1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the shorty. I'm Josh, there's Chuck, 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: there's Jerry. We don't say last names on these because 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: we're crunched for time. Does that mean we need to 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: say welcome to the long form when it comes to 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: the other ones? All right, I think that's a great idea. 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: Change is good, But you have to roll your L 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the long for WHOA, I didn't know you 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: were so good at that. Wait, there's an L, N 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: and R in there. Let's see if I can do it. 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the long from How is that you look 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: like and sound like you're underwater and eating peanut butter? Uh? 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: Speaking of eating peanut butter, did you know that in 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: ancient Rome, if you ate a couple of gallons of 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: peanut butter, it was very acceptable to stroll on over 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: to a vomitorium and throw it up and stick a 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: feather down your throat, or have sorry, have some young 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: child stick a feather down your throat, or Bill murray 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: so you could so you could throw up and then 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: eat even more peanut butter. That's right, Chuck, that's an 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: indisputable fact of history. Not true. No, And you know 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: what something was bugging me researching this, I was like, 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: I feel like I've said something like on the podcast 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: before where I referenced this being correct and it wasn't. 24 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: I probably did. But I'm in pretty good company because 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: we've got this idea that that, yeah, in ancient Rome, 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: it was totally normal to go throw up basically binge 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: and purge, but purge in like a public area that's 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: designated to go purge. Um that that's been around for 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: at least since the nineteen twenties, and we can trace 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: it all the way back to Algius Huxley. Actually, who 31 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: who created this misconception? Yeah, I mean I thought this 32 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: was a true fact up until two days ago. Basically 33 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: everyone does. So don't feel bad again. You're in the 34 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: company of Algius Huxley. How you pren on that Huxley? 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: Not the first name Algius Algius? What do you pronounce 36 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: it as Deletrius? I think you're you're swapping the U 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: and the oh Aldus Aldus. I think it's Aldus. Oh, 38 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 1: I like Algius, all right, I've re christened him. Well, 39 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: he was a very alguous person. I don't know what 40 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: that word means. I just made it up, Okay, good, 41 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: because I was really embarrassed for a second. Yeah. So apparently, well, 42 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: let's go back to Rome to quote the Great Frank 43 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 1: Black and the Catholic song, uh vomitorius, which is the 44 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: pull of vomitory Um. There were these things in ancient Rome, apparently, 45 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: but it was just a very well, to my ear, 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: weird name for a very u now common thing. Yeah, 47 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: and they actually know who was the first two references 48 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: a guy named Macrobius back in the fourth century CE. 49 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: He just used it as a term to describe, based clear, 50 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: a passage into and out of, say like the Colosseum, 51 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: where people would be disgorged out at such a gross 52 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: word into like um. Like you've been to Colosseum, right 53 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: to the Colosseum, Yeah, okay, same here. It's an amazing place. Um, 54 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: and there's there's just a lot of walking space that's 55 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: actually really effectively designed. And one of the reasons why 56 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: it's so effectively designed is because of these passageways to 57 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: basically to your seat and then back out into the 58 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: main walkway around the perimeter inside the Colosseum. Those places 59 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: in and out between the two those are vomitoria. Yeah, 60 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: what's what do we call them today? It's a not 61 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: a portal but a portico maybe. No. I mean it's 62 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: just like it's like any modern stadium design. It's the 63 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: the hallway open thing that you walk through and then 64 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: you're like, now I'm in the stadium. What do you 65 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: call concourse? No? I think we should just go back 66 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: to calling the vomitoria. Yeah, I'm gonna say that next 67 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: time I go to a Falcons game. Hey, meet me 68 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: at the vomatory to pardon me? Can you direct me 69 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: to my vomatorium? I can't think of the word, and 70 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: it's really bugging me. I know what you're talking about, 71 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: and I want to say it's like portal too. I mean, 72 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: it is a portal. Maybe some people call them that, 73 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: but I think that's what they're called, like sports. Yeah, 74 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: so there were seventy six of these though around up 75 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: and down the coliseum. And apparently did you say how 76 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: many people that they could shuttle in and out of there? Yet? No? 77 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: Apparently fifty thousand people could get in and out of 78 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: this thing, uh and like to their seats within about 79 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. That's not bad, that's amazing. Can you imagine 80 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: the porschemoho I just sit there in time it by 81 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: looking at the sun, so many went blind right until 82 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: it finally happened. They'd have to replace the first in 83 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: every thirty seconds they were carting him away. Would be like, 84 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: I got thirty seconds. Uh, what is the name of 85 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: those things that's gonna buck me? I don't know. Uh. 86 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: Should we take a break and talk about Aldus Huxley again? Algius? 87 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: All right? Right after this? All right, so you set 88 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: us up with Algius Huxley. What in the world did this? 89 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: How could in the world could he have affected this? 90 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess he just heard of it before, 91 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: and basically he mentions it in passing in a single line. 92 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: He wrote a comic novel um called Antick Hay about 93 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: post World War one decadent like upper upper class society 94 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: and um he just basically mentioned like a goth coming 95 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: into a vomitorium, and UM. I from the line I 96 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: saw it didn't even really seemed to be like he 97 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: was talking about the goth was gonna come throw up 98 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: or anything like that. Um. But that was the first 99 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: instance they could find if somebody using it not in 100 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: the way that Macrobius was was using it as that 101 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: portal thingy. Right, So so they think that he was 102 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 1: the first one to say this or put it down 103 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: and pen to paper. And you have to give him 104 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: a break because he just injected a tremendous amount of 105 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: LSD under his own eye before he started writing this, right, 106 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: So we're gonna excuse him. The next person who gets 107 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: zero excuse whatsoever is Lewis Mumford. And he was an historian, 108 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: he was a critic. He should have known better. He 109 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: did not do his which apparently had been reading al 110 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: Drus Huxley and just basically cited it as fact in 111 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: one of his books, The City in History. Yeah, and 112 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: he he full on to find it as uh, where 113 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: you over eat and you go and make yourself throw 114 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: up And he just made that up. Yeah, as a 115 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: fan of Huxley's I guess yeah, I guess so. I 116 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: don't think he ever took a drop of acet either. 117 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: He has zero excuse Lewis Mumford does. Uh. Well, here's 118 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: the thing though, and this is where it does get 119 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: kind of gross, because even though they did not originate 120 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: in ancient Rome, there are real vomitoriums, apparently in places 121 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: like Vietnam, and I look this up and I was 122 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: trying to find a picture and I did find one, 123 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: and it looks like where you would go to the 124 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: sink and wash up in a public bathroom. But it 125 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: has it looks like a tiny toilet bowl, like it's 126 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: got the shape of a toilet bowl on a you know, 127 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: like waist high. And then above this least this one 128 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: it had a little tiny toilet tank. Even it looks 129 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: like a miniature toilet except waiste high. So I saw 130 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: when that was like a big stainless steel sink with 131 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: like one of those like dishwasher like you have you 132 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: ever washed dishes for a living? That was the first job. 133 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: So you know, that's right. We talked about that, didn't 134 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: you read out like everybody? And the Chase Barbecue? I 135 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: didn't d out anybody. What are you talking about? What 136 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: was it? I worked at JJ's. I was a boy 137 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: and dishwasher, but they stuck their tennis shoe and like 138 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: the Brunswick stewards that. Yeah, but I didn't read amount 139 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: I should have, Okay. Yeah, So anyway, um, so you know, 140 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: like the dishwashing sink thing, the Fawcett it had like 141 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: one of those, so I guess you're expected to rinse 142 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: the sink out after you vomited into it. But the 143 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: way you know what you're doing and I saw your 144 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: picture too, um, is there's a sign, like a like 145 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: a road sign type graphic of of somebody throwing up. Yeah, 146 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: and that's how you know to use it. So it's 147 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: like it's like thick action became reality. Yeah, so like 148 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: it has someone kind of been over heaving out. Uh. 149 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: You know Graphic Spew great great band name, right, they're 150 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: sort of they opened up for Guar for a while. 151 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: Oh man, I'll bet actually I did see a band 152 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: called Vomitory. Um. Oh, I'm sure Graphic Spew though, man 153 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: a lie. But apparently all over ho Chi Minh City 154 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: you can find these things, and some of them even 155 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: have um like pictures of ancient Rome and stuff, I 156 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: guess as a nod to the false claim that they 157 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: started in ancient Rome. My head's about a pop and 158 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: what about Germany? That gets even grosser. So this article 159 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: on how stuff works says that they're puke pants. They're 160 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: known colloquially as a puke pants. Not true. The only 161 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: place I saw that on the internet is in this 162 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: how stuff Works article. But there are vomitoriums in Germany. 163 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: There's a place called Hoffbrow House in Munich. It's a 164 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: beer hall that's known to have I've been there. Oh really, 165 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: I've been to the Hot Boy House. Did you see 166 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: the vomitorium? No, sorry, the puke pan. I did all 167 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: my puking in the potted plants. Oh there, you god, 168 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: I think that's that's ghosh, man, that's like wearing white 169 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: after labor day. No, so there is one at the 170 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: Hot Boy House. Supposedly, that's what I saw on trip Advisor. 171 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: So our article claiming that in German frat houses that 172 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: first of all, I didn't know Germany had fraternitys. That's 173 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: got to be this. This whole thing just stinks of conception. Yeah. 174 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: Well their source was antique dash Photos whatever that is. 175 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: It's a Crystal Lynx site. I think. So. At the 176 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: very least we know that in Germany there are designated 177 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: puke places, and anyone who's I mean, I guess. I mean, 178 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: first of all, you shouldn't be drinking so much that 179 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: you regularly throw up anyway, that's point number one. But uh, 180 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: if you've ever been in a bathroom stall and walked 181 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: in like Oh boy, I gotta pee and it's just 182 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: got vomit every where. It's one of the worst experiences 183 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: you can have as a human. Yeah, especially if you 184 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: don't have to pee but have to pooph We'll forget it. 185 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: It's like Trainspotting. What is I never saw that movie? 186 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: What happens? Then? Well, there's a scene where he goes 187 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: to throw up some heroine that he had ingested so 188 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: he can shoot it. Man. It's like it's a sort 189 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: of a dreamy sequence of the bathroom is labeled as 190 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: the worst bathroom in Scotland, and it's nasty, and he 191 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: pukes in there and then reaches in and eventually you 192 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: and McGregor goes all the way into the toilet and 193 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: swims around. So it's it's a fantasy sequence. It does 194 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: sound a little dreamy, you know, everyone's fantasy about going 195 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: into a poop puke infested toilet and swimming And I'm 196 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: missing out not having seen train Spotting. Yeah, it's a classic. Okay, 197 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: well I'll go check it out. All right, you got 198 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: anything else on this gross? I'm ready to move on. Yeah, 199 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: I am to everybody. We're moving on. If you want 200 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: to get in touch with us. You can go onto 201 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: our website Stuff you Should Know dot com, look for 202 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: our social meds inked, and then send us an email 203 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: to Stuff Podcast at how stuff Works dot com