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Speaker 1: Superior character, obviously, I try hard, made of stronger stuff.

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Speaker 3: Must be that healthy diet of yours.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I've got a pretty good immune system

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Speaker 1: You could be well, you're you're just at the tail

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna start calling people ship mittens. This is great.

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Speaker 1: My brother bruise beer and it's so good. He's actually

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Speaker 1: got the cooler with two taps, and anytime we visit

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Speaker 1: his house he has home brewed beer in kegs on tap. Wow,

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Speaker 1: icy cold on his patio. It's ridiculous. Oh, it's although.

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Speaker 1: If I lived like that, I would be a flaming

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Speaker 1: alcoholic in three hundred and seventy five pounds, And what

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Speaker 1: if there's a downside, But I'd be happy and I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be thinking about my problems, and people would be

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Speaker 1: more interesting. But bread might be at the top of

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Speaker 1: the list. Beer is close, I say, cookies. And I'm

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Speaker 1: a bit of a purest, maybe a bit of a

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Speaker 1: pain in the ass. I know that's hard to imagine.

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Speaker 1: I will not eat store bought cookies. I just I

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Speaker 1: won't because the calories and the taste. No.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh those cookies that I sent you guys, the

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Speaker 5: picture of of her break that I made. They were

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Speaker 5: so I know homemade cookie is it's it's just it's

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Speaker 5: like sex, it's so good.

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Speaker 2: I grew up in Wisconsin with a lot of homemade butter,

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Speaker 2: and homemade butter is just so much better than in

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Speaker 2: the store. It's like a different thing.

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Speaker 1: You put each brother. I wouldn't know if you.

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Speaker 2: Put homemade, and I had forgotten how good it was.

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Speaker 2: So this field trip my son went on to a

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Speaker 2: couple of years ago, they churn buttered. They I spent

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Speaker 2: more time churning than the kids did, but as I

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Speaker 2: was one of the chaperones, but I churned up exactly

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Speaker 2: their weedy little arms. I turned up the butter, and

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Speaker 2: I'd forgotten how good it is. You put homemade butter

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Speaker 2: on homemade bread and you have a flip and treat

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Speaker 2: right there.

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Speaker 3: That sounds wonderful.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, I'm just I'm in the process of trying

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Speaker 5: to make sour dough bread because that's my favorite, oh

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Speaker 5: of life, and I haven't I haven't gotten it down

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Speaker 5: yet because it's complicated.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we missed the whole but getting a starter

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Speaker 1: going during COVID thing I wish we had. Yeah, Jack,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there are semi overpriced like electric butter schurns

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Speaker 1: you can get from you know, Sharper.

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Speaker 2: Pilot. We did it the old timey away with a

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Speaker 2: look like the thing you've seen in old timey movies

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Speaker 2: with a stick in a cylinder with a hole on

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Speaker 2: the top. It kind of looks a little sexual. But

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're doing this thing.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, homemade butter, that's that's what you gotta add.

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Speaker 2: You have homemade bread with homemade butter. Oh, got to

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Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking at how to make homemade butter and it

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Speaker 5: doesn't look that difficult, it's at all.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna try it today.

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Speaker 2: Do it, yeah, and then report back.

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Speaker 1: Oh so good, get me a tub.

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Speaker 2: Not that sort of stuff. The ship mittens sell over

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Speaker 2: there at the store.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I know it, I know it.

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Speaker 4: My mom breaks My mom bakes bread and she's the

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Speaker 4: sweetest woman ever, but when her yeast doesn't rise, f

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Speaker 4: bombs there.

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Speaker 1: Stay out of the kitchen. Man danger danger.

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Speaker 4: Well, I guess that's it.

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Speaker 3: Ship mintens is my new favorite thing.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one.

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Speaker 3: The world.

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Speaker 1: Get your ship mittens off my bread, she said,