --> 00:08:50,308 Speaker 5: to go into the bye, and we're all going to 202 00:08:50,388 --> 00:08:51,828 Speaker 5: talk about the Ravens for two weeks. 203 00:08:51,988 --> 00:08:54,348 Speaker 2: Good bad. Otherwise, I don't even care. 204 00:08:54,748 --> 00:08:57,628 Speaker 5: I just want to fast forward until the divisional or 205 00:08:57,668 --> 00:09:00,628 Speaker 5: the wild card, whatever it may be, and do they win. 206 00:09:00,868 --> 00:09:03,788 Speaker 2: I don't know. This is fine, I don't the schedule. 207 00:09:04,108 --> 00:09:06,028 Speaker 5: They'll win most of those games, guys, you already know 208 00:09:06,068 --> 00:09:08,668 Speaker 5: that we know what's going to happen for the rest 209 00:09:08,668 --> 00:09:10,988 Speaker 5: of this part of the season. For the Ravens, they'll 210 00:09:11,028 --> 00:09:14,108 Speaker 5: probably win three out of five of those games, four 211 00:09:14,108 --> 00:09:14,548 Speaker 5: out of five. 212 00:09:14,588 --> 00:09:15,148 Speaker 2: I don't know. 213 00:09:15,428 --> 00:09:18,388 Speaker 5: They're just in this rare class of team where it's 214 00:09:18,428 --> 00:09:20,228 Speaker 5: like I kind of know everything I need to know 215 00:09:20,308 --> 00:09:20,748 Speaker 5: about you. 216 00:09:20,868 --> 00:09:21,548 Speaker 2: We all do. 217 00:09:22,108 --> 00:09:24,028 Speaker 5: Just get to the end and tell us if it's 218 00:09:24,028 --> 00:09:26,748 Speaker 5: a different ending this time or not. And that's all 219 00:09:26,788 --> 00:09:28,868 Speaker 5: it is. There's only like three or four teams like that. 220 00:09:29,108 --> 00:09:32,828 Speaker 5: Buffalo is certainly won, Philadelphia not because last year was 221 00:09:32,868 --> 00:09:33,348 Speaker 5: so different. 222 00:09:33,388 --> 00:09:36,508 Speaker 2: But the Ravens are just we run through the season. 223 00:09:36,588 --> 00:09:39,268 Speaker 5: They're good, they're good, maybe they're great, and we'll find 224 00:09:39,268 --> 00:09:40,788 Speaker 5: out until then wait and see. 225 00:09:41,548 --> 00:09:43,668 Speaker 6: So, Kyle, I don't disagree with you, but the difference 226 00:09:43,748 --> 00:09:47,868 Speaker 6: this year is the Baltimore Ravens offensively are not going 227 00:09:47,948 --> 00:09:49,748 Speaker 6: to be the reason why they don't win. If that 228 00:09:49,868 --> 00:09:51,308 Speaker 6: ends up being the end of this story, it's going 229 00:09:51,348 --> 00:09:53,708 Speaker 6: to be the defense. And I'll tell you why. The 230 00:09:54,148 --> 00:09:58,028 Speaker 6: Baltimore Ravens have given up the sixth least amount of turnovers. 231 00:09:58,068 --> 00:10:00,628 Speaker 6: They don't turn the ball over, and the Baltimore Ravens 232 00:10:00,668 --> 00:10:03,388 Speaker 6: are leading the NFL in passing, and then the Baltimore 233 00:10:03,428 --> 00:10:05,748 Speaker 6: Ravens are second in the league in rushing. 234 00:10:05,868 --> 00:10:06,508 Speaker 2: So when you're. 235 00:10:06,388 --> 00:10:09,188 Speaker 6: Able to be in the top three in rushing, top 236 00:10:09,428 --> 00:10:11,908 Speaker 6: number one in passing, and you're not turning the ball over, 237 00:10:12,188 --> 00:10:14,708 Speaker 6: you're not going to be the reason why you don't say. 238 00:10:14,708 --> 00:10:16,748 Speaker 2: I love you. I get it. I think you're making 239 00:10:16,788 --> 00:10:17,588 Speaker 2: all the right points. 240 00:10:18,108 --> 00:10:20,308 Speaker 5: And yet you know, you play Pittsburgh and you score 241 00:10:20,348 --> 00:10:22,348 Speaker 5: sixteen points and you lose to a team doesn't score 242 00:10:22,348 --> 00:10:25,468 Speaker 5: a touchdown. It's like, that's what I'm saying. Like they're 243 00:10:25,628 --> 00:10:28,988 Speaker 5: such a shiny object. They're so impressive, and this year 244 00:10:29,068 --> 00:10:31,628 Speaker 5: even more so because the numbers I showed and because 245 00:10:31,668 --> 00:10:32,748 Speaker 5: Derek Henry is so fun. 246 00:10:33,068 --> 00:10:35,428 Speaker 2: They just have an ability to do on a given day. 247 00:10:35,548 --> 00:10:38,028 Speaker 2: Be like, who are these guys? Who are these guys 248 00:10:38,028 --> 00:10:39,708 Speaker 2: that I've watched for three months? And I don't know 249 00:10:39,748 --> 00:10:41,508 Speaker 2: if that's going to be different or not. I want 250 00:10:41,508 --> 00:10:43,068 Speaker 2: to see that full screen again. This is what I'm 251 00:10:43,068 --> 00:10:43,468 Speaker 2: asking for. 252 00:10:43,508 --> 00:10:45,188 Speaker 3: Can we take a look at this again, the one 253 00:10:45,188 --> 00:10:47,908 Speaker 3: that Kyle just had up with the comparisons the Rams 254 00:10:47,948 --> 00:10:52,188 Speaker 3: and the Ravens, because yesterday you were saying that you 255 00:10:52,308 --> 00:10:55,468 Speaker 3: thought the Lions were up there with the greatest show 256 00:10:55,468 --> 00:10:57,068 Speaker 3: on turf. So I'm just going to do this verbally 257 00:10:57,068 --> 00:10:58,508 Speaker 3: because we're not going to add the team. Here, we 258 00:10:58,548 --> 00:11:01,708 Speaker 3: go total yards per game because I'm looking at the 259 00:11:01,748 --> 00:11:09,948 Speaker 3: Lions right now, Da da, they're at that can't be right? Oh, 260 00:11:10,268 --> 00:11:11,308 Speaker 3: three point fifty six? 261 00:11:11,428 --> 00:11:12,028 Speaker 2: Is that so not right? 262 00:11:12,228 --> 00:11:12,948 Speaker 4: Three fifty six? 263 00:11:13,148 --> 00:11:15,668 Speaker 3: We'll get that the yards per play yards per play 264 00:11:16,508 --> 00:11:18,628 Speaker 3: is six point one. 265 00:11:18,588 --> 00:11:22,068 Speaker 4: Six point one, okay, okay, and then points per game. 266 00:11:21,908 --> 00:11:25,068 Speaker 3: Points per game standby, Yeah, we're looking at that. 267 00:11:25,308 --> 00:11:28,348 Speaker 4: Yeah, Ravens are at thirty point three. The greatest show 268 00:11:28,388 --> 00:11:31,148 Speaker 4: on turf was thirty three point eight. I mean, impressive 269 00:11:31,228 --> 00:11:32,508 Speaker 4: numbers right there. 270 00:11:32,628 --> 00:11:35,268 Speaker 3: No, I like, I know, I don't want to watch it, 271 00:11:35,308 --> 00:11:36,628 Speaker 3: So I'm not going to just like that's all right, 272 00:11:36,668 --> 00:11:37,788 Speaker 3: and I want to put the line. I want to 273 00:11:37,788 --> 00:11:38,348 Speaker 3: look at the Lions. 274 00:11:38,388 --> 00:11:40,308 Speaker 2: Can we put them up there eventually? Because this is 275 00:11:40,308 --> 00:11:40,828 Speaker 2: a really. 276 00:11:40,628 --> 00:11:43,948 Speaker 3: Good conversation because AFC and NFC, because it's beyond just 277 00:11:43,988 --> 00:11:47,028 Speaker 3: like statistical argument. In fact, what you're saying here is 278 00:11:47,108 --> 00:11:49,788 Speaker 3: kind of parallel to the Lamar Jackson MVP argument, which 279 00:11:49,828 --> 00:11:51,748 Speaker 3: is like they can put up the numbers and they 280 00:11:51,748 --> 00:11:53,628 Speaker 3: can look great, they can be the statistical kings in 281 00:11:53,708 --> 00:11:56,388 Speaker 3: the regular season. But when it comes to Kyle, your 282 00:11:56,508 --> 00:11:59,228 Speaker 3: argument for the Ravens is really starting to parallel what 283 00:11:59,268 --> 00:12:01,548 Speaker 3: you always say about the Cowboys, which is like this 284 00:12:01,668 --> 00:12:03,708 Speaker 3: is nice, this is great, and now here we are 285 00:12:03,708 --> 00:12:07,028 Speaker 3: in January looking at them on January fifteenth, and we're 286 00:12:07,068 --> 00:12:09,268 Speaker 3: looking ahead to the Ravens draft pick. 287 00:12:09,388 --> 00:12:12,508 Speaker 2: So are you doing this well, Gamie? The two thousand Ravens. 288 00:12:12,908 --> 00:12:15,588 Speaker 5: The two thousand Rams didn't win the Super Bowl either. 289 00:12:15,868 --> 00:12:18,348 Speaker 2: They got schooled up and they lost. 290 00:12:18,788 --> 00:12:20,588 Speaker 5: So it's like that because they ran into a really, 291 00:12:20,628 --> 00:12:23,868 Speaker 5: really good Patriots defense. It's just like sometimes these offensive 292 00:12:23,908 --> 00:12:26,548 Speaker 5: juggernauts they disappoint us, and how do you come out 293 00:12:26,748 --> 00:12:28,828 Speaker 5: the next morning after they beat the Chargers and say 294 00:12:29,028 --> 00:12:31,908 Speaker 5: whining about the Ravens. Just because there's much expected of 295 00:12:31,948 --> 00:12:34,548 Speaker 5: the Ravens. They have a different expectation. They're one of 296 00:12:34,588 --> 00:12:37,308 Speaker 5: one handful of teams in the whole league who we 297 00:12:37,348 --> 00:12:38,788 Speaker 5: look at as they're top echelon. 298 00:12:38,868 --> 00:12:39,548 Speaker 2: They're up there. 299 00:12:39,628 --> 00:12:41,908 Speaker 5: So you go to the playoffs again and you know, 300 00:12:41,948 --> 00:12:43,468 Speaker 5: you lose to the Chiefs or whoever it is, you 301 00:12:43,468 --> 00:12:44,548 Speaker 5: lose to Buffalo, It's like. 302 00:12:44,748 --> 00:12:45,908 Speaker 2: What are we gonna do with you guys? 303 00:12:45,908 --> 00:12:48,308 Speaker 5: We spent four months always saying how amazing you are. 304 00:12:48,508 --> 00:12:50,468 Speaker 5: Now you bring in Henry, we're comparing you to old 305 00:12:50,548 --> 00:12:53,108 Speaker 5: RAMS teams, and you let us down again. It's just 306 00:12:53,588 --> 00:12:56,148 Speaker 5: that's the expectation, and we only have to just wait 307 00:12:56,228 --> 00:12:57,988 Speaker 5: and hope that it can be different this, Kyle. 308 00:12:58,028 --> 00:12:59,708 Speaker 4: The one thing I will say that is different that 309 00:12:59,868 --> 00:13:02,188 Speaker 4: might make this different for and maybe even give you 310 00:13:02,268 --> 00:13:04,948 Speaker 4: a little bit more hope in the Baltimore is the 311 00:13:04,948 --> 00:13:08,428 Speaker 4: fact that in Lamar Jackson's tenure, they've never had anyone 312 00:13:08,468 --> 00:13:12,508 Speaker 4: like Derrick Henry. And that's a massive, massive upgrade and 313 00:13:12,628 --> 00:13:15,988 Speaker 4: trust and confidence in the ability, you know, and you know, 314 00:13:16,028 --> 00:13:17,748 Speaker 4: I know, you know you were talking about Isaiah was 315 00:13:17,748 --> 00:13:20,788 Speaker 4: talking about the liability being the defense and then putting 316 00:13:20,788 --> 00:13:23,508 Speaker 4: all the concern on there. But offensively, I think that's 317 00:13:23,548 --> 00:13:25,548 Speaker 4: where we start going, Oh man, they have all this 318 00:13:25,628 --> 00:13:28,868 Speaker 4: offensive power and it didn't turn through. That run game 319 00:13:29,108 --> 00:13:32,868 Speaker 4: is old school, hard nos football that you can rely 320 00:13:32,988 --> 00:13:35,948 Speaker 4: on even if Lamar Jackson is having an off game. 321 00:13:36,028 --> 00:13:38,108 Speaker 4: So I think hopefully you feel a little bit more 322 00:13:38,308 --> 00:13:40,068 Speaker 4: secure with that type of insurance. 323 00:13:40,388 --> 00:13:41,788 Speaker 2: Run game is vital. 324 00:13:42,148 --> 00:13:44,268 Speaker 3: Just as the Chargers they might have an injury to 325 00:13:44,308 --> 00:13:46,988 Speaker 3: their running back Tom Pellisero, get in here. 326 00:13:47,028 --> 00:13:48,388 Speaker 10: A couple questions for you, sir. 327 00:13:48,668 --> 00:13:51,028 Speaker 3: Do you know who Kenny Chesney is and what's going 328 00:13:51,068 --> 00:13:51,548 Speaker 3: on with JK. 329 00:13:51,668 --> 00:13:52,108 Speaker 2: Dobbins. 330 00:13:53,828 --> 00:13:56,828 Speaker 10: Familiar with Kenny Chesney? Not a country music fan? I 331 00:13:56,868 --> 00:13:59,668 Speaker 10: can tell you, Jamie. The Lions rank second in yards 332 00:13:59,708 --> 00:14:02,028 Speaker 10: per game, third in yards per play, thank you, and 333 00:14:02,148 --> 00:14:06,148 Speaker 10: number one at thirty two point seven points per game. 334 00:14:06,268 --> 00:14:09,508 Speaker 10: Let's talk about JK. Dobbins, the Chargers running back. The 335 00:14:09,628 --> 00:14:12,868 Speaker 10: jargon removing the football last night until Dobbins came out 336 00:14:12,868 --> 00:14:16,068 Speaker 10: of that game with a left knee injury. Listen initially 337 00:14:16,108 --> 00:14:18,388 Speaker 10: was listed as questionable. He actually came out of the 338 00:14:18,428 --> 00:14:20,908 Speaker 10: locker room wearing a brace, tried to warm it up 339 00:14:20,908 --> 00:14:22,988 Speaker 10: at the start of the third quarter, but just couldn't 340 00:14:22,988 --> 00:14:25,268 Speaker 10: get himself going. The fact that they allowed him even 341 00:14:25,308 --> 00:14:28,188 Speaker 10: to test it out with the brace would indicate that 342 00:14:28,268 --> 00:14:31,788 Speaker 10: they are optimistic. This is not a major injury for JK. 343 00:14:31,868 --> 00:14:32,268 Speaker 2: Dobbins. 344 00:14:32,388 --> 00:14:34,828 Speaker 10: But remember that left knee is the one in which 345 00:14:34,868 --> 00:14:37,508 Speaker 10: he tore his ACL back in the twenty twenty one preseason. 346 00:14:37,548 --> 00:14:40,588 Speaker 10: He had a second surgery removed scar tissue in twenty 347 00:14:40,628 --> 00:14:43,748 Speaker 10: twenty two. I would anticipate there are more tests on JK. 348 00:14:43,908 --> 00:14:47,588 Speaker 10: Dobbins today if the Chargers try to rule out anything significant, 349 00:14:47,588 --> 00:14:48,868 Speaker 10: that might side by him. 350 00:14:48,868 --> 00:14:49,468 Speaker 2: For a while. 351 00:14:49,668 --> 00:14:53,748 Speaker 10: In other news, former Giants quarterback Daniel Jones now officially 352 00:14:53,868 --> 00:14:57,828 Speaker 10: a free agent, though that may not last all that long. 353 00:14:57,948 --> 00:15:01,508 Speaker 10: Daniel Jones has interest from multiple teams, most likely to 354 00:15:01,628 --> 00:15:05,028 Speaker 10: land someplace as a backup. That decision is a expected 355 00:15:05,388 --> 00:15:09,188 Speaker 10: as soon as today. Of course, we've had speculation and 356 00:15:09,348 --> 00:15:11,908 Speaker 10: reports regarding teams like the Ravens and the Vikings. I 357 00:15:11,908 --> 00:15:15,308 Speaker 10: would fairly tell you there are other teams also that 358 00:15:15,388 --> 00:15:18,148 Speaker 10: are trying to make a post to land Daniel Jones 359 00:15:18,468 --> 00:15:21,988 Speaker 10: as their backup. There's also another quarterback that popped up 360 00:15:21,988 --> 00:15:25,028 Speaker 10: on the injury report on Monday. It is the Cowboys 361 00:15:25,068 --> 00:15:28,468 Speaker 10: Cooper Rush, who is listed as limited in practice because 362 00:15:28,468 --> 00:15:31,348 Speaker 10: of a knee injury. I am told Cooper Rush took 363 00:15:31,388 --> 00:15:35,788 Speaker 10: a shot on that knee. He is very sore right now. 364 00:15:35,868 --> 00:15:38,548 Speaker 10: Mike McCarthy said that he's got some work to do, 365 00:15:38,628 --> 00:15:39,548 Speaker 10: but he thinks that they're going. 366 00:15:39,548 --> 00:15:40,228 Speaker 11: To be okay. 367 00:15:40,588 --> 00:15:43,068 Speaker 10: It is a short week though, before the Thanksgiving game 368 00:15:43,148 --> 00:15:46,228 Speaker 10: against the Giants, so certainly a lot of treatment coming 369 00:15:46,268 --> 00:15:48,788 Speaker 10: for Cooper Rush to try to be ready for a game. 370 00:15:48,828 --> 00:15:50,948 Speaker 10: That could keep the Cowboys on the edge of the 371 00:15:50,988 --> 00:15:51,628 Speaker 10: playoff picture. 372 00:15:51,668 --> 00:15:51,948 Speaker 2: Jamie. 373 00:15:51,988 --> 00:15:53,988 Speaker 3: Okay, Tom, So you said with Daniel Jones that you 374 00:15:53,988 --> 00:15:55,708 Speaker 3: think a decision is going to come today. Can you 375 00:15:55,788 --> 00:15:58,108 Speaker 3: just do a quick clarification on what a team would 376 00:15:58,148 --> 00:16:00,308 Speaker 3: have to pay him? Like this is like a nothing 377 00:16:00,348 --> 00:16:02,268 Speaker 3: burger when it comes to putting Daniel Jones on your 378 00:16:02,348 --> 00:16:03,148 Speaker 3: roster right. 379 00:16:04,628 --> 00:16:07,188 Speaker 10: Correct, He's doing another eleven point eight million dollars fully 380 00:16:07,228 --> 00:16:10,548 Speaker 10: guaranteed for the balance of this season, subject to offsets. 381 00:16:10,548 --> 00:16:12,668 Speaker 10: So the new team either can signed to the practice 382 00:16:12,668 --> 00:16:15,628 Speaker 10: squad potentially or sign him to a minimum deal on 383 00:16:15,668 --> 00:16:19,068 Speaker 10: their roster. It's basically six games plus playoffs at a 384 00:16:19,268 --> 00:16:22,148 Speaker 10: minimum salary. Here you get a look at Daniel Jones, 385 00:16:22,188 --> 00:16:25,188 Speaker 10: who is a highly drafted player. He's a physical specimen. 386 00:16:25,348 --> 00:16:26,948 Speaker 10: You'll see whether or not you can get something out 387 00:16:26,988 --> 00:16:29,708 Speaker 10: of him. For Daniel Jones, an opportunity just to go someplace, 388 00:16:29,748 --> 00:16:31,908 Speaker 10: maybe learn a new offense, be exposed to a different 389 00:16:31,948 --> 00:16:34,668 Speaker 10: coaching step. We've seen this workout with the likes of 390 00:16:34,668 --> 00:16:37,428 Speaker 10: Baker Mayfield, big different speed. I don't think that Daniel 391 00:16:37,508 --> 00:16:39,348 Speaker 10: Jones is going to sign someplace and start a game 392 00:16:39,388 --> 00:16:41,748 Speaker 10: on Thursday, which is basically what Baker did. This is 393 00:16:41,868 --> 00:16:44,988 Speaker 10: much more of a go someplace, work your way into 394 00:16:45,108 --> 00:16:48,228 Speaker 10: the system, and then we'll see exactly what that means 395 00:16:48,228 --> 00:16:51,108 Speaker 10: when he presumably hits free agency again come this March. 396 00:16:55,788 --> 00:16:58,908 Speaker 9: There's no place that I would rather be on Thanksgiving 397 00:16:58,908 --> 00:17:01,548 Speaker 9: than rise here right now at a football game. There's 398 00:17:01,588 --> 00:17:04,068 Speaker 9: just certain things that go together, you know, the turkey, 399 00:17:04,788 --> 00:17:11,788 Speaker 9: the family, the tradition, football, and we have it all today. 400 00:17:11,828 --> 00:17:12,708 Speaker 12: Thanks Giving me. 401 00:17:16,308 --> 00:17:16,628 Speaker 2: All right. 402 00:17:16,748 --> 00:17:19,908 Speaker 5: Christmas has Santa Claus, Thanksgiving has Madden. 403 00:17:19,988 --> 00:17:21,908 Speaker 2: We're gonna get into all of this. Look at this. 404 00:17:22,388 --> 00:17:24,988 Speaker 5: So you got bears, head, Lions, the tradition, watch the 405 00:17:25,028 --> 00:17:27,428 Speaker 5: Lion show. Watch Caleb try to chip away at it. 406 00:17:28,028 --> 00:17:30,748 Speaker 2: Giants, Cowboys. Wen't know exactly what we're getting from that one. 407 00:17:30,948 --> 00:17:33,028 Speaker 2: Cooper Rush is hurt now, but we'll be there anyway. 408 00:17:33,068 --> 00:17:36,148 Speaker 5: That's right after the food and then Dolphins Packers can 409 00:17:36,188 --> 00:17:37,228 Speaker 5: do a play in the cold. 410 00:17:37,268 --> 00:17:38,388 Speaker 2: All that wonderful stuff. 411 00:17:38,708 --> 00:17:42,308 Speaker 5: But more importantly, the great John Madden's legacy lives on, 412 00:17:43,068 --> 00:17:47,068 Speaker 5: and of course the Madden video game and Amazon Prime 413 00:17:47,148 --> 00:17:49,908 Speaker 5: Video is dropping a four part series today on how 414 00:17:49,948 --> 00:17:53,028 Speaker 5: the legendary coach changed the video game in sports world forever, 415 00:17:53,148 --> 00:17:59,628 Speaker 5: including making a player rating system that becomes highly highly debated. 416 00:18:00,988 --> 00:18:05,388 Speaker 6: It probably co from I mean some computer just geek, 417 00:18:05,748 --> 00:18:07,948 Speaker 6: don't even know what the football is. 418 00:18:08,468 --> 00:18:11,628 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did the original player ratings. 419 00:18:12,268 --> 00:18:14,748 Speaker 5: And whatever they would meet with Madden, the first thing 420 00:18:14,788 --> 00:18:17,548 Speaker 5: that they would do was about their player ratings. 421 00:18:17,868 --> 00:18:18,988 Speaker 2: Dad thought it was a joke. 422 00:18:19,108 --> 00:18:21,548 Speaker 11: And then you know, the player would leave and the 423 00:18:21,588 --> 00:18:24,668 Speaker 11: pier guy would be like, yeah, no, he read his rating. 424 00:18:24,868 --> 00:18:27,548 Speaker 5: There was plenty of times when the athletes came in 425 00:18:27,828 --> 00:18:30,828 Speaker 5: and we had discussions about their actual ratings. 426 00:18:31,548 --> 00:18:34,428 Speaker 2: Ricky Waters came in to see me because I'm fast injury. 427 00:18:34,428 --> 00:18:36,548 Speaker 2: You got to make my speed ready higher than Jerry Rice. 428 00:18:36,868 --> 00:18:37,988 Speaker 2: I said, Ricky, we can't do that. 429 00:18:39,908 --> 00:18:40,748 Speaker 11: It's in the game. 430 00:18:42,948 --> 00:18:44,748 Speaker 5: It is in the game, and right now it's in 431 00:18:44,788 --> 00:18:46,868 Speaker 5: the show. You saw him there in that piece. We 432 00:18:46,948 --> 00:18:50,268 Speaker 5: are now joined by John Madden's son, Mike Madden. Mike, 433 00:18:50,348 --> 00:18:50,748 Speaker 5: Good morning. 434 00:18:50,788 --> 00:18:56,308 Speaker 2: How you doing Mike? 435 00:18:56,348 --> 00:18:58,028 Speaker 5: We have so much to talk about, but before we do, 436 00:18:58,108 --> 00:19:00,228 Speaker 5: would you mind setting the scene for us a little bit. 437 00:19:00,268 --> 00:19:02,628 Speaker 2: What is this incredible background? And where are you right now? 438 00:19:03,948 --> 00:19:07,388 Speaker 13: I mean in our office in Pleasant in California, and 439 00:19:07,428 --> 00:19:10,548 Speaker 13: I'm sitting in my dad's old conference area. That was 440 00:19:10,668 --> 00:19:13,868 Speaker 13: just off his his desk is over to my left 441 00:19:13,948 --> 00:19:16,508 Speaker 13: and his office and then off I'm off to the 442 00:19:16,588 --> 00:19:19,348 Speaker 13: right in his in his conference area where he's got 443 00:19:19,388 --> 00:19:23,548 Speaker 13: his raider Raider wall behind me, and a couple of 444 00:19:23,588 --> 00:19:28,748 Speaker 13: other a couple of other trophies and things hollow ground. 445 00:19:28,828 --> 00:19:31,748 Speaker 5: I see trophies as memorabilia. I say, double low, gem Atto. 446 00:19:31,828 --> 00:19:33,668 Speaker 5: It's a really really cool stetup, and we love that 447 00:19:33,708 --> 00:19:36,668 Speaker 5: you're joining us. Let's start right now about some whining 448 00:19:36,708 --> 00:19:37,428 Speaker 5: and complaining. 449 00:19:37,508 --> 00:19:38,708 Speaker 2: We just saw it in the video. 450 00:19:39,228 --> 00:19:43,508 Speaker 5: How much did the players really lobby your dad and 451 00:19:43,548 --> 00:19:46,468 Speaker 5: everyone involved in the game about their personal player rating? 452 00:19:47,908 --> 00:19:50,948 Speaker 13: They did, and and he he came in and you know, 453 00:19:51,028 --> 00:19:53,188 Speaker 13: like I said on that little clip, he thought it 454 00:19:53,228 --> 00:19:53,708 Speaker 13: was a joke. 455 00:19:54,148 --> 00:19:55,308 Speaker 11: He thought they were teasing. 456 00:19:55,428 --> 00:19:58,748 Speaker 13: But they they found out what their ratings were, and 457 00:19:59,148 --> 00:20:01,228 Speaker 13: just you know, and they wanted they. 458 00:20:01,268 --> 00:20:04,108 Speaker 11: Always wanted more juice. They always wanted to give me 459 00:20:04,108 --> 00:20:04,668 Speaker 11: more juice. 460 00:20:04,748 --> 00:20:05,708 Speaker 2: Juice me up. Come on. 461 00:20:06,268 --> 00:20:08,628 Speaker 13: And some of the players he really liked, you know, 462 00:20:08,668 --> 00:20:11,308 Speaker 13: the ones that he would meet the day before the game, 463 00:20:11,388 --> 00:20:12,628 Speaker 13: you know, the Randy Mosses. 464 00:20:12,668 --> 00:20:15,108 Speaker 11: You know, so when Randy Moss wants a little more juice, 465 00:20:15,828 --> 00:20:17,388 Speaker 11: you pick up the phone and you see what you 466 00:20:17,428 --> 00:20:18,268 Speaker 11: might be able to do for. 467 00:20:18,268 --> 00:20:19,548 Speaker 2: The gug Wow. 468 00:20:19,748 --> 00:20:21,588 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's kind of hard. That's kind of 469 00:20:21,588 --> 00:20:24,388 Speaker 4: hard to ignore, you know, a call from a Jerry Rice. 470 00:20:24,828 --> 00:20:24,988 Speaker 7: You know. 471 00:20:25,228 --> 00:20:27,588 Speaker 4: I think about you know, growing up, you know, as 472 00:20:27,628 --> 00:20:30,108 Speaker 4: a kid in the eighties and nineties, and just remember 473 00:20:30,148 --> 00:20:32,548 Speaker 4: when Madden Football came out and how big it was. 474 00:20:32,788 --> 00:20:35,028 Speaker 4: It kind of supplanted that of tech Bo Bowl. Tech 475 00:20:35,028 --> 00:20:38,508 Speaker 4: Bobowl was the thing before then. I got to ask 476 00:20:38,548 --> 00:20:40,788 Speaker 4: because I know there's the famous story about Hulk Hogan 477 00:20:40,908 --> 00:20:44,428 Speaker 4: missing out on the Foreman Grill opportunity. You know, he 478 00:20:44,428 --> 00:20:46,788 Speaker 4: missed a phone call. Like, what did your father think 479 00:20:46,868 --> 00:20:50,628 Speaker 4: when they approached him to do this game? Was he familiar? 480 00:20:50,748 --> 00:20:53,908 Speaker 4: Was he interested? Did he need a lot of convincing 481 00:20:53,988 --> 00:20:54,268 Speaker 4: for this? 482 00:20:55,988 --> 00:21:00,268 Speaker 13: Well he didn't because it started out as a computer project, 483 00:21:00,708 --> 00:21:03,988 Speaker 13: and there was even a period of time where it 484 00:21:04,028 --> 00:21:06,708 Speaker 13: was going to be a coaching tool, but it started 485 00:21:06,708 --> 00:21:09,588 Speaker 13: out being made for computers video games. Like you said, 486 00:21:09,748 --> 00:21:12,748 Speaker 13: you know, tech Moobil did not have the capability to 487 00:21:13,508 --> 00:21:16,188 Speaker 13: uh do what they're now doing, and nor could they 488 00:21:16,508 --> 00:21:20,308 Speaker 13: even project ahead. So he was working with Trip Hawkins 489 00:21:20,628 --> 00:21:22,268 Speaker 13: and he was really impressed with Trip. 490 00:21:22,308 --> 00:21:25,108 Speaker 11: He really liked him. Trip went to Harvard. 491 00:21:25,628 --> 00:21:28,468 Speaker 13: I went to Harvard, and Dad would always tease me, 492 00:21:28,548 --> 00:21:31,748 Speaker 13: he goes, hey, this guy Trip Hawkins. They at Harvard. 493 00:21:31,788 --> 00:21:34,108 Speaker 13: They let him major in games. Do you get to 494 00:21:34,148 --> 00:21:36,188 Speaker 13: make up your own major? And I'm going no, Dad, 495 00:21:36,188 --> 00:21:39,108 Speaker 13: they gave me like six to choose from. But uh right, 496 00:21:39,788 --> 00:21:42,588 Speaker 13: so you know, but no, he put his faith in Trip, 497 00:21:43,068 --> 00:21:45,388 Speaker 13: and and Trip was kind of the guy that he 498 00:21:45,468 --> 00:21:49,108 Speaker 13: hitched his wagon to. So they had no idea that 499 00:21:49,188 --> 00:21:51,068 Speaker 13: it was going to get to this big and that 500 00:21:51,148 --> 00:21:53,308 Speaker 13: it was going to get to cartridges and all that stuff. 501 00:21:53,308 --> 00:21:55,748 Speaker 13: So they were working on it when it was when 502 00:21:55,828 --> 00:21:58,308 Speaker 13: it was a computer game, and they were just it 503 00:21:58,348 --> 00:22:01,708 Speaker 13: was closer to uh, like Pong and in television. 504 00:22:01,788 --> 00:22:04,988 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's all Mike, first ball. Pleasure to have 505 00:22:05,068 --> 00:22:06,948 Speaker 6: you on here. I have the pleasure of working with 506 00:22:07,028 --> 00:22:09,028 Speaker 6: Nate Newton on the Cowboys platform. So I have to 507 00:22:09,028 --> 00:22:11,028 Speaker 6: say hi on behalf of Nate Newton because I know 508 00:22:11,188 --> 00:22:11,988 Speaker 6: how important your. 509 00:22:11,948 --> 00:22:12,828 Speaker 2: Dad was to him. 510 00:22:13,748 --> 00:22:16,668 Speaker 6: But I have to ask you this Madden has transformed 511 00:22:16,748 --> 00:22:19,028 Speaker 6: obviously the entire industry in terms of video games and 512 00:22:19,428 --> 00:22:22,028 Speaker 6: how much everybody endures it. When did you guys realize 513 00:22:22,068 --> 00:22:23,468 Speaker 6: that this was a major deal? 514 00:22:24,348 --> 00:22:28,268 Speaker 13: So Dad had his coaching career and he won one 515 00:22:28,348 --> 00:22:30,748 Speaker 13: hundred games in ten years, and he won a super 516 00:22:30,748 --> 00:22:34,268 Speaker 13: Bowl and he had the highest winning percentage in NFL history. 517 00:22:34,428 --> 00:22:36,628 Speaker 13: So he thought he was you know, he thought he 518 00:22:36,668 --> 00:22:38,508 Speaker 13: was all set, you know, in life as a coach, 519 00:22:39,108 --> 00:22:42,788 Speaker 13: and then he broke through the paper for light beer 520 00:22:42,828 --> 00:22:46,068 Speaker 13: from Miller and he became the breakthrough the paper guy, you. 521 00:22:46,028 --> 00:22:48,748 Speaker 11: Know, and everybody thought that was his shtick, Hey Madden, 522 00:22:48,788 --> 00:22:49,308 Speaker 11: you know the thing. 523 00:22:49,748 --> 00:22:54,548 Speaker 13: And then after the game came out, he had an 524 00:22:54,588 --> 00:22:58,068 Speaker 13: apartment in New York City and he's like, hey, he goes, 525 00:22:58,148 --> 00:22:59,668 Speaker 13: kids are sticking their heads out. 526 00:22:59,508 --> 00:23:03,108 Speaker 11: Of windows and they're going, hey Madden, Hey Madden. And 527 00:23:03,148 --> 00:23:05,628 Speaker 11: he's like and I'm like, you know, who does how 528 00:23:05,668 --> 00:23:08,548 Speaker 11: do nine year old kids know what the heck's going on? 529 00:23:08,588 --> 00:23:10,668 Speaker 13: And then it took him a little while, took him 530 00:23:10,668 --> 00:23:13,188 Speaker 13: a few weeks or months, and that started happening. 531 00:23:13,228 --> 00:23:14,668 Speaker 11: Sarah getting yelled that is Madden. 532 00:23:14,828 --> 00:23:17,548 Speaker 13: He goes, that's that's because of the video game, and 533 00:23:17,628 --> 00:23:19,308 Speaker 13: he was he was kind of shocked. So he kind 534 00:23:19,308 --> 00:23:21,548 Speaker 13: of had he thought he thought he was famous when 535 00:23:21,548 --> 00:23:25,708 Speaker 13: he was a coach, was Miller lite. And then he 536 00:23:25,748 --> 00:23:28,748 Speaker 13: was really surprised when kids started yelling at him and. 537 00:23:28,628 --> 00:23:33,388 Speaker 3: Calling him Madden, Yeah, generational football impact, Mike. My dad's 538 00:23:33,388 --> 00:23:35,108 Speaker 3: a doctor. If I try to get him to watch 539 00:23:35,468 --> 00:23:37,668 Speaker 3: Er or Gray's Anatomy, He's like, I don't want to 540 00:23:37,708 --> 00:23:39,108 Speaker 3: sit here and do this with you. This is I 541 00:23:39,108 --> 00:23:41,308 Speaker 3: already do this for a living. Did you and your 542 00:23:41,348 --> 00:23:42,668 Speaker 3: family ever play. 543 00:23:42,388 --> 00:23:43,228 Speaker 2: The video game? 544 00:23:43,388 --> 00:23:46,468 Speaker 3: Like, did your dad play his own video game? Or 545 00:23:46,508 --> 00:23:48,268 Speaker 3: is that not something he wanted to do engage in? 546 00:23:48,708 --> 00:23:51,868 Speaker 13: So he was working on this for years with Trip 547 00:23:51,908 --> 00:23:54,628 Speaker 13: and the documentary does a beautiful job of showing that. 548 00:23:54,708 --> 00:23:57,348 Speaker 13: So it had been years in the making, and we 549 00:23:57,388 --> 00:24:00,788 Speaker 13: had a little So this is late eighties, early nineties. 550 00:24:01,548 --> 00:24:03,828 Speaker 13: I played it when it came out on the Sega Genesis, 551 00:24:03,908 --> 00:24:05,588 Speaker 13: but I also got a crack at it a couple 552 00:24:05,628 --> 00:24:09,468 Speaker 13: of years before that, when floppy discs were actually floppy, 553 00:24:09,548 --> 00:24:11,828 Speaker 13: you know. And so we had an Apple two computer 554 00:24:12,348 --> 00:24:14,148 Speaker 13: and he brought home floppy disc He. 555 00:24:14,108 --> 00:24:16,028 Speaker 11: Goes, hey, the game's done. The game's done, you know. 556 00:24:16,068 --> 00:24:18,588 Speaker 11: He was all excited, and so he says, try it out. 557 00:24:19,188 --> 00:24:21,148 Speaker 13: So one morning I wake up and I popped the 558 00:24:21,188 --> 00:24:24,428 Speaker 13: two discs in the in the l Apple two, and 559 00:24:24,468 --> 00:24:26,548 Speaker 13: I've got a manual and all I had was a 560 00:24:26,628 --> 00:24:29,348 Speaker 13: joystick with a button and a single joy stick. 561 00:24:29,908 --> 00:24:31,108 Speaker 11: And this is. 562 00:24:31,028 --> 00:24:34,068 Speaker 13: Like I said, nineteen eighty nine or so, and I 563 00:24:34,188 --> 00:24:36,508 Speaker 13: was one of those kids. I played electric football, I 564 00:24:36,548 --> 00:24:40,228 Speaker 13: played Lombardi Football, so I was you know this stuff. 565 00:24:40,268 --> 00:24:42,308 Speaker 11: So I'm in the manual and I'm like, okay, this 566 00:24:42,348 --> 00:24:43,308 Speaker 11: is Madden Football. 567 00:24:43,628 --> 00:24:46,068 Speaker 13: Dad always started with a little fullback to the left 568 00:24:46,068 --> 00:24:48,348 Speaker 13: to get the game going. And so I takes me 569 00:24:48,388 --> 00:24:52,148 Speaker 13: about twenty minutes to program the first play. So I'm 570 00:24:52,188 --> 00:24:54,388 Speaker 13: here with my joystick. I'm going to run behind our 571 00:24:54,468 --> 00:24:57,308 Speaker 13: shell and gin upshaw and I hit the button and 572 00:24:58,228 --> 00:25:00,068 Speaker 13: you know, some lights blink and. 573 00:25:00,028 --> 00:25:02,068 Speaker 11: I go into the left. It last like one second 574 00:25:02,108 --> 00:25:03,868 Speaker 11: and I get drilled. So I pop up at the 575 00:25:03,908 --> 00:25:08,068 Speaker 11: second eleven. So I'm like, okay, okay, use your gaming experience. 576 00:25:08,388 --> 00:25:10,308 Speaker 11: So I go, okay, I want the defensive guys. 577 00:25:10,308 --> 00:25:11,708 Speaker 13: I want them the hell out of there, so I 578 00:25:11,708 --> 00:25:13,748 Speaker 13: put them in a prevent and then I want to 579 00:25:13,828 --> 00:25:17,068 Speaker 13: run a play where I can manipulate the guy with 580 00:25:17,148 --> 00:25:19,348 Speaker 13: the joystick. So I'm thinking, you know, run a toss 581 00:25:19,388 --> 00:25:21,228 Speaker 13: to the left, you know, Marcus, And then if I 582 00:25:21,468 --> 00:25:24,548 Speaker 13: want to reverse field, I can do that again. Another 583 00:25:24,588 --> 00:25:26,948 Speaker 13: twenty minutes go by, and I'm programming the thing and 584 00:25:27,108 --> 00:25:29,108 Speaker 13: I'm all excited, Okay, this is going to work, and 585 00:25:29,148 --> 00:25:31,908 Speaker 13: I hit the button and there's the blinking toss to 586 00:25:31,948 --> 00:25:33,468 Speaker 13: the left and boom, and I get drilled for a 587 00:25:33,508 --> 00:25:37,428 Speaker 13: four yard loss. And so I quit. I said, you know, 588 00:25:37,508 --> 00:25:40,108 Speaker 13: this thing is a waste of my time. And I 589 00:25:40,188 --> 00:25:42,428 Speaker 13: ran into my dad like five minutes after I quit. 590 00:25:42,468 --> 00:25:44,188 Speaker 13: He says, did you try the game? Did you try 591 00:25:44,228 --> 00:25:46,428 Speaker 13: it out? And I go, yeah, I got dad, your 592 00:25:46,508 --> 00:25:50,748 Speaker 13: game is crap, he goes, and he was heartbroken. 593 00:25:50,868 --> 00:25:51,868 Speaker 11: He goes, well, what do you mean? 594 00:25:51,988 --> 00:25:52,548 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 595 00:25:53,188 --> 00:25:55,868 Speaker 13: I go, Dad, I go, I go, I've played all 596 00:25:55,868 --> 00:25:58,868 Speaker 13: these games, and I put him in a prevent and 597 00:25:58,948 --> 00:26:00,908 Speaker 13: I ran a toss to the left and he goes. 598 00:26:01,188 --> 00:26:03,268 Speaker 13: He goes, you can't run a toss to the left 599 00:26:03,428 --> 00:26:06,148 Speaker 13: against the prevent. You got Charles Haley up there. He's 600 00:26:06,148 --> 00:26:12,348 Speaker 13: gonna run back there. That's exactly what happened. Yeah, he goes, 601 00:26:12,428 --> 00:26:18,628 Speaker 13: the game. The game het crap, You're crap. So that 602 00:26:18,748 --> 00:26:21,068 Speaker 13: was when I realized that he was shooting for a 603 00:26:21,148 --> 00:26:23,668 Speaker 13: higher thing than just being able to run toss against 604 00:26:23,668 --> 00:26:24,228 Speaker 13: the prevent. 605 00:26:24,668 --> 00:26:29,028 Speaker 5: That's amazing, and that's why they created the Ask Madden 606 00:26:29,108 --> 00:26:31,428 Speaker 5: feature in the game because you can just ask him 607 00:26:31,428 --> 00:26:33,468 Speaker 5: and he'll tell you not to run toss against the 608 00:26:33,468 --> 00:26:36,668 Speaker 5: prevawm with Charles Haley Mike, there's a lot of people 609 00:26:36,668 --> 00:26:40,748 Speaker 5: around the country right now who are making actual plans 610 00:26:41,188 --> 00:26:43,788 Speaker 5: to take a chicken and put it inside of a 611 00:26:43,908 --> 00:26:46,348 Speaker 5: duck and then inside of a turkey. We know that 612 00:26:46,468 --> 00:26:48,948 Speaker 5: tur duckan We actually had Greg Olsen on the show 613 00:26:48,988 --> 00:26:51,668 Speaker 5: earlier this week, the great player turned prolific broadcaster. 614 00:26:51,948 --> 00:26:53,668 Speaker 2: He says, they have tur duck in every single year 615 00:26:53,708 --> 00:26:54,628 Speaker 2: in the Olsen family. 616 00:26:55,108 --> 00:26:59,468 Speaker 5: Do the Maddens this day and age have turducan on Thanksgiving? 617 00:27:00,668 --> 00:27:01,588 Speaker 11: Absolutely? 618 00:27:01,628 --> 00:27:06,228 Speaker 12: Well, not not necessarily on Thanksgiving, but you know, but 619 00:27:06,228 --> 00:27:09,428 Speaker 12: by definition Dad was always in Detroit, Dallas, so so 620 00:27:09,468 --> 00:27:13,108 Speaker 12: we always so Thanksgiving was a flexible thing for us. 621 00:27:13,308 --> 00:27:16,068 Speaker 11: But no Glenn down a gourmet butcher block down in 622 00:27:16,068 --> 00:27:16,708 Speaker 11: New Orleans. 623 00:27:16,868 --> 00:27:19,188 Speaker 13: He he called me just last week and he always 624 00:27:19,268 --> 00:27:21,348 Speaker 13: checks with me, and he wants me to make sure 625 00:27:21,388 --> 00:27:23,188 Speaker 13: that I got a turn ducan and I got a 626 00:27:23,268 --> 00:27:27,348 Speaker 13: back up and and he keeps us well stocked. And yes, 627 00:27:27,468 --> 00:27:30,308 Speaker 13: we eat it. We love it. We had the we 628 00:27:30,348 --> 00:27:33,188 Speaker 13: had the stuffed chickens for Sunday. Last last Sunday, we 629 00:27:33,188 --> 00:27:36,028 Speaker 13: were watching football. We had their their stuffed chickens. No, 630 00:27:36,188 --> 00:27:39,388 Speaker 13: we are big fans and uh yes, we enjoyed the 631 00:27:39,388 --> 00:27:40,268 Speaker 13: product very much. 632 00:27:40,708 --> 00:27:42,588 Speaker 4: Hey Mike, if you could hook a brother up, then 633 00:27:42,588 --> 00:27:44,788 Speaker 4: maybe send one. I know we're not that far away 634 00:27:44,788 --> 00:27:47,748 Speaker 4: from each other. Maybe send me one of this famous traduction. 635 00:27:48,068 --> 00:27:50,028 Speaker 4: I'd love to try some. I have not had that 636 00:27:50,188 --> 00:27:52,788 Speaker 4: experience yet, but I do hear that it's pretty good. 637 00:27:53,148 --> 00:27:56,788 Speaker 4: So I'll give you my my mailing address efforts. 638 00:27:57,188 --> 00:27:59,148 Speaker 11: Uh, you got it, you got it. I'll down to 639 00:27:59,188 --> 00:28:01,268 Speaker 11: Glenn and he'll get you. He'll get you, he'll get you, 640 00:28:01,548 --> 00:28:02,908 Speaker 11: He'll get you hooked up right away. 641 00:28:02,988 --> 00:28:03,948 Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good. 642 00:28:04,148 --> 00:28:06,668 Speaker 4: Uh. I want to talk about to your dad's career 643 00:28:07,268 --> 00:28:09,868 Speaker 4: because I know it took on so many different chapters 644 00:28:09,908 --> 00:28:12,268 Speaker 4: like you talked about. We know him as the broadcaster 645 00:28:12,508 --> 00:28:15,188 Speaker 4: and the commercial guy in the video game, but I 646 00:28:15,188 --> 00:28:17,828 Speaker 4: guess outside of his career maybe more to who your 647 00:28:17,868 --> 00:28:20,188 Speaker 4: dad is as a person. It's been about three years 648 00:28:20,188 --> 00:28:22,788 Speaker 4: now since its passing. What do you want people to 649 00:28:22,868 --> 00:28:25,948 Speaker 4: remember about the great coach John Medden? 650 00:28:26,388 --> 00:28:26,868 Speaker 2: You're dead. 651 00:28:28,068 --> 00:28:30,588 Speaker 13: I was afraid when he passed that he would get 652 00:28:30,588 --> 00:28:33,308 Speaker 13: to take on kind of a mythological or like a 653 00:28:33,388 --> 00:28:37,228 Speaker 13: caricature self, you know, thing of himself, and you know, 654 00:28:37,428 --> 00:28:39,468 Speaker 13: he's in the Hall of Fame. He has the highest 655 00:28:39,588 --> 00:28:42,948 Speaker 13: regular season winning percentage of any coach in NFL history. 656 00:28:43,108 --> 00:28:47,308 Speaker 13: He was a brilliant man, and his brilliance showed itself 657 00:28:47,348 --> 00:28:50,988 Speaker 13: in his coaching record. His brilliant showed himself in the 658 00:28:51,348 --> 00:28:54,828 Speaker 13: Emmy Awards that he won, and his brilliance, you know, 659 00:28:54,988 --> 00:28:57,788 Speaker 13: showed and that he had a hand in creating one. 660 00:28:57,708 --> 00:28:59,948 Speaker 11: Of the most popular games in video game history. 661 00:28:59,988 --> 00:29:01,948 Speaker 13: So I was afraid that it was going to be 662 00:29:02,028 --> 00:29:05,908 Speaker 13: Altereduck and talking boom and wap and that, and that 663 00:29:06,028 --> 00:29:08,588 Speaker 13: his brilliance was going to get forgotten. And it hasn't, 664 00:29:08,868 --> 00:29:12,988 Speaker 13: and it's been appreciated and celebrated, and his legacy is 665 00:29:13,028 --> 00:29:17,348 Speaker 13: being carried on and very very I think his memory 666 00:29:17,428 --> 00:29:19,668 Speaker 13: is is he's well represented. 667 00:29:20,868 --> 00:29:23,188 Speaker 5: Well, that's really really well put, Mike, and we appreciate 668 00:29:23,228 --> 00:29:26,068 Speaker 5: you and we respect you personally as well for coming 669 00:29:26,148 --> 00:29:27,908 Speaker 5: on the show and doing what you do. It's in 670 00:29:27,948 --> 00:29:31,628 Speaker 5: the game Madden NFL streaming on Amazon Prime. Who doesn't 671 00:29:31,668 --> 00:29:33,548 Speaker 5: want to watch that, especially this time of year? Go 672 00:29:33,628 --> 00:29:36,108 Speaker 5: check it out in the meantime, Mike Madden, great guy, 673 00:29:36,188 --> 00:29:36,828 Speaker 5: total gentleman. 674 00:29:36,908 --> 00:29:40,348 Speaker 2: We really appreciate you joining us. Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Thanksgiving. 675 00:29:40,388 --> 00:29:43,908 Speaker 11: Me appre Thanksgiving you, thank you, thank you all for 676 00:29:43,908 --> 00:29:46,268 Speaker 11: having me. I appreciate it. 677 00:29:48,148 --> 00:29:49,748 Speaker 2: Look was joining us at the table. 678 00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:54,108 Speaker 3: It's our coach, run rivera thanks Giving. 679 00:29:54,148 --> 00:29:56,308 Speaker 2: Everybody, go to you. 680 00:29:56,588 --> 00:29:58,188 Speaker 3: We were going to talk a lot of other things, 681 00:29:58,228 --> 00:30:00,748 Speaker 3: but as he always does, John Madden just came to 682 00:30:00,788 --> 00:30:04,108 Speaker 3: the table in spirit, and we have to discuss the documentary. 683 00:30:04,148 --> 00:30:07,188 Speaker 3: His was just on, but also your relationship with him 684 00:30:07,228 --> 00:30:09,508 Speaker 3: and what maybe that conversation, because I know you were 685 00:30:09,508 --> 00:30:10,908 Speaker 3: listening what it drummed up for you? 686 00:30:11,108 --> 00:30:12,508 Speaker 2: It drowned up a lot of great memories. 687 00:30:12,548 --> 00:30:14,308 Speaker 14: First of all, just the fact that he's in his 688 00:30:14,388 --> 00:30:17,628 Speaker 14: dad's office in Pleasant in California. I went there a 689 00:30:17,628 --> 00:30:20,188 Speaker 14: couple of times, sit down, visit with coaches. He mentored 690 00:30:20,228 --> 00:30:23,908 Speaker 14: me through my head coaching career. Phenomenal building. It's like 691 00:30:24,268 --> 00:30:26,868 Speaker 14: it is you pay homage to the Raiders when you 692 00:30:26,908 --> 00:30:29,468 Speaker 14: get there. He has a seven man crowlers in the 693 00:30:29,508 --> 00:30:32,308 Speaker 14: parking lot. He told everybody that that's the true story. 694 00:30:32,308 --> 00:30:34,028 Speaker 2: It is true. I saw it. It's an amazing thing. 695 00:30:34,068 --> 00:30:34,588 Speaker 2: It really is. 696 00:30:35,028 --> 00:30:37,548 Speaker 14: And then you see all the memorability when you first 697 00:30:37,588 --> 00:30:39,828 Speaker 14: walk in. I mean, it really is like the Raiders 698 00:30:39,868 --> 00:30:41,708 Speaker 14: Hall of Fame. He's got pictures of all the guys, 699 00:30:41,788 --> 00:30:43,828 Speaker 14: great statues of a lot of the players he's had. 700 00:30:44,308 --> 00:30:46,828 Speaker 14: And then you walk into his office and sure enough, 701 00:30:47,108 --> 00:30:51,308 Speaker 14: he has a video setup with screens to watch all 702 00:30:51,348 --> 00:30:54,188 Speaker 14: the NFL games. It's an amazing thing, it really is. 703 00:30:54,228 --> 00:30:54,908 Speaker 14: It's really cool. 704 00:30:56,628 --> 00:30:58,868 Speaker 5: It's amazing, and we always love talking about Matt in 705 00:30:58,868 --> 00:31:01,308 Speaker 5: this time of the year, especially rom There's so many 706 00:31:01,348 --> 00:31:03,508 Speaker 5: great dignitaries in the league, and so many coaches and 707 00:31:03,508 --> 00:31:06,708 Speaker 5: so many announcers, and yet there is something just that's 708 00:31:06,868 --> 00:31:10,148 Speaker 5: really special and magical about him, especially maybe for a 709 00:31:10,188 --> 00:31:12,668 Speaker 5: young person who wasn't around for it. Can you explain 710 00:31:12,668 --> 00:31:14,868 Speaker 5: what sets him apart from your perspective. 711 00:31:14,468 --> 00:31:16,388 Speaker 14: Well, from my perspective. First of all, you remember that 712 00:31:16,868 --> 00:31:18,708 Speaker 14: I remember he was a great coach. I met him 713 00:31:18,708 --> 00:31:20,588 Speaker 14: when I was sixteen years old, the very first time 714 00:31:20,708 --> 00:31:22,828 Speaker 14: he and his family come down to Monterey to celebrate 715 00:31:22,868 --> 00:31:25,228 Speaker 14: after they just wanted the Super Bowl that year, and 716 00:31:25,628 --> 00:31:28,388 Speaker 14: he was just that iconic. But he was so gracious 717 00:31:28,428 --> 00:31:30,748 Speaker 14: to me, and then I never forgot it, and then 718 00:31:30,788 --> 00:31:35,108 Speaker 14: we developed this relationship as a player and as a broadcaster, 719 00:31:35,308 --> 00:31:37,988 Speaker 14: and so every time we played, he would always get. 720 00:31:37,828 --> 00:31:39,948 Speaker 2: A chance to visit with me. That was always really cool. 721 00:31:40,148 --> 00:31:41,868 Speaker 14: And then as I became a head coach, I needed 722 00:31:41,908 --> 00:31:43,868 Speaker 14: a mentor somebody to help me get over the hump. 723 00:31:44,028 --> 00:31:45,388 Speaker 2: It was John madd and lo and. 724 00:31:45,308 --> 00:31:47,588 Speaker 14: Behold, and he was so gracious with this time and 725 00:31:47,668 --> 00:31:50,348 Speaker 14: treated me so I mean so eloquently. It just made 726 00:31:50,388 --> 00:31:52,108 Speaker 14: me feel great. So every time I see him, every 727 00:31:52,108 --> 00:31:54,308 Speaker 14: time I got an opportunity to visit with him, I did. 728 00:31:54,628 --> 00:31:56,268 Speaker 14: And then I got to know Mike a little bit 729 00:31:57,028 --> 00:32:00,068 Speaker 14: and we've become friends and hopefully we'll get an opportunity 730 00:32:00,068 --> 00:32:02,348 Speaker 14: to visit again this you know, sometime when I'm back 731 00:32:02,428 --> 00:32:04,828 Speaker 14: up in monitoring. He's in minor as well. But just 732 00:32:05,388 --> 00:32:08,748 Speaker 14: those memories were just an amazing thing. And as you 733 00:32:08,748 --> 00:32:11,028 Speaker 14: guys talked with him, I thought that was a tremendous interview. 734 00:32:11,028 --> 00:32:12,588 Speaker 2: I really did. I was really excited about. 735 00:32:13,068 --> 00:32:16,308 Speaker 4: Where did coach Madden's history come from? Uh, you know, 736 00:32:16,388 --> 00:32:19,748 Speaker 4: you hear about the you know the trees and coaches 737 00:32:19,828 --> 00:32:22,268 Speaker 4: tree and stuff like. Where did John Madden like where 738 00:32:22,308 --> 00:32:23,828 Speaker 4: was his biggest influence? 739 00:32:24,268 --> 00:32:27,548 Speaker 14: I think his biggest influence was an overall mentor the 740 00:32:27,548 --> 00:32:29,828 Speaker 14: people that he worked with, the people that he helped. 741 00:32:30,108 --> 00:32:32,228 Speaker 14: Andy Reid is one of his one of his mentees. 742 00:32:32,388 --> 00:32:34,068 Speaker 14: I mean, if you talk to coach read about he'll 743 00:32:34,068 --> 00:32:36,148 Speaker 14: tell you they used to talk all the time and 744 00:32:36,228 --> 00:32:39,868 Speaker 14: about some of the craziest things they talked about, you know, diners, 745 00:32:40,028 --> 00:32:41,508 Speaker 14: drives and drive through. 746 00:32:41,468 --> 00:32:42,068 Speaker 2: Or whatever stuff. 747 00:32:43,828 --> 00:32:46,788 Speaker 14: Yeah, they always talk about those different restaurants that were 748 00:32:46,788 --> 00:32:50,028 Speaker 14: on TV. And it was a hilarious conversation to listen 749 00:32:50,068 --> 00:32:51,188 Speaker 14: to him talk to coach about it. 750 00:32:51,108 --> 00:32:52,188 Speaker 2: It was it was really fun. 751 00:32:52,308 --> 00:32:54,348 Speaker 6: And Coach, what was the most impactful If you can 752 00:32:54,388 --> 00:32:56,388 Speaker 6: even pick one thing, as you know obviously you were 753 00:32:56,388 --> 00:32:58,508 Speaker 6: Coach Madden being your mentor or a coach that's had 754 00:32:58,508 --> 00:33:00,628 Speaker 6: an impact on your life. What's one thing that really 755 00:33:00,668 --> 00:33:02,188 Speaker 6: sticks with you when you think about his memory and 756 00:33:02,228 --> 00:33:03,388 Speaker 6: how he impacted your life. 757 00:33:03,508 --> 00:33:06,068 Speaker 14: There's two things. One is he's the guy that created 758 00:33:06,148 --> 00:33:08,988 Speaker 14: Riverboat Ron inadvertently getting me to. 759 00:33:09,228 --> 00:33:11,028 Speaker 2: How important it was used the fourth down. 760 00:33:11,068 --> 00:33:13,948 Speaker 14: No, Kyle, it's a tremendous story he and I talked 761 00:33:13,988 --> 00:33:16,748 Speaker 14: about at one point my first two years of my career, 762 00:33:16,828 --> 00:33:18,908 Speaker 14: I was three and thirteen in games decided by six 763 00:33:18,988 --> 00:33:21,188 Speaker 14: points or less, and most of those games were lost 764 00:33:21,228 --> 00:33:23,588 Speaker 14: in the fourth quarter, and most of those games were 765 00:33:23,588 --> 00:33:26,308 Speaker 14: lost because on fourth down, I did what was safe, 766 00:33:26,348 --> 00:33:28,348 Speaker 14: and that was I kicked the ball, either punted it 767 00:33:28,628 --> 00:33:31,108 Speaker 14: or I kicked the field goal. He made me understand 768 00:33:31,148 --> 00:33:35,028 Speaker 14: how important it is to go for it situation. 769 00:33:35,228 --> 00:33:36,988 Speaker 3: Yeah, how much of a flex it is for someone 770 00:33:37,108 --> 00:33:39,508 Speaker 3: just to say I needed a mentor, and John Madden 771 00:33:39,588 --> 00:33:40,508 Speaker 3: became my mentor. 772 00:33:40,628 --> 00:33:41,868 Speaker 2: Like, that's not just the thing. 773 00:33:42,988 --> 00:33:44,468 Speaker 3: How you had to work at that and you had 774 00:33:44,468 --> 00:33:47,388 Speaker 3: to establish a relationship. And that's really really amazing that 775 00:33:47,388 --> 00:33:48,348 Speaker 3: that's a thing. 776 00:33:48,228 --> 00:33:48,708 Speaker 14: In your life. 777 00:33:48,788 --> 00:33:49,388 Speaker 2: It's really cool. 778 00:33:49,388 --> 00:33:51,148 Speaker 14: And the cool thing about it is I've got notes 779 00:33:51,308 --> 00:33:53,268 Speaker 14: from all those times that he and I talked on 780 00:33:53,308 --> 00:33:56,308 Speaker 14: the telephone, he and I talked in person. I was 781 00:33:56,308 --> 00:33:59,268 Speaker 14: fortunate enough that he had me on the Madden Coaches Committee, 782 00:33:59,268 --> 00:34:00,668 Speaker 14: which is a big thing, and it was a big 783 00:34:00,668 --> 00:34:02,148 Speaker 14: honor to be on part of that, and that was 784 00:34:02,268 --> 00:34:03,428 Speaker 14: that was a tremendous thing too. 785 00:34:03,708 --> 00:34:06,708 Speaker 3: Riverboat RN on at the table. Everybody, of course, has 786 00:34:06,708 --> 00:34:08,708 Speaker 3: to talk to John Madden on Thanksgiving week. 787 00:34:09,348 --> 00:34:10,268 Speaker 2: We appreciate your coach. 788 00:34:10,668 --> 00:34:13,628 Speaker 3: Always a pleasure