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Speaker 2: We go here, we go on the Giants Let's Go

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Speaker 2: Special Teams Day.

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Speaker 1: On this episode of The Giants Little Podcast, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk to the Giants three specialists, Graham Gano, Casey Crider,

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Speaker 1: and Jamie Gillen. Of course, Graham Gano is a veteran placekicker,

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Speaker 1: mister reliable, been in the league for a very long time.

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Speaker 1: Jamie Gillen enters as the Giants punter this year, second

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Speaker 1: year for him. And then you have Casey Crider, the

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Speaker 1: Giants veteran long staff who does a really good job.

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Speaker 1: And you know, those guys are a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: I had fun talking to him about special teams, and

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Speaker 1: I think I asked him interesting questions, But I'll let

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Speaker 1: you be the judge of that. We're gonna lead off first.

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Speaker 1: Let's go Jamie Gillen. He'll be first up here, the

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Speaker 1: Giants punter right here on The Giants Little Podcast. Now

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Speaker 1: we're joined by Giants punter Jamie Gillan, Jamie, how are

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Speaker 1: you man?

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Speaker 3: Good? How you doing good?

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Speaker 2: What was your off season like? Did you go back

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Speaker 2: home at all? Oh? What would you do?

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Speaker 3: I didn't go back home and went to back to Cleveland,

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Speaker 3: packed up some stuff and found the place to live

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Speaker 3: out here, which was a little harder than usual.

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Speaker 2: But the market's not great.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's crazy around here. So it was good. Got

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Speaker 3: the fan band together. Just had our first kid three

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Speaker 2: Congratulations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're everything's kind of coming together.

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Speaker 2: You don't look that tired too bad. Yeah, I've wanted

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Speaker 2: it along.

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Speaker 1: Jege, Trusty, I get it. It's it's it's it's fun,

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Speaker 1: but it's a challenge.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's awesome. Man.

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Speaker 1: So now that you've been just a second, you were

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Speaker 1: tea mac Now, I'm sure he gave you, you know,

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Speaker 1: homework assignments or whatever one when you left in January.

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Speaker 1: What were some of the things that he wanted you

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Speaker 1: to work on and that you were trying to work

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Speaker 1: on while you were away before you know, Ota started?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, the same stuff that we've we always talk about

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Speaker 3: just being consistent as a punter. You know, if you

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Speaker 3: where you want to do it. Definitely working on our

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Speaker 3: on a couple last year that we could have back.

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Speaker 3: But just always talking about fundamentals in the process. A

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Speaker 3: big word he uses kais in which is the act

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Speaker 3: of continuous improvement. As he says, so just fundamentals for me,

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Speaker 3: and the process is huge, which is little things catching

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Speaker 2: What's your goal? That's a good question.

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Speaker 1: If you're trying to pin a team right, you're keep

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Speaker 1: putting from your own you know they're forty five and

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Speaker 1: you can put it where you want, right.

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Speaker 2: It's not a distance issue, it's a placement.

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Speaker 1: Issue, like where are you happy if a guy catches

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Speaker 1: a fair catch, If he catches it the nine, is

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Speaker 2: What's your goal?

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Speaker 3: My goal is always between the ten and eight yard line, okay,

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Speaker 3: And if they let it drop, then our gunners should

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Speaker 3: Obviously everybody wants to get the punt inside the five,

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Speaker 2: No, I think that makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: How much do you work on the alternate punts for

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Speaker 3: I work on it. It makes it a little bit

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Speaker 3: so they get to this, like have a situations or

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Speaker 3: certain things that as I'm learning over the years, is

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Speaker 1: I imagine like game situation and score two is part

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Speaker 2: A chance on something like that, right exactly. That's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Talk about the mechanics now, second year with Casey is

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Speaker 1: the long snapper, gono as your field goal kicker, as

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Speaker 1: of where are you guys with all that?

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Speaker 3: Same as last year. We as you've seen us three

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Speaker 3: like to hang out. We're always talking about it. We

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Speaker 3: take we hold each other account and both for everything

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Speaker 3: and just making sure Graham's happy of what's going on,

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Speaker 3: because in the field goal that's the most important part.

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Speaker 3: So me and Casey work together all the time and

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Speaker 3: that kind of stuff and all seems to be good.

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Speaker 3: But you know, we'll see what happens when training camp

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Speaker 3: comes in. But it's kind of like riding a bike.

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Speaker 3: Once it's all back together, your your your cruis and you.

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Speaker 2: Know Jamie good stuff man. Always bleasure talking to him again.

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Speaker 3: Thanks mate.

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Speaker 2: Now we're joined by Giants long snapper Casey Krider, Casey

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Speaker 2: Howry Man.

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Speaker 4: I'm great. That's nice to be chatting again.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So I was your off season, man, what you do?

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Speaker 6: It was good And we didn't have to move this

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Speaker 6: we've moved in houses between Iowa and New Jersey.

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Speaker 4: So that was nice.

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Speaker 6: But but it was it was a good off season,

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Speaker 6: got some good training in and spend some time with

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Speaker 2: You still have a place back in Iowa.

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Speaker 6: No, we we would up selling that last year. That

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Speaker 6: was the big transition last year obviously going on four

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Speaker 6: time New Jersey residents now.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Unfortunately that comes with the state taxes, which we

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Speaker 1: could talk about that. But how of you kind of

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Speaker 1: approach this year now that you've kind of found some

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Speaker 6: I think every year is just about improving what you

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Speaker 6: can improve on and if and if you're not, obviously

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Speaker 6: you're you're losing what you've built.

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Speaker 4: So I'm just excited.

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Speaker 6: I think we started doing a couple of things different

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Speaker 6: kind of throwing some wrinkles in and we were tested

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Speaker 6: in a lot of different areas on special teams, and

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Speaker 6: I think we're excited to see see where the game

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Speaker 1: For the untrained eye, for fans, you talk about some wrinkles,

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Speaker 1: it's just something what are some of the things they

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Speaker 6: I think I think towards the back half of the

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Speaker 4: Things I do. You know, we kind of just threw

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Speaker 6: Wrinkles here and there, maybe to make it look like something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: always hard, you know, teams like ninety guys here, you

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Speaker 1: So just talk to me a little bit about the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's just more about getting to know

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Speaker 4: And I think this is the time of year where

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Speaker 6: You work on your techniques and you learn the scheme

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Speaker 6: and you get the young guys in here. But more

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Speaker 1: Where have you seen progress from from Jamie as he's

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Speaker 1: here with the Giants for a second year trying to

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Speaker 1: work on some of his craft.

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Speaker 6: I think it's it's Jamie is awesome. He works hard,

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Speaker 6: it's it's just about him doing what he does best,

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Speaker 4: What we have and what we're good at. But I

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Speaker 1: You know, working with Graham, I know he works hard

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Speaker 2: Casey, good stuff man, best luck this year. Thanks so much,

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: We talked to Casey, we talked to Jamie, and now

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Speaker 2: Graham, how way Man doing well? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So how are how have you kind of treated this

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Speaker 1: How have you kind of paced yourself in the off

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's definitely a gradual increase as we approach training

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Speaker 2: That just take a few weeks off and start back up.

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Speaker 1: You know, Casey said, your group does a really good

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Speaker 2: Graham, good stuff, man. Always fun talking to your brother.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Go Giants and we think Graham Gano.

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Speaker 1: It was always fun talking to a great dude, Libel kicker,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us for the special Teams edition of

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Speaker 1: the Giants Soto Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm John Schmelk. We will see you next time. Everybody