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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: The most disappointing part of the super Bowl was definitely

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Speaker 1: the halftime show.

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Speaker 2: It was really bad. Who would you pick? Well, it's

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Speaker 2: sorry to cut you off, but if I told you

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Speaker 2: right now you are in charge of the super Bowl

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Speaker 2: halftime show, which is typically the most watched part of

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Speaker 2: the super Bowl, who would you say should be the

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Speaker 2: artist that would appeal to the largest possible audience and

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Speaker 2: do the best possible job. Is there anybody that I've

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Speaker 2: got two I that come to mind for me? Is

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Speaker 2: there anybody that comes to mind for you? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: There are safe There are safe choices. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think you could have. I think you'd have you two

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Speaker 1: do it and they would put on a good show

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Speaker 1: and nobody. You know, some of you're gonna make fun

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Speaker 1: of me, but producer Mark is with me. You could

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Speaker 1: have he knows cold Play.

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Speaker 2: You know. It would be kind of a think some

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Speaker 2: of these guys have done it to be fair? Okay, right?

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Speaker 1: I see I don't remember, but you know, people of

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Speaker 1: There are some other names that I would have put

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Speaker 1: in the mix from the hip hop community, but lately

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Speaker 1: they're they're having some legal troubles, so I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna have I you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think I don't have to say who, but I think

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Speaker 1: we all know there's some very big names from the

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Speaker 1: hip hop world that are having a tough one legally.

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Speaker 1: That's putting it mildly. So I think that those would

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Speaker 1: be you know, this is the thing, it's like, what

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Speaker 1: are you gonna give me?

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Speaker 2: Ones that have I mean have the Foo Fighters?

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Speaker 1: Are people great question? As Christopher Walkin says, the Foo Fighters. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So I would know. I would go Taylor Swift, and

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Speaker 1: I understand some of the.

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Speaker 2: Ah claim. She has a huge she has a huge

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Speaker 2: a record list, everybody knows her songs. I am of

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Speaker 2: the opinion that she has awful politics. But if politics

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Speaker 2: is your determining factor for who to put out there,

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Speaker 2: I would say that, you know, ninety percent of musicians

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Speaker 2: are out the window. How about secondarily, Morgan Wallan, Morgan

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Speaker 2: Wallan's been selling out stadiums everywhere. I think he would

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Speaker 2: kill it. A lot of people know his songs, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know has Dave Matthews band ever done the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. If you want a completely inoffensive musical guest

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Speaker 2: that has sold out stadiums historically, there are three different performers.

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Speaker 2: I also think this rap in general doesn't translate very

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Speaker 2: well to stadiums. Kendrick Lamar was awful, but it is

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Speaker 2: It is a challenge of rap that it isn't that

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Speaker 2: easy to watch it in the same way as a band,

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Speaker 2: as a truly electric singer and and and someone of

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Speaker 1: I mean I would I would love to see Bob

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Speaker 1: Moses do it, but not big enough probably, so that.

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Speaker 2: Was a I think that's the last. I don't even

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Speaker 2: know who Bob Moses is.

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Speaker 1: Dude, you should throw some Bob Moses on. They're actually Canadian.

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Speaker 1: They moved to New York and because of Robert Moses,

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Speaker 1: of their band. They named it after Robert Moses. Was

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Speaker 1: built like the you know, the highways and the bridges

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Speaker 1: and all these different things, So yeah, that was that

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Speaker 1: love to see rufus dusoul do it. But again, this

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Speaker 1: the stuff that I would want to see. And a

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Speaker 1: lot of you are like, who are those people? So

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Speaker 1: I understand they're not big enough, but be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: I'd never heard of Kendrick Lamar song in my life.

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Speaker 1: And I'm actually pretty familiar as a kid who grew

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Speaker 2: You didn't know anything about the Drake feud, not like

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Speaker 2: us lawsuits. No, no, for me, I'm actually surprised that

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Speaker 2: you could just miss the news angle of the Black

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Speaker 2: Keys ever done the Super Bowl? They would be very good.

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Speaker 2: Ever done the Super Bowl? They'd be very good. People

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Speaker 1: It'd be a big, big opportunity. You know, there's all

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Speaker 1: these ideas, but again, this is like the music of

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Speaker 1: mine and your jet. Well my generation, I can't speak

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Speaker 1: for yours. But all right, so what would you say

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Speaker 1: on a one to ten? We're gonna talk about this

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Speaker 1: commercial that I thought was the worst?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Was there anything that made you laugh in the commercials?

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Speaker 2: Did you know? Before we get to negative? Was there

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Speaker 1: No? I mean, look, I was I had a lot

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I watched every single but most

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Speaker 2: Yes, plus whatever it costs, that's just how much it

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Speaker 2: costs to err it. So I mean, they're spending fifteen

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Speaker 1: I mean I thought, I thought that the ads that

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Speaker 1: not a memorable ad. I don't know what happened to

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Speaker 2: This is the one.

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Speaker 1: This is the ad that I did see live and

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Speaker 1: I did remember, and it is the NFL airing a

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Speaker 1: women's flag a pro women's flag football ad. Now we're

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Speaker 1: not going to air because if you don't see the video,

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Speaker 1: the audio is not worth it.

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Speaker 2: But we can describe it, right.

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Speaker 1: So it's a it's a it's a minority woman football

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Speaker 1: player who is up against a bunch of white guys.

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Speaker 2: Named like Chad and Brad and Chad and Brad.

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Speaker 1: And they're all white and she, you know, schools all

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Speaker 1: at the end they're like, make flag football varsity sport

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Speaker 2: All they're doing?

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Speaker 1: It's a commercial, I get that. Why, you know, there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of undertones in that commercial I didn't

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Speaker 1: really like. But the one that's the most bizarre is no,

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Speaker 1: like athletic looking guys named Brad and Chad would actually

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Nike ran an ad that was basically like, oh,

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Speaker 2: because of sexism, we have like no ability to win

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Speaker 2: I'm so, and I think the vast majority of you,

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Speaker 2: girl power yay era. If you're a woman, I want

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Speaker 2: you to be as successful as you possibly can. If

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Speaker 2: as you possibly can, but cheering for you because of

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Speaker 2: your gender. This also just happened at ESPN this identity politics.

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Speaker 2: ESPN on social media shared a picture of Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 2: and said black excellence. It's not black excellence, it's just excellence. Everyone, white, Black, Asian,

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Speaker 2: and Hispanic should aspire to excellence in all facets of

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Speaker 2: gender is I think a sign first of all of

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Speaker 2: identity politics wokeism. But secondly, it makes you seem inferior

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Speaker 2: as if that is rare. Right. I don't presume that

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Speaker 2: makes you look inferior because it's trying to celebrate you

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Speaker 2: for doing something that most people that look like you

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Speaker 2: do not do. But actually that's all of athletics. Most

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Speaker 2: could have. That's what athletics is, right, It's the ultimate meritocracy.

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Speaker 2: To then reduce you if your jalen hurts to the

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Speaker 2: color of your skin when it comes to your achievement,

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Speaker 2: actually diminishes what you've achieved. In my world, and the

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Speaker 2: same thing buck when I watch that ad. I think

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Speaker 2: encouraging girls to play flag football is a really good

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Speaker 2: idea personally. I've coached flag football. My boys all played

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Speaker 2: flag football because we didn't want to put them in

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Speaker 2: But the idea that you have to sell me on

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Speaker 2: this at boys, that's a lie. It's just not true.

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Speaker 2: There is no girl or woman that is better in

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Speaker 2: on the idea that they are better than the men are,

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Speaker 2: They're never going to be better than the men. You

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Speaker 2: men should compete against men and women should compete against women.

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Speaker 2: And I just the NFL totally missed the mark to

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Speaker 2: say nothing of oh minority girl hero Slay Coin. Oh look,

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Speaker 2: Chad and Brad are white guys and they suck and

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Speaker 2: they can't achieve anything. I mean, it's just racist and

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Speaker 2: it's actually demeaning to everyone. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a shockingly tone deaf and stupid

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Speaker 1: commercial from the NFL, But then again, it was a

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Speaker 1: shockingly horrible and stupid halftime show that the commissioner approved.

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Speaker 1: I saw someone on Twitter say that the commissioner should

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Speaker 1: be fired.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you can't, if you can't be trusted

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Speaker 1: to make sure that the super Bowl halftime show isn't

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Speaker 1: isn't a travesty. Why are you making forty million dollars

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Speaker 1: a year as the super Bowl coming.

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Speaker 2: When you and I are seventy, We're gonna have no

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Speaker 2: idea whether the super Bowl halftime show is any good

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Speaker 2: at all, Like, unless you're bringing somebody who's around our

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Speaker 2: age that we knew as a talented musician. How many

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Speaker 2: grandpas and grandma's are really plugged in with what sixteen

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Speaker 2: the super Bowl halftime show is it should have a

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Speaker 2: mass appeal, Like Beyonce is fine, Rihanna is fine, Coldplay

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Speaker 2: and Bucks. I think a lot of what's going to

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that Jefferson wasn't an amazing polymath who

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Speaker 1: debate about was he a communist or was he a socialist?

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Speaker 1: He definitely was into social justice, and I think tenets

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Speaker 1: of socialism and the communism angle, or the surveillance of

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Speaker 1: Martin Lutheran juniorists as a sympathetic to communism is always

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Speaker 1: taken out of the context of the communist penetration. This

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Speaker 1: is sort of separate from, but related to, the communist

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Speaker 1: penetration of the United States government was far more severe

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Speaker 1: at a far bigger threat than the Democrat Party then

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Speaker 1: and now is willing to discuss and believe and allow

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Speaker 1: people to know. And the Communist Party USA was a

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Speaker 1: real thing, and there were ties to Moscow and the

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Speaker 1: Soviet Union, you know, just the way you read the

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Speaker 1: history of Mao and China, for example, the entire Chinese

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Speaker 1: Communist project was effectively a laboratory experiment run by the

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Speaker 1: Soviets out of Moscow. The whole thing was backed finance

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Speaker 1: directed by and that's now the law ardest country in

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Speaker 1: the world and the largest communist country in history. So

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Speaker 1: they had a playbook for this stuff. Now, it didn't

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Speaker 1: work in this country, but they were trying to do

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Speaker 1: similar things. Go read about the Venona Project, high level

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Speaker 1: penetrations of the United States government, top secret military cable

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Speaker 1: intercepts proving this beyond doubt. Algerr Hits was a spy.

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Speaker 1: There's all this stuff. So were they a little too

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Speaker 1: over zealous in their surveillance of doctor King as a

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Speaker 1: communist or a communist sympathizer? Sure? But was communism actually

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Speaker 1: a real problem and not some you know, make believe

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Speaker 1: ghost in the background? Yeah, it actually was. So that's

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Speaker 1: my little spiel on that one.

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Speaker 2: We'll take some of your calls, a bunch of you

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Speaker 2: want to weigh in close out the hour. Also, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna have some fun. Buck's gonna have to hop out

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Speaker 2: in the third out of just FYI so he can

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Speaker 2: get back to so he can get back to Miami

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Speaker 2: from Vegas. But we have been laughing. We've been talking

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Speaker 2: about it off air. The flute memes that you guys

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Speaker 2: have created of me that is up on AI. I

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Speaker 2: can't even keep up with all of them. We're going

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Speaker 2: to have some fun h discussing some of that. It's Friday,

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Speaker 2: and we'll take some of your calls about MLKJFK RFK

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Speaker 2: assassination reports. By the way, if you sign off on that,

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Speaker 2: do you think the MLK file might have the most

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Speaker 2: interesting and or significant revelations compared to the other files

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Speaker 2: or do you think.

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Speaker 1: There's because of the politics and the government embarrassment around that.

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Speaker 1: I think the JFK files are going to be a

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Speaker 1: nothing burger. Don't yell at me, everybody, We'll see before

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Speaker 1: you yell at me, just remember I'll remember all those

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Speaker 1: of you on Twitter yelling at me. And if I'm right,

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Speaker 1: the Buckster is coming back for you. Sunday hang is

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Speaker 2: Sundays with Clay and Buck fuck out in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: How has the shot show been? You're out there? I

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Speaker 2: know a bunch of our listeners probably have been there before,

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Speaker 2: or we'll be watching videos about products and everything else.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm actually curious, how big is this thing?

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Speaker 2: Is it in a convention center? What's it like?

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Speaker 1: I had never been before and people were shocked for

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Speaker 1: many years. Now, what do you mean you've never been

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Speaker 1: to a shot show. It's an incredible event. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: not really open to the public. It's for people in

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Speaker 1: the industry or industry adjacent, you know, if you're somebody

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Speaker 1: who is partnered up like we have with a great

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Speaker 1: firearms company, Bear Creek Arsenal. I also saw our friends

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Speaker 1: at Saber, who make the best non lethal and home

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Speaker 1: defense products you'll find absolutely anywhere in the market. And

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Speaker 1: I saw our friends at Rapid Radios. So it's great

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Speaker 1: to see so many of these companies. So there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of sort of smaller but innovative companies that are there.

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Speaker 1: You got the big names, I mean, the big firearms makers.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. I was talking to a couple of our

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Speaker 1: friends from a radio world Clay yesterday said, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that Bretta is the oldest continuing operation company

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Speaker 1: in the world right now. You know Bretta, which I

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Speaker 1: have a shotgun from Barretta and.

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Speaker 2: I think there's Fretta like how long would the how old.

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Speaker 1: I was say, I thought it was some sixteen hundreds

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Speaker 1: actually from the fifteen hundreds, that's how old that company is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so started in Italy in fifteen something or other. So

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Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty amazing just the heritage of all these

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Speaker 1: different men, you know, fires manufacturers, great American ones like

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Speaker 1: in Winchester and Smith and Wesson. So it's a really

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Speaker 1: cool event and it's great also so many of our people.

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Speaker 1: I was stopped by so many of our people walking

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Speaker 1: around who It's kind of funny because I was, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a huge mass of folks like wait a second.

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Speaker 1: They always there's always this mom of like could that

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Speaker 1: be Buck Sexton? And I'd hear someone say this and

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Speaker 1: I was like, yes, yes, I just walk around dressed

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Speaker 1: like I'm on a camping trip like everybody else here.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. The shot show uniform is like like

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Speaker 1: cargo or tactical pants and either a tactical polo or

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Speaker 1: like fleece. You know a lot of that.

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Speaker 2: What is the expectation in the gun related industry and

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Speaker 2: guns of what the Trump election is going to mean

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Speaker 2: for them and their products, because obviously sometimes it's counterintuitive,

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Speaker 2: like Obama gets elected or by if Kamala had one,

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Speaker 2: I bet the number of people that would have been

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Speaker 2: buying guns in November and December would have been off

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Speaker 2: the charts. I'm just kind of curious what the expectation

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Speaker 2: is with Trump in office.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'd say generally what you're saying is

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Speaker 1: has been the case where both Obama and Biden were

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Speaker 1: really national gun Salesmen of the year. Yes, they just

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Speaker 1: people realize because especially if you want certain rifles. You know,

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Speaker 1: I saw a rifle yesterday, Clay. It was an AR

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Speaker 1: fifteen rifle that had a bolt action lever in it,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, what is that. I've never seen

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Speaker 1: that before. Oh, that's an Illinois State of Illinois approved AR.

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Speaker 2: Right, So because otherwise you're shooting too fast and then

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Speaker 2: closed it down.

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Speaker 1: It's intention to just slow it down and make it

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Speaker 1: more cumbersome. There's no other reasons. I think what we'll

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Speaker 1: see is the cultural shift we've talked about. I think

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Speaker 1: that gun owners and gun rights and I think it's

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Speaker 1: never been more mainstream, never been a more robust community.

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Speaker 1: And I think people feel very sort of bullish about

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Speaker 1: about the future, and it was really everybody a lot

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Speaker 1: of Trump voters at shot show. That's maybe one way,

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Speaker 1: so they were to really they're looking at cool new

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Speaker 1: guns and stuff, and they were all in a in

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Speaker 1: a very good mood. So it was a really really

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Speaker 1: good event. I'm glad that it was able to be

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Speaker 1: out here and see some of our people.

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Speaker 2: Sunday Drop with Clay and Bucks the worst song that

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Speaker 2: I have heard in a long time. People say, why

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Speaker 2: in the world are young voters coming around and ending

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Speaker 2: up supporting Trump and Republicans more so than in the past.

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Speaker 2: I would argue Buck, one of the reasons is because

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Speaker 2: so many leftists are just complete and total dorks. Listen

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Speaker 2: to this song and tell me that this is now

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Speaker 2: the perfect representation of a left wing woman.

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Speaker 3: Black Indigenous people love color. Black and Indigenous people love color.

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Speaker 3: Lesbian gay Bye, transgender queer lesbian gay bye, transgender queer.

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Speaker 3: Asian American Pacific Carlander, Asian American Facific Carlander, Latino Hispanic

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Speaker 3: Ramanei and Creole Latino Hispanic.

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Speaker 1: This is the Remember it's going to turn off the radio.

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Speaker 1: We gotta stop. I just want to say to everybody,

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Speaker 1: with your with your amazing AI, do not put Clay

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Speaker 1: shirtless playing the flute with that music in the background online.

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Speaker 1: Do not do that.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, welcome to my mentions for the rest of

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Speaker 2: the weekend. That is, I do think indicative of kind

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Speaker 2: of the vibe, for lack of a better word, of

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Speaker 2: what left wing ideology has led to. And do you

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Speaker 2: want to be a part of that if you're sixteen

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Speaker 2: or eighteen.

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Speaker 1: No, hopefully she threw creole in there, like are the

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Speaker 1: creoles having a rough time these days?

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Speaker 2: What about Gromanni? I didn't even get that. Is that

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Speaker 2: like gypsies? Oh, gypsies,