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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, I got I los Nanda's.

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Speaker 2: Pllease Hey boo, it's me Ros and welcome to Ghosted

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Speaker 2: by Rose Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people

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Speaker 2: that I like about the paranormal. It's another listener phone

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Speaker 1: As always, you know what to do. I mean, for

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Okay, we've got three of them

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Speaker 1: for you today. And this first one is from Josh,

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Speaker 1: who is a former punk rock drag queen that's got

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Speaker 1: a story about living on a farm in Texas. Give

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Speaker 1: it to us, Josh. I am joined by Josh in Dallas, Texas.

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Speaker 1: Howdy Howdy, Diva, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm great?

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Speaker 1: How are you so good? I'm gonna say it on record.

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Speaker 1: I have got to get to Dallas to do some

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Speaker 1: kind of show stand up. I don't know what something,

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Speaker 1: because I love Dallas and I'm missing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Great city. We would love to have you here.

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Speaker 3: I'll take you to all the best places. We'll get

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Speaker 3: all the good vegan food.

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Speaker 1: But you grew up in a haunted house? That was

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Speaker 1: that in Dallas? Where was that?

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Speaker 3: No, it wasn't So. I've lived in Dallas for a

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Speaker 3: really long time. But I'm actually a country girl. I

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Speaker 3: grew up on a farm in the middle of East Texas,

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Speaker 3: super close to the Louisiana borders. So lots of woods,

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Speaker 3: lots of ponds and swamps, and lots of weird, weird,

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Speaker 1: If we like to call it a haunted farmhouse in Texas,

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Speaker 1: I mean this is I am strapped in and ready

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's kind of crazy. The story kind of

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Speaker 3: starts and end with a fire, not to be dramatic,

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Speaker 3: but the house that my family originally lived in until

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Speaker 3: I was three years old burned down just in the

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Speaker 3: middle of an I still not really sure what happened there.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure my parents know. But we then moved into

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Speaker 3: what we call the farm. So it's sort of a typical,

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Speaker 1: Is this the kind of thing where no one can

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Speaker 1: hear you scream?

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Speaker 3: Exactly? Our nearest neighbor was literally two miles down the room,

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Speaker 1: Have you seen the movie X no X X. It's

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Speaker 1: like a trilogy of movies. There's X, there's Maxine, there's Pearl.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, I have, Yeah, of course, X is like.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it takes place in I thought it

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Speaker 3: Watching almost like, yeah, this all looks familiar, I mean,

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Speaker 3: other than like murderous old people. But who knows there

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Speaker 3: Don't know if you've ever been around a bunch of

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Speaker 1: I've been around people that smell like farm animals.

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Speaker 3: Of course, growing up, my parents were like, oh, it's

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean not a cowboy hat though exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Cowboy hat specifically Texas? But there's probably something to that.

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Speaker 1: Did your dad ever like allude to like him thinking

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Speaker 1: I have no idea how she was possessed.

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Speaker 1: I think about this all the time. Now, let's if

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Speaker 3: I honestly don't know either. I mean, I've never been

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Speaker 3: But with my friends, like people that I k need,

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Speaker 3: It's possibly haunted by a German ghost? They would probably

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Speaker 3: So we moved into the house in eighty seven. I

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Speaker 3: And like I said, I called my sister to kind

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Speaker 3: My older brother unfortunately passed away a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, literally everyone who came in the house, friends

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Speaker 1: But you guys never saw the cowboy inside of the house.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, never in the house, always around the property close

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Speaker 3: But we never actually saw an actual like apparition or

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Speaker 1: Now, is there is there any possibility that there's just

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Speaker 1: Like did you ever see him disappear or I don't know,

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Speaker 1: there is it possible that that could have just been

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Speaker 3: You would think, But we knew the town creeper.

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Speaker 1: He didn't look like too.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't him. So I still think it was a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's commitment if that is a real living

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Speaker 1: exactly ten years.

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Speaker 3: I just committment to.

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Speaker 1: The yes and then probably never aged. If you know

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Speaker 1: it's it was a ghost, I'm going with ghost.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with ghosts too.

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Speaker 1: I have my gabble.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 1: I'm calling it. Well, I guess Josh, that'll do it.

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Speaker 1: I so appreciate you taking the time to do this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, I appreciate you letting me talk about

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Speaker 3: Hillbily ghosts since I don't get to tell the stories

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Josh. This next phone call was with a

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Speaker 1: listener named Christie who grew up in a haunted house. Christy, Hello,

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Speaker 1: Christy and Illinois. How are you hi?

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Speaker 4: Raf I'm good me too.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to hear what you've got for us,

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Speaker 1: because you got a list here of some good ones. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: where do we start? What's what's your best one?

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Speaker 4: Well, the one that usually freaks people out when I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like that. That is It's one of

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Speaker 1: wouldn't that be so nice?

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Speaker 1: I would unless there's nobody there. Yeah, that's absolutely terrifying.

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Speaker 4: I have a lot of friends who would not stay

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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 1: Now, did your parents or anybody else in the house

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Speaker 4: Nobody else in the house ever experienced anything. I had

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Speaker 1: That actually creeped me out for a second.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, I had friends who they would make me come

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Speaker 4: I was told by a friend who lived in town

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Speaker 4: They started getting like stuff moved around, stuff would go missing.

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Speaker 1: Why was it empty for ten years? The whole family

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Speaker 4: was a kid, he was accused of filling his life.

437
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 4: Oh okay, well so he moved away.

438
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: Oh interested Ooh tell me more, tell me more.

439
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 4: So my childhood best friend and I, since I moved

440
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 4: away from our hometown, we catch up once in a while,

441
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 4: like our friendship is my poses and we get together

442
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 4: when I come home. And I hadn't seen her for

443
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 4: close to a year, and I texted her out of

444
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 4: the blue. I just had that like feeling, just like

445
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 4: I got a check in, Like I need to check in.

446
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 4: I send a text now before I forget about it.

447
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 4: And they've been talking about they wanted to buy a house,

448
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 4: they want to start trying to have a family, et cetera.

449
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 4: And I texted her, didn't say anything about the house.

450
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 4: I just said, hey, how's baby stuff going? And she

451
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 4: texted me back the next day and she was like,

452
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 4: that was really freaky. She goes, we just found out.

453
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 4: We haven't even told my mom yet. I'm like, that

454
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 4: doesn't happen to me very often, but it's really cool

455
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 4: what it does.

456
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I've had that happen to me too before.

457
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: Where Like I've told this story before in the podcast

458
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: where I was staying at my friend's house. My friend

459
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: Chelsea and I woke up and I asked her about

460
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: the ghost in the house. I was like, Sarah the

461
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: ghost in the house, and she was like, how'd you

462
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: know her name was Sarah? And I'm like, oh though,

463
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: I just She's like, we just found that out. And

464
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I don't know how that works, but

465
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: maybe she whispered in my ear when I was sleeping

466
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: or some then I mean, they live there too, So

467
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: what is this one with a nurse? What does this

468
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: say here?

469
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: So I work in an emergency room and I work

470
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 4: night shift. I do like front desk stuff. So sometimes

471
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 4: I'll get a really like bed feeling like I need

472
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 4: to bother a nurse, like I shove me into the

473
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 4: first time, Like you need to call her again, like

474
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 4: check in with her, like something going on and sometimes

475
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 4: by the time they answered, they'll be like, oh, I

476
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 4: meant to call you, like something bad's going on back here,

477
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 4: we've got family coming in, Like, I'm glad you got

478
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 4: ahold of me so we didn't leave them in the

479
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 4: waiting room and miss something important. By the time that

480
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 4: like I've got the thought, they'll call up and be like,

481
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 4: did you need me? Did I miss a call from you?

482
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: Like?

483
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 4: How did you know?

484
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 6: How?

485
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 4: How did you know that I needed you?

486
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're full on psycheg I.

487
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 4: Mean like timing. I guess I've got good instincts, but

488
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't ever see anything. I don't

489
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 4: want to see anything.

490
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: Well yeah, that's good, but I mean we're all a

491
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: little psychic. But I bet you if you just focused

492
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: on not the seeing dead people part of it, but

493
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: predicting and using your intuition, I.

494
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: Bet you you.

495
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: I bet you could make some money on the.

496
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 4: Side the I don't ever want to see anything. But

497
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 4: do you ever like walk into a room and you

498
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 4: can't take your eyes off, like a corner or you

499
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 4: have a bad feeling about a hallway?

500
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah, So in.

501
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 4: A couple of different friend's houses, I used to call

502
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 4: from the front door, like they would like, oh, let

503
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 4: yourself in, we're upstairs, and I let myself in, but

504
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 4: I would stand right by the front door and be

505
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 4: like someone has to come and walk me up a staircase.

506
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: Like I will not.

507
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 4: I can't even flights are on. I cannot see the

508
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 4: hallway by myself. It was like made fun of me

509
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 4: for like two or three years. They made fun of me,

510
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 4: and then finally, like one of the days I let

511
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 4: myself in, his mom was finally home and he was like, oh, yeah,

512
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 4: like everybody's upstairs.

513
00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 3: Just come up.

514
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 4: And I was like, no, you have to come get me.

515
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 4: And his mom calls in the living room and she's like,

516
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 4: what does a little girl bother you? Uh uh excuse me?

517
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: She goes, yeah, she I don't know. Sometimes she like

518
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 4: makes herself known, but she's up in that hallway, like

519
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 4: that's why I can't go up the stairs because I can't.

520
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 4: I can't get to the landing. I cannot eat the

521
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: hallway by myself. She's like, just tell her to leave

522
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 4: you alone and it'll be fine. I don't think.

523
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: So you are the Illinois Medium, this is going to

524
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: be your reality show.

525
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: As long as they stop touching me, Do they touch you?

526
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 6: Like?

527
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: Have you had experiences recently with like ghosts like that?

528
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 3: No?

529
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 4: No, just that one time.

530
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you a question. Working in an

531
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: emergency room setting, have you ever heard people talk about ghosts?

532
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: Most of us believe in something, but not a ton

533
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 4: of us have experiences that like they've shared that have

534
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 4: happened like work, a lot of us have our own

535
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 4: like outside of work stuff. I've been really fortunate that

536
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: work is always like a calm, I mean, like for

537
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 4: being an emergency room, there's not like spooky stuff. Yeah,

538
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 4: Like even when I walk around, I'll take my break

539
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 4: and like go and walk around with security staff and

540
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 4: like even walking around in like the like less lit

541
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 4: areas or like done by the lab and the work.

542
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 4: Like I don't get bad ceilings. I don't get like

543
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 4: booky what's that? Like? I always sleep on my lunch break,

544
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 4: so I get like a thirty minute nap, and I

545
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 4: will just go into like an unoccupied area, like and

546
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 4: I don't care if it's like a lobby chair or

547
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 4: like a like a doctor's lounge. Like sometimes I sleep

548
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 4: in like the empty exam rooms and then change the linens,

549
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 4: like so the room is clean for the morning, then

550
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 4: nothing's ever bothered me. Like I don't get sleep paralysis,

551
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: I don't get bad ceilings. Like work's always like a

552
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 4: surprisingly calm energy. Maybe it's just because there's so.

553
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: Much happening interesting, Yeah, yeah, is it a busy place

554
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: where there's you know, just non stop all the.

555
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 4: Time or yeah, we have thirty five beds in our year.

556
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: So probably not very often where there's moments where it's

557
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: like wow, slow day to day, nothing's going on now.

558
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 4: Almost never. Yeah, we have unfortunately long wait sometimes huh.

559
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: Because I wonder what it would be like completely quiet.

560
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it's happened before, and it's that. I think

561
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 4: that's probably spookier when like the PA system cuts out

562
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 4: and there's nobody in the lobby and all you can

563
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 4: hear is like the air conditioner. I think that's spookier

564
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 4: in like a big mechanical like just empty facility like

565
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 4: that when it's like supposed to be busy, like those

566
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 4: limital type spaces.

567
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

568
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I've been in a couple of theme parks

569
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: when it's like after hours or like not you know,

570
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: not time for people to be everywhere and it's like,

571
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: this is spooky as hell. It's so strange when there's

572
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: you're just used to that energy of people everywhere and

573
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: it's just quiet.

574
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like empty auditorium.

575
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: Oh I don't like it. Tell me the story about

576
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: what your house sitting or something. Your baby's sitting at

577
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: a house that was haunted.

578
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, So they've gone out of town for like a week.

579
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 4: They were neighbors across the streets, so our houses on

580
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 4: our houses, I guess are on the older side of town,

581
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 4: so everything's like creaky and old and anyway, they asked

582
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 4: if I'd watched their two dogs so i'd be like

583
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 4: in and out of the house, and they clarified, I'm

584
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 4: the only one with the key, and the cleaning lady

585
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 4: would be coming by, so one of the days I

586
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 4: was going to have to make sure I went over

587
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 4: early and unlocked the house so that the cleaning people

588
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 4: could come by and then go over after and lock up.

589
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 4: And then they called and said the Queen teaeople were

590
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: able to get in because the house was locked, And

591
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 4: I was like, that's funny because I went over and

592
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 4: like set up everything, and the house was like old

593
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 4: and creaky and like sometimes houses settle and make funny noises,

594
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 4: but it always was like too noisy, like someone else

595
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 4: in the house noisy, like someone walking around upstairs noisy.

596
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 4: And the dogs would like follow me from room to

597
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 4: room like they would not be left alone if everybody

598
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 4: was home. They were fine and settled, but they would

599
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 4: like stay right next to me, and they were like

600
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 4: not happy to be in their crates when it wasn't

601
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 4: over there. And I would turn off the TV and

602
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 4: turn off the fans and turn off the lights as

603
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: I like walked out and left, and when i'd come back,

604
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 4: like the fan would be back on with the TV

605
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 4: be back on, and like sure fine, like somebody bumps something,

606
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 4: and I would just try to like write stuff off.

607
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 4: It just was really really spooky, and it always it

608
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 4: just always felt like there was someone else in the house.

609
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: I never really had anything that I heard or saw

610
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 4: there as far as like, oh, that was definitely a ghost,

611
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 4: but it just was such a bad feeling to like,

612
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 4: I have the key, I have the only key. Apparently

613
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 4: I went and unlocked the house and now it's locked.

614
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 4: I went and turned everything off and now it's on.

615
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: And I just finished my week with them and was like, no, thanks,

616
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 4: I don't think i'll house it for you anymore.

617
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: It was cute, but I'm out of here. Yeah, bad vibes, weird. Yeah,

618
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing that is so stressful and

619
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: like dangerous or something, because it's how do you know

620
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: if it's not an intruder, like I don't want to

621
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: have to twenty four to seven be dealing with is

622
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: there someone in my house trying to kill me? Or

623
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: oh it's just an invisible human. I don't know, you know,

624
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: not a great option, b if that's.

625
00:33:58,920 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: What it is.

626
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 4: Neither one is good. Yeah, yeah, I was just always like,

627
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 4: can't relax. Vibes there.

628
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: I hate that. But I love your stories. Thank you

629
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: so much for sharing them.

630
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ron, thanks for your time.

631
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: Thank you, Christy, And we've got one more for you.

632
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: This is Dominique and Dominique is a big fan of

633
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: celebrity ghost stories, one of my favorites, and he has

634
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: a connection to one iconic episode Take it Away, Dominique.

635
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: I am joined now by Dominique in Jersey.

636
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 6: Hello, Hey, thank you for having me.

637
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to have you. You have got stories

638
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: you grew up with with some of this stuff where

639
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: do we start.

640
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 5: Let's start where I started, which is like as a

641
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 5: kid listening to ghost stories being told about my grandmother's

642
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 5: house through the eyes of my aunts and uncles and

643
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 5: mother who lived them. Each of them has very unique stories,

644
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 5: and it's to the point where, like so much has

645
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 5: happened that if you mentioned ghosts to one of them,

646
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 5: none of them are really in denial about it. They're

647
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 5: all very much like, oh, yeah, no, that house was haunted,

648
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 5: which is pretty cool to like paint you a picture

649
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 5: of the house. Was like very small, I would say,

650
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 5: it was like maybe a ranch house that they had

651
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 5: built additions onto. And there were always places in the

652
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 5: home that felt sort of heavier than the others, and

653
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 5: sure enough those were like a part of the original structure.

654
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 5: Like there was a central kitchen attached to this very

655
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 5: long mirrored hallway, and there was always like this feeling

656
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 5: of people watching you, Like even though you were the

657
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 5: only one in the hallway, the amount of mirrors that

658
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 5: were in there just made it feel like there were

659
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 5: more eyes on you at once.

660
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: That just seems like a fun house situation or something.

661
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 6: Yes, yes it was.

662
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: It was because you know, people will y'all hear people

663
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: that I'll tell you, mayors are a portal to the

664
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: other side.

665
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 5: Oh, sis, I just interrupt you really quickly because the

666
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 5: name of the road that they grew up on was veil.

667
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: Oh it was the veil thin Honey, That veil was

668
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: on ozempic honey. So okay, this this house in particular,

669
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: did you ever go to this?

670
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

671
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 5: So it was my grandmother's house, so we would like

672
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 5: visit her, you know, pretty regularly. The first time that

673
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 5: I there was like a story that happened whilst I

674
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 5: was in the house. Was we were moving from Long

675
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 5: Island to New Jersey and it was myself, my multiple siblings,

676
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 5: and my mother and father all staying in different you know,

677
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 5: rooms of the house. And one day we were all

678
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 5: sitting at breakfast and we had a dog also because

679
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 5: that's just the suburban dream, and it was an old

680
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,959
Speaker 5: English sheep dog like Prince Eric's dog in the Little

681
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 5: Mermaid Cute. Their name was Dandy. They were just this

682
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 5: big white fluf And so one day we were all

683
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 5: having breakfast in the kitchen and my grandfather comes in

684
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 5: like kind of angry because he didn't get a good

685
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 5: sleep that night, and started like asking my mother, like,

686
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 5: why did you let the dog out of the cage

687
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 5: last night? Like it was just at the end of

688
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 5: the bed all evening. I kept rolling over waking up

689
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 5: and just seeing like this giant white fluff. And my

690
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 5: mother was like pretty insistent to my you know, senior grandfather,

691
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 5: like the dog was in their cage the entire evening. No,

692
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 5: was at the end of the cage. I kept at

693
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 5: fans of the bed. I kept seeing it when I

694
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 5: woke up. It was just this big white ball.

695
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 6: The dog was in the cage the entire evening.

696
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 5: So he was seeing something, but it wasn't the dog interresting.

697
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was like the first time.

698
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 5: And then I think the more I learned about like

699
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 5: sort of the spirits of the house, I would ask questions.

700
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 5: My aunt Missy had a couple stories, one of which

701
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 5: involved her as a child in the original part of

702
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 5: the house with like a group of girls doing a

703
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 5: wigi board in the seventies. Classic She said that there

704
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 5: was no windows open, and because it was the seventies.

705
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 6: I guess they had like just wind chimes everywhere. But

706
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 6: I digress. They were doing the ouiji board and they

707
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 6: weren't getting.

708
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 5: Very many answers, and it was like her, my mother,

709
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 5: and two girls from school, and she was like frustrated

710
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 5: at the board.

711
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 6: So they asked it a stupid question.

712
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 5: And I remember what she had told me, which was,

713
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 5: I asked it like a girl in our class's middle name.

714
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 5: I figured it would be, you know, kind of a

715
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 5: commonplace to like whatever spiritual entities we were communicating with.

716
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 6: And so she yelled at the board.

717
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 5: She goes, oh, come on, you should know this, and

718
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 5: that's when the board responded and said, why, oh, you

719
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 5: should too. And then the windchimes in the room without

720
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 5: any windows open, started like you know, making noise, and

721
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 5: they started screaming and ran into another part of the

722
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 5: room to her home to find my grandma.

723
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: They opened the port all that day.

724
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 5: I guess, so one story that did happen, but I

725
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 5: think I glazed over because it was pretty minute. But

726
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 5: my uncle one time said that he was like lining

727
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 5: up his vitamins to take in the morning, and like

728
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 5: you know, on the counter, and let's say there was

729
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 5: like five of them. They were all like pill shaped.

730
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: What have you is?

731
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 5: He went to go get water from the refrigerator and

732
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 5: when he turned around, he said, all the pills were

733
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 5: like standing long ways up.

734
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good one. Isn't that nutty?

735
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 5: That's just also like, I mean, you know, he was

736
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 5: on a lot of medication, so I don't want to

737
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 5: like impune his reception of things, but yeah, it was

738
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 5: kind of nuts to be like, Wow.

739
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: Maybe it's plausible because the pills hadn't kicked in yet,

740
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: so maybe so we don't know, but I'm going with it.

741
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: I like him. I wasn't hey, listen, I wasn't there.

742
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: It's a good story.

743
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 5: He did say he used to hear the sounds of

744
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 5: chains being dragged on the roof, and where he described

745
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 5: it as an adult aligned with when I remember as

746
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 5: a kid, like not wanting to go into this one bathroom.

747
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 6: It just looked scary. It was like long, like a hallway.

748
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 5: It had the same colors as like room three twenty

749
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 5: seven or whatever from the Shining. Don't drag me for

750
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 5: not knowing, but I remember being a kid, like the

751
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 5: only time it would want to be in that part

752
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 5: of the house was like bathtime with my grandma, Like

753
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 5: I was only cool if she was there too, because

754
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 5: it just had like this heaviness to the atmosphere. That

755
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 5: just made me feel much like the hallway with mirrors,

756
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 5: like I'm not alone in this room, like there's someone here,

757
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 5: except in that room it felt it felt heavier, it

758
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 5: felt more menacing. So to hear him as when I'm

759
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 5: an adult hear him retail, like, oh yeah, I used

760
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 5: to hear someone like the sound of someone dragging chains

761
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 5: in that part of the house.

762
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 6: That was a That was a nutty thing.

763
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you went to a haunted high school?

764
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

765
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 5: So my high school was indeed featured on a very

766
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 5: fond show of yours as well as mine Celebrity ghost Stories.

767
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 6: Hell yeah, which sidebar.

768
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 5: I think when it premiered, that house was still in

769
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 5: like the family, So I used to watch episodes from

770
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 5: inside the haunted house, like hoping I would see something.

771
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: I never did.

772
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 5: But but yeah, there was this episode in particularly that

773
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 5: my high.

774
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 6: School was featured on.

775
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 5: I didn't see when it aired originally, I saw like

776
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 5: during COVID during a binge, because it was through a

777
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 5: guy on this Pranos named Federico Caste Lucci.

778
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: I believe.

779
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: Oh, they had everybody ever on the Sopranos on that show.

780
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: I swear to god, like every episode there's like a

781
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: sopranos person. Those people on that show all had ghost stories.

782
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 5: Well, the episode he was on was the same episode

783
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 5: I'm again not seen probably the twenty years between it

784
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 5: aired to now because I didn't know who that guy was,

785
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 5: and also like I didn't I don't care about the sopranos, Like,

786
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 5: I'm sure it's a wonderful show, you know, but Jersey,

787
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 5: I know, I think it hits too close to home.

788
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 5: It's like, my father looks like if if like Danny

789
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 5: DeVito were a tall and tony soprano himself for the ventie.

790
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 6: My father was kind of the grande. Oh okay, so

791
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 6: it's just it's like too triggery. But I digress.

792
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 5: The episode he was on Frederico was like rue McClanahan,

793
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 5: Harry Fisher and John Waters.

794
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I by this episode.

795
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

796
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 5: So by the time, like you know, Carrie got done

797
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 5: talking about like her friend whose lights were flickering to

798
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 5: say hello to her, where John Waters was talking about

799
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 5: like his summer camp, I was like burnt out from

800
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 5: like you know, my respective queer icons.

801
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 6: By the time I got to that guy was like man.

802
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 6: But during COVID, I was like, oh, I've actually never

803
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 6: seen this guy.

804
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 5: And then when it started, I was live texting my

805
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 5: girlfriend who I went high school with. I was like, bitch,

806
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 5: like listen to what this man is dropping. And he

807
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 5: start he went into it. He said like, oh, it

808
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 5: was a school in Madison and it was inside an

809
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 5: old Victorian mansion. And I was like, this is sounding

810
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 5: hauntingly familiar. And then he even name dropped the name

811
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 5: of the the monsignor at the school, and I was like, girl,

812
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 5: that was straight up monsignor so and so. And then

813
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 5: he was talking about like the structure and that was

814
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 5: haunted by a little girl named Alice. And I was like,

815
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 5: holy fucking shit, like that's where that was.

816
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

817
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 5: Am I allowed to say the name of the school.

818
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 5: It's no longer open, Yes say it Belly Eller Catholic

819
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 5: High School.

820
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: Okay it was.

821
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 5: I was a part of the last graduating class in

822
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 5: two thousand and five at shutdown. But it opened like

823
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 5: you know I would gather the early nineteen hundreds. It

824
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 5: was like built for a man named like Leland Parland,

825
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 5: and it changed hands into like you know, the Walkers

826
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 5: or something, and that was the sort of Laura on

827
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 5: campus was was haunted by a little girl named Alice Walker.

828
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 5: I once did a deep dive. I did not find

829
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 5: evidence of a little girl named Alice Walker on the property.

830
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 5: I did, however, find the story of a girl who

831
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 5: passed away on the property around the same time Alice

832
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 5: might have. It was a girl who died of like

833
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 5: natural causes or like scarlet fever or something at the

834
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 5: Victorian mansion that my high school was based in on

835
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 5: the New Year's eve before her like sixteenth birthday.

836
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: So that stood out to.

837
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 5: Me because like the commonality of like a young girl,

838
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 5: like not a girl, not yet a woman.

839
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 6: That might be the unfinished business. The soul comes back

840
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 6: as to haunt something totally.

841
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: He probably wants to be around her peers.

842
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 5: I do think that kind of escalated it. And on

843
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 5: that note, because we have that activity of like it's

844
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 5: a kid's school.

845
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 6: It was high school.

846
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 5: There were a lot of teachers who would have to

847
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 5: like stay late to great papers, and each one of

848
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 5: them had a story. My late teacher, her name is Jesse,

849
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 5: she said that one time she was like going through

850
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 5: the school, like in the classroom after a long evening

851
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 5: of grading paper sometime in the fall, and again to set.

852
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 6: It up for you.

853
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 5: This is like repurpose bedrooms of a Victorian mansion set

854
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 5: up to be classrooms. But I digress, tell people the

855
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 5: name again, Baily Ellard, b A y l e y

856
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 5: Lard e Lard.

857
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. People look at these pictures at google it yourself.

858
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: It's because now it seems like it's abandoned. I guess it's.

859
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 5: Well, it was abandoned for a great many year after

860
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 5: two thousand and five, and then sometime in the twenty

861
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 5: tens it was bought by like those people that like

862
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 5: become priests or something.

863
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

864
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: So now it's like like a seminary. Yeah, seminary, a seminary,

865
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: a priestory.

866
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 3: Yep, one of those.

867
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So I digress.

868
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 5: Jesse was in her classroom which is potentially haunted by

869
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 5: this little girl Alice, and at the end of the day,

870
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 5: when she had done great papers, she was ready to

871
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 5: go and she was looking for her keys, and like

872
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 5: after twenty minutes, she just like gave up and plopped

873
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 5: herself down in the chair and then like saw them

874
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 5: across the room just magically appear on the fireplace mantle.

875
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 5: And she's like I looked everywhere and this was twenty

876
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 5: minutes of my time, Like, who was hiding these keys?

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Speaker 1: Alice?

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00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 3: It was Alice.

879
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: It's Alice. She's sixty, she wants to learn how to drive.

880
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 6: Yes, evidently, yes, yes, yes, correct, my godmother.

881
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 5: Also she was the art teacher there, and I thought,

882
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 5: I think that's what grabbed me about the Sopranos guy story.

883
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 5: It was like, there's a chance he's talking about our

884
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 5: art room, which was fucking huge. And also in the

885
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 5: like the attic, the former attic of the mansion, and

886
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 5: that's where actually I had my only paranormal encounter of

887
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 5: my life. I like, at my Grandma's haunted house, I

888
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 5: never saw anything, and even at Bailey in the mansion,

889
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 5: I never saw anything. But I had my one experience

890
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 5: that was like similar to what Jesse experienced in terms

891
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 5: of like that mischievous kind of nonsense that a ghost

892
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 5: would pull. So in the attic of the mansion, the

893
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 5: top story, they like balled off half of it, and

894
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 5: at the end of the hallway they were like those swinging,

895
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 5: like metallic saloon style doors that like you know, I

896
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 5: guess they're kind of industrial style because Catholic schools have

897
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 5: money to like pay for the finer doors.

898
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: Sure.

899
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 5: Anyway, they opened up at like the same time, like

900
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 5: they swung back and forth. So saloon style is the

901
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 5: best they can describe book, and I was. I was

902
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 5: an artsy kid, like I think my like sophomore junior year,

903
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 5: I was literally the president of the drama and I

904
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 5: was also helping to like paint the sets and later

905
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 5: on got my degree in fine art. But in between,

906
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 5: like rehearsals, I would go upstairs to the you know,

907
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 5: the attic of the haunted mansion to just like paint

908
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 5: like every.

909
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 6: Normal high school boy.

910
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 5: So there was one time that I was up there

911
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 5: and it was pretty late at night, because that's when

912
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 5: rehearsals are there after school. They run late, and I

913
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 5: was like at the sink and behind me to like

914
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 5: give you context is the double saloon industrial style of

915
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 5: swinging doors. And I heard like a like what I

916
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 5: in retrospect, like I think I romanticizes like the sound

917
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 5: of like cowboy boots, because it was like a large clut.

918
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 5: It was like the sounds of steps, but there was

919
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 5: like a jingle almost like a stirrup or something, which

920
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 5: makes no sense.

921
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 6: But anyway, it could have been coins. I don't know.

922
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 5: I just heard like plunk and then like jingle clunk jingle.

923
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 5: So I was like, oh, someone with like a large

924
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 5: set of keys. I presume who is coming up to

925
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 5: get me to tell me that they're ready for me

926
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 5: in rehearsal, is you know, just coming up to grab me.

927
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 5: So I like turn around with the paint brushes in

928
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 5: my hand because my back is to the door, and

929
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 5: as like the steps approach the doorway, No, I don't

930
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 5: see anyone. However, both double doors begin to open at

931
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 5: the same time. My heart goes kind of like crazy,

932
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 5: like a flutter.

933
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 3: I was like, what the fuck am I fucking looking at?

934
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 5: And you know, I've just always been tapped into the shit.

935
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,479
Speaker 5: So I just yelled out no, and the door slammed shut.

936
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: But you mean like because those doors don't open slow

937
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: like those doors usually are opened or they're not like

938
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 1: I feel, So this was like kind of going slow,

939
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: going slow.

940
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 6: It also ras if I may.

941
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 5: I went to school there for four years, three of

942
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 5: which I spent hunker down in that art room. I

943
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 5: never saw those doors open by themselves again, Like there

944
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 5: was never like oopsie, poopsie. It's a of wind like no,

945
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 5: like in three years of classes within that classroom. Never

946
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 5: again did that experience replicate. And also what like the steps,

947
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 5: like had I not known to turn around because of

948
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 5: those steps? Like it's just too much of a like

949
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 5: unexplainable event for me, and it's like held with me

950
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 5: to this day.

951
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: Oh I bet Alice was like, can I help with

952
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: your project?

953
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 6: You're like, now, that's a really sweet thought.

954
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: Was that man from the Sopranos? So his story was

955
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 1: that he went to that school.

956
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 5: No, his story was he approached the monts Signior because

957
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 5: he had a large art commission and he with these

958
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 5: insane dimensions and his studio was too small for it.

959
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 5: So he was like, I guess he lived in the

960
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 5: area and a friend of his had recommended to talk

961
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 5: to this mont Signior at bailly Ellard and he did

962
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 5: and he was like, yeah, you can use the art

963
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 5: room or you can use whatever, and he was like, oh,

964
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 5: this is huge, yay. And while he was painting, he

965
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 5: heard like you know, ambient sounds, looked around and saw

966
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 5: a little girl.

967
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah I never saw.

968
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 5: Anything, believe you me, I was looking, but yeah, I

969
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 5: did have that one experience that like I can't explain it,

970
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 5: and I like I can't. I'm usually pretty good at

971
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 5: like justifying things with logic, and this was something that like, No,

972
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 5: I heard footsteps, I saw two doors that I've never

973
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 5: seen move slowly by themselves, move slowly by themselves. So yeah,

974
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 5: maybe it was Alice just popping in to say, like, hey,

975
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 5: can they like.

976
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: Can I paint too? That's what I'm going with.

977
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 6: It's a good theory.

978
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: I like that.

979
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 6: Thank you.

980
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: This has been great. I so appreciate you taking the

981
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: time to do this.

982
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 6: Yes, thank you very much for having me Roz.

983
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Josh, Christy and Dominique. I'd

984
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Speaker 1: love to talk to you too if you got the

985
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: goods for me, so of course, email me ghosted Bye

986
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: Roz at gmail dot com. I love you all both

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Speaker 1: living in death. But if I didn't ask you to

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00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: haunt me, don't haunt me. Came on. This has been

989
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal experience

990
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Speaker 1: on the podcast. I read stories out loud and sometimes

991
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Speaker 1: I'll even call you. So email me at ghosted by

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Speaker 1: production support from the hair raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. My

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Speaker 1: theme music is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon.

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