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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April tenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Chackick, and welcome in.

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Speaker 3: It is Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday, April tenth.

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Speaker 3: We've got a busy hour ahead. The off season program

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Speaker 3: is underway. Players are here. They're running and jumping and

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Speaker 3: lifting and moving and doing some not even really football

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Speaker 3: things yet a lot of culture building going on around here.

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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen spoke with the media yesterday.

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Speaker 3: We'll hear some of his comments from the Jaguars, said coach,

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Speaker 3: as did Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars quarterback and Foyer Luk and

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Speaker 3: the Places. JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman. Good afternoon, Jebs afternoon, JP.

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Speaker 3: Oh are you I'm doing good? Since last week?

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Speaker 1: You have been a while right in a minute.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, been six days, yeah or so almost. How many

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Speaker 3: hours is that? I don't know, math I was told

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Speaker 3: there would be none today. It's been a while, No,

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Speaker 3: it's uh, it's been a good week though since the

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Speaker 3: last time I saw you.

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Speaker 1: Going on there is a lot actually something going on

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Speaker 1: is well.

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Speaker 3: I figured there was something going on when I when

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Speaker 3: my phone started to ring and uh serious, XM NFL

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Speaker 3: radio wanted to do some interviews. Ah, you want to

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Speaker 3: talk a little bit about Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: What were they interested in?

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Speaker 3: So I got, you know, just about the the general

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Speaker 3: vibe of the new regime, the structure of the new regime,

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Speaker 3: how everybody's going to fit together, what does that mean

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Speaker 3: for I mean all those kind of things.

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Speaker 1: People just want to know.

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Speaker 3: It's football, and when teams start the OTAs, it creates

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Speaker 3: more football news. And I know as a player, it's

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Speaker 3: kind of like the first day back to school, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean you get to see the guys you haven't

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Speaker 3: little bit, get to compete a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit in the weight room. It's good stuff. Some new

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Speaker 1: teachers for the class.

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Speaker 3: Well, and that's the most important thing because I mean

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Speaker 3: it's a you know, when you walk in a billion

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Speaker 3: everybody's kind of coming in renewed, refreshed, and on top

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Speaker 3: of that with a blank slate.

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Speaker 1: So to speak. Yes, absolutely, And.

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Speaker 3: What I mean by that is that you hout now

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Speaker 3: have a new set of eyes that it's going to

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Speaker 3: be evaluating you and where you're at and whatever eyes

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Speaker 3: looked at you in the past, and their opinion doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: So the film kind of speaks a little bit for

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Speaker 3: the opinions to be shaped on the people that are

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Speaker 3: have that as a reference, but they don't turn to

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Speaker 3: it as the gospel. You have to create your own now,

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Speaker 3: and that's the way it should be. And I think

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Speaker 3: that that's the exciting part. And I think it's a

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Speaker 3: little nerve racking for some guys because they don't know

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Speaker 3: where they stand.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is.

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Speaker 3: Part of the deal. Though it's football. It means you've

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Speaker 3: got to prove yourself every day. You're only as good

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Speaker 3: as your last game on tape. Well, I mean the

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Speaker 3: reality is, I mean, there's you can kind of prove it,

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Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, you're really not

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Speaker 3: proving it. Until you're getting back on the grass in

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Speaker 3: front of a big fan base and lights are.

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Speaker 1: On or not on if it's one o'clock kick, You

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Speaker 1: know that type situation.

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Speaker 3: Part of it for a new coaching staff, of course,

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Speaker 3: is establishing the culture how you want to operate it.

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Speaker 3: That's the interesting part to me. Day after day you

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Speaker 3: do that well. We heard from Liam Cohen, oddly enough,

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Speaker 3: yesterday he spoke with the media. Okay, it was a

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Speaker 3: big topic of conversation. We know is acronym fast to

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Speaker 3: talk about the mentality he wants around the team stands

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Speaker 3: for fundamentally sound, attacking, situational masters and tough both mentally

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Speaker 3: and physically. The toughness part is one of the things

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Speaker 3: he was asked about. How do you establish that this

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Speaker 4: I know that this is not a physical time, it

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Speaker 4: can't be and it isn't. But the establishing of the mindset,

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Speaker 4: the way that we're going to do things, the way

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Speaker 4: that we want the meetings, like coach Camp brought up today,

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Speaker 4: our meetings should be tough, right, Like we're learning new information.

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Speaker 4: It's all very new for everybody. That's hard. It's hard

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Speaker 4: to do for a coach, for a player, it's hard

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Speaker 4: to learn. So when you do hard things and you

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Speaker 4: come out on the other end, usually you say, well

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Speaker 4: I got tougher from that, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's this time of year toughness, right, And then

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Speaker 3: it becomes once you start on the field, situational, you know,

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Speaker 3: actually moving people around and changing the way this football

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: For first, a little explanationary, says coach camp and I'm

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Speaker 3: assuming that's coach Anthony Campinelli, the defensive coordinator. Correct, And

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Speaker 3: it is tough for some guys to learn a new

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Speaker 3: a long period of time and kind of that lingo,

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Speaker 3: that language is ingrained in their head and you've got

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Speaker 3: to kind of wipe it clean and start fresh and

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Speaker 3: start new. I don't know if I'd necessarily say that

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Speaker 3: it's hard to learn football. It's kind of football, and

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Speaker 3: football's not necessarily that hard. Now, let me correct myself here.

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Speaker 3: If you're a quarterback and you're learning the offense, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: for a third time in what five years in the league,

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Speaker 3: Holy cow, And Trevor hasn't had the opportunity to probably

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Speaker 3: learn much of the offense yet. So this is going

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Speaker 3: to be a tough, challenging time for Trevor to kind

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Speaker 3: of digest that offense and to be able to speak

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Speaker 3: the language as fast as possible, because he's the leader

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Speaker 3: probably going to be more difficult. So that I think

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Speaker 3: is imperative to get started and get rolling quickly. Another

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Speaker 3: part of this time of the year, of course, it's phase

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Speaker 3: one of the offseason program. That means strength and conditioning.

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Speaker 3: Only very limited amount of time each day the players

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Speaker 3: they can actually be on the field only with strength

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Speaker 4: There's no pre existing you know, just thoughts about anybody.

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Speaker 4: It's just hey man, this is how we're doing it.

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Speaker 4: These are the things that we're going to do while

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Speaker 4: also gearing it towards at some point here individual development

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Speaker 4: think it's actually great that they are starting from scratch

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Speaker 4: and having those relationships be able to be fostered, and

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Speaker 4: then as we grow get to know each other a

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Speaker 4: little bit more, those IDPs will become a little bit

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Speaker 3: It's all new, especially down in the weight room, and

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Speaker 3: that they're the only coaches on staff that can be

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Speaker 3: out on the field with the players this time of year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and that's for general conditioning stuff and no football stuff whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: But kind of funny story with Leave's talking about the

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Speaker 3: strength and conditioning aspect. You know, guys, different guys, players

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Speaker 3: use different weights. You know, they have a custom tailored

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Speaker 3: to the individual, which you know kind of position group wise. Right,

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Speaker 3: I'll never forget, you know, going back to the very

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Speaker 3: we had our strength and conditioning coach was Jerry Paul

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Speaker 3: Mario and Jerry's great love them, great guy, uh soldier

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Speaker 3: all the way Jaguars strength coach, the original one loved them, right, Okay,

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Speaker 3: so JP just thinking out loud here, Okay, if I've

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Speaker 3: got offensive lineman, yeah, okay, over here doing squats and

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Speaker 1: Probably not to that effect of what those guys are doing.

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Speaker 3: Well, No, I don't want my quarterback doing a hand

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Speaker 3: clean or squats.

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Speaker 1: Squat's now.

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Speaker 3: I mean then if you're a running quarterback these days,

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts probably does some squat well. I mean, look

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Speaker 3: okay with squats, and he controlled.

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Speaker 1: Weight, you know, so you get sure very strict. This

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Speaker 1: guy was making Brunell do squats today clean I'm.

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Speaker 3: Telling you Brunell hurt his back. I think it was

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Speaker 1: Because he was doing hand cleans. Come and I was like,

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Speaker 3: Why don't we have our quarterback doing hand cleans? You know,

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Speaker 3: hand cleans you kind of get the weight right below

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Speaker 1: You kind of need those check.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, that's a million dollar risk that we're

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Speaker 3: it all changed. Mark wasn't doing hand cleans anymore after that.

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Speaker 3: But I was sitting there thinking looking at marking the

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Speaker 3: and I was like, what are we doing? I mean,

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Speaker 3: do we really want our starting quarterback or potential starting

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Speaker 3: to be Burlin Steve Barline Burline. But yeah, it was uh,

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Speaker 3: the culture building process with Caulflin. Okay, now we all

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Speaker 3: the same. It just doesn't work because position groups are different.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, I mean, since nineteen ninety five,

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Speaker 3: I don't have to tell you or anybody, I mean,

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Speaker 3: technology has changed too, and the way they take time

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Speaker 3: everything in the conditioning phase of this diet analysis, die composition.

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Speaker 3: The technology that is in sports recovery, I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: just completely different, not even close to what it was

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Speaker 3: in ninety five. And we didn't have cryo chambers. We

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Speaker 3: didn't have what's that thing, the thing you can sleep

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Speaker 3: we had to have trash cans for an ice tub

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Speaker 1: Now they have.

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Speaker 3: Cold tubs, hot tub cold that uh that you know,

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Speaker 3: will still around. Uh yeah you might be Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we had. That was one of the funniest moments ever.

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Speaker 1: I don't even want his story.

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Speaker 3: So we're in the cold tub, which this cold tub

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Speaker 3: I wrote a whole speech out for him. I figured that,

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Speaker 3: period of you stay in your own trash can outsh brutal.

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Speaker 3: Now, if that doesn't sell season tickets, I don't know

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Speaker 1: New season is right around the corner.

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Speaker 3: Get those twenty twenty five season ticket memberships down and

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Speaker 1: That was funny. It was a funny moment.

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Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 5: I've been here a lot just because of rehab and

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Speaker 3: in season. The offseason program underway. We're at the Hyundai

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Speaker 3: from Foyer, Luik and Jaguars linebacker. But there's a quarterback

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Speaker 1: That's a good sign.

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Speaker 3: He said he's gonna be in a little bit of

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Speaker 1: There's no real rush.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure you know, what Trevor's alluding to is

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Speaker 3: is doing is slowing it down for us to understand it.

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Speaker 3: But there are probably split second times between a two

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Speaker 3: B two C or one two three option.

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Speaker 5: You know what.

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 3: He could change with coverage too, right, I mean the

444
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Speaker 3: coverage just changing that Okay, we're that throws off the

445
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Speaker 3: timing and we're changing.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot.

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm looking forward to seeing. I mean, this

448
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Speaker 3: is a big year for Trevor.

449
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Speaker 1: I mean it is. It's a big year.

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Speaker 3: You know, we got a new contract last year, A

451
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Speaker 3: lot invested in them. Now on what I would consider

452
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Speaker 3: his second head coach because the first one I don't

453
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Speaker 3: I don't even factor that one in because that was

454
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Speaker 3: a complete washout with Urban. So this is a big

455
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Speaker 3: year for Trevor. And when you're a first overall pick guy,

456
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Speaker 3: I mean there's pressure.

457
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Speaker 1: That comes with that, and that's just part of the territory.

458
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Speaker 3: And Trevor's dealt with pressure his whole life. He's you know,

459
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Speaker 3: essentially been expected to be the guy and to lead

460
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Speaker 3: his team at every level and what she's expected to

461
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Speaker 3: do here. And if there's anybody that's built to handle that,

462
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 3: it's him. From a mental standpoint, I've never seen or

463
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 3: listened to a quarterback that can handle it better than him.

464
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Speaker 3: He's got a great, great mental makeup and I'm looking

465
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Speaker 3: forward to watching him this year under this system, and

466
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Speaker 3: then also with some new weapons and some new guys

467
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Speaker 3: up front. Let's keep him healthy, right, I mean, that's

468
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Speaker 3: just been the catcher kind of goes to the guys

469
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Speaker 3: up front. Absolutely, it does. Part of it's him too,

470
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Speaker 3: the way he plays in a certain style.

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Speaker 1: He's got to protect himself, that's right.

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Speaker 3: We go back to the shoulder thing is yeah, I mean,

473
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Speaker 3: you know, help yourself out of little bit, right, I mean, so,

474
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 3: and those guys up front need to help him out.

475
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Speaker 3: And then and most importantly, I mean the things that

476
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Speaker 3: really ring true and in my ears when Liam talked

477
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Speaker 3: about at the owner's meeting about we've got to help

478
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Speaker 3: him out, We've got we've got to get a running

479
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Speaker 3: game going, and that I mean, and it was just

480
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Speaker 3: so emphatic and and so resolute the way he said it,

481
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Speaker 3: and it's so true because.

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Speaker 1: You heard me JP.

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Speaker 3: I won't use the one word, but complaining that this this,

484
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Speaker 3: they got to be committed to the run more.

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Speaker 1: Wonder what word you were thinking of? It starts with

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Speaker 1: a B and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, And part of the problem goes back to

488
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Speaker 3: when you wanted to run it?

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Speaker 1: Could you run it? No?

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Speaker 3: Look look at all the short hearted situations. I mean,

491
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Speaker 3: when you're dialing up these magical crazy design plays on

492
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Speaker 3: third and one, it means you you can't run the

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Speaker 3: ball when you need to.

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Speaker 1: And the last couple of years.

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Speaker 3: You got you got to get better than what they were,

496
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Speaker 3: and they will get better.

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Speaker 1: They better interior now than they were. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll find out, I think, I think,

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Speaker 1: but you.

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Speaker 3: Know, looking until you line up and play some games,

501
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll we'll find out then, you know. And

502
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 3: here's the reality, the the rebuild or the build, whatever

503
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Speaker 3: you want to call it of this offensive line is

504
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 3: not nearly complete, you know. Good chance they even get

505
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Speaker 3: one on day one. You don't know, but I think

506
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Speaker 3: it's going to be interesting to see because you've got

507
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Speaker 3: to create competition. I like what they did in Free Age,

508
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Speaker 3: seeing that you brought in a guy that can handle

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Speaker 3: the center job. You've brought in a guy who's played

510
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Speaker 3: a lot of Snaps and good Ball and McCarey.

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Speaker 1: But you're not done yet. You got you got a

512
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Speaker 1: ways to go yet.

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Speaker 3: Upfront, I meant to compliment you on your use of resolute.

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Speaker 1: That's a good word. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Every now and again, that's too often. Every now and

516
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Speaker 3: again I pull one out. It's very Virginia of you.

517
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Speaker 3: I don't know about that, it really is. I don't

518
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Speaker 3: know about that. That's yeah, somewhere in the back of

519
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 3: the mind. It was just resting there. And you know

520
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: it's you know, the older you get, jp the harder

521
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Speaker 3: it is to go to the shelf to find words,

522
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I actually had a long

523
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Speaker 3: discussion with a with a mental health person. Okay, yeah,

524
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Speaker 3: this is a cool story. I'll tell you real quick.

525
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Speaker 3: Because there's a lot of people that are getting older,

526
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Speaker 3: right like you.

527
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Speaker 1: We're all getting older. We're all getting older.

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Speaker 3: So the NFL has this thing for former players and

529
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Speaker 3: it's like a mind and body evaluation. Okay, and you

530
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Speaker 3: can do it like every five years. And it's like

531
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Speaker 3: I mean intense physical. When I say intense it's not

532
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: hard for me to do this. It's very thorough, it's

533
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Speaker 3: very complete, and part of it is like a mental

534
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Speaker 3: health evaluation and also where you are, where your mind at,

535
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Speaker 3: you recall, et cetera. And I was talking to this

536
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Speaker 3: doctor and they take you through these things and they

537
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Speaker 3: read these like six words. Okay, ok we'll play the

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Speaker 3: thing with the JP. Okay, ready to JP. We're gonna

539
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Speaker 3: I want to give you five words and I want

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Speaker 3: you to repeat them back to me. Okay, underway program comments,

541
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Speaker 3: talk off season coming, give them back to me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I exactly right.

543
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Speaker 3: And so I'm doing this thing right and I'm trying

544
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Speaker 3: to remember all these words that he just threw at me.

545
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Speaker 3: And I'm getting nervous on my god, and you know,

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Speaker 3: because I have like testing anxiety sometimes or whatever. And

547
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Speaker 3: so I told the guys that John said, I was

548
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Speaker 3: so nervous. Is after the fact I did the test

549
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Speaker 3: and he said, you did great, and I was like,

550
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Speaker 3: you know, I had so much anxiety about this test.

551
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Speaker 3: He said, look, he goes reality is because he was

552
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Speaker 3: trying to We were talking about football or something, and

553
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: he was he was an LSU guy and he's trying

554
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Speaker 3: to remember some great players at LSU. And I was like,

555
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 3: so I'm not the only one that forgets. You're forgetting too.

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Speaker 1: And he said, look, he said, you look at it

557
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Speaker 1: this way. He said, the older you get, it just.

558
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Speaker 3: Takes you a little bit more time to go through

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Speaker 3: the file to find out.

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Speaker 1: That piece of information.

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Speaker 3: He goes, The younger you are, it's a little easier

562
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Speaker 3: to find because you also haven't built up a big

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Speaker 3: file system yet.

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Speaker 1: He said.

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Speaker 3: The older you get, the file system is a little

566
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Speaker 3: bit bigger, and it takes a little bit longer because

567
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Speaker 3: you know some of the Brian the brain said, just

568
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Speaker 3: takes a little while to go find it made me

569
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Speaker 3: feel better. Yeah, anyway, we're used to the dow totally

570
00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: awesome track there of football. But nonetheless, good story, pretty

571
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: cool story, good stories. We're back in a moment. Hey,

572
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: the draft is two weeks away and it's time to

573
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Speaker 3: celebrate the fifth overall pick with a newly released draft cap.

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Speaker 3: It's harder to speak when you get older, too. Give

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Speaker 3: me those five words again. Don't miss your chance secure

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Speaker 3: one of those limited edition hats and you can shop

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Speaker 3: Electric Center or head to Jaguars dot Com and get

579
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Speaker 3: the exclusive draft cap.

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Speaker 1: Today, we'll hear from Foyer.

581
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Speaker 3: Look and when we come back, we'll discuss some draft items.

582
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Speaker 3: I know you've been watching your film this week. I

583
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 3: had been watching a little bit of that.

584
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Speaker 1: We'll get to that when we come back.

585
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: On TOXL, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour.

587
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: We didn't win last year, so I think whatever changes

588
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: that are coming are accepted because obviously we didn't play

589
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: up to the stand that we needed. So whatever was

590
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: going on, you know, if it's if it's you can't

591
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: really promise more wins. But obviously we needed maybe a

592
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Speaker 2: new way to attack the season, a new way to

593
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Speaker 2: attack the off seasons and stuff. So I think everybody's

594
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Speaker 2: very accepting of everything new that's in store for us.

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Speaker 2: You know that that equates to more wins.

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Speaker 3: For YEA Lucan Jaguars linebacker, speaking with the media yesterday,

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm JP Shadwick. Did

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Speaker 3: anybody ask him what position he's going to play?

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Speaker 1: That's Jeff Vloghman.

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Speaker 3: I know they did not That would have been a

601
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Speaker 3: great question to ask, I'm curious we're gonna, you know,

602
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: not rotate off the field this year.

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Speaker 1: Jeez, that's what I'm curious about.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'll ever forget the defensive coaching

605
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Speaker 3: job from twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean we'd like to at some point.

607
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 3: You got to move forward. This is what they're talking about, right. Hey,

608
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: last year wasn't good enough. The thing just was baffling

609
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Speaker 3: to me last year.

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00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: As you can see, I'm not over again.

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00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: This is the time he got over and we're gonna

612
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: we're gonna talk through this together. Okay, Yes, let's do

613
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: that so we can move forward. Why would you take

614
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: an NFL leading tackler, okay, that's played the Mike position

615
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Speaker 3: for the last number of years at a very high level,

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Speaker 3: and then move him to a different position. Help me

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00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 3: understand that move? They move, They move Devon inside. Didn't

618
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: they correct? Which I mean to be honest with you, Look,

619
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Speaker 3: Devon had had some trouble. Mike is the captain of

620
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Speaker 3: the ship without question, and Foyer is a great leader

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Speaker 3: by example, vocally, everything, the way he carries himself, the

622
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Speaker 3: way he works, all of it. Really good free agent signing,

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Speaker 3: great signing. I mean legitimate, great free agent signing, one

624
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Speaker 3: of the one of the best, and you're gonna move

625
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Speaker 3: him to Will. And I'm not trying to bring Devin

626
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Speaker 3: Lloyd into the conversation because that shouldn't have any bearing

627
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Speaker 3: on it whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's why, But it shouldn't have whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: That positioned good, you're good. I'm just telling you why

630
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Speaker 3: if it does if Devin doesn't, it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: If he's a better mic.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's say Devon's a better Let's say he's a

633
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: better mic than a Will, not better mic than, but

634
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Speaker 3: just a better mic that he plays.

635
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Speaker 1: At Will.

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Speaker 3: Too bad, Okay, because is a really good mic, and

637
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: we're not gonna take a guy that can maybe be

638
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: a little better as a mic to make a guy

639
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Speaker 3: who's in a really good mica getting two positions at

640
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: that point totally instead of just one. Totally figure it out.

641
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: I mean, he got one position that's just jam up.

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00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: Leave him there, figure something out for the next Okay.

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00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: I won't bring that up every Akay, so now, but

644
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: until wait a minute, that question's got to be answered.

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00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: At some point it will be. Yeah, it's not the

646
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Speaker 3: last time we'll hear from four. Everybody's excited. I would

647
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Speaker 3: wish somebody had asked him that question, because I mean,

648
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: you could tell last year it was just he'd get

649
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: asked the question about the position switch, and you could

650
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Speaker 3: just you. I mean, look, I've read between the line.

651
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Speaker 3: I mean, I look, I played the game, and you

652
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Speaker 3: can just tell when a player is not very happy.

653
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Speaker 3: But he's the type of guy that's gonna but yeah,

654
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Speaker 3: but he was like that, biting his inside of his lip.

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Speaker 3: You know, you could just tell.

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Speaker 1: That he was.

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Speaker 3: It was not a comfortable situation for him, and he

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Speaker 3: didn't play as well last year because he was out

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Speaker 3: of position. Anyway, that's just me on a rent there.

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Speaker 3: What was our defensive coordinator's name last year? I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to know. I mean that file, I

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Speaker 3: threw it away, you know how I was trying to

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Speaker 3: retrieve it. I don't know you're still opening it there

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Speaker 3: for a second. I mean, but it's just because, look,

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Speaker 3: I want Foyer to be at his best, and when

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Speaker 3: he's at his best has been when he has been

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Speaker 3: playing Mike.

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Speaker 1: And he's a good football player.

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Speaker 3: And the most impressive thing about him is his stamina,

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Speaker 3: which is comparable to nobody.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say nobody.

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Speaker 3: There's got some guys that play with great stamina, but

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Speaker 3: he's one of the most impressive guys I've ever seen

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Speaker 3: in that department.

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Speaker 1: And that was before they took him off the field

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Speaker 1: for twenty stamps a game. What are we doing? Just

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Speaker 1: you're trying to get me gold on this? Ryan Nielson

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Speaker 1: brought it up. He was a defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: Last Yeah, boy, that was that was a doozy.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: Hey, by the way, there's the schedule of Daily's Place,

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Speaker 1: The ticket is still good?

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Speaker 3: Is that that Twain's later in the year, July twenty ninth, nice,

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Speaker 3: I think that's right around the start of training camp.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'll go check that out. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: he's been he's been great for a long time, long time. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: she's been really good. She's Canadian, you know, so does

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Speaker 3: she have to pay tariffs? Don't know the answer to that.

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Speaker 3: Tickets at Dailiesplace dot com more sill information. That's a

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Speaker 3: good question. Yeah, it changes daily. By the way, I

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Speaker 3: hope we're taxing her on an American dollars she's earning

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Speaker 3: before she returns to Canada.

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Speaker 1: That's Jeff Logoman. I'm JP Shadwick. Today's hellingm Jaguars dot com.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, people relax, relax, We're just having fun.

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft two weeks from tonight, Round one.

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Speaker 3: Can't wait. Uh and uh, we're gonna have a radio

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Speaker 3: show for that. Shocking it happens like every year it does.

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Speaker 3: And breaking news. We're doing something that happens all the time. Well,

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Speaker 3: you know we had Baselli on in the past.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's a good point.

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Speaker 3: So well, he's an executive now, so you gotta, you know,

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Speaker 3: schedule out time with him way in advance. Are we

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Speaker 3: gonna Are we gonna get him at in some capacity?

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Speaker 3: I could see they maybe like post pic maybe Okay,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking out out too.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we can get some inside information death for our

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Speaker 3: radio broadcast.

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Speaker 1: I doubt that why not. He's like a vault. He's

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Speaker 1: a vault. Yeah, okay, I think I felt.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that you know, you have a closer relationship. I

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Speaker 3: just thought maybe he know the guy he throws a

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Speaker 3: bone right, you know, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Throws a bone tone.

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Speaker 3: Come on, I don't even know him.

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Speaker 1: I don't know this. Do you don't know that guy?

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Speaker 3: I don't know this to change, he's changed whole lot,

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Speaker 3: not even the same guy, not even close. What's the

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Speaker 3: what's the what's the famous song? There's a lot of

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Speaker 3: famous songs I have about that. Now there's a it's

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Speaker 3: a it's Joe Fortunado would know this. It's a song.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I go to parties sometimes until four, and he

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Speaker 3: talks about people change.

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Speaker 1: I haven't changed, Joe Walsh. Thank you, Yeah, thank you?

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Speaker 1: Folder change. Yeah, I found it faster, did well. You're

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Speaker 1: younger than me. You can say that again. I am

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Speaker 1: much younger.

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Speaker 3: You're getting older now I am. Let's go back in

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Speaker 3: a moment. We'll have our final thoughts. If we can

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Speaker 3: find them.

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Speaker 1: We search, We'll do.

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Speaker 3: If we can use AI to help out this whole

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Speaker 3: folder finding stuff we don't help, we can get Yeah,

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Speaker 3: UNTENTEDXL Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.

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Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hours.

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Speaker 4: Before we can do anything, we've got to be able

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Speaker 4: to show them that at least we do we care right,

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00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 4: We care first, and we care about not only the

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Speaker 4: success of the organization but also the development of the player.

747
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Speaker 4: And when they know that, hey, we're here to truly

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Speaker 4: help see you become the best version of yourself both

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Speaker 4: on and off the field. Once we establish those lines

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Speaker 4: start to have more intimate conversations, well that's usually when

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Speaker 4: you feel them start to maybe let's the guard down

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Speaker 4: and say, Okay, hey, I'm open to hearing maybe a

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Speaker 4: new way of learning or a different way of doing this,

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Speaker 4: and vice versa for coaches as well.

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Speaker 3: Liam Cohen, Jaguars head coach Yesterday full media availabilities with

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Speaker 3: the He and Trevor Lawrence plus Foyer Lucan at Jaguars

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Speaker 3: dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 3: JP Shadwick with Jeff Blogaman. We're at the Hundai Studios

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Speaker 3: the Miller Electric Center on Tintedexel, Jaguars dot Com and

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Speaker 3: Jaguars YouTube and Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Dream

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Speaker 3: Finders Homes, official homebuilder of the Jacksonville Jaguars Lodgs.

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Speaker 1: I care about you, man. Just know that first, and

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Speaker 1: then we can move forward. Great.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that too, draft talk. Appreciate that. So that'll

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Speaker 3: help us have a better working relationship. That's right, Okay, Great,

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Speaker 3: you got to start with a good foundation. Great, and no,

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Speaker 3: we're all on the same page and we can move forward. Right,

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Speaker 3: that's what they're doing, right. That's why you know, and

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Speaker 3: I kid some but that this time of year, in

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Speaker 3: the first meetings for the coaching staff in front of

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Speaker 3: the team, those first impressions, you know, they go a

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Speaker 3: long way. And we heard a lot, you know, in

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Speaker 3: the aftermath of last season that some of the new

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Speaker 3: staff that had come in We heard pretty quickly and

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Speaker 3: the after math of it that, okay, we we kind

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Speaker 3: of knew earlier this is going to be an interesting year.

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Speaker 3: So that's why these are so important right now. It

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Speaker 3: was a little rocky to start with last year from

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Speaker 3: what we understood, and that it didn't really get much better.

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Speaker 3: So look, there's only one first impression, and I think,

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Speaker 3: uh and that and that goes both ways. Now, you know,

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Speaker 3: from from the coaches to the players and from the

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Speaker 3: players to the coaches. So uh, I think, uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: but it's not the only chance to make an impression.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's plenty of more opportunities through your hard work, dedication,

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Speaker 3: the kind of person you are, the kind of work

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Speaker 3: ethic that you carry, how you try to bring others

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Speaker 3: with you and to and to raise others around you,

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Speaker 3: raise the level of others around you. So look, I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to, uh to the off season stuff.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to the OTAs. I understand that we're

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Speaker 3: going to be able to maybe take a peek a

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Speaker 3: few I think, at more OTAs than we have in

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Speaker 3: the past, which is great because look, football science is

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Speaker 3: uh is not something that should be so secretive.

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Speaker 1: I mean, people know what you're gonna do. Come on,

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Speaker 1: you know, you don't need to.

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Speaker 3: Have this seclusion, you know, this cloud of secrecy around

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Speaker 3: what you're doing, and if they're you know and so

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Speaker 3: u and especially with a new staff, I mean you

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Speaker 3: would think that they would want to have some of that,

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Speaker 3: but uh, it's football, it's not rocket science.

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Speaker 1: I mean you also don't want to like just open

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Speaker 1: up the gates all the time. No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you don't want to have you know,

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Speaker 3: media guys out there watching you left weights or something

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 1: But the practices.

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Speaker 3: Look, I've always been a big believer in this and

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Speaker 3: that as athletes and performers, you perform in front of people.

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Speaker 3: You play in front of people, So why not try

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Speaker 3: to create anything that can be similar to that and

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Speaker 3: as often as you can.

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Speaker 1: I remember the some of.

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Speaker 3: The best practices that ever had in training camps were

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Speaker 3: the ones that were going against other teams and the

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Speaker 3: public was there to watch, you know, I mean, it

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Speaker 3: kind of creates a heightened level of awareness and a

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Speaker 3: heightened level of intensity, and so any any way that

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Speaker 3: you can try to elevate that I think is a positive.

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Speaker 1: Was that the same when they had the pads off

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Speaker 1: against the Bucks last year? What in the world was that?

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Speaker 1: I'm just asking, just asking.

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Speaker 3: So there you go, you're trying to take me down

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Speaker 3: that road again, asking a question.

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Speaker 1: I'm not did that happen that day? I'm not biting.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not biting that in front of fans.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna bite. I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna I'm not.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, bump the man.

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Speaker 3: They needed to get refreshed JP and ready for the game. Okay,

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Speaker 3: it was smart getting ready for this law physical can

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Speaker 3: I just that was baffling. Yeah, I'm not going down

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Speaker 3: that right. I'm not Yeah, trying to get you to

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Speaker 3: turn the left down.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take a left. I'm gonna stay right. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: in that case, for two weeks in the road, I'm

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Speaker 1: staying to the right. You're gonna take it. I'm staying

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Speaker 1: to the right. NFL Draft two weeks out? Where are

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Speaker 1: you now? At number five? What are you? What are you?

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Speaker 3: What is your you know, depends on the forehead. I

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Speaker 3: get it. But what do you really want right now?

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Speaker 3: Don't tell me a really good football player?

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Speaker 1: Give me give me a name.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: I could give you a bunch of names.

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Speaker 3: Brandon Graham, I could give you the tackle that of

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Speaker 3: l l SU what's his name? Banks to tackle out

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Speaker 3: of Texas?

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Speaker 1: Will Will Campbell out.

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Speaker 3: LSU, Travis Hunter. He's there at five, take them. If

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Speaker 3: he's there at five, take them. Yeah, you run to the.

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Speaker 1: Don't it's you know?

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Speaker 3: And I think that's partly the problem. You know, some

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Speaker 3: of the best players in this draft are not necessarily

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Speaker 3: being talked about. So, first off, like the quarterbacks, if

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Speaker 3: if the position didn't merit the importance, would these two

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Speaker 3: guys be at the top.

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Speaker 1: We have this a lot of years, we have this conversation.

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Speaker 3: Right, It's kind of like running back, right, running back's

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Speaker 3: been devalued, quarterback has been.

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Speaker 1: Really amped up in value.

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Speaker 3: Right, So we're talking about two quarterbacks at the top

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Speaker 3: of the draft, but we're not talking about Jenny at

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Speaker 3: the top of the draft because he's a running back.

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Speaker 3: So you know, it's just everybody has values assigned to

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Speaker 3: different things. Offensive linemen, okay, big guys. Foundational players want

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Speaker 3: to get the running game better, right, Well, natural way

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Speaker 3: to do that, get better offensive linemen, right, create competition.

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Speaker 3: So could they go offensive lineman to tackle out of Texas?

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Speaker 3: Good player tackle out? And you know, let me just

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Speaker 3: say this about when I talk about players. I don't

873
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Speaker 3: know if these guys are if they're intelligence, is you know,

874
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Speaker 3: a level rocket science or box of rocks?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I just watched the film. Okay, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if these.

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Speaker 1: Guys are.

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Speaker 3: The kind of guy that I would want to have

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Speaker 3: marry my daughter or are they the kind of guy

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Speaker 3: that deserves to be locked up.

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00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't tell all of that when

883
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Speaker 1: I watched the film.

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Speaker 3: I just watched the film, and there's some good offensive

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00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 3: lineman on film. The tackle out of Ohio State who

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Speaker 3: had an injury last year. He might be the most

887
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Speaker 3: talented offensive lineman of.

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Speaker 1: All of them.

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Speaker 3: Great athlete, the tackle Membo Missouri you're talking about, I mean,

890
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Speaker 3: talk about an athlete. I don't know if he's a

891
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 3: tackle though, probably a guard. Is he better than the

892
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: Missouri tackle we got last year?

893
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: Foster? Oh yeah, yeah, it's not even close.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Javon Foster struggled even I think get active

895
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Speaker 3: on game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he was.

897
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Speaker 3: He maybe once or twice maybe. I mean, he's got

898
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Speaker 3: all he's got. He's got a long way to go. Okay,

899
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 3: he's got a long way to go. But there's some

900
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 3: great offensive lineman the This is the.

901
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Speaker 1: Scenic route to the answer to the question. I don't

902
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Speaker 1: have an answer.

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00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: I told you this last week, and I'm still sticking

904
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Speaker 3: by my guns. And it was interesting because I was

905
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Speaker 3: reading one of the general manager's comments today and he

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Speaker 3: was talking about there is probably going to be less

907
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Speaker 3: trade activity in this draft, just because there's not most

908
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 3: likely going to be as many teams wanting to move up,

909
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Speaker 3: and the general manager talked about how you can probably

910
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Speaker 3: get a player. I think it's the comment that he

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Speaker 3: used in the second round that's probably about the same

912
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Speaker 3: as the fourth round. I think the first round is

913
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Speaker 3: kind of similar, and that you've got those elite players

914
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 3: at the top, and then once you get past them,

915
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Speaker 3: you have some players that are kind of all together,

916
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: and so they're more than likely going to be some

917
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: teams looking to trade down, and which is what I

918
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: said from the beginning that I would love to see

919
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Speaker 3: this team trade down. But I know what you're going

920
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: to ask there. You can't trade and you got to

921
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 3: make a pick. Who was drafted at one, two, three,

922
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: four before I make a pick? Well that's I mean,

923
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Speaker 3: I didn't ask you that. I asked you what would

924
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Speaker 3: you like? Well, you know, I like, I like a

925
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame offensive lineman. Okay, that's gonna go. Is

926
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Speaker 3: there a Hall of Fame offensive lineman? Of those guys

927
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Speaker 3: you talked about, I think they're really good.

928
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a Hall of Fame offensive Okay, Well,

929
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Speaker 1: then you're in the wrong draft for that.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean you got to make a pick, right,

931
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Speaker 3: I mean, and you want to get better run in

932
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Speaker 3: the football.

933
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Speaker 1: You know you're going running back.

934
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Speaker 3: No, I'm not going I thought you were about to

935
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Speaker 3: say no, no, no, no, no, I'm.

936
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Speaker 1: Not going running back.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but I mean there's some offensive linemen are

938
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Speaker 3: really good in that draft. Graham's a really good player,

939
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Speaker 3: Mason Graham defensive tackle. What happens if Sanders is there

940
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Speaker 3: at five? You probably get now you're talking about trading down?

941
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Speaker 3: Could you in theory? Could you maybe? But why is

942
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 3: he sliding? I don't know, you know, that'd be a question.

943
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

944
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Speaker 3: Maybe some teams are scared of drafting them because of the.

945
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Speaker 1: The Dion effect.

946
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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think it's an interesting conversation.

947
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Speaker 3: And I think the most interesting conversation is, Look, everybody

948
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 3: expects this football team to maybe go I think on

949
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: first class most people either Brandon Graham or offensive line right,

950
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Speaker 3: most people are thinking that. And that's where if you

951
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 3: look at all the mocks, you see that kind of

952
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: happening with the Jaguars quite often.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna happen or not. I

954
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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing. We have no track record on

956
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Speaker 3: James Gladstone zero. Okay, all I know. Give me some

957
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Speaker 3: player that is intangibly rich that's going to fit in

958
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Speaker 3: the ecosystem, and that's a perennial pro bowler and if

959
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Speaker 3: he's Hall of Fame caliber guy, eventually awesome.

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Speaker 1: That's Jeff Logan. I'm JP shattered.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to our entire crew, Brent Reaver, David Joe, Joe Fortunado,

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Speaker 3: our timekeeper, Tyler Stidham, and William P's on the digital side.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour.