WEBVTT - Episode 457 w/ RZA 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.079 He is drink chess, motherfucking podcast makes He's a legendary 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.400 queens rapper. He ain't sagreed as your boy in O 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:18.800 R E. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.759 He's a Miami hip pop pioneer put up as d 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.239 J e f N. Together they drink it up with 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:26.159 some of the biggest players you know what I mean. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:30.640 And the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:32.559 source for drunk drink chans. 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:36.880 Moy Days New Year C's It's time for drink Champions. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:45.200 Drink up mother mother? Would it good? Be hoping? Wa supid? 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.000 This is your boy in O R What up? It's 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:47.880 d J e f N. 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.720 This mid tap crazy war YEA make something. 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:59.279 And right now I want to tell you arguably this 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:03.000 is pop be one of the if not the best, 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.960 one of the greatest hip hop all producers over all 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.399 of all time. The man can make anything. He can 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:16.360 produce movies, make scores. He can produce your producers, producer, producer, 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:22.240 the producers, the other producer. They look up to him. 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:27.360 He has put together one of the most legendary groups 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.679 of all times. There will never be another. There was 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:35.319 never one before and there will never be another one after. 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:39.840 They are the alpha and Omega as a person that 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:41.800 I look up to in a lot of ways. If 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:43.960 it wasn't for what they did in hip hop, it 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:47.400 wouldn't have trickled down to what people did after that 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.480 in hip hop, and that led it to me. So 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:53.000 in a lot of ways, this is his show, regardless 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.640 he claims it or not. In case you don't know 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.840 what he's talking about, talking about Bobby, motherfucking digital Chris raheem, 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:10.200 motherfucking the rhythm. I ain't gonna lie to you. We've 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:11.679 been trying to get you from the beginning. You know 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:14.800 what I mean because because of But I'm gonna tell 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:16.400 you something. And I know I'm bouncing around, but I'm 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.880 gonna tell you something. I went. I was in Paris 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.760 two days prior to Wu and Na's coming to Paris. 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:26.240 So I looked at my wife and I was like, 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.119 it's no way. I'm in Paris and I'm gonna leave. 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:32.000 Knowing that it was coming, I was like, we gotta 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:36.200 stay two more days. So She's like, no problem. I went, 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:38.680 and I tried to like be like incog Negro right 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:40.840 because I wanted to like actually see the show, like 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.720 as a fan. When I tell you and I'm not 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.400 saying this because I say this when they're not around. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.400 That's arguably the best show, not hip hop show, the 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.920 best show I've ever seen. Right, No, me, let me 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:57.600 break it down for you. Why I'm sitting there as 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.240 a fan. Steve Rifkin is trying to just like me 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:01.640 to the back, and I'm like, I don't want to 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.960 go to the back, like I actually want to like 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.480 the regular seat. I want to sit down to people 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.399 just recognizing me. I was like, not tell you, motherfucker, 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.080 I'm a minority today, like I'm I'm a fan. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.000 So what I didn't know was y'all shared the stage. 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.840 It really it's really a Wu Tang nas showna's Wu 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:23.320 Tang show. It's not like like one is opening up 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.079 for each other. We came up with that idea and 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.680 how did him just come about in the beginning? Then 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.360 now I was both talked about like this has to 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:34.240 be like a cold headline, like like like you know, 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:36.520 we're not opening up for each other. I mean, that's 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:40.000 that doesn't doesn't make sense. So from the beginning we 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:41.920 thought of that, but then the idea was like, now 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.560 how to bring that to reality? And you know, I 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:48.280 make movies and film and stories, and so I was like, 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.960 you know, I got some ideas and then I built 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.960 with the Garden and he you know, no, I said it, 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.600 what what the is going to direct the tour? Right right? 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:01.160 I was like yeah, yeah, and so and so we 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:02.840 you know, we we just built it like that. And 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.720 whoever else came involved, because Buster was was on that one. 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:09.040 It was Buster Hall Paris one. No, no, okay, because I 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.360 know we had Buster in Daylight will yeah, that's the 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:13.600 next one, right. But point being made is that no 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.599 matter who came on that tour, the idea was that 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.920 we're not moving as a competition with each other. We're 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.479 moving as a movement. Like the goal is for the 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:27.599 audience to be entertained by the hip hop culture, you 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.080 know what I mean. So we're not never trying to 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.080 outdo each other or none of that, you know what 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.800 I mean. The music, the vibe, the energy is like 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.320 you in Paris, We're taking you back to New York. 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.839 But you know what I mean, when we hit London, Dublin, 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.919 but this is a New York state of mind. So 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:45.960 the tour, so the tour was caught New York state 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:49.840 of mind, right because it. Get do two tours. Yeah, 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:51.240 we did. We did two rounds and they was both 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.640 caught New York State. Yeah, okay, bad and so. So. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.200 The funny thing though, is Naza and pitched the idea 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.680 of New York state of Mind. That's my Oh wow, 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:02.760 that's his song, you know what I mean. But I'm like, yo, 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:06.279 were moving like this with the Woo and nas. That's 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.599 the New York state of Mind. I'm saying. Some of 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.760 my Woo brothers was like, that's dope, But how about 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:16.680 Woo York state of Mind? Yeah that's a non spher, 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:19.279 non cipher like like like nah, Now, New York state 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.320 of Mind is perfect, you know what I mean. Then 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.160 we're going buster game, same thing everybody. You know that 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.120 at the end of the day, you know, hip hop 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.080 is gone worldwide and does what it does, but it 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.279 still has this mecca, it still has its foundation. Yeah 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:38.080 that's New York, you know what I mean. So you 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:42.440 know what man and so and so and so that 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.480 tour was was was was was the fiftieth your anniversary 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:49.159 of self right, So it's like, yo, let's go New York. Listen. 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:50.360 Let people feel that. 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:52.640 You've got a sequenced to like a mixtape almost. 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:54.880 That's what I felt like. I felt like it was 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:58.840 a mixtape purpose and a play, and the play had 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:04.039 a baby. It was like it was theatrical. It was 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.440 ups down, like I mean, we found so we found. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:10.240 What I would say is we found points of connection 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.120 that happens. Right. So thanks to NADS and Mob Deep 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.640 and Gray Kwan and Ghosts and the songs they did together, right, 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.560 thanks for the Cuban Link album which had that song 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:22.599 verbal Intercourse, right and another songs they did over the years, 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:27.360 we had intersection marks. Yeah. So it's like so Nas 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.960 came out on Verbal Intercourse, you know what I mean, 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.360 and then when he came out that was it was 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.880 still part of the WHO set. But then we transitioned 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.280 away and he goes into it and then he gets 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.680 back to Off One High and Ray Kwan joins him 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.560 on that and he brings Ghost and Kap. But then 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.560 we transitioned it back and forth and it just was 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.160 like tag team welay race, you know what I mean. 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.120 And and that that that you gotta give. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.320 Grace the Nas too, because it's like it's almost like 0:06:56.360 --> 0:07:00.280 he's he's holding it down with other people like it 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:01.880 is hard. Yeah, well, I mean, first of all, you know, 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:03.760 na is one of the greatest, of course, but also 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.600 in that capacity though we was all one. That's right, 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:08.880 like like like like I love that. He was like, Yo, 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:14.640 I'm the the tenth by the time. At that time, 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.000 it was like now it's just we just's and you 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:20.320 know what we were saying to each other. You know, 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:22.160 this is the show where people come and talk and 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:25.040 they open up, right, But we were saying to each 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.000 other backstage, you know what I mean, even with Bus 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.880 and everybody who joined through throughout the process, was like, 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:33.840 this is just good for the culture. It's good for 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:38.320 black men to see all this alpha energy work together, 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:42.080 not compete, not writing over this or squandering over this, 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:44.880 not arguing over the economics and none of that. It's like, 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:49.000 it's good. It's a good model for the rest of 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.160 the world to see. That was like our backstage talk. 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:54.400 We knew that, Yo, this is what this is kind 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:56.760 of like what the community needs to be doing. You 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.400 know what I mean, Get off of that if they 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.560 call it a black going black, white on white or whatever. 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:03.040 You know what I mean, We're going love on love, 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:03.560 you know what I mean. 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:05.840 You know what's the beauty about that that I got 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:06.240 to see. 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:08.520 And like I said, I was sneaking backstage at first 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.320 until y'all performer. Then after you have perform, I kind 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.480 of like revealed. But what I got to see is 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:19.760 each individual grow. Like I remember going backstage. I remember 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:23.560 seeing Way and Ghosts on one side, and you got 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.480 and Cavo on one side, like it used to be 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.640 like like almost like a like like I don't know 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:31.920 if it was like park Hill and State and Brooklyn 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.440 like I don't know, like, but when I got to 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.600 see it this time, like I guess this is everyone 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.480 coming together has grown men and understanding. 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.480 I got to see the love, Like I. 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.000 Got to really see like y'all as brothers and like 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.160 I'm sitting there like holy shit, like I'm still a 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.480 fan because because i'm your friends, like I considered the 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.280 family too, Like I'm still a fan. So I'm sitting 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.760 there and just watching y'all and I just see how 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:01.000 happy y'all are when y'all to get that when y'all together, 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:03.760 like that shit is like I know I'm outside, but 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.240 I can see that ship and I could be like yo, 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.280 like because when when y'all get together, do y'all women 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.600 this of the beginning or yah women, yes, yes, staying 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:14.959 in in the now. You never know though, you know 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.520 what I mean. But it's the beautiful thing is there's 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:21.920 so much history, and the history is so intertwined, like 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:25.080 like you said, you know, to the degree of you know, 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.319 children like my sister got children by goals, you know 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:29.280 what I mean, Like. 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:30.320 The family tree is preyed. 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:34.520 You know, meth wife and you guards, you know, first 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:38.320 mother of his, see the sisters just like this, you 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.520 know what I mean. Me and ray Kwan third grade together, 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.040 you know, the community of it all, I think is 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:48.640 what keeps it everlasting. That's why who tank forever? And 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.280 I just think that at any given moment, you don't 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.319 know which one of your brothers got that spark of 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.360 chi that's what you needed, you know what I mean. 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.920 I might be on a high mountain thinking, you know whatever, 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.120 versus on some Rizzarus ship, you know what I mean. 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.880 But I needed to see you guard that day, you know, 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.839 I mean, just just just because my shoes start getting 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:12.360 too point you know, it's like, hold on, God, you 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.320 gotta round them off a lot and get two pointy 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.360 on your shoes. So it's like still sharp and still 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:19.960 you know what I mean. That's and that's what we 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.120 do for each other. And I think, I know, I 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.440 ain't gonna say. I think it's like every time that 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:26.960 votron comes together. Yes, you know what I mean, you 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.040 get to form that blazing sword, you know what I mean, bump. 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:31.760 And now you guys are going into the new tour. 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.880 Yeah, the new tour, which we called the Final Chamber, 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.439 and that's going back to like us, you know, running 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.920 around the globe one more time together, you know what 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:44.960 I mean. We touched the globe, yes, you know what 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.120 I mean, and you got to think about you know, 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.320 you know you MC hip hop, you know, or the 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:53.800 success that hip hop gave us. And it's like, do 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.960 you go back and give back to all the people 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:01.480 that actually do their consumption of your material allows you 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:03.599 to put your son through college or allow you to 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:04.920 you know what I mean, to be up in your 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.120 five thousand square feet or whatever. You know what I mean, 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:09.920 How do you go back? And will you go back? 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:11.400 You know what I mean? And for us it's hard 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:14.200 to get us all together regardless because of that, but 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:16.520 this is all part of a plan, right, you know 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.040 what I mean, one thing that I saw I have 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.680 to do is plan ahead. So but you planned a 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:21.440 thirty year plan. 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:23.800 You knew that y'all would be here thirty years later. 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:25.520 It's what I said, though, Okay, this is what I 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.560 just say, and you can vouch this from another brother 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.400 and to a team. I said, when we came, based 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.199 on the energy we was bringing right, the talent level, 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:39.760 the unorthodox that you for, the universal, that w you 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:43.600 for that wisdom. When we was bringing I said, I 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:47.280 don't see nothing coming like this gonna take twenty five years, 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:53.040 twenty years before the system itself starts to catch up. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.320 I think the twenty years before it's like, okay, now 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.960 this the talent level of others are starting at that 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.760 talent left. And then I said, but maybe, I said, 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:06.280 when that happens, though, our plane is going to land. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.640 I said, now we can land like this, right, we 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:13.640 can land like this. If we land like this, you 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.640 know what I mean, that's thirty years yeah, okay, And 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:20.720 that's what we were on this one, that this is 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:24.480 no nose. Let me let me let me know, let 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:26.800 me let you know. If you know this expression, thank you. 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.720 Whenever a person people have like you know, a cammarderie. 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.000 Like it's a bunch of people and people say, yo, 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:35.719 you know, we're gonna break it up and put this 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:38.000 person over there, this person there, you know what people 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:42.880 call it. Let's vizard it. You know that now I 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:48.000 know that that's a good. That's a good. Remember y'are 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:51.959 the first group ever in existence that had one record 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:55.800 label with the whole group and then piece off each 0:12:55.920 --> 0:13:02.520 That shit is genius. Don't let's take a Okay, what 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.480 is this? What is this? I like that? I like that? 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:08.240 You got more? Okay? Okay, So we're drinking sake today, 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.640 all right. So the reason why we're drinking sake, I 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.040 watched the show when you drink what you drink? But yeah, 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:17.320 it's only two liquors like like this that gives you 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:21.040 an upper okay. One is the Chila yes, and the 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:25.560 other is saki. Now saki though doesn't have ethanol alcohol 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.760 in it. This is for a minute, all right. So 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:31.600 this fermentation meaning you don't get no headache and all that. 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.040 So this is if you're going drink vomiting fluid. No, 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.400 don't drink like what does that mean? We to each 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:53.160 other through time anyway? Saki that's fool. Yeah, this is fool. 0:13:53.640 --> 0:14:00.640 Let me chase. Yes, yeah, yes, we gotta we got 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.440 you go get full Flash sake lessons from it's called 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:10.400 Heavenly Ski. Yeah, this this particular saki. Yeah. Sorry, I'm 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.360 gonna take some ice in there and put it like that. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:12.680 That's right. 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.840 Yeah, there you go, give us that bottle service. 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:28.160 Yeah. Yeah, I'm only joking. So because me, I was 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.320 the person I was trying to get in the industry, 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.280 I was a young kid, I was probably like, what 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.800 what was it? And what? Yeah? The who say funny gave? 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.280 My first album was ninety three. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.480 I have the fly from the first Miami showing ninety four. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:46.520 That was so me. I was too young to understand. 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.040 I thought only y'all was on the same label. When 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:56.400 people was like, no idiots, when the individual projects. Yes, 0:14:56.480 --> 0:15:00.480 when when I first off, when I sa e't meth 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:01.200 on the bus? 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:04.160 What was now bring the Pain. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:07.600 Wasn't on a thirty six changs? Right? That was right? Yes, 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.640 I was confused because I'm like, why they ain't got 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:16.200 that logo with that right? Right? Yes? So this is 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.080 this is I sort of God. I don't even think 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:19.880 of acting this for the fans. I think of accident 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.800 this for myself. But what made you say, you know 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.800 what everyone puts the what's that ship put the p's 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:30.480 in the same bucket all your age basket. That's what 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:30.840 I meant. 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.760 So what made you say was that the plan or 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:35.880 that how it developed? 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:39.920 It was? It was the plan as well as uh 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.520 the evolution of the plan. So what I mean by 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.200 that is that you know, at the end of the day, 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.800 you know, we all you know, I can I put that. 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:50.680 I like to talk too much about the street hustle 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.720 side of that, right, but coming from a street hustle, right, 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.000 what you need mostly in the street hustle is what 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.800 a connect, all right, So once you got the connect, 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:01.720 then you could kind of be up in the building, right, 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:05.240 so loud as to connect right, right, So we so loud, 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.400 you know at the time, you know, you know Steve 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:11.720 Rifkin of course being an intelligent executive, one of the 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:15.360 best executives. Because Steve Rifkin was an executive, that didn't 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.960 get him interfere with the art, right, His job was 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:19.000 to market it and do it. 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:20.680 Your job, he was a young dude at the time 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:21.280 into hip hop. 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:23.760 Yeah, your job was to cook it. His job was 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.920 to serviet you know what I mean, but what we 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.480 were but he didn't have the at the time, the 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.520 business couldn't sustain all of us. We knew that you 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.640 couldn't take this. Even if somebody were to through a 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.480 m hip hop wasn't getting no ms back then. But 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.800 even that ain't going to feed this whole family, right right, 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.000 So the idea was like, well, let's make the connect 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:48.120 with him, Okay, make that a piece of business, but 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:52.200 then make connects with other partners throughout the industry, right 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.720 so that we can first economically be able to maintain 0:16:56.200 --> 0:17:00.000 the organization and then so that's the economic decision to create. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.920 The decision was this, So I'm a guy in the 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.400 industry that came through the industry and felled right according 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.440 to how you would say success would be with Prince 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:12.240 Rock after the Prince Rakking EP, you know what I mean. 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.760 You know, ten twenty thousand units wasn't enough to hit 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.200 that threshold, even though right now ten and twenty thousand 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.440 units right now it's like you popping no, no, no, now, 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:27.200 look it went it went back major. 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:27.600 What was the. 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:32.000 Tommy Boy defending major ind Major like a major. 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.640 But the guy for me was you know, I had 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:36.280 to hit a certain number in order to get that 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.320 album budget. I didn't hit that number of Tivy boy, 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:42.160 I didn't get that album budget. You had a threshold. 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.720 You had a threshold. So the point being made is that, 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:46.840 but I had a chance also to see the industry 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.720 in a way that it was just dog eat. 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.439 Dog from whatever you saty for what it was. 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:56.520 But I said in my psyche that, y'all, what if 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.760 I get the industry to work together all from my 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.639 you know what I mean? So I intentionally was like 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:08.200 if Death Jam have somebody, if Geffen has somebody, if 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.240 you want to elect you have somebody, b MG, loud 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.160 half somebody, you know what I mean. Eventually, when West 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:18.600 Coast and got party to get something, the industry is 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.359 almost unintentionally working on your behalf, working on the behalf 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.880 of WO time, right, So let me ask you. I'm 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:28.600 sorry to cut you up because I really don't you 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:32.640 follow me on that though. Yeah, okay, but that's not illegal, right, 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:39.360 not design like that where you don't ask you were 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.040 you become. What I'm saying is like, you know, when 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.240 when the group is signed, it's like I would have 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:48.080 known Oh no, no, because now that's in our industry 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.520 because they was just woo taking aside Method many in 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:53.120 our industry. You don't, you don't want that to happen. 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:54.920 Let's pros and cons to that, right. I want to 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:56.760 get too deep on the business right here. I want 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:58.640 to spend more time building with you then talking about 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.240 the business, right who But I will say the beauty 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:03.080 of it. Let me say the beauty of it is 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:06.760 that after Wu Tang thirty six came Method Man, all 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:08.800 these sisters going platinum, bro, you know what I mean? 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.480 And then the last album to come in that first 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:16.800 swing of the solo albums was Liquid Swards right right, 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.119 and when he came. By the time he came, you 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:27.000 got Electra, Loud, Death Jam and now Geffing and even 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.560 g because we have the gold albums with great biggers. 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:34.080 Right back in those days, you had to buy floor 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:37.760 space in the record stores for pop, right, and you 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:39.600 had to buy that in order, you know, to get 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:43.960 your records there. All five labels put their money together 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:51.920 to have who taking the front and the right y'all. 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:53.920 And even though Ji was the album that came out 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.440 and he hit the number one rap album or whatever, right, 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:01.960 everybody who had catalog shit double their cells. Like so stay, say, 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:05.160 dude is doing twenty thousand normally, right forty Now you're 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:08.360 doing forty, kid, because the industry is combined. 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:10.520 Like what the playlist would be today. If someone's popping 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:12.399 on the playlist, it runs down the playlist. 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.200 You know what. I never thought of that, Yeah, it was. 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:21.119 It was the first playlist. Now, now, who was somebody 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:25.000 you did business with that you wish you did that? 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:28.440 Whish I didn't? Yere hm, that's that's a deep question. 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:33.399 I got plenty of them. Okay, you need an example, 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:36.520 I got ready, But I can answer that one quick 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:40.560 for you. Who was this gentleman a boy? The name 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.840 of thinker's name was Rock? Okay. It was the first 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:46.960 lesson in record business, one on one for me, which 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:51.760 was he we were selling protected next by ourselves, right 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:55.159 out of our trunks. But if you got lucky, you 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:58.040 could get it to a one stop, right, you get 0:20:58.040 --> 0:20:59.680 it to a one stop. That's like they may take 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:01.600 five thousand copies, and we was getting them. We was 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.359 we was getting We was moving units. We moved you know, 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:08.159 tens of thousands before we finally got the loud Wow, right, 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:09.200 that's what made loud. 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:12.840 One stuff is the regional distributors exactly. But my men, 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:17.919 my men rock, sorry, my man Rock. He was representing 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:18.560 the one stop. 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.560 He said, and he took you know, let's just say 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.760 five thousand copies, you know what I mean, and boom 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.440 we sold them. But then now we're coming for the cream. 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.440 He ain't got the cream, right, you know what I mean. 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:34.000 And it's just like what and we don't understand that. 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:37.080 But this is your friend from the hood. This is 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:40.800 an industry we're selling. Madam Mover was like, yo, this 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:43.399 guy he's going to take five thousand copies, was like 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:47.400 that's nice. Boom Press, let's go. Let's go. Yeah, people, 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:49.359 we're going to rock and Sol rock and Sol is 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:53.240 hitting us with clothes crash this cash on delivery. But 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:58.920 you gave him okay, yeah, all right, he don't pay wow, 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:01.840 So now you don't pay. So now we stepped we 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:05.040 step in kind of we stepped in aggressive, you know 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:09.000 that is at those young age. And he was like uh. 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:12.960 It was like it wasn't gonna go well. But with him, 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.320 who worked put on was the two brothers who I 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:20.400 respected this day, the Lean brothers, you know, brothers. Yes, yes, 0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:26.560 the US brothers. Yeah, everybody writes us and it was there. Yeah, 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:31.600 I'm sorry. They said they advised us because they couldn't 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:35.280 nobody can stop us. But they advised, like, yo, listen, 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.440 let this go. You know what I mean, You guys 0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:41.680 got a whole thing ahead of you if you go 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:45.400 and do what you're gonna do here they get in here, right, 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:48.919 because it's like that's that's it could be some gangster 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:52.359 shit at the end of the day, you're not gonna 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.240 grow because you know, when you're young. You don't know that. 0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:58.560 You know, like all the cases that my WHU brothers 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:01.200 had is because being young, right, and so you don't 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:02.919 know that. Yo, you knock this dude out, you starmped 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:06.040 this dude out. That could stop your whole career. That's 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:09.880 because your physical aggression. Yeah, so we took advice from him. 0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:11.600 But wait, hold up, but how does it get through 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:12.919 to you guys in that moment? 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:16.439 No, no, because while I still negotiated, he had he 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:20.200 had a studio. It's okay, you know what, pay us 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:24.159 back in studio time. So we had to. So we 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:28.040 found the we call it a diplomatic solution, which was 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:31.200 pay us back in studio and they did the song 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:35.200 method Man that became the next single was because it 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:37.640 was done in that scene in that studio. We went there, 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:42.119 and it sounds a little better than protecting that sonically 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:45.919 because I'm now in a real studio with a little 0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:48.680 SSL and all that. So it had it, had it, 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:53.080 so it was explains a lot. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:55.399 so so so so that was So that was a solution. 0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:59.040 But doing business with him was like it almost made 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:00.960 me say like fuck the fuck your game, you know 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.920 what I mean, because it's like I didn't, I don't. 0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:07.920 I didn't expect somebody to do my package like that, 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.320 you know what I mean. It's like your package to 0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:12.560 give him a package you bunk bunk bunk. So so 0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:14.760 I didn't expect that to happen. You know that, none 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:17.560 of us, they're me power, you know, divine at the time, 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.040 move all of us. But the solution was a show 0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:29.800 diplomat solution, right yeah, So Marsko Selly was I like 0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:37.320 what you went with it? You said cred but you 0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:44.000 once you put that, trying to put the yeah take 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:46.879 a shot, it can't you can't take a shot. And 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:51.680 we can't take let's gip him for for for for 0:24:51.560 --> 0:25:02.480 the for the game, expensive album and nice. So this 0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:05.840 to me is genius as well. Right, how does this happen? 0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.040 Because this guy step to you and say, I want 0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:12.200 to will they created it? Okay? Yeah, I'm asking you know. 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:14.280 So yeah, So we talked about this a lot already. 0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:18.399 So I'm okay, I want to hit. I got so 0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:19.760 much time with you. Okay, let's go. 0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:20.080 Let's go. 0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:24.879 I will say this though about it. Right. It was 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.320 an idea that one of my students, and you know, 0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:31.920 kind of germinated, right, and it was kind of cohesive 0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:34.520 with the idea I had, which was, to me, music 0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:36.800 is art. It should be treated as such. Right. At 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.920 this time, music was being devalued, right, right, So it's like, 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:41.560 now we got to find a way to put value 0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:44.359 back into it. And people mostly value what they can't have, 0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:49.080 all right, Sorry, then they can't have this, right, only one. 0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:52.080 We're going to make one copy and it's gonna you 0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.359 gotta go to a museum to hear it, you know 0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:56.719 what I mean. That was the ambition of it. Uh 0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:59.080 So we started to listen and and and the funny 0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:04.720 thing is different millionaires and even billionaires was acting like 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:06.159 they was going to buy it, you know what I mean. 0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:07.960 It was like it was because that's the auction business, 0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:12.840 Southerby's and Padaway, that's what they do, right. But then 0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:15.320 I met this kid. He was still a kid and 0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:18.960 he wasn't famous yet, Marsh Grelly. Maybe at the time 0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:21.159 he was probably worth a couple of hundred mil so 0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:25.280 he was really a baby compared to the other bidders. Okay, okay, 0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:29.280 all the bidders had bills. But he had came to 0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:32.600 the little listening and he heard it. He heard like 0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:36.200 a little twelve minutes and he was like, yo, whatever 0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:41.719 he heard. He needs that album. He needs the Enigma 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:45.879 time code machine exactly right in the in the turning 0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:49.960 papers and this is awesome historical ship. Wait, the Enigma 0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:53.840 has nothing to do with listen that's from World War Two. Yeah, 0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:56.919 he's getting the last one they got, like the one 0:26:56.960 --> 0:27:00.879 that's the last living listener. He's getting that. He's getting 0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.520 the tuning papers of the guy who designed this ship. 0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:05.840 This is the guy who made the first computer arguably, 0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:14.159 and the Wu Tang album. He's all three of these ships. 0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:16.080 And so I told her, I said, yo, you know 0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.960 this album is like, you know, all albums like our babies, 0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:20.200 you know what I mean, So you got to be 0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:22.560 treating this thing with the highest respect. And that's when 0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:23.880 he told me, I'm gonna do all that and when 0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.080 you get all three of these things, he said, he's 0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:33.200 going to become like a powerful man in the world. Right. 0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:35.560 I was like, wait, wait, you know what I mean, 0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:38.200 Bung bung. And I didn't hear about the other things. No, no, 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.520 And so he does it right, and I kinda I 0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.119 kind of make the make the deal with him. Right 0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:46.600 then I'm home my wife and ship we chilling. She 0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:48.879 knows about it and all that. And then he's on 0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:53.320 the news and she's like, uh, maybe isn't that the 0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.040 guy that's that's uh that you made the deal with 0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:59.119 the guy disclosure or it wasn't it was also NBA. 0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:01.920 Yeah, and they're still working out the deal, you know, 0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:02.560 all the paperwork. 0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:02.760 Ship. 0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:05.960 But then he shows on TV as the evil lest 0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:11.280 Man Alive. He was in medication. 0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:16.320 Okay, so but I'm like, oh, ship boom, but aldi 0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:20.080 shook hands with him, already made a deal. So so 0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:22.320 I could you know, your world is your bond, you 0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:25.399 know what I mean? So you know with it. But 0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:28.159 I did say this to him. I said, Bro, you 0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:31.760 got a lot of bash it on you. I would 0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:34.200 advise that you take this whole album and do something good. 0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:36.800 I said, maybe just give it to the people. Wow, 0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:38.920 Like I don't know what to do. I said, it's 0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:41.280 a chance for you to do good. He smiled at 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:48.160 me and doubled down on bad ship. He went, he 0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.440 caught be for ghost faces and everything that great, he 0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:55.640 went in anyway, Yeah, yeah, but it is. It is 0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:59.880 on record right now. The album when it was resold, 0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.880 it was resold for over four million. He bought it 0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:06.640 for two resold it for over four or the government 0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.240 took it. Then they auctioned it all. So it's it's 0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.720 one of those it's like it appreciates like a house 0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:13.239 or some shit. It's like it gets more and more 0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:15.640 valuable over time. And it and it didn't make the 0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:20.360 Guinness World Records as the most expensive single album in 0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:27.040 the history. You know what I mean? He said to 0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.400 it earlier, he said, give it to the people. Is 0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:31.680 that an option in the contract that they could actually 0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:32.480 give it. You could give it. 0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:35.719 You can't sell it, can't sell it. But the government 0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:39.040 didn't make that contract with you so they could auction it. Well, 0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:41.520 the government, you know, they know because they got it 0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:42.960 from him and then they were able to it. 0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.120 They can only auction it as a single unit, like 0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:47.400 a painting. It's almost like an n f T. That's 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:49.840 what That's what I thought. I was the first NFT. 0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:51.320 I was will to say, Yeah, I say that. Yeah, 0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.440 you can say, like the first n f T. It's like, 0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.760 even if somebody's playing you gotta it's only one moment, 0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.960 Lisa yo, right, you know what I mean, And that's 0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:01.360 that's what it is. I mean, you got people that 0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:05.080 got the T shirt, but the real more release of 0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:15.600 that is like this more like what I'm going to 0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:29.760 Monica on Sunday, Monica. How many people? Because the documentary, right, 0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:35.600 everybody was mad as your brother and then I got 0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:41.040 to see brothers kicking at wakec On's weather. Okay, so 0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:45.760 like that that was the part of the documentary. Obviously, 0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:49.200 you know, I'm outside of looking in. That was the 0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:52.360 part like because was known to keep family business in family. 0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:54.920 This is the first time everybody coming out. It's the 0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:57.640 first time I've ever seen that. But then I see 0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.120 so for me as a person, that's like like, you know, 0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:02.920 I got to see that. It's it's love there. Of course, 0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:07.120 all that Showtime documentary, it looked different, looked at contentious. 0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:11.200 What's your explanation for that? For the for the way 0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:20.520 it looks on the documentary. Yeah, okay, we got the 0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:25.280 Japanese cups from the Japanese look somewhere Japanese try to 0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:29.000 redeal you got so. One other thing was saki. Okay, 0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:33.000 if you're drinking heaven sake, which is actually a saki 0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:36.720 that's polished. The rice was polished fine for this, like 0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:38.959 it's all about how you polish the ris to get 0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:42.960 the best fermentation. And then also a French wine master 0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.200 finished this all that's why it's so smooth. But this 0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.040 one you can't pour your own saki. Yes, so I 0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:55.400 need you to pour miss that's right. Never okay, don't 0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:55.600 do that. 0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:58.640 Let me take this shot. 0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.800 Over that. Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, Bomber, Yeah, I'm sorry 0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:05.080 if I'm doing all the rule. See like she's like 0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:08.160 this guy, no, we need to learn, No, we need 0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:10.600 to learn, you know. So when we have motherfucker Jackie 0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:14.440 Chan come here together, I turned together, said Yo Rizzard 0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:20.880 told us motherfuckers exactly I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, so real quick. 0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:25.520 In the Showtime documentary, it was talking about how some 0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:28.880 of the brothers was angry with Divine based on business, right, 0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:32.000 and every artist may have been through this, and you're 0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:33.680 an artist or you may be able to play to this. 0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:36.680 So the argument with the with the Vine was saying 0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:39.600 the ghost face was y'all of coach said, if I 0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:44.560 make a million dollars, how much you get? Right? I 0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:48.120 think Divine said, you know, twenty percent, ten twenty maybe 0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:51.120 ten percent because we kept we kept that modest. Most 0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:54.480 managers take twenty percent of your money, right, your agent 0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.680 takes ten percent. Right. If you make an m thirty 0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:02.440 percent is gone right, right, and go say I fucked that. 0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:08.360 I want my whole ill. So what happens is the 0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:13.000 artists don't realize that your art definitely creates value. But 0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.680 it's music business, right, and so the business side has 0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.240 to go and what these that. So if an artist 0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:22.160 is only if a manager's only getting ten percent, you 0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:26.040 know what I mean, you're getting nine hundred down right. 0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:28.080 You may want your whole joint. But it's like yo, nah, 0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:30.680 this is business. And so when you're in that business 0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:34.480 position in the way you're gonna you look almost you 0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.520 look down upon in a way, right because the artist 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.240 is thinking, like yo, I signed for a million dollars, 0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:44.040 where's my million? It's like nah, yo, And to forget 0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:46.600 what the manager taking with the agent takeing. The lawyers too, 0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:49.480 the lawyer don't man my man Uncle Sam, and I 0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:52.680 ain't talking about Sam Jackson. You know they're coming in 0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:57.840 like right down. So the Vine has always been the 0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:01.800 business savvy one of us. So when he got out 0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:04.800 of the system, right, he got a job at the 0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:11.040 World Trade Center cleaning carpets. But he was reading all 0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.960 that shit, you know what I mean. So, but he 0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:17.920 was studying all that shit. So he was doing quick books. 0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:21.959 I'm making beats on my computer. He's doing the counting shit. 0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:24.239 He's learning and managing shit, you know what I mean. 0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:27.040 And his deal if you go back and you check, 0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:30.160 and I'm not just bigging him up because he's my brother. 0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:33.759 But if you go back and you checked, you know 0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.600 every company besides WU Tank Production, So WHU Tank Production? 0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:40.440 I started at myself personally took my last ten g's. 0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:42.800 I had a choice. Let me I say this with you. 0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.959 I had a choice, bro me and Tony had twenty 0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:51.120 thousand dollars, right, and the plan was to go hook 0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:57.120 up with my uncle Joe and get a break. I 0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:04.000 just knew Uncle Joe wasn't good from there thought out 0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:04.680 what you said. 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:05.640 It's a way, he say. 0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.919 Uncle Joe told my pops that's my post, my brother, 0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.520 my pop's first cousin. So we so we go down 0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:16.000 and we we we see uncle Joe. But at the 0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:19.600 same time, I got a seed in the oven. I 0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:21.759 got nalls of self that's clear now because I'm not 0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.200 smoking a drink, and so my brain waves are super clear. 0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.359 And we down and I'm not a vegan knocked out 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:31.839 like seventeen chicken wings that you know what I mean. 0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:35.800 I'm going there and it's like and we're talking about it. 0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:37.680 It's like you're boom, we'll get it to North Carolina. 0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.279 I'll get it from North Khaki and bring it to 0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:46.520 the package eh. But on that trip, Yo, I decided 0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:49.600 to leave without it. M hmm. Came back to New 0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.719 York empty handed. You had the money, right, and it 0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:58.359 told Tony like, nah, I'm done. I'm done negative, right, 0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:01.319 Because every time we did something negative, something went wrong. 0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:04.360 Somebody got locked up, somebody got shot or you gotta 0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:08.360 you gotta get your biscuit, and it says negative breeze negative, 0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:10.800 and the Bible with says for every negative action you do, 0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:14.239 I give you one in return, he says, but for 0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:17.319 every positive action you do, I multiplied you by ten. 0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:22.200 So I was like, yo, I gave ghost his hat, 0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:24.799 took my half, and I actually told him, I said, yo, bro, 0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.840 love you go on with your life man, because ghosts 0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.200 is so real that the way we was going, he 0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:33.360 would have jumped in front of the bullet, you know 0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:35.800 what I mean. And I was like, nah, God, I 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:39.440 appreciate everything, but go ahead. I gotta figure something outside. 0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.440 And I just walked. I walked for days and days 0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:44.520 and days. People thought I was going crazy a little bit, 0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:48.960 but I was form a lady and I realized what 0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:50.319 I had to do it. I'm gonna give a shout 0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:54.560 out to mister James Smith. He's the father of Mel Kwan. 0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:58.759 Mel Kwan was my first manager. I'm giving him a 0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:02.160 shout out because I sued to go to his crib 0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:04.920 and he believed in his son, mel Chwan. So he 0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:08.239 started a record label called Your Maker Records, and that's 0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:11.000 where he had a group called the divine force on it. 0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:14.480 So I boring all of them right from my pink houses. 0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:17.360 But I always went to his house because I was 0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:20.200 signed as an artist. I used to fall three hundred 0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:22.680 dollars for the rent. I stopped scrambling and all that 0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.680 at this time, right, but he always had boxes of 0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:29.560 records stored in his crib, and I realized that the 0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:35.800 record company was his house, the Brownstone was the label. 0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.680 So I took my tenzis and went and sat down 0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:41.960 with him, played a few games of chests, and said, 0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.120 I want to start a company. He said, Yo, you 0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:47.759 go talk to mister Warren. Mister Warren to help you. 0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:50.720 I went to talk to mister Bill Warren. We formed 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.479 the Wu Tang Production. I put the money in the lawyer, 0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:57.040 put the money in the bank, formed the company, formed contracts, 0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:00.680 and then took this idea and stepped to my brothers like, Yo, 0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:02.880 this is what I this is the plan. So before 0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:05.480 you form the company, you didn't have to fully signed 0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:07.040 to you No, so you had to go to them 0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:10.680 and convist them that, yeah, that's I had a former company. 0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:13.520 And then they're not gonna say convinced my brothers, I 0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:17.120 would say that advise my brothers gonna go anywhere, whether 0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:24.720 I caught you or not. Yeah, okay, but let's go together, 0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:28.040 you know what I mean. So look, by myself at 0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.440 the end of the day, no disrespect to nobody. And 0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:34.640 I'm a guaranteed gold artist, right, I got gold, Bobby, 0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:37.160 there's your those gold grave daggers with my Wu Tang brother, 0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.560 I'm multi platinum, right exactly. You know what I mean? 0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:45.000 So you Yeah, by myself, I'm a but together the 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:48.440 community eats. Right. Look how many families eat off of 0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:49.160 this record tree? 0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:49.319 Yo? 0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.000 You know what I mean? So I want to share 0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:52.880 that share that peace with you, because what was the 0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:54.840 date that you that you made the company? Like around 0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:58.040 what year? This is probably the company's ninety two, right, 0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.200 And then protecting that comes out. I make the company first, 0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:08.080 and then after the company, uh started gearing up equipment. 0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.160 When got powered to join me help gear up equipment. 0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:15.920 Gave him a divine control of management. I told him, 0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:19.240 nobody takes nobody's publishing. Publishing always stayed with the artists. 0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:24.640 I read the book, you know what I mean, And yeah, 0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.160 and and and and built it. So the point I 0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:29.600 was saying by saying that with you is that the 0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:33.440 idea to do wrong was trump by the idea to 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:37.120 do right, and then the idea to do right multiplied 0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:40.439 my entire family, my entire team, and to this day. 0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:48.600 Right you think about the Wu Tang series, right, yeah, 0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:52.680 you know I've taken Now, I got ten new young 0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:57.120 men actors, some of them is their first gig, right, 0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:03.920 turning them to millionaires. That's a just to remind DMX 0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:06.399 on the show, right And DMX So I said something 0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:08.640 to him, and DMX said, I stopped this in rack 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.680 rack rappers And I said, oh yeah, watch and he said, 0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:15.640 because every one rapper can feed sixteen families. So let's 0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:20.640 think about that. Think about what I experience, right right, 0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:27.120 right right? You funded a whole, the whole, at least Connecticut. 0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:37.960 You argue that Wu Tang had its own economy. You 0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:42.040 created an economy that was Wu Tang. No, that's crazy. 0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:45.080 So let me tell you a story that's that's funny. Right. 0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:48.040 I met you one time at the Woo store. I 0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:52.399 came to an opening, and then I think one time 0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:56.960 in Mystic studios and that right, But then one time 0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.640 we was in a hip factory studio. This is our 0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:02.440 fire getting hot. I finally like hot, like I was 0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:04.160 all one of the times I met you, I was 0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:06.520 coming up. I'm finally hot. I'm finally hot. Like it's 0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:10.160 like the NR albums. I'm steping, I pull I pull up. 0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:12.840 You already in You're already I think you would leave it. 0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:14.600 I couldn't. I couldn't tell. But it was like fifteen 0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:18.520 of y'all and I can tell you was zooted out 0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:22.080 your mind. I look, but this is Missa right. He's like, 0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:25.759 but I gotta be cool about it. I gotta be cool. 0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:28.279 But I'm still this is Middler. So you said to me, 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:30.239 you said to me. He's like, I made the beat 0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:33.879 exactly how you wanted it. And I was like, he said, 0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:36.080 exactly how you told me to do it. I made 0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:38.000 it and I'm like, world up. 0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:39.880 But it wasn't you. 0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:43.799 I wantn't make it. 0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:45.800 With me. 0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:46.960 But he was like, if you want to hear it, 0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:50.080 I was like, yeah, I came upstairs. You played me 0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:53.200 the most amazing BF the fuck I had. Track Master 0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:56.840 Jones said, Yo, Nord, give me one second, and I 0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.360 went outside to get one second, and it was crazy 0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.640 about that crazy tone introduced me to fifty cent Wow 0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:08.560 as I turned around. Your man, that's crazy. I got 0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:13.160 to beat man. That's crazy. You don't remember, you know, yo, 0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:15.640 that I tell that story all the time because so crazy. 0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:17.600 You know here back in those days, I just saw 0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:21.600 the sort of gizzl will always be filming us, right, 0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:23.680 you know, he was going to let's let's take a 0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:26.759 shot for that beat. Okay, shot that we never heard 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:36.200 of it? Hey, yo, bro, Yeah, I realized this is 0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:38.880 really good though, by the way, hold on, hold on 0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:41.400 because now because you know, first I was, you know, 0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:43.600 I was gonna like it, whether because because you know 0:42:43.600 --> 0:42:49.399 what I'm saying like that, no matter what I want 0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:52.120 to believe, No, no, no, no, I was with the program. 0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:54.800 But this is actually good. No, no, this is this 0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:57.800 is This is especially if you drinking in the daytime. 0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:01.320 Bright you could drink this at lunch and still go 0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:03.319 back to the office because you said, this is an 0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:06.799 upper exactly. We're not getting socky face here, okay, yeah, 0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:13.440 we getting like the big back. What's up with the 0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:15.319 V one? Like I mean, you know what I'm saying, 0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:18.399 We got die a little bit, you know, to live 0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:20.319 a little bit. Sometimes you got die a little bit. 0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:33.799 You see. Great, see great, hairs, great hairs, great hairs, 0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:36.960 like colonists, Okay, colonists trying to get this you're like 0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:47.480 a colonists. But you know what, you probably as an artist, right, 0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:51.359 and your artist suggested, right. But I think, like, I mean, 0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:53.520 I gotta say this ship. I think like when you're 0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:56.719 thinking about like our image are look and all that, 0:43:57.360 --> 0:43:59.239 I don't know, like as an artist you kind of 0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:01.680 almost like how with responsibility to try to keep your 0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:05.480 physical physical and everything almost the same if you can, 0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:09.880 because like that's the that's the that's the image of 0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:12.279 your that's your commodity. You know what I mean. I 0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:14.320 mean if you look at this box right here, I 0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:21.440 mean you got the smile and ship I mean, and 0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:23.759 it's beautiful. I'm proud of you. Got to send a 0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:26.120 couple of you're good. 0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:28.880 I told them last time I was res here. I'm 0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:30.719 trying to get Ris down with the crew. 0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:31.399 You know what I'm saying. 0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:33.719 Oh goddamn it, So I want to go in the 0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:39.359 box something for a little bit. 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:45.120 Acting. One of my favorite roles you did is with 0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:49.840 uh uh, what's that ship? When Adam Sander's sick and 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:53.480 you and the funny people. Funny people, Yeah, like. 0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:59.160 Is acting something that attracted you to that world? 0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:02.719 Or is it scoring the movies that bring you there? Yeah? No, 0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:07.200 I wasn't. I wasn't Like I didn't. I didn't forecast 0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:15.440 myself being an actor, but I forecasted. You know, being 0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:20.640 an actor is almost a dream, right kids watching TV? Unattainable. Yeah, yeah, 0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:23.080 you don't think you're going to be on that silver screen. 0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:26.560 But what happened, I think for me, unfortunately, was when 0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:31.640 I was scoring movies, I had a chance. I got 0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:35.400 this gentleman name usually don't give good she you know 0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:37.160 what I mean, because he he he, he made a 0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:40.560 lot of big mistakes in our business and and he's 0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:44.480 in jail for but you know what I'm talking about that, Yeah, 0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:47.440 but he he he met me when I was scoring 0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:49.680 Kill Bill, and he. 0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:56.399 Saw my charisma. Tarantino ship. 0:45:57.320 --> 0:45:59.040 Yeah, so he saw he saw that I had like 0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:01.880 a magnet is like an actor has to have a 0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.360 madnessys in my thing? And he so then he was 0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:06.640 doing this movie called De Rail. It was him and 0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:11.520 his other producer name of Lorenzo, Lorenzo the brother no Dams. 0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:14.719 I'm a drinking so I can't even say Lorenzo's name, right, 0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:16.520 so I was just to my brother Lorenzo. Let's say 0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:19.640 to a shot to Lorenzo. Lorenzo, but do something mate, 0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:26.759 I Joe and all what the the the vatura? It 0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:31.080 gets better? Yeah, every every every second Lonzo name Okay, 0:46:33.400 --> 0:46:36.120 his name is yeah, let me say I said again, 0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:40.960 Lorenzo d Bonnivataura. Let me say Lorenzo's name right, well, 0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:48.319 Lorenzo d Bonnivatura. And uh and uh and mister bank 0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:51.719 Bong was doing the movie and uh he caught my crib. 0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:51.920 Yo. 0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:56.520 He's like, Rizzo, I'm doing the movie. You still got 0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:58.680 a cryb This is this is, this is this is. 0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:04.040 I sure got a qlip fun You gotta have a 0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.759 qlip phone? What to sound like? Go wow, you can't 0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:07.640 hit nine one one? 0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:15.080 You like this slow battery radio joints just in case, no, 0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:15.560 I got I. 0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:18.600 Gotta we keep a hard wire Plus we got an 0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:22.520 elevator in the crib. And and you got no. The 0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.440 law is you have an elevator in the crib, you 0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:28.560 gotta have a hard wire phone. Okay, that's a law. 0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:35.320 That's not why I got the phone. Okay, but but anyway, 0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:39.200 but he calls the crib and he just says, uhre's 0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:43.640 do my movie. You have a new career. Now, that's 0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.480 like that. I was like, but I had to go 0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:49.719 to London. And so I told my wife and said, well, 0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:51.120 I got to go to London. They want me to 0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:53.440 do this movie. You know what I'm saying. Bunk bom 0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:58.040 can say bunk bom. But and so bam I went 0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:01.759 to London. It was called Derail mh and check this 0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:04.000 it out. So I do this movie right, in this 0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:07.640 particular film, this is when you acted me actings and 0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:11.719 Clive Owens is the is the star and John Carlo 0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:17.400 Esposito right, and my character is not gonna make it 0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:22.439 through the movie because you're black. I'm sorry. Okay, Okay, 0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:29.880 that's a question. I don't know that's rhetorical. It's definitely 0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:34.759 still a typical this particular film. Okay, okay, right, my 0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:36.920 character ain't gonna make it well, and I know that 0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:39.480 I read the script right, but I don't know how 0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:42.399 movies work. Okay, this is your first one, yes, okay, 0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:44.839 your film. Okay, So I'm thinking when I get there, 0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:49.640 everything is linear, like my character, Shit, you're gonna do 0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:51.399 it ship you filmed back, We're gonna do it ship. 0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:53.440 You know, you know which way it's gonna go. But 0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:58.440 on day one they did the shot where they do 0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:04.120 me dirty, you take it out and they gotta do prosthetics. 0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:07.120 They put all this metal ship around my head, put explosives. 0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:10.160 This ship is, this ship is, this ship is traumatizing, 0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:13.520 all right, you know what I mean? They put the 0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:18.320 quarter load. Okay, so this is not like this is 0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:21.759 like this it changes my life, you know what I mean? 0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:27.960 They want Bob. I mean, first first shot of the day, 0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:30.719 you know, they prepping me like, yeah, we're gonna do this. 0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:33.320 And then so so then the movie goes on and 0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:38.279 I'm exactly they want. But then the movie goes on, right, 0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:41.760 And then I said to myself, was shit, the character 0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:47.480 definitely ain't making It's no rewriting of that ship. So 0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:52.759 I better do something to make the character remembered, rememberable, memorable, right, 0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:55.200 And so I So there was this dude in my 0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:57.640 hood that's always whistled every time he came around it. 0:49:57.960 --> 0:49:59.800 And he whistled so much that even when he returned 0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:02.319 to the essence at his funeral, one of his son's 0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:05.600 whistled and the whole everybody just broken. Tears because he 0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:08.040 just had this whistle, and so I said, I'm gonna 0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:11.600 whistle every time my characters show up on screen so 0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:14.439 that when it happens in the movie, the audience gonna 0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:16.480 fil me, right, So sat it out. So I do that. 0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:19.920 And when they do the testing, when they put movies out, 0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:22.200 they test, They test like who you like, who you 0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:27.000 don't like. So my character test is so high that 0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:32.640 they gave him another scene and it caused the casting 0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:38.440 agent to call me for American Gangster. But I went 0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:40.560 into that director later though. He's the police and the 0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:43.839 American gangster. Yeah, exactly, you played a good police, Don't 0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:46.359 give me honest I did. I thought you was the boy. 0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:50.960 I was almost almost called you, like, man, I'm glad. 0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:53.880 I did that good right? 0:50:58.040 --> 0:50:59.400 That would chase the most by the. 0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:03.040 I ain't gonna lie, you know. I got nineteen the 0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:05.319 rest on my sheep. Damn when they when they when 0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:07.480 they when they pulled it out one day, and I'm 0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:10.040 not bragging about this. I just saw it hit the floor. 0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:13.080 This is this is this is this. When I was 0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:17.200 like nineteen, and the judge was like, yo, bro, you 0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:19.080 got to go shut down for a minute, no matter 0:51:19.160 --> 0:51:21.719 what this. This is a petty it's a petty crime 0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:27.360 right here waiting the floor. But but let me go 0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:28.839 back to this director real quick. I know you gonna 0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:31.480 chop this check it out. So now I'm with the 0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:34.840 director years later, and you know I must have some 0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:37.680 success in the in that field. I said, Yo, let 0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:41.279 me ask you this, Why on the very first day 0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:44.640 did you cure my character? 0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:46.839 Like, why can't you let me get used to the set? 0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:49.879 He said? And he's he's a he's a sweetest guy. 0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:54.920 He's like Bobby. Actually, I didn't know if you was 0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:56.480 going to show up for the rest of the movie. 0:51:57.440 --> 0:52:01.120 You know, rappers, they are volatile ship es. Seriously, they 0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:04.279 don't come on time. So I knew I needed that shut. 0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:09.440 Once I got that, I say, whatever he do from here, 0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:13.640 I could cut around. Oh that's crazy, you know, but 0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:16.200 that was a stigma for us. You got to think 0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:21.560 about it. Hip hop comes to Hollywood, the trailers smell yeah. 0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:24.839 I mean, I'm saying, when I realized that, I made 0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:29.399 it my business right, because I'm notoriously known for being late, 0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:32.600 I made it my business not to be I made 0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:36.440 it my business to start being a reliable entity for 0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:40.440 all of us so that when they call somebody know that. Yo. No, no, no, no, 0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:42.560 these days, okay, you know what I mean, they'll show 0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:44.239 up because a lot of hip hop is when we 0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:46.960 was coming to the film, we bought out hip hop, 0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:49.440 so we didn't really have the respective time. Oh it's 0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:57.200 a different, different anyway, bunk bomb, But goddamn, I want 0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:57.520 to go and. 0:52:57.840 --> 0:53:01.960 Dive into Grave Diggers copy? Can you can you like 0:53:02.160 --> 0:53:05.759 what spawned that project? Was it already something in your 0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:07.560 mind in the Wu Tang beginnings? 0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:12.320 No, the Grave Diggers is a brainchild of Prince Paul. Okay, 0:53:12.760 --> 0:53:16.759 so the Grave Diggers Trince Paul super producers. Hold on, 0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:23.359 let's let's let's toast Prince Paul. Look, genus, I don't 0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:25.480 think you get enough. You know, we need him on 0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:31.200 drinks here? Yeah, because because what's Grave Diggers. I'm sorry, 0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:34.080 I'm I'm rushing the question. But what's Grave Higgers considered 0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:37.000 the first horror rap considered? Yeah? Okay, yeah, okay, were 0:53:37.040 --> 0:53:39.200 you considering it that? Like hardcore? Was it a thing 0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:41.480 to you guys doing that? No? I think like, we 0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:43.239 don't name my ship. We didn't even name hip hop. 0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:46.960 Hippo media media media called the horror core. We don't 0:53:47.040 --> 0:53:49.719 name it, you know that, but it was it was 0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:54.279 his brain child. He worked on Tommy Boy. He had 0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:56.680 a lot of success and things like that. But I 0:53:56.760 --> 0:53:59.279 met Prince Paul when I was doing Prince Raking The 0:53:59.440 --> 0:54:03.319 High Hats, my first single was done by Prince Paul. 0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:06.040 I never used to use high hats. Even if some 0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:07.600 of the wou you'll go with this dude didn't pick 0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:10.600 the high hats set right, Paul was like, no, you 0:54:10.680 --> 0:54:12.799 need high hass. You know what I mean? They keep 0:54:12.840 --> 0:54:15.480 the time. But he thought about it, and he said 0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:18.560 four of his favorite them or three of his favorite 0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:20.960 them seeds was fu quan for stuff to sonic right, 0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:24.719 Prince rock King, who didn't make it at the time, 0:54:25.280 --> 0:54:29.320 and too poetic from too poetic right, he thought he 0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:32.640 thought as lyricists that he just loved us as that. 0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:35.960 And so this is before Wu Tang. I'm working on 0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:39.120 Wu Tang, my own business, my own company, all that. 0:54:39.239 --> 0:54:42.439 I'm doing that, but I'm going to Long Island three 0:54:42.520 --> 0:54:46.840 times a week to Prince Paul's house. It's parallel. I 0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:48.960 don't even know. I don't know what's going to happen, 0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:52.840 but I know that Prince Paul is Prince Paul I 0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:56.799 admired him. I think Prince Paul, out of all producers 0:54:56.960 --> 0:55:00.200 and all reality, he's the He's the father of the 0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:01.000 hip hop skit. 0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:04.840 Yeah yeah, seriously, his albums are crazy. 0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:07.239 So even though we did our skits would come through 0:55:07.360 --> 0:55:11.400 movies and Wu Tanger is known for their skits. Doctor 0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:19.160 Dre is known for his skits. Prince seriously, he d albums, 0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:23.040 those Daylight albums, yeah and all that. I forgot that 0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:27.200 those albums so the ass were they were journeys within themselves. 0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:31.200 So anyway, so he thought of bringing us together. Now 0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:35.239 far as of being grave biggas, that wasn't what it's 0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:36.440 going to be. He don't. He don't know what we're 0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:39.000 going to create it. But at the end, but at 0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:42.600 that time, I was in a revery dark space, right, 0:55:43.360 --> 0:55:45.640 So if you go back into that hip hop, I 0:55:45.760 --> 0:55:50.239 created the fangs, all right, but the fans came from 0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:55.239 a dream, all right. When I was young, nine ten 0:55:55.360 --> 0:56:00.520 years old, nigga, the vampires kidnapped me care They threw 0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:02.840 me in the bag and they carried me and the 0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:05.000 dude had a crazy dog with him to His dog 0:56:05.200 --> 0:56:10.840 was Silver. That'sing a silver dog, right, and he was vicious. 0:56:10.920 --> 0:56:13.840 Yoall with a vampire. With a vampire, I like the 0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:16.920 vampire women, you know what I mean? Because might like 0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:21.320 vampire women, but you know, and they threw me in 0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:26.319 the they threw me to the women. And then when 0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:32.080 I became a vampire, I had metal teeth and so 0:56:32.280 --> 0:56:35.320 and so now I'm doing this and like, I got it. 0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:39.279 I'm gonna bring that shit to reality, you know what 0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:41.200 I mean? And so I told the jeel to make 0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.320 the fangs were going grave diggers. You're going a resurrector, 0:56:44.680 --> 0:56:48.279 so me Paul fu Quan and poetic. You know, we 0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:50.879 we brainstormed on it and we thought about what it's 0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:53.560 gonna be. We said, yo, the grave diggers. But the 0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:56.520 grave diggers had another con context. It was like, why 0:56:56.640 --> 0:57:00.640 be a grave digger? Well a calling to According to 0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:08.120 Malcolm X, he said, our people are mentally dead. So 0:57:08.200 --> 0:57:10.719 if our people are mentally dead, that means we got 0:57:10.840 --> 0:57:13.359 to dig them back up and bring them to life. 0:57:13.480 --> 0:57:17.160 So that's why you see the pic the sickle and 0:57:17.280 --> 0:57:20.520 the shovel. The sickle cuts the grass, the pick breaks 0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:23.320 the wood, and the shovel digs them up. You got 0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:28.880 the grim Reaper, the Gatekeeper, the Undertaker, and me, I 0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:31.160 bring it back. I bring you back to life. The 0:57:31.280 --> 0:57:33.160 Resurrector brings it back to life. 0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:38.480 You want to say, just to reiterate, I think it 0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:40.760 was dope, is that it was parallel to Wu Tank. 0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:44.320 It wasn't like, uh, Prince Paul came in and said, oh, 0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:44.720 because of. 0:57:44.760 --> 0:57:47.680 Wu Tang, let's do No, it was parallel. It worked out. 0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:50.720 It looked like from the outside looking at it looked 0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:57.120 like Grave Diggers came after and even that second album 0:57:57.360 --> 0:58:01.320 when we did Wu Tang Forever, we had the whole 0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:06.280 studio complex American Studio and in California. Yea, yeah, yeah, 0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:08.760 so we so no, we had We did both holburs 0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:10.600 at the same time. This album and Wu Tank Forever 0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:13.240 is done at the exact same time. Every I got 0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:17.640 everybody living at the oak Woods and okay, yeah, yeah, 0:58:17.680 --> 0:58:20.160 yea yeah. So we got twenty thirty apartments in the 0:58:20.240 --> 0:58:24.200 oak Woods, Grave Diggers flying and tire Woo flying, sons 0:58:24.240 --> 0:58:26.880 and man flying, and we just kill up priest flies 0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:30.479 and were just in the studio just making music, making music, 0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:32.800 and then Mutank Forever becomes the album and the Grave 0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:33.760 Diggers be coming down, and to. 0:58:33.800 --> 0:58:36.040 Be fair, Prince Poel was already a legend too, Yeah, 0:58:36.160 --> 0:58:38.840 super legend. Yeah yeah, yeah U. 0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:44.160 Kwan made that. Then they's nothing like hip hop. Yeah, 0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:48.720 so we want you to know. Our show is about 0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:52.280 giving people their flowers where they could smell them, they thought, so, 0:58:52.280 --> 0:58:55.480 where they could tell them, they think, where they can 0:58:55.560 --> 0:58:57.280 ding them, and they drinks while they can drink them. 0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:06.760 Yeah yeah, that Snoop Snoop said is better than Grammy 0:59:06.760 --> 0:59:07.959 because it comes from your people. 0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:15.280 I don't think so, right, So. 0:59:15.320 --> 0:59:19.160 I take this. Yeah, that's the point of them. Let 0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:21.480 me say this real quick, and we're not doing that. 0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:25.280 We're not done. Early earlier we got another bomber. Let's go, 0:59:25.400 --> 0:59:27.280 let's go. I do want to say this out loud now. 0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:30.320 You know, I'm proud of you, Yes, proud of what 0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:35.480 you're doing. See, hip hop gave us a voice, and 0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:38.760 for a moment, we thought that voice was limited to 0:59:39.160 --> 0:59:42.800 the beat into the ROMs you're showing improving and some 0:59:42.920 --> 0:59:44.880 other brother but you really kind of pining it in 0:59:44.960 --> 0:59:47.040 a certain way. Yes, that's right. That that that that 0:59:47.320 --> 0:59:50.040 that the voice and the magnetism doesn't have to be 0:59:50.520 --> 0:59:53.200 with the beat in the club. You know, just us, 0:59:53.320 --> 0:59:56.480 just hearing you talk us, hearing you talk to us, us, 0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:59.000 hearing you talk to the to the audience. It's a 0:59:59.080 --> 1:00:01.920 magnetism which you already had when you was doing, but 1:00:02.080 --> 1:00:06.320 now it's just and for for us, you know, sitting 1:00:06.440 --> 1:00:08.560 back and watching, it's like, Wow, the guard just went 1:00:08.600 --> 1:00:11.920 and made foot crunch to a new path, and many 1:00:12.120 --> 1:00:14.600 many people doing and many people following my footsteps. You know, 1:00:15.760 --> 1:00:21.680 they called me the Clarence X a motherfucker mother. But 1:00:21.760 --> 1:00:22.440 let's talk about that. 1:00:22.920 --> 1:00:29.000 Let's talk about that. Let's talk about that real quick. 1:00:29.160 --> 1:00:33.080 Because the other day, uh, well not the other day, 1:00:33.120 --> 1:00:35.400 but like you know, like last month, you know, I'm 1:00:35.560 --> 1:00:38.360 going through New York City and what I saw was 1:00:38.960 --> 1:00:40.720 I don't want to say heartbreaking, but it was it 1:00:40.880 --> 1:00:43.200 was I don't want to say disappointing neither. It was 1:00:43.320 --> 1:00:45.400 different for me, right like going through a hood that 1:00:45.520 --> 1:00:48.480 I don't know and hearing people say saying, Yo, what up, cuz, 1:00:48.920 --> 1:00:50.000 what up? What up? What up? 1:00:50.040 --> 1:00:50.360 Blood? 1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:53.200 And I'm just like, I ain't never used to hear 1:00:53.280 --> 1:00:56.480 that before a days here. You know what's crazy. Even 1:00:56.520 --> 1:01:00.920 if a person came up to you wanting war, you 1:01:01.040 --> 1:01:02.520 know what, the first word they's to say to you 1:01:03.000 --> 1:01:06.919 peace like like you can actually use the word piece 1:01:06.960 --> 1:01:09.920 in a negative way back then, but peace. And you're like, 1:01:10.000 --> 1:01:15.520 oh man, you know what I mean. But when And 1:01:16.000 --> 1:01:21.080 I want you to answer this, when did the gods 1:01:21.160 --> 1:01:25.280 take the back seat and negativity take the front seat. 1:01:26.440 --> 1:01:28.400 I don't know if I have that answer right right, 1:01:29.160 --> 1:01:33.520 because I don't think negative ever really takes the front seat. 1:01:33.600 --> 1:01:35.200 I don't think you know what I worded that wrong? 1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:38.160 You're correct, so so yeah, and I don't think God 1:01:38.200 --> 1:01:40.520 never takes the vaccie. But I'll say that you're saying, 1:01:40.600 --> 1:01:44.520 like when has that? When was the presence of that 1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:50.280 energy right not present? And now you got this other 1:01:50.400 --> 1:01:50.960 energy present? 1:01:51.040 --> 1:01:51.120 Right? 1:01:51.200 --> 1:01:53.400 Like for is this not to be long winning? But 1:01:53.440 --> 1:01:55.040 let me just say, like when I used to go 1:01:55.120 --> 1:01:57.280 to Harlem, it was a thing I wanted to stop 1:01:57.320 --> 1:01:59.160 it in law schooling back like like I wanted to 1:01:59.160 --> 1:02:00.920 I want to go get some I wonder would get 1:02:00.920 --> 1:02:03.640 some oiels like I don't even see the instant man 1:02:03.760 --> 1:02:06.080 out there no more, like you know what I'm saying, 1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:07.680 so like I don't even know if a law of 1:02:07.680 --> 1:02:10.400 school with Mecca is still there, like they're still there, Okay, Okay, 1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:12.600 it's still there. Well, I'll say this like I'm sorry, 1:02:12.640 --> 1:02:13.520 I'm sorry. I think no. 1:02:14.080 --> 1:02:16.680 A couple of things happened in New York, you know. 1:02:16.960 --> 1:02:20.920 First and foremost, I think it was when Juliani he 1:02:21.040 --> 1:02:23.480 made everything get off the streets. Remember that he made 1:02:23.520 --> 1:02:26.000 everybody go inside the building and pay and pay rent 1:02:26.280 --> 1:02:29.160 right right right, and and so that took away the 1:02:29.240 --> 1:02:33.800 street culture for a moment. The gentrification of that probably 1:02:33.880 --> 1:02:36.760 really put a big because you can walk in New 1:02:36.840 --> 1:02:40.200 York and you can find rare books like the iis paper, right, 1:02:40.320 --> 1:02:42.320 you know what I mean. They came by the call. 1:02:42.440 --> 1:02:44.560 They came before Columbus, the final call, you know what 1:02:44.600 --> 1:02:47.240 I mean. So now you can't find that, you know 1:02:47.280 --> 1:02:51.640 what I mean. So but also it's like the you know, 1:02:51.760 --> 1:02:55.160 the brothers also went out too, to the world, right, 1:02:55.240 --> 1:02:57.840 So it's almost like, you know a lot of a 1:02:57.880 --> 1:03:00.240 lot of brothers went. You go to DC, you go 1:03:00.320 --> 1:03:02.160 to Minnesota, you go to different places. You see that 1:03:02.240 --> 1:03:06.560 brothers have kind of spread out, I mean atl But 1:03:06.720 --> 1:03:10.640 in our day, all that energy was concentrated, you know 1:03:10.680 --> 1:03:13.600 what I mean. And then the magnetism of it has 1:03:13.720 --> 1:03:17.240 changed because of what magnetized the people. Now, people who 1:03:17.240 --> 1:03:22.400 are more magnetized by money. Right, So the mathematics teaches 1:03:22.480 --> 1:03:27.320 us about the twelve jewels right, knowledge, wisdom, understanding, freedom, 1:03:27.480 --> 1:03:31.000 justice and equality, food, clothing and shelter, love, piece and happiness. 1:03:31.920 --> 1:03:37.200 But most people right now, their concerns is food, clothing, 1:03:37.720 --> 1:03:42.440 and shelter. The other jewels almost irrelevant. And then for 1:03:42.520 --> 1:03:44.920 our community, the only way to get food, clothing and 1:03:45.040 --> 1:03:48.680 shelter is with money. Then the only way to get 1:03:48.760 --> 1:03:52.480 money in our community is that which we see is 1:03:52.600 --> 1:03:56.400 shining with money, which is our artists, our ball players, 1:03:57.160 --> 1:03:59.720 you know what I mean, the talent like we don't 1:03:59.720 --> 1:04:05.040 know that that, or we don't see the doctor live 1:04:05.160 --> 1:04:07.240 next door to the ball player. We don't know that, 1:04:08.080 --> 1:04:10.040 you know what I mean. So our image of what 1:04:10.200 --> 1:04:12.959 we think that attracts us and could get us those 1:04:13.200 --> 1:04:18.200 three major jewels is the artist point of view. And 1:04:18.280 --> 1:04:21.000 then the artist point of view have changed. So in 1:04:21.160 --> 1:04:25.040 our day, it's rock Kim's cars, one Big Daddy Kane, right, 1:04:25.520 --> 1:04:28.680 or it's Woutang it's nots right, you know what I mean? 1:04:29.200 --> 1:04:32.040 You know is that? And then it becomes more and 1:04:32.160 --> 1:04:38.240 more people that don't have this knowledge of self right, right, 1:04:38.760 --> 1:04:41.360 and and yet they're getting richer and richer. So the 1:04:41.440 --> 1:04:43.760 young mind is like, yo, why why would I like, 1:04:43.880 --> 1:04:47.120 why would I study when all I could do is 1:04:47.240 --> 1:04:49.960 do this and get it? And so the so the 1:04:50.040 --> 1:04:54.680 magnetism have changed, and then the brothers themselves. It's almost like, 1:04:55.400 --> 1:05:03.520 I think men get scared to talk to young men. Yeah, yeah, 1:05:03.560 --> 1:05:05.440 you know what I mean. And I don't think that's 1:05:05.480 --> 1:05:08.840 that's that's unhealthy for us. Yeah, you know, I think. 1:05:09.000 --> 1:05:11.760 And then you know, like, look, let me keep it 1:05:11.880 --> 1:05:13.880 raw for a moment. You can censor me if you need. 1:05:14.840 --> 1:05:17.800 You know, we at that age right in our power ciphers, 1:05:17.880 --> 1:05:20.360 right when I mean by power sycles, Yeah, most of 1:05:20.440 --> 1:05:23.840 us who are there, right, power is the truth, right, 1:05:23.880 --> 1:05:27.880 It's a magnetic attraction. Right, he's fifty years old. I 1:05:28.000 --> 1:05:31.080 just turned congratulations. Can you remember that? Can you remember that? 1:05:35.760 --> 1:05:37.720 As of course that threshold? Let me let me get 1:05:37.720 --> 1:05:48.000 your flowers to man, I was like, no, good, no, okay, 1:05:48.080 --> 1:05:50.680 I'm saying, you know, it's like, okay, so everybody got podcasts, 1:05:50.720 --> 1:05:55.440 everybody's talking, but most of us are talking about glory days. 1:05:57.040 --> 1:05:59.880 Most of us are talking about the darkness of it. 1:06:00.520 --> 1:06:02.920 And I unders ain't talking about the light. There's nobody 1:06:03.000 --> 1:06:07.560 sitting there saying like, yo, when I first read Message 1:06:07.600 --> 1:06:11.600 to the Black Man, or when I first read The 1:06:11.680 --> 1:06:14.480 Circle Seven, when I first read Malcolm X right, or 1:06:14.680 --> 1:06:17.520 or or any great books. You know James Allen as 1:06:17.560 --> 1:06:20.080 a man thinker. You know what I mean, The Art 1:06:20.120 --> 1:06:22.400 of War sun Zoo. You know what I mean, The 1:06:22.440 --> 1:06:27.280 Book of Changes to Each Ching, Right, nobody's talking that, right. 1:06:27.680 --> 1:06:30.400 We're we all trying to prove who's the most gangster. 1:06:31.920 --> 1:06:33.840 So we are trying to prove who's the most gangster 1:06:33.920 --> 1:06:36.240 whatever our children want to be trying to do, prove 1:06:36.240 --> 1:06:39.320 who the most gangster so and so so, so that 1:06:39.440 --> 1:06:42.040 has to change. We got to be listen, bro. 1:06:43.440 --> 1:06:43.800 Gangster. 1:06:45.800 --> 1:06:54.760 Seriously, Malcolm X okay, walking talking that talk at the 1:06:54.800 --> 1:06:59.040 time when you couldn't talk it, traveling, pulling up to 1:06:59.120 --> 1:07:04.960 your city to teach you how to be better and 1:07:05.400 --> 1:07:08.080 and to teach you the power of a black man, 1:07:08.640 --> 1:07:13.520 and to teach you the the the revelation that the 1:07:13.640 --> 1:07:18.880 system is actually being plotted against you. And the system 1:07:19.000 --> 1:07:24.680 is like what you're saying, you know, Doctor King Marching 1:07:25.600 --> 1:07:29.840 turned another tee hit with fire holes and dogs, knowing 1:07:29.880 --> 1:07:31.479 they were going to go into that noo. They walked 1:07:31.520 --> 1:07:34.160 into it. They knew it. Yeah, so so that that 1:07:34.280 --> 1:07:36.880 part of us. And ain't just saying I don't want 1:07:36.880 --> 1:07:38.640 to make this. It's not even a black thing. I'm 1:07:38.680 --> 1:07:42.640 just saying an American thing. The American Revolution itself, bro, 1:07:43.720 --> 1:07:48.480 was people saying, yo, son, I can't pay taxation with 1:07:48.600 --> 1:07:51.880 our representation, sir. You know they was. Let me just 1:07:52.000 --> 1:07:56.480 give you that jewel. Imagine this, bro, in the in 1:07:56.560 --> 1:08:01.520 the old America, if you made some nice cotton shirts 1:08:01.640 --> 1:08:08.040 in America, you had to ship them to London and 1:08:08.160 --> 1:08:11.080 then London package them and sip them back and sell 1:08:11.120 --> 1:08:13.560 them to you. If you live next door to me 1:08:14.600 --> 1:08:17.720 in the old America before the revolution, you can live 1:08:17.920 --> 1:08:20.800 next door and I could write you a letter and 1:08:21.240 --> 1:08:21.800 mail it to you. 1:08:22.360 --> 1:08:27.440 It will go to London first. Oh, because London had control. 1:08:28.800 --> 1:08:32.400 To get back you say in London, I'm thinking London 1:08:32.439 --> 1:08:43.160 When you say you mean, you mean, I'm thinking like London. Okay, 1:08:43.200 --> 1:08:45.400 I get it, I get it. No, but think about that, right, 1:08:45.520 --> 1:08:48.519 so so so people were brave enough to be vote 1:08:48.560 --> 1:08:52.759 against that. It was to we vote against taxation without representation, 1:08:52.880 --> 1:08:56.439 to we vote against tyranny, you know what I mean. 1:08:56.960 --> 1:09:00.280 And so triviny manifests itself in many forms, and people 1:09:00.560 --> 1:09:05.040 weren't food and diluted to accept it. And so then 1:09:05.080 --> 1:09:06.560 we go back to this is not going into the 1:09:06.640 --> 1:09:10.360 hip hop culture. It's like yo, of course it should 1:09:10.400 --> 1:09:13.640 be fun and it should be ruggedness, you know what 1:09:13.680 --> 1:09:15.479 I mean. We came with ruggedness, we know what we did, 1:09:16.200 --> 1:09:19.960 but still it should be substance, right, you know what 1:09:20.000 --> 1:09:23.040 I mean. And until the substance come back, you're going 1:09:23.080 --> 1:09:29.040 to definitely be dealing with, you know, the eighty five 1:09:29.160 --> 1:09:32.080 mentality and what I mean about the eighty five mentality. 1:09:32.200 --> 1:09:35.679 So the eighty five they say people who are easily 1:09:35.800 --> 1:09:38.680 let in the wrong direction and hard to be let 1:09:38.720 --> 1:09:41.679 in the right direction, you know what I mean. They're 1:09:41.720 --> 1:09:46.200 also poisoned animal eaters, it says, people who don't even 1:09:46.280 --> 1:09:49.920 know their true origin in the world. They don't know 1:09:50.000 --> 1:09:54.120 their own power. I think about you know, someone who 1:09:54.600 --> 1:09:57.599 this thing about a community, you know who gets up 1:09:58.960 --> 1:10:02.240 and everybody got to dollar and they take it out 1:10:02.280 --> 1:10:08.000 of the community instead of keeping it in the community 1:10:08.680 --> 1:10:13.360 and rotating and recycling it. So those times it's changed. 1:10:13.400 --> 1:10:18.960 But I'm optimistic, but not pessimistic. And knowledge is not 1:10:19.640 --> 1:10:23.880 what they call it. Intelligence is always relevant because people 1:10:23.880 --> 1:10:25.599 are like, oh, you ain't relevant no more. Listen, bro, 1:10:26.240 --> 1:10:31.960 intelligence is always relevant. And anybody who gets too far 1:10:32.120 --> 1:10:35.200 away from that, all he's going to do is get 1:10:35.280 --> 1:10:39.280 up to a certain height and he's going to distill back. Right. 1:10:39.400 --> 1:10:44.880 So water never ridses above six miles from the Earth's surface, right, because. 1:10:46.040 --> 1:10:47.800 It can't get heavier than gravitation. 1:10:48.920 --> 1:10:50.600 He said, So when the water rides up there, and 1:10:50.680 --> 1:10:53.000 you could put that to a person, he's rising up 1:10:53.040 --> 1:10:55.720 and he's having these attracting powers, and he's getting up 1:10:56.080 --> 1:10:58.200 and then he gets up and now all of a sudden, boom, 1:10:58.240 --> 1:11:03.880 he's gonna come back down a m for hell, right, 1:11:04.479 --> 1:11:08.000 hopefully snow because the snow was light, pure and fluffy, 1:11:08.160 --> 1:11:11.920 you know what I mean. But this is the same 1:11:11.960 --> 1:11:13.800 thing in the personality of the people, the same thing 1:11:13.840 --> 1:11:21.400 in the celebrity I watched some of us, Like I'll 1:11:21.479 --> 1:11:24.080 use myself as an example. It's like when I became 1:11:24.240 --> 1:11:26.320 like the number one, Like it was like number one, 1:11:27.479 --> 1:11:29.000 you know what I mean. I call it a complex. 1:11:30.280 --> 1:11:32.679 You know what I mean. It's a high, it's a drug. 1:11:32.760 --> 1:11:34.760 It's like I'm number one nigga and can't tell me 1:11:34.920 --> 1:11:38.680 ship yo, He couldn't tell me nothing serious. I was 1:11:38.720 --> 1:11:44.320 with Quincy Jones and wasn't even listening to him. You 1:11:44.520 --> 1:11:49.439 was with Chrissy. I'm number one, you know what I mean? 1:11:50.000 --> 1:11:53.640 Knowing no, But even when Tyson was number one, he 1:11:53.800 --> 1:11:55.800 was I'm the best in the world. I'm I'm a 1:11:55.920 --> 1:11:58.960 Zodie at cancer. So maybe no, it's but it's an 1:11:59.000 --> 1:12:07.200 ego thing that kicks. I know you felt it, and 1:12:07.320 --> 1:12:12.040 so now all of a sudden, do you believe you? 1:12:12.120 --> 1:12:14.720 Believe you it? You would have chosenhim, you know what 1:12:14.760 --> 1:12:18.600 I mean, And everything you do is right, But it 1:12:18.680 --> 1:12:22.400 ain't I'm saying in the law. You know, he's merciful 1:12:22.960 --> 1:12:25.599 and if and if you're meant for his grace, he'll 1:12:25.680 --> 1:12:28.000 smack you with something. He threw Jonah in the belly 1:12:28.520 --> 1:12:31.920 of the well and sit down and think, homie, you 1:12:32.040 --> 1:12:33.240 know what I mean. He had to sit there and 1:12:33.320 --> 1:12:36.519 meditate for a moment, you know what I mean, and 1:12:36.640 --> 1:12:40.760 then realize, oh, I better do what I'm ordained to do, 1:12:41.400 --> 1:12:44.960 not do what my ego is leading me to. You know, 1:12:46.680 --> 1:12:48.720 I talk about Jonah a lot to my buddies and 1:12:48.800 --> 1:12:53.479 ship right, because not Jodah hell no, now Jonah hell 1:12:53.840 --> 1:12:56.360 Jonah in the water on you and they say that 1:12:56.680 --> 1:12:58.920 tak it. Imagine this though this don't imagine this and 1:12:59.000 --> 1:13:00.679 this is not the funny part. Drank champs. 1:13:01.120 --> 1:13:01.200 Right. 1:13:01.640 --> 1:13:07.280 Imagine you on a boat partying with homies. A storm 1:13:07.400 --> 1:13:10.240 is coming and you kind of the new guy there, 1:13:11.600 --> 1:13:14.320 and they go, yo, we've been kind of cool before this. 1:13:14.600 --> 1:13:17.519 This guy is something might be him, and they take 1:13:17.600 --> 1:13:21.519 you and throw you off the boat. That's what happened 1:13:21.560 --> 1:13:23.680 to him. Wow, he goes in the water. According to 1:13:23.760 --> 1:13:26.360 the story, right, whether it's myth or magic whatever, but 1:13:26.400 --> 1:13:29.000 let's just take the story. He gets swallowed up by 1:13:29.080 --> 1:13:34.400 the well. Now, imagine you inside a well. He closed 1:13:34.439 --> 1:13:39.599 his mouth, and two hours later, you're still there. Now 1:13:39.800 --> 1:13:42.920 two hours you in there like, oh shit, what the fuck? 1:13:43.040 --> 1:13:46.439 You ain't dead though, this is my life, right, you 1:13:46.520 --> 1:13:48.960 ain't dead, but you trust me. You're thinking you're gonna 1:13:49.000 --> 1:13:54.160 be dead any minute now. But now it's four hours. Now, 1:13:54.200 --> 1:13:59.559 it's six hours. You ain't dead. But now it's twelve hours. Now, 1:13:59.640 --> 1:14:04.040 it's twenty four hours. Nigga, you fall asleep, nigga, Now 1:14:04.120 --> 1:14:09.760 you wake up, you're still there. Now you're hungry. Right now, 1:14:10.600 --> 1:14:13.600 you gotta smell it, you gotta feel the flesh. You 1:14:13.640 --> 1:14:20.360 gotta it's dark now twelve hours later. You don't know 1:14:20.400 --> 1:14:22.240 what time you lost time now you don't want to 1:14:22.280 --> 1:14:25.960 sleep right now, you don't know. But there's another twenty four. 1:14:26.640 --> 1:14:30.639 Still ain't getting nowhere, Still ain't eating, You don't piss, 1:14:31.520 --> 1:14:35.760 you don't took a shit. Listen, is deep? You like this, 1:14:36.640 --> 1:14:41.840 but you're alive. And then on that seventy second hour, 1:14:42.520 --> 1:14:45.000 the Mercy Issue and he opens up the spitch. The 1:14:45.040 --> 1:14:49.320 fucking man Jonah went right to his job. Boy, you 1:14:49.360 --> 1:14:51.320 know what I mean? This is a life will humble you. Yeah, 1:14:51.439 --> 1:14:54.000 and that's a blessing. You know that happened to me 1:14:54.240 --> 1:14:56.479 in a different way, you know what I mean? When 1:14:56.479 --> 1:14:58.120 I thought I was the greatest and at the top, 1:14:59.360 --> 1:15:01.800 you know what I mean, something happened in my life. 1:15:01.800 --> 1:15:01.920 You know. 1:15:02.439 --> 1:15:05.080 Always in all my shot that's with your audience. It's 1:15:05.160 --> 1:15:07.160 like my mom's passed away. In the year two thousand, 1:15:07.560 --> 1:15:09.519 while I was at the photo shoot for the cover 1:15:09.600 --> 1:15:12.040 of the Sauce and the cover says where the Wu 1:15:12.120 --> 1:15:15.600 Tang Empire Rise again, And we had some preme clientele. 1:15:15.920 --> 1:15:17.800 So I was like, yeah, definitely about to fuck these 1:15:18.280 --> 1:15:21.680 motherfucker's up. This album is is it. This is a 1:15:21.760 --> 1:15:26.559 five micer, you know what I mean. But yet, Bama Lama, 1:15:27.320 --> 1:15:29.360 you see what I mean. So and what that do 1:15:29.560 --> 1:15:33.160 for you is like okay, you realize, okay, your calling 1:15:33.280 --> 1:15:38.040 is more serious than the art. But be an artist, right, 1:15:38.200 --> 1:15:41.439 be an artist, That's what I am. But make sure 1:15:41.479 --> 1:15:44.280 you stay in tuned. So I took the time from 1:15:44.320 --> 1:15:47.400 that point, I visited many temples around the world. You 1:15:47.439 --> 1:15:50.479 know what I mean. I went to Shiling Temple, Wu 1:15:50.560 --> 1:15:53.400 Tang Temple. Me and my wife did. We went on church. 1:15:53.520 --> 1:15:56.639 We go to churches, bro all types of churches. Went 1:15:56.680 --> 1:15:59.000 to Mecca, went to the mosque, went to the Blue Mosque, 1:15:59.360 --> 1:16:03.360 Abu Da. He went to pyramids of Egypt, all these 1:16:03.360 --> 1:16:06.479 spiritual things. Right. So that so me as an artist, 1:16:06.920 --> 1:16:10.120 when you do get something from the riza, you're gonna 1:16:10.160 --> 1:16:13.240 get that, You're gonna get this element of like, Okay, 1:16:13.840 --> 1:16:18.400 it won't be just without cause, without bloods. It will 1:16:18.479 --> 1:16:22.280 be peace God because God is a Greek word that 1:16:22.439 --> 1:16:26.240 means wisdom, strength, and beauty. And it's just three attributes 1:16:26.280 --> 1:16:28.880 of a law. It's not the whole ninety nine. It's 1:16:28.920 --> 1:16:31.920 just three attributes. But yet when we look at each other, 1:16:32.240 --> 1:16:34.360 we should see that wisdom. We should see that strength, 1:16:34.520 --> 1:16:37.120 We should see that beauty. We should see that and 1:16:37.240 --> 1:16:39.280 you should try to radiate that. You should try to 1:16:39.680 --> 1:16:41.679 You know, if you don't got if you got strength, 1:16:41.800 --> 1:16:45.240 gains some wisdom, you don't be a strong, dumb motherfucker. 1:16:47.280 --> 1:16:49.679 If you got wisdom and strength gains some beauty, don't 1:16:49.720 --> 1:16:54.640 be a strong, smart, funky motherfucker. So these things you 1:16:54.680 --> 1:16:57.960 know are important. Bump bump, God, damn, let's take a 1:16:57.960 --> 1:17:05.960 shot for that. Well, tell about quick time with slime works. 1:17:06.080 --> 1:17:06.519 Let's do it. 1:17:08.720 --> 1:17:12.639 This is our drinking game. We're gonna give you two choices. 1:17:14.240 --> 1:17:18.000 You pick one, we don't drink if you say both 1:17:18.120 --> 1:17:20.400 are neither. So basically, you don't really want to answer it. 1:17:20.720 --> 1:17:23.479 I want to be politically correct. Then we all drink. 1:17:24.200 --> 1:17:26.680 But really, the two the two choices we give you 1:17:26.800 --> 1:17:27.799 is not about this and anybody. 1:17:27.840 --> 1:17:30.200 Really, we just want to bring up conversations about the 1:17:30.240 --> 1:17:31.360 people we're mentioned here. 1:17:31.479 --> 1:17:37.080 All good, cool, going to the second bottle? Yeah, oh, 1:17:37.120 --> 1:17:37.639 this is done. 1:17:37.960 --> 1:17:38.120 Lead that. 1:17:38.800 --> 1:17:42.320 We're gonna leave that for the brothers way here, okay, cool, cool, 1:17:44.080 --> 1:17:53.479 this is long, y'all, y'all went in ready. 1:17:54.280 --> 1:17:58.280 I'm always tupoker d m X in which way? 1:17:58.520 --> 1:18:01.760 If this is okay, So everybody asked that question, this 1:18:01.880 --> 1:18:03.760 is whatever criteria in your mind. 1:18:04.160 --> 1:18:06.160 It could be you were closer with one person. 1:18:06.439 --> 1:18:09.160 One person make better spaghetti, one person was a better rapper, 1:18:09.600 --> 1:18:11.840 better producer, whatever whatever in your mind. 1:18:11.960 --> 1:18:14.880 Yeah, I think, well, I'm gonna break the rules of 1:18:14.960 --> 1:18:17.120 your game, and I'm gonna drink when I drink. And 1:18:19.040 --> 1:18:22.280 but you mentioned Tupac and d m X, right, but 1:18:22.439 --> 1:18:26.799 actually mentioned two of the most spiritually and tuned artists 1:18:27.000 --> 1:18:30.240 of hip hop prolific. Yeah right, I'm serious. I mean 1:18:30.280 --> 1:18:32.920 they weren't toned spirit a little bit more, you know 1:18:32.960 --> 1:18:36.680 what I mean? So okay, they don't seem like I 1:18:36.760 --> 1:18:40.599 just know they both had that had that spiritual energy 1:18:41.400 --> 1:18:43.360 that just exuded out of them, you know what I mean? 1:18:43.760 --> 1:18:49.400 So both Okay, Okay, played the game. 1:18:49.640 --> 1:18:52.360 Yeah, you gotta take the shot I took. 1:18:52.439 --> 1:18:58.720 I took my shot. Jamie is gonna be running around 1:18:59.040 --> 1:19:08.960 next Okay, Yeah, Nasa or Jiz in which way? Just 1:19:09.040 --> 1:19:13.000 the way? No, that both very powerful brothers. Right, But 1:19:13.240 --> 1:19:18.080 look for the MC, and my favorite best MC is 1:19:18.120 --> 1:19:21.160 the Juster. Okay, I don't think no MC could beat 1:19:21.200 --> 1:19:24.160 the just I think with have written for hip hop. 1:19:24.600 --> 1:19:27.080 No other MC compare. Even if you go to rock Kim, 1:19:27.360 --> 1:19:30.479 who is one of the greatest, right and most people, 1:19:30.600 --> 1:19:32.720 he is the greatest, and NAS is most people is 1:19:32.840 --> 1:19:35.680 the greatest, right. Right. If I go back and I 1:19:35.800 --> 1:19:39.160 look at what offered to hip hop, right, and then 1:19:39.240 --> 1:19:44.639 look at what US spawned right, Us spawned me right, 1:19:45.680 --> 1:19:50.439 dirty meth ray ghosts, these are all from us, is 1:19:50.520 --> 1:19:54.679 the enlightener, and you go get all your top MC's. 1:19:54.720 --> 1:19:56.880 I'm saying this with a little EGO on my back, 1:19:57.000 --> 1:20:02.880 for ego won't get he won't leave Naje what what 1:20:04.080 --> 1:20:08.479 the war? All pholytically right is Actually no one has 1:20:08.560 --> 1:20:12.280 mastered yet, you know what I mean? Now outside the 1:20:12.360 --> 1:20:17.439 world with NAS did is this to me? Nas is 1:20:17.560 --> 1:20:20.880 to me? This is my own only analogy. I call 1:20:21.040 --> 1:20:25.200 NAS a Bobby Fisher of MC's because Bobby Fisher was 1:20:25.240 --> 1:20:29.439 the youngest MC to the youngest chess master to master. 1:20:29.560 --> 1:20:32.320 He became a grand master at the youngest age. There's 1:20:32.320 --> 1:20:35.080 a few that beat him over the years, but he 1:20:35.320 --> 1:20:37.600 was the first one at that age to be and 1:20:38.120 --> 1:20:42.160 NAS was a master at the age of sixteen seventeen, 1:20:42.680 --> 1:20:44.479 where most of us because you met us we was 1:20:44.520 --> 1:20:49.040 already in our twenties, but he was at the age 1:20:49.080 --> 1:20:53.040 of seventeen eighteen dope at somebody that was twenty five 1:20:53.240 --> 1:20:56.519 thirty true and you know, serious due he was a 1:20:56.680 --> 1:21:00.600 he's a he's a prodigy child of MC in you 1:21:00.640 --> 1:21:02.680 know what I mean. But the just is already there 1:21:02.800 --> 1:21:09.120 by the time we meet, he's already writing ideas. You know, 1:21:09.360 --> 1:21:10.720 that's just one day. 1:21:10.800 --> 1:21:10.920 You know. 1:21:11.880 --> 1:21:15.439 I'm our challenge hip hop to do this. Get every 1:21:15.680 --> 1:21:20.720 MC lyrics and put them in a book and then 1:21:21.000 --> 1:21:23.840 measure it that way and see what you gain from it. 1:21:24.040 --> 1:21:26.880 Right if some make you smile, laugh or teach you 1:21:27.040 --> 1:21:29.479 game like you know, some rappers they give you the game, 1:21:30.280 --> 1:21:32.240 you don't even teach you how to hustle. You know 1:21:32.280 --> 1:21:35.040 what I'm saying. The Rule's gonna teach you how to 1:21:35.120 --> 1:21:37.680 love and all reality. And you saw going through some 1:21:37.760 --> 1:21:40.679 of these lyrics. Bro. First of all, the quantum science, 1:21:40.840 --> 1:21:43.760 the dude that built the Internet motem, you know, the 1:21:43.800 --> 1:21:48.240 Internet motive is No, you don't have you know what, 1:21:49.720 --> 1:21:54.519 Let you go the box. Listen, listen to the thirty 1:21:54.560 --> 1:21:58.640 six A talk about that. I'm saying that hit his 1:21:58.840 --> 1:22:03.080 brain cells opened. So that's what we do we open 1:22:03.200 --> 1:22:06.000 up your brain cells? We cause that. See, when you 1:22:06.120 --> 1:22:10.360 burn wood, you get fueled. You brain burn brain cells, 1:22:10.400 --> 1:22:13.240 you get thoughts. You put the right kind of wood, 1:22:13.640 --> 1:22:16.280 you get better fuel. Let's smoke. You put the right 1:22:16.360 --> 1:22:19.400 type of thoughts and energy, you get better ideas. You 1:22:19.439 --> 1:22:22.080 know what I mean. So, so Judah said in one 1:22:22.120 --> 1:22:26.200 of his lyrics, uh, something about via satellite from the 1:22:26.240 --> 1:22:34.160 Woo mansion, looking at all the branches that came from 1:22:34.200 --> 1:22:37.519 his tree. He wasn't talking about just the Woo. We 1:22:37.560 --> 1:22:42.479 were just talking about all the MC's that the Woo inspired. Now, right, 1:22:42.680 --> 1:22:44.559 And I'm gonna say last thing about the Jist because 1:22:44.560 --> 1:22:47.400 I'm so he's my enlighten up. So what is for 1:22:47.520 --> 1:22:49.680 hip hop? And he won't never say it because he 1:22:49.800 --> 1:22:52.120 never comes out. He's pretty humble, and we need him 1:22:52.120 --> 1:22:55.599 on drinks. He's the one last member of After You. Okay, 1:22:56.320 --> 1:23:02.400 he drinks. But what he is for hip hop? He's 1:23:02.479 --> 1:23:08.400 actually the bridge. So when hip hop started in South Bronx, right, 1:23:09.439 --> 1:23:14.280 some would say nineteen seventy three, right, right, there's a 1:23:14.360 --> 1:23:20.120 project called Soundview Projects. Right, he's his cousin lives there. 1:23:21.240 --> 1:23:24.200 He's learning it from there. Wow. But he's the he's 1:23:24.240 --> 1:23:26.479 the thirteen year old. He bought hip hop to me 1:23:26.600 --> 1:23:31.040 in nineteen seventy six. I was bought in seventy seven. Okay, 1:23:31.320 --> 1:23:38.680 he took me to the Bronx, to the Jams, right, 1:23:38.720 --> 1:23:41.280 but we the kids, though. I got my ass whipped 1:23:42.280 --> 1:23:44.920 from staying out again on the train here. Okay, okay, 1:23:45.240 --> 1:23:49.280 check it out bus bus note from the shallon bus 1:23:49.720 --> 1:23:55.320 boat train. Jesus seriously. So I got to talk about 1:23:55.360 --> 1:23:59.480 that because because hip hop got all this great godfathers 1:23:59.520 --> 1:24:03.519 and pillars, right, and and it may sound egotistic to 1:24:03.520 --> 1:24:06.000 say that, but Wu Tang became one of those pillars. 1:24:06.160 --> 1:24:09.560 And that's because we have not the founding forefathers. We 1:24:09.640 --> 1:24:14.639 have the first generation from them who was amongst them 1:24:15.160 --> 1:24:19.600 as as as a spectator. So maybe only then it 1:24:19.720 --> 1:24:23.479 was only at best. I wouldn't even say one hundred mcs, right, 1:24:23.520 --> 1:24:25.680 you said it gets diluted after that? Yeah, right, you 1:24:25.720 --> 1:24:27.000 know what I'm saying. When I learned how to MC, 1:24:27.479 --> 1:24:31.639 it wasn't five hundred of us, you know. But anyway, 1:24:32.320 --> 1:24:37.000 keep going, Okay, so he pictures, Yeah, okay, bum bomb. 1:24:37.120 --> 1:24:40.680 I don't got to drink then, okay, you don't have 1:24:40.800 --> 1:24:46.080 to drink cool fourth disciple or true Master as producers 1:24:46.400 --> 1:24:46.960 as whatever. 1:24:49.880 --> 1:24:51.200 These questions are made by these guys. 1:24:51.280 --> 1:24:55.760 Just I'm saying, well, no, no, true master, the fourth 1:24:55.880 --> 1:24:58.800 is the disciples, the true masters, a master. He was 1:24:58.840 --> 1:25:01.280 already a master before Fourth became in the slight. But 1:25:01.320 --> 1:25:06.000 Fourth is dope though, but true mass the Uh yeah, 1:25:06.320 --> 1:25:07.960 if I was a pitt the measure, if I was 1:25:08.000 --> 1:25:10.640 to measure them from my camp of who was the 1:25:11.120 --> 1:25:14.080 wh who laid it the illess, they had true mass, 1:25:14.280 --> 1:25:15.560 you know what I mean? He has, He has the 1:25:15.640 --> 1:25:18.040 proof of it is he has more songs on the 1:25:18.080 --> 1:25:22.439 Wu Tang album than Fourth. But Fourth was young young 1:25:22.560 --> 1:25:26.000 man and he was special, special young man, and he 1:25:26.080 --> 1:25:27.200 did his thing for us. Yeah. 1:25:29.080 --> 1:25:32.960 DJ muggs are large, large pro and which way I 1:25:33.000 --> 1:25:38.560 guess it could be whatever, but playing waves on it because. 1:25:39.960 --> 1:25:41.800 Like yo, that's my mass. Like yo, he made me 1:25:41.920 --> 1:25:44.639 ill macaroniy one day. No, no, no, both my man, 1:25:44.720 --> 1:25:47.880 I mean mugs. First of all, lost professor. Once again, 1:25:47.880 --> 1:25:52.640 we don't talk enough about lost professor. That's another one 1:25:52.680 --> 1:25:54.320 that want to die. His heir neither he don't want 1:25:54.320 --> 1:25:58.599 to die. Yeah, man, we're showing you how to gratefully exactly, 1:25:58.920 --> 1:26:03.120 beautiful bro but let me talk about them. I mean, 1:26:03.200 --> 1:26:07.280 Muggs is Mugs, right, and you know so much to 1:26:07.320 --> 1:26:12.639 the culture, Soul Assassin, you know, but you know, Lost 1:26:12.680 --> 1:26:17.439 Professor there's the pioneer. Yes, Like so it's like I'm 1:26:17.479 --> 1:26:18.960 sure that I'm sure that. 1:26:19.360 --> 1:26:21.439 That would probably exactly. 1:26:21.439 --> 1:26:24.960 I'm sure that Lost Professor inspired Mugs. Muggs inspired Lost Professor. 1:26:25.280 --> 1:26:28.920 That's a good way to look at this ship the time. Yeah, so, 1:26:29.040 --> 1:26:31.600 and I would say that, but I just want to 1:26:31.600 --> 1:26:36.640 say that that that he needs we need more light 1:26:36.760 --> 1:26:42.840 on him because he's like, uh, he's like one of 1:26:42.920 --> 1:26:44.960 those Red Bentley's, Like you know what I mean, Like 1:26:44.960 --> 1:26:46.320 you know some people got a Bentley like you see 1:26:46.320 --> 1:26:52.400 that other he's a vintage car bro he's Lost Professor, 1:26:52.880 --> 1:26:53.920 you know what I mean. I don't and I don't 1:26:53.920 --> 1:26:56.040 spend a lot of time spend I didn't even get 1:26:56.040 --> 1:26:57.599 five days in life with him, you know what I mean. 1:26:58.040 --> 1:27:00.839 When I see him, I just automatically have a reverence 1:27:00.920 --> 1:27:01.320 for him. 1:27:01.280 --> 1:27:04.439 And probably one of the first producer slash ms. 1:27:05.240 --> 1:27:07.360 Yeah, and with with his lyrics. 1:27:07.760 --> 1:27:11.120 No, it wasn't like them sne part was was not 1:27:11.240 --> 1:27:13.320 as good as the producing Like he was just good. 1:27:13.880 --> 1:27:16.720 Yeah. So sounding like you pick it laws from. Yeah, okay, Hice, 1:27:16.760 --> 1:27:20.080 we don't got a drink we can make. So this 1:27:20.160 --> 1:27:22.439 is a two part question. This is a two part question. 1:27:22.720 --> 1:27:23.080 All right. 1:27:24.600 --> 1:27:26.639 The question is Ellmatic are ready to die? 1:27:26.760 --> 1:27:33.400 Right right? But I also want you to address this 1:27:33.600 --> 1:27:39.040 lifetime rumor that there was a rumor that Meth got 1:27:39.120 --> 1:27:41.800 on the record were big, and that you did not 1:27:42.000 --> 1:27:45.160 want that to happen. You did not want so, so 1:27:45.520 --> 1:27:48.639 first the first madic or ready to die? First, I'm 1:27:48.720 --> 1:27:55.880 going emadic. Okay, all right, we got yes, let's talk 1:27:55.960 --> 1:28:00.160 this rumor rumor. Okay, no, No, I don't want on 1:28:00.280 --> 1:28:08.000 nobody beats wasn't the beast. It was just it was 1:28:08.120 --> 1:28:09.840 just like it was our time, and it was just 1:28:10.040 --> 1:28:12.880 like I didn't want nobody else sharing that in that moment, 1:28:13.120 --> 1:28:16.120 you know what I mean. But I will super But 1:28:16.439 --> 1:28:21.559 Tracy Rapus, first of all, an os just another unsung 1:28:21.640 --> 1:28:25.160 hero of hip hop probably you know she she pitched 1:28:25.200 --> 1:28:31.160 that idea, you know what I mean? And and and yeah, 1:28:31.160 --> 1:28:33.800 I said, yes, she pitched the idea. She pitched the 1:28:33.880 --> 1:28:36.880 idea of of of Meth and Biggie doing the song together. 1:28:38.120 --> 1:28:40.360 And she was already smart, like she's she's the one 1:28:41.040 --> 1:28:45.360 that changes. Let me see what she did, bro Seriously, 1:28:45.800 --> 1:28:50.400 she came to stand alan to my apartment that had 1:28:50.439 --> 1:28:55.600 the records in the box. Okay who the album was 1:28:55.640 --> 1:29:00.800 not out? Only protect your neckers out wow okay? And 1:29:01.120 --> 1:29:06.400 I played her the demos of Method Man Dirty and 1:29:06.880 --> 1:29:08.720 I had a couple of demos that of songs. She 1:29:08.720 --> 1:29:11.439 didn't pick me from the demo they wanted, Yeah, get 1:29:11.880 --> 1:29:15.920 she wanted Meth and Dirty. They wanted both of them. 1:29:15.960 --> 1:29:16.880 For a BIGS album. 1:29:17.120 --> 1:29:19.720 No, no, listen, listen, this is to sign the Depth 1:29:19.760 --> 1:29:25.880 Jam they jam. Oh so so she so I ended 1:29:25.960 --> 1:29:28.519 up signing myth the Depth Jam through her. By the 1:29:28.640 --> 1:29:32.280 end of the day, her that that n R pen 1:29:32.439 --> 1:29:35.080 that signature, who took us to Wissell Simmons and all that, 1:29:35.560 --> 1:29:38.720 that was a big moment for us. So and her 1:29:39.439 --> 1:29:44.680 her vibe and and uh paper on the post of 1:29:44.760 --> 1:29:48.680 culture was was undeniable. And so when she said it, 1:29:49.160 --> 1:29:53.280 of course the biggie, Yeah, she said Biggie and Meth. 1:29:54.040 --> 1:29:57.000 Of course I disagreed because I was very I wanted 1:29:57.280 --> 1:30:00.240 nobody fucking with the woo was this woo? But but 1:30:01.040 --> 1:30:04.120 I trusted her. I believe they trust her and I 1:30:04.200 --> 1:30:10.439 trust her, her her whole cultural posts, and she was right. 1:30:10.920 --> 1:30:12.639 So so let me ask you, was that the first 1:30:12.680 --> 1:30:16.600 feature who did outside of wolves that like, like you 1:30:16.680 --> 1:30:19.920 know what meth was, Meth was hopping featury me was 1:30:19.960 --> 1:30:25.160 the early feature So he did because no, because Meth 1:30:25.320 --> 1:30:29.439 is that type of MC right, Meth love it. Look, 1:30:29.560 --> 1:30:33.000 he loved rappings. To this day, he's gotten better. 1:30:33.040 --> 1:30:36.840 I'm not I think he's gotten better listen, but I 1:30:36.920 --> 1:30:38.720 feel like he's he's gotten better. 1:30:38.920 --> 1:30:44.880 He was always dope, right, he's great, Right, He's he's 1:30:44.960 --> 1:30:48.639 at a level and nobody's talking about him in that degree. Nobody, 1:30:48.960 --> 1:30:50.559 nobody niggas talking about. 1:30:51.760 --> 1:30:56.560 What they didn't take those lists and like they like, 1:31:00.200 --> 1:31:04.440 it's ridiculous with his wits and his liverical ability. 1:31:04.160 --> 1:31:06.400 Right now, Yo, it's like it's almost uncanny. 1:31:06.760 --> 1:31:09.280 It's like he went backwards in terms of like being 1:31:09.439 --> 1:31:11.240 the youthful Meth again, like he's just. 1:31:11.240 --> 1:31:13.600 Gonna hold other chamber. He's free to just fuck you 1:31:13.720 --> 1:31:17.080 up on the mic. But anyway, I'm glad that they 1:31:17.120 --> 1:31:21.599 did it right, and I'm glad that I was proving 1:31:21.600 --> 1:31:22.559 along on that one. Right. 1:31:22.800 --> 1:31:26.599 Yeah, but but but I was super duper fuck that, right, 1:31:27.479 --> 1:31:28.240 I mean, I mean. 1:31:28.720 --> 1:31:32.479 In retrospect, I believe you're right, But I believe in 1:31:32.560 --> 1:31:34.679 that situation you were supposed to let it go because 1:31:34.720 --> 1:31:37.840 that did you know, by the way, when biggest actions 1:31:37.880 --> 1:31:40.200 for this feature, what level of big is he? He 1:31:40.680 --> 1:31:43.840 is he already Biggie Smalls or he's he's becoming that 1:31:43.920 --> 1:31:46.200 guy he's coming at coming. That would be the first 1:31:46.600 --> 1:31:49.320 that No. Look, he had. I mean, first of all, 1:31:49.520 --> 1:31:53.840 he had party and party, which is already it's fun. 1:31:53.880 --> 1:31:58.120 He's bubbling and ship. But this is his album right right, 1:31:58.160 --> 1:32:00.519 and this is going to be on his album. But 1:32:01.280 --> 1:32:05.320 but we're already we're the man already, you know what 1:32:05.360 --> 1:32:07.559 I mean. He's going to be the man though he's 1:32:07.560 --> 1:32:10.320 about to drop the medical megaton bombs, you know what 1:32:10.360 --> 1:32:18.600 I mean. But we don't know that, right, but we 1:32:18.840 --> 1:32:21.960 just I was just really selfish about it. Somebody told 1:32:22.000 --> 1:32:24.880 me to do that too, somebody clear, No, somebody told 1:32:24.880 --> 1:32:27.120 me to be selfish. It was Daddy or from stept 1:32:27.160 --> 1:32:30.920 to Sonic. He came to me one day, ran into him. 1:32:31.280 --> 1:32:33.479 He said, Yo, God, y'all killing it. The wood is 1:32:33.560 --> 1:32:35.559 just and this everything. Say, y'all gonna tell you something. 1:32:36.400 --> 1:32:39.880 Don't let no other producers producer mcs I said, why, 1:32:39.880 --> 1:32:48.880 I said, don't worry about that, don't do it. Don't 1:32:49.000 --> 1:32:51.680 understand mo size too. Like I'm like, I think, I'm like, 1:32:51.760 --> 1:32:54.240 you know why he might. I think he's I'm gonna. 1:32:54.000 --> 1:32:57.200 Go with his many ms and like that's too crazy. 1:32:59.880 --> 1:33:01.519 If you take a look at it. Right. 1:33:02.439 --> 1:33:06.320 Of course, over time you did keep it the beginning, 1:33:06.360 --> 1:33:07.280 you know, we did. 1:33:07.920 --> 1:33:11.400 We did. Listen who did seven platinum back to back 1:33:11.479 --> 1:33:17.320 as a producer single Wu Tang goes platinum, multiple platforms, 1:33:17.800 --> 1:33:26.479 method Man double Plat, Gray Kwan Platt, dirt Plat, a Platt, 1:33:27.640 --> 1:33:38.360 ghost Plat, then another rule multiplats, back to back, protective. 1:33:38.400 --> 1:33:41.080 It wasn't it wasn't Jesus. 1:33:42.240 --> 1:33:45.439 They come with Kappa go gold, right, he come home 1:33:45.800 --> 1:33:46.479 go gold. 1:33:46.800 --> 1:33:51.760 Then come back plat again. Not the so so keep 1:33:51.840 --> 1:33:54.760 and that was that was you know, from one leadership. 1:33:55.200 --> 1:33:58.560 So that was good. Right. So anyway, anyway, let me 1:33:58.600 --> 1:34:02.519 get off me. This is this is I say, that's 1:34:02.560 --> 1:34:04.960 that's that's, that's that's. I didn't when I looked at 1:34:05.000 --> 1:34:07.120 it one day, I said, damn son, but y'all I 1:34:07.280 --> 1:34:11.600 never left the basement. I'm serious because I want to 1:34:11.640 --> 1:34:12.080 get back to that. 1:34:12.160 --> 1:34:14.320 But before we leave this question, I want to ask 1:34:14.400 --> 1:34:15.040 one more question. 1:34:15.520 --> 1:34:17.639 Okay, you clear this record because you had to clear 1:34:17.720 --> 1:34:20.120 this right, you had to clear math right, So you 1:34:20.200 --> 1:34:24.240 clear this record. Then the very next album you guys 1:34:24.400 --> 1:34:32.400 drop it's Ghosts and Ray actually going at Biggie like, 1:34:33.960 --> 1:34:36.320 what was your mindset saying, wait a minute, did I 1:34:36.439 --> 1:34:39.719 did not make a mistake or how was you feeling? Period? 1:34:39.840 --> 1:34:39.880 No? 1:34:40.080 --> 1:34:44.960 Well, but first of all, Big is my man, right, 1:34:45.200 --> 1:34:45.680 you know what I mean? 1:34:46.200 --> 1:34:49.479 Like you knows in peace, rest and peace? You know, 1:34:50.520 --> 1:34:54.519 like like Big is my man, rest in peace? And 1:34:54.680 --> 1:34:56.200 was my man? Like he was happy for me. I 1:34:56.320 --> 1:34:58.800 was happy for him. We seen each other not on 1:35:00.000 --> 1:35:02.680 we seen each other on right. So that's how New 1:35:02.760 --> 1:35:06.519 York was back then, you know what I mean? When 1:35:06.600 --> 1:35:08.600 he got on though, every time you see me, he 1:35:08.880 --> 1:35:12.479 saw me hit me with a bottle of champagne. That's 1:35:12.520 --> 1:35:15.120 the kind of man he was, which is only a 1:35:15.240 --> 1:35:18.400 punch does that? You know what I mean? But as 1:35:18.479 --> 1:35:20.799 he becomes more and more than man and all the mcs. 1:35:20.920 --> 1:35:23.640 My crew is a crew of em seeds. We and 1:35:23.920 --> 1:35:27.800 my crew is is vicious at this time, and now 1:35:27.880 --> 1:35:30.640 he get enlightened, and so it's like Yo, du was 1:35:30.680 --> 1:35:32.479 ready to eat that, you know what I mean. That's 1:35:32.479 --> 1:35:36.559 the energy of m seeing right. That's why every time 1:35:36.600 --> 1:35:40.760 you see a nigga want pop pass a bottle, I'm like, Yo, 1:35:41.200 --> 1:35:41.960 that's he blessing me. 1:35:42.560 --> 1:35:44.360 Don't get mad because he passing me a bottle. 1:35:45.360 --> 1:35:47.800 Right, But that's not fun all that right because we 1:35:47.960 --> 1:35:50.280 was vy also at that one point, is like he'th 1:35:50.360 --> 1:35:54.760 the abbot to ourselves. It's another thing we was. We 1:35:55.000 --> 1:35:57.439 was it was it was like no, it was us 1:35:57.520 --> 1:36:00.400 and nobody and that was our energy. That was It 1:36:00.520 --> 1:36:01.880 took a long time for us to get out of 1:36:01.960 --> 1:36:04.720 that energy, you know what I mean. So you know 1:36:04.880 --> 1:36:07.040 when they said it, it's like they're gonna. I don't 1:36:07.200 --> 1:36:09.240 We can't sensor what they want, what they feel, because 1:36:09.240 --> 1:36:11.320 it had to be something because if you think about 1:36:11.360 --> 1:36:14.800 what they actually said, they was like they nigga bit 1:36:14.960 --> 1:36:17.400 non ship like this actually had nothing to do with them. 1:36:19.160 --> 1:36:22.240 If you think, but you've been another man and hip 1:36:22.240 --> 1:36:28.800 hop had one rule. Yes, it's true, still rules. Yeah, 1:36:29.520 --> 1:36:32.880 the rules still stand. It's just still standing. But you know, 1:36:33.320 --> 1:36:37.280 biting is is like it was just it was just 1:36:37.479 --> 1:36:39.760 the forbidding feud of hip hop. You know what I 1:36:39.840 --> 1:36:43.439 mean and and and when you hip hop and you 1:36:43.600 --> 1:36:46.080 kind of you know one thing about hip hop, knowing 1:36:46.200 --> 1:36:49.960 that people don't remember you couldn't just wear your cago. Kid. 1:36:51.320 --> 1:36:53.280 The dude who had the cano had more than the 1:36:53.360 --> 1:36:56.160 cago wng. But you know what I mean, he had 1:36:56.479 --> 1:36:58.560 he had a spect, you know what I mean. He 1:36:58.640 --> 1:37:01.200 was able to walk through that with that can go 1:37:01.360 --> 1:37:03.120 and get back, you know what I mean, whether they're 1:37:03.120 --> 1:37:05.320 on the ferry bus train, you know what I mean. 1:37:05.640 --> 1:37:07.640 So we we we those kids that we came from 1:37:07.720 --> 1:37:11.439 Staten Island to lie in quarters I mean Red Part, 1:37:12.120 --> 1:37:15.000 you know what I mean, Union Square. It's like we're 1:37:15.040 --> 1:37:17.200 in there, you know what I mean. And then there 1:37:17.240 --> 1:37:20.240 you can't be in there. It's not easy to be 1:37:20.439 --> 1:37:24.080 there and not be from Brooklyn, right, you know what 1:37:24.120 --> 1:37:27.599 I mean, not be from Queens, you know what I mean, 1:37:27.920 --> 1:37:30.200 if you're from Queens. It's like back in those days, 1:37:30.280 --> 1:37:33.160 the rapper, the rapper. Why do you think rappers have bodyguards? 1:37:34.520 --> 1:37:37.960 They couldn't even come in like that. So hip hop 1:37:38.080 --> 1:37:42.320 had this this this heavy culture of being strong, pier 1:37:42.760 --> 1:37:45.720 and they had a heavy culture of not biting now 1:37:47.680 --> 1:37:52.400 you know, but you know, I guess that's how the 1:37:52.439 --> 1:37:55.639 brothers felt like he bet and we and they interviewed 1:37:55.880 --> 1:37:57.800 Ray and Ghosts right here. They spoke up on it. 1:37:58.439 --> 1:38:00.479 What they say about it there was they were like 1:38:01.000 --> 1:38:03.400 that's how they felt at the time, but they regretted it, 1:38:03.439 --> 1:38:06.320 you know because they said Ghosts actually because I believe 1:38:06.360 --> 1:38:07.840 we had way con talk about it. It was the 1:38:07.840 --> 1:38:10.160 first time we had ghosts talk about and ghost was like, 1:38:10.479 --> 1:38:12.320 you know, he made peace with him, like he had 1:38:12.400 --> 1:38:13.680 got to see it. That was good, you know what 1:38:13.720 --> 1:38:17.719 I mean, Oh that's good. No, No, after the piece 1:38:17.800 --> 1:38:23.360 came before that internally, okay, right, the vine in power right, 1:38:23.439 --> 1:38:28.679 they already was like, nah, remember I produced on BIG's album? 1:38:29.120 --> 1:38:32.960 Was right? Because no, yo, they was they like they 1:38:33.400 --> 1:38:35.680 they was. They didn't appreciate it. We we we we 1:38:35.760 --> 1:38:38.720 squashed that though, because it was like like like they 1:38:38.800 --> 1:38:41.000 was like, yo, I play that cumulation all the time. 1:38:42.680 --> 1:38:45.320 So it was like, but hip hop is that. And 1:38:45.760 --> 1:38:48.240 I'm glad that because because you know, we don't talk 1:38:48.280 --> 1:38:50.200 about ship because uses just to keep moving. But I'm 1:38:50.200 --> 1:38:53.040 glad that Ghosts had a chance. So if he deemed 1:38:53.040 --> 1:38:56.840 that with him, Big was a special, special special dude. 1:38:56.880 --> 1:38:59.160 We all know that, but some of us didn't get 1:38:59.160 --> 1:39:02.600 a chance to shake his hand, laugh with him, you 1:39:02.680 --> 1:39:04.400 know what I mean, be up in the studio with him, 1:39:04.760 --> 1:39:06.599 and none of that. So they don't so they wouldn't 1:39:06.640 --> 1:39:09.519 know what they don't know. He he was like a 1:39:09.640 --> 1:39:11.439 prince like you know what I mean, like a like 1:39:11.720 --> 1:39:13.760 like a very rare you know what I mean. Then 1:39:13.800 --> 1:39:16.560 when they when you go, like you said, illmatic and 1:39:16.760 --> 1:39:22.000 ready to die, I'm saying for me, lyrically illmatic. It's 1:39:22.080 --> 1:39:26.200 the masterpiece of lyrical talent. But of course ready to 1:39:26.320 --> 1:39:28.160 Die gave us some of the best songs that pop 1:39:28.240 --> 1:39:31.160 ever's going to get, right, bring us back. 1:39:31.040 --> 1:39:32.439 To that skit era you was talking about. 1:39:32.520 --> 1:39:36.439 Yeah, well, Prince Paul. So anyway, ys move on, look 1:39:36.479 --> 1:39:39.639 at let's go. How am I doing over here? Mama? Yeah, 1:39:40.720 --> 1:39:46.320 stap your feet through times like zone out to pieces 1:39:49.160 --> 1:39:54.880 or Brooklyn and which way the way you are saying 1:39:54.920 --> 1:40:00.120 both because both dank right. I was just trying get 1:40:00.160 --> 1:40:00.880 you to drink, that's all. 1:40:01.920 --> 1:40:03.760 You know what. 1:40:04.320 --> 1:40:08.559 Let me just tell you something. We're here to celebrate 1:40:08.640 --> 1:40:09.120 you tonight. 1:40:09.200 --> 1:40:09.400 Brother. 1:40:09.800 --> 1:40:11.559 I know you're a humble brother, but Lipsen, we're here 1:40:11.640 --> 1:40:15.200 to celebrate you. You are arguably one of the smartest 1:40:15.240 --> 1:40:17.439 people in hip hop, one of the people who invented 1:40:17.479 --> 1:40:20.680 the lane that has never been duplicated and will never 1:40:20.760 --> 1:40:23.200 be duplicated. And I want you to know how much 1:40:23.280 --> 1:40:26.360 we appreciate you here. So we're gonna all night. We 1:40:26.479 --> 1:40:40.160 are here, we are residents. I mean, look, his eyes 1:40:40.280 --> 1:40:43.439 is getting shy, so he don't remember this. You do 1:40:43.560 --> 1:40:45.880 remember this? You don't remember when we was in France. Yes, 1:40:46.200 --> 1:40:51.280 you had that, I had what happened to it? Yeah? 1:40:52.240 --> 1:40:55.680 We're gonna y'all? Yes, And that night I told you. 1:40:56.040 --> 1:40:57.840 Yes, I did you I kind of I kind of 1:40:58.280 --> 1:41:03.080 you tilted that you didn't gonna You know what, Let 1:41:03.120 --> 1:41:05.760 me be honest with you. It doesn't taste like like 1:41:06.120 --> 1:41:06.960 it creeps up one. 1:41:07.080 --> 1:41:11.600 It don't take it was dangerous. Are you drinking with 1:41:11.640 --> 1:41:12.040 the support? 1:41:12.120 --> 1:41:12.599 With the support? 1:41:12.640 --> 1:41:14.800 Which I think I like that. I like that's a 1:41:14.920 --> 1:41:17.200 that's a that's a nice bearing. I mean, well, Japanese 1:41:17.240 --> 1:41:19.120 being and sake they just go great together. 1:41:19.240 --> 1:41:22.240 Yes, themature, but you got another bottle of that's the last? Yes, No, 1:41:22.280 --> 1:41:29.240 we got one more good good. The temperature is getting right, okay, 1:41:29.280 --> 1:41:34.439 okay to feel good, so I'm gonna move on. Okay, 1:41:34.600 --> 1:41:36.559 you said both right, yep, all right, cool, I'm gonna 1:41:36.600 --> 1:41:39.720 keep it going. He went to the bath. Okay, you 1:41:39.800 --> 1:41:41.760 said something about hold on hot sake. You said you 1:41:41.840 --> 1:41:43.760 only drank hot sock No. I used to only drink 1:41:43.840 --> 1:41:46.280 hot socky because I thought it with cold beer. I 1:41:46.360 --> 1:41:49.680 thought that goes together. Wow, I don't know. Well, hot 1:41:49.720 --> 1:41:53.600 sake is usually bad socky. So so you make it 1:41:53.720 --> 1:41:56.519 hot just to kind of like to get rid of it. 1:41:56.680 --> 1:41:58.680 You would never heat does something? This is you know 1:41:58.720 --> 1:42:02.240 what's crazy. I've never drank hot saki wolf Japanese people. 1:42:02.320 --> 1:42:04.840 Only drink it with my white friends. Okay, so is 1:42:04.880 --> 1:42:07.720 that bad? It's no, no, no, no, no that man, 1:42:07.800 --> 1:42:11.679 you've been no no, no no. Hot saki is usually 1:42:11.720 --> 1:42:14.680 going to be a lower grade. Right. So this is 1:42:14.760 --> 1:42:16.640 here right here, and you'll see right this is a 1:42:17.439 --> 1:42:21.240 jumai okay, right, So the jumai is a special way 1:42:21.240 --> 1:42:23.920 they make it. So so that's like a gave like 1:42:24.000 --> 1:42:26.600 in tequila. Like there's different thing. Yeah, exactly, it's like 1:42:26.640 --> 1:42:30.680 a Nate hole okay, okay, and blanc hole. 1:42:30.800 --> 1:42:30.920 Right. 1:42:31.280 --> 1:42:34.320 So even know this is not stuffed in the barrel. Okay, 1:42:34.400 --> 1:42:36.519 The point being made is that you will never heat 1:42:36.600 --> 1:42:38.600 this up, okay, you know, I mean that would be 1:42:38.720 --> 1:42:42.439 like destroying if you have some saki, like you know, 1:42:42.960 --> 1:42:45.599 some fot out of saki okay and you just kind 1:42:45.600 --> 1:42:47.240 of going to the hibachi spot and they. 1:42:47.200 --> 1:43:02.800 Be like, yeah, yeah, you know, I ain't gonna lie. 1:43:03.040 --> 1:43:03.640 I swear to go. 1:43:04.240 --> 1:43:06.679 I thought I knew every drink etiquette in the world. 1:43:07.160 --> 1:43:11.240 Just fucked me up just now, because that's what who 1:43:11.280 --> 1:43:14.240 I spoke to today, Diego. I used to always drink 1:43:14.280 --> 1:43:16.200 hot sock, right, so I didn't know. I didn't know 1:43:16.280 --> 1:43:17.000 that that's that's the. 1:43:17.080 --> 1:43:19.720 Cheap ship because if you ask them to heat this up, 1:43:19.720 --> 1:43:20.559 they ain't gonna heat. 1:43:20.400 --> 1:43:22.000 It up for you. They're gonna be like no, no, no, no, 1:43:22.200 --> 1:43:25.240 I mean yeah, are They're gonna charge you price of 1:43:25.360 --> 1:43:27.840 what they costs heat it up, and you're gonna lose 1:43:27.880 --> 1:43:31.080 what you paid for. Right, Because I used to drink 1:43:31.320 --> 1:43:36.920 Japanese whiskey, right and jamming Yamazaki eighteen, ordered Yamazaki eighteen, 1:43:37.160 --> 1:43:38.840 and you order it with the ice, they won't give 1:43:38.880 --> 1:43:41.040 it to you, right, They were like no, right, Like 1:43:41.120 --> 1:43:43.320 you go to wiki with ice, right, You're not that, 1:43:44.280 --> 1:43:47.559 You're not that, not that. So maybe you put one 1:43:47.640 --> 1:43:50.519 drop of water in it though, just so some some people, 1:43:50.680 --> 1:43:53.400 the ice is only to open up, the open up, 1:43:53.439 --> 1:43:56.320 the open up the flavor of it, right, whiskey. Yeah, 1:43:57.080 --> 1:43:58.560 but most of you ever you ever went to a 1:43:58.600 --> 1:44:02.679 whiskey convention? No, yo, dude, anybody want to a tasting 1:44:02.760 --> 1:44:05.840 where they taught us that everybody at the convention they 1:44:05.920 --> 1:44:08.439 have an eye dropper, okay, and they go they just 1:44:08.479 --> 1:44:11.240 put one drop of water first and then because it 1:44:11.360 --> 1:44:14.600 opens it up. Remember this nake has been distilled and 1:44:14.680 --> 1:44:17.120 it's inside of a bow. So a little bit of 1:44:17.240 --> 1:44:20.640 hydrogen oxygen looses those atoms up, you know what I mean. 1:44:21.160 --> 1:44:23.320 So that's why you get the big solid rock that 1:44:23.400 --> 1:44:23.960 don't melt. 1:44:24.080 --> 1:44:24.599 That's the reason. 1:44:25.080 --> 1:44:28.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, all right, could the drink 1:44:29.439 --> 1:44:32.439 just good? All right? I do a curve w after 1:44:33.040 --> 1:44:34.400 after what Ready to die? 1:44:35.600 --> 1:44:35.760 Man? 1:44:35.960 --> 1:44:36.280 All right? 1:44:36.560 --> 1:44:44.040 Buck Wilder diamond D in which way, we don't know 1:44:44.200 --> 1:44:44.640 what you are. 1:44:44.800 --> 1:44:47.519 So I don't know those brothers right personally, I spect them, 1:44:47.560 --> 1:44:50.160 but I can't say I know them, man. But I 1:44:50.200 --> 1:44:54.320 would say that diamond D once again just offers so 1:44:54.439 --> 1:44:58.240 much to the culture. He he he bought in another 1:44:58.439 --> 1:45:01.960 chamber that that was that was needed, you know, I mean, 1:45:02.000 --> 1:45:04.120 are they both in the the I T I believe 1:45:05.280 --> 1:45:08.479 both the I T C. But it's like and and 1:45:08.680 --> 1:45:11.880 and it's just the when Diamond had like he's like 1:45:11.960 --> 1:45:14.520 the gristle on the chicken. 1:45:14.600 --> 1:45:17.560 Another rapper producer had, the ROMs. 1:45:17.280 --> 1:45:20.559 Had the flow. It's like, it's like, what's the other dudes, 1:45:20.920 --> 1:45:22.559 we don't talk about enough. We don't talk about foul 1:45:22.600 --> 1:45:35.400 monk or not nose piece we go up, yeah, we 1:45:35.520 --> 1:45:39.160 go piece, We wait and but yeah, so I'm gonna 1:45:39.160 --> 1:45:42.120 go diamond d on that and let them fight that out. Okay, 1:45:44.280 --> 1:45:47.559 wrapping up that just just in just in the chambers, 1:45:47.880 --> 1:45:50.800 like like like the full the full package. Would you 1:45:50.880 --> 1:45:53.920 like better wrapper or produce it me? Yeah? Yeah, oh 1:45:54.520 --> 1:45:57.200 what you mean? I mean? 1:45:57.240 --> 1:46:07.200 This is this is question that's both both. I'm not bullshing. 1:46:07.240 --> 1:46:10.720 This gets better as you go. Way you stand up, 1:46:11.000 --> 1:46:14.479 and they don't try to take a beat, you know 1:46:14.600 --> 1:46:18.280 what I'm saying. Once you stand up, I know it's 1:46:18.280 --> 1:46:18.880 a different life. 1:46:21.760 --> 1:46:25.920 You check this out, right, So a lot of people 1:46:26.000 --> 1:46:28.000 know me for my beats, and a lot of the 1:46:28.200 --> 1:46:31.360 look a lot of the industry, you know, it was 1:46:31.479 --> 1:46:33.519 it was inspired by my beats. You a ready, right, 1:46:33.560 --> 1:46:35.920 and all phrases do that. Im able to add inspiration 1:46:36.040 --> 1:46:41.400 to anything. But they overlooked me as an MC. You 1:46:41.479 --> 1:46:45.200 know what I mean. But and it's my lyrics. If 1:46:45.240 --> 1:46:48.040 they were to pay more attention to my lyrics, the 1:46:48.160 --> 1:46:50.680 kids would be better, But the kids wouldn't be on 1:46:50.760 --> 1:46:54.040 the route there on. I don't write for myself, yo. 1:46:55.040 --> 1:47:00.760 I write scriptures so that you could hear the chill 1:47:00.840 --> 1:47:03.320 with the feedback. We don't need that, right, ten o'clock, 1:47:03.680 --> 1:47:07.280 where's your see that right? See that right? Because women 1:47:07.640 --> 1:47:10.599 run around chasing shit? But where's your kids at? Baby 1:47:11.080 --> 1:47:13.320 feeling Matt Hostel wearing at all postile? That was a 1:47:13.400 --> 1:47:15.920 style back then, flowing like Christ. When I speak to God, 1:47:16.000 --> 1:47:19.479 I'm bringing gospel, bro, you know what I mean. So 1:47:19.640 --> 1:47:25.960 it's like my mission was to instill inspiration like I 1:47:26.040 --> 1:47:28.479 wanted to be. I'm lyrically, I'm serious. So you go 1:47:28.560 --> 1:47:32.559 back and listen to my lyrics, bro, and take time. 1:47:32.680 --> 1:47:35.760 Fusion of the five elements to search for the higher intelligence. 1:47:36.560 --> 1:47:39.439 Women walk around cellar and live in irrelevant the most 1:47:39.479 --> 1:47:44.200 benelevant king communicate through your dreams. Mental pictures have been painted, 1:47:44.479 --> 1:47:47.519 but the law is heard, is scene everywhere, and you're 1:47:47.560 --> 1:47:53.000 surrounding the atmosphere, thermisphere, stratusphere, trappisphere. Can you imagine from 1:47:53.160 --> 1:47:58.400 one single idea everything appeared here? So understanding will make 1:47:58.439 --> 1:48:04.040 the truth crystal clear. We got innocent black immigrants locked 1:48:04.080 --> 1:48:09.680 in housing tenements eighty five dependent where phair recipients. My 1:48:09.800 --> 1:48:14.360 neighborhood has been stamped like a concentration camp. For at nighttime, 1:48:14.400 --> 1:48:16.640 I would walk through my throat. I was bright as 1:48:16.680 --> 1:48:23.800 a street lamp. Electric proles right, electric proves, robotic strolls, 1:48:24.080 --> 1:48:27.960 taking telescopic pictures of the globe. Babies being born now 1:48:28.040 --> 1:48:33.880 with Michael Chip stuff inside their earlobes, examinated vaccinated lies, 1:48:33.960 --> 1:48:38.360 fabricated food, and drug administration testing poison in prison population. 1:48:39.880 --> 1:48:43.360 My occupation is to stop the inauguration of Satan. They 1:48:43.439 --> 1:48:46.880 thought it was Ronald Reagan. That's why I come to 1:48:47.000 --> 1:48:49.960 slave men like Bartholomeo, because every particle of some physical 1:48:50.080 --> 1:48:54.479 articles is diabolicals down to the last molecule. But anyway, 1:49:01.040 --> 1:49:05.479 but anyway, it's like I was doing that because shot that. 1:49:09.439 --> 1:49:10.200 You do the work. 1:49:13.720 --> 1:49:16.400 Anyway, you said, producing m C And yes, that's why 1:49:16.439 --> 1:49:21.360 I said both. I love the way, yeah, okay, by nature? 1:49:22.280 --> 1:49:26.920 Which way you're that's going to probably be now And 1:49:26.960 --> 1:49:29.200 I'm getting clown im drinking and keep saying which way, 1:49:29.400 --> 1:49:32.680 but I can't help but say which way good? No problems, 1:49:32.840 --> 1:49:33.479 is my man? Man? 1:49:33.960 --> 1:49:36.200 I think it's under I don't say underrated, but I 1:49:36.280 --> 1:49:38.080 think he deserves to be higher. 1:49:38.160 --> 1:49:40.080 And everybody's top list of them CS. 1:49:40.560 --> 1:49:43.519 Like Sticky as well. Yeah, yes as well. Yes, they 1:49:43.720 --> 1:49:49.280 both inspired culture flows and identity for a lot of rapplets. 1:49:49.800 --> 1:49:53.760 A lot of their stuff is embedded in a lot 1:49:53.800 --> 1:49:57.719 of em c's like it's like it's their sheet cold 1:49:58.040 --> 1:49:59.880 that they won't admit, right, you know what I mean? 1:50:00.760 --> 1:50:04.120 But for me, think you Treaches is both a special 1:50:04.439 --> 1:50:07.479 because I would say both okay, and I'll tell you why. 1:50:09.200 --> 1:50:10.160 You think that show. 1:50:12.640 --> 1:50:15.400 Wait till you get up both they both like New 1:50:15.439 --> 1:50:17.800 York is such a special place and shout out New 1:50:17.880 --> 1:50:22.320 Jersey as well, and Philadelphia and Long but New York 1:50:22.439 --> 1:50:25.360 long asters that's us were together. Somebody trying to say 1:50:25.360 --> 1:50:28.760 Buffalo wasn't New York. Buffalo is New York, New York. 1:50:28.840 --> 1:50:32.760 You're not going for that, veron all, that's New York, bro. 1:50:33.320 --> 1:50:38.439 But for Trench and and any and them, Mamud Tommy boy. 1:50:38.560 --> 1:50:40.439 That's right. I was tom Boy too, and we wasn't 1:50:40.520 --> 1:50:43.920 nobody made it yet, so they sending us out together 1:50:44.840 --> 1:50:49.439 to the radio with which came in at my name. 1:50:49.680 --> 1:50:52.680 That's right, Okay, like this they make it though. 1:50:56.560 --> 1:50:58.680 I remember going to see him after Apollo, after they 1:50:58.760 --> 1:51:00.320 made it, and I ain't seen him like my five 1:51:00.360 --> 1:51:02.600 six months. You know, I'm still trying this ship. But 1:51:02.680 --> 1:51:04.960 you know it's my mass you know, they oh shit, 1:51:05.080 --> 1:51:07.840 let me, he's my brother. Trech is like that type 1:51:07.880 --> 1:51:10.400 of guy. He's a special guy. He's just he's one 1:51:10.439 --> 1:51:16.479 of the once again another special entity. But but I 1:51:16.600 --> 1:51:19.880 seen them. He came off stage sweat, he took his 1:51:19.920 --> 1:51:23.479 shirt up, muscles everything, It's like bunk bunk ship And 1:51:23.560 --> 1:51:28.800 I was like, oh ship, my my dude. We were 1:51:28.800 --> 1:51:31.560 still a limo together like this falling out, like just 1:51:31.640 --> 1:51:36.439 going to the radio, just doing freestyles, hoping, and now 1:51:36.479 --> 1:51:40.920 he he was platinum. Yo, bitch is going crazy. You 1:51:41.000 --> 1:51:43.120 know my song is about business. They're not going crazy, 1:51:45.120 --> 1:51:47.680 you know what I'm saying. But but but still the 1:51:47.760 --> 1:51:50.280 brotherhood was like that, you know what I mean? And 1:51:50.320 --> 1:51:52.920 when WU were opened our first store, this that and 1:51:52.920 --> 1:51:56.920 the other. Right, yeah, okay, he came through basically basically 1:51:56.920 --> 1:51:59.240 almost bought it out. Wow, you know what I mean, 1:51:59.280 --> 1:52:01.240 that's how much. But then you go about the Sticky, 1:52:01.760 --> 1:52:05.280 it's like Sticky and Onyx and fucking Frasro. That's my 1:52:05.439 --> 1:52:08.120 those are my party homies. Were the dudes in the 1:52:08.200 --> 1:52:12.000 party before nobody's on. We're the real dudes in the party, 1:52:12.560 --> 1:52:15.160 you know what I mean. It's like whatever, you know 1:52:15.200 --> 1:52:17.519 what I mean, if it's a vic, if it's something 1:52:17.600 --> 1:52:23.439 going down, we were the real meat, dirty, sticky me Frasro. 1:52:23.960 --> 1:52:26.439 If you if you was in the party, in the 1:52:26.479 --> 1:52:30.840 street party, those are the real motherfuckers. That how they 1:52:30.880 --> 1:52:35.400 got in, we don't know. Is it dangerous now in 1:52:35.439 --> 1:52:37.479 this party a little more dangerous, yes, you know what 1:52:37.520 --> 1:52:39.840 I mean. So sticky in them all they was like 1:52:40.000 --> 1:52:41.920 when they got on too, it was like I was like, 1:52:42.000 --> 1:52:44.800 oh shit, all the real niggas is getting on now, 1:52:44.880 --> 1:52:48.560 like some of the real people that wasn't just like 1:52:48.880 --> 1:52:52.920 uh just kind of like the streets was getting in. 1:52:53.439 --> 1:52:55.920 Specs as an example of the streets getting in. Sticky 1:52:56.000 --> 1:52:57.720 is an example of the streets getting and who is 1:52:57.760 --> 1:53:05.200 the entire community straight up? Though? Anyway, love what you got. 1:53:07.200 --> 1:53:12.040 Karas one on rock him in your way, I say, 1:53:12.080 --> 1:53:12.479 which way? 1:53:13.800 --> 1:53:21.960 Wow, Jamie, Look, that's that's that's even though it sounds hard, right, 1:53:23.680 --> 1:53:28.679 rock him, Okay, right, they both gave us so much, 1:53:29.760 --> 1:53:30.280 you know what I mean. 1:53:31.280 --> 1:53:35.400 And caras One, you know his type of dude. 1:53:36.280 --> 1:53:39.479 Nobody ever wanted to get on after caras won. You 1:53:39.560 --> 1:53:44.280 never did a show. He's with caras One. You better 1:53:44.360 --> 1:53:46.960 go first. And he gave a speech in between and 1:53:47.040 --> 1:53:50.360 ship and everyone shuts up and listens. Yo, he did 1:53:50.439 --> 1:53:54.599 one show. Yo. He dropped back to back bangers. I'm 1:53:54.600 --> 1:53:59.600 talking about ten, twelve, thirteen, back to back bangers and 1:53:59.680 --> 1:54:04.559 then like, okay, that was the mic check didn't wait 1:54:04.600 --> 1:54:09.240 into the ship. That's something. There's how many bangers he got, right, 1:54:09.280 --> 1:54:14.479 because he made albums that was full of bangs listen til. 1:54:16.520 --> 1:54:16.680 Right. 1:54:17.320 --> 1:54:21.200 So in that capacity you're gonna not find really not 1:54:21.439 --> 1:54:24.240 nobody that could do that. But when you when you 1:54:24.320 --> 1:54:27.599 mentioned it to me, my mom went to the argument 1:54:27.720 --> 1:54:31.240 of those mcs who was the best and what rock 1:54:31.320 --> 1:54:33.800 Kilm wrote in his two albums. 1:54:34.560 --> 1:54:37.920 You know what I mean, and that didn't curse exactly 1:54:38.000 --> 1:54:39.280 for most part. 1:54:39.160 --> 1:54:42.920 Of the most part what he wrote, bro, no MC 1:54:43.080 --> 1:54:46.520 of that generation compete compared to that. You know what 1:54:46.520 --> 1:54:48.680 I'm saying. They could try and argue it if you want. 1:54:49.400 --> 1:54:51.360 But if you go, what did you say when the 1:54:51.440 --> 1:54:53.800 Earth gets further and further? He said? Follow me? Right, 1:54:54.080 --> 1:54:57.400 so you thought you was first, Well, let's travel at 1:54:57.440 --> 1:55:01.040 a magnificent speed around the universe. You thought you was first, 1:55:01.040 --> 1:55:03.640 will follow me, and let's travel at a magnificent speed 1:55:03.720 --> 1:55:06.440 around the universe. And what would you say when the 1:55:06.520 --> 1:55:09.760 Earth gets further and further away, and the planet seems 1:55:09.760 --> 1:55:12.840 small like balls of clay, and you straight into the 1:55:13.080 --> 1:55:16.600 milky way, wells out of sight as far as your 1:55:16.680 --> 1:55:20.240 eye can see, not even a saddle lighte. But then 1:55:20.320 --> 1:55:24.120 suddenly you see a star. You better follow it because 1:55:24.160 --> 1:55:34.400 it's the all from the to triple darkness, and then 1:55:34.480 --> 1:55:39.360 appeared for you. So his lyrical content and abilities were 1:55:40.480 --> 1:55:43.160 just now incredible. So even caras One gave us a 1:55:43.160 --> 1:55:46.000 lot of things, you know, like what's beef right? Or 1:55:46.080 --> 1:55:49.440 even when he talked about you know, your diet. The 1:55:49.560 --> 1:55:53.600 teacher Jimmy my philosophy is Jimmy great great great, But 1:55:53.680 --> 1:55:57.720 I'm just saying the concentration she what makes her dope. 1:55:57.760 --> 1:56:00.240 Em See, this is the way you could could taking 1:56:00.280 --> 1:56:04.160 the throat in the garbage. Some mcs are a container 1:56:04.240 --> 1:56:07.600 of juice. You ever get that good apple juice, like 1:56:07.720 --> 1:56:14.520 that whole fucking Martelli's apple juice. That ship is good, good, 1:56:17.320 --> 1:56:22.879 it is good. But some MC's it's the concentrated apple juice. 1:56:23.640 --> 1:56:27.880 You gotta add water to this, nigga, my chemist, dad, 1:56:28.320 --> 1:56:33.160 you gotta add water, all right, Okay, I be asking that. Okay, 1:56:33.960 --> 1:56:37.320 now this one I already because I bet, I bet 1:56:37.360 --> 1:56:39.440 you will be on time. And I lost that bet. 1:56:39.560 --> 1:56:41.760 But I bet on this this question too. Hold on, 1:56:42.840 --> 1:56:45.280 that's a good guy. But no, I bet on you. 1:56:45.960 --> 1:56:46.800 I was on time. 1:56:46.960 --> 1:56:49.080 We thought as much as we were talking, you were definitely. 1:56:50.320 --> 1:56:52.640 We were here two hours early just to make sure 1:56:52.880 --> 1:56:54.520 because we knew he was gonna be on time. 1:56:54.600 --> 1:56:57.800 I bet on you. We do this with every artist 1:56:57.920 --> 1:57:01.720 like we bet right, and I got to afford thirty 1:57:01.880 --> 1:57:02.240 sucked up. 1:57:05.120 --> 1:57:07.240 We only say because we told everybody he's gonna be 1:57:07.320 --> 1:57:07.720 on time. 1:57:09.360 --> 1:57:11.840 But but but hold on, but I'm not. I'm not 1:57:11.880 --> 1:57:18.240 gonna lead the witness. Analog or digital bought me digital 1:57:18.360 --> 1:57:21.200 that well, if you'd have asked me a few years ago, 1:57:21.200 --> 1:57:23.400 I would have I would have chose this time I 1:57:23.440 --> 1:57:32.320 got to say both, I love again. I thought you, 1:57:33.240 --> 1:57:35.000 I know, if you had some years ago reason why 1:57:35.000 --> 1:57:37.400 I would have said digital a few years But first 1:57:37.400 --> 1:57:40.400 of all, digital is where we're at. But you can 1:57:40.440 --> 1:57:43.000 still use this. There's things that you can still use analog. 1:57:45.000 --> 1:57:46.680 Let me tell you about while I saying analog, bro, 1:57:47.160 --> 1:57:48.600 because now we're in the AI world. 1:57:49.320 --> 1:57:50.440 It's a whole different world now. 1:57:50.680 --> 1:57:53.040 So now that we're in the AI world, you're gonna 1:57:53.200 --> 1:57:57.040 wish somebody just played the guitar for you. You're gonna 1:57:57.080 --> 1:57:59.640 wish at the resonance of that. You wanna want to 1:57:59.680 --> 1:58:05.080 wish that the that real physical sound is real. Watch 1:58:05.120 --> 1:58:08.600 when you get a porter, a porter shorty. When the 1:58:08.680 --> 1:58:11.720 Porter Shorty is the robot. Yeah, Watch when you get 1:58:11.720 --> 1:58:15.120 a porter shorty short Yeah. I hope, we hope. We 1:58:15.160 --> 1:58:21.040 don't need them. We got wives for some dudes. People 1:58:21.080 --> 1:58:25.360 gonna get Porter Shorty. It's gonna, it's gonna it's gonna 1:58:27.960 --> 1:58:33.120 lyric about it. The Porter. Yeah, the Porter, the Porter Shorty. 1:58:34.080 --> 1:58:36.200 Right when you do it, she's gonna click her eyes 1:58:36.240 --> 1:58:38.760 and record it for you and then hit it and 1:58:38.800 --> 1:58:43.160 then she's gonna play it back. I don't even know 1:58:43.280 --> 1:58:50.240 what the I don't know. That's the play. When you 1:58:50.280 --> 1:58:53.120 got your robot shorty recording you. She's gonna film that 1:58:53.200 --> 1:58:55.240 you're doing. She's gonna be filming you as you're doing it. 1:58:55.520 --> 1:58:58.800 But you want her to film, You want her to listen. 1:58:58.880 --> 1:59:02.360 Bro's having it on his own. He gotta take his data. 1:59:02.880 --> 1:59:03.640 It needs data. 1:59:05.080 --> 1:59:08.919 I see just a sign note. I've seen this billionaire 1:59:09.000 --> 1:59:10.960 on It was something I saw online. But he said, 1:59:11.960 --> 1:59:14.960 you know, the future of investing. He wants to invest 1:59:15.080 --> 1:59:18.839 in sports because AI is going to take over everything, 1:59:18.880 --> 1:59:21.760 and everything's gonna be so digital that the physical people 1:59:21.800 --> 1:59:25.400 that actually do sports is gonna be a commodity running man. 1:59:26.200 --> 1:59:26.400 Yeah. 1:59:26.800 --> 1:59:28.760 Yeah, So he's investing all his money. This is a 1:59:28.800 --> 1:59:31.840 guy that invested in tech supposedly, now he's gonna invest 1:59:31.920 --> 1:59:35.720 in sports. He's going analogue. He's going analog. 1:59:35.800 --> 1:59:36.600 Yeah, that's what he's doing. 1:59:37.360 --> 1:59:41.080 So he said, both okay, okay, I like, hold on, 1:59:41.400 --> 1:59:42.200 I got interrupt you. 1:59:43.600 --> 1:59:46.240 I like that listen. You know, is he taking all 1:59:46.280 --> 1:59:50.240 these shots? You hitting these dudes going back to back 1:59:50.320 --> 1:59:52.600 on the Bone Show? Yeah, okay, okay, oh no, this 1:59:52.720 --> 1:59:54.960 is all no, no, no, no, it's a good thing. 1:59:56.440 --> 2:00:00.480 I'm a little I'm press he got the low let 2:00:00.520 --> 2:00:08.440 me see that. Yes, yeah, I'm smoking later, Yeah, okay 2:00:20.600 --> 2:00:24.360 for yoll how much time? You know we kind of 2:00:24.400 --> 2:00:27.800 the hour, right, Yeah, I'm happy. Listen. Let me just 2:00:27.880 --> 2:00:29.280 want to make it all the way through. Yes, yes, 2:00:29.360 --> 2:00:31.480 let me just tell you something. Bro, I'm gonna be honest. 2:00:31.560 --> 2:00:34.160 If we've done it's part of the show. Yes, but listen, 2:00:34.240 --> 2:00:37.720 but let me just tell you something. And you know, 2:00:39.520 --> 2:00:42.160 we've had other people on this show, we had other legends, 2:00:42.240 --> 2:00:44.480 but we have never had the abbot on this show. 2:00:44.760 --> 2:00:47.480 And you know what, I am so happy, I'm so 2:00:47.960 --> 2:00:54.240 honored and we he asked me if. 2:00:55.640 --> 2:00:57.240 But what I'm trying to say is, man, this is 2:00:57.320 --> 2:00:57.960 this is a blessing. 2:00:58.080 --> 2:01:00.240 Man. So in case I ain't saying earlier or we 2:01:00.320 --> 2:01:02.120 didn't say it earlier, I just want to say to 2:01:02.200 --> 2:01:04.200 you and your beautiful wife, thank you. Man. You know 2:01:04.240 --> 2:01:06.720 what I'm saying because I know I know you ain't 2:01:07.160 --> 2:01:09.240 you know, you know at the end of the day, 2:01:09.360 --> 2:01:11.840 like you know, I you know, I live this life, 2:01:11.840 --> 2:01:14.800 so I understand, like and our culture, what we were 2:01:14.840 --> 2:01:16.720 trying to do is, you know, so many people say 2:01:16.760 --> 2:01:18.440 that if you have ten years in this game, like 2:01:18.560 --> 2:01:20.600 you washed up and so many other and so many 2:01:20.680 --> 2:01:23.760 other coaches. I've never even heard that word be spoke 2:01:23.840 --> 2:01:25.840 of washed up or your time is up? 2:01:26.040 --> 2:01:26.960 Like what the fuck is that? 2:01:27.120 --> 2:01:27.600 Does that mean? 2:01:27.720 --> 2:01:30.720 Other than boxing and sports and like that? But what 2:01:30.880 --> 2:01:31.920 other genre of music? 2:01:32.040 --> 2:01:34.520 These motherfuckers Martley Crewe and them niggas, they tore fucking 2:01:34.560 --> 2:01:38.760 them niggas nine hundred, Like I just saw the Grateful 2:01:38.880 --> 2:01:43.040 Dad in Vegas two weeks ago. I don't even know 2:01:43.040 --> 2:01:45.960 those people are still lying. I love them. I think, Bob, 2:01:46.000 --> 2:01:49.240 Where's eighty two? And they're still killing it, killing it, 2:01:49.360 --> 2:01:51.920 beautiful show. So why they can't hip hop? Why why 2:01:52.000 --> 2:01:53.880 we can't grow with that? Why we can't? And you 2:01:53.960 --> 2:01:56.520 know what's crazy about I'm sorry to make it all 2:01:56.600 --> 2:01:57.880 make sense, but let me make it, make it, make 2:01:57.880 --> 2:01:59.920 it all make sense. That was then illest thing about 2:02:00.280 --> 2:02:03.120 You're watching you and nas, you guys and knaves in 2:02:03.240 --> 2:02:05.600 Paris together was I was looking. I was like, look 2:02:05.640 --> 2:02:07.920 at the audience and the shit was packed, it was 2:02:08.000 --> 2:02:11.400 sold out. But I'm looking, and there was some there 2:02:11.480 --> 2:02:13.560 was there was a lot of youngins in there that 2:02:13.680 --> 2:02:17.480 you thought were with their parents. But then I was paused. 2:02:17.520 --> 2:02:20.640 I was watching their mouths and they knew the words, 2:02:21.040 --> 2:02:24.200 and I'm like, oh no, their parents. 2:02:26.080 --> 2:02:27.560 I rememberated like, you. 2:02:27.600 --> 2:02:30.040 Know, at first, at first sight you're looking You're like, 2:02:30.160 --> 2:02:32.240 all right, cool, but then you look at you like, 2:02:32.280 --> 2:02:35.839 wait a minute. These are good parents. These are parents 2:02:35.960 --> 2:02:39.160 who who let their kids listen to the right music. 2:02:39.560 --> 2:02:43.200 And the kids were actually it's like Bob Marley. It 2:02:43.360 --> 2:02:45.720 just it's so beautiful. It's so beautiful. So it's know, 2:02:45.760 --> 2:02:48.440 it's so crazy. One thing I did see and hip 2:02:48.480 --> 2:02:51.840 hop is a beautiful thing. I was in Australia and 2:02:52.480 --> 2:02:54.720 the day in Australia that bugged me out is that 2:02:55.160 --> 2:03:02.120 the audience was actually forty percent or young. Wow. Yeah, 2:03:02.520 --> 2:03:04.680 I'm talking about like it was weird a little bit too. 2:03:04.960 --> 2:03:08.680 I had to I had to like lecture them. I 2:03:08.760 --> 2:03:11.320 got back to the hotel. It was like twenty eighteen 2:03:11.360 --> 2:03:14.440 year old as a hold on seal, girls listen due 2:03:14.480 --> 2:03:18.400 this we did not this is but it's not a 2:03:18.520 --> 2:03:23.240 boy band, it's he's a grown man. You guys, go home, 2:03:23.440 --> 2:03:26.400 this is weird, take a picture and go home. I 2:03:26.880 --> 2:03:28.720 how to tell people, get them home. I had to 2:03:28.760 --> 2:03:31.960 get girls out of vans right. But but the point 2:03:31.960 --> 2:03:35.720 I'm making is that the attraction of our culture. The 2:03:35.800 --> 2:03:38.800 attraction of the music is timeless, and that's what it's 2:03:38.800 --> 2:03:41.400 supposed to be. That's beautiful. It's beautiful. And what we 2:03:41.560 --> 2:03:45.040 got to do and hopefully if we can right is 2:03:47.520 --> 2:03:52.000 not be shy or brave enough to circulate back around 2:03:52.080 --> 2:03:54.680 the globe and touch the people. Because the thing that 2:03:54.920 --> 2:03:59.320 happened is it ain't It won't be because the guys 2:03:59.360 --> 2:04:03.200 said ten year a wash up. The guy who accepts 2:04:03.280 --> 2:04:08.720 that makes his self wash up. He won't come outside, 2:04:09.400 --> 2:04:13.440 he won't show up because he don't you know, he 2:04:13.480 --> 2:04:16.240 hasn't preserved hisself. He don't feel the chi you know 2:04:16.240 --> 2:04:18.520 what I mean? There was recently. So if you do say, 2:04:18.520 --> 2:04:20.000 they don't wan, they don't want to do videos no 2:04:20.080 --> 2:04:24.720 more because because of the physical appearances like nah nah yo, gee, listen, 2:04:25.440 --> 2:04:28.320 you're still appreciated. You remember least you know least grass Peiri. 2:04:28.400 --> 2:04:31.520 He might know what that is, yo. You see Lee 2:04:31.560 --> 2:04:35.160 Scrass Prairie Yo. He was he I went to a 2:04:35.240 --> 2:04:38.400 Jamaican festival. Oh his roster ship, that's why he knows. 2:04:39.920 --> 2:04:43.200 He looked like a prophet, right, he was super super 2:04:43.320 --> 2:04:45.960 great out just you know what you wanted to see him. 2:04:46.760 --> 2:04:48.400 You wanted to touch that. He was like, yo, hold on, 2:04:48.440 --> 2:04:51.200 I want to that that's real, but you know so 2:04:51.520 --> 2:04:54.360 so just saying that that the culture will continue to 2:04:54.440 --> 2:04:58.480 attract younger generations. The industry itself thought they could write 2:04:58.520 --> 2:05:00.600 it off, but they thought it was a fat It's 2:05:00.640 --> 2:05:03.360 not a fadest fifty years. It's fifty years old, you know, 2:05:03.760 --> 2:05:06.480 and it's international, and it's international. It's going to continue. 2:05:06.640 --> 2:05:08.640 And one thing I've said on this show a bunch 2:05:08.640 --> 2:05:12.040 of times is it's the number. It should be considered 2:05:12.080 --> 2:05:15.280 that it is the number one cultural export of the 2:05:15.400 --> 2:05:18.200 United States to the world, and we are not really 2:05:18.240 --> 2:05:19.200 taking advantage of that. 2:05:19.720 --> 2:05:22.040 The culture didn't take advantage of it, right, We didn't. 2:05:22.080 --> 2:05:24.640 And what happens is each region now is saying, all right, well, 2:05:25.280 --> 2:05:27.720 because I've traveled and they in the hip hop heads 2:05:27.760 --> 2:05:29.720 in these countries and said, you guys lost your way 2:05:29.880 --> 2:05:34.520 hip hop wise, you guys are corporate and you lost it. 2:05:34.680 --> 2:05:38.000 So they're creating their own vibe within themselves, which which 2:05:38.040 --> 2:05:40.600 is just good. Yeah, but we should pay attention and 2:05:41.280 --> 2:05:42.280 keep in touch because it. 2:05:42.360 --> 2:05:46.320 Got from here, right, well, they will come back here too. 2:05:46.360 --> 2:05:50.720 There's the artist called I did an album with an artist. 2:05:50.800 --> 2:05:54.000 Her name is a witch out of Okinawa and she 2:05:54.200 --> 2:05:59.720 kind of Yeah, Okinawa, Japan got a song featuring asaf Berg. 2:06:01.800 --> 2:06:02.520 Who else joined it? 2:06:03.080 --> 2:06:07.240 That's where mister Miyagi from Yeah yeah, hold. 2:06:07.120 --> 2:06:16.960 On one of the biggest the home of Saki Yo Okinawa. Right, 2:06:17.160 --> 2:06:20.440 check this out, love, they got a saki Okay, check 2:06:20.520 --> 2:06:24.200 this out. So they had a snake that was killing 2:06:24.240 --> 2:06:27.480 all the people. Oh ship they put the snake in. Yeah, 2:06:27.560 --> 2:06:29.920 snake was poisonous, killing all the people. They went and 2:06:30.080 --> 2:06:33.040 captured them, all the snakes and they put them in 2:06:33.600 --> 2:06:36.400 in saki bottles and you drank it. They fermented the 2:06:36.440 --> 2:06:39.440 snake and it's an apple dsiac. I believe that. Let's 2:06:39.520 --> 2:06:48.040 be drinking and you'd be like, yo, what up? Anyway? Okinawa? Okay? 2:06:48.120 --> 2:06:51.640 This this we at We got. 2:06:53.240 --> 2:06:57.480 Full time slime, Primo a p rock. Now you skipped 2:06:57.520 --> 2:06:58.000 a million. 2:06:58.040 --> 2:06:59.800 I know that's why you're gonna do it. No, No, 2:07:01.200 --> 2:07:02.880 we can added this, we can we can go back, 2:07:02.960 --> 2:07:06.440 we go back. Yeah, you add all this, but Primo 2:07:06.600 --> 2:07:11.800 Pete rock in which in the producer way, that's the 2:07:11.880 --> 2:07:16.480 deep even though Peple Rock do rhyme too, that's that's 2:07:16.600 --> 2:07:23.160 that's deep rock rock. That's that's deep. That's a deep one. 2:07:23.880 --> 2:07:30.680 I gotta say both. I'm in this takes really better. 2:07:30.720 --> 2:07:31.200 It's getting better. 2:07:32.600 --> 2:07:33.240 Is different? 2:07:33.440 --> 2:07:35.560 Is it a different one? I'm saying, is it like, 2:07:35.640 --> 2:07:36.440 what's the mixture of this? 2:07:36.640 --> 2:07:39.560 Yeah? So so this one here is also. I like 2:07:39.680 --> 2:07:42.440 this one the best. It's still a jumi, but so 2:07:43.000 --> 2:07:47.160 not to go there. This this particular brand makes about 2:07:47.280 --> 2:07:53.160 five levels of saki, all premeal. She's getting more, She's 2:07:53.200 --> 2:07:53.760 moving more and more. 2:07:53.960 --> 2:07:55.040 She didn't even know that, did you know that? 2:07:55.840 --> 2:07:59.840 Yeah, she's moving up and off. Is that the left bottle? 2:08:00.440 --> 2:08:04.000 We got the ceramic? No, we don't get the ceramic. 2:08:04.080 --> 2:08:06.880 It's the only one we could. No, No, there's a ceramic. Yeah, 2:08:07.960 --> 2:08:12.120 so that's that's we have it. Yeah, yeah, we move 2:08:12.160 --> 2:08:14.040 it up the ladder. Okay, okay, let's go. 2:08:16.520 --> 2:08:17.720 Start passing people, I think. 2:08:21.560 --> 2:08:23.720 Okay, so let me let me speak of those who brothers. 2:08:23.760 --> 2:08:25.600 You're gonna chop you up anyway. So whatever. 2:08:27.240 --> 2:08:31.840 So p Rock, you know, he pioneered so much for 2:08:31.960 --> 2:08:33.000 us and hip hop. 2:08:34.800 --> 2:08:35.200 Always. 2:08:35.800 --> 2:08:39.040 You know, I love his horn chops was very interesting. 2:08:39.160 --> 2:08:42.120 It was he was an m C. He rock and 2:08:42.160 --> 2:08:45.240 see all smooth, crazy, his his his his his ideas, 2:08:46.000 --> 2:08:48.640 you know, and then Premiere. 2:08:49.280 --> 2:08:53.839 Premiere actually created a formula. 2:08:56.040 --> 2:09:02.560 Premiere made a formula that works every time MS if 2:09:02.560 --> 2:09:05.080 you pay attention to that. A lot of producers wasn't 2:09:05.080 --> 2:09:09.400 able to do that. He created his own formula. You 2:09:09.560 --> 2:09:12.440 check Pete Rock, you check Residue, check dras. None of 2:09:12.560 --> 2:09:17.760 us don't have a concise formula. I'm trying to figure 2:09:17.760 --> 2:09:18.480 out where you're going with. 2:09:18.560 --> 2:09:21.040 This, Like he's consistent in his formulas. What you're saying 2:09:21.120 --> 2:09:23.800 his formala his fault. Yeah, you don't mean a sound, 2:09:24.240 --> 2:09:24.800 not a sound. 2:09:25.000 --> 2:09:27.760 I mean it is kind of. It's not a sound 2:09:27.760 --> 2:09:30.720 because this sound was inspired by all his sound changes as. 2:09:30.640 --> 2:09:33.600 We change, right, Okay, okay, but physic it's drum pattern 2:09:34.080 --> 2:09:35.280 is his formal. 2:09:35.920 --> 2:09:38.280 Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what you mean. Okay, 2:09:38.560 --> 2:09:39.280 his formala. 2:09:39.400 --> 2:09:44.959 Okay, you're saying it's a chop like he has a form. 2:09:46.320 --> 2:09:50.760 He has a formula that you know it is a Premiere. 2:09:51.480 --> 2:09:53.520 Well yeah, it's a signature sound for sure. 2:09:53.600 --> 2:09:56.960 Yeah, but not just the sound. Bro if he don't 2:09:57.000 --> 2:09:59.680 scratch in the hook, but you can still know it's 2:09:59.720 --> 2:10:02.800 for me, No, it ain't Premire. You're not going to 2:10:02.920 --> 2:10:04.720 find his joint. 2:10:04.880 --> 2:10:08.040 Without a scratching it that he doesn't incorporate his DJ, 2:10:09.560 --> 2:10:10.880 his his his his his. 2:10:11.800 --> 2:10:14.600 He also keeps I think he keeps one of his 2:10:14.720 --> 2:10:18.600 old machines still right, he keeps keeps his old equipment 2:10:19.240 --> 2:10:22.240 and he uses that in his formula show every time 2:10:22.280 --> 2:10:26.440 you played one of his tracks, right, you know, Okay, 2:10:26.480 --> 2:10:31.360 that's what you could tell it's Premiere right, right, right, 2:10:31.560 --> 2:10:33.520 But Pete Rock. You got to Michael old p Rock 2:10:33.560 --> 2:10:37.160 did that? You can tell him that. No, Okay, did 2:10:37.200 --> 2:10:44.040 you know Pete Rock when he did? Okay, wait, who 2:10:44.080 --> 2:10:56.520 did Above the Clouds? That was that's Premier's people. All 2:10:56.560 --> 2:10:58.160 the way they did was the one when it was 2:10:58.400 --> 2:11:03.920 with the racing ship, Start your engines? Yeah, yeah, that's 2:11:03.960 --> 2:11:04.440 Pete Rock. 2:11:04.800 --> 2:11:06.440 Right, But wasn't you on that? 2:11:08.760 --> 2:11:11.480 I want to make it is that Pete Rock, Pete 2:11:11.560 --> 2:11:18.040 Rock digging. I'm alright, let me say this has made 2:11:18.080 --> 2:11:22.800 a formula. Pete Rock is a master. But similar to 2:11:22.920 --> 2:11:26.440 me in a way. We've we've played in multiple chambers, 2:11:27.600 --> 2:11:27.800 you know. 2:11:27.800 --> 2:11:28.160 What I mean? 2:11:28.600 --> 2:11:33.160 So so Cuban Link, even though it's Riza, it's nothing 2:11:33.240 --> 2:11:35.600 like Old Dirty's album. If you really look at it, 2:11:37.600 --> 2:11:43.760 the sonic quality could be similar, But Dirty album is 2:11:43.800 --> 2:11:53.680 full of bass. Tubman links its strings. It's totally a 2:11:53.880 --> 2:11:57.560 different chamber. Liquid Spars is totally different from crazy. Every 2:11:57.600 --> 2:11:59.960 time he says the noises, I know exactly. 2:11:59.640 --> 2:12:05.240 Where who are you compare yourself more to it. 2:12:05.280 --> 2:12:06.360 So I'm like, no, I'm not comparing. 2:12:06.360 --> 2:12:06.840 I'm not comparing. 2:12:10.040 --> 2:12:13.120 You know, I said both because they both are pillars. 2:12:13.200 --> 2:12:17.800 But I want to I want to say, identify the difference. 2:12:18.120 --> 2:12:23.920 It's like nobody's in production quality level matches Doctor Dre 2:12:25.560 --> 2:12:30.880 quality level. If you put on Michael Jackson do and 2:12:31.040 --> 2:12:34.440 you put on Doctor Dre, you don't got to touch 2:12:34.520 --> 2:12:40.400 the knock. Okay, his he made records from the beginning. 2:12:41.240 --> 2:12:46.040 That's at the quality of all the records elanated in history, 2:12:46.080 --> 2:12:49.520 at the highest level. That's ill you put on thirty 2:12:49.560 --> 2:12:53.720 six after Dre. You gotta turn my ship up. You're 2:12:53.720 --> 2:12:55.960 gonna get a different experience though you're gonna hear something 2:12:56.000 --> 2:12:59.240 sit there, what the fuck? What the fuck is that? 2:13:01.600 --> 2:13:02.120 You know what I mean? 2:13:02.640 --> 2:13:04.400 I turned it up, but you got to turn it out. 2:13:06.160 --> 2:13:10.640 But you could just right now with with with with premire. 2:13:11.160 --> 2:13:13.760 He's also sonically there because he's pushing the drums up front, 2:13:13.880 --> 2:13:17.160 right he could, but it's still gonna master d right, 2:13:17.400 --> 2:13:21.400 it'll be high. It'd be louder than me, right, similar 2:13:21.440 --> 2:13:25.560 to Pete. But nobody's getting to Dre's va and perfections 2:13:25.560 --> 2:13:30.960 and that that VU though that ship that was moving 2:13:31.040 --> 2:13:32.600 like that, that was on your SSL. 2:13:33.160 --> 2:13:36.400 He mastered that, Yes, d like a scientist, and that 2:13:36.560 --> 2:13:37.480 my ship on the SSL. 2:13:37.560 --> 2:13:41.080 To be honest, it's like this. I pushed it all overay. 2:13:41.120 --> 2:13:43.480 There was like, yo, you can't do that. I'm like, 2:13:43.520 --> 2:13:47.120 why not? When you master this, nigga, they wanna go. 2:13:48.680 --> 2:13:51.520 Now your is gonna sound where it's gonna sound. I 2:13:51.600 --> 2:13:53.040 don't get you know what I mean? 2:13:53.160 --> 2:13:55.520 But anyway, so, but but did you do that on purpose? 2:13:56.120 --> 2:13:56.400 For me? 2:13:56.840 --> 2:13:58.640 A lot of my ship I did because that was 2:13:58.720 --> 2:14:00.880 the whole allure of For me. A lot of my 2:14:00.960 --> 2:14:03.760 shid I died was purposely. Let me say one thing 2:14:03.800 --> 2:14:06.320 that that's weird about me, and you could this isn't 2:14:06.360 --> 2:14:09.600 part of your question. So for me, right, if you 2:14:09.800 --> 2:14:11.800 take one of my tracks in the studio and you 2:14:11.880 --> 2:14:16.640 came to the board, if you move the fader down, 2:14:17.400 --> 2:14:23.600 the beat falls apart. It only works because of the 2:14:23.720 --> 2:14:26.480 post of what I'm of the level that I set 2:14:26.480 --> 2:14:29.240 everything at it's only working because of the posts of 2:14:29.280 --> 2:14:33.520 what I'm Controlling'm controlling the pulse. It's not everything is 2:14:33.600 --> 2:14:37.320 not in key, and everything is not in rhythm, But 2:14:37.480 --> 2:14:41.840 what's the dominating pulse? Makes it make sense? Even you 2:14:41.920 --> 2:14:44.280 go to that same knowledge of God song on Ray 2:14:44.360 --> 2:14:49.360 Kuan's album, it doesn't. If you move something, it's like 2:14:50.200 --> 2:14:54.000 you lost it, Bobby, you dropped it. So that happens 2:14:54.160 --> 2:14:57.480 people with the engineers, you fucked up. I'm like, Noah, 2:14:57.840 --> 2:15:01.040 while you do that, well, you fucked up, bro, That's 2:15:01.080 --> 2:15:04.560 not what's happening here. You're thinking of the science of it. 2:15:05.560 --> 2:15:07.960 I'm working off a post. I was working off a posset, 2:15:08.520 --> 2:15:15.960 So a post means I could go like, but if 2:15:16.000 --> 2:15:19.200 I put a drum beat pushing that post, it's gonna 2:15:19.280 --> 2:15:21.760 change it. It's gonna change that to a rhythm. But 2:15:21.840 --> 2:15:25.080 then if I put it what the fuck is that? 2:15:25.680 --> 2:15:28.000 But if I put it low right here and move 2:15:28.040 --> 2:15:32.760 it paying it to the left, it's gonna it's gonna 2:15:32.800 --> 2:15:36.760 make It's like, what the fuck is going on? And 2:15:36.800 --> 2:15:39.600 then when they end sinking on it, you don't even 2:15:39.640 --> 2:15:44.600 hear nothing because now you're trapped in his flow. A 2:15:44.720 --> 2:15:46.760 good A good song like that is what the blood 2:15:46.760 --> 2:15:51.920 clock my method? Man go back and check that. But anyway, right, 2:15:56.840 --> 2:15:59.000 hold on, hold on, hold on. So the next question, 2:16:00.400 --> 2:16:04.440 only built for Cuba Links or iron Man? Where does 2:16:04.440 --> 2:16:04.640 this go? 2:16:04.800 --> 2:16:04.920 Bro? 2:16:05.840 --> 2:16:09.560 Only built for Cuba Links. That was easy, That was easy. 2:16:10.160 --> 2:16:13.920 Only Cuba Links is the foundation of iron Man. Okay, okay, 2:16:14.040 --> 2:16:18.880 iron Man is good? Right, but iron Man falls short? Yeah, yeah, 2:16:18.920 --> 2:16:21.080 we fall short. But I'm gonna deny it because what 2:16:21.240 --> 2:16:24.400 happened in iron Man is that we have the flood 2:16:25.400 --> 2:16:28.400 in the middle of the album. So after Cuban Links 2:16:28.440 --> 2:16:32.920 Liquid Sports, we start iron Man, and the second flood happens. 2:16:34.240 --> 2:16:37.920 This flood, though it doesn't destroy floppy disc like the 2:16:38.000 --> 2:16:40.879 one that got sucked up. Now and now the equipment 2:16:41.720 --> 2:16:43.520 is fuck. I got a two itch machine in my crip. 2:16:43.800 --> 2:16:44.400 Real flood. 2:16:45.160 --> 2:16:50.920 I'm thinking I'm a sling. I've been through two floods. 2:16:51.120 --> 2:16:52.680 Okay. Once I thought I could have. 2:16:54.360 --> 2:16:54.840 Biblical on. 2:16:56.640 --> 2:17:00.640 The flood wasn't coming from under I moved to It 2:17:00.760 --> 2:17:04.160 came from over. Wow, that's just my own comma that 2:17:04.240 --> 2:17:05.840 I have to fix. I had to get a good woman, 2:17:06.320 --> 2:17:15.800 which I have. Now I have a good woman. Now 2:17:16.360 --> 2:17:22.560 let's take itself for a good So I am man 2:17:22.720 --> 2:17:25.160 was finished and Mystic Studios when you falling mistake you better. 2:17:25.600 --> 2:17:28.320 So we had to leave our own studio and didn't 2:17:28.360 --> 2:17:31.600 go to Mystic. And now seeing my own studio, every 2:17:31.840 --> 2:17:36.680 compressor was already set. When Ghosts came in. He sounded 2:17:36.720 --> 2:17:40.840 like ghosts every time, because I set the settings right. 2:17:40.959 --> 2:17:44.560 Every MC had their own compressor, their own settings. Now 2:17:44.600 --> 2:17:47.800 I'm in a somebody else studio, it ain't the same. 2:17:48.240 --> 2:17:51.080 And when I leave there tomorrow or god comfort, two days, 2:17:51.280 --> 2:17:54.120 he done change it again. Okay, because somebody else uses 2:17:54.120 --> 2:17:58.200 s so liquids foil than Cuban relations, which people considered 2:17:58.200 --> 2:18:02.000 the epitome of my creation. Nothing changed. 2:18:02.959 --> 2:18:03.680 It was consistent. 2:18:03.800 --> 2:18:06.920 It was consistent, and so when you hear them, it 2:18:07.520 --> 2:18:13.400 sounds like him. One thing a lot of put artists 2:18:13.400 --> 2:18:19.400 and producers don't realize is that. And I'll say that 2:18:19.440 --> 2:18:21.400 we all due respect because we're not talking about nobody else, 2:18:21.480 --> 2:18:23.880 of course, But okay, so Snoop goes to no limit. 2:18:24.560 --> 2:18:27.480 That album don't sound like Doctor Dre. You see what 2:18:27.480 --> 2:18:32.080 I'm saying. So the studio you use, it's just like 2:18:32.640 --> 2:18:34.440 DN was it D M D and D D and 2:18:34.520 --> 2:18:37.480 D D and D Man. Once some dudes didn't go 2:18:37.560 --> 2:18:38.279 there no more. 2:18:40.040 --> 2:18:40.760 And they don't. 2:18:42.080 --> 2:18:44.120 Premiere. He was the one that really made D and 2:18:44.200 --> 2:18:46.800 D sounded. But once once people started going there, they 2:18:46.840 --> 2:18:49.400 all got good. I think, like maybe, but once they 2:18:49.400 --> 2:18:52.360 stopped going there, it's like, oh, there's no D n 2:18:52.440 --> 2:18:56.640 D there. Sometimes the studio itself is part of the 2:18:57.160 --> 2:19:00.640 vibe and so on. So you say accumulations iron Man. 2:19:01.240 --> 2:19:07.360 Iron Man was finished and mystic and to me, we 2:19:07.800 --> 2:19:12.520 we forced our hand on compromised. So anyway that this 2:19:12.640 --> 2:19:15.760 is this is a great as for me as a fan. Yeah, yeah, 2:19:17.480 --> 2:19:19.200 I'm glad that the fans get to hear this, but 2:19:19.280 --> 2:19:20.119 this is me as a fan. 2:19:20.400 --> 2:19:24.720 Capadana, master Killer, this got. 2:19:26.080 --> 2:19:28.800 I don't get that this is this is. 2:19:34.080 --> 2:19:37.400 Sha Shall we talk about them a little bit? Yeah, 2:19:37.440 --> 2:19:40.959 hell yeah, man yo legends. By the way, master Killer 2:19:41.040 --> 2:19:42.640 just dropped the album today and I'm on. 2:19:47.879 --> 2:19:49.840 The Killer. Let me just take you something. I haven't 2:19:49.959 --> 2:19:53.000 ribbed this so long that when when I heard my 2:19:53.160 --> 2:19:55.040 own verse, I was like, how did he get this? 2:19:56.200 --> 2:19:56.520 I don't know. 2:19:56.680 --> 2:19:57.080 I think. 2:19:59.000 --> 2:20:01.120 I was like, nor are you going? I heard that? 2:20:06.879 --> 2:20:11.280 Yeah, album was dope because I had. What I did 2:20:11.400 --> 2:20:12.120 was just listen to it. 2:20:12.200 --> 2:20:13.920 As I was getting a haircut, I listened to my 2:20:14.000 --> 2:20:17.240 point obviously, and I mean first because I was I was, 2:20:17.400 --> 2:20:20.040 I was amazed at me. I was like, really still 2:20:20.080 --> 2:20:23.000 got it? So and then the album just kept playing 2:20:23.000 --> 2:20:24.920 and I was just like, damn, bro got some joy 2:20:25.000 --> 2:20:28.560 from it, like like hip hop is still making hip hop. 2:20:28.640 --> 2:20:31.039 It's just we gotta we gotta search for it. Now. 2:20:31.120 --> 2:20:32.960 You gotta search for it. Now you know what we 2:20:33.040 --> 2:20:35.240 could do. We gotta search for it. So we always 2:20:35.280 --> 2:20:38.320 had to search for it, right, you know reality I 2:20:38.480 --> 2:20:42.160 mentioned earlier that just took me to sound view projects. 2:20:42.879 --> 2:20:44.520 That's a long ride here. 2:20:44.640 --> 2:20:46.960 Hip hop, you're singing in a different way. 2:20:47.000 --> 2:20:48.280 It's the same thing. Yeah, it's a search. 2:20:48.480 --> 2:20:50.600 It's like going from kin Do. So we used to 2:20:50.640 --> 2:20:52.920 go to Winwood to all the hip hop jams and 2:20:52.920 --> 2:20:58.040 Winwood you know w kN do to to to the 2:20:58.240 --> 2:21:00.520 w Hotel. But I'm telling you, you know, I'm telling 2:21:00.520 --> 2:21:04.119 you from Kendo. We was going to Winwood where Zoolo 2:21:04.200 --> 2:21:05.600 Nation used to throw their parties at. 2:21:06.000 --> 2:21:08.480 I say, I'm trying to tell you the distance. 2:21:08.560 --> 2:21:10.760 Distance I'm not saying like I'm. 2:21:10.640 --> 2:21:12.480 Telling you that's that's the equivalent of us having to 2:21:12.560 --> 2:21:15.240 travel experience, further experience. 2:21:17.640 --> 2:21:22.160 I mean, what kindle when yeah, in the ferry man 2:21:22.400 --> 2:21:24.720 to get to get they could go underserved to get 2:21:25.040 --> 2:21:28.320 to get the sound view from the Staten Island minimum 2:21:29.600 --> 2:21:34.600 two hours two and a half hours minimum minimum. Listen, 2:21:35.080 --> 2:21:38.400 it's the Bronx when the Bronx was like burn down 2:21:38.440 --> 2:21:42.560 Bronx not not just that from there, Yo, you'll see listen, bro. 2:21:43.240 --> 2:21:46.879 People don't understand this life of what hip hop went through. 2:21:48.120 --> 2:21:49.160 Hip Hop went through. 2:21:50.800 --> 2:22:01.679 Topads on the floor, blood, crime, cops, crooked, uh cry fire. 2:22:02.160 --> 2:22:09.320 Hip hop and lived. And now you see somebody in 2:22:09.440 --> 2:22:13.360 Korea you know what I mean exactly. You know, it's 2:22:13.400 --> 2:22:15.880 a beautiful thing. What hip hop did is this and 2:22:15.959 --> 2:22:18.480 he am I about to digress a little bit. So, 2:22:18.840 --> 2:22:22.280 so a law is merciful. Let's just know that, right. 2:22:23.680 --> 2:22:25.720 And we all have arm leg leg arm head. So 2:22:25.800 --> 2:22:28.039 don't when you hear alaw, don't get scared. Some people, 2:22:28.080 --> 2:22:31.400 Oh nah, we all have arm leg leg arm had 2:22:31.480 --> 2:22:35.720 that image. But a law is merciful and he finds 2:22:35.800 --> 2:22:39.560 ways to deliver mercy. You know what I mean. Hip 2:22:39.600 --> 2:22:42.040 Hop is a mercy. The Quran was a mercy. They 2:22:42.080 --> 2:22:43.800 said it was a mercy. It says, a law gave 2:22:43.840 --> 2:22:46.240 the Koran to Muhammad as a mercy the man, so 2:22:46.400 --> 2:22:49.440 he could know what's good and what's bad and how 2:22:49.520 --> 2:22:51.640 to navigate through this. And it's a book of not 2:22:51.840 --> 2:22:57.840 just spirituality. It's political, it's business, it science, it's husbandry, 2:22:58.280 --> 2:23:04.280 it's wives, it's inherit. This right hip hop comes to 2:23:04.400 --> 2:23:09.280 our community as a saving force. It first saves us 2:23:09.360 --> 2:23:14.560 in New York, but then it continues to move. Okay, 2:23:14.640 --> 2:23:17.560 it's okay, we saved these guys. Let's save some West 2:23:17.600 --> 2:23:20.720 coast guys. Let's get the terminals first. Okay, Now it's 2:23:20.720 --> 2:23:24.039 get in the middle. Let's go to the south. Now, 2:23:24.959 --> 2:23:28.280 let's go, let's go. Do you hear the new Indian 2:23:28.400 --> 2:23:32.520 m CSI now is out there? 2:23:34.879 --> 2:23:36.080 The Vietnamese MCS. 2:23:36.520 --> 2:23:38.920 Yo, listen I went to When I went to I'm 2:23:38.920 --> 2:23:41.160 one of the first MCS to ever perform in Egypt. 2:23:41.480 --> 2:23:43.039 You will never know that because they don't be They 2:23:43.080 --> 2:23:47.720 didn't record it, they didn't allow it. It was unallowed. 2:23:47.840 --> 2:23:54.320 I took it. Me and Sean Paul, right, what a combination, separate, 2:23:54.400 --> 2:23:55.320 separate times. 2:23:57.040 --> 2:23:57.360 Together. 2:23:58.520 --> 2:24:00.440 But I was just saying it was like it didn't 2:24:00.480 --> 2:24:04.360 exist there. Now it exists, So hip hop has went 2:24:04.440 --> 2:24:07.480 and saved all these families. You go to South Africa 2:24:07.959 --> 2:24:10.240 and you see a brother pull up with a Bentley. 2:24:10.760 --> 2:24:14.040 How you get that? Hip hop not saying that the 2:24:14.120 --> 2:24:17.640 Bentley is the is the thing he should have gotten, right, 2:24:17.720 --> 2:24:19.160 But when you get money, the first thing you do 2:24:19.400 --> 2:24:23.000 is get the luxury to appreciate the money. Mahamad Ali 2:24:23.120 --> 2:24:26.320 said it. They said to Muhammad Ali. They said, Mohammad Ali, 2:24:26.440 --> 2:24:28.600 you talk about the black man and all the power 2:24:28.720 --> 2:24:31.800 he should have, and you're trying to to, you know, 2:24:32.000 --> 2:24:35.160 raise the constuts of your people, and you want them to, 2:24:35.840 --> 2:24:38.440 you know, not be caught up into the white man's world. 2:24:39.120 --> 2:24:42.720 But you, Muhammad, you have a Bentley. How do you 2:24:43.320 --> 2:24:47.120 justify that? He said, no, no, no, I have true Bentley's, 2:24:48.720 --> 2:24:51.320 he said. He said, because my people got to see 2:24:51.360 --> 2:24:54.800 that what I do make something mean something. They see 2:24:54.840 --> 2:24:58.000 a value. They don't want me coming over ripped clothes 2:24:58.080 --> 2:25:01.200 and trying to talk to them. That's that was Jesus job. 2:25:02.040 --> 2:25:06.160 He came over. You know, you know, so Petland, you 2:25:06.240 --> 2:25:08.520 know what I mean. The job. The job now was 2:25:08.560 --> 2:25:12.520 to have a magnetism. Hip hop is that magnetism, It's 2:25:12.600 --> 2:25:16.080 that conduit. It's that, yo, and I see so many 2:25:16.160 --> 2:25:19.680 of us blessed by it, you know what I mean 2:25:19.840 --> 2:25:22.080 that we ought to be thankful. I'm gonna take a 2:25:22.160 --> 2:25:24.800 moment right now if you guys don't mind toast the 2:25:24.879 --> 2:25:26.760 hip hop, toast the hip hop. Oh god damn it, 2:25:31.120 --> 2:25:33.800 none onless here would be here without hip hop exactly. 2:25:33.920 --> 2:25:39.000 Absolutely looks. We talked about his voice earlier, right, and 2:25:39.400 --> 2:25:43.920 and and you know we all dance to his fucking joint. 2:25:44.840 --> 2:25:49.320 What what we all know? He threw elbow, He puts 2:25:49.360 --> 2:25:51.200 people out our way when that shit came on, right, 2:25:52.000 --> 2:25:56.480 And that was a voice, but he's hip hop and 2:25:56.640 --> 2:25:58.520 his voice wasn't limited to the music. 2:25:58.879 --> 2:26:02.200 That's what's happening to hip hop for us, Elder Statesman. 2:26:02.520 --> 2:26:04.360 You don't have to just be the music. And I'm 2:26:04.360 --> 2:26:06.360 glad that Massacilor got a new album. And you heard 2:26:06.400 --> 2:26:11.119 your joint and it's called balance. Balance, balance, okay, yes, asked? 2:26:11.160 --> 2:26:15.600 I said, why balance, Samuel, He said, Yo, God, balance 2:26:15.680 --> 2:26:18.480 is always needed, it is. That's that's the beauty of 2:26:18.560 --> 2:26:21.640 hip hop when it's balanced, exactly. And we can agree 2:26:21.720 --> 2:26:23.920 right now it feels unbalanced. 2:26:23.520 --> 2:26:26.120 Unbalanced, but you have all the ship in it. 2:26:26.320 --> 2:26:30.160 The fuckery and the righteousness exactly as long as it's 2:26:30.200 --> 2:26:31.000 balanced exactly. 2:26:31.520 --> 2:26:34.000 Give me the blue and the red pill choice, but 2:26:34.920 --> 2:26:37.560 give me some wisdom behind my choice. And that's what. 2:26:37.680 --> 2:26:39.720 That's what, that's what. That's what I hope that we 2:26:39.840 --> 2:26:40.440 can provide. 2:26:40.480 --> 2:26:43.760 I've been drinking that. You know, those w's kind of 2:26:44.720 --> 2:26:48.199 a little bit there. You drank the more you should 2:26:48.520 --> 2:27:01.240 any I believe you own a w. It's getting better, better, colder, 2:27:01.240 --> 2:27:01.880 it gets the better. 2:27:02.040 --> 2:27:03.840 Yes, but our bodies is not getting better. 2:27:03.879 --> 2:27:14.400 But okay everywhere. But she's like, he's up a little bit. 2:27:16.560 --> 2:27:19.200 Give me another one. You're good. She got. What's your 2:27:19.240 --> 2:27:19.560 next one? 2:27:19.600 --> 2:27:24.720 I'm good, I'm good, you got? You got the ceramics 2:27:24.760 --> 2:27:25.080 for real? 2:27:25.560 --> 2:27:30.360 Yeah, get the surrounded. I want the ceramics business. N 2:27:30.480 --> 2:27:31.600 W A public enemy? 2:27:32.280 --> 2:27:35.520 Wow? No, no, no, no, no no, you just give 2:27:35.600 --> 2:27:36.480 a million relaxed bud. 2:27:38.600 --> 2:27:40.440 You can twist it. You want to twist that one twist. 2:27:41.840 --> 2:27:44.160 Here's my favorite question on this whole show period. 2:27:44.280 --> 2:27:47.640 Okay, here we go. I'm not I might as well 2:27:47.720 --> 2:27:53.880 ask him n w A or Wu Tang clan. 2:27:54.400 --> 2:27:54.879 No, we don't. 2:27:54.959 --> 2:27:55.240 I don't. 2:27:55.320 --> 2:27:56.720 I personally don't like you, guys. 2:27:57.040 --> 2:27:59.800 Everybody doesn't like this question because of the different era. 2:28:00.240 --> 2:28:03.840 But what I'm saying is it's the same impact even 2:28:03.879 --> 2:28:07.880 though it's different errors. Like what what what n w 2:28:08.080 --> 2:28:12.520 A did for for for Los Angeles, California West Coast 2:28:12.560 --> 2:28:17.000 period was changed everything. They made people start wearing curls, 2:28:17.160 --> 2:28:20.280 They made people start wearing bandanas, they made people start, 2:28:20.560 --> 2:28:23.560 you know, krip walking, gang banging. Well, Wu tang, did 2:28:24.040 --> 2:28:27.439 you made black motherfuckers want to be Chinese Japanese? 2:28:27.840 --> 2:28:28.880 You made motherfuckers? 2:28:29.120 --> 2:28:31.320 We're in hold on man, man, it's like you you 2:28:31.520 --> 2:28:36.640 changed the culture like like so to me, the impact, 2:28:37.680 --> 2:28:40.320 I'm not saying the errors not when we put this 2:28:40.400 --> 2:28:42.240 question together. And by the way, it's not our question. 2:28:42.760 --> 2:28:45.120 These are these two guys. There's a cocaine section in Colombia. 2:28:52.840 --> 2:28:55.520 Okay, we're in Miami, Miami. 2:28:55.680 --> 2:28:58.119 Would it be like the Colombia. 2:29:00.120 --> 2:29:00.960 Like to ask this question. 2:29:01.000 --> 2:29:03.280 It's my favorite question because the reason why I like 2:29:03.320 --> 2:29:05.960 to ask it is because I'd be wanting people to 2:29:06.120 --> 2:29:09.840 understand I'm not asking the errors or who came before 2:29:09.879 --> 2:29:13.440 who or who influenced too. What I'm saying is the impact. 2:29:13.720 --> 2:29:15.280 But you didn't ask it to start with. It was 2:29:15.320 --> 2:29:18.600 these guys question. But I thought it was genius. 2:29:18.640 --> 2:29:20.440 But my argument, this is my argument why I don't 2:29:20.480 --> 2:29:22.960 like the question, because I feel if those are my 2:29:23.080 --> 2:29:25.600 two fair groups, n w A and Public Enemy, I 2:29:25.640 --> 2:29:31.000 feel like they're the same energy, different sides of the spectrum. 2:29:31.560 --> 2:29:34.000 They actually are the same things, but on the different 2:29:34.000 --> 2:29:37.039 sides of the spectrum. In that era, they provided us 2:29:37.120 --> 2:29:40.160 with the balance. Right, that's what I love about that 2:29:40.360 --> 2:29:42.800 question being then too. But when I think it's Wu 2:29:42.879 --> 2:29:44.800 Tang versus w I think it's off balance. 2:29:44.920 --> 2:29:47.280 And that's sense. I respect that, But let me let 2:29:47.320 --> 2:29:48.879 me just comment and you guys can chop it up 2:29:48.879 --> 2:29:55.560 how you want. Right, So Public Enemy is inspiring in 2:29:55.800 --> 2:29:59.800 w A. N w A is not inspiring Public Enemy. Seriously, 2:30:00.320 --> 2:30:03.360 run DMC is inspiring in w A. N w A 2:30:03.480 --> 2:30:06.840 is not inspiring one DMC. But that's because the New 2:30:06.920 --> 2:30:10.400 York is the mecca of hip hop. So they got 2:30:10.520 --> 2:30:12.400 to fly to New York and find the breakbeasts and 2:30:12.440 --> 2:30:14.720 bring them doctor Cali. They can't find them of those 2:30:14.760 --> 2:30:18.040 in those record stores, right, But where n w A 2:30:18.240 --> 2:30:19.800 brought the hip hop and when they brought to the 2:30:19.879 --> 2:30:23.160 coach is undeniable. And we don't have Kendrick at the 2:30:23.240 --> 2:30:26.279 Super Bowl. If n w A don't exist, Okay. 2:30:26.320 --> 2:30:28.560 And maybe if Public Enemy don't exist as well, because 2:30:28.560 --> 2:30:30.800 I feel like there's a lineage there too as well. 2:30:31.240 --> 2:30:34.080 I'm gonna argue that. But n w A gives us 2:30:34.160 --> 2:30:38.600 doctor dre yep, yeah, well yeah, WA gives us ice cube. 2:30:38.760 --> 2:30:40.680 If we don't got ice cube, I don't make movies 2:30:42.920 --> 2:30:49.080 straight up, straight up, right, and they continue to go 2:30:49.280 --> 2:30:51.200 to the brain that goes then we get snooping me 2:30:51.520 --> 2:30:57.680 so so much. Right, So in Public Enemy is is 2:30:57.760 --> 2:31:01.960 the consciousness public Enemy asked? Did that first? They did 2:31:02.000 --> 2:31:04.120 the toy with anthrax before any of us did a 2:31:04.840 --> 2:31:09.800 rock and roll combination besides one DMC. Right, but now 2:31:09.920 --> 2:31:12.440 you throw Wu Tang into the equation, and I don't 2:31:12.440 --> 2:31:16.640 mind speaking on Wu Tang in this equation, right, what 2:31:16.800 --> 2:31:22.840 Wu Tang does is this, right, NWA influence is actually 2:31:23.280 --> 2:31:28.720 the influence of hip hop right now? New York is 2:31:28.840 --> 2:31:35.480 not selling records. Okay, name the top hip hop artists 2:31:35.480 --> 2:31:40.800 in New York at the time. Juice Crew, you got 2:31:41.680 --> 2:31:43.360 no no. By the time you get to ninety two 2:31:43.440 --> 2:31:45.280 ninety three, Jewice Crew can't sell records. 2:31:46.360 --> 2:31:50.680 Big Daddy KMEE record is eighty eight to ninety Well, 2:31:50.720 --> 2:31:52.800 I mean, if you want to take the lineage, yeah, but. 2:31:52.920 --> 2:31:57.240 They but no juice. So we get a platinum Big Biz, 2:31:57.840 --> 2:32:01.040 we get a gold knee, we get a cat, we 2:32:01.120 --> 2:32:03.840 get a gold cane, we gotta we got a platinum 2:32:03.959 --> 2:32:06.520 carreras one. We got a platinum Rock Kim in the eighties. 2:32:07.040 --> 2:32:10.600 Now in the nineties, none of them is selling platinums. 2:32:12.440 --> 2:32:17.720 Travers coming, Leaders is coming, Gang Starts coming, Traver is 2:32:17.760 --> 2:32:21.360 gonna give you gold. Nobody's giving you platinums unless it's poppy. 2:32:23.480 --> 2:32:27.400 What about what aboutation? Damn? Like I said, they come 2:32:27.560 --> 2:32:30.760 and give us a platinum. That's why I said Trench 2:32:30.879 --> 2:32:36.040 and Onyx are a new way of energy that comes 2:32:36.120 --> 2:32:40.560 up exactly okay, And still he gives us a platinum 2:32:42.240 --> 2:32:47.680 within for poppy songs, which wasn't poppy but West Coast 2:32:48.000 --> 2:32:54.320 even to load Young MC. Everybody double platinum, platinum, platinum platinums. 2:32:55.240 --> 2:32:58.000 And so even though Tretch and triv and everybody are 2:32:58.280 --> 2:33:04.360 giving us this beautiful thing black Moon, you go through 2:33:04.400 --> 2:33:09.199 that whole underground movement, you're not cracking three hundred thousand cells. 2:33:11.120 --> 2:33:13.800 Didn't do that. E P M D now is going 2:33:13.840 --> 2:33:17.279 ahead different hold on, but eld on respect the EPM 2:33:17.440 --> 2:33:19.080 No Depth. 2:33:18.840 --> 2:33:23.080 Squad is like my cousins squad. And yeah, those my cousins. 2:33:24.200 --> 2:33:27.800 I'm just saying it's declining and the and and let 2:33:27.800 --> 2:33:31.800 me say to you, and the investment is different because 2:33:31.800 --> 2:33:33.720 because look, even like Once of Again l L is 2:33:33.760 --> 2:33:36.400 one of the greatest, he's he's he's making to do 2:33:36.520 --> 2:33:40.080 all this. But I was just saying the average investment 2:33:40.320 --> 2:33:44.960 in hip hop, right, Like, let's say, what's your first 2:33:45.000 --> 2:33:49.119 record deal? Look, if you're Penalty records terrible uh economic? 2:33:49.200 --> 2:33:52.800 What was that five thousand dollars? Okay that you know 2:33:52.920 --> 2:33:59.920 that five thousand dollars. Okay, Let's say Wu Tang first album. 2:34:00.000 --> 2:34:00.360 You know what? 2:34:00.360 --> 2:34:06.760 It was sixty thousand, sixty thousand. 2:34:06.440 --> 2:34:10.520 Dollars for everybody for the whole album. Bro, nobody got 2:34:10.560 --> 2:34:14.240 no money. No, that was we lost money on that. 2:34:15.959 --> 2:34:17.400 That's what you understand this for a moment, just to 2:34:17.440 --> 2:34:21.880 get a little culture thing here. Even Method Man's album, 2:34:22.800 --> 2:34:25.520 if you take Method Man's album, his videos and everything, 2:34:26.000 --> 2:34:28.400 you're not gonna spend no more than five hundred thousand 2:34:28.400 --> 2:34:32.560 dollars he makes. He's gonna bring in twenty million dollars. 2:34:33.840 --> 2:34:39.280 Wutan is gonna bring in twenty million dollars. Okay, it's 2:34:39.400 --> 2:34:44.039 business now. On the East Coast, it's business now, it's 2:34:44.160 --> 2:34:48.960 marketing business. If the Wu Tang doesn't come and sell 2:34:49.000 --> 2:34:51.640 a million records on a budget like that, there's no 2:34:51.800 --> 2:34:54.720 business in hip hop on the East Coast. You're tying 2:34:54.760 --> 2:34:57.080 on the business side, not just in the culture. It 2:34:57.160 --> 2:35:03.119 goes both ways. Because now you got the guy who 2:35:03.840 --> 2:35:07.000 like the dude told me to my face, bro those 2:35:07.040 --> 2:35:12.240 hoodies that will never work. So take the hoodies off. Wow. 2:35:12.320 --> 2:35:17.160 Because if you go to the west beyond Nwa, when 2:35:17.200 --> 2:35:20.880 you get tone and young and all these other dudes, Dusa, 2:35:21.360 --> 2:35:30.400 Dusa are basically prince raquines. It's packaged. They've tried to 2:35:30.440 --> 2:35:34.520 package me. It didn't work. Wu Tank is unpackaged. So 2:35:34.640 --> 2:35:38.760 if I become unpackaged, he could be unpackaged. Everybody coming 2:35:38.800 --> 2:35:43.440 after us could be unpackaged because it's not a package now, 2:35:44.240 --> 2:35:48.640 it's something else happening. So the impact becomes a similar 2:35:48.680 --> 2:35:51.520 the same. Of course, the Asian culture is a whole 2:35:51.560 --> 2:35:56.040 new thing, right, But then no many brothers started running 2:35:56.080 --> 2:35:59.840 to the mosque and studying mathematics. You know what I mean? 2:36:00.080 --> 2:36:03.359 You know how many dudes as the rule movement is happening, 2:36:03.959 --> 2:36:07.400 and the college kids and the blacks and the whites 2:36:07.440 --> 2:36:09.600 and the Spanish are all kind of vibing into this 2:36:09.760 --> 2:36:11.960 new thing. And Hot ninety seven is changing from a 2:36:12.320 --> 2:36:16.480 club radio station to a hip hop radio station and 2:36:16.560 --> 2:36:19.320 the noose number one song on Hot ninety seven Method Man, 2:36:20.440 --> 2:36:27.000 it's changing the chie Now meth comes and you get 2:36:27.120 --> 2:36:32.400 a fucking a hip hop Grammy all I needed. If 2:36:32.440 --> 2:36:36.120 you go back to your hip hop duets, you can't 2:36:36.240 --> 2:36:43.240 name ten of them. That's not just a Grammy winner. 2:36:43.879 --> 2:36:48.520 They sold two million copies bro the single at that time, Yo, 2:36:49.200 --> 2:36:54.000 the single Method Man single at that time was competing 2:36:54.040 --> 2:36:57.520 with We Are the World in single cells. Wow, as 2:36:57.560 --> 2:37:00.680 far as the measurement, as far as the measurement. So 2:37:00.800 --> 2:37:03.080 something different is happening on this side of the world now. 2:37:03.560 --> 2:37:07.119 So now it's like there's money over here. It's been vests. 2:37:07.400 --> 2:37:09.880 So then and then once Cuberlee came in, like Yo, 2:37:10.879 --> 2:37:14.400 everybody started saying the wool Gambinos and now we're taking 2:37:14.400 --> 2:37:19.880 on identities. The identities changed the whole hip hop landscape. 2:37:20.400 --> 2:37:25.840 The identities are still existing. So now and it's a platinum, 2:37:26.440 --> 2:37:29.240 it ain't like a two hundred thousand sellar it's been 2:37:29.400 --> 2:37:32.199 four or five hundred grand and make ten million dollars. 2:37:32.240 --> 2:37:36.440 It's good business. So the impact is the same thing 2:37:36.480 --> 2:37:39.400 that Dre is doing on his side of town. Right, 2:37:39.720 --> 2:37:44.720 He's making star after star after star after star, and 2:37:44.840 --> 2:37:47.360 we're doing it. But the thing that's happening different is differently. 2:37:49.080 --> 2:37:51.760 You know. It's almost that I said. I started this 2:37:51.840 --> 2:37:56.480 by saying, hip hop is a mercy. A law gave 2:37:56.680 --> 2:37:59.480 us a mercy. I started from there. Then you went 2:37:59.520 --> 2:38:01.080 into the two different groups. I'm telling to let you 2:38:01.160 --> 2:38:03.160 know that. Then he said, he said he had Wou 2:38:03.240 --> 2:38:06.480 Tang and n w A. It's like, yo, they both 2:38:06.600 --> 2:38:10.880 had to do a job. They both had to do 2:38:11.000 --> 2:38:15.440 a job. Okay, in the measure of that job. You 2:38:15.600 --> 2:38:17.640 have a guy at the super Bowl. But hold on, 2:38:18.320 --> 2:38:21.680 who's the guy that hired him? Another guy who hired 2:38:21.720 --> 2:38:25.360 him jay Z. Jay Z don't exist if Wotang don't exist. 2:38:28.720 --> 2:38:31.120 But God, and I'm not saying that with an ego. 2:38:31.760 --> 2:38:34.720 I'm saying if we didn't come with cream and slow 2:38:34.760 --> 2:38:37.480 it down and put that culture into it. Because at 2:38:37.520 --> 2:38:41.720 the time he's he's he's he's not makes jay Z exactly. 2:38:42.600 --> 2:38:45.520 And of course the number of respected him because he 2:38:45.640 --> 2:38:49.560 took it, took it, and he took it and multiplied 2:38:49.640 --> 2:38:53.000 it into what he does. But it happens as Jay said, 2:38:53.440 --> 2:38:55.959 Jay don't come. I know Jay is a dirty name 2:38:56.000 --> 2:38:58.960 right now, but no, never than me. I love it. 2:38:59.040 --> 2:39:01.920 I love that brother, a man, love his family. I 2:39:02.000 --> 2:39:04.120 wish his family would have just been a family. But 2:39:04.200 --> 2:39:08.840 life is unpredictable, okay, But he don't exist. If we 2:39:08.920 --> 2:39:11.680 don't exist, right, and if he don't exist, you got 2:39:11.760 --> 2:39:14.680 a whole nother slew a lineage that don't exist. So 2:39:14.959 --> 2:39:18.200 and so you go to Dre and you go to 2:39:18.280 --> 2:39:21.680 the Abbot, you get something special, but you can say thing. 2:39:21.680 --> 2:39:24.520 You go to Chuck d and you go to uh 2:39:25.240 --> 2:39:27.279 recall and Andre and you get something special. 2:39:27.000 --> 2:39:31.640 To me public enemy ice cube, American's most wanted. That's 2:39:31.680 --> 2:39:32.959 a trajectory in its own. 2:39:33.040 --> 2:39:36.440 But something is happening, bro, that when the historians really studied, 2:39:36.560 --> 2:39:39.520 after we all leave here, they're gonna go, holy shit, 2:39:40.200 --> 2:39:43.720 these dudes, meaning all of us, including yourself, bro, as 2:39:43.760 --> 2:39:49.119 you know, these dudes want the new Bible in the Bible, right, 2:39:50.080 --> 2:39:51.960 somebody could google I don't know all the numbers of 2:39:52.000 --> 2:39:56.120 the books in the Bible. Sixty six books or something 2:39:56.160 --> 2:40:01.440 like that. Somebody google that, you know what the Google? 2:40:01.520 --> 2:40:07.760 Motherfucker Google? Who said six? Who talking my right books? 2:40:10.920 --> 2:40:14.680 I remember, mister Lee touch on the computer. I don't 2:40:14.720 --> 2:40:20.959 believe you. I don't know. I beat Google. Google. Yes, 2:40:26.320 --> 2:40:30.360 I was faster than Google, I know it. Right, the 2:40:30.440 --> 2:40:34.960 point being made, I know sixty six books. Right, there's 2:40:35.000 --> 2:40:36.959 a book in there called the Book of Oprah Dyah? 2:40:37.920 --> 2:40:41.400 Is it our first ceramic? Let's talk about this. Hold on, man, 2:40:41.879 --> 2:40:44.320 you poor, Let's talk about that bottle. Yeah, get it 2:40:44.360 --> 2:40:47.480 back for a moment. Okay, I'm I'm sorry to direct. 2:40:48.400 --> 2:40:52.640 I'm gonna have you coming, like we already said, direct 2:40:53.080 --> 2:40:59.240 direct cat me. Let me get this spiritual thing about. 2:40:59.840 --> 2:41:03.360 So in the Bible there's sixty six books. You probably 2:41:03.400 --> 2:41:06.560 all know the Book of Genesis. Yeah, you know the 2:41:07.000 --> 2:41:10.160 New Testament, Book of John Mark Luke and all those 2:41:10.160 --> 2:41:14.360 good brothers. You might know. Uh, does anybody know the 2:41:14.400 --> 2:41:23.959 Book of Opah Dyah Opa Lokaa opadya Obadiah. Okay, check 2:41:24.000 --> 2:41:26.920 it out. So I like that because part of the 2:41:27.000 --> 2:41:33.720 Testament is listen, bro. He might he might have three pages. 2:41:33.760 --> 2:41:35.760 It might not be three pages. It's not a book 2:41:35.760 --> 2:41:37.959 at all. It's in the No, it's called the Book 2:41:38.000 --> 2:41:40.320 of Obadiah, but it's a page. You in the book. 2:41:40.400 --> 2:41:43.080 You in the book, and you get a book. But 2:41:43.240 --> 2:41:47.760 he only got some a few bars in there. He's fished, 2:41:48.160 --> 2:41:52.160 but he's in the book. He's in the book. In 2:41:52.240 --> 2:41:54.560 the book, he's six. So when we think about all 2:41:54.600 --> 2:41:58.480 of us, bro, right, were in that book, and some 2:41:58.600 --> 2:42:01.920 of us will be you know, n w A. Well, 2:42:01.959 --> 2:42:05.520 he got forty fifty pages, moving forty fifty pages, somebody's 2:42:05.520 --> 2:42:06.520 gonna have to open die. 2:42:08.600 --> 2:42:14.480 So what I'm saying, but he's gonna be in the book. 2:42:14.520 --> 2:42:15.640 And that's what hip hop is doing. 2:42:16.080 --> 2:42:20.120 Yes, we're making trust me, bro, When you go back 2:42:20.160 --> 2:42:22.360 and bring all these fucking lyrics together and you bring 2:42:22.440 --> 2:42:25.039 all this shit and this, historians gotta study the times 2:42:25.640 --> 2:42:30.520 from nineteen eighty, right, I'm seventy three. I think him 2:42:30.520 --> 2:42:32.280 a seventy three. Yeah, Yah, let's think my mom said 2:42:32.520 --> 2:42:34.960 eighty because I was going with the popularity or the 2:42:35.040 --> 2:42:37.640 first platinum record. But let's say from nineteen seventy three 2:42:38.440 --> 2:42:44.480 to wherever those spaceships find it, the most information they're 2:42:44.520 --> 2:42:47.720 gonna gain it's gonna come from hip hop. Okay, see 2:42:47.800 --> 2:42:51.600 before soul and rock. Was given information because you've been 2:42:51.640 --> 2:42:55.320 listening to Stevie Wonder as as as long as full time, 2:42:55.560 --> 2:42:59.840 like he got some bars, but in hip hop the 2:43:00.160 --> 2:43:01.320 type of information. 2:43:01.959 --> 2:43:05.360 I grew up on the crime side, the New York 2:43:05.520 --> 2:43:06.200 Times side. 2:43:06.360 --> 2:43:11.240 Staying alive was no job's second hand mom's bouncing little man. 2:43:11.600 --> 2:43:14.640 Then we moved a shout the lad a young youth 2:43:15.160 --> 2:43:19.160 rocking to go too only way and I'm begating g off, 2:43:19.480 --> 2:43:24.640 drug Lou, hold it six bars, No, six bars is 2:43:24.800 --> 2:43:28.880 ten years. I started on the crime side, the New 2:43:28.959 --> 2:43:32.840 York Time side. That's already within a frame right. Staying 2:43:32.920 --> 2:43:36.600 alive was no jobs. He had second hand clothing. His 2:43:36.800 --> 2:43:39.880 mother left his father, so now they moved to Staten Island. 2:43:40.600 --> 2:43:45.560 He's a young youth rocking the little gold tooth, had 2:43:45.560 --> 2:43:47.720 a polo goose and the only way he began to 2:43:47.840 --> 2:43:51.120 g off was drug Lou. You know, Washington kid go 2:43:51.240 --> 2:43:57.360 from a married family struggle to a single mother family. 2:43:58.560 --> 2:44:02.039 So now a criminal in this street selling drugs, trying 2:44:02.080 --> 2:44:04.360 to make a living in six lines. 2:44:05.400 --> 2:44:11.800 And that said, so when it's when the spaceship. 2:44:11.400 --> 2:44:18.840 Niggas being robbing the pall metal, Yeah, Paul Metals in 2:44:18.879 --> 2:44:20.680 Brooklyn and Brooklyn for us in Miami. 2:44:20.760 --> 2:44:21.680 We took it to Paul Metal. 2:44:21.720 --> 2:44:26.480 We have a pal Metal, but. 2:44:26.520 --> 2:44:28.879 He said, pushing a big joint from down south. 2:44:29.360 --> 2:44:32.640 That's what we thought. No, no, but pal Metal is 2:44:32.680 --> 2:44:38.360 a spot in Brooklyn and the big joint from down 2:44:38.600 --> 2:44:41.440 It makes sense though, it's like a big joint from 2:44:41.440 --> 2:44:45.199 now south. But the big joint is the car because 2:44:45.640 --> 2:44:47.520 in the old days, New York niggas will go to 2:44:47.640 --> 2:44:51.119 Virginia the bottle whip for less taxes and drive it back. 2:44:51.600 --> 2:44:53.400 So now you got to Ben's nigga, but you get 2:44:53.440 --> 2:44:56.480 if I got it from down southigga, pushing a big 2:44:56.600 --> 2:45:00.720 joint from down south. Now filthy stacked up. Better watch 2:45:00.800 --> 2:45:04.280 your back these things they got it cracked up on 2:45:04.400 --> 2:45:07.240 My man from up north. Now he got a loft, 2:45:08.080 --> 2:45:11.000 you know, came up he was locked up, came home, 2:45:11.480 --> 2:45:15.480 made money and got a loft. I don't, I don't 2:45:15.480 --> 2:45:17.080 went from cream the cannon beat. Ugh, then. 2:45:18.879 --> 2:45:19.640 I don't remix. 2:45:21.560 --> 2:45:26.560 You need to let me ask you real quick, because 2:45:26.600 --> 2:45:29.120 everything you're you're saying in terms of the impacts of 2:45:29.160 --> 2:45:34.680 everything is musically. What about all the elements that are. 2:45:34.680 --> 2:45:37.400 Him saying, Oh, I say you said music, but the 2:45:37.400 --> 2:45:42.440 way you do because you're I'm sorry, Bro, it's every chamber. Yes, 2:45:43.320 --> 2:45:46.199 I'm just speaking on the surface. Of course there's lyrics, 2:45:46.560 --> 2:45:49.560 but nah, Bro, how you dress listen. 2:45:49.360 --> 2:45:51.480 Because I think the elements is what makes hip hop 2:45:51.560 --> 2:45:52.080 so special. 2:45:52.200 --> 2:45:56.040 Bro, esn you paid one hundred and fifty dollars for 2:45:56.120 --> 2:45:58.440 a hoodie, Bro two three hundred four hours for a 2:45:58.480 --> 2:46:03.039 hoodie that was banned. They told me that they would 2:46:03.080 --> 2:46:05.560 never get in the industry. My first video we had 2:46:05.600 --> 2:46:10.200 a hoodies. They said, throw the video in the garbage. Okay, 2:46:11.080 --> 2:46:15.480 we the culture. When I speak of the culture of 2:46:15.560 --> 2:46:19.720 hip hop, no, I'm not saying the just the lyrics. 2:46:19.959 --> 2:46:22.920 It's almost like when the colonists came to a country, 2:46:23.959 --> 2:46:27.120 they first send them the priests, and the priests come 2:46:27.200 --> 2:46:29.199 with the word first. From the beginning was the word, 2:46:29.280 --> 2:46:32.800 it says, and then the word becomes flesh. So of 2:46:32.879 --> 2:46:35.040 course the word is what penetrates us first. That's the music. 2:46:35.520 --> 2:46:39.480 But nah, both, I'm talking about the hairstyles, the barber. 2:46:41.760 --> 2:46:44.000 If the hip hop barber don't exist, you don't got 2:46:44.120 --> 2:46:53.880 to cut. Bro. You're looking like leaving the Beaver's so 2:46:54.000 --> 2:46:58.600 many chambers. So I told so and when I say 2:46:58.959 --> 2:47:01.800 vua and I say tang, or you say I said 2:47:01.800 --> 2:47:04.680 you guys said n w a wu tang publicing at me. Uh, 2:47:05.000 --> 2:47:09.720 you gonna keep going outcast Dayla soul. You keep naming 2:47:09.800 --> 2:47:14.400 all these different rock calm nos pivotal groups right right, biggie, 2:47:15.120 --> 2:47:20.480 they are pitting something in this palette that is changing 2:47:21.200 --> 2:47:25.160 the world. You. Your girl is going to tell you 2:47:25.280 --> 2:47:30.080 to go get her a Louis Vaton bag, bro, not 2:47:30.280 --> 2:47:40.040 because of Louis Vaton, because of hip hop, seriously, because 2:47:40.080 --> 2:47:42.600 what hip hop did with Louis Vatan, right, because what 2:47:42.760 --> 2:47:46.520 hip hop did with Gucci, It's like those things, it's 2:47:46.640 --> 2:47:51.200 like we took you know, like one point, we had 2:47:51.240 --> 2:47:54.360 a problem with sampling, right, Sampling tried to cripple us, 2:47:54.400 --> 2:47:56.320 and it did. But that's why you also have this 2:47:56.440 --> 2:47:58.879 whole new wave of just trapped beats and dope beats 2:47:58.879 --> 2:48:01.360 that don't depend upon it, right, you know, to depend 2:48:01.440 --> 2:48:03.840 upon the playing beats. Yeah, And I was just saying 2:48:03.959 --> 2:48:07.120 they got electronic for a moment. I did it with 2:48:07.200 --> 2:48:09.400 Bob me Digital. I did it. I did Bobby Digital 2:48:09.440 --> 2:48:12.200 because they were taking all my ship. Bro. I was like, 2:48:12.320 --> 2:48:15.600 fuck y'all, I hit the button right, you can't appreciate that. 2:48:15.680 --> 2:48:18.000 I'm making somebody go back. When you hear a song 2:48:18.080 --> 2:48:21.240 like after the laughter, there will be tears. It didn't 2:48:21.240 --> 2:48:24.600 sell a million records, bro, but what I say sold 2:48:24.640 --> 2:48:28.119 a million, okay, the real record saying the real record 2:48:28.480 --> 2:48:31.600 way no way like that. But they got that. 2:48:31.800 --> 2:48:32.760 The publishing off of that. 2:48:32.959 --> 2:48:37.000 Of course, of course hip hop re energized. That's bad 2:48:37.120 --> 2:48:41.320 I did. That's what. Yeah, it re energized the value 2:48:41.720 --> 2:48:45.039 I say, the resurrector resurrection shit, you know what I mean, 2:48:45.120 --> 2:48:46.680 brought it back. So I just want to still in 2:48:46.879 --> 2:48:49.959 in this punchline with that hip hop has been able 2:48:50.120 --> 2:48:55.680 to do its culture, inspire and create a value for 2:48:55.800 --> 2:49:02.480 the world, whether it's K pop, whether it's the all 2:49:02.560 --> 2:49:05.080 the New, all the new Fastest. 2:49:06.440 --> 2:49:09.120 You arguing with me before, ridiculous, man, Yo, it's hip hop, 2:49:09.680 --> 2:49:14.600 k robs hip hop, K pop is bv D. When 2:49:14.640 --> 2:49:16.600 they was doing on B hip hop. 2:49:17.360 --> 2:49:21.840 If you go back to Bell BIV Devaux and Poison, 2:49:22.640 --> 2:49:25.000 first of all, what they said, what they sampled. 2:49:26.600 --> 2:49:28.480 They always sampled hip hop always, but. 2:49:28.560 --> 2:49:31.600 That Poison sample for us was everything. But g Rapp 2:49:31.640 --> 2:49:33.880 only sold two hundred thousand, three hundred thousand records. At 2:49:33.920 --> 2:49:38.400 that time, they sampled poison. Damn, it's platinum. Most people 2:49:38.480 --> 2:49:43.600 don't even know it's g rapped. But then the career, 2:49:44.200 --> 2:49:47.480 are they doing that too, Are they sampling? What they're 2:49:47.560 --> 2:49:52.600 doing now is sampling the culture? Yeah, okay, so they 2:49:52.800 --> 2:49:55.160 checking out what they supposed to do. But there's a 2:49:55.200 --> 2:49:57.720 producer over there right now. He's American. He over there, 2:49:57.959 --> 2:50:01.560 he cacking the fuck up. It should be. He got it. 2:50:01.680 --> 2:50:04.440 He's over there, like listen, cake up, pay Bobby, he. 2:50:06.959 --> 2:50:12.160 Got he got a hundred beats. Yo, you're going again. 2:50:16.680 --> 2:50:17.640 We're skinny than you. 2:50:23.440 --> 2:50:23.600 Got. 2:50:25.080 --> 2:50:27.120 All right, let me passing back, get it up. It's 2:50:27.120 --> 2:50:27.400 all good. 2:50:27.440 --> 2:50:29.160 It's a good. Hold on, hold on, hold up, all right. 2:50:29.160 --> 2:50:31.880 So well, hold on, I just got breaking news. It 2:50:32.000 --> 2:50:35.440 is at seven o'clock breaking news. Oh wow. Wu Tang 2:50:35.560 --> 2:50:39.400 Clan joints forces with Dave Chappelle to unveil their highly 2:50:39.440 --> 2:50:44.240 anticipated Time Capsule tour of the Time Capsule. Yeah, the 2:50:44.320 --> 2:50:47.520 Time Capsule is. Oh man, we got talking about my 2:50:47.560 --> 2:50:51.320 movie I forgot about. Let's go comcast that. Yeah damn okay, 2:50:51.360 --> 2:50:53.760 So what's the time. The time? So you know that 2:50:53.879 --> 2:50:56.480 the Time Capsule is on our tour We'll bring him 2:50:56.480 --> 2:50:59.320 with us a time capsule. And this is the final tour. 2:50:59.600 --> 2:51:02.320 This is the New Chamber Tour. We're breaking this time 2:51:02.400 --> 2:51:05.360 capsule and wherever we go, every city we go, we're 2:51:05.360 --> 2:51:09.080 gonna have somebody from that city put something into that capsule. 2:51:10.360 --> 2:51:12.960 So whether I mean somebody could put this one of 2:51:13.000 --> 2:51:16.040 these and then whatever, somebody will be lucky enough to 2:51:16.160 --> 2:51:18.680 put something in theirs in that time capsule and we're 2:51:18.720 --> 2:51:20.920 going to figure out the end. Are we gonna put 2:51:20.959 --> 2:51:23.000 that time capsule on the top of a mountain. We're 2:51:23.040 --> 2:51:25.560 gonna put it somewhere, but it's gonna be the Woo 2:51:25.840 --> 2:51:31.200 time capsule that captured everything. So what happened heard of this? Yeah, 2:51:31.360 --> 2:51:33.080 I was just saying it's a new thing, okay. But 2:51:33.160 --> 2:51:38.480 what happened was the tour starts on July sixth and Baltimore. 2:51:40.080 --> 2:51:44.480 But Dave had asked me five years ago. He said, Yo, risk, 2:51:45.400 --> 2:51:47.800 if you get the Wu Tang clan to come to 2:51:47.959 --> 2:51:53.280 Yellow Springs, Ohio, those motherfuckers will go bananas. He has 2:51:53.360 --> 2:51:57.760 a small club and Yellow Springs, Hold, God's been there, okay, Yo. 2:51:57.920 --> 2:52:03.320 The Wo went there exactly, but it was like, we 2:52:03.400 --> 2:52:05.560 don't come, We only coming together now for our tour, 2:52:06.800 --> 2:52:10.600 so officially, off the grid, off the record. The first 2:52:10.640 --> 2:52:15.520 stop of this tour was Yellow Springs, Ohio. Wow. Okay, 2:52:15.720 --> 2:52:19.880 so the tour already started unofficial officially Okay, you said that, 2:52:20.480 --> 2:52:22.240 but no the first show, yes, so you could say 2:52:22.240 --> 2:52:24.800 the first show of the tour, yes, it started okay, 2:52:25.000 --> 2:52:29.640 was in Yellow Springs, Ohio at Dave Seppelle's club. So 2:52:29.800 --> 2:52:31.360 that means he got to do what oh they got 2:52:31.480 --> 2:52:33.920 to do what they have to piss something in the 2:52:34.000 --> 2:52:36.640 time capsule and Dave, I don't know what he put 2:52:36.680 --> 2:52:42.000 in there, but Dave, whatever the Ohio people did, he 2:52:42.160 --> 2:52:44.959 had something that he's putting it too this time capsule. 2:52:45.400 --> 2:52:46.880 So when we get to bought them all there beat 2:52:46.920 --> 2:52:49.000 the second people. They beat them to the punch. So 2:52:49.080 --> 2:52:50.920 you don't know what these people are putting it in 2:52:50.959 --> 2:52:53.440 the time they could put they wonder there I put in. 2:52:54.520 --> 2:52:56.680 First, I'm first, sorry, okay, okay, okay. 2:52:56.640 --> 2:53:03.280 I put in some floppy disc yeah, okay, from the flood, okay, okay, 2:53:03.600 --> 2:53:05.360 from the flood. Yeah. So I had a flood that 2:53:05.440 --> 2:53:08.600 wiped washed away a lot of my beats, and so 2:53:08.720 --> 2:53:12.640 I took a couple of real flood not the slang 2:53:12.720 --> 2:53:15.360 flood Well, okay, all right, So I had had a 2:53:15.400 --> 2:53:18.720 flood that washed away on my floppy disk and I 2:53:18.840 --> 2:53:20.720 still have those floppy disks, but they just don't work 2:53:20.760 --> 2:53:23.440 in the ASR ten no more because they got damaged. 2:53:23.760 --> 2:53:26.440 And so I took a couple of floppy discs and 2:53:26.560 --> 2:53:28.920 I put them in a time capsule as my contribution 2:53:29.080 --> 2:53:31.760 to the future. So that means that this floppy disc 2:53:32.040 --> 2:53:34.959 if people discover this wherever you put the time capsule 2:53:35.360 --> 2:53:37.840 later on in life, yeah, discover this. This might be 2:53:37.879 --> 2:53:43.160 some unreleased Wu Tang songs. Yeah, either either either unreleased 2:53:43.360 --> 2:53:48.600 or is it the original stems of the It may 2:53:48.680 --> 2:53:50.680 be unreleased. Got to be some of the stuff never 2:53:50.840 --> 2:53:53.880 never never happened. I never sampled it. You understand that 2:53:54.160 --> 2:53:59.080 you went to the bathroom, mummy. I'm sorry a lot 2:53:59.080 --> 2:54:00.200 of people, right. 2:54:00.760 --> 2:54:04.720 So they just unveiled him and who taking Dave Chappelle 2:54:05.160 --> 2:54:06.480 that I saw the post. 2:54:06.600 --> 2:54:06.920 I didn't. 2:54:07.000 --> 2:54:12.080 I didn't see it unveiling. Yeah, So, uh, what they're 2:54:12.120 --> 2:54:14.480 doing is for each stop on the tour, they're gonna 2:54:14.520 --> 2:54:15.360 have a time capsule. 2:54:15.920 --> 2:54:20.880 Yeah, it's one time capsule probably about you know, like this, right, 2:54:21.000 --> 2:54:24.200 so you don't blame your fucking turntable. Okay, but every 2:54:24.240 --> 2:54:27.959 city we go to, somebody is allowed to put something 2:54:28.040 --> 2:54:29.560 into that time capsule for their city. 2:54:29.720 --> 2:54:30.119 Anything. 2:54:30.600 --> 2:54:37.760 Yeah, I mean something reasonable, right, but I know use condos. Yeah, 2:54:41.680 --> 2:54:47.840 I'm saying yeah, yeah, something something that's moutilated or that 2:54:48.000 --> 2:54:51.480 makes sense that somebody could appreciate. Like like I put 2:54:51.520 --> 2:54:55.960 in two floppy disks from my old beat machine that 2:54:56.200 --> 2:54:59.640 that doesn't work, right, so I put that in there, right, 2:54:59.800 --> 2:55:03.400 So so they put in something from whatever he put in. 2:55:04.240 --> 2:55:06.240 And that was only two things I said. There is 2:55:06.280 --> 2:55:07.840 when I put in with Dave put in. Our first 2:55:07.840 --> 2:55:10.120 stop will be Baltimore, and somebody from that city will 2:55:10.120 --> 2:55:12.720 put something in and every city we go to, hopefully 2:55:13.280 --> 2:55:14.800 at the end of the day, were able to hit 2:55:14.879 --> 2:55:17.720 the world with this and everybody around the world gets 2:55:17.760 --> 2:55:20.320 to pitch something in that box and that box and 2:55:20.360 --> 2:55:22.760 it comes. You got to come to the joint. Is 2:55:22.800 --> 2:55:27.200 you going to Miami? Yes, one day right now, we're 2:55:27.240 --> 2:55:33.480 not schedule schedule that, Yo, bro, we going to Tampa. 2:55:33.840 --> 2:55:35.800 I said, yo, we could be a part of that. Okay, 2:55:35.840 --> 2:55:37.640 so kind of Tampa. But still I was like, how 2:55:37.640 --> 2:55:38.520 are we going to Tampa? 2:55:39.680 --> 2:55:42.480 Miami Miami's always is the worst city for tours. 2:55:43.000 --> 2:55:46.039 No, today we came in. We killed Miami for Miami. 2:55:46.120 --> 2:55:47.119 I'm saying tours in general. 2:55:47.200 --> 2:55:47.680 Ticket Master. 2:55:47.920 --> 2:55:49.160 I mean, I don't know from back in the days, 2:55:49.160 --> 2:55:51.959 from marketing times that I worked, they've always said. 2:55:51.840 --> 2:55:55.160 That, Okay, because Miami, they don't box. 2:55:55.040 --> 2:55:57.879 Ticket eleven to the club and hang out with. 2:56:00.040 --> 2:56:03.800 It. So let's just plain, let's explain this ceramic. Okay, 2:56:03.879 --> 2:56:06.640 bump bump. All right, So I'm gonna do this like 2:56:06.680 --> 2:56:08.720 a like a public announcement. I respect that. You know, 2:56:08.760 --> 2:56:10.680 you got the rules in the building. Yes, I got 2:56:10.760 --> 2:56:13.240 e f N in the buildings. I got Normy in 2:56:13.280 --> 2:56:13.720 the building. 2:56:13.959 --> 2:56:14.200 Let's go. 2:56:14.520 --> 2:56:22.040 They invited me to drink chips. He invited me like 2:56:22.720 --> 2:56:25.880 for years, years, years, and and it always wanted to 2:56:25.959 --> 2:56:29.120 be come, but it was different circumstances that didn't allow me. 2:56:29.800 --> 2:56:32.800 And it bump bump bump, but this circumstance allowed me. Yes. 2:56:33.120 --> 2:56:35.920 But as I watched this show, he's always drinking. Some niggas, 2:56:36.200 --> 2:56:39.920 I can say, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're good, yeah yeah yeah. 2:56:40.840 --> 2:56:42.560 Bleak all my niggas. I don't want to say niggas. 2:56:43.720 --> 2:57:03.240 Some niggas, niggas niggas, my niggas, the cocaine section. So 2:57:03.360 --> 2:57:05.600 now so, so I said, I'll come bump bump with you, 2:57:05.680 --> 2:57:09.480 and we here, but I wanted to drink something that's 2:57:09.560 --> 2:57:12.600 more of an upper okay, and so we have sacky. 2:57:12.640 --> 2:57:16.680 We've been drinking socky this whole ship. One three bottle. 2:57:16.800 --> 2:57:20.280 This is the third one bottle? Is this this is 2:57:20.320 --> 2:57:22.080 the third? It is the third? Yeah, it's the third. 2:57:22.160 --> 2:57:25.800 You did one? Yeah? Okay, okay, is this dispressing one? 2:57:26.080 --> 2:57:26.600 Special one? 2:57:27.440 --> 2:57:28.360 Yeah, it's dispecial. 2:57:29.680 --> 2:57:32.840 It's not special bottle. Look at this bottle. Look at that? 2:57:35.080 --> 2:57:37.199 Hey what the camera that? Yeah? You want to zoom 2:57:37.240 --> 2:57:37.480 in on that? 2:57:37.600 --> 2:57:38.680 Yeah, yeah, zoom in on that. 2:57:39.879 --> 2:57:43.400 Yeah. I always say cocaine white. 2:57:45.879 --> 2:57:46.760 You got the cocaine. 2:57:47.800 --> 2:57:55.360 Yeah, my brother, you don't con sip, but you can't sniff. 2:58:02.440 --> 2:58:04.000 So why this one white? 2:58:04.600 --> 2:58:08.240 A ceramic ceramic y saradic. But what's what's the difference 2:58:08.320 --> 2:58:12.360 with the other bottles. That's the big boy one. I'm 2:58:12.400 --> 2:58:15.000 trying to help the process know what is crazy. The 2:58:15.040 --> 2:58:17.400 other bottle was black, right, right, and then we had 2:58:17.440 --> 2:58:20.039 a blue one, I think, or no, listen, both we. 2:58:20.160 --> 2:58:21.680 Try to represent all the human families. 2:58:24.640 --> 2:58:27.880 Family, the blue for the blue pop up the avatar. 2:58:29.879 --> 2:58:33.520 That's the way, the clear one and they. 2:58:32.760 --> 2:58:35.480 Yellow one right, the other one kind of yellowish. Why 2:58:35.560 --> 2:58:37.240 you're not family out? 2:58:37.440 --> 2:58:40.959 We have to wait what's supposed to We have one 2:58:41.000 --> 2:58:49.560 more left, We have several several see the pretty Yeah, 2:58:49.640 --> 2:58:53.080 so I ain't gonna love this ship got me nice. 2:58:52.879 --> 2:58:56.760 But like like you're not sweepy. This is like shrew 2:58:56.920 --> 2:59:00.360 but you're like but not really something you know what's 2:59:00.360 --> 2:59:04.320 so crazy? We all drank and we d because that's 2:59:04.320 --> 2:59:04.560 what we. 2:59:04.600 --> 2:59:07.680 Do, right. But if you call a drink, honestly, bro, 2:59:08.280 --> 2:59:10.600 you better all drink and shake is. 2:59:10.560 --> 2:59:11.080 A great drink. 2:59:11.120 --> 2:59:14.200 It's a better it's better for the which one's not 2:59:14.240 --> 2:59:15.400 saying that one. 2:59:18.080 --> 2:59:18.640 You're saying that's not. 2:59:22.560 --> 2:59:25.440 What's this one? That's that's the's the aliens. This is 2:59:26.320 --> 2:59:33.480 that's the future we have that we all version because 2:59:33.480 --> 2:59:37.360 that's the big boy. Holds up this is that's a 2:59:37.400 --> 2:59:45.800 big boy listen because it's ceramic. Yah suspense. Also, look 2:59:45.800 --> 2:59:47.880 at that top. Look at the top, bro, That top 2:59:48.040 --> 2:59:49.960 is like that's how you know what I mean? Like 2:59:50.440 --> 2:59:54.080 that's like a nice right there. She opened it. 2:59:55.320 --> 2:59:59.360 They go like this, let me, I'm glad you asked 2:59:59.800 --> 3:00:02.520 man brother that she was till. 3:00:02.400 --> 3:00:09.080 The dog like that. Okay, anyway, hold on, we're not 3:00:09.200 --> 3:00:12.240 marketing this ship. We're drinking it. But okay, we've been 3:00:12.320 --> 3:00:15.680 through some bottles. This bottle just came out recently. I've 3:00:15.680 --> 3:00:17.080 been drinking this for a couple of years, since we 3:00:17.200 --> 3:00:20.440 was in Paris. Man, they know we drunk this in Paris, 3:00:21.080 --> 3:00:25.840 but I don't. This is Paris. You might have been 3:00:26.080 --> 3:00:28.800 one of these. Okay, yeah, but you told me when 3:00:28.800 --> 3:00:30.600 I saw you and raised wed and he was like, yo, 3:00:30.760 --> 3:00:34.880 you fucked me up with that, so good. I said, 3:00:35.080 --> 3:00:37.120 to suck him up again. And then we decided to 3:00:37.160 --> 3:00:39.440 do when when my time allowed me to be here 3:00:39.440 --> 3:00:41.320 and blessed with and you guys have blessed me to 3:00:45.160 --> 3:00:47.000 let's hit that ceramic. Come on, I was like, we're 3:00:47.000 --> 3:00:49.480 going with Saki. So here goes to Saki, the ceramics, 3:00:49.680 --> 3:00:51.640 the long version. You're gonna have to pull this. This 3:00:51.800 --> 3:00:52.240 is the bump. 3:00:52.640 --> 3:00:54.560 Make sure all our cops are clin called the Bangie. 3:00:55.360 --> 3:00:58.160 Just bunk, no, no, no, listen, it's called heaven sake, 3:00:59.240 --> 3:01:04.000 that for Rammic gotta be called the Bangie. Okay, anybody 3:01:04.040 --> 3:01:06.680 out there who works for that company yes, he's just 3:01:07.120 --> 3:01:11.320 he renamed it. Yes, bankie, yeah, let me take that. 3:01:11.400 --> 3:01:15.600 But real quick, you want to quake, right, we read 3:01:15.760 --> 3:01:18.039 read the word, just just read the world. 3:01:17.920 --> 3:01:20.960 With the name of the brand with his brother Heaven's Sake, 3:01:21.200 --> 3:01:23.880 and he said it, say again, Heaven's Sake. 3:01:24.160 --> 3:01:27.200 He said Heaven's Sake or heaven Saki. Right. So there's 3:01:27.240 --> 3:01:29.760 a song on the Wood Tang album that's called Heaven's Sake. 3:01:30.160 --> 3:01:32.440 Oh heaven sonk No. 3:01:32.600 --> 3:01:34.640 So when I saw this. When I saw it, I 3:01:34.800 --> 3:01:42.120 was like, he's right. Now, you say it wrong, you 3:01:42.160 --> 3:01:47.160 said it right. They're gonna suck that up and it's 3:01:47.160 --> 3:01:51.400 gonna be like your son, what is that ship? 3:01:51.480 --> 3:01:55.920 So all right, if we make it that, I'll be 3:01:56.040 --> 3:01:57.080 excited about this one. 3:01:57.440 --> 3:02:00.120 Because mister Lee couldn't find it at all. But let 3:02:00.160 --> 3:02:04.640 me fine if someone brought somebody brought it to him. Alright, cool. 3:02:06.400 --> 3:02:20.800 Japanese brother, he's on camera. He gleat you want he said, 3:02:20.800 --> 3:02:21.440 I don't know something. 3:02:22.600 --> 3:02:27.520 You know, I'm so crazy about Japanese language. If you 3:02:27.600 --> 3:02:31.120 can't remember Japanese language, the best thing to do is 3:02:31.200 --> 3:02:34.000 to try to take the word and make it an 3:02:34.080 --> 3:02:39.800 English sentence like a he got though, thank you, I mean, 3:02:39.920 --> 3:02:42.280 thank you, right, But how would you flip that? He 3:02:42.360 --> 3:02:48.320 got those? He got those? I don't know how you 3:02:48.360 --> 3:02:49.840 got those from me? I said, you gotta let I 3:02:49.879 --> 3:02:58.000 got those, man, I got those another one he said, uh, 3:02:58.480 --> 3:03:02.480 you you need can eat you are? Okay? How do 3:03:02.520 --> 3:03:11.440 we flip out? Go to a girl? Oh my god? Yeah? 3:03:11.480 --> 3:03:14.280 And then you said, no, oh you know what I 3:03:14.360 --> 3:03:15.600 just said. I don't think I all said on the 3:03:15.600 --> 3:03:20.280 mic ahead again, yeah yeah for canichi CANi can hold 3:03:20.320 --> 3:03:27.560 on canchi? Wahni? Can I eat you all? Can I 3:03:27.600 --> 3:03:27.840 eat you? 3:03:30.720 --> 3:03:31.520 Can eat you out? 3:03:35.120 --> 3:03:42.280 I don't know, man, help me remember the words. Sorry, 3:03:42.360 --> 3:03:44.760 not to shign, not up, sorry, not tonight, you know, 3:03:45.080 --> 3:03:51.800 sign not tonight, sign not tonight anyway. No, that's bad. 3:03:52.480 --> 3:03:53.080 Cut that out. 3:03:56.560 --> 3:03:57.200 Take it serious. 3:03:58.240 --> 3:04:05.720 All our first ceramics drinking expensive whiskey. I drink expensive ship. 3:04:05.640 --> 3:04:07.040 And where do we get the ceramics from. 3:04:07.600 --> 3:04:10.920 We're gonna make it to you like this. I'm gonna 3:04:10.920 --> 3:04:15.160 tell you like this smells a little stronger than the 3:04:15.280 --> 3:04:19.000 other one smells sweeter. Actually I smell sweetness, but I 3:04:19.040 --> 3:04:22.440 smell that strongness as well. Let me try, all right, 3:04:23.040 --> 3:04:23.800 tell me what you feel? 3:04:23.840 --> 3:04:27.920 Do you feel the karate kids out of you. I'm 3:04:27.920 --> 3:04:32.920 going second small man, man, it smells stronger. 3:04:34.680 --> 3:04:40.200 Wait a minute, that's good. Let me Can I sell 3:04:40.200 --> 3:04:43.120 you a cat around my heart? Right now? That's nice. 3:04:44.800 --> 3:04:46.800 Let's tell the audience something. When we were first talking 3:04:46.800 --> 3:04:49.360 about doing this episode, we go to Ja, wanted to 3:04:49.400 --> 3:04:50.760 go to Japan and we're so. 3:04:50.959 --> 3:04:53.240 Hyped about hold on, can I invite you to Japan? 3:04:53.440 --> 3:04:56.840 Yes? Holoit that said the name this? Yeah, I like 3:04:56.879 --> 3:05:01.640 that he understood. That's you, Jeremy. I know what I'm saying. 3:05:02.280 --> 3:05:05.360 Can I invite you guys with your parents if you 3:05:05.480 --> 3:05:09.040 ever invite me back to the show. This is your home. Now, 3:05:09.840 --> 3:05:12.320 we gotta go to Japan one, okay, please, let's we're 3:05:12.320 --> 3:05:16.960 gonna I'm gonna special drinks, yo. We gotta make that happen. Yeah, 3:05:17.040 --> 3:05:21.240 please all right, bump bump please. So Drake Champions is 3:05:21.280 --> 3:05:26.520 one of the top and pioneering hip hop podcast of 3:05:27.080 --> 3:05:29.720 it all. When I'm happy that you sparked so many 3:05:29.760 --> 3:05:31.720 other brothers and a lot of brothers are eating well 3:05:31.760 --> 3:05:34.520 because of you. Yes, you know what I mean. May 3:05:34.560 --> 3:05:41.280 you be eating well as the thing? Yes? Yes? And 3:05:42.240 --> 3:05:43.760 now it's a privilege for me to be here in 3:05:43.800 --> 3:05:46.160 the honor. I'm glad I decided to funk with you. 3:05:46.680 --> 3:05:49.320 You know, one thing happened to me too. I can talk, 3:05:49.520 --> 3:05:53.240 so you know, I took my shahada, right, even though 3:05:53.920 --> 3:05:59.760 I got nas herself already. You nas yourself already? Yeah, 3:06:00.600 --> 3:06:03.280 when you have so now the self. In my days, 3:06:03.280 --> 3:06:05.240 they make you fast three days before they gave you 3:06:05.320 --> 3:06:08.560 the lessons lessons of the five cent Yes, yes, usually 3:06:08.640 --> 3:06:11.440 fast three days. Yeah. So so what's the difference from 3:06:11.800 --> 3:06:14.280 taking your shahada because fast and three days and getting 3:06:14.280 --> 3:06:16.680 the lessons, Well, you're talking about the one twenty lesons, yeah, 3:06:16.680 --> 3:06:18.680 one hundred twenty lessons, right. I had a faster three 3:06:18.720 --> 3:06:21.440 days and I got that, but then without did the shahada. Right, 3:06:22.120 --> 3:06:24.520 First of all, my lesson said, the lesson says that 3:06:24.920 --> 3:06:27.280 what is your own self? What is what is your 3:06:27.360 --> 3:06:31.360 own self? And they were speaking primarily to the Latins, 3:06:32.360 --> 3:06:35.800 the Native Americans, and the black men of America who 3:06:37.560 --> 3:06:40.240 kind of was lost from ourselves? Is that where they 3:06:40.280 --> 3:06:43.080 said that the Asiatic black man? Yeah, the Asiatic meeting 3:06:43.160 --> 3:06:46.720 that life itself was more origin in Asia. At one 3:06:46.720 --> 3:06:49.480 point the whole planet was called Asia, but it wasn't 3:06:49.600 --> 3:06:52.480 called Africa. Africa's more of a later name, maybe two 3:06:52.520 --> 3:06:54.600 thousand years old at best, maybe fifteen hundred years old 3:06:54.600 --> 3:06:59.760 before the continents moved. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was 3:06:59.800 --> 3:07:02.440 just Asia. Just means land, right, right, right, and so 3:07:02.520 --> 3:07:05.720 everything was land before we start paying borders. But it's 3:07:05.760 --> 3:07:13.880 said that our own selves are righteous Muslims, then what 3:07:13.959 --> 3:07:18.440 do that mean? Would you consider yourself righteous? Earfing? Or 3:07:18.560 --> 3:07:21.600 you try to be righteous? You try to be righteous 3:07:22.080 --> 3:07:25.360 and I strive to be righteous, okay. And the word 3:07:25.480 --> 3:07:30.360 Muslim me mousalim, meaning either one from the city or 3:07:30.400 --> 3:07:34.880 from the idea of peace. So basically you could translate 3:07:34.879 --> 3:07:37.680 the word Muslim to a man of peace. Do you 3:07:37.720 --> 3:07:39.880 feel like you're a man of peace? Do you feel 3:07:39.879 --> 3:07:41.120 like you're a man of peace? I feel like I'm 3:07:41.120 --> 3:07:44.280 a man. So one of our strivings is to be 3:07:44.400 --> 3:07:48.600 a righteous man of peace. And because that's one of 3:07:48.640 --> 3:07:56.280 our strivings, right, because that's our physical presence, it's healthy 3:07:56.440 --> 3:07:59.680 for us to acknowledge that. Right. So when I took 3:07:59.720 --> 3:08:02.480 this how to, I took I did knowledge to that 3:08:02.520 --> 3:08:06.760 because my lesson already described who I was. Now, then 3:08:06.800 --> 3:08:08.400 some people some people hit me up there, yo, why 3:08:08.400 --> 3:08:12.520 are you drinking? Bro? You know what I mean? Yeah, okay, 3:08:12.840 --> 3:08:14.120 And I just said to them, and I want to 3:08:14.520 --> 3:08:16.600 I just say, at the end of the day, you know, 3:08:17.240 --> 3:08:19.760 my straw is my straw, you know what I mean. 3:08:20.280 --> 3:08:22.120 I'm sure there'll come a time I won't drink, I 3:08:22.160 --> 3:08:26.480 start smoking, and I'll continue to become as more. It's 3:08:26.520 --> 3:08:28.600 acting more advices as I can, you know what I mean. 3:08:29.160 --> 3:08:31.840 But as I moved to my entertainment world and dealing 3:08:31.879 --> 3:08:34.760 with these things, I actually don't drink before I go 3:08:34.840 --> 3:08:38.360 on stage before I drunk every time. So everything is 3:08:39.040 --> 3:08:41.520 getting better and better, and that's the goal of it, 3:08:41.640 --> 3:08:45.680 to have a path to get better and better. Now. Also, 3:08:45.760 --> 3:08:52.400 I'm a Shalin disciple, and so Shain was founded or 3:08:52.879 --> 3:08:55.840 brought to the surface by a man named Body Dama. 3:08:57.640 --> 3:09:01.200 And Body Dama, yeah, he drunk wine. And that's why 3:09:01.240 --> 3:09:06.000 you have a drunk Buddha, a laughing Buddha, drunken, sleeping Buddha. 3:09:06.080 --> 3:09:08.320 You got all these different things because these are all 3:09:08.400 --> 3:09:10.320 different expressions of what a man might have to go 3:09:10.480 --> 3:09:14.200 through to find enlightenment. Mm hmm. So our lessons teach 3:09:14.320 --> 3:09:16.920 us that we are by nature we should be righteous, 3:09:16.959 --> 3:09:19.600 and we should be a men of peace. But Bodhi 3:09:19.720 --> 3:09:23.680 Dhama means enlightened righteousness. 3:09:24.440 --> 3:09:24.959 Mm hmm. 3:09:27.440 --> 3:09:29.600 Enlighten. So now you could be righteous, but how about 3:09:29.760 --> 3:09:34.200 enlightened righteousness? And so do my Chilentce studies. That's what 3:09:34.320 --> 3:09:36.520 I was strong to be. You look at the ris, 3:09:37.240 --> 3:09:42.760 may you see enlightened righteousness. That's striving for peace. I 3:09:42.840 --> 3:09:48.720 just want to share that with your brothers. All right. Now, 3:09:48.800 --> 3:09:51.280 there's a rumor that to come see you, you gotta 3:09:51.320 --> 3:09:54.360 walk up one hundred steps to come see us. I 3:09:54.400 --> 3:10:02.680 told you that my other studio, my other studio. Did 3:10:02.720 --> 3:10:08.800 you create the other studio? I call the studios temples 3:10:09.480 --> 3:10:11.440 the other studio. Yeah, you have to walk off these stirs. 3:10:11.440 --> 3:10:13.920 When you get up there, you be out of breath. Bro, 3:10:15.160 --> 3:10:17.360 if I should give you one story, you should edit 3:10:17.440 --> 3:10:19.800 about that. But when you walk up the studio steps, 3:10:20.280 --> 3:10:23.000 you get there, you're out of breath. And that's that. 3:10:23.160 --> 3:10:25.320 But but then I've got to be and my wife 3:10:25.360 --> 3:10:29.200 bought another spot and we built the studio there in 3:10:29.320 --> 3:10:31.400 this studio. Now you got to walk down one hundred 3:10:31.400 --> 3:10:35.480 and twenty steps. The gag is you could walk down 3:10:35.520 --> 3:10:39.840 one hundred and twenty you're not going to say it 3:10:39.920 --> 3:10:44.520 makes you not want to leave. It makes you not 3:10:44.600 --> 3:10:46.880 want to leave. But what quick store you can edit 3:10:46.920 --> 3:10:48.440 the center because we dragging it. Let me know, we 3:10:48.480 --> 3:10:51.280 went out of time. There's no time, okay for you? 3:10:51.400 --> 3:10:53.680 All right? So y'all so so so yeah, So I 3:10:53.760 --> 3:10:56.560 have a studio that's way up. The studio I had 3:10:56.640 --> 3:10:58.960 was built up one hundred and twenty steps. And you know, 3:10:59.040 --> 3:11:01.320 when bus came through, he did the one twenty. Nds 3:11:01.360 --> 3:11:03.320 came through, he did the one twenty. You know, the 3:11:03.959 --> 3:11:08.480 whatever whoever came through did the one twenty right, and uh, 3:11:08.840 --> 3:11:11.000 you know, you get up the out of breath. I 3:11:11.160 --> 3:11:14.440 did a song with my brother, my hero, my wife's hero, 3:11:16.000 --> 3:11:17.960 Sly from Sly and the Family. 3:11:20.240 --> 3:11:22.280 So Slotstone comes to do a. 3:11:22.320 --> 3:11:25.120 Song on doing this thing called Athos Samurai and I 3:11:25.200 --> 3:11:27.440 want to do a song. I wanted to remake family 3:11:27.520 --> 3:11:31.360 affair and my wife is the big slot famn like baby, 3:11:34.080 --> 3:11:35.760 I think I got. I talked to George Clinton and 3:11:35.840 --> 3:11:39.119 he's going to bring Sly to the studio. We're gonna 3:11:39.120 --> 3:11:42.640 do that song over. It's like cool, all right, so 3:11:42.800 --> 3:11:48.720 now we you know, but Sly is quite adamant if 3:11:48.720 --> 3:11:51.360 you're going to do this session. He needs at least 3:11:51.400 --> 3:11:54.320 half the cheese up front, right, you know what I mean. 3:11:54.400 --> 3:11:59.480 I'm cool with that. Bam milama, here's half the cheese. Okay. 3:12:00.240 --> 3:12:09.600 He comes to the sessions and it's those steps and 3:12:09.760 --> 3:12:14.040 you know, so he wants the second half, but you 3:12:14.120 --> 3:12:17.360 gotta hit these steps, right, So he so, and he 3:12:17.440 --> 3:12:20.280 has this gentleman with him, this gentleman he had, well 3:12:20.320 --> 3:12:22.320 I can't really describe this gentleman. This gentleman kind of 3:12:22.440 --> 3:12:24.920 like he was bullheaded, but he had like a string 3:12:25.000 --> 3:12:27.880 of here that hung off the side and ship I 3:12:27.920 --> 3:12:31.120 couldn't like a monk. He wasn't a monk though, like 3:12:31.200 --> 3:12:33.800 a month like a monk. Like that's some Veby Bebby 3:12:33.920 --> 3:12:37.160 Bebby unique individual like I don't I don't know what 3:12:37.280 --> 3:12:39.039 that what that was, but remember they. 3:12:39.000 --> 3:12:44.320 Come from an era. They come from the psychedelic. 3:12:45.560 --> 3:12:49.360 He might have been psychedelic. That was a second. Yeah. 3:12:49.959 --> 3:12:53.360 And I met him at Slye House and then Slide 3:12:53.400 --> 3:12:55.560 pulls up to him, like I said, the studio and 3:12:55.720 --> 3:13:00.120 Slide has this van that's like his personal van he 3:13:00.400 --> 3:13:04.520 like when he travels this this van has a bad bathroom. 3:13:05.440 --> 3:13:09.720 It's a schoofy doo type van. Good, right, and so 3:13:09.920 --> 3:13:12.440 he's like, yo, I mean, I don't know where He's like, 3:13:12.480 --> 3:13:16.280 I'm in the studio, but I'm waiting for him. But 3:13:16.320 --> 3:13:19.400 he never comes up. And then all of a sudden, 3:13:19.920 --> 3:13:24.440 the guy with the one bomb car Yeah, no, no, 3:13:24.600 --> 3:13:28.440 he shows up. He knocks on the door. He open up, like, hey, 3:13:28.920 --> 3:13:32.120 what's sly At? He's like's on hundred twenty steps. He's 3:13:32.200 --> 3:13:39.840 like brother Rizza. Brother Sly was wondering could he get 3:13:39.879 --> 3:13:46.959 the rest of the advanced before he comes up. I'm like, yeah, yeah, 3:13:47.000 --> 3:13:49.160 whatever whatever, you know what I mean, Let's tell about 3:13:49.160 --> 3:13:51.640 the Slide to come on up. We'll do the song 3:13:51.760 --> 3:13:54.400 we got there advancing. It'll be all good. It'll tell 3:13:54.480 --> 3:13:57.080 him come on up. He's like okay, So now he 3:13:57.160 --> 3:14:03.440 has to go back down. He goes down, comes back 3:14:03.520 --> 3:14:16.680 up again. No, Sly, no slop. Brother slaes wonder if 3:14:16.680 --> 3:14:25.320 you can at least give me a portion before he 3:14:25.440 --> 3:14:32.440 comes up. I'm like, I'm smoking too, Like how much? 3:14:33.480 --> 3:14:35.640 You know what I mean? Like, I tell Brother Slid, 3:14:35.720 --> 3:14:38.000 do have some cash here? It's just you know, I 3:14:38.040 --> 3:14:40.720 don't really keep cashing you, but I do have some 3:14:40.879 --> 3:14:43.200 cash here. Because you ask Brother Slide like how much 3:14:43.320 --> 3:14:49.760 cash would be cool to get him up here. And 3:14:49.920 --> 3:15:02.680 he goes down again, comes back the It's like out 3:15:02.720 --> 3:15:10.040 of the raft. He told me the number though, fire down, 3:15:10.360 --> 3:15:13.880 you know what I man. I'm like, shit, I don't 3:15:13.879 --> 3:15:16.840 really got fired down. Twenty five hundred cash right right 3:15:17.320 --> 3:15:19.520 right there. I don't know Shapo had it. Somebody had 3:15:19.560 --> 3:15:21.960 it and my guy who there twenty But tell brother 3:15:22.080 --> 3:15:28.960 Slop we got you know, twenty fived. Whatever he goes, 3:15:29.160 --> 3:15:30.800 he comes back with him in full time though, you 3:15:30.840 --> 3:15:31.240 know what I mean. 3:15:31.879 --> 3:15:34.320 But the point of the story is that those steps, 3:15:34.600 --> 3:15:35.160 you know what I mean? 3:15:35.320 --> 3:15:39.400 Serious? Yeah, it means you coming to work, come to 3:15:39.480 --> 3:15:42.320 get something. He's working, he's working, and brother Slot came 3:15:42.400 --> 3:15:46.880 up sat I had a rolls piano and he sat 3:15:46.959 --> 3:15:51.840 there bro and he played. It's a family, a fan, 3:15:52.400 --> 3:15:56.760 it's something that ship and I don't know. You never 3:15:56.800 --> 3:15:58.880 come to the studio like that. She comes. When she 3:15:58.920 --> 3:16:04.400 comes by, I was like, step everything, Okay, the studio. 3:16:04.840 --> 3:16:06.440 If she comes to the studio, she's coming to flush 3:16:06.480 --> 3:16:09.000 every day down the toilet right right right, Okay, Okay, 3:16:10.680 --> 3:16:12.280 it's the old days. I don't gus, I don't smoke 3:16:12.280 --> 3:16:14.960 on drinking. I'm not drink. I don't smoke nothing but 3:16:15.120 --> 3:16:16.640 the old days. You're gonna come to my studio and 3:16:16.680 --> 3:16:18.600 I'll mindset that is with you and you can throw 3:16:18.600 --> 3:16:20.360 it in the garbage or you can keep it. Keep it. 3:16:20.360 --> 3:16:23.120 If you came to my studio, bro, no matter what 3:16:23.280 --> 3:16:25.160 you did, it's in the cabinet. 3:16:25.879 --> 3:16:28.480 I don't do everything you do. Oh you say like 3:16:28.560 --> 3:16:31.160 all the bad habits, No matter what you if you say. 3:16:31.080 --> 3:16:36.560 Yo wiz, all I do is eat monkey, monkey, ship, 3:16:36.720 --> 3:16:39.360 but soapin piss. It's in the I got a job 3:16:39.480 --> 3:16:43.920 for you. If you come to the studio. I got 3:16:43.959 --> 3:16:47.160 you covered, bro. I got dudes that came. They had 3:16:47.240 --> 3:16:53.560 no session. They do that because the studio somethingsion the Hey, 3:16:53.800 --> 3:16:55.600 they walk into a hundred and twenty steps. They walk 3:16:55.959 --> 3:17:02.000 twenty steps. So if she came up at home and 3:17:02.360 --> 3:17:04.960 all that shit is there, all that shit goes in 3:17:05.080 --> 3:17:08.280 the toilet, in the garbage, because that's not healthy for us. 3:17:08.520 --> 3:17:11.720 She always was promoting health for us, consciousness and health 3:17:12.200 --> 3:17:14.840 and ship, so she'd come throw it out. All the 3:17:14.879 --> 3:17:17.360 guys are calling, go yo, shit, what happened? That's my 3:17:17.400 --> 3:17:21.760 wife came up and ship. Don't worry. Twenty four hours, 3:17:21.800 --> 3:17:25.680 I'll be restocked, so brother, but Brother Slide comes up 3:17:26.640 --> 3:17:33.520 and I'm like, yo, let me call downstairs. Having come up, 3:17:34.440 --> 3:17:38.000 and I called downstairs and she came up and watched 3:17:38.040 --> 3:17:40.240 Brother Slide performed this song. 3:17:40.400 --> 3:17:40.520 Yo. 3:17:41.080 --> 3:17:42.680 So you don't have an elevator on the side of 3:17:42.720 --> 3:17:45.520 the steps, well you need a zip line. If you 3:17:46.080 --> 3:17:50.240 like it's crazy, it's deep, it's all elevated there. Oh okay, 3:17:50.720 --> 3:17:52.840 I don't remember how Buster told me the story. How 3:17:52.879 --> 3:17:54.720 did you know that Buster told me that story, because 3:17:54.760 --> 3:17:57.440 when he came up the stairs, he was like, yo. 3:18:01.959 --> 3:18:06.200 He was like, yo, see like you serious about that phone. 3:18:08.840 --> 3:18:13.320 You're so Buster, You're so real white notice temple shit. Lord. 3:18:16.320 --> 3:18:19.360 He was like, it's a one time visit. 3:18:19.480 --> 3:18:25.320 Lord he was. But I had that yellow machine though 3:18:26.120 --> 3:18:29.520 they had mad He was like empty that motherfucker. I 3:18:29.640 --> 3:18:34.320 emptied it for oh shit, this listen. How we doing? 3:18:34.360 --> 3:18:38.280 How we doing that? We great fish? Hold on, I'll 3:18:38.280 --> 3:18:41.920 try this. I got this liquids swars Or returned to 3:18:42.000 --> 3:18:47.080 the thirty six chambers a fifty minute time on them. Okay, okay, 3:18:47.160 --> 3:18:48.480 Oh I got to like the movie too. I've been 3:18:48.520 --> 3:18:50.480 been a twenty minute timer. I didn't do the movie. 3:18:50.520 --> 3:18:52.800 We do the movie all right, cool, okay, So liquid 3:18:52.840 --> 3:18:55.760 swars or return to the thirty six chambers in which way? 3:18:56.080 --> 3:19:02.320 Whichever way you I mean, I think that's fair easy one, 3:19:04.240 --> 3:19:07.200 Oh it's hard. Well, well that's what I said. I 3:19:07.200 --> 3:19:11.160 said on which way? They both are two unique things, right. 3:19:12.000 --> 3:19:13.560 But if you want to be like like in the 3:19:13.640 --> 3:19:18.680 hip hop canaan, people gonna say liquids wards. Right. But 3:19:19.720 --> 3:19:23.480 the thing that O d B did and and and 3:19:23.560 --> 3:19:26.240 that this is trying to make my answers shorter. It 3:19:26.280 --> 3:19:27.960 should like you canna put a two minute time on me? 3:19:28.240 --> 3:19:30.960 You're good, right. The thing that od B did, which 3:19:30.959 --> 3:19:34.400 people don't realize od ODIB made the first hip hop 3:19:34.480 --> 3:19:41.920 comedy album. I thought, okay about that, Okay, Okay, I'll 3:19:41.959 --> 3:19:44.120 say Biz is the father. You're right? Okay? Yeah, so 3:19:44.240 --> 3:19:49.400 od b od B modern, he brought it to the tradition. Yeah, 3:19:50.120 --> 3:19:52.840 I'm his short is almost Richard Priory, you know what 3:19:52.840 --> 3:19:57.400 I mean. And and and for me creating it with him, 3:19:58.640 --> 3:20:02.800 you know, it was like intentional. One of the best 3:20:02.840 --> 3:20:06.280 beats on the album to me was called going Down 3:20:07.440 --> 3:20:11.640 and that beat was actually for Havoc and Ship would 3:20:11.720 --> 3:20:13.640 have it because Steven, like, could you help produce mob 3:20:13.720 --> 3:20:16.320 Deep album and then I met Havoc before. But but 3:20:16.400 --> 3:20:18.480 then when we met in the office that day, I 3:20:18.560 --> 3:20:21.119 was like, you don't need me, gud, Let's do it yourself, 3:20:21.280 --> 3:20:23.960 like the same thing what you call or told me 3:20:25.080 --> 3:20:29.440 daddy O. I said to him, like, produce all your own. Yeah, yes, 3:20:29.520 --> 3:20:31.760 that's in bunk bong. He made some of the best 3:20:31.800 --> 3:20:35.600 shiits in history, right, but I still had but I 3:20:35.800 --> 3:20:40.480 promised on one and it was this track called going Down. 3:20:41.120 --> 3:20:45.160 But then, oh, d beasts, I wanted, that's not how 3:20:45.160 --> 3:20:47.800 I got you have you want. But in the middle 3:20:47.800 --> 3:20:53.520 of that track, he's his wisdy. They upstairs cooking fish 3:20:54.160 --> 3:20:56.760 up in the upstairs and they and they and they 3:20:56.920 --> 3:21:00.520 cook and ship and were down the studio. He's like, yo, 3:21:00.600 --> 3:21:06.240 god uh, I want to do something crazy in the middle, 3:21:06.680 --> 3:21:08.200 so what I want my whirs to come down and 3:21:08.360 --> 3:21:14.520 argue with me. I said, that's genius. So I said, Yo, 3:21:14.920 --> 3:21:17.600 come down, Damn you guys gonna get too an argument. 3:21:17.680 --> 3:21:21.279 I'm gonna record this ship And they record an argument. 3:21:21.680 --> 3:21:23.960 But there was a real argument. I mean good enough, 3:21:26.959 --> 3:21:29.760 good enough though, like me and Actlan And then the 3:21:29.879 --> 3:21:33.520 gag was in the middle of that argument, He's gonna 3:21:33.560 --> 3:21:39.280 sing somewhere over the rainbow, and he doesn't. And that's 3:21:39.320 --> 3:21:42.480 in the middle of a song, so so so that 3:21:42.640 --> 3:21:45.320 so no other album can do that, and then and 3:21:45.400 --> 3:21:49.119 the whole can. So ODB brought something to the table 3:21:49.200 --> 3:21:53.680 that's crazily unique and and like he said, it was new, 3:21:53.959 --> 3:21:54.680 a new chamber. 3:21:54.879 --> 3:21:57.640 So how often did he do that? Did he insert 3:21:57.760 --> 3:21:59.800 his vision on the tracks for his. 3:22:00.320 --> 3:22:02.920 I mean know for me and him? Yes, he like 3:22:03.360 --> 3:22:07.920 like like there's times where as the abbot I demand 3:22:07.959 --> 3:22:10.680 what he do, right because I because I would have 3:22:10.720 --> 3:22:12.480 that position, I canna SAYO, you're going to do this? 3:22:13.160 --> 3:22:15.880 They promised that give me five years of saying I 3:22:15.959 --> 3:22:19.120 can say whatever I want to say, right, everybody agreed, 3:22:19.400 --> 3:22:20.720 So it was time I told him do this to 3:22:20.800 --> 3:22:23.840 know this like, this is the track stump. He made 3:22:23.920 --> 3:22:27.120 that track and then gave it to me to finish. Wow, 3:22:28.200 --> 3:22:30.640 I mean, I said, yo, go buy a saw. He 3:22:30.680 --> 3:22:32.600 bought an asol. He only made four beats in his 3:22:32.680 --> 3:22:38.760 whole life because he really wasn't that patient, right, you 3:22:38.840 --> 3:22:40.920 know what I mean? But he made that track stump, 3:22:41.280 --> 3:22:42.680 you know what I mean. I just add the Purans 3:22:42.720 --> 3:22:45.720 and some other shit to it. But that's so. That's that. 3:22:45.840 --> 3:22:46.000 You know. 3:22:46.240 --> 3:22:49.080 He was very involved with his album. But certain things 3:22:49.120 --> 3:22:50.440 I was like, Nah, you're doing this, you're doing that. 3:22:50.520 --> 3:22:52.280 I need this, or remember that song you did when 3:22:52.280 --> 3:22:54.680 you was a kid. I need this. But when he 3:22:54.920 --> 3:22:58.000 when you hear us say he has one song where 3:22:58.000 --> 3:22:59.920 he does the same, he has two songs on the 3:23:00.080 --> 3:23:05.160 album and they they both got the same verse, the 3:23:05.240 --> 3:23:11.000 exact same verse on two separate songs on the same album. 3:23:12.160 --> 3:23:15.520 It's called damn It. He does the same rhyme on 3:23:16.640 --> 3:23:18.960 three songs. If you really check it, he dos a 3:23:19.000 --> 3:23:24.560 piece of it for another song. What he said, Yo, God, 3:23:24.640 --> 3:23:28.000 trust me. That's all right, I trust you. 3:23:28.640 --> 3:23:31.400 When he did shame on the Nigga, he came in 3:23:31.600 --> 3:23:32.760 so late in the studios. 3:23:32.920 --> 3:23:36.000 I was angry. I said, when you say the fuck 3:23:36.040 --> 3:23:37.920 that God was? They had the bitch with him and ship, 3:23:39.280 --> 3:23:41.680 Yo God, just trying to mic on because it is 3:23:41.840 --> 3:23:44.040 my cousin, and you know if I go at it 3:23:44.160 --> 3:23:46.480 it will be a two hour argument. Then Wenna get 3:23:46.520 --> 3:23:48.600 to work. He's like, let me turn the mic on 3:23:49.160 --> 3:23:51.840 on the who went in there in one take Nigga? 3:23:51.920 --> 3:23:55.800 He did that song wow, same on the Nigga to 3:23:55.840 --> 3:23:59.560 try the one game on a nigga bow. I was like, 3:23:59.640 --> 3:24:02.720 now fit finish the hook. God, nah, nigga, that's finished. 3:24:03.840 --> 3:24:06.520 I said, how you didn't say everything? They gonna love it. 3:24:09.600 --> 3:24:13.560 I'm like, I kept it. I believe them. Did you 3:24:13.640 --> 3:24:18.400 really believe them? Though? Yes, okay, I told I believe it. 3:24:18.520 --> 3:24:20.560 I totally believe them. Take a shot of all the 3:24:21.680 --> 3:24:26.240 rest in peace. So let me let me tell you something. 3:24:26.520 --> 3:24:28.600 As a person that knew you for a long time, 3:24:29.520 --> 3:24:32.280 the one time I felt like this is me as 3:24:32.320 --> 3:24:37.320 an outsider looking at I felt the uncomfortable situation was 3:24:37.360 --> 3:24:42.760 when I seen you dirty and Dame dash together right like, 3:24:43.840 --> 3:24:45.520 like I ain't gonna lie like you know what I mean. 3:24:46.920 --> 3:24:49.440 You saw my uncomfortability like a mother. I saw it 3:24:49.560 --> 3:24:52.640 because you know, I just one. I'm an artist. I'm 3:24:52.760 --> 3:24:55.280 in the industry, and I'm watching this through BT right, 3:24:55.360 --> 3:24:57.040 so I'm not It's not like like it's not no 3:24:57.160 --> 3:25:00.440 inside information. I'm actually watching this with the people. But 3:25:00.560 --> 3:25:03.200 I think that you knew that he didn't belong there, 3:25:03.360 --> 3:25:05.320 or you felt that he didn't belong there. But she 3:25:05.440 --> 3:25:09.160 was respecting your cousin's decision, and he was respecting your 3:25:09.360 --> 3:25:12.920 artists because in this game is frowned upon to keep 3:25:13.240 --> 3:25:16.040 keep somebody right. So you you so you so I 3:25:16.200 --> 3:25:18.520 saw you let him go, but then I saw you 3:25:18.680 --> 3:25:20.960 like work with him, but I saw your hurting this 3:25:21.120 --> 3:25:24.039 in your heart. I don't know if I'm acurate with that, y'all. Okay, 3:25:24.080 --> 3:25:26.720 I'm a because like this is me watching on TV, 3:25:27.080 --> 3:25:30.160 and I'm like, I'm like, I'm like that it was bad. Okay. 3:25:30.320 --> 3:25:33.560 The edit made it worse. Okay, Okay, Like in. 3:25:33.600 --> 3:25:35.240 The edit, it just shows me and him in the 3:25:35.280 --> 3:25:35.840 moment with Dame. 3:25:36.440 --> 3:25:38.960 Then it shows me kind of walking out and you 3:25:39.040 --> 3:25:42.200 can see my hurt right in the reality. That ain't 3:25:42.200 --> 3:25:45.640 how it happened, right, And the reality is me and 3:25:45.760 --> 3:25:51.280 him and Dame m and I told a saw yo, 3:25:51.680 --> 3:25:54.480 let me and Dame just talk for a minute. Let 3:25:54.480 --> 3:25:57.200 me let's go ahead. Because he had made the deal 3:25:57.240 --> 3:25:59.640 with Dame in the jail, right yeah, okay, aeah, I'm 3:25:59.640 --> 3:26:01.960 sorry this whole other thing. He didn't make the deal 3:26:02.000 --> 3:26:05.800 with day Oh wow. He had someone have power over 3:26:05.840 --> 3:26:09.120 attorney while he was locked up, and they made the deal. 3:26:10.400 --> 3:26:12.880 But as they say, the games to be sol not told, okay, 3:26:13.920 --> 3:26:19.240 but what Dame said to me, and the part they 3:26:19.400 --> 3:26:23.120 edited out. He said something to me that I couldn't deny. Yo. 3:26:24.120 --> 3:26:33.560 He said, Yo, Ris, your family came to me, you 3:26:33.680 --> 3:26:38.280 meaning Dirty family. The family, Yeah, whoever was representing Dirty 3:26:39.280 --> 3:26:41.720 his family, like we saw you saw that pressed. Everybody 3:26:41.800 --> 3:26:43.720 was there his you know, his mom was there, pop whatever, 3:26:43.760 --> 3:26:46.720 he was there. This is when he came home. He came. Yeah, 3:26:46.760 --> 3:26:49.119 I wasn't there. I had just talked to Dirty already 3:26:49.120 --> 3:26:51.600 had a deal for him, you know what I mean. 3:26:51.959 --> 3:26:53.160 I was like, Yo, when you come up, I had 3:26:53.200 --> 3:26:54.880 a deal on a plan. My deal was like, you 3:26:54.959 --> 3:26:57.640 come home. I built a gym for you. I got 3:26:57.640 --> 3:27:02.080 an apartment in Manhattan, five thousand square feats udio already Okay, 3:27:02.560 --> 3:27:04.119 I would said, Yo, you need a woman. I gotta 3:27:04.160 --> 3:27:06.959 got I got girls. I just send you. I'm serious. 3:27:07.400 --> 3:27:10.880 I was like, Yo, I got you, God, just come home, 3:27:11.879 --> 3:27:15.400 you know what I mean. My shit was maybe nine 3:27:15.440 --> 3:27:17.920 to fifty. I didn't have the M but I had 3:27:17.959 --> 3:27:20.560 to pay a couple of people, all right, but I 3:27:20.640 --> 3:27:23.039 got you. I basically had the same M in all reality, right, 3:27:24.160 --> 3:27:26.600 And he's like cool. And then I flew to Europe 3:27:27.040 --> 3:27:29.280 for a couple of weeks. Last on you know, the 3:27:29.320 --> 3:27:32.760 Wizards to do what he does. And then I found 3:27:32.800 --> 3:27:36.800 out from the press. Wow and so but so anyway, 3:27:36.840 --> 3:27:39.320 so it was sad for me. But when Dame said 3:27:39.440 --> 3:27:42.760 was so real in the world of the reality of life. 3:27:42.800 --> 3:27:48.400 He said, Yo, Chris, nothing loss, it's like to nothing 3:27:48.440 --> 3:27:51.119 to do with you. Your family came to me, oh 3:27:51.240 --> 3:27:53.040 and they take They asked me to ask them what 3:27:53.120 --> 3:27:57.320 they want. They said a million dollars. I said, cool, 3:27:57.520 --> 3:27:59.720 So that difference made the difference, and I was like, 3:28:00.720 --> 3:28:03.959 I don't argue with that. M hm, I can't argue 3:28:04.040 --> 3:28:07.000 with that, right, So then I just asked a sons 3:28:07.040 --> 3:28:09.000 to what you want to do? He said, yo, god, yeah, 3:28:09.080 --> 3:28:11.600 let me do this. You know man, I was like, 3:28:12.879 --> 3:28:14.720 when you so you see seeing me walking out with 3:28:14.760 --> 3:28:18.200 that soggy, sad face. Because it wasn't about the money 3:28:18.280 --> 3:28:20.640 or nothing. I could have said, okay, how about two million, right, 3:28:21.520 --> 3:28:28.120 but I just felt like right, I just felt like, like, 3:28:28.320 --> 3:28:30.440 like you said, it wasn't it wasn't. It didn't belong there, 3:28:31.400 --> 3:28:32.920 you know what I mean. You don't want to be 3:28:32.959 --> 3:28:36.120 a hater, Yeah, I want to be like I'm stopping progress. Yeah, 3:28:36.440 --> 3:28:39.720 they kind of running the game. They got it. They 3:28:39.760 --> 3:28:42.240 shine and bright who won't wanted to be signed to 3:28:42.320 --> 3:28:45.960 rock Fell especially at that time, even you know, yeah, 3:28:46.360 --> 3:28:49.200 git niggas like, yo, that's that's it. You know what 3:28:49.240 --> 3:28:51.959 I mean, It's like, that's what it is. But I'm 3:28:51.959 --> 3:28:54.199 gonna tell you again. You could correct me if I'm wrong, 3:28:54.640 --> 3:28:56.720 But it wasn't that when I've seen it to you, 3:28:58.200 --> 3:29:01.440 it was you you with the wrong not not the 3:29:01.520 --> 3:29:04.600 wrong people meaning like the wrong people, but you I 3:29:04.720 --> 3:29:07.160 know how to make you sound exactly. 3:29:07.320 --> 3:29:09.039 I know, like that's that's what I was taking. 3:29:09.120 --> 3:29:11.320 I was like, damn, I was like, I never said, 3:29:11.560 --> 3:29:12.720 I don't want to say I want to say. I 3:29:12.800 --> 3:29:15.520 want to say. Disappointment maybe is a word like that 3:29:15.640 --> 3:29:18.480 you were. I was super disappointed. Okay if you saw that, 3:29:19.080 --> 3:29:21.440 you know, they say a camera catch right now whatever, 3:29:21.480 --> 3:29:23.760 the camera catch a nigga as well, they say the 3:29:23.840 --> 3:29:25.280 camera see through your bullshit? 3:29:25.560 --> 3:29:27.600 Right because you had a vision. You had a vision 3:29:27.640 --> 3:29:28.400 for what he was gonna do. 3:29:28.959 --> 3:29:29.080 Right. 3:29:29.680 --> 3:29:32.680 My vision wasn't only for his music, was for his life, right, right, 3:29:32.720 --> 3:29:34.920 You had a vision. People don't realize this. And I 3:29:34.920 --> 3:29:36.760 always got to throw something on top of things. You 3:29:36.800 --> 3:29:38.680 know me, as you know me, you know me, I'm 3:29:38.720 --> 3:29:41.720 doing on your whole show, But yo gee, how far 3:29:41.879 --> 3:29:45.720 you become from yourself? So let's say a nigga's two 3:29:45.800 --> 3:29:48.080 hundred pounds and now he's four hundred pounds. How much 3:29:48.160 --> 3:29:50.720 other shit other than himself? And he put on hisself? 3:29:52.280 --> 3:29:54.480 That's what a lesson says. How did he do it? 3:29:54.680 --> 3:29:58.000 It made him other than himself? Once you make you once, 3:29:58.080 --> 3:30:01.600 I canna make you other than yourself. I can make 3:30:01.640 --> 3:30:04.920 you suck that crack pipe like a motherfucker. Let's as 3:30:04.920 --> 3:30:06.960 they say, porky is pork is anything that makes you 3:30:07.000 --> 3:30:10.359 other than yourself, not just the exactly to meet exactly. 3:30:10.560 --> 3:30:13.160 Pork is anything exactly. Swine is something that makes you 3:30:13.280 --> 3:30:13.760 other than. 3:30:13.720 --> 3:30:16.160 Yourselther than yourself exactly, so you become you might not 3:30:16.240 --> 3:30:19.160 know you other than yourself? Right, you know what I mean? 3:30:19.240 --> 3:30:19.840 You sitting there, you. 3:30:19.840 --> 3:30:22.360 Don't even realize that, yo gee, you used. 3:30:22.240 --> 3:30:25.160 To be the mac daddy don and you're doing You're 3:30:25.160 --> 3:30:28.400 sitting you done fucked around and and saansing Us left 3:30:28.440 --> 3:30:30.800 with the light of for fucking eight months and now 3:30:31.200 --> 3:30:34.280 he's like the dick drain and muscles ain't working and 3:30:34.360 --> 3:30:38.680 the bitch cut his head. You other than yourself, and 3:30:38.720 --> 3:30:40.720 then you had to go back and pray to a 3:30:40.800 --> 3:30:43.760 law to get that stript back. But then he still 3:30:43.800 --> 3:30:46.400 got to do what dyeing his own iniquity. That's what 3:30:46.520 --> 3:30:49.920 a lesson says in Execus chapter three. It says, you 3:30:50.080 --> 3:30:52.960 can get a warning and you can save, but you 3:30:53.040 --> 3:30:56.880 still have to die your iniquity so other than itself. 3:30:57.600 --> 3:30:59.360 When I when I saw a song come out of 3:30:59.400 --> 3:31:03.320 the system, because a son is first of all, a 3:31:03.480 --> 3:31:06.120 song was flying, and most of the WOO members at first, 3:31:08.120 --> 3:31:11.360 A song almost brought Polo and Ballei the stat Now 3:31:12.600 --> 3:31:16.000 let's talk about it for a quick moment. Okay, A 3:31:16.200 --> 3:31:19.440 song is a nigga coming from Brooklyn, my cousin coming 3:31:19.520 --> 3:31:22.680 in with Bam Lamo Polo all the way down. Nigga 3:31:23.520 --> 3:31:27.080 and niggas are still bill blasts, and bill blasts might 3:31:27.160 --> 3:31:29.320 when Bill Blase I got somebody, okare you gotta get away? 3:31:32.040 --> 3:31:33.680 You know what I'm saying. A song is that guy. 3:31:34.440 --> 3:31:38.000 He was a song unique, He was flying. You know, 3:31:38.040 --> 3:31:41.280 he wasn't an old dirty bast. He became older. I 3:31:41.320 --> 3:31:44.360 gave him that name, and the materialized. I gave him 3:31:44.360 --> 3:31:46.200 that name for a different reason. We're talking about another time. 3:31:46.680 --> 3:31:49.440 But I didn't expect it to overtake him. That's why 3:31:49.480 --> 3:31:52.879 I said the word is powerful. But when he came 3:31:52.920 --> 3:31:58.879 out of the system, he wasn't neither right get out 3:31:58.879 --> 3:32:02.560 of jail. Okay, you know it wasn't wasn't neither none 3:32:02.600 --> 3:32:05.560 of those names. It was something else. And then when 3:32:05.600 --> 3:32:08.200 they then they didn't inurture to find and go back 3:32:08.240 --> 3:32:11.600 and find him. They didn't nurture. I think that's interesting 3:32:11.680 --> 3:32:13.840 what you said earlier. I think you said you had 3:32:13.840 --> 3:32:15.360 an apartment for him, but you said you had the 3:32:15.440 --> 3:32:18.800 gym fall. Yeah, exactly. I knew that he needed that. 3:32:20.560 --> 3:32:25.120 Most people come home from jail in shape shape, but 3:32:25.240 --> 3:32:30.120 that that that the people that come home that gain weight. 3:32:30.959 --> 3:32:34.600 I'm mainly depressed because jail food sucks. So that means 3:32:34.640 --> 3:32:36.520 they had to go to the commissary and eat all 3:32:36.720 --> 3:32:40.240 those dirty snacks, not just that. Yeah, like, do you 3:32:40.280 --> 3:32:42.120 know what I'm sugary snacks? You're right about that. No, 3:32:42.160 --> 3:32:45.560 you're right about because regular commsary I mean regular food 3:32:45.800 --> 3:32:49.080 sucks keep you in shape, though, Yeah, but it will 3:32:49.160 --> 3:32:50.360 keep you in shape, you know what I mean, because 3:32:50.520 --> 3:32:54.920 it's processed carbs. But if you go into the the 3:32:55.320 --> 3:33:01.760 you know, you know that's all common hydrogs are. That's 3:33:01.800 --> 3:33:04.560 what the oreos are. That's where the twinkies are. That's 3:33:04.600 --> 3:33:06.760 what all that is. So that's but that's that's a 3:33:06.800 --> 3:33:10.000 side of depression. Yeah, there's the side of the depression. Listen, 3:33:10.760 --> 3:33:14.560 A son unique don't belong in a cage. A song 3:33:14.680 --> 3:33:17.440 is one of the A son unique for all our 3:33:17.760 --> 3:33:24.960 listeners out there. Old Dirty was freedom put into a body, 3:33:25.879 --> 3:33:30.800 a large merciful He always sends something for us. If 3:33:30.840 --> 3:33:32.959 Old Dirty didn't exist, and the rest of the wool 3:33:33.000 --> 3:33:38.119 don't understand what freedom means, freedom of expression, Old Dirty 3:33:38.280 --> 3:33:43.200 was freedom itself, and he was. You know, if you've 3:33:43.240 --> 3:33:45.560 seen Old Dirty right now, If Old Dirty was coming back, 3:33:45.640 --> 3:33:48.760 if we were doing this interview right now and Dirty 3:33:48.879 --> 3:33:52.480 walked in, whatever he wanted to do is what is 3:33:52.560 --> 3:33:55.280 going to happen, and we're going to do. Cameras are nothing. 3:33:55.360 --> 3:33:59.119 None of that means nothing. If you had to piss 3:33:59.200 --> 3:34:01.600 and he came in and in this container right here, 3:34:03.000 --> 3:34:05.840 he would have did it and left and it would 3:34:05.879 --> 3:34:12.280 have just been like, that's that's what foppened. God damn, 3:34:12.600 --> 3:34:15.360 it would have been. Yo. He so the time he 3:34:15.600 --> 3:34:19.240 yo yo, he was driving on the on the on 3:34:19.320 --> 3:34:24.480 the Verrizonal Bridge turned this cost sideways, blocked traffic. Nigga, 3:34:25.920 --> 3:34:27.600 mind you he's driving with a forty I'm mighty had 3:34:27.640 --> 3:34:32.200 passed your seat hit in ninety. It's a dangerous ride, bro. 3:34:32.959 --> 3:34:36.160 But now he pulls, stops the whole traffic like a cop. 3:34:37.200 --> 3:34:40.920 Get out and take some piss, gets back in the 3:34:41.040 --> 3:34:43.880 car and drop the Yeah. God. So anyway, like I 3:34:44.000 --> 3:34:48.240 was saying, he was embodying the freedom. Now take a 3:34:48.280 --> 3:34:53.360 guy like that and put him in jail. Yeah, he 3:34:53.440 --> 3:34:55.640 couldn't take it. They said he tried to set himself 3:34:55.680 --> 3:34:58.760 on fire in jail. Shot it. I saw the documentary. 3:34:58.760 --> 3:35:00.080 He said, Oh did he tried to set hrself on 3:35:00.200 --> 3:35:03.840 fire in jail? He couldn't take that. This guy is free. 3:35:04.720 --> 3:35:10.920 So when he comes out, you're seeing let be suppressed energy. 3:35:11.920 --> 3:35:15.000 And then like you said, the hydros and the audios 3:35:15.320 --> 3:35:16.920 more that's now growing around here. 3:35:16.920 --> 3:35:17.720 Muted and muted. 3:35:18.040 --> 3:35:21.960 Yeah, and now he's now he's not the one man 3:35:22.040 --> 3:35:25.560 on a sawn no more. Right, So anyway, yeah, this 3:35:25.680 --> 3:35:29.680 is crazy. The other day, I's had an argument two 3:35:29.720 --> 3:35:32.400 people out of argument and they were saying, oh, what's alcohol, 3:35:32.480 --> 3:35:34.760 And it was like, man, sugar is ten times worse 3:35:34.800 --> 3:35:38.680 than alcohol, like because sugar sends you in a state 3:35:38.720 --> 3:35:42.119 of depression. You know what I mean, if you're strong enough, 3:35:42.160 --> 3:35:45.760 you could like just kind of like alcohol, alcohol turns 3:35:45.760 --> 3:35:54.400 into sugar. List like you got to drinking water. 3:35:54.520 --> 3:35:58.120 Now he went to the bathroom twice, has been there 3:35:58.200 --> 3:35:58.840 for four hours. 3:35:59.680 --> 3:36:08.520 Don't be listen, guys, question it's drink that I'm drinking. 3:36:08.520 --> 3:36:13.720 I'm drinking drink. So let's speak it that that famous incident, 3:36:13.840 --> 3:36:17.960 that famous that famous incident in the Grammy? Was it 3:36:18.080 --> 3:36:23.480 the Grammys where yeah song says who takes for the children? Yeah? 3:36:23.920 --> 3:36:27.400 Like what happened that time y'all didn't written the award? Yeah, 3:36:27.400 --> 3:36:29.240 I don't know the exact thing. I wasn't physically there, 3:36:30.959 --> 3:36:34.560 but he was. He said something that was actually profound. 3:36:35.120 --> 3:36:38.160 I mean, they gave the best hip hop album? Was 3:36:38.160 --> 3:36:40.440 a hip hop or rap? What's the category? Same ship 3:36:40.959 --> 3:36:43.240 to them they gave. They gave it to I think 3:36:43.320 --> 3:36:48.240 Pete Diddy at that time versus w Tan mhmm. It's 3:36:48.280 --> 3:36:51.480 like that don't make sense, right, No disrespect to their 3:36:52.200 --> 3:36:54.760 creativity and what they gained and all their record sells. 3:36:55.440 --> 3:37:00.800 It's almost like, uh, if I was shoot guys, right, 3:37:00.879 --> 3:37:06.160 now thank you no disrespect that he sold the most 3:37:06.240 --> 3:37:08.960 liketords out of all of us. If I told you 3:37:09.080 --> 3:37:13.560 who is the better rapper, Vanilla Ice or NAS, and 3:37:13.680 --> 3:37:15.600 somebody say Vanilla Ice, how you're gonna be And I 3:37:15.600 --> 3:37:18.560 ain't saying, I'm just saying, you know what you're saying, 3:37:18.840 --> 3:37:21.840 Vanila I sold more records than NAS. I get you 3:37:22.200 --> 3:37:25.720 exactly what you're saying. But who has the better album? 3:37:26.080 --> 3:37:29.040 I mean hip hop? Yeah, I mean who has the 3:37:29.120 --> 3:37:33.640 better hip hop's life? Who has the better hip not absolutely? Yeah, 3:37:34.040 --> 3:37:37.040 you're hip hop exactly Like so that's what God he 3:37:37.160 --> 3:37:40.880 was saying. It's like, yo, you know, for the Puffy 3:37:40.959 --> 3:37:43.240 is you're speaking for hip hop. Yeah, Puffy is good, 3:37:43.320 --> 3:37:47.320 Puffy's great, Puffy did what he did, but boutang, Yeah, 3:37:47.879 --> 3:37:49.400 you know what I'm saying, he says for the children, 3:37:49.560 --> 3:37:52.960 meaning he met like, Yo, it's better, right, It's better 3:37:53.040 --> 3:37:56.880 for you who tanks It's a better bet, you know 3:37:56.879 --> 3:38:01.400 what I mean? And and and do that ship. No, 3:38:02.440 --> 3:38:05.240 that's one thing that's freedom. Think about this. I don't 3:38:05.240 --> 3:38:08.200 know because I wasn't there, but this is imagine a fuss. 3:38:09.120 --> 3:38:12.880 Here's a guy in the audience that's not giving no 3:38:12.959 --> 3:38:17.000 announcement tonight. He's not scheduled for no appearance on the 3:38:17.040 --> 3:38:20.280 stage called O DV. Yeah, but he was dressed like 3:38:20.400 --> 3:38:23.080 it though he is, he's dressed shop he sees. He said, 3:38:23.240 --> 3:38:27.120 I spent three thousand hours on my suit. He said 3:38:27.160 --> 3:38:30.120 it on the mic. We got that. Remember that, here's 3:38:30.200 --> 3:38:32.400 a guy that's not you know, they got a list. 3:38:33.720 --> 3:38:37.160 He ain't scheduled on the list. How the fuck he 3:38:37.200 --> 3:38:43.400 get from his seat through the auditorium to the security 3:38:44.160 --> 3:38:47.720 to the mic to say he walk with Mariah Carey. 3:38:47.800 --> 3:38:50.600 I'm making this up. Okay, even if he did that, Okay, 3:38:51.760 --> 3:38:55.400 how did how how he is up on the stage, Well, 3:38:55.560 --> 3:38:58.920 he's like looking at that look at their qu sheets, 3:38:59.680 --> 3:39:04.120 like this is not in the show program the Kanye 3:39:04.240 --> 3:39:08.240 West been his ship? Yeah, Kanye say ye, Kanye said, 3:39:09.000 --> 3:39:11.440 Kanye did it this way right, Well, Kanye did it 3:39:11.640 --> 3:39:13.560 to tell Swift. Yeah, he did a tailor swim. But 3:39:13.560 --> 3:39:15.560 he walked from his seat right there in the front 3:39:15.600 --> 3:39:18.879 off the steps, right. Dirty had to do some ship 3:39:19.080 --> 3:39:23.720 like but we didn't know that. 3:39:23.959 --> 3:39:27.680 He wasn't even close. No, we'll know where he came 3:39:27.760 --> 3:39:28.280 from Rome. 3:39:29.280 --> 3:39:30.320 He's not even on the other. 3:39:30.320 --> 3:39:32.920 Shots of the camera. If you watched the whole episode 3:39:32.959 --> 3:39:36.200 of the show. You don't even see the shot go 3:39:36.800 --> 3:39:41.720 faster Thange. Listen, he poured some ship off only a 3:39:41.840 --> 3:39:47.520 free man could pull off. He's like fucked everything. Steve 3:39:47.600 --> 3:39:51.680 Rifkott said that he was. He Steve Wigan said that 3:39:51.760 --> 3:39:54.360 he was at his house him and his fire shot 3:39:54.440 --> 3:39:57.680 him up. That god damn. But anyway, because Steve lived 3:39:57.680 --> 3:39:59.959 on fifty Year Street like that town, and he said 3:40:00.000 --> 3:40:02.840 he came to his clip before and after. So that's 3:40:02.840 --> 3:40:04.760 a whole other story that would get from Steve one day. 3:40:05.160 --> 3:40:09.920 He don't drink. But anyway, the freedom of dirty was 3:40:10.040 --> 3:40:12.480 bottled up while he was in jail, and when he 3:40:12.560 --> 3:40:15.160 came out he was not hisself. And when he got 3:40:15.200 --> 3:40:18.000 to RockA Feller, he was not himself. And we never 3:40:18.120 --> 3:40:23.119 got a chance to build the full shedding of everything 3:40:23.120 --> 3:40:25.800 that was upon him, to let the unique a song 3:40:25.879 --> 3:40:28.560 blossom again. But we've been blessed through the through the 3:40:28.720 --> 3:40:32.000 mostary of a law that his son wyd B goes 3:40:32.080 --> 3:40:33.960 on tour with the wool like that. I like that, 3:40:34.040 --> 3:40:36.720 so before all performs all his father love is and 3:40:36.800 --> 3:40:39.959 that's another blessing for our family. I'm not gonna lie 3:40:40.000 --> 3:40:42.520 to you. I forget what because I went to the 3:40:42.600 --> 3:40:45.520 Paras show. I forget what other show. This wasn't on tour. 3:40:45.600 --> 3:40:48.800 This was like just a random who show you two 3:40:48.879 --> 3:40:51.720 wool shows I went to and I sent him on 3:40:51.800 --> 3:40:54.200 stage and I was like, yo, DP, he still got it. 3:40:54.320 --> 3:40:55.360 I was talking to myself like. 3:40:55.400 --> 3:40:58.040 What the I was like, Yo, that's a little bit 3:40:58.280 --> 3:41:00.959 because you you know, like he has is brand, like. 3:41:02.440 --> 3:41:06.120 He has the energy. And I'm meaning, I know it's 3:41:06.200 --> 3:41:09.480 O DB's son, but his he he, he embraces the 3:41:09.600 --> 3:41:12.400 characters so much that I don't call him O DBS son. 3:41:12.440 --> 3:41:14.520 I say, I call him O d B. But me 3:41:14.720 --> 3:41:18.280 saying that, like, I'm like, what a minute, that's that's 3:41:18.360 --> 3:41:21.040 kind of like crazy. So let's make let's take a 3:41:21.040 --> 3:41:27.400 shot for shot n Y d B mm hmm. Was 3:41:27.400 --> 3:41:31.560 about how much we got less we're about. I want 3:41:31.560 --> 3:41:32.200 to take this now. 3:41:32.480 --> 3:41:35.039 Okay, go first, I'm going to you, and I'm going 3:41:35.040 --> 3:41:37.359 after everybody because all right, cook, I don't. 3:41:37.160 --> 3:41:43.360 Need to be uncomfortlated. First off, you have so many movies, 3:41:43.440 --> 3:41:46.960 so many things that you scored, so many but let's 3:41:46.959 --> 3:41:50.440 talk about this. You've got a new new project. Yes, indeed, 3:41:51.320 --> 3:41:53.240 let's let's take a shot for it. First, take a shot. First, 3:41:53.440 --> 3:41:55.320 we're taking a shot to my new film. It's called 3:41:55.400 --> 3:41:58.959 One Spoon of Chocolate one and this is your film, 3:41:59.120 --> 3:42:09.480 my film directed, written, written, directed, directed, produced by my wife. 3:42:09.800 --> 3:42:12.039 Oh wow, you know what I mean? So double bum. 3:42:13.920 --> 3:42:14.200 Double. 3:42:17.000 --> 3:42:18.920 I mean you told me that your wife, she has 3:42:18.959 --> 3:42:21.840 two July way, she'd be here in a second. So, 3:42:22.000 --> 3:42:23.800 I mean, let's talk about that for a quick second. 3:42:23.920 --> 3:42:27.280 You talk about the movie. But the beauty of the 3:42:27.480 --> 3:42:32.920 power of the wisdom or the woman. Right, A lot 3:42:32.959 --> 3:42:35.560 of dudes, especially in our the generation before us, there 3:42:35.640 --> 3:42:38.920 was so many pimps, and that culture was the mindset 3:42:38.959 --> 3:42:39.480 of our people. 3:42:39.840 --> 3:42:42.880 We didn't recognize the value of the woman. 3:42:43.280 --> 3:42:46.560 There's like and there's a sample on Cuban Links where 3:42:46.560 --> 3:42:50.000 the God says, yeah, man, I keep a bitch. When 3:42:50.040 --> 3:42:52.360 I got a bitch, I keep a bit shaking. He said, 3:42:53.160 --> 3:42:55.880 I give her money, and I'm sorry, I'll give a 3:42:55.959 --> 3:43:00.600 clothes jewelry with no money. Because I give a girl money, 3:43:01.800 --> 3:43:06.480 she would lose her mind. Right, So the old school 3:43:06.680 --> 3:43:11.000 mindset was that don't give your woman the money. You 3:43:11.320 --> 3:43:15.199 control the money and let her just have some clothing 3:43:15.280 --> 3:43:20.720 and jury that's foolish, because who take care of your house? 3:43:21.520 --> 3:43:24.800 Who take care of the home. The woman who's gonna 3:43:24.800 --> 3:43:27.800 make sure the kids go to school and and put 3:43:27.840 --> 3:43:30.200 the kids in their proper clothing and their proper equate 3:43:30.920 --> 3:43:32.240 how's she gonna do that? She gotta wait for you 3:43:32.320 --> 3:43:35.200 to write to check, you know what I mean. So 3:43:35.320 --> 3:43:41.480 the jewel that people forgot is that kings don't build 3:43:41.640 --> 3:43:48.119 castles for kings. A king build a castle for the queen. 3:43:49.200 --> 3:43:50.160 That's right, you know what it is. 3:43:50.320 --> 3:43:51.080 King build. 3:43:54.440 --> 3:43:57.040 He felt that, He said, Yo, we don't build. We 3:43:57.080 --> 3:43:59.480 didn't building for ourselves. We go to war and do 3:43:59.560 --> 3:44:02.080 all the oils of war to bring back home to 3:44:02.160 --> 3:44:07.439 our wisdom. Because knowledge and wisdom bores what understanding understanding 3:44:08.400 --> 3:44:10.600 That means you the knowledge, you're the foundation. But you 3:44:10.720 --> 3:44:12.880 got to put it through the wisdom. The wisdom is 3:44:12.920 --> 3:44:17.520 the woman symbolic to what the womb. If you put 3:44:17.560 --> 3:44:19.680 it through the womb, you'll get a light. You put 3:44:19.720 --> 3:44:22.680 it in your hand. All these kids don't got girls. 3:44:23.360 --> 3:44:25.080 You put it in your hand and nothing gonna happen. 3:44:28.560 --> 3:44:31.840 You need that wisdom to carry that seat of life. 3:44:32.040 --> 3:44:35.680 But that seat of life is not just physical. Sometimes 3:44:35.680 --> 3:44:41.840 it's mental. Spiritual, economical, soul, shoot, metaphysical. There we go. 3:44:42.240 --> 3:44:44.400 So I want to just add that to the conversation 3:44:44.520 --> 3:44:49.640 because we wife's head too, right there, bong that wife. 3:44:49.920 --> 3:44:51.160 So let's take a shot to the wives. 3:44:51.400 --> 3:45:00.120 Shot to the wives, ma'am, nor we know already, but 3:45:00.800 --> 3:45:03.440 you know, yeah, yeah he's married to. 3:45:05.160 --> 3:45:07.440 I'm actually yeah married laughing ship. 3:45:09.200 --> 3:45:12.320 It's like, ask you between these guys, You're like, what 3:45:12.520 --> 3:45:13.119 do you mean. 3:45:14.959 --> 3:45:18.960 Which way? Yeah, No, I'm married, I'm married. But you 3:45:19.240 --> 3:45:22.000 agree with us absolutely, Yeah. You guys told me a coach. 3:45:22.080 --> 3:45:33.080 Brothers no one guy, Yo, that's even yo. We still 3:45:33.120 --> 3:45:38.880 we're gonna get your brothers. You thought you so bunk 3:45:38.959 --> 3:45:43.000 bunk so not. It's important though, y'all because our culture, yeah, 3:45:43.160 --> 3:45:47.240 is because we called missogynistic. Yeah, and then our women 3:45:47.280 --> 3:45:51.120 are now rapping harder than us. Girl, she's like yeah, 3:45:51.160 --> 3:45:57.480 she's yeah, they rapping for the deck now. So it's 3:45:57.520 --> 3:46:00.640 getting crazy. But we need to know that as a position. 3:46:00.760 --> 3:46:03.560 That's why it says the sun and the moon having 3:46:03.600 --> 3:46:06.760 attracting power over our planet. When the lesson says that, 3:46:06.840 --> 3:46:09.640 they're saying that the planet is your life or your 3:46:09.720 --> 3:46:13.040 child's life. And the mother and the father both have 3:46:13.640 --> 3:46:17.800 attracting powers and influential powers over that planet. And if 3:46:17.800 --> 3:46:20.520 they grow that planet right, they grow health healthy. But 3:46:20.640 --> 3:46:21.920 if they they don't grow it right, it's going to 3:46:22.000 --> 3:46:25.120 go through rain health. Not on earthquakes, they said, they 3:46:25.160 --> 3:46:28.160 continue every day. The Earth travels at the speet of 3:46:28.200 --> 3:46:30.280 one thousand and thirty seven one thirty miles per hour 3:46:30.640 --> 3:46:35.080 as it's moving around the sun. Right, but yet the 3:46:35.360 --> 3:46:38.800 ideas is drawing up into the Earth's rotation, which is 3:46:38.840 --> 3:46:42.120 called gravitation. When you think about that, though the child 3:46:42.520 --> 3:46:45.200 ideas is took it in by the mother, what happens 3:46:45.240 --> 3:46:49.360 when the father's not there? It ruins the gravitational Pope, 3:46:50.560 --> 3:46:54.920 Now she got to try to explain the mathematics of 3:46:55.000 --> 3:46:58.800 the sun. The moon is there is what to reflect 3:46:58.840 --> 3:47:01.000 the light of the sun, not to be the light 3:47:01.080 --> 3:47:04.039 of the son. We grew a part of single parent 3:47:04.160 --> 3:47:09.840 where our mothers had to be the man and the woman. 3:47:10.640 --> 3:47:12.080 She had to be the knowledge and wisdom. And she 3:47:12.160 --> 3:47:15.240 can't do that like she did the best she can 3:47:16.000 --> 3:47:18.360 and thanks to us or thanks, I'll say thanks in 3:47:18.440 --> 3:47:21.000 my life we canna say thanks to the mathematics that 3:47:21.160 --> 3:47:24.119 the father. That's why we called the father the father. 3:47:24.959 --> 3:47:28.840 Because yeah, he became a father to brothers who didn't 3:47:28.840 --> 3:47:32.240 have a father. He gave him that knowledge. Because that's 3:47:32.280 --> 3:47:35.520 not to start calling on the father. I didn't know that. No, 3:47:35.600 --> 3:47:37.320 they called her the father because he was the father 3:47:37.480 --> 3:47:40.680 of that idea. Ok So the father of an idea, 3:47:40.840 --> 3:47:44.879 father means one who furthers or father. That's why I said, 3:47:44.920 --> 3:47:48.080 he took you father, he took you father. And also 3:47:48.200 --> 3:47:52.960 in the first the opening of the Quran, what's the 3:47:53.000 --> 3:47:56.080 first chapter of the Koran? Anybody the father to her 3:47:57.080 --> 3:48:01.600 the far the beginning of the father. Yeah, so that's 3:48:01.600 --> 3:48:04.760 where you get this father from. But still he furthered 3:48:04.800 --> 3:48:07.560 our education. So he became the father of us. But 3:48:07.720 --> 3:48:10.960 also even that's a spiritual but even the mental and 3:48:11.000 --> 3:48:13.840 the physical thing. He becomes your father because you don't 3:48:13.840 --> 3:48:16.640 got your father there. And tell you the basic science 3:48:16.879 --> 3:48:22.480 that knowledge means to know, to look, to listen, to observe, 3:48:23.160 --> 3:48:26.480 and to respect. Now you may know something but you 3:48:26.520 --> 3:48:32.840 ain't listen. Listening is not observing. Observing and seeing it's 3:48:32.879 --> 3:48:34.760 two different things. You could see it, but you didn't 3:48:34.800 --> 3:48:38.680 observe it. And you can do all those things and 3:48:38.800 --> 3:48:43.960 not respect it. And you're going to have a problem 3:48:43.959 --> 3:48:48.160 if you don't complete every action of knowledge, and then 3:48:48.200 --> 3:48:49.960 that leads to our wisdom. So these type of things, 3:48:51.680 --> 3:48:53.600 these type of things are important. We're going back to 3:48:53.680 --> 3:48:57.760 our wives. They're the wisdom. So that knowledge goes through 3:48:57.800 --> 3:49:02.160 the wisdom, the wisdom. It's not just a wise dome, 3:49:02.879 --> 3:49:05.360 because you have to have a wise dome. Dome means 3:49:05.400 --> 3:49:10.320 what domain. You got to have something wise and where 3:49:10.360 --> 3:49:14.880 you domain at. Your domain must have wise and wisdom 3:49:14.920 --> 3:49:17.640 in it or it ain't gone. But if you have 3:49:17.800 --> 3:49:20.040 that knowledge and you get to that wisdom, wisdom they 3:49:20.040 --> 3:49:23.320 say also the accumulation of experience, those experiences you put 3:49:23.360 --> 3:49:26.520 in your woman. Even when a man makes love to 3:49:26.640 --> 3:49:33.000 his woman, he's putting his accumulated experience into it. That 3:49:33.120 --> 3:49:36.120 spung cell that travels inside your woman before it made 3:49:36.120 --> 3:49:40.760 your child. You got children's, yeah, children, the spung cell. 3:49:41.120 --> 3:49:42.880 The scientists have already looked at it. 3:49:46.360 --> 3:49:47.080 It has. 3:49:48.800 --> 3:49:57.000 One molecule of air. So this molecule of air, now 3:49:57.160 --> 3:50:02.000 what is the soun surprised of hydrants in the head, right, 3:50:02.720 --> 3:50:05.800 So you have a molecule of air that comprises all 3:50:05.880 --> 3:50:08.320 these gases of air, and that air I said in 3:50:08.400 --> 3:50:10.560 one of my lyrics. But I'll just give you some 3:50:10.720 --> 3:50:15.560 of them. Hydrogen and helium, xenon, freeon are gone. You 3:50:15.600 --> 3:50:19.560 know what I mean, carbon, you know what I mean, oxygen. 3:50:19.680 --> 3:50:22.720 These are all it's mainly eight main gases. I put 3:50:22.720 --> 3:50:24.680 it in the lyrics so so brothers could study that. 3:50:25.040 --> 3:50:26.600 They don't listen to me, they won't hit my beats. 3:50:29.080 --> 3:50:30.320 But I put it in there so we can know 3:50:30.600 --> 3:50:33.800 that now, this, this, this, this organic life is carrying 3:50:33.880 --> 3:50:37.720 a molecule of that to a cloud of blood that 3:50:37.880 --> 3:50:41.640 your woman has thirty days of her life eating, smoking, 3:50:41.760 --> 3:50:44.280 drinking or better not eat smoking, whatever she's doing her 3:50:44.360 --> 3:50:46.960 thirty days of her life, she's accumulating all that energy 3:50:47.400 --> 3:50:51.680 and it went down to this egg waiting in the 3:50:51.720 --> 3:50:55.200 cloud of blood. And then you, when you're having sex 3:50:55.280 --> 3:50:59.720 with your woman, you take that sexual energy all that 3:51:00.120 --> 3:51:02.240 is coming in when you feel that first that that's 3:51:02.280 --> 3:51:04.120 what I'm not making this up. When you come, when 3:51:04.160 --> 3:51:08.960 you feel that firstphor you you feel it here first, bro, 3:51:09.280 --> 3:51:11.800 when you when you come came, we agree. Man. When 3:51:11.840 --> 3:51:13.720 you have an orgasm, when you feel it that first 3:51:14.400 --> 3:51:19.640 here before it goes here, it triggers in your mind first, 3:51:20.400 --> 3:51:26.080 It's like, damn, that's euphoria. Okay, euphoria Okay, I respect 3:51:26.080 --> 3:51:30.320 that I was saying. So now it went from a 3:51:30.440 --> 3:51:39.600 gas to a liquid, and the travels is a liquid. 3:51:41.400 --> 3:51:46.720 Now the spum cell knows where it goes. M it's 3:51:46.800 --> 3:51:48.200 not like where the going. 3:51:50.480 --> 3:51:52.280 He's headed to a direct. 3:51:52.000 --> 3:52:01.720 Destination upstream like a salmon. Don't want the barby said salmon. 3:52:02.240 --> 3:52:07.120 Saying salmon like a salmon, I said, right, I did 3:52:07.160 --> 3:52:20.280 a stea. It travels, It travels upstream knowing where it's 3:52:20.320 --> 3:52:23.600 going bro to reach the egg. And when it gets there, 3:52:23.680 --> 3:52:25.760 you notice not to get too deep on it, but 3:52:25.840 --> 3:52:27.240 you can cut it out. You want to cut it 3:52:27.640 --> 3:52:30.520 when it gets to anything. Whatever you do to do, 3:52:31.080 --> 3:52:32.880 whether you do that something to you when it gets 3:52:32.920 --> 3:52:36.440 to the egg. Right, only when the first get there 3:52:37.280 --> 3:52:38.760 about nice for themselves? 3:52:38.840 --> 3:52:39.120 Make it. 3:52:40.440 --> 3:52:43.720 One guy's leading though, he's like, I can do it. 3:52:44.760 --> 3:52:47.720 He gets there right? Who say boat? Yeah? Who save boat? 3:52:48.280 --> 3:52:50.600 Hit the boat of lighting in there? When he goes in? 3:52:50.760 --> 3:52:53.160 What do the other a sponge shells do? They give up? 3:52:53.360 --> 3:52:57.240 Non cipher, They surround the informal corona help him out. 3:52:57.360 --> 3:53:00.640 They formed the eight points of the sun brother, and 3:53:00.720 --> 3:53:03.120 they stop anything else from entering he's in there, ball, 3:53:03.160 --> 3:53:05.720 he's in a He's like, yo, you always that getting 3:53:05.760 --> 3:53:13.280 busy kids. So so say that. So the sperm cell 3:53:13.360 --> 3:53:17.480 nose where to go. But even more deeper that we 3:53:17.520 --> 3:53:19.760 don't pay attention to the ex cell knows where to wait. 3:53:21.160 --> 3:53:23.600 It's not like it's waiting over here, nigga. It's like 3:53:23.880 --> 3:53:27.480 I'm waiting for you right here, this strong motherfucker that 3:53:27.600 --> 3:53:30.800 could bring me those chromosomes. I'm waiting for it. Right 3:53:30.880 --> 3:53:33.000 behind your head. Right now, I see two X chromosomes. 3:53:33.240 --> 3:53:43.280 Look at that. No, no, right right behind, right behind 3:53:43.320 --> 3:53:46.960 you know it X so so so in the in 3:53:47.040 --> 3:53:50.600 the body, the female body, there's this two X chromosomes. 3:53:51.280 --> 3:53:53.240 I'm speaking of the major way, not going through all 3:53:53.280 --> 3:53:56.160 the different twenty but majorly it's two xs and and 3:53:56.280 --> 3:53:57.840 the man though he has an X and a Y. 3:54:00.240 --> 3:54:02.880 The X in mathematics is the twenty fourth letter, and 3:54:02.920 --> 3:54:05.320 it's known. It's the symbol for what is unknown. This 3:54:05.440 --> 3:54:07.400 is why we have to use X as a multiplication. 3:54:07.960 --> 3:54:10.880 So when this spun is going Muslims, they would say, 3:54:11.320 --> 3:54:14.440 Malcolm X is because he didn't know his last name. 3:54:14.560 --> 3:54:16.840 His last name was the slave man. Right, Okay, you 3:54:16.840 --> 3:54:19.160 get this point Okay, so you get that x though, 3:54:19.280 --> 3:54:22.000 and it's also a multiplication, So when that spum hits 3:54:22.080 --> 3:54:25.240 that egg, it's gonna be a multiplication. The chances of 3:54:25.320 --> 3:54:28.560 it being a man is three to one because you 3:54:28.680 --> 3:54:29.760 have her have two x. 3:54:30.000 --> 3:54:30.600 Three to one. 3:54:30.720 --> 3:54:35.760 So that's why people are celebrating a man. Yeah, chances likely, No, 3:54:35.840 --> 3:54:37.560 it's not likely. It's three the one chance you're gonna 3:54:37.560 --> 3:54:40.360 get a man. Wow, I didn't know. One chance you 3:54:40.400 --> 3:54:45.200 can get a woman. Nos. Three chances for one for 3:54:45.240 --> 3:54:48.400 a woman, one chance for a man, which is natural 3:54:48.520 --> 3:54:51.680 because you need in order for population to multiply, you 3:54:51.800 --> 3:54:54.640 need women. If you get a guy, you get a 3:54:54.680 --> 3:55:00.560 bunch of guys. Stop playing, Stop playing, bast let's not 3:55:00.720 --> 3:55:01.560 playing basketball. 3:55:02.720 --> 3:55:04.560 In a lot of and a lot of people, like 3:55:04.640 --> 3:55:07.880 a lot of different cultures, they celebrate the man because 3:55:07.920 --> 3:55:09.880 obviously that's not the norm. 3:55:09.720 --> 3:55:13.160 Right because the man is what we call the life giver, right, 3:55:14.080 --> 3:55:19.200 But the woman is the life receiver. She receives that life, 3:55:19.240 --> 3:55:22.680 She receives all your bullshit bro good and bad, and 3:55:22.800 --> 3:55:25.320 she takes that to that spun And when that spungsor 3:55:25.400 --> 3:55:29.200 hits that excel, it delivers all your data and information 3:55:29.280 --> 3:55:32.400 of you. It also delivers what you was thinking. But 3:55:32.600 --> 3:55:34.000 within it, like I was trying to say, there's a 3:55:34.040 --> 3:55:38.120 molecule of air and that's the one spark of energy. 3:55:38.280 --> 3:55:41.200 That spark of energy is gonna now of course everything 3:55:41.240 --> 3:55:45.680 because it's organic and and organic is happening. And when 3:55:45.720 --> 3:55:48.440 its as a bomb, it's like a bomb. It's the 3:55:48.480 --> 3:55:52.840 big bang. Uh. Scientists called it the Big Bang theory. 3:55:52.880 --> 3:55:56.000 But in this form it is the same. No, I 3:55:56.080 --> 3:55:58.640 believe it. Yeah, the Big Bank theory happens there because 3:55:58.640 --> 3:56:02.640 once that sponsor hits that and it starts multiplying how 3:56:02.720 --> 3:56:06.840 many cells does a human body? Starts producing trillions? How 3:56:06.920 --> 3:56:11.520 many stars we have? Exactly? So a law is the greatest. 3:56:12.160 --> 3:56:15.760 A law started with the thought of it. Put that thought, 3:56:16.000 --> 3:56:21.040 that energy and that organic atom and inorganic matter sent 3:56:21.160 --> 3:56:25.800 that through and bring forth this new life. Now we 3:56:25.920 --> 3:56:29.680 started this by saying the woman and being the queen, 3:56:29.720 --> 3:56:32.560 and why we build our castles is because yo, gee, 3:56:33.920 --> 3:56:39.080 that's the That's why the brothers call it the Earth right, 3:56:39.880 --> 3:56:42.680 and the lessons say the planet Earth is the home 3:56:42.760 --> 3:56:46.240 of Islam. Says take that for a second, or you've 3:56:46.280 --> 3:56:48.880 met that lesson before. Brothers okay said, the planet Earth 3:56:49.000 --> 3:56:51.920 is the home of Islam. Islam is the avag word 3:56:52.000 --> 3:56:57.640 that means what anybody but the Islam peace exactly. The 3:56:57.760 --> 3:57:00.680 earth is the home of peace. Were not in peace 3:57:00.720 --> 3:57:03.560 on Earth because all the other planets are not the 3:57:03.720 --> 3:57:07.800 home of peace the other planets. You gotta send a 3:57:07.880 --> 3:57:11.560 spaceship to Mars to get a sample of dirt, the 3:57:11.800 --> 3:57:16.200 hope you find an organic life. You might find a 3:57:16.240 --> 3:57:20.480 little molecule or some shit like bang bung here a nigga, 3:57:20.480 --> 3:57:22.200 I could call on a piece of bread, throw it 3:57:22.280 --> 3:57:24.640 in the closet and the whole tree ll grow out 3:57:24.680 --> 3:57:29.760 of it. Nigga, this is the home of Islam. Okay, 3:57:30.520 --> 3:57:32.880 I'm gonna go too deep on that. But anyway, but 3:57:33.040 --> 3:57:38.840 your woman is considered your earth because through her all 3:57:39.040 --> 3:57:43.560 possibilities are there. So we don't fight war or work 3:57:43.640 --> 3:57:46.600 every day or do everything for our own We do 3:57:46.760 --> 3:57:51.400 it as a king to build a castle for our queen, 3:57:51.800 --> 3:57:55.600 so we could give birth to a prince. I call 3:57:55.680 --> 3:57:58.920 all my sons and my nephews, my nephews over there 3:57:58.960 --> 3:58:01.600 right now listening if if if he answered the phone 3:58:01.680 --> 3:58:04.920 right now, Young divine you over there, can you year 3:58:05.000 --> 3:58:08.080 me if I call you on the phone, what do 3:58:08.160 --> 3:58:12.960 I say to you first, what I call you peace, prince. 3:58:14.600 --> 3:58:16.880 I'm gonna know he's a prince, yo, his father is 3:58:16.920 --> 3:58:19.800 a king. I'll do the same to my sons, and 3:58:19.880 --> 3:58:23.000 I'll do the same to your sons, because this journey 3:58:23.400 --> 3:58:26.040 is only made of kings and queens. Took a shots 3:58:26.040 --> 3:58:28.960 the kings and queens to the kings and queens, bomb 3:58:29.040 --> 3:58:35.400 bomb to the kings, all right, talking about loyalty or respect, 3:58:35.400 --> 3:58:36.720 and then we want to get into your movies and 3:58:37.120 --> 3:58:40.520 loyalty of respect, loyalty, loyalty, No, sorry about that. 3:58:41.600 --> 3:58:47.880 We cut that edit that pull the liquor, yea, lordy 3:58:47.960 --> 3:58:55.240 of respect both. We're going back down it. Then we're 3:58:55.240 --> 3:58:56.280 gonna bro. 3:58:57.520 --> 3:59:04.200 This is an this one is uh yeah, we're going down. 3:59:04.240 --> 3:59:07.120 We need to go down. We're gonna la. 3:59:07.680 --> 3:59:10.440 That's a ramic ship. Ain't say nothing, but that ship 3:59:10.560 --> 3:59:11.520 is mad strong. 3:59:11.600 --> 3:59:14.880 I think I'm a little envious. 3:59:14.920 --> 3:59:15.400 So we went. 3:59:15.560 --> 3:59:17.760 We went and bought some though, right we feel like 3:59:17.880 --> 3:59:19.360 I feel like they had three shots. 3:59:19.200 --> 3:59:21.600 That I should have had six. Yeah, we bought, we 3:59:21.680 --> 3:59:26.320 bought more. I need something to sir. We're going to 3:59:26.400 --> 3:59:29.160 the beach for that you're doing. They call me child, Well, 3:59:31.680 --> 3:59:40.240 I like that why I picked lordy and respect because 3:59:40.320 --> 3:59:42.480 you know, first of all, if you got lord he 3:59:42.560 --> 3:59:44.440 and no respect, where the fuck you at you? Like 3:59:44.520 --> 3:59:46.160 I'm down with you some but I don't like you. 3:59:46.880 --> 3:59:49.160 Like I'm fucking with you, my nigga, but I can't 3:59:49.200 --> 3:59:51.760 wait to fucking step over you. Lord. 3:59:51.960 --> 3:59:53.880 Respect is a nigga that loyal to you but can't 3:59:53.880 --> 3:59:54.160 wait to. 3:59:54.160 --> 3:59:58.040 Take your position. Lord, have respectus. He's loyal and he 3:59:58.120 --> 4:00:00.920 respect your position. But expect what I lost you. I 4:00:01.040 --> 4:00:02.760 respect you. I respect you by a nigga. I can't wait. 4:00:03.680 --> 4:00:05.600 Let these niggas kill you. This is the best is 4:00:05.680 --> 4:00:11.080 the best answer. Let's be real, though, Let's be real. 4:00:11.200 --> 4:00:13.120 You need both of those. We need both. We need 4:00:13.200 --> 4:00:13.680 both of those. 4:00:13.840 --> 4:00:15.480 So so now let's let's let's talk about this. 4:00:15.720 --> 4:00:16.160 This movie. 4:00:16.640 --> 4:00:18.720 I want to get before the movies here because this 4:00:18.840 --> 4:00:23.000 we're gonna I know, I want to rap. I can't 4:00:23.040 --> 4:00:24.720 hear with something, bro, let me tell you something. 4:00:25.680 --> 4:00:28.160 Listen to this. I know I already said this is you. 4:00:28.440 --> 4:00:31.440 This is the first Wu Tang show in Miami. 4:00:31.720 --> 4:00:35.080 That's crazy. That's the flyer. Take a look at that 4:00:35.120 --> 4:00:37.760 show that that was like twitter back then. He passed 4:00:37.760 --> 4:00:42.080 it to me. This is the ancient Twitter. Look at this. 4:00:42.200 --> 4:00:45.560 Listen to me, agent Twitter, it is it is. It 4:00:45.760 --> 4:00:49.280 is ancient, ancient, ancient. 4:00:49.640 --> 4:00:54.400 To me personally, as ap Pad, this is full circle 4:00:54.520 --> 4:00:54.760 for me. 4:00:55.120 --> 4:00:57.960 That's a blessing to be a fan. You were there. 4:00:58.160 --> 4:01:02.160 I was absolutely asking. Yeah, I wanted to have a fly. 4:01:02.440 --> 4:01:05.400 I was in there, bro, But look at look at 4:01:05.440 --> 4:01:10.680 the list. Okay, it's Wu Tang Clan right. Exclusive performance. 4:01:11.160 --> 4:01:17.000 It says Miami Hip Hop ninety four. Right, Mother Superior, Yep. 4:01:17.600 --> 4:01:19.160 I see that. I get the Mother Superior. What's that 4:01:19.200 --> 4:01:22.240 that's above her? Below? Now she's there somewhere, Mother Superior 4:01:22.400 --> 4:01:25.080 very well. Anyway, it says in association with all right. 4:01:25.120 --> 4:01:27.640 It starts off with I ain't gonna be the whole ship, 4:01:27.800 --> 4:01:30.840 all right, but anyway, Miami Hip Hop nineteen ninety four 4:01:30.920 --> 4:01:34.840 Part one, Exclusive performance of Wu Tank, Exclusive performance of 4:01:34.880 --> 4:01:41.440 Wu Tang Clan, also performing live Dimmy D. You know 4:01:41.560 --> 4:01:44.440 Dimmi D. He knows and you don't know, no kid, 4:01:45.560 --> 4:01:48.720 Fucky Black snows Yep in the Nation in the hoods. 4:01:49.720 --> 4:01:55.920 That's Dope, Mother Superior Superior x x x E S 4:01:56.360 --> 4:01:59.120 Wait wait the first x. 4:02:02.880 --> 4:02:08.600 Yes, solid waste, Solid waste, that's Paul right. 4:02:11.680 --> 4:02:12.720 And more. 4:02:12.840 --> 4:02:17.480 Remember and read the venue the venue fat by DJ 4:02:17.720 --> 4:02:20.840 Chris shout out, that's DJ Classic now. 4:02:20.920 --> 4:02:25.800 Misspect Wednesday, February ninth, nineteen ninety four at the spaces 4:02:26.200 --> 4:02:31.000 Maha templelf A Mahi Temple or the twelve year that's crazy, 4:02:31.320 --> 4:02:33.120 you know, so beautiful? Though? Is that? 4:02:34.160 --> 4:02:36.120 Do you guys remember that at all? Do you remember that? 4:02:36.240 --> 4:02:39.520 All? I remember coming up? Damn, I'm drying, hey, but 4:02:39.600 --> 4:02:46.160 I started making that. Yeah, certain syllables. Just leave your 4:02:46.240 --> 4:02:49.640 mouth for your drinking. The awe and the W are 4:02:49.760 --> 4:02:50.480 very challenging. 4:02:51.600 --> 4:02:57.280 But I remember comeing to Miami. But don't ruin my 4:02:57.360 --> 4:02:58.480 flyer please, I'm sorry, guys. 4:03:00.240 --> 4:03:04.280 Just a gift, No, not at all. Okay, this is 4:03:06.840 --> 4:03:08.080 what you got? What else you got it? 4:03:08.600 --> 4:03:11.000 I gotta'll give me one more, one more. I bought 4:03:11.040 --> 4:03:14.240 this tape. That's the first WHU Tank record I bought. 4:03:14.720 --> 4:03:17.480 And then I and then my brother Paul Dreams Tan Sports. 4:03:17.680 --> 4:03:19.080 I said, now that's new, kid. 4:03:19.000 --> 4:03:22.000 Now that's new. He gave me this as a gift recently, man, 4:03:22.120 --> 4:03:25.520 thank you, brother and grave. I bought that myself as well. 4:03:25.600 --> 4:03:28.680 And this this is the time that older the bastard 4:03:28.840 --> 4:03:29.360 turned over. 4:03:29.800 --> 4:03:32.560 You was here. Of course I was there. You know 4:03:32.680 --> 4:03:35.960 the story, what I know the story? They called me, 4:03:36.080 --> 4:03:40.680 they called me after listen, wait what look at this? Okay, 4:03:41.440 --> 4:03:43.960 you want that story, get this, tell us the story. 4:03:44.000 --> 4:03:45.640 But how are you gonna call me fen the whole time? That? 4:03:48.320 --> 4:03:48.640 Hold on? 4:03:49.840 --> 4:03:50.080 Hold on? 4:03:50.200 --> 4:03:53.840 So now, black black dudes always short. 4:03:54.480 --> 4:03:57.640 Anybody do you know that once the black guy. 4:03:57.600 --> 4:04:07.080 Get to know you short after four hours, I'm like, yeah, 4:04:10.640 --> 4:04:14.800 I mean, I mean, now it tells us. I don't 4:04:14.800 --> 4:04:15.600 know what you talking about. 4:04:15.720 --> 4:04:18.120 This was an incredible What is this? 4:04:18.760 --> 4:04:19.640 If it. 4:04:21.280 --> 4:04:26.840 Was this that, it's not really it's actually not really 4:04:27.000 --> 4:04:30.680 on the fly, Yeah, Kelly was there, if I remember right, 4:04:30.840 --> 4:04:34.160 this is the woman are bastard turned the speakers. 4:04:33.920 --> 4:04:41.160 Into the table. Yeah yeah, he threw them over. Yeah okay, okay, look. 4:04:41.040 --> 4:04:43.440 Look even if it's not this this story, I was 4:04:43.480 --> 4:04:45.640 there for that one as well. Even if it's not 4:04:45.760 --> 4:04:46.560 this flyer. 4:04:46.440 --> 4:04:55.440 He the story, okay, e f N, I would because 4:04:55.440 --> 4:05:03.320 I was like, it was flowing. Let me let me 4:05:03.360 --> 4:05:05.320 take him moment, let me take this, Let me take 4:05:05.320 --> 4:05:11.520 you saying I'm good. Take them on, Broy, Listen, I 4:05:11.640 --> 4:05:13.360 love watching you. Let me just give you some shot. 4:05:13.520 --> 4:05:16.160 We've been giving the guards so shot hit the Michael, 4:05:16.200 --> 4:05:20.800 but it put the put the light on him. I 4:05:20.840 --> 4:05:25.520 really appreciate you, yo, your your poise, your reaction, your knowledge, 4:05:25.960 --> 4:05:28.800 your experience with hip hop culture and everybody that every 4:05:28.880 --> 4:05:31.840 guest that you make them feel like like you're like 4:05:32.000 --> 4:05:35.000 like it's almost like your your timing and your punchlines. 4:05:35.800 --> 4:05:39.920 Whether it's editing or not, we don't edit. Really, it's good, bro, 4:05:40.280 --> 4:05:45.720 And I know you know argument. I had to look 4:05:45.760 --> 4:05:48.200 at my eyes. You see him and I saw that. 4:05:48.640 --> 4:05:52.520 But but you know what, I love it. We punt that, 4:05:52.680 --> 4:05:54.360 we punt that. I won't comment on that. 4:05:54.480 --> 4:05:57.640 I mean, listen, I'm right with that. 4:05:58.160 --> 4:06:00.400 That's one of the movies. Now. Yeah know, let me 4:06:00.480 --> 4:06:02.200 let me, let me let me go to the story 4:06:02.320 --> 4:06:04.600 and talk about the o dB story. You can talk 4:06:04.600 --> 4:06:06.080 about it. No, I was there. I was there. I 4:06:06.160 --> 4:06:08.240 know that I wanted. I was want to say on 4:06:08.240 --> 4:06:09.920 the microphone so people see me and my wife is 4:06:09.960 --> 4:06:14.520 like nigga flag. But I appreciate you, bro, thank you. 4:06:15.080 --> 4:06:18.120 Appreciate you extremely for what you started in when you 4:06:18.160 --> 4:06:20.760 started in the culture and be both TV don't exist 4:06:20.840 --> 4:06:26.200 no more without you, yes us yeah, yeah, but listen 4:06:26.200 --> 4:06:29.280 to ob sty your chamber adds a lot to this 4:06:29.360 --> 4:06:32.720 bo let me know that. Okay, okay, and I might 4:06:33.760 --> 4:06:40.840 five and I might no, no, brand, it's going fast 4:06:40.880 --> 4:06:56.840 forward time, he said, you wind got fast forward? Hold on, 4:06:57.240 --> 4:07:02.040 who's this guy? Who's that right there? Look at you? 4:07:02.240 --> 4:07:04.600 I know that guy. That's what that's my man right there, 4:07:05.200 --> 4:07:10.600 that's you might get to know he's the boy. That's 4:07:10.760 --> 4:07:13.240 that's the rock. Now he's want to see why you 4:07:13.280 --> 4:07:16.960 want to even you're still living on? Yeah, I like it. 4:07:18.080 --> 4:07:23.640 That's when I was bleaching, you know what, don't lead? 4:07:24.480 --> 4:07:24.920 Why I go? 4:07:25.080 --> 4:07:25.480 Why I go? 4:07:26.040 --> 4:07:28.280 Let's take a shower. Want to ask questions? Why is 4:07:28.320 --> 4:07:29.160 it green and black? 4:07:29.280 --> 4:07:33.680 Like the monster? This this version of the rough draft. 4:07:33.920 --> 4:07:38.120 These are the real let's get one together. It has 4:07:38.200 --> 4:07:42.440 nothing to do with the monster, but everything watch the 4:07:42.480 --> 4:07:46.480 green and black both Wait what what everything is? Nigga? 4:07:47.040 --> 4:07:49.760 The niggas took shipping the can. Look at the cat 4:07:50.760 --> 4:07:55.040 this monster that is not I know, shot my niggaho. 4:07:57.240 --> 4:07:59.680 We're praying which folks, Who's who had the first promotion? 4:08:00.400 --> 4:08:08.200 Monster? Yeah? Together, I was like, no, we got a 4:08:08.240 --> 4:08:09.320 great idea for your brother. 4:08:09.720 --> 4:08:12.080 I got a great idea. What we're gonna do is 4:08:12.120 --> 4:08:18.000 green and no hold on, no disrespect for my brother. 4:08:18.840 --> 4:08:21.320 Know who He's gonna get mad at me, and I 4:08:21.360 --> 4:08:23.680 gotta left my waist and get my strength up. I've 4:08:23.720 --> 4:08:25.720 been drinking, so I might have to face this. When 4:08:25.720 --> 4:08:29.440 I face it, I'm gonna say it it. I'm going 4:08:29.480 --> 4:08:31.560 you ready, Yeah, I would love to see ghost face 4:08:31.640 --> 4:08:35.640 on that box. Those faces, those faces are we want yo, 4:08:35.760 --> 4:08:39.960 Let's get ghodst face on the box. Yeah. Respect, yeah, no, 4:08:40.120 --> 4:08:42.720 big back, Tony Be. I don't know my kung food 4:08:42.800 --> 4:08:46.440 so you know that, but I can see your face 4:08:46.480 --> 4:08:50.560 on the box and it's a great person, a great partner. 4:08:51.080 --> 4:08:53.360 I've seen ray Quan the other day. His ship like 4:08:53.480 --> 4:08:55.280 he had the se girl is big? 4:08:55.760 --> 4:09:07.040 Did we wind? No? What's the plan is that? Brother? 4:09:07.280 --> 4:09:09.840 And I was so you think Rake Walker give you 4:09:09.960 --> 4:09:12.680 his face? I think I think way you go? So Ray, 4:09:12.840 --> 4:09:14.600 I bet you on the spot, go so ray for me? 4:09:14.800 --> 4:09:20.960 You say we want if you say, goes Ray Kwan 4:09:21.320 --> 4:09:22.440 for the be wine box. 4:09:32.280 --> 4:09:32.680 M hmm. 4:09:34.240 --> 4:09:37.000 Makes one more time and that's it. We never did 4:09:37.080 --> 4:09:38.400 we talk about no no, so about the movie. You 4:09:38.480 --> 4:09:40.920 don't take the picture an yea. The story of the story. 4:09:41.080 --> 4:09:43.360 Look now you're good. Now you're doing the story with 4:09:43.480 --> 4:09:46.000 the story was O d B. No, we did the story. 4:09:46.120 --> 4:09:46.560 I didn't say it. 4:09:46.600 --> 4:09:49.440 No you'll need it, don't need it. We need all 4:09:49.520 --> 4:09:49.920 the story. 4:09:50.200 --> 4:09:52.480 Yeah yeah, you didn't say sorry, so we need that story. 4:09:52.520 --> 4:09:56.040 That's anyway. So so so method Man and Red Man's performing. 4:09:56.120 --> 4:10:00.720 It's in Miami, so we and my man. No, that's 4:10:00.800 --> 4:10:05.600 Princess Club. You did all Yeah. Now, who's controlling the 4:10:05.680 --> 4:10:06.600 whole party that night? 4:10:07.400 --> 4:10:07.840 Well, I don't know. 4:10:08.400 --> 4:10:10.840 I'm a fan Death Jam is controlling the whole party. 4:10:11.080 --> 4:10:13.960 But is it this one? I don't know Jam talking 4:10:14.000 --> 4:10:18.520 about its Depth Jam's party. Okay, yeah, okay, all right, 4:10:19.200 --> 4:10:25.160 so method Man Red Man is signed to Depth Jam Campleton, 4:10:25.960 --> 4:10:29.400 I remember, I remember that, like its signed the Depth Jam. 4:10:29.680 --> 4:10:33.320 I remember that came to the film disrespected. 4:10:34.680 --> 4:10:37.840 Yeah, boy came with okay, but old b is not 4:10:38.160 --> 4:10:44.960 Yo came death Cham. Okay, So now, because because you're 4:10:45.080 --> 4:10:49.000 gonna make you all enough was mad? Meth don't get 4:10:49.080 --> 4:10:51.160 mad a lot by what we do, but he was 4:10:51.160 --> 4:10:53.440 a little mad about this because he really felt like 4:10:53.600 --> 4:10:57.840 it was a little bit, a little bit beyond the boundaries. 4:10:58.080 --> 4:10:59.680 What was beyond the boundaries? 4:11:00.320 --> 4:11:04.440 Okay? If listen, Odie B. Is known for destroying your show. 4:11:05.280 --> 4:11:07.160 If you if you talked the Quest Love and them 4:11:07.240 --> 4:11:09.480 right now, they'd be like, oh yeah, remember that night 4:11:09.520 --> 4:11:13.240 Odi B came. Yeah, he took over the show, ended it, 4:11:13.520 --> 4:11:16.400 party was over. You go to Flavor Public and I 4:11:16.480 --> 4:11:21.400 mean anybody. Old B is known for coming. He's yeah, 4:11:21.800 --> 4:11:22.880 he's not part of the bill. 4:11:24.040 --> 4:11:27.520 He's a strange shows, he said, and she's a show destroyed. 4:11:27.560 --> 4:11:30.840 One night he brought me towards shows and destroyed. Yeah. 4:11:30.840 --> 4:11:33.240 He's like, yo, God call me, meet me. I met him. 4:11:33.480 --> 4:11:35.400 He was like, Yo, let's go fuck these niggas up. 4:11:37.400 --> 4:11:39.960 And I'm like, you know, it's like, I'm old with him. 4:11:40.160 --> 4:11:42.360 I'm with him. I'm with him. We go up and 4:11:42.440 --> 4:11:46.240 we destroyed the show. He's like this, he said, this 4:11:46.280 --> 4:11:51.120 sh ain't real enough. You know me, Kielly. One night, Yeah, 4:11:51.240 --> 4:11:57.280 it's fighting over the remember that. Yes, yes he did it. 4:11:58.040 --> 4:12:01.280 Old B would come to your ship and in Miami 4:12:01.400 --> 4:12:03.800 he got jumped. Listen you know that, right, listen, hold 4:12:03.840 --> 4:12:09.600 on after if it ain't what he wants, he's gonna 4:12:09.840 --> 4:12:12.000 if he don't feel it, he's gonna suck it up. 4:12:13.160 --> 4:12:17.040 That night, Meth and Red was doing this ship Cableton 4:12:17.160 --> 4:12:19.880 was next because I got oldie story and I got 4:12:19.920 --> 4:12:23.960 myth story Meth, and they did with methic on who 4:12:24.040 --> 4:12:27.040 was to not MEPhI Red Man but O d B. 4:12:28.480 --> 4:12:30.120 I guess he wanted to be part of it that 4:12:30.280 --> 4:12:33.240 night and it was Meth because he can't be he 4:12:33.320 --> 4:12:35.520 can't do it in the world. It's like, but he 4:12:35.680 --> 4:12:37.520 felt like, I guess me. I don't know what Meth 4:12:37.600 --> 4:12:39.080 did to him. Meph was like he tried to like 4:12:39.120 --> 4:12:41.440 telling them, Chelse said. Odib was kind of little zoned out, 4:12:42.680 --> 4:12:43.800 you know what I mean. It was a little bit 4:12:44.000 --> 4:12:47.160 on e, a little bit past the level, but he 4:12:47.240 --> 4:12:48.600 wanted to get on there. I was like, nah, don't 4:12:48.640 --> 4:12:51.760 let the god on. The guard is not and they 4:12:51.800 --> 4:12:58.400 didn't let him on, and they did that ship but whatever, 4:12:58.920 --> 4:13:01.600 they leave his fucking state and they let odi be 4:13:01.800 --> 4:13:06.920 ond like these niggas haven't let me on, and they 4:13:07.000 --> 4:13:13.280 came with his next that ship. All this shit is weak. 4:13:14.080 --> 4:13:17.240 And he went on and he got see I mean 4:13:17.320 --> 4:13:19.240 before the show ended. Though. He did this because they 4:13:19.280 --> 4:13:21.440 won't let him on, they said before they show. He 4:13:21.520 --> 4:13:25.440 went on stage and he turned the turntables off over No, 4:13:25.680 --> 4:13:27.880 he brought the fingers down. Bro hold on. First, he 4:13:27.920 --> 4:13:32.080 started with the turntables. He turned the DJ set over, 4:13:32.760 --> 4:13:37.320 start pulling down speakers, was saying like, yo, fuck this show. 4:13:38.320 --> 4:13:43.960 Who tangs the best? Was yo? He came to this. 4:13:44.360 --> 4:13:47.280 Everybody's like he look, he didn't even on the bills, 4:13:47.960 --> 4:13:51.280 Like like we look at the bill, his name is 4:13:51.320 --> 4:13:56.680 not there. He says, happen to be in Miami. Nothing. 4:13:56.760 --> 4:14:00.720 Man's brother is happy to be performing, and he's like, 4:14:00.760 --> 4:14:03.200 oh ship, I'm gonna sucking my brother and I'm gonna 4:14:03.240 --> 4:14:05.480 take over the show. He's also known for that the 4:14:05.600 --> 4:14:08.480 ODB would come to your ship in a good way. 4:14:09.040 --> 4:14:11.800 If I did the show when ODB showed up, niggad 4:14:11.800 --> 4:14:14.800 gonna take a thirty minute break because he's gonna do 4:14:15.280 --> 4:14:17.480 this ship and they gonna love it. And I'll be 4:14:17.600 --> 4:14:21.160 like when he finished finish it, Hey, I come back, 4:14:21.200 --> 4:14:23.800 I'll do my ship that night. They didn't let him more. 4:14:25.680 --> 4:14:28.680 They was like no psightpher God, and he was like 4:14:29.680 --> 4:14:37.120 no cipher, no, no cipher. He threw speakers on the floor. 4:14:37.320 --> 4:14:41.120 It was and we all witnessed it. So that's the 4:14:41.160 --> 4:14:48.920 ODB start anyway, shot the ODB hell bress B all right, 4:14:48.960 --> 4:14:53.440 So let me get my best space Offseaell, this business 4:14:53.480 --> 4:14:58.680 is big business. Now I'll be going big business. You reccon, No, 4:14:59.480 --> 4:15:02.840 you don't know. You know good and you directed written 4:15:02.880 --> 4:15:05.600 and directed by the Rizzard. So it's not like it's 4:15:05.600 --> 4:15:07.600 not like the show is in the middle, you know 4:15:07.640 --> 4:15:09.000 what I mean. We didn't have all this shit in 4:15:09.080 --> 4:15:13.040 our sister and we're gonna get our tea up. We 4:15:13.080 --> 4:15:15.960 get like, this is professional. This movie cost ten million 4:15:16.000 --> 4:15:19.400 dollars to make. The name of the movie it's called 4:15:19.440 --> 4:15:24.360 One Spoon of Chocolate. So this movie started like this. 4:15:27.640 --> 4:15:29.920 I've been good in life. Life is good. I love it. 4:15:30.120 --> 4:15:34.120 Some assets and me and my wife was looking for 4:15:34.240 --> 4:15:37.200 maybe another place to another real estate. We've been doing 4:15:37.240 --> 4:15:39.360 good in real estate, so we thought we about another house. 4:15:39.480 --> 4:15:41.800 We saw a beautiful house. It was like Bama Lama. 4:15:42.440 --> 4:15:45.120 It was like the waterfall was from the ceiling in 4:15:45.240 --> 4:15:48.160 the pools. I like it. Yeah, yes, yeah, I like it. 4:15:48.560 --> 4:15:51.520 You know what I mean. California too, don't think about 4:15:51.560 --> 4:15:54.960 the fires. So we saw in the house was like 4:15:55.080 --> 4:15:58.000 Bama lamb. I was like, yo, yeah, I could build 4:15:58.000 --> 4:16:02.760 a studio right there. No steps. It's like more like 4:16:02.960 --> 4:16:06.000 it's like a dormitory type of studio for forty nine 4:16:06.040 --> 4:16:10.120 thousand square feet. Very beautiful place. Thank you. Hey, Bang 4:16:10.200 --> 4:16:13.800 Bong got a witness. I got a witness. Now it 4:16:13.880 --> 4:16:16.760 was real and I was like, wow, this is beautiful baby. 4:16:17.400 --> 4:16:19.160 But let me ask you a question. You want to 4:16:20.000 --> 4:16:22.960 buy a new house or make a movie. And she 4:16:23.080 --> 4:16:24.360 looked at me, It's like, well, what do you want 4:16:24.400 --> 4:16:28.480 to do. I was like, make a movie. She's like, okay, 4:16:28.520 --> 4:16:33.800 let's make a movie. So she killed her idea, enrolled 4:16:33.840 --> 4:16:38.680 with my idea, and so and this happened through the 4:16:38.680 --> 4:16:41.640 New York State of mon tour, all my ones up, 4:16:42.520 --> 4:16:44.280 you know what I mean. And on the back of 4:16:44.320 --> 4:16:47.440 the bus, I just kept writing. I started the script 4:16:47.480 --> 4:16:51.760 thirteen years ago after I made a movie called Man 4:16:51.760 --> 4:16:54.320 with the Aientist. I started writing this script, and even 4:16:54.360 --> 4:16:58.120 the executives of Universal, the executives at Universal, my man, 4:16:58.760 --> 4:17:01.960 Adam Foguson was its chief executive, and I was like, Adam, 4:17:02.080 --> 4:17:04.400 I got a couple of ideas for my next film. 4:17:04.520 --> 4:17:08.680 Because May with Iphish it wasn't a smash, but it 4:17:08.760 --> 4:17:10.960 made its money back and everybody made a few million hours, 4:17:11.680 --> 4:17:13.760 mind you, a few million hours. And the movie business 4:17:13.760 --> 4:17:16.960 is not good. It's cool it's just like we didn't 4:17:17.000 --> 4:17:21.560 lose money. Yeah, pay the janitors because you need to 4:17:21.640 --> 4:17:24.280 make a hundred to make two hundred. That's yeah. But 4:17:24.440 --> 4:17:27.760 still nobody lost money fucking with me. So you get 4:17:27.800 --> 4:17:31.440 another chance to dance. And so I told Adam. I 4:17:31.520 --> 4:17:33.160 was like, I got a couple of ideas. I started 4:17:33.200 --> 4:17:37.240 pitching these ideas, but the one that he said that 4:17:37.440 --> 4:17:42.800 sounded like it had market value was this one spoon 4:17:42.840 --> 4:17:46.520 of chocolate. And so he said, he taught me, you know, 4:17:46.800 --> 4:17:50.800 chase chase that. I said, cool. He taught me chase 4:17:50.880 --> 4:17:54.760 that wurs okay. Continue. So I leave and I started 4:17:54.840 --> 4:18:00.480 chasing it and I get stuck at page forty. That's 4:18:00.520 --> 4:18:03.640 that I've made two other movies. Bro, I got stuck 4:18:03.720 --> 4:18:07.680 for ten years at page forty. After two other movies. 4:18:07.920 --> 4:18:11.000 My brother Paul Hall. Paul Hall, you may know Paul 4:18:11.080 --> 4:18:14.040 Hall from you did a lot of Tyler Perry. Oh, 4:18:14.080 --> 4:18:17.680 Paul Hall did a lot of John Singleton Cheff Higher Learning. 4:18:18.560 --> 4:18:21.840 So Paul was that producer that guided John Singleton through 4:18:22.640 --> 4:18:24.840 and I met him because there was another movie. He 4:18:25.000 --> 4:18:29.680 was like, they let lions get hired. Lions get hired 4:18:29.680 --> 4:18:31.800 me to do a movie. And Paul was producing, and 4:18:31.920 --> 4:18:34.080 Bunk Bung and me and Paul was there right. So anyway, 4:18:35.320 --> 4:18:39.600 now we get to a point, you know, twenty fifteen, 4:18:41.160 --> 4:18:44.000 I started writing the Garrett when this movie, and I 4:18:44.080 --> 4:18:48.320 get twenty more pages and Bama lama froze again. Nothing. 4:18:48.400 --> 4:18:49.680 It's like, I don't know to do this movie. I 4:18:49.720 --> 4:18:51.480 don't know how to finish it. I don't know where 4:18:51.480 --> 4:18:55.640 they're going. I'm stuck. And then we just go. But 4:18:55.720 --> 4:18:58.000 then the writers' strike happened. They might know when the 4:18:58.040 --> 4:19:00.320 writer strike a few years ago. I want to New 4:19:00.400 --> 4:19:02.720 York state of my tour. I just asked my wife 4:19:02.760 --> 4:19:05.080 what you want to do. She said, make a movie. 4:19:05.360 --> 4:19:08.120 I started digging through all my my ideas. I got 4:19:08.320 --> 4:19:11.600 like twenty ideas. I got twenty pages, ten pages, eighty pages, 4:19:11.760 --> 4:19:15.360 five pages in this one. I read to her. She said, 4:19:15.480 --> 4:19:17.920 I like where that's going. She didn't know where I 4:19:18.000 --> 4:19:20.080 was going to end, but I like where it's going. 4:19:21.080 --> 4:19:24.800 And I eventually uh on a tour. On the back 4:19:24.840 --> 4:19:27.480 of that tour bus, my wife on one pollow, me 4:19:27.560 --> 4:19:31.800 and one pillow, I wrote the whole movie. By the 4:19:31.920 --> 4:19:35.960 end of the tour, I had it, We had the economics, 4:19:36.040 --> 4:19:39.080 we had some other Financial Partners. That was down with me, 4:19:40.000 --> 4:19:41.960 and we went and made this movie. It's called One 4:19:42.000 --> 4:19:45.840 Spoon of Chocolate. It's gonna premiere at the Tribeca Film Festival, 4:19:46.720 --> 4:19:52.640 New York City, New York City. Shout out with It's 4:19:52.640 --> 4:19:55.720 gonna premiere June eighth at the Tribeca Film Festival in 4:19:55.840 --> 4:20:00.000 New York City. One Spool of Chocolate June eighth, New York, 4:20:00.040 --> 4:20:10.280 York City, Tribecca Film Festival, World pamea come fuck with us. Boom, yeah, oh, 4:20:10.640 --> 4:20:13.280 I like that. I got yo. 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