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Speaker 1: Fue Sports Radio. Doo Doo doo doo do do dude. Hey,

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Speaker 1: welcome in. It's the DG Show. My man Dan Byer's

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Speaker 1: back from guest hosting other shows. The whole crew is here.

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Speaker 1: We're excited to have you. It's a Thursday, which means

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Speaker 1: we got don't call it a throwback Thursday does mean

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Speaker 1: we missed our Wednesday midway, which I love and I

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Speaker 1: had a I know you guys did it. I didn't

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Speaker 1: do it because I wasn't here and I'm mad about it.

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Speaker 1: I had a great midway. What did you guys do?

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Speaker 1: The midway on?

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Speaker 2: Jason Damn Bayer came up with a great concept. I

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Speaker 2: think I think I will say im after after it

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Speaker 2: said that was fun, A great job. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 2: a great job.

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Speaker 1: What was it?

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Speaker 2: Hold on? Hold on? Great.

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Speaker 3: You don't even remember exciting plays in sports off the

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Speaker 3: heels of the inside the park home run, walking off. Great, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that we had on Tuesday night. What are the most

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Speaker 1: That's funny. That was not at all where I was

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Speaker 1: going with it. That was not in any way it

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Speaker 1: I was going somewhere where trying trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: airbnb thing where then you just stayed a place for

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Speaker 1: a week and you become like a Greek citizen for

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Speaker 1: a week, which is more your style. But well, I

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Speaker 1: have to pocket that one for next week. For next week. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we got a great show for you this just in

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Speaker 1: that you may that you may have heard Jalen Williams

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Speaker 1: signs an extension so the with the champion Oklahoma City Thunder.

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Speaker 1: So now the big three for the Thunder Thunder on

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Speaker 1: the hook for somewhere in the neighborhood of eight hundred

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Speaker 1: however many years those max contracts, right, is that those

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is what we have to do.

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Speaker 1: So those extensions I don't think going to effect for

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Speaker 1: get to this kind of a weird story of the week. Ah,

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Speaker 1: collusion between owners and the commissioner to have occurred after

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Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson contract was signed and that trade was

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Speaker 1: not that good. So this is not be being pro

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Speaker 1: terrible contract. Why would I mimic a terrible contract? And

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you defend the Deshaun Watson contract.

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Speaker 1: I just do not. So I'm not pro owner, I'm

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Speaker 1: not anti player. And in the time since the Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Here's some sort of agreement.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Doug I had to step away just because

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Speaker 3: of the Jalen Williams news, so I didn't hear your

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Speaker 3: colluding on that certain topic is probably best overall for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. Again, there's a there's a

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Speaker 3: but I would also think that the reason why the

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Speaker 3: it would hurt a portion of their union, maybe not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they call those guys, they call everybody else the

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Speaker 1: as important to the union. Any union is like that, right,

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Speaker 1: That's that's the part that people don't realize about unions.

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Speaker 3: You're a graduated college fellas in the spring of nineteen nineteen.

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Speaker 2: they said, what are you listening to nowadays? Like, what's

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Speaker 2: what's on your discmand surprise to hear the answer. It

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Speaker 2: went in something like this, Wow, George Lucas, this is

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Speaker 2: Britney Spears her first hit, hit Me Baby, and it

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Speaker 2: launched a career that still goes today. I think she's

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Speaker 2: still doing a Vegas residency. But the I guess the

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Speaker 2: the singer songwriter that will always kind of match with

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Speaker 2: Britney Spears did this song the same year. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: get it now. I was a Christina guy over Brittany. Interesting.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she was way more talented Damns. Yes, Danby's are

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Speaker 5: kind of resident nineties pop expert on the show. Yes,

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Speaker 5: when you look back twenty six years of what has

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Speaker 5: happened to each of these artists, how do you kind

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Speaker 5: of summarize things? Who came out ahead, what impact?

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Speaker 3: Well, I will say at the time, like there was

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Speaker 3: as far as great as Christina Aguilera was at the time,

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Speaker 3: nothing was bigger than Britney Spears and that song and

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Speaker 3: what it what it did. Ultimately, I would say, because

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Speaker 3: of the tough road that Britney drove for the last

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Speaker 3: what ten fifteen years whatever it's been, Christina actually would

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Speaker 3: probably come out. But I just I don't think that

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Speaker 3: there was ever a point where Christina Aguilera was bigger

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Speaker 3: than Britney Spears was at that point.

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Speaker 5: So it was Britney Spears, Coke, and Christina Laria was

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Speaker 5: like Arci Cola.

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Speaker 3: I would say that that, Well, it's funny because Britney

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Speaker 3: was a Pepsi sponsor. But but if you wanted to

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Speaker 3: say that Coke was number one, I think it's very

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Speaker 3: fair to say that Christine the Aguilera was number two.

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Speaker 3: Then you have Jessica Simpson, others, Mandy Moore came along

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Speaker 3: at that time. She's now an actress. But yeah, yes,

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Speaker 3: Chris good parenthood.

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Speaker 5: She's been on the Voice. Christina Aguilera, she was on

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Speaker 5: the Voice, and yeah, she had some great pipes, just great.

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Speaker 2: She did really good. Really really can say so.

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Speaker 1: She could really sing. Uh Where's We kind of talked

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Speaker 1: about this when I hosted Coward yesterday, which is like

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Speaker 1: the Cantlin Clark is she best played in the w NBA. No,

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Speaker 1: but she's the most popular player in the w n

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Speaker 1: B A right, Christina Aguila is a better singer, better

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Speaker 1: singer than Britney Spears, not close, but Britney Spears was

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Speaker 1: more popular.

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Speaker 2: What you're saying is Christina Aguilera is the Brianna Stewart

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Speaker 2: to uh Hatel and Car.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say she's the Page Beckers maybe or

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Speaker 1: the Sabrinette Escu. Yeah, that's fair because Brianna Stewart is

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Speaker 1: an earlier generation, so she'd be more Not Madonna's not

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Speaker 1: that that's like Cynthia Cooper's like Madonna, right, but nobody

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Speaker 1: actually cared, so not really Madonna.

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Speaker 3: How about this? Yeah, how about taking a twelve year

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Speaker 3: old that loves the NFL right now, sitting them down

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Speaker 3: and saying, you know, in nineteen ninety nine, that was

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Speaker 3: the era when the Jaguars and Titans ruled the NFL,

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Speaker 3: because it was at that time, at least in the

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Speaker 3: AFC the Jaguars fourteen and two, Titans thirteen and three.

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Speaker 3: You would also say to that twelve year old, can

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Speaker 3: you believe the Dolphins actually made the playoffs that year

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Speaker 3: and they won a game and they beat the Seahawks,

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Speaker 3: because that also happened in the nineteen ninety nine NFL season.

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Speaker 3: It was Dan Marino's last victory as a quarterback, Doug,

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Speaker 3: you talk about the loss that the it took the

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Speaker 3: next week against the Jaguars, but Marino and the Dolphins

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Speaker 3: went to Seattle topped the Seahawks in an AFC wild

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Speaker 3: card matchup, but the Seahawks won the AFC West that year.

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville and Tennessee were tops in the AFC, but they

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Speaker 3: were both in the AFC Central. The Colts were the

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Speaker 3: division winner in the AFC East at thirteen and three.

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Speaker 2: Peyton Mann in second year.

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Speaker 1: Yes, first first year won three, second year lost three.

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Speaker 5: He finally got some traction.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, they drafted Edgrin James. That was a

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Speaker 2: big help and Marvin Edge.

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Speaker 5: How long was Dan Marino was in the NFL? From

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Speaker 5: what eighty three to ninety nine? He was in the NFL?

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Speaker 5: Long time? Yes, yes, was it eighty three?

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Speaker 1: In fact a long time, not Brady long time.

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Speaker 5: But it feels like a lot, like I don't know,

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Speaker 5: to go from the early eighties to the late night

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Speaker 5: for some reason, that just feels like a long time.

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Speaker 1: That that was the famous eighty three draft class, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, seven sixteen seventeen year career.

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Speaker 2: That's you know, have.

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Speaker 3: Brought up the Music City miracle, but that had up

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Speaker 3: in January eighth, two thousand. Not apropos for this segment.

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Speaker 2: Rob Johnson was the quarterback of the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Rob Johnson, I think I've told this story. He

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Speaker 1: lives in South Orange County. Dude is the most ripped

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Speaker 1: human being I've ever seen. Like it's clean, does hot yoga,

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Speaker 1: shows off, embarrasses all of us. He's Rob Luke. You

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Speaker 1: know Rob is in good shape.

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Speaker 2: Pause, No it's.

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Speaker 1: Not pause No, it's no. Yeah, he's just giving a compliment.

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Speaker 1: That's no way you would say. No, Jase, do you

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Speaker 1: say it? No?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we get it.

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Speaker 2: No, No, home. Dan agrees with me on this one

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Speaker 2: pause pause me.

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Speaker 1: Well, you guys are two of the more hip guys ever,

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Speaker 1: so you can definitely tell what what I did. Well,

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Speaker 1: he threw you in there pause and no, h O

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Speaker 5: All right, Let's go back to Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera.

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Speaker 5: I was always more of a Gimmy gimme moore fan

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Speaker 5: for Brittany and let's get dirty for Christina Aguilar's dirty

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Speaker 5: is great?

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Speaker 1: Ever really a fan of either give Me, give Me More?

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Speaker 5: That's an underrated song.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we forgot about baseball, but that's because the Yankees

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Speaker 3: beat everybody except they swept the Rangers, beat the Red

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Speaker 3: Sox in five games, and then beat the Braves.

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Speaker 2: Is that the World Series?

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Speaker 1: Was that the first World Series for teater No.

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Speaker 2: Ninety six, ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand.

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Speaker 1: My bad? There was that Maria Rivera's first first because

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Speaker 1: they had Wetland.

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Speaker 2: Rivera was a setup man for wet one and six.

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Speaker 1: And then in ninety.

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Speaker 3: Nine MVP There You Go series MVP.

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: join us after we get an update from Dan Byer.

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Speaker 1: Coach Prime's making some waves and Dion's an interesting one man.

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Speaker 1: Like as much as I think everybody would expect him

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Speaker 1: to be, Hey, pay the players as much as they

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Speaker 1: can actually make. Uh, and then some just money, money, money, money, money.

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Speaker 1: The fact is, if you actually listen to many of

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Speaker 1: the things he says, whether they apply to Colorado or not,

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Speaker 1: it's about what we college coaches call the right things.

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Speaker 1: You know, guys have to earn things. Guys should stay

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Speaker 1: at their schools, a degree has a value to them,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, they should make some money. But like, let's

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Speaker 1: not go crazy here. A lot of these guys are

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Speaker 1: getting paid for something we hope they can do and

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Speaker 1: it's not true. Nil. Here's Dion talking about nil in

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Speaker 1: college football.

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Speaker 6: I wish it was a cap, you know, like the

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Speaker 6: top of the line player makes this, and if you're

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Speaker 6: not that type of guy, you know you're not gonna

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Speaker 6: make that.

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Speaker 2: That's what the NFL does.

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Speaker 6: So the problem is you got a guy that's not

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Speaker 6: that durn good, but he could go to another school

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Speaker 6: and they give him a half a million dollars and

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Speaker 6: you can't you can't compete with that. That don't make sense. Say,

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Speaker 6: all you have to do is look at the playoffs

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Speaker 6: and see what those teams spent. And you understand, during

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Speaker 6: the white end the playoffs, it's kind of hard to

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Speaker 6: compete with somebody who's giving twenty five thirty million dollars

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Speaker 6: of during freshman class. Right, It's crazy. The teams that

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Speaker 6: pays the more, pays the most is gonna be then it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's right, you know, it's like, well, no, no,

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Speaker 1: he's right. I mean even Indiana, who I didn't think

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Speaker 1: should have been in the collegeball playoff, they spent a

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Speaker 1: ton of money in order to get there in terms

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Speaker 1: of their personnel. The new agreement is supposed to have

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Speaker 1: a cap on spending twenty two million dollar and you know,

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Speaker 1: I think thirteen of its supposed to go to college

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Speaker 1: to football. But you can also add in nil, which

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Speaker 1: is sometimes real sometimes not anil. In college basketball, I

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Speaker 1: got all but three picks right, and I picked every

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Speaker 1: game based upon who's spent the most money. That's it.

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Speaker 1: So it is really the haves and the have nots.

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Speaker 1: And the part he didn't discuss is that the other

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Speaker 1: real world discussion that isn't at is, Hey, you do

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Speaker 1: realize that a lot of schools were going to lose

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Speaker 1: some Olympic sports because if you want to compete in

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Speaker 1: the revenue generating sports, that money is not You're not

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Speaker 1: making tons of profit at MAX schools, not making tons

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Speaker 1: of profit at all these other schools of football. You're

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Speaker 1: not making a huge money if you don't have football,

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Speaker 1: you're still trying to pay to play in basketball, women's basketball,

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Speaker 1: and potentially football. That means you're not going to be

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Speaker 1: able to fully fund properly Olympic sports. But he's just

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Speaker 1: talking about competitive balance, says it's lacking because there's no cap.

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Speaker 1: John Mitlcoff joints just three and outs to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: He spent some time in Fresno State in college football

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Speaker 1: before moving on to the NFL, before moving on to

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Speaker 1: becoming a star podcaster. What do you think of what

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Speaker 1: Dion said?

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Speaker 7: Well? I followed that a lot of the comments pretty closely.

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Speaker 7: Kenny Dillingham had some too. You know Texas Tech and

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Speaker 7: you know you're a got some big twelve roots. They

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Speaker 7: have that oil guy that's former players. They have spent

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Speaker 7: big time money, and Dillingham was saying yesterday like, guys,

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Speaker 7: be ready, this team is gonna be really, really good.

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Speaker 7: And essentially what he's saying is like they broke the

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Speaker 7: bank this offseason when it came to football. They had

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Speaker 7: arguably the best transfer portal class. You know, you're in

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Speaker 7: it now, and I know it's different than like you know,

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Speaker 7: Ohio State, Michigan and Alabama like recruiting and stuff football wise,

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Speaker 7: but whenever I see like this guy's a great recruiter,

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Speaker 7: I think that used to really matter, like ed Ojeron

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Speaker 7: or Tosh or some of these guys in football, especially

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Speaker 7: like when I was in high school or in college

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Speaker 7: in the two thousands, There is no such thing as

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Speaker 7: a great recruiter anymore. Like are you paying the most money?

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Speaker 7: And like you said, even when the cap comes, like

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Speaker 7: in the NFL, if I'm giving whoever an extension TJ.

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Speaker 7: Watt or Travis Kelcey or obviously the quarterbacks, the whatever

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Speaker 7: they're going to make State Farm or Chevy, that has

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Speaker 7: nothing to do with anything with the team. Where if

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Speaker 7: Kirby Smart goes, well, hey what even once this gap comes,

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Speaker 7: I can pay you let's just take a number five

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Speaker 7: hundred thousand dollars with the cap, but I can also

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Speaker 7: get you half a million dollars in nil, Like he's

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Speaker 7: part of that. Like the other schools don't have that

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Speaker 7: capabilia Ohio State. I mean, there's a group of fifteen

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Speaker 7: twenty that it's only going to continue to separate. Now,

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Speaker 7: you could argue, you know, in college football, college basketball

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Speaker 7: could be a little random, right because of the tournament.

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Speaker 7: Where in football, on the aggregate of the season, typically

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Speaker 7: the same teams year and year out, give or take,

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Speaker 7: are competing, that that's only going to continue to separate.

648
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Speaker 7: But now it's so conference aligned because of the SEC

649
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 7: money and the Big ten TV money, the advantages they have,

650
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 7: They've always had advantages. Now it's only separated. Why Texas

651
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 7: Tech can even you know, dream of competing is because

652
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 7: they have I don't know their version. It's not quite

653
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 7: it's not apples apples, but like a Phil Knight or

654
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 7: you at Oklahoma State, like you have to have a

655
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 7: special individual with huge money to even be in the

656
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Speaker 7: conversation or else you really got no shot.

657
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Speaker 1: I completely agree. And recruiting, recruiting does matter. Recruiting does matter. Okay,

658
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: you still have to connect with the kid. You have

659
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: to paint for them a vision. You're not always they're

660
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: not always going not all of them go to where

661
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: the top dollar is. You know. I think again, high

662
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: level football, I major ball, High major basketball a little

663
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: different than what we're doing. But you still are recruiting,

664
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Speaker 1: and some of it is you got to recruit at

665
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Speaker 1: our level, Recruit guys you're not gonna get, you know, Like,

666
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Speaker 1: I'll just be honest with you, John, I'm recruiting the

667
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: top twenty kids the class of twenty twenty six in

668
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Speaker 1: the state of Wisconsin. I'm recruiting all twenty top the

669
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Speaker 1: ones I've evaluated is the top twenty. I'm recruiting all

670
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Speaker 1: of them. There's only one that I've offered a scholarship to,

671
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Speaker 1: and I think he's a little bit above our level,

672
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Speaker 1: but I think this would be a level where he

673
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: can come in and play initially. And then I'm only

674
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: going to say I told him. I gave him till

675
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Speaker 1: the end of the July cycle. We offered him like

676
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: almost a year ago, and then after that, and now

677
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Speaker 1: I'll start offering because he's the guy I want to

678
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: build around. Like the recruiting class anyway. Point is, I

679
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: know I'm not gonna get all of them. I'm not

680
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Speaker 1: going to offer all of them, but I want them

681
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: to get to know me, and I want to get

682
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Speaker 1: to know them that way in a year, in two years,

683
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: in three years, when they hit the transfer portal, which

684
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 1: many of the high percentage of are, then there's already

685
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: a relationship there, and I already know if I want him,

686
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Speaker 1: if I don't want him, he already knows if he

687
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 1: likes me or doesn't like me. So it does.

688
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Speaker 7: And that was a big advantage for UCLA a couple

689
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 7: of years ago when Chip the two years ago they

690
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 7: had a really solid defense. A lot of those guys

691
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 7: had transferred. They were from la you know, from Michigan

692
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 7: or whatever. It came home. So I totally understand what

693
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 7: you're talking. That's where you're right recruiting. But that's different, right,

694
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 7: You're like recruiting for their second recruiting cycle. You know,

695
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 7: it's just a different world.

696
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: It's a it's a totally different world. Let's get to

697
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Speaker 1: some of Let's get to the the collusion thing. Okay,

698
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: we don't know the details of it, and I do

699
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: know that because you got Florio, who is a lawyer. Uh,

700
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 1: and you have Pablo, who is you know, a Harvard dude,

701
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: brilliant like a lawyer that you know there's something there,

702
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: But there's a there's a fine line between hey, hey,

703
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: this is not good business to give to Shaun Watson

704
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: a five year guaranteed contract in this sport especially and

705
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: outright collusion, which is suppressing wages and elimiting the guarantees.

706
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: What do you think really happened between the union and

707
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: the owners after Deshaun Watson signed his deal?

708
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean to me, I read a couple of headlines.

709
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 7: I'm like, I don't really see anyone. To me, collusion

710
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 7: typically is someone getting royally screwed, and I didn't really

711
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 7: see anyone getting royally screwed here. The other thing is

712
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 7: like Tyler Murray, well, you know, one of those texts

713
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 7: was like a good job, Michael on signing that deal. Well,

714
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 7: Kyler didn't have to sign the deal, right, no one

715
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 7: was forcing him. It was after his third year. He

716
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 7: could have played it out again, like no one's forcing

717
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 7: any of these people to sign deals. And the other thing,

718
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 7: when it comes, you know, specifically out of the conversation,

719
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 7: was around the quarterbacks. How often new quarterbacks not see

720
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 7: like the majority of their contract. It's it's very very rare.

721
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: That, you know.

722
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 7: Russell Wilson is an example of like got cut way short.

723
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 7: Now guaranteed money was so high. He still got a

724
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 7: ton of money, But like did Tyler get screwed? Last

725
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 7: time I checked, He's made like a couple hundred million

726
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 7: dollars the last three four years. So it's like, I

727
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 7: see everyone getting rich in this business model, and you've

728
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 7: been through way more negotiations in your life than me.

729
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 7: I mean, isn't when I read some of these conversations,

730
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 7: Like my first talk was, you know, my dad was

731
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 7: a farmer for a long time. Dealt with banks is

732
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 7: not just called business like I mean, I just it'd

733
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 7: be one thing if the wages or something hadn't gone

734
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Speaker 7: dramatically up. But from my advantage point, it feels like

735
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 7: everyone I would say that there's not a business in

736
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 7: the history of America that's created more millionaires when coaches, players, obviously, owners,

737
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 7: people involved, help people on the outside, media members when

738
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 7: it comes to football, and business continues to just roll.

739
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 7: So I to me, it was it was more of like, yeah,

740
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 7: this is means nothing. I didn't do anything for me.

741
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 7: But again, I'm not those stories.

742
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Speaker 1: I I I totally, I totally agree that it's like

743
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: we're chasing something like, oh, yeah, they're the bad guys.

744
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I again, if you remember when Kyler Murray

745
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: signed the new deal, you know it was after Kyler

746
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: Murray had been accused of playing call of duty too much? Right,

747
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: is this a guy we really want? And oh yeah?

748
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Speaker 1: But it was also if you remember coming off an

749
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: injury too, an't he Uh.

750
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Speaker 7: No, I think he got injured the next year or

751
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 7: maybe he did. I can't even remember, but it was

752
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 7: after a third year, like the first time you can

753
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,959
Speaker 7: negotiate with a with the with the first rounders. Yeah,

754
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 7: and like they didn't have to do that like other quarterbacks.

755
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 7: Hel Lamar didn't get a contract then. But the other

756
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 7: thing is we actually kind of murder was the number

757
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 7: one overall pick. He had already signed like a forty

758
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 7: million dollar contract, then he got another two hundred plus

759
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 7: million dollar contract. I just don't think anyone on the outside,

760
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Speaker 7: mainly the consumer who usually drives a lot of these,

761
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 7: like if they're all into this, it's like, well, who's

762
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 7: who's really getting screwed here, and I think most of

763
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 7: us come to the conclusion that nobody really yeah.

764
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is the Doug Outlive Show, it is Fox

765
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: Sports Radio, Dallas Cowboys, Michaeh Parsons. You know it does

766
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: feel like you know he's playing on the fifth year option.

767
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: What I mean, we all it's funny. Most people think

768
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: he'll be a free agent at the end of the year.

769
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: He won't. They can franchise tag him. Jerry, of course,

770
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: could have signed him last offseason, did not. Says he'd

771
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: rather wait and pay more than pay too much to

772
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: a guy he doesn't want. Where do you think we

773
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: are with Parsons and the Cowboys?

774
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Speaker 7: To me, that's super far about waiting and to pay more.

775
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 7: It's like seedy Lamb and Michael Parsons. Jerry, where your

776
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 7: draft picks. You've been around these guys every day for

777
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 7: whatever five years. I mean, what's for you waiting? You've

778
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 7: seen them their entire career on and off the field.

779
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 7: You've been around them all the time. So it's like

780
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 7: kind of know what he is. I mean, Micah is

781
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 7: like thread making the bank for one of them over

782
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 7: with you. We would trade him like the TJ Watt

783
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 7: hendrickson those older players, that's just like complicated negotiation business.

784
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 7: The micro thing is pretty simple, Like the number is

785
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 7: kind of his number, you know, give or take. Maybe

786
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 7: a couple million you can argue over. But like, why

787
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 7: you know Micah Parson's gonna show up for training camp.

788
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 7: I know he played good copter and the off season,

789
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 7: the spring ball, but recent history would say, guys in

790
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 7: his shoes, you know, kind of make it difficult, you know,

791
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 7: Nick Bosa, We've just seen other guys. Now we see

792
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 7: a lot of teams just sign the contract. I would say,

793
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 7: give or take sometime between you know, post draft to

794
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 7: right around the next couple of weeks so they don't

795
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 7: have to deal with this drama. I think Jerry has

796
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 7: a pretty clear history of like I'm just gonna sign

797
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 7: him like August twenty eight, you know, last possible second.

798
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 7: So that would be my expectation.

799
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he does, and it ends up give

800
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Speaker 1: than the guys a chance to take some time off

801
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: of training camp.

802
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 7: I think I think the TJ. Watt things a little

803
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 7: more complicated. You know, these older guys, they have a

804
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 7: lot of wear and hair on them, but they're really

805
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 7: important and excellent players, Henderson TJ. Watt. You know, it's

806
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 7: in fairness to them. It's like they see the amount

807
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 7: of money other their quote unquote peers are getting and

808
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 7: it's like, well, if I were to shattered my leg,

809
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 7: and these negotiations are hard, Like I understand both sides,

810
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 7: and I don't think there's an easy answer to it.

811
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 7: It's like if you just break here TJ. Watt, here's

812
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 7: another one hundred million dollars guaranteed, or we just kind

813
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 7: of play, you know, a staring contest, you know, because

814
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 7: I think Steelers probably all have to give him, like

815
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 7: a fifty million dollar a little bonus he probably wants,

816
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 7: like what Max Crosby and Miles Garrett just got. But

817
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 7: the problem is he goes, I know you need me

818
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 7: because you guys are all in on this season. That

819
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 7: situation just feels a little just weird, you know what

820
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 7: I mean. The Steelers have always felt a little even

821
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 7: when they quote unquote not been at the same level

822
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 7: last four or five years, like he kind of had

823
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 7: an idea. But now these last couple of years bringing

824
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 7: in Russell Wilson, this situation feet a little of Steeler

825
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 7: like for the first time of the Talblin era.

826
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Speaker 1: I totally agree. What do you make of Kirk Cousins, Like, yeah, hey,

827
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: if I know they're going to drive the quarterback, I

828
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: would have stayed in Minnesota.

829
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 7: I think the easy person to say that, Remember it

830
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 7: was again, I think we're playing like Monday Morning quarterback

831
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 7: of what really could have happened here because I think

832
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 7: Kevin O'Connell liked him, wanted them, but I think the

833
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 7: organization was kind of ready to move on.

834
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: Remember he had he had a torn achilles tendon, right,

835
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: and yes, yes they offered him a deal, but it

836
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: wasn't close to the deal that Atlanta offered him.

837
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 7: Right, And it wasn't. Wasn't it more like, I mean

838
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 7: a one yearish like forty fifty You know, they gave

839
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 7: him essentially ninety million dollars. Yeah, I guarantee I think

840
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 7: anyone was even coming close to that, even if you

841
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 7: take away minnesot To, I don't think he had that

842
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 7: many options. Yeah, so I think it's easy for him

843
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 7: to say, I don't waive them. They offered him ninety million. Honestly,

844
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 7: it's a reflection of the organization when they gave him

845
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 7: that money. They didn't realize because they had new coaching staff,

846
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 7: they hadn't fallen in love with Michael Pennix. So they

847
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 7: signed them in the middle of March, and then they

848
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 7: start doing their private workouts meeting with Penix, and they

849
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 7: fall in love with the guy. So, if anything, is

850
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 7: more of a reflection of the herky jerky nature of

851
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 7: the Atlanta for An office because they knew they were

852
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 7: drafting Pennix. Let's let's be real, they would have given

853
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 7: like ten million dollars to UH for like a flat

854
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 7: okase keenum. I got just a high level back up,

855
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 7: impressive guy that got to help the young guy, and

856
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 7: it'll probably even end up being the backup.

857
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: What we want, which by which, by the which, by

858
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: the way, is what the Vikings did, right, exactly the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings went and they're like, hey, we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: cheap and we're gonna draft a guy, which is what

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Speaker 1: the Vikings would do. The other part to it is this,

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Speaker 1: and I was thinking about this that Cousins complained about this.

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins has mastered the business side of this thing,

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Speaker 1: the business right, So forgive the Falcons for treating it

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Speaker 1: like it's a business right, like he wants all kinds

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Speaker 1: of feelings like old on, dude, you know you were

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Speaker 1: all about business, three year guaranteed contract when you're with

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Speaker 1: the Vikings. Then they re up to you, Hey, it's business,

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Speaker 1: it's not personal. And then you go to Atlanta because

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Speaker 1: of business. Then they treat you like it's business, and

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Speaker 1: now you're bothered because it's not personal.

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Speaker 7: I also think anyone in Cousin Hughes torn Achilles, regardless

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Speaker 7: of that, he'd already made like whatever, two hundred and

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Speaker 7: eighty three hundred million dollars in issues torn Achilles. Older player,

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Speaker 7: this team that's kind of desperate, but they kind of

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Speaker 7: got some interesting weapons. They got like a Shanahan disciple

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Speaker 7: McVeigh disciple running the offense, so you know what you're doing.

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Speaker 7: It was actually made kind of sense, Like I don't

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Speaker 7: blame him for taking the contract, but like all of

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Speaker 7: a sudden, they you know, like they got married and

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Speaker 7: then a month and they're like, we're in an open relationship.

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Speaker 7: He's like, what did I sign up for? But at

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Speaker 7: the time, it's like you were in love, so it's

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Speaker 7: I think it's easy. He was rattled by it. But

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Speaker 7: this is also what happens when you bounce around teams,

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Speaker 7: you know, the the equity just falls off a clip.

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Speaker 7: I mean Peyton Manning was now granted his arm wasn't

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Speaker 7: really working. John Alway called him into his office and said, like, hey,

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Speaker 7: Peyton were giving me a backup for a minute. Remember

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Speaker 7: that like this football, I mean, it's kind of cut

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Speaker 7: throat at times. And I think Cousins for the first

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Speaker 7: time truly in his career where he was like the

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Speaker 7: starter got I guess, a little bit of a humble pie.

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Speaker 7: But if you were giving me ninety million dollars, like

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Speaker 7: I don't know, I'd figure out a way to get

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Speaker 7: around it, figure it out. O.

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Speaker 1: I agree. He's John Middlecoff three. Now it's the podcast.

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Speaker 1: He's the host of the volume podcast That Work. Johnny,

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Speaker 1: have a great weekend. Thanks for joining us, Bud